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And to think, if not for Liz Ellis, she could have been wearing black.... · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
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  Speaker 1: talk about netball. We talk about so much more. But
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  Speaker 1: what we're going to start talking about this week it
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  Speaker 1: is finally on everyone. It is the wing defense Uprising.
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  Speaker 1: It started last Friday with the crowning of Jamie Lee
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  Speaker 1: Price as the Lizzellas Diamond of the Year. Finally, the
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  Speaker 1: hour is ours. I'm Carolyn Swindell, I'm Catcox.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Lizzellis and I've been made to look good by
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  Speaker 2: any number of wing defenses over the years. And Carolyn Swindell,
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  Speaker 2: you can add your names to the bottom of that list,
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  Speaker 2: of that list wherever you want to be.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I've not never made you look good
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  Speaker 1: on court, but I'll take the compliment anyway. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Very exciting though, And the best bit was her face,
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  Speaker 3: Jamie Lee Price, no idea.
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  Speaker 2: No idea, right. So when I went up to I
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  Speaker 2: was standing on the side of the stage before the
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  Speaker 2: award was announced, so they were doing another award first,
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  Speaker 2: and then it was my turn to go up and
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  Speaker 2: announce the win. And when I got handed the envelope,
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  Speaker 2: I could have looked at it and I thought, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I want to be as surprised as everybody else. So
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  Speaker 2: I got up there and the name was at the
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  Speaker 2: bottom of the card. So I felt like I was
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  Speaker 2: pulling the card out of the envelope for months and
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  Speaker 2: it kept coming. And then I saw Jamie Lee's name,
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  Speaker 2: and I knew where she was. And so the three
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  Speaker 2: finalists were Jamie Lee, Kira Austin, and Kate Mulaney. And
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  Speaker 2: I'd clocked where they all were sitting because I thought,
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  Speaker 2: I want to see their faces when I announce it,
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  Speaker 2: and so I knew where Jamie Lee was. She was
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  Speaker 2: a bit off to my right, and I looked up
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  Speaker 2: and I was so excited for her, because I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I would have been excited for whoever it was, right,
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  Speaker 2: but I was so excited for her. And I said
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  Speaker 2: her name, and the look on her face was, pardon
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  Speaker 2: the pun, priceless. She just was in such shock. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I found out later that sometimes the parents fly down,
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  Speaker 2: and so she knew that, and she had looked on
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  Speaker 2: Life three sixty to see her parents where her parents
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  Speaker 2: were because they was still in the Sunshine coach. She
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  Speaker 2: assumed that she wasn't going to win, so she was
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  Speaker 2: just in there, going haha, it's not me. It's not may,
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  Speaker 2: I know. And so when I said her name, it
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  Speaker 2: was even a bigger shock because she'd already decided that
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  Speaker 2: she wasn't going to win it. So it was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: It was such a lovely moment. And she walked up
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  Speaker 2: and she said to me, I've finally got a diamond.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, so good. Hey, can you go back
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  Speaker 3: to when you said finalists? So has it changed since
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  Speaker 3: I was last there? Did they do a scoring thing
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  Speaker 3: or something? Now? How did you know there were three finalists?
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  Speaker 2: I just in the lead up, So they didn't do
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  Speaker 2: a scoring thing, a live score or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: They just said the top three Jamie Lee, Kate Maloney,
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  Speaker 2: Kira Austin.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: It's mongrel that life's three sixty though, isn't it. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard now to surprise people because you've got that. I
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  Speaker 1: use it with my kids and I love it. But
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  Speaker 1: when we went to London in April, we went for
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  Speaker 1: Pete sixtieth and we went over to visit his eldest daughter, Haley,
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  Speaker 1: who lives in London, and obviously the younger kids were
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  Speaker 1: coming with us, and I thought there's five out of
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  Speaker 1: six of us being together. I want to bring my
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  Speaker 1: youngest stepdaughter over to but her sister knows where she
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  Speaker 1: is at all times. So in order to maintain the surprise,
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  Speaker 1: Claire had to turn Life three sixty off like a
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  Speaker 1: month in the past, and she's constantly having fights with
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  Speaker 1: her sister. Who's going, can you turn it back on?
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  Speaker 1: So I know where you are and whether it's a
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  Speaker 1: good time to ring or whatever. So they have to
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  Speaker 1: be You got to be more cunning now with the
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  Speaker 1: Life three sixty.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's good.
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  Speaker 2: Though, it's great, it's great, but technology is increasingly ruining
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  Speaker 2: surprises in our lives. Is it It like you can't just
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  Speaker 2: turn up on an ounced somewhere?
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  Speaker 1: And did you see that Black Mirror episode where there
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  Speaker 1: is a mother wanting to keep tabs on her daughter
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  Speaker 1: and all it does is increase your level of anxiety
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  Speaker 1: because it's like you can't possibly know where your kid
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  Speaker 1: is at all times, so you go insane. You can't
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  Speaker 1: you have to. I mean, our parents didn't know where
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  Speaker 1: we were through the eighties and nineties, did that? So
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  Speaker 1: this is where I'm going to tell you that I
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  Speaker 1: am and I will be home at the time that
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  Speaker 1: I said I'm going to but just interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So didn't you have times when you're a teenager
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  Speaker 2: where you'd say you're at your best friend's house, they'd
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  Speaker 2: tell their parents, ah, your house, and then you would
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  Speaker 2: be at a different party. I can't believe how many
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  Speaker 2: times I got away with that. All I would have
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  Speaker 2: taken was one phone phone call to a landlink to
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  Speaker 2: work it out, but my parents never thought to ring
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  Speaker 2: because I just trusted you. They just trusted me.
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  Speaker 1: Trust is there until it's not right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got caught out big time doing that,
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  Speaker 3: big time, and my sister knew and rang the landline
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  Speaker 3: and was like where I was not where I was
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be obviously, and was like Mum and Dad
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  Speaker 3: know they're coming to get you. Was the scariest thing ever.
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  Speaker 3: But didn't do it again and certainly lost the trust.
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  Speaker 2: No, Katine, I think you were a bit naughtier than
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  Speaker 2: me too, So I can't believe I never got caught.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't naughty, Elizabeth, I have no idea what you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon you were just cunning years. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: what though, I'm quite ashamed of myself this week. So
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  Speaker 1: I think I said last week I was hoping Jamie
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  Speaker 1: Price would win the Lizzella Steinmond but obviously any of
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  Speaker 1: those contenders have been absolutely a deserving winner. And I've
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  Speaker 1: been a big Jamie Lee Price fan for quite some
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  Speaker 1: time and pay attention to the wing defenses. I'm also
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  Speaker 1: a Queenslander when it comes to rugby league, even though
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  Speaker 1: I will never live there again because it's like living
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  Speaker 1: on the sun. And I've lived in New South Wales
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  Speaker 1: for twenty odd years now and love it. But I
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  Speaker 1: did not know until last week that Jamie Lee Price's
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  Speaker 1: dad is Steve Price, and it's like, oh, I should
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  Speaker 1: have my Queensland State of Origin credentials stripped from him.
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  Speaker 2: You should.
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  Speaker 1: That's disgraceful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why he didn't come down because he's like,
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  Speaker 3: oh please.
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  Speaker 1: Well and her brother, her brother is quite a high
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  Speaker 1: level AFL player too, isn't. Oh they're just all in
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  Speaker 1: so they have just endless sporting accolades.
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  Speaker 2: No. No, her brother made his debut this year for
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  Speaker 2: Penrith Oh Okay Rugby League, and her boyfriend plays the
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  Speaker 2: boyfriend's AFL. But yeah, so let me tell you a
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  Speaker 2: little story about Jamie Lee Price at the two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and seven World Cup in Auckland and Steve Price, her
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  Speaker 2: dad was playing for the Warriors at that point, and
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  Speaker 2: so she was a little kid. She was I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how that was seven years ago, so it had
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  Speaker 2: been eleven or twelve, And when we went to do
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  Speaker 2: the opening ceremony. At the opening ceremony, it was just
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  Speaker 2: the captains of each team that marched around the stadium
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  Speaker 2: and there was a kid who was the flag bearer anyway,
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  Speaker 2: the flag bearer for the two thousand and seven World
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  Speaker 2: Cup for the opening ceremony for Australia was Jamie Lee Price.
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  Speaker 2: So I've got a photo of a beautiful little eleven
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  Speaker 2: here old Jamie Lee holding the flag. And she'd started
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  Speaker 2: to play netball in Auckland, obviously, and I was talking
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  Speaker 2: to her and she was telling me how much she
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  Speaker 2: loved the silver ferns. I said, but were you born
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  Speaker 2: in Australia and she said yeah, And I said, well
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  Speaker 2: when you grow up, you have to play for the diamonds.
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  Speaker 2: And she was a bit torn. And so we had
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  Speaker 2: this whole conversation about and you absolutely have to play
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  Speaker 2: for the diamonds. You cannot play for the silver ferns.
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  Speaker 2: So I'd like to take a little bit of credit
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  Speaker 2: for that fall.
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  Speaker 1: I want to give you a lot of credit for that,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: What a crazy moment though, If you could look into
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  Speaker 3: your crystal ball and then see Jamie Lee excepting the
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  Speaker 3: Lizella's diamond these years later, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny. Actually, I must dig out that photo
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  Speaker 2: on the dribbler page. It's really cute. She's beautiful, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she's beautiful now.
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  Speaker 3: How it started and how it's going now.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of mention of Jamie Lee Price
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  Speaker 1: in the New Zealand commentary about how Jamie Lee Price
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  Speaker 1: started her netball career in New Zealand. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that is definitely one that got away for them and
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  Speaker 1: they are regretted something I really I just learned in
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  Speaker 1: the commentary too. So we talked a lot about Shelley
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  Speaker 1: o'donald and Hannah Mundy being the first mother daughter diamonds too.
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  Speaker 1: So the hefen And sisters, their mother and her sister
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  Speaker 1: both played for the Ferns.
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  Speaker 3: They were the first mother, sorry, first sisters to ever
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  Speaker 3: play for the Ferns. And it's crazy because the New
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  Speaker 3: Zealand Australian thing is quite different. So Illustrata have quite
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  Speaker 3: a few mother daughter combos to have already played, but
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  Speaker 3: not as many sisters. Well, we have more sisters and
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  Speaker 3: have only just ticked over our first mother daughter combo
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  Speaker 3: with Shelley and Hannah, which is really fascinating, isn't it. Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So who was the other one? There was Blinda Chatteris
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  Speaker 2: was that her name? She was a defender, Her mum
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  Speaker 2: played for the and she was my sort of era
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  Speaker 2: and her mum played. So I feel like there was
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  Speaker 2: always lots of talk about mother daughters. But you're right, sisters,
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  Speaker 2: that's fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And so they're in their family, four of them.
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  Speaker 2: And we played with the Vmberdo sisters in that two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and seven World Cup final.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but how's that they ticked both boxes?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? No, crazy, crazy, crazy successful family. And of course
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  Speaker 3: she played cricket for New Zealand as well, Kate. So
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  Speaker 3: they're such a spawty family. Amazing enough of the overachieving
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  Speaker 3: do we go into that fourth Test?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 3: Then now we're talking about it, it was it was
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  Speaker 3: like how good? No all I desperately wanted casinased decide
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  Speaker 3: of time. It was good until we got there and
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  Speaker 3: then it was. It was really hard to kind of
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  Speaker 3: put that aside and then move on. And even listening
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  Speaker 3: to Liz Watson at the end of the game, you
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  Speaker 3: could clearly tell she wasn't a fan of the way
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  Speaker 3: it had all played out. And you've got to feel
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  Speaker 3: for New Zealand in that moment too, because they probably
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  Speaker 3: deserved to celebrate that fourth test win. It was a
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  Speaker 3: big deal, like to get the two wins over there,
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  Speaker 3: but they quickly had to switch into next minute and
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  Speaker 3: then to lose it in such close fashion was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And then obviously Sunday, a lot a lot went on
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  Speaker 3: in a very short space of time. And I love
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  Speaker 3: that we had it decided, but I wonder if now
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  Speaker 3: we're better off to have either three tests or five
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  Speaker 3: tests and get it done clearly. Yeahs five, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You gonna have five in Australia, two in New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: I know, scissors, paper rock or take it.
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  Speaker 1: What about on a cruise ship halfway between New Zealand
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  Speaker 1: and Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Great idea.
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  Speaker 2: What about on Hamilton Island?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm pushing for I do not I'm not
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a paid employee of Hambleton Island Promotions.
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  Speaker 3: Just really would like there to be some net But
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  Speaker 3: it would make a difference, wouldn't it. Because we saw
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  Speaker 3: two wins for Australia at home, two wins for New
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  Speaker 3: Zealand and New Zealand, so whether the Fifth Test is
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  Speaker 3: played is very important in the scheme of things. But God,
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  Speaker 3: what an ending, so good and then one goal in
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  Speaker 3: the dying seconds, which I knew it didn't think we're
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  Speaker 3: going to get. For a minute there I was having
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  Speaker 3: heart palpatae.
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  Speaker 1: I was really angry with you, Catherine.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what would you have liked to have happened? Us
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  Speaker 3: to have just won the fourth Test.
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  Speaker 1: And the third? No, I would on the third Test,
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  Speaker 1: and then New Zealand have won the fourth Test?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well I can't control that.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're controlling the netble universe with your mind
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  Speaker 1: and you need to use that for good evil.
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  Speaker 3: All right, sorry everybody, if I put you through the.
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  Speaker 2: R I was a fan of the I was a
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  Speaker 2: fan of the extra time until we won the first
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  Speaker 2: two tests by seven a piece, and I'm like, why
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  Speaker 2: don't we just stick with what we going to do
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  Speaker 2: because once you win, we got a thirty four goal difference.
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  Speaker 2: No one's going to run that down. So anyway, hindsight's
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  Speaker 2: a magnificent things.
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  Speaker 1: So it was originally going to be the sort of
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  Speaker 1: aggregative goals across the season and whoever got the most goals. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: was that last year? Even was it as recently.
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  Speaker 3: They brought in series decided time last year from memory,
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  Speaker 3: but we didn't need it. Zealand one three.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just I think it's so hard on those young
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  Speaker 1: women playing that extra time and it's just yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we saw what happened.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, it is hard, but it's not like Catherine
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  Speaker 2: and I have both played in games that have gone
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  Speaker 2: to extra time and double extra time and doing that
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  Speaker 2: in a Test series, putting aside the injury to Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: had that not happened, you would have walked away and
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  Speaker 2: gone that is such great prep or a couple walth
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  Speaker 2: games or a World Cup. When the first time we
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  Speaker 2: played double extra time was in Manchester in two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and two in that gold medal final, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: be honest, we had no idea what was going on right, right,
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  Speaker 2: so we played and was even at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the match and we knew then extra time was two
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  Speaker 2: seven minute halves. But then when we got to the
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  Speaker 2: end of extra time, the only way you knew it
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  Speaker 2: was going straight into extra time. The match doesn't stop,
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  Speaker 2: it keeps going. But a little flag got raised on
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  Speaker 2: the school on the school bench, right, so but none
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  Speaker 2: of us knew to look for that flag, so.
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  Speaker 1: We will the flag signify.
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  Speaker 2: If the flag goes up, it means you've gone into
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  Speaker 2: double extra time. It means that the scores were even
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  Speaker 2: at the end of extra time and the game just
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  Speaker 2: keeps going. So rather than them calling we still have
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  Speaker 2: a drink, No, none of us keep going. You keep going.
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  Speaker 2: And this is international rules, right, So we didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: So we spent the next thirty seconds looking at our
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  Speaker 2: bench and Coxy had scored this amazing long range shot
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  Speaker 2: that I thought went in before before the end of
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  Speaker 2: extra time, but the umpire ruled it like extra time
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  Speaker 2: and finish and we're into extra time, so I thought
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  Speaker 2: wed one and we and there was do you remember, Catherine,
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  Speaker 2: It was so czing, and I remember our bench screaming
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  Speaker 2: at us two to two, which meant we had to
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  Speaker 2: win by two. And you go into these things and
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  Speaker 2: you're so prepped, but none of us have prepped what
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  Speaker 2: to do for extra time. So yeah, like we had
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  Speaker 2: this massive burst of adrenaline, but we just kept going.
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  Speaker 2: And then if you go forward to Deli in twenty ten,
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  Speaker 2: so Luke Darcon and I were commentating and I'd said
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  Speaker 2: to him all a week, I reckon, this is this
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  Speaker 2: isn't a going to extra time. We are going to
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  Speaker 2: sit and get very clear and speak to the bench
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  Speaker 2: visuals and understand when the flag goes up so that
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  Speaker 2: we know so that we can do justice in commentary
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  Speaker 2: and Catherine playing and it's just a different It's it
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  Speaker 2: becomes completely a mental game at that point, does.
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  Speaker 3: It not, And particularly for Australia to go from losing
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  Speaker 3: that fourth Test into this effectively the fifth game. They'd
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  Speaker 3: lost that last quarter nineteen to eleven. Astralia that only
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  Speaker 3: scored eleven, so they had to have had twelve minute
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  Speaker 3: turnaround where they had to completely put that out of
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  Speaker 3: their minds and come out and perform a lot better
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  Speaker 3: than eleven goals to win the series. And that's that pressure,
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  Speaker 3: that's those moments that really matter at where you've got
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  Speaker 3: to pull your finger out and make it happen. And
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  Speaker 3: they did exactly that not.
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  Speaker 1: Only the nineteen to eleven thing, but they had not
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  Speaker 1: won in New Zealand for how long? For nine tests
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. You know that, who do hangar?
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  Speaker 1: Did they take their foot off the pedal towards the
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  Speaker 1: back end of that fourth quarter knowing well this is gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah potentially, And we saw some people go to the
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  Speaker 3: bench as well, and there was talk around you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're thinking ahead.
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  Speaker 1: To the extra time. I don't think it's really smart.
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  Speaker 3: I mean two minutes is going to make absolutely no
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  Speaker 3: difference though, so I thought that was a bit of
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  Speaker 3: a stretch. But I mean that's obviously what was happening
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  Speaker 3: to a point. Do you know what's funny though, when
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  Speaker 3: we're doing a prep for these games, there's only been
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  Speaker 3: four draws between Australia and New Zealand that have gone
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  Speaker 3: into extra time four times. Wow, And I thought there's
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  Speaker 3: no way in the world. Well, that's got to be inaccurate,
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  Speaker 3: because I feel like every time I played a game
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  Speaker 3: it went into extreme and the dates of those four
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  Speaker 3: games list we played in them all. That's why, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's why it felt like there was I fell, we
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  Speaker 3: drew a lot. Yes, Well, it's because we were in
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  Speaker 3: all four of them crazy.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: It's obviously my fault.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: But obviously the most gut wrenching part of that, of
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: course was Sunday Ryan and the injury at the end.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: But what a like a brave, gutsy move that she
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: had to put on right at the end to stop
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: that ball getting a waki because it was time for
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: her to score there, and she did that cleanly, stops
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: the ball and then sadly down you know and doing
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: her knee. But it's been really interesting, I think the
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: follow up to that, because our Facebook page been asking
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: lots of questions around what does that mean for obviously
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: the Diamonds, what does it mean for the West Coast
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: fever they've now lost her for next year? And then
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: who pays for her recovery? Which I thought was a
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: very very interesting question which I didn't know the answer too.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: It's not our area of expertise, so I thought we
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: should phone a friend and ask and ask this question
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: because I would really like to know too.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Well, here's a giant rotary phone that I've sourced for
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: this exact purpose, so you can call.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Someone, Okay, I reckon we ring. Julie Fitzgerald, a true fact,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: she's been around the longest You'll know. Surely I was.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Hanging with Julie Fitzgerald on Saturday night. I was hanging
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: with the cool kids, Julie and Brian e Akle. And yeah,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: because big shock, I didn't get Coach of the Year
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: at Netborn, New South Wales Awards on Saturday night.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Should we stop that though, and ring Julie first.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: If you want to talk to a coach of higher
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: qualification's sure, Oh.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Julie Fitzgerald, we've got up now. We have a few
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: questions from our not Driable Facebook page and we thought
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: one of them we need to bring in the big
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: guns for and we thought, why not the most experienced
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: coach in the competition, who would know all the ins
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: and outs of everything. So this one was around Sunday
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Ariyan's injury at the end of the game in the
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: extra time. So obviously that injury happened on Diamonds Watch,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: but we have some interest around what that then means
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: for the fever, who pays for her rehab, and how
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: all that then works going forward, and does Sunday get
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: paid if she's not playing anymore, and how that works
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: and who's responsible. So if you could give us some clarification,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: they'd be amazing.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: As far as I know. Because she was injured playing
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: for the Diamonds, the Diamonds will cover the cost of
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: her surgery and her rehab and everything like that. But
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: in saying that she'll have the surgery in Perth, she'll
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: probably do all of her rehab through the Fever system
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: and she will continue to be paid because she would
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: have been a contracted player for Fever, so until she returns,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: her contract will be covered, but it's covered by insurance.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So Fever now have the right.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: To replace her to a player paid up to the
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: amount that Sunday was paid. So that's how it works.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: She will continue to be paid on her Fever contract.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I imagine if there's any money left going on the
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Diamonds contract that that would still stand as well, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Diamonds will pay for the operation and any rehab costs
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: that Fever can't cover.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, So can you just explain around the player that
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: comes in to replace her and they will be paid
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: up to what did you say what Sunday was getting paid.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, you can't bring someone in and pay them more,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: but you can bring someone in and pay them up
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: to the amount that Sunday was paid, because otherwise it
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: wouldn't fit in the salary cap. So if she was
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: on ten dollars, you can bring in a player that's
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: paid up to ten dollars.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, there you go. Well that was all very simple.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I'm glad we called in the big guns to clarify it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you, Julie Fitzgerald. Well we'll leave that
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: to you to go and enjoy the rest of your
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: retirement now, because how annoying that we've rung you up
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: and asked you a network question.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Call me any time, thanks to yours. All right, Well,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I guess she does know a thing.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Or two about fascinating coaching, really interesting. So there you go, dribblers,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: you're welcome. You know.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I saw Sunday on Friday night at the Netball Australia Awards.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: She was there on her crutches and I said to her,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: you know, there's still plenty of time to come back
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: for a couple of games, because everyone's telling her like, yeah,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: nine months, it's a long while. I'm like I was
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: back in six I was an idiot, but please feel
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: free to be an idiot as well. We loved to
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: have you back? She just sort of looked at me,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and I thought, right now, I shouldn't stop talking now.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I actually think so. I can only speak from
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: my very low level CrossFit competitive career. But like when
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: people tell me a miniscous tear that yep, you can
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: come back and do stuff and it's only twelve months away,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I go, that makes me feel good. So ill she
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: won't go. Oh, Lizzellas said, you know, do this and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: override all the medical advice, but it will inspire, right,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: it will. It will remind her that, you know, these
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: recovery rates, it's a bell curve thing. They go, most
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: people fall in here, and it's like, well, that means
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: that people who are faster and people who are slower
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: so and the people who work very hard like Sunday
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Arian and Lizellis can probably be in the faster category.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Will you back fully fit and on court and playing
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: by then six months?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I came back and played for the Swifts in round
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: one in two thousand and six and it was like
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: six months and twos.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she'd piss it in at that rate, but well,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I did that a bit against medical advice, but I
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: just felt I felt like I'd done enough work.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: And you know what the biggest thing is. It's not physical,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it's mental.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: The hardest thing is to get horrified.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: And yeah and do do exactly the move that you
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: did when you did your knee. That's the hardest thing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: And so Broadbent, who has done her knee, had done
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: her knee twice, said to me, you just have to
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: keep telling yourself that everything you do for six months
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: is making your knee stronger. So I just every day
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: making my knee stronger. I'm making my knee stronger. I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: making my kney stronger. And so by the time I
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: went on Caught, I had convinced myself that my knee
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: was strong enough. It's completely mental.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: And that your knee is generally stronger, isn't it. When
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: you do your aco and you do you rehabit stronger
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: than the other one, right.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Because you do all your rehab on that side. I mean,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: if your smart should do your rehab on both sides,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: regardless of your knee. And now in retirement, my right
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: knee is actually in better shape than my left knee.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: So my right knee was the one that I got reconstructed.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: It's in better shape than my left neck.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, well fingers crossed then for her that she can
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: get back.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So it's the newest fair part installed, isn't it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: It's not original?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Oh where would you put the new parts? If you
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: could have your pick of them. There's a whole list.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's not so much new parts that I want installed,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: just like some sort of twist on the back of
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: my head that I can tighten the skin up or something,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like how can I make this ponytail.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Tighter like a corset? You wanted to get back there
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and pull your skin together?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't remember. Yes, I was telling us last
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: year that when she when she bleaches her hair, it
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: sort of makes her face feel taught for a couple
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of days. And so I don't think I can pull
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: off the bleach blonde hair.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Give me great, sorry, give it a crack. He'll be
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: on it in my crack. People do that too. Were
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: power to you.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: But imagine if you had a big crocodile clips. Imagine
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: if you had a big claw clip that actually was
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: for your skin. You just pull up the skin on
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: your neck and on your face and click.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: You don't joke, they have those.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: You're perfect, Yes, stop it they do.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: They have those clip things that I like your hair
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: behind you your head and pulls everything tight.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Oh it must be so uncomfortable.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Well do we discust it ever get in the way
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: of our choices with fashion?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about a certain beauty ritual. You've
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: been through. Your nails look great?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I was a horrendous blood red yeah yeah yeah for Halloween?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: So good.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: How was your Halloween?
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: It was good until I had to wake up with
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: a hangover on Saturday morning. It was great fun. Actually,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I have super anxiety until we get the kids home
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: from trick or trading, though, because around my air it's
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: so busy and there's traffic, they're busy roads, and the
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: kids are all so excited that they run and you
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: can't stop them with as much as you give them
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the lecture and be sensible to slow down. We know
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: you're excited, blah blah blah. He can't and they so
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: they're running along the roads and they're crossing roads without looking.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm just not a heightened level of anxiety the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: entire time.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So when we get home, it's like, did you take
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the champagne glass that I gave you for your birthday,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: which was.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, because it's been sent north for Christmas. Yes,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: that's got special place.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So Liz I was so thrilled to find this thing.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It's an insulated champagne glass, so you know your insulated
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: reusable coffee cups. It's like that, but it's in the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: shape of a champagne flute. And I thought, well, that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: looks like someone will need that for her Halloween.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Husky, is it the brand?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Husky, can't remember.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: That's one of those good ones. Yeah. No, no, it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: gone north, so but we will keep But no. It
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: was so much fun. The kids got so many lollies,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and the neighborhood where we were went crazy with all
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the houses, which was awesome. And then they all came
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: home and died in a heat, had pizza and died.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: They were literally just ran out of energy. It was
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: great fun, wowed.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: So they didn't get like the sugar buzz from all
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the chocolates and lollies and my kids they still experiencing.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Oh really, no, I mean they all get so excited
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: about collecting them. I don't have any other people's kids,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: but Harpa doesn't eat them. She wants to collect them.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: All and she's had the mountain on the carpet at
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: home and been going through them and putting them into
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: the piles and stuff. But she's not eaten one. She's
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: got no interest in eating them.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's a bit different to the experience with
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: my children. Yeah. And we had a family movie night
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: on Friday night for Halloween, and we introduced the kids
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to The Lost Boys. Do you remember that movie from us?
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Keifer Sutherland and keep so Good?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: And then of course.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: They're so skeptical because it's as if you're going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: know a movie that we've never heard of that's any
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: good and we all love it was a great Halloween
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: movie because it's just it's just a bit scary and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it's it's very funny, but it's in that No. Keifer
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Sutherland and either Bill or Ted from Bill or Ted's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Excellent Adventure was in it. And the Cory's Corey Haim,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Corey Felman. Yeah, and they were hilarious.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Coo Felman.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Wow, right, I don't think I've seen that you'd like it? Yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I must get back on board. I don't think so
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I know what it is because it was all the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: rave back in the day, but I don't think I've
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: actually sat down and watched it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: It's time, Catherine.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Did your kids like it? Carolyn?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, loved it, But still now it's still like, well,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: can we recommend other movies?
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: No?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You people don't know anything so rewarding people.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Stranger.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but something exciting happened for the podcast last week too,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: so I went to well so couldn't have been more
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: annoying timing actually, because it was I missed the beginning
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of the Test match because I was in at the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: ARN upfront. So ARN being Australian radio network and they
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: are affiliated with the iHeartRadio network, and they announced last
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Wednesday the iHeart Women's Sport podcast Network, of which a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: certain netball related podcast where we talk about netball, what
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: we talk about so much more is actually really their
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: lead podcast on this I went to a thing at
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: star I don't know if it's a casino anymore. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: can't keep track of where casinos are in Sydney anymore.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: But at Star City there a huge screen and there
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: was Elizabeth Ellis giving us some inspiring words in her
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: lovely orange suit, which we put a little bit of
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: a teaser on the Facebook group last week. But it's
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: really exciting for us. No change. Obviously we're still available
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: on the same platforms, but hoping to get to get
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to a larger audience and really exciting to be part
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: of this. Iheartwomen's sports podcast network.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, so exciting and thank you for all the well
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: wishes everybody on our Facebook page as well.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, it also includes Chloe Dalton's The Female Athlete Project,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: which is the Hopefully everyone got their votes in for
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you last week.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: We shall see what shall see? Hey, now tell us
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: you had a special evening on Saturday Night yourself Friday.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Night Saturday and Saturday Night Saturday.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Gosh, yeah, how'd you.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Go the netballne New South Wales Night of Nights?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: It was great?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am seed that I had a lot of fun,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: met a lot of dribblers which was very fun. Yes,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: so I met Aaron O'Brien. Oh yeah, whose mother, Jeanette
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: is a dribbler as we know. And I had to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: correct both Aaron and Paige. So Paige Hadley won the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Swift of the Year and Aaron won the Giants Player
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: of the Year. And we're talking about their history coming
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: up through their various clubs and things and and said, mummy,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: mom plays, but just walking netball. And then I pointed
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: out that walking netball is netball. I mean, if net
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: set goes netball, then walking netball is netball. Right, It's
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: it's okay, it's not super netball. But then Page got
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: up and I also had to correct her on the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: walking netball front. It's like, look, I'm going to stand
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: behind my behind my mature peeps here and defend walking netball.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But it was such a it was such a fun night,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and so many fantastic awards. Liz Ballad and Netball Association
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: on the Community Excellence Award.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Oh well, yes I saw that. And so Kelly Walker
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: as the president of Netball, it's just done an absolutely
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: terrific job. But can you imagine so her daughter and
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: my daughter are in the team that I coach. Imagine
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: being a kid and having the local president and the
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: national chair as parents in your team. Those kids, I mean,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: they'll be traumatized for her, but on the upside, they'll
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: have something to talk to their therapists about because they
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: get a pretty good run.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Otherwise, I was going to say, I don't think they'll
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: be traumatized, and we loving themselves.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but anyway, they Kelly had
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to do an interview with the local levision app NBN
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: on Saturday and she was she sent to me a message,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. I was like, Kelly,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you wrangle the whole local net association.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So there we go. But you know, I think it's
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I love that those awards get presented because the lifeblood
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: of our game the largely women and some men who
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: run it at that local level. So it was fabulous.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: But big weekend for Page then, so she's had she
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: had a couple of awards, so Swift of the Year
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: in Netborn New South Wales in it. But she was
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: allays named in the Team Super Netball Team of the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Year the Netball australianner and it was lovely to see
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: her up there with a little baby bump. But I
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: just want to go back to the Netball Australian because
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: something that we didn't talk about earlier was Janille Fowler.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Nemma got named as a Super netbaw Player of the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Year and I quite think enough has been made of this,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: like it's amazing enough that she has won it six times.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Six times in a row, win six times.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but to win it this year off the back
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: of missing the first few games of the season and
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: losing a pregnancy, yep. I absolutely. I think it's one
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: of the most phenomenal sports stories all here the year,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: And I please it might be taked bad enough, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: we all sort of take it for granted a bit
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: because she's so good and she's so dominant and you
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: know talk. But I sat there and I just shook
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: my head. I thought there wouldn't be there would have
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: been another athlete in the world who this year has
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: gone through so much trauma and turned it around and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: had one of the best seasons of her career. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we probably should sort of pay a
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: bit of tribute to her because and she wasn't there.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: A lot of the chickens are at home and having
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: some well deserved time off. But I just think I
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: think she's amazing. Well probably she's the sort of she's
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: so under sort of underplays herself a bit, and like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: just that dominance is just phenomenal, So I say, unto her, I.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Agree, And I love that she's still actually being recognized
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: as a deserving winner of this award because you know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: sometimes some people win it all the time, like, Okay,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: they've won it enough, but I think, you know, the
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: scoring really reflects how brilliant she is every single week,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: and she has to win it every year because she's outstanding.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: But let's go back to that Team of the Year
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: is just to remind people. So Janille Fallon, Emma the shooter,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Kira Austin was the goal attack, Alice Teag kneeled wing attack,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Paige Hardley the Santa As you mentioned, Amy Sliger was
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the wing de fan. How great is that? Amy Catherine Slager?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Let me just remind everybody. Latangna Wilson golder fans. And
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: then tigan O'shannessy from Swiss as a keeper. Yeah amazing
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: because she was not on court for most minutes of
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: most games, so.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Clearly, but when she came on court, she had enormous impact.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: High impact. Yeah, So how are these how are these decided?
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: And this is another thing we need to talk about
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: because this was also a question asked. I think a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: lot of people thought the Lizzellis Diamond could have gone
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: to any number of players, and it could have. I mean,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: how great was our season this year? Everybody was playing
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: out of their skin. But to remind everybody, there is
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: an official group of people.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: There's a panel, so they've all Australia at the start
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: of every year a point a panel of people who
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: and they make sure that one or two people go
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: to along to every game. So a few years ago,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: when I wasn't cretating, I think I might have been
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: on the panel. I was asked to go on the panel.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And they look for people with certain qualifications. So it's
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: not like damn, I thought, It's just you're getting more
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and more qualified as a days, like a podcast hostgeds
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: to do it. But you know, lots of people ask
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: me if I picked the Lizzellis Award, and you know
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: what the giveaway is. If I picked the Lizellis Award,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: it would be rapt Fortney and Sarah and Rudy and
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Teagan and Ash. Of course it would be just all
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the gut beepers. But so that's probably the proof that
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I pick it. It is a panel, so it's and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I think that's appropriate, right, These awards mean so much
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: that it should be a panel. But when I picked
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: whenever I've done that sort of stuff, like everyone has
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: their little methodology. But I always just have a little
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I do a three two one every quarter so that
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: you don't think the person who had the best last
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: quarter had the best game. You make sure you consistent
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: over the game.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to for the interchange though, for the
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: attack interchange Grace where he Midpourt interchange Liz Watson and
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: then Sunday Ariyang as well was the defender.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But let's unreal, Latanya Wilson. So you know she she
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: has grabbed her moment with both hands this year, hasn't she.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So Shamira goes off to have a baby and so
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: here's your chance, and man, didn't she take it? Talking
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to Erin O'Brien on Saturday night and she's another one.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: It's like, you had your chance this year and you
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: just absolutely made the most out. I love it. I'm
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: so moved when I see that that It's like these
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: stars might not align for you again. So do it now.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And Latanie Wilson certainly did. There was question if Jamie
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Lee Prisce gets the Lizzelli's Diamond of the Year, why
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: is she not in the Team of the Year. And
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: they're entirely different, right, So she and she played she
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: played center in supernetbul all year, so then Page was
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: chosen in that position. She played wing defense in the Diamonds,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: but her position in super Netball was center, and.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: You've got a score well in both categories to win
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: the Lizella's Diamonds, So she's not necessarily the best center,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: but she might be the second best center, and the
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: scores combined to win the Lizzella Steamond across some supernetpule
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: and the International. So yeah, it's very exciting. So excited,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: called everybody, Hey, what about people taking opportunities? Joe harsh
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: has defect. Oh my god, so exciting. The first thing
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I did was text Brian y Eagle mic drop. She's like, yeah,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: she's going to be amazing. So if you don't know
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: what we're talking about, Joe Harton has signed as the
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: specialist shooting coach for the new South Wales Swifts for
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: next year, which is a big power play move I
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: think by the Swifts. But how great Joe will still
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: be in the game because you cannot lose that level
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: of experience.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And look, clearly, I don't know all the ins and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: outs what's going on behind closed doors, but why the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: hell didn't the Giants grab her with both hands and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: get her into a coaching role. I mean, it's like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: what's she going to do? Wait around and oh, sorry,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I don't have a job with the Giants and I
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: can't possibly go to the suit. Of course, she's going
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: to grab it if someone offers it to her. It's like, oh,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's very exciting. How do you coach shooting?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Clearly that's something I'm a little bit deficient in, but like,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: what do you do? You get the bat ball in there?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's it, and you sit back and just
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: wait for them to do it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean that they would be breaking down everything
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: at sessions. She would go, I'd imagine to every session
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: if she's now involved in the team to that sort
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: of degree, and just work on them, get to know
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: the personalities, what they're like, what their weaknesses are, work
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: on those. But it'll be working on combos. I think
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: a little bit more of imagine being able to pick
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: the brain of Joe Harten.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And imagine Joe now being able to work with Wacky
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: and Helen. How it's like, oh my god, it's just
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: like the Traveling Wilburys, the Supergroups.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: But it is a shame because had the Giants kept her,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Lucy Austin would be able to learn from someone like
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Joe Hutton, which would have been a huge moment. But anyway,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. We've got one of the great still
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: in the game, and I think that's what needs to
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: be applauded here.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: What we haven't done is foolish words speaking of Janelle
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: fallon Emma being underrated. This is obviously the book that
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I found in my office. Foolish words, the most stupid
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: words ever spoken, This one MGM talent scout on a
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: spying hopeful Fred Astaire in nineteen twenty eight. Can't act,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: can't sing, bolding slightly, can dance a little, So the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: experts might not know everything. Oh well, that's the end
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: of this episode, Dribbler's. You know that we get a
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: bit loose here sometimes with our techno skills. And we
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: lost Liz in the middle of that segment, and then
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: kath and I got distracted, and now she's left and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: we can't get Liz back, and we haven't even bothered
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: to say goodbye. So if this sounds different to the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: rest of the episode, that's because it's the next day
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and Alex, our producer, reminded me that we didn't do
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a proper sign off on it. We just got distracted,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: so I'm here to sign off. We had a great
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: time having that chat. I'm sorry that this is so
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: half fast, but I think that's part of why you
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: come here. I'm Carolyn Swindell. That would be kath Cox,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and that would be Lizella's and they would be here
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: if they could, and if we hadn't had just this
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: tsunami of tech problems. But we'll mix those and be
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: back next week. I hope you have a lizz Ellis
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Diamond of a week. Bye.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm