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Karin Adoni - Founder of Clean Diet by Karin | Nutrition Expert Says You're Making Health Way Harder Than It Needs to Be · Success Story with Scott Clary

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  What is the biggest lie in the food, diet, health industry?
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  People still feel there's like a magic thing, a magic pill.
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  So it used to be diet pills, now it's GLP-1.
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  Just take it and everything will go away.
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  What about the disadvantages?
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  Does anyone talks about it?
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  There's no shortcuts, no free meals in the world.
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  Everything comes with a price.
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  Today's guest is Karen Adoni, founder of Clean Diet by Karen, and a specialist in healthy lifestyles, emotional eating, and sugar detox.
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  After overcoming her own struggles with eating disorders, Karen developed a practical approach centered around nutrition, behavior change, and real whole foods.
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  In this conversation, we're diving into the truth about nutrition, weight loss, cravings, and what it really takes to build a healthier lifestyle.
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  What does health mean to you?
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  I think it's feeling good.
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  Wake up in the morning with energy without needing another cup of coffee just to wake up.
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  Being active, having good mood.
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  All of those things like matter.
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  Do you feel like the industry is getting more or less honest?
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  I think it's just that truth is not as important anymore.
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  It's more the narrative.
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  You're like dictating.
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  And I think it's so hard to find the truth today.
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  And I think we came so far from it.
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  So it's almost impossible to know what the truth is now.
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  My fitness pal is a success story partner.
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  Now, there's this thing that happens when you start paying attention to what you eat.
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  And I think we can all agree that we wanna care about our health and our wellness and our nutrition, but more often than not, we just kind of think we eat clean, we think we eat healthy, but we're not really, really paying attention to every single meal and what makes up every single meal.
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  But just by paying attention and starting to log and track what you eat, you start making better choices without really trying.
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  And that surprised me because when I first started using the MyFitnessPal app, and I've been using it for a while now, it's a nutrition tracking app.
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  And I started logging what I was eating.
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  It started showing me my macros, which means how much protein, carbs and fats I was getting.
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  And then I started to understand why some days I felt good, high energy.
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  Some days I felt like garbage because those three things, proteins, carbs, fats, that's what your food is made out of.
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  and the balance between them affects everything.
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  So MyFitnessPal app truly changed my life when it came to managing my food, which managed and helped everything else.
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  Now, on the premium version of the app, it breaks down those numbers by meal.
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  So I'm not just seeing one calorie number for the day, I can see what's happening at breakfast, versus lunch, versus dinner, where my protein actually lands, whether I'm eating enough earlier in the day or piling everything on at night.
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  And all of a sudden,
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  When I'm crashing at 3, 4 p.m., well, I can take a look and see it's not so surprising anymore based on what I ate or what I didn't eat.
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  So that's what I mean when I say that MyFitnessPal is a great app for awareness.
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  It's not obsessive.
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  It's not stressful.
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  It's not time-consuming.
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  It's actually the opposite.
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  Guessing is stressful.
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  When you have all the information, the food you eat, your nutrition...
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  becomes way easier to keep up with.
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  Also, a lot of people stress out that logging food is gonna be very time consuming.
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  It's not.
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  And if it was annoying, I'd stop.
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  But what I love about the app is that they've made it super, super simple.
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  They've removed all friction in food logging, right?
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  They have the largest food database out there.
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  So whatever I'm eating is already in it.
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  I can voice logs, so I can just say what I'm eating.
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  They have a barcode scanner that handles all the package stuff.
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  They have a tool called MealScan, which lets me point my camera at my plate and it breaks down all the macros and then logs it for breakfast, lunch, dinner, whatever.
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  And the app remembers my regular meals.
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  And I'm really just in and out of the app in seconds.
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  And on top of that, it connects with over 40 fitness apps and wearables.
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  So my workouts, my nutrition, they're all in one place.
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  See, food is the foundation of everything.
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  your energy, your sleep, your weight, your recovery, your performance at work, at home.
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  And I really believe that when you start to pay attention to what you eat, every single part of your life improves.
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  And to be honest, for me, it's the most useful tool because when I see the information, when I see what I'm eating and I feel the effects of having good nutrition and good food at the right time, the decisions on what to eat become obvious.
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  Not because someone told me to eat better.
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  It's because I have the data.
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  And the data makes it super, super easy to stay on track.
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  Corinne, what is your most controversial take on food?
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  I think one of the things that people like things have changed with the years, you know, ultra processed food became our biggest problem.
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  And I think, first of all, the majority of the people maybe don't want to realize that the big food companies and the industries are not looking at our health and our benefit.
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  They're looking at how much money they make.
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  So a lot of times they don't realize how damaging things are or artificial or how much
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  additives they put in it.
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  And those things had a side effect.
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  Now, in moderation, okay, but it accumulates because we're exposed to so many microplastics, additive, food coloring, air pollution, stress all day long.
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  So the fact that you just keep on adding it and adding it and adding it to your system has a load.
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  And now we're talking that one out of three Americans are
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  will get cancer.
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  We're talking about autism numbers that are rising.
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  We're talking about autoimmune diseases.
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  We're talking about Hashimoto's.
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  We're talking about hormonal disruptors.
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  We're talking about obesity or type 2 diabetes that became a pandemic almost.
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  Like we're talking about almost 30% of the population will have type 2 diabetes by 2050.
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  Kids that are 14 years old with type 2 diabetes, our pancreas is supposed to last.
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  We've never seen that before.
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  The food has an impact.
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  The fact that we try to say, oh, it's not true, or the science doesn't show, or it's conspiracy, it's not.
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  We see the numbers.
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  We see what's going on.
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  We see where we've been 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 50 years ago, and where we're at today.
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  We've seen places that didn't have so much industrial and ultra processed food.
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  And we've seen their longevity and we've seen their lifespan.
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  And then all of a sudden the Western food diet is being introduced and you see obesity rises, heart attack rises, cholesterol rises, everything spikes and lifespan gets shorter.
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  So it's not a coincidence that this is where we're heading and it just gets worse with the time and the fact that we're normalizing it.
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  So...
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  A lot of the population woke up.
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  They see it clearly.
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  They understand that.
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  But a lot of people, they don't.
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  And they don't understand that also there's a lot of money and lobbyists involved.
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  The U.S. is the only place in the world where you have food and pharmaceutical lobbyists in the government lobbying for that.
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  What do you think they want to get out of it?
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  Money.
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  They don't care about your health.
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  They want you to put on a pill for the rest of your life.
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  They control even the food cafeterias in schools where they made ketchup as a vegetable.
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  It's ridiculous.
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  And we're not even going now into the hardcore of like microplastics and seeds.
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  I'm not even going on that level.
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  I'm talking on the very base level.
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  Like, yes, sometimes it's like...
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  became more, you know, extreme with social media.
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  Like people pretend to have this perfect life that they have the EMF and the red light and this and this and ta-da-da-da.
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  And yes, it's great.
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  And I love it.
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  But we need to go back to basics.
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  And that's why we forgot.
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  We made health so expensive and something that people cannot attain versus, no, just go get back to basics.
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  Buy the chicken, buy the rice, buy the tomatoes, buy the real food, buy the frozen vegetables if you can.
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  You can buy organic, great.
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  You cannot buy organic.
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  Okay, it's fine.
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  You're not going to die tomorrow from pesticides.
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  you know?
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  And that's what made it also worse.
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  Like we went from one extreme to the other.
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  So now people just feel that it's just, it's too much.
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  It's unreachable.
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  It's overwhelming.
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  It's, I think it's, I think it's way too much information.
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  I think that also the average health influencer on Instagram, whatever you want to, whatever you want to call them, they do make it seem like you have to be part of this exclusive club to be healthy.
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  Exactly.
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  And I think that alienates a lot of
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  You know, some people that have been on this show that are well-meaning people, but they look at how they live their life and they realize that they barely can pay rent at the end of the month and they don't have four hour morning routines.
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  And they just sort of throw, what is it, the baby out with the bathwater.
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  They just don't do anything anymore.
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  And they just hope that, well, you know, I think a lot of people can't understand.
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  Incentives.
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  Yes.
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  And they they cannot understand how the government could let companies poison them.
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  They truly, truly poison them.
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  And even the companies probably don't look at it as poison in.
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  How do I say it?
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  Like they don't they don't think that the the amounts of a thing in their food.
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  It's like the dose makes the poison.
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  Exactly.
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  But in aggregate.
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  Over all the things that we do, like you just mentioned, all these different things that affect our lifestyle.
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  In aggregate, it compounds.
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  But I don't think that people either believe it, understand it, or have like a way to deal with it.
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  So they just give up.
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  They just give up.
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  And then what happens is like I see this now, like we're living longer, but like our lives are not great.
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  Our health is horrible, especially, you know, after 80, 90 years old, if you make it that far.
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  So.
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  This is like a very negative way to start a podcast about what is the... You mentioned things like, you know, buy chicken, you know, buy tomatoes, buy rice, don't eat overly processed foods.
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  But is that enough?
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  So I'll tell you what.
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  One of the studies that I love and I refer still to that was done years ago, it's called the Blue Zones.
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  So Blue Zones is like specific area...
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  and the entire world that they have the highest and longest longevity, but they also live a very good health.
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  So like in their 90s, they go out to the garden and they pick their tomatoes and whatever it is.
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  So they found a lot of common things.
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  So it's like one in Japan, one in Loma Linda in California, one in Sardinia, one in Greece.
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  It's like different areas.
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  And one of the things, so every area had is like staff that are particular.
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  Surprisingly enough, some of them are even lower protein diet, but I don't want to even talk about the diet per se.
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  Just talk about that.
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  So first of all, the common theory, not processed food, eating real food, being active, meaning not necessarily go to the gym and just pump like, you know, your weight all day long, which I do as well.
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  Don't get me wrong.
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  But it's like just moving, getting out, being in the center and having a sense of community.
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  having a sense of faith, having a sense of like very family oriented, walking into whatever the supermarket, walking to your friend's house, walking with your kids.
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  So they actually found that if you do all of those habits, that really expands and extends your lifespan.
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  And not just life, but quality of life too.
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  Exactly.
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  So, and you've seen, and they even tried, they mimicked it and they took people.
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  And I don't remember exactly the numbers, but they took people and they like checked their biological age.
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  And then basically biological age is like, I'm like 40 and then my biological age can be 35 or it can be 50.
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  It depends how healthy I am and what's like my inside says.
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  And then they checked their biological age.
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  They put them in a year in this blue zone study that they created everything.
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  It's walkable.
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  The food was real, a sense of community, sense of faith, you know, being together.
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  And they really saw their biological age drops.
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  Significantly.
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  But it was basics.
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  Walking, moving, faith, sense of family, eating real food.
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  Nothing crazy.
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  Because we go into that like crazy extent, you know, like dim off the light at 6 p.m., put on the glasses, put on this, do like a cold plunge, then go to the sauna, then go and go into the grass and grounders.
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  Okay, I get it.
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  But just...
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  If you walk, if you move, if you remove some of the stress, if you do some habits, if you have a sense of community, those things really matter.
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  Also, we don't talk enough about people that are lonely, people that just sit, you know, behind the screens without having that sense of, like, belongings.
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  That matters a lot.
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  Yeah.
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  having that social communication, social relationships, not only with your other significant, but also with other people.
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  So those things also matter.
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  So sometimes just going back to basics without being overwhelmed.
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  And I think that's what we lost because every person just now tries to reinvent because they want to go viral.
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  Oh, I see what he does.
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  Now I'm going to do that.
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  And if I'm not going to do that, then I can be healthy.
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  Just go back to basics.
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  It's simple, but I think that last time I really looked into blue zones, from what I understand, I think that there's not many left.
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  No, there are not many left.
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  But the reason why is?
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  Because industrial and Western-like food took over.
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  So even like the blue zones, like the people that know how to live the best, it's like it's so easy to be influenced.
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  So I think Akinoha, I don't know if I'm saying it correctly, in Japan was one of those places.
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  And then once they introduced the McDonald's and the fast food, they're no longer a blue zone.
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  There's another place in Costa Rica that was actually there.
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  And then I think they also discovered new blue zones as well.
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  But basically they said every blue zone that was introduced into the Western diet and habits is no longer a blue zone, which is kind of...
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  Exactly says what we're saying is that go back to basics.
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  The more we go with the Western diet, the sicker we get.
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  You go back to basics.
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  Cool.
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  But like these companies will not go away ever.
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  So what is the answer?
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  How does somebody manage to...
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  by the organic, or you said not even organic, but when they feel like just eating healthier is more expensive.
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  And they're like, because they're managing all these different things in their life as well.
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  Like real life is difficult and fast food is easy.
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  And they, you know, maybe, I don't know what's healthy.
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  I don't know what's healthy fast food, but they just don't know how to...
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  I think, first of all, they made like fast food and junk food, you know, very cheap, but it's not necessarily as cheap as much.
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  It's just very easy.
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  I think there's something that is missing in the American culture of like not cooking enough at home.
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  You notice what's crazy?
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  Even some of the, now I have a house, so it's a little bit different.
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  And Gina is, I don't think a lot of people know this, but her background is actually as a chef.
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  So she's a great cook.
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  And whenever we look at like a place to live, a home or whatever.
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  She looks at the kitchen and what's the appliance.
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  She's like, I need a gas range.
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  And she's looking for like the red knobs on the stove.
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  I'm with her.
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  I hate, I have an induction now in the house that we're here in Miami.
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  And it's like, I can't stand it.
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  But I don't think that's the norm because when I look at a condo to buy, now they don't even put in full-size stoves because so many people are ordering food.
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  This was happening in Toronto in new condo builds.
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  So they weren't putting full-size stoves in because they realized that nobody was cooking at home.
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  I think it's also got to do with that, like in California, in LA, everyone has gas, the red knobs, everyone has a full on like stove.
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  I think it's also something cultural.
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  I think something with like apartment or city like New York or Toronto, those kind of areas.
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  But overall, I think the concept of like cooking from scratch or actually cooking at home, it's something that is missing, I think, in here.
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  So it can be like a chicken breast and rice and frozen green beans and some broccoli or whatever it is can be more economical than going to the next McDonald's or Taco Bell or whatever it is and buying that.
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  It's just, yes, maybe it needs more effort or whatever it is, but...
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  Short term, maybe it will take you more time, but long term, it will save you more money.
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  You'll feel better.
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  You'll look better.
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  You'll have more energy.
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  You'll feel less bloated, less tired, less fatigue after the food.
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  So it's not necessarily true.
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  Is it more expensive to buy that manuka honey with the active ingredients that organic that was sourced from New Zealand?
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  Yes.
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  But you don't need to have it.
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  It's fine.
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  You don't need to get it.
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  So what you're saying is there has to be a cultural shift in how we look at food.
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  Yeah.
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  But also, listen, the health companies, they also make money.
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  Let's not get confused.
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  There's some brands that are amazing, and their goal is truly amazing.
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  to change and to create something different.
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  Like there's this great guy, his name is Parker.
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  He created a brand for cereal called Lovebird.
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  And he used to work in a big cereal brand company and he resigned to create like this amazing brand that actually cares.
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  So he will never sell out.
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  He makes the highest quality because that's what he wanted to give to his kids and that's what he thinks everyone should give to their kids.
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  But the majority of the people, and it's okay, I get it.
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  It's business.
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  They want the money.
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  So also those health brands at some point, they also give you that mindset and they pay a lot for like influencer and social media that you have to have this in order to be healthy.
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  And if you won't have it, you won't be healthy.
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  I'm now like burning all the ridges.
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  There go all the sponsors.
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  Maybe we should cut this off.
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  Oh my God, it was so funny.
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  The other day, I'm never going to get Dasani as a sponsor ever.
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  That's like Coke's product because we're just talking so much shit about how bad they taste.
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  Yeah, maybe we were like, okay, no, no, you have to have that product.
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  I think also when it comes to health brands, there's a difference between truly healthy, however you define that, and things that just market themselves as healthy.
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  I just discovered the other day that there's protein Doritos.
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  Oh.
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  This is the reaction I expect.
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  But my point is, my point is, it's a wild concept.
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  And this is an extreme, and I don't think that anybody looks at protein Doritos.
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  It's just whey with a traditional Dorito.
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  But my point is, like, there's a lot of, this is like an extreme.
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  There's a lot of brands that market themselves as healthy alternatives that are not actually healthy alternatives.
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  Yes.
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  So I think that that's another thing that people have no idea how to navigate.
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  The average person barely knows what a macroneutrient is.
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  Of course.
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  So then how do you navigate like a trillion dollar company, not trillion, but a very big company's marketing strategy where they have the smartest people on earth making you think that something's healthy when it isn't?
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  I think people also need to do their own research.
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  There's great apps also today that help you like scan and understand.
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  And I think bottom line, if you want to learn something, you have to do your homework.
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  There's no other way around that.
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  We became in a world that we just listen to like a, you know, a video on TikTok and we just say, okay, this is the authority and whatever it is.
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  Great.
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  Let's go see what other people say.
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  Let's look at the numbers.
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  Let's look at the data.
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  Let's look at the facts.
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  Truth doesn't matter as much as it anymore.
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  Like, sadly.
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  What does health mean to you?
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  I think health means to you, it's not the lack of having diseases, of like people saying, oh, I went to do my blood work and I'm healthy, or I don't have anything.
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  I think it's feeling good, having high energy, wake up in the morning with energy without needing another cup of coffee just to wake up, you know, being active,
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  Having good mood, not having those mood swings all the time, not feeling bloated after each meal, having a good healthy weight, your skin and hair looks good.
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  All of those things matter.
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  It's not just I don't have high cholesterol.
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  It's the fact that you feel good.
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  I don't think a lot of people understand how it means to actually feel good, to have that high energy energy.
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  to have that motivation, to have all of those things also impact our brain, impact our gut microbiome, impact our motivation, impact a lot of things.
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  So it's all like combined together.
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  So I think health has got to do with feeling at your very best, not all the time, but the majority of the time you're on a good energy, you're feeling good, you're overall in a good mindset.
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  And what percentage of that is dictated by what we eat?
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  I want to say 60, 70% could be of that because I think mindset, stress is also got to do with that.
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  Self-work, you know, working on yourself, whether it's traumas in the past, whether it's like not being a victim of situation, whether it's like we all have a complicated past.
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  how we get, you know, pass along that and just saying, okay, you know, that's who we are.
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  And I choose to live my own destiny and to say no and to let go of toxic relationships and, you know, to form the future how you want to form it.
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  So that's also got to do with that.
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  Like, you know, just being very positive, being very, you know, good mindset and doesn't mean happy, happy all the time.
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  Just means like more chill, less stress,
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  having a better emotional regulation.
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  So everything ties up together.
• 22:02
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  So five episodes back to back.
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  By Wednesday, I could feel it.
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  I felt tired.
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  And I pulled up my food log in the MyFitnessPal app.
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  It's not because I'm obsessing over numbers.
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  It's not because I'm trying to diet, because I'm trying to have an awareness about what I eat in the day.
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  And the app makes it so easy to maintain that awareness.
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  I can point my camera at a plate with meal scan,
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  If I want an intermittent fast, it keeps my eating window honest.
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• 24:26
  So tell me a little bit about how you got involved in health and wellness.
• 24:29
  You've made this your entire brand.
• 24:31
  Your content is great.
• 24:33
  I think that...
• 24:34
  The fact that all this content goes viral shows how confused people are about what to buy, what not to buy, what's good for you, what's not good for you.
• 24:44
  But where did you start to get involved in health and wellness?
• 24:47
  So for me, it started from a very personal place.
• 24:50
  I suffered from severe eating disorders growing up.
• 24:54
  Like, I think I remember it at the age of 11 where I can actually understand, like, realize that I have a problem.
• 25:02
  I don't know how many years prior, you know, that problem had developed.
• 25:08
  So I was borderline anorexic most of my teen life.
• 25:11
  I would try any diet on the book.
• 25:14
  The cabbage diet, the apple diet, no eating, no drinking, no this, nothing.
• 25:18
  Like, I was...
• 25:20
  skinny, like probably 30, 40 pounds less than what I am today.
• 25:25
  I would work out like crazy.
• 25:29
  I would take, you know, fat burners, legal, illegal, whatever you can think of, I've done.
• 25:35
  But this was at 11?
• 25:36
  This started at 11 until 21.
• 25:40
  So 10 years, 10 solid years.
• 25:45
  and I tried to hide it, you know, for a very long time, because a part of that type A personality, which is very correlated with anorexia, is also that control.
• 25:54
  So you control, and you hide, and you don't want to show people that you're weak, and you struggle.
• 25:59
  So I was hiding a lot.
• 26:02
  But then...
• 26:04
  You know, that was like a constant struggle.
• 26:06
  And I don't think, I think that people that go through eating disorders all have, and eating disorders for me doesn't need to be anorexic.
• 26:14
  It can be also overweight.
• 26:16
  It can have emotional eating.
• 26:17
  It can have like, I want to say an unhealthy relationship with their food and their body, which the majority of the population has.
• 26:25
  It's just sometimes you go to the extreme.
• 26:27
  I went to the extreme because I'm an extreme person.
• 26:29
  So everything that I've done in my life, I've done extreme.
• 26:33
  And that was also another part of it.
• 26:37
  And I suffered.
• 26:38
  You know, I suffered.
• 26:39
  I abused myself.
• 26:41
  I didn't drink.
• 26:41
  I didn't eat.
• 26:42
  I would step on the scale 20 times a day.
• 26:45
  I would take the scale with me in the car.
• 26:46
  I would have it anywhere that I would go.
• 26:48
  I would spend four hours every day at the gym.
• 26:51
  I would wake up in the morning.
• 26:52
  I run 10K and then just, you know, give myself a glass of water.
• 26:55
  Like anything you can imagine I've done.
• 26:59
  Then later on also came bulimia and throwing out.
• 27:03
  It all got mixed up together.
• 27:05
  Where did this all come from, though?
• 27:06
  Listen, I'm guessing part of my childhood and part of the fact that I always, as a kid, felt very strong emotions and a lot of things that were overwhelming.
• 27:18
  And there's another part in anorexia and emotional eating that's saying that,
• 27:25
  Sometimes something overwhelming.
• 27:26
  Okay, let's put it in something that will be easier.
• 27:29
  You know how sometimes people go through trauma?
• 27:32
  Let's say a sexual trauma.
• 27:33
  I didn't go through that.
• 27:35
  And then a lot of times they turn into either addictions or eating disorders, which is also some sort of an addiction, I want to say.
• 27:42
  Then one of the reasons is because it's too much for them to deal with that trauma.
• 27:46
  So they turn into that.
• 27:47
  It's easier to deal with what did I eat?
• 27:49
  What did I do?
• 27:50
  How do I look?
• 27:52
  Because it's an easier...
• 27:54
  emotional burden, I want to say, versus dealing with actually what you're feeling.
• 27:58
  So I probably was born with like oversensitivity.
• 28:02
  I was overwhelmed with a lot of things.
• 28:05
  I was also very stubborn and independent.
• 28:07
  So I've done everything my way.
• 28:08
  It was my way or the highway.
• 28:11
  So I never asked for help.
• 28:12
  I never reached out.
• 28:13
  I was always doing things myself.
• 28:15
  And most likely, I went through a lot of emotional stuff.
• 28:17
  And maybe it was too much for me to handle.
• 28:19
  And...
• 28:20
  And the eating disorder just started slowly and gradually, you know, develop.
• 28:27
  And it's also something with my personality because you need to have that personality as well.
• 28:32
  And environment.
• 28:33
  Environment always like effects, but I think that...
• 28:36
  When you have that, you also, you're looking to find that environment to help it grow and develop.
• 28:41
  You know, it's like you're looking for that fashion world for those girlfriends that are also obsessed with eating disorders for those magazines, because we're talking about 30 years ago.
• 28:50
  I remember the internet just started.
• 28:52
  So we had like ProAnna website.
• 28:55
  Anna is anorexia.
• 28:56
  That's the name of like anorexia for those websites.
• 29:00
  It was like dark webs that you used to talk about.
• 29:02
  Like, what do you do?
• 29:04
  Yeah.
• 29:05
  So it's different.
• 29:05
  It's not like today.
• 29:07
  It was completely different.
• 29:10
  So that was like my entire teen life.
• 29:12
  But I still graduated from high school.
• 29:14
  I still had friends, whatever it is.
• 29:15
  I always wanted to stay somewhere.
• 29:18
  And I don't want to say in the middle, but not to go to that extreme to now be hospitalized and to give up on my life.
• 29:24
  They took me for like day hospitalization very quickly.
• 29:28
  I realized that I'm not going to do that, that it's not for me.
• 29:32
  You weren't going to go to... That I'm going to do whatever it takes because I don't want to get there.
• 29:36
  Because I've seen the girls there and they were...
• 29:38
  It was traumatizing for me to see that.
• 29:41
  How far were you from being one of those girls?
• 29:44
  Probably 10, 20% from getting there.
• 29:47
  So I wasn't far.
• 29:49
  I needed that push.
• 29:51
  But I always loved life more than I loved the disease.
• 29:56
  There's a very thin line.
• 29:57
  Would you love more?
• 29:58
  Does that take over your life or you take over?
• 30:00
  Like, does the disease take over your life or you take over control of your life?
• 30:04
  And I always was more in control over my life than the disease.
• 30:08
  There was always a very thin line that I didn't want to cross.
• 30:12
  And I remember before I started like school, like university, college, I went to like travel the world and I went to the Far East with Thailand with one of my good friends back then.
• 30:25
  And, you know, it was the first time as an adult that I could enjoy life because all of a sudden there wasn't the scale, there wasn't the fat burners because I went to Thailand.
• 30:36
  I'm not going to bring them with me and get arrested for the rest of my life and be thrown into jail.
• 30:40
  So this forced you.
• 30:42
  So that kind of forced me.
• 30:45
  And all of a sudden, I was present.
• 30:48
  Now we talk a lot about being present over the phone.
• 30:51
  But I was never present because I was always in the gel inside my head.
• 30:56
  And it's constant.
• 30:57
  And you can't escape.
• 30:58
  You can't turn off the phone.
• 31:00
  There's no rehab from your own mindset.
• 31:04
  So all of a sudden I go to like whatever, a party, I go to the beach, I meet people from all over the world.
• 31:11
  It's really nice.
• 31:12
  I'm like, you know, having fun and I'm actually present.
• 31:15
  I'm enjoying it.
• 31:16
  Yes, of course, I was still obsessed, but I didn't.
• 31:19
  I was I was taken out of the environment that was really fertilizing that extremeness.
• 31:25
  And then when I came back, it all came back.
• 31:28
  And that in a day.
• 31:30
  The obsession, the scale, the getting on the scale, the going to the gym, the popping up all the pills for fat burners.
• 31:36
  And then I said, okay, if this is the life I need to live, then I'm out.
• 31:42
  I don't want to live this life.
• 31:43
  I remember I said, where will I be a year from today if I continue in this path?
• 31:49
  And where will I be 10 years from today continuing this path?
• 31:53
  And it was terrifying for me to think, where will I be 10 years from today?
• 31:58
  Because it would take me to my 30s.
• 32:01
  So then I started healing therapy journey, six, seven long years of like extensive therapy.
• 32:07
  And then also I chose to go and to learn the world of nutrition and health and wellness because I felt like it was, I was healing myself first before I was able to help any other person.
• 32:19
  I believe you need to go through that yourself in order to help other people.
• 32:23
  I think that what you described is extreme, but that, how do I say it, this mental prison of food.
• 32:34
  Yeah.
• 32:38
  is something that I think a lot of people experience to a degree.
• 32:42
  It just manifests in different ways.
• 32:44
  But I think about somebody who's always on a diet, always trying to lose some weight, and then they'll be so strict and so stressed about food.
• 32:52
  And then finally, they'll be less stressed about food and they'll eat whatever they want, but then they'll look at themselves in the mirror on the scale and they'll hate themselves and they'll go back on this diet.
• 33:00
  This is why gyms are busy in January.
• 33:03
  I mean, so not at this level, but I experienced this when I was really into bodybuilding.
• 33:07
  Okay, yes, I can see that.
• 33:09
  Body dysmorphia, you're counting every single macro, you're looking at every single menu before you go out to eat to figure out what you can actually do.
• 33:19
  It's so bad.
• 33:20
  And it's like it's all-consuming.
• 33:22
  Like your whole life is centered around food and what you eat.
• 33:26
  And you weigh the food.
• 33:28
  Can I do that?
• 33:29
  And if you prepare and if you go on competitions, like you need to cut and then you need to build and you have off-season, on-season, cut the water, the cucumbers, the spinach, like I know the world.
• 33:37
  I know I never got to this level, but I know bodybuilders that were scared about brushing their teeth because there was too much sodium in the toothpaste so they won't hold extra water when they jump on stage.
• 33:50
  It's crazy what food can do to you.
• 33:52
  It's absolutely crazy what food can do to you.
• 33:55
  Wow.
• 33:56
  I didn't know to that extreme what they'll brush their teeth with.
• 34:00
  Yeah, but bodybuilding is the very, it's extreme and it's very.
• 34:04
  But it's a different manifestation of what you went through.
• 34:06
  Yeah, it's different.
• 34:08
  Also, it's more defined as healthy, but it's obsession full on.
• 34:11
  How do, so this is really the question.
• 34:14
  So after going through what you've gone through and healing yourself.
• 34:17
  Yeah.
• 34:18
  And by the way, still caring about what you eat.
• 34:22
  You didn't just not care about what you eat.
• 34:25
  How do people, how do people heal like their relationship with food?
• 34:32
  I think the first, listen, I'm big on therapy.
• 34:35
  Whatever therapy.
• 34:36
  A lot of the stuff keeps going back to therapy.
• 34:39
  Like the therapy can be, you know, a conventional therapist.
• 34:43
  It can be someone more spiritual.
• 34:46
  It can be probably a combination of all because you also go through phases and stages where you need different steps to where you're at.
• 34:54
  But it's doing a deep dive to deal with your darkest demons.
• 34:59
  And it's hard.
• 35:01
  Because you discover a lot of things about yourself, how you behaved, what you've done.
• 35:10
  You are living in a place where you are unaware of what you're doing.
• 35:15
  And I think it's scary.
• 35:19
  And not a lot of people are willing to go through that hard work.
• 35:22
  I feel like long term, it's the best thing you can do.
• 35:25
  Short term, it's a sacrifice.
• 35:28
  And for that sacrifice, you need to be willing to do that.
• 35:31
  And for me, there was no other way, because I needed to heal myself from within.
• 35:37
  And healing, by the way, is always occurring.
• 35:41
  It's just, it's not acute anymore.
• 35:42
  It's like it's always somewhere, because you always go through a journey of healing and process, we always process stuff.
• 35:48
  But to process that eating disorder, I was really, was going to therapy two to three times a week.
• 35:53
  So you mentioned before some of the girls from the hospital, they didn't make it.
• 35:59
  Have you thought about what was the thing that allowed you to make it when so many people didn't in that same situation?
• 36:11
  I always loved life more.
• 36:13
  I always had high goals and expectations for myself.
• 36:17
  I was raised in a ways of also like self-love and self-appreciation and self-worth.
• 36:21
  Funny enough, even though I went through all of this eating disorders.
• 36:24
  So I was always, it never crossed my mind.
• 36:27
  Like the disease never looked more appealing to me than life.
• 36:32
  Like they're willing, sometimes in their mindset, which I understand, you're willing to die.
• 36:39
  And not to go through the healing process and to become healthy.
• 36:44
  And for me, it was never that.
• 36:46
  I never wanted to go there.
• 36:47
  For me, that was a complete failure.
• 36:49
  And for them, maybe it was a success.
• 36:51
  Like, does that make sense?
• 36:53
  Like, for me, a failure would be to get hospitalized, to be in the point where I can take control over my life.
• 37:00
  And I lost it.
• 37:00
  Like, the disease won.
• 37:02
  Right.
• 37:03
  And I lost.
• 37:05
  And I never want to lose in that situation.
• 37:06
  And for them, it was the other way around.
• 37:08
  They look at it in a way of like, the disease won, but in their mind, they won.
• 37:14
  I ask this because...
• 37:18
  You're a very ambitious type A person.
• 37:20
  A lot of people listen to this podcast are type A.
• 37:23
  And they don't all have the same disease that you had to overcome, but they all have an unhealthy obsession with something.
• 37:30
  And I guess the question is, how do you let that something not become all-consuming?
• 37:35
  I think today I look at it as my superpower.
• 37:40
  For me, what I went through and the healing process that I went through is what made me who I am today.
• 37:47
  I wouldn't change anything.
• 37:50
  Because that's what made me who I am today.
• 37:52
  So the struggles that I went through is what made me so strong, more resilient, and also understanding to a lot of life situations.
• 38:03
  Because I think if you don't go through struggles, there's a lot of things you miss along the road.
• 38:09
  So whether I was treating people, healing people, creating books, writing books, talking, doing lectures, conversation, podcasts, being on social media.
• 38:19
  Like I understand what a different person goes through.
• 38:22
  I can see that even without them talking.
• 38:24
  I can see in their body language how they behave, how they do so.
• 38:28
  I think one of the things that once you embrace...
• 38:31
  your past, your weaknesses, the struggles that you went through, and you're not trying to hide it.
• 38:37
  And to say, no, everything is perfect.
• 38:38
  No, it's not.
• 38:39
  That's what makes you who you are.
• 38:41
  And once you embrace it, and also go to therapy or dig a deeper dive into that and understand where it came from, that can be your biggest, you know, strength afterwards.
• 38:50
  I think that I've seen this as a pattern that keeps repeating.
• 38:54
  Some of the most successful people I know, they take the darkest part of their life and they turn it into what they do for a living.
• 39:00
  Exactly.
• 39:01
  That's very interesting.
• 39:04
  Again, I don't ever want to draw a comparison to what you went through, but I'll tell a little bit of my story because you'll understand how I look at what you've done and how you've turned into.
• 39:13
  You know, this disease that really had a hold on you into your career.
• 39:17
  But ironically, on a much lighter scale, like public speaking and presently presenting in front of the clock, that to me was the scariest thing I could ever do.
• 39:30
  And this is what I do for a living now.
• 39:32
  But it's just so funny how that weakness, if you lean into it and you overcome it.
• 39:37
  The act of overcoming that weakness actually makes you like highly qualified for you to do that as your job.
• 39:44
  Exactly.
• 39:45
  When you were going through this, at what point did you heal?
• 39:48
  At what point did you turn it into an actual career?
• 39:51
  So my healing process was gradually.
• 39:53
  It's not like one day.
• 39:55
  It's important for people to listen to that.
• 39:57
  It doesn't go away overnight.
• 39:59
  You go through steps and stages.
• 40:00
  And every stage you go through, you can go back.
• 40:03
  Because if you really went through the process, you can go back being blind.
• 40:06
  Because now you see things differently.
• 40:09
  So I think like the first two years were the hardest for me.
• 40:13
  The first two to three years were the hardest for me.
• 40:16
  And then I was still in school.
• 40:18
  So a lot of those downs and those harsh moments came through when I was still in school.
• 40:23
  And I think around 24, it really started to open up and I really started to see things differently.
• 40:31
  And then slowly and gradually in every step of my life, another breakthrough happened.
• 40:37
  Mentally, emotionally, and then I was also able to treat and heal people on a different level.
• 40:45
  Because for me, just telling you what to eat...
• 40:48
  was never the hard part.
• 40:49
  That's the easy part, is how do I make you commit to yourself?
• 40:53
  How do I make you go through that mindset that you understand what are the limiting beliefs that are stopping you to reach to your actual goals and your best self?
• 41:04
  And a lot of people, by the way, are very successful in many aspects in their life and food is their weakest spot.
• 41:12
  Because it's so hard because you need to say no and you need to be disciplined all the time.
• 41:16
  They're like, I'm successful in my career.
• 41:18
  I'm successful with my family.
• 41:20
  I can't overtake the food.
• 41:23
  And we see that's why GLP now is also so on the rise because it's easier to like hold those, you know, I want to say cravings or whatever it is.
• 41:33
  For me, it was once I learned enough about myself, I went through all of those struggles.
• 41:39
  I was in every point, the low, the high, the middle, the overweight, the underweight, the eating, not eating, the overeating, the everything that I can actually understand where you're at.
• 41:50
  Because I didn't only study it.
• 41:52
  I also went through it.
• 41:53
  So I come from the educational part of it, but I come from the experience part of it.
• 41:57
  So I understand myself.
• 41:58
  what you're going through, and I need to find those pain points, what is holding you back to create that mind shift to start doing that change.
• 42:09
  And slowly and gradually, I would touch in those places until we get you to the point where you own it.
• 42:15
  Because for me, I don't want to own it because then you'll be dependent on me for the rest of your life.
• 42:20
  I want to teach you how to own it yourself so you'll become your own nutritionist, your own health, you know, whatever, you know, I want to say professional because also you know your body best.
• 42:35
  So I need to teach you how to be attentive to your body, how to break those automatic habits that you have.
• 42:42
  What are the things that you tell to yourself?
• 42:44
  What are the no's?
• 42:44
  What are the negativity?
• 42:46
  What is the mindset you give to yourself every single morning and how do we break those?
• 42:51
  And then we understand where the food comes from.
• 42:54
  Food is 20% of the situation.
• 42:56
  It's the easy part.
• 42:57
  To teach you what to eat, I can do in a few sessions.
• 43:00
  To make you actually do it, that's the hard part.
• 43:04
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• 46:20
  Why do people have such a hard time understanding how not...
• 46:27
  what to eat, but how to have self-control, how to focus on your health and wellness goals.
• 46:34
  Why, when somebody is successful in all these other hard things they do in their life, this is the one thing that they just can't get a handle on?
• 46:44
  First of all, we live in a world that really doesn't encourage it.
• 46:51
  You know, it's like even to the fact that it's like, oh, you're not eating gluten.
• 46:55
  Oh, you're not eating out.
• 46:56
  Oh, you're not eating sweets.
• 46:57
  It's like it's a conversation versus like good for you that you take really good care of your health.
• 47:02
  You know, it's like we're on the other way.
• 47:03
  Yes, there's a trend now, but we're still in the minority of the trend.
• 47:07
  We're like the little part of it.
• 47:09
  We're like the 10%.
• 47:11
  And I think, first of all, from the moment we were born, we're being fed with like ultra processed food, pharmaceutical, a lot of things that really change, you know, our epigenetics.
• 47:22
  Basically we have our genetics and epigenetics is that basically how our genes are being expressed.
• 47:27
  It changes our hormones.
• 47:30
  It changes our gut microbiome.
• 47:31
  So all of a sudden, it's harder.
• 47:33
  Our body is not balanced.
• 47:35
  So first of all, physically, we're not balanced.
• 47:37
  We're not consuming enough protein.
• 47:38
  We're not eating enough food.
• 47:39
  We go into all kinds of different diets.
• 47:41
  Do the intermediate fasting, do the carnivore, do the fan.
• 47:44
  There were so many diets along the way.
• 47:47
  Like now we're living in the era of like, you know, the carnivore or the meat diet or whatever it is.
• 47:52
  But those eras have been here since I can remember myself.
• 47:57
  It's just it changes the name and the format of the diet.
• 48:01
  So I think for a lot of people, it's like all of a sudden you need to be disciplined 24-7.
• 48:05
  And they're like, I'm disciplined in this and I'm disciplined in this and I'm disciplined in this.
• 48:08
  And this is how they treat themselves with self-love, with emotional eating, with dealing with a lot of situation.
• 48:16
  And it's hard because it's next to you 24-7 and you go to the market and it's next to you and you go to somewhere and you're sad.
• 48:22
  You eat, you're happy, you eat, you celebrate, you eat, you're depressed, you eat.
• 48:25
  Everything you do, you eat.
• 48:26
  And and like so what people celebrate all the career achievement or the family achievement.
• 48:34
  Like nobody's celebrating when you go on a diet.
• 48:37
  No.
• 48:38
  No.
• 48:39
  In fact, in fact, you're now boring and you know, they're not.
• 48:42
  Oh, you're not out.
• 48:43
  We can go out with you.
• 48:44
  It's not fun anymore.
• 48:46
  Right.
• 48:47
  So everything else.
• 48:47
  I'm fine.
• 48:48
  You can still go out with me and I'll say no to some things.
• 48:50
  But that's not what people think.
• 48:52
  They think, oh, I'm going to be like a bummer.
• 48:53
  But my friends don't support it.
• 48:55
  Like if you make a million dollars, everyone's like, oh, or, you know, you get that promotion at work or you sell your business.
• 49:01
  Everyone's like cheering.
• 49:01
  Congratulations.
• 49:03
  You tell people I'm not drinking anymore.
• 49:05
  And now there's like judgment.
• 49:06
  Oh, yeah.
• 49:06
  There's judgment.
• 49:07
  So funny because last week.
• 49:10
  we hosted some friends over for like a brunch and a play date.
• 49:14
  And it's new friends because we just moved to Miami.
• 49:17
  And I made like a brunch, but there was a lot of food I love to cook.
• 49:22
  And he was saying like, come hungry, Corinne made a lot of food.
• 49:25
  And then he was telling them that at the beginning, when we started hosting a lot in LA, people would eat before they come over because they think they're just going to eat some lettuce.
• 49:34
  Yeah.
• 49:35
  And then all of a sudden they go in.
• 49:36
  See, there's a stigma about you as a person.
• 49:38
  A stigma.
• 49:39
  And then all of a sudden they walk inside and there's so much food and so much options.
• 49:43
  It's like a huge spread.
• 49:45
  It's just healthy.
• 49:46
  But it's not boring health.
• 49:48
  It's just made from real food, made from scratch.
• 49:50
  High quality ingredients can be a pasta just with high quality ingredients.
• 49:53
  It can be meat.
• 49:54
  It can be whatever it is, just real food.
• 49:57
  So it's a lot of misconceptions that we have towards that.
• 50:00
  And also goes back to the people that are on constant diet.
• 50:03
  Because they're on a constant diet.
• 50:04
  They don't live a lifestyle.
• 50:06
  So it's like, I had a friend who was like, yeah, I'm doing now the unshowy diet.
• 50:08
  I'm like, what?
• 50:11
  She's like, yes, I'm eating unshowies and sardines.
• 50:13
  Like, what do you mean?
• 50:15
  Three times a day?
• 50:16
  She's like, yeah, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
• 50:18
  For how long?
• 50:18
  She's like, 10 days.
• 50:19
  I'm like,
• 50:20
  So people think that because they limit themselves, they just can't make any other choices.
• 50:23
  It's going to default to them losing weight or whatever.
• 50:26
  I'm also curious, do you believe that people have a true addiction?
• 50:31
  Like a mental... Of course.
• 50:33
  So if people have an addiction to food, then your body naturally isn't trying to solve that problem.
• 50:43
  If you're dependent on smoking cigarettes, for example,
• 50:47
  Every day your body's not waking up thinking, how do I stop smoking?
• 50:51
  True.
• 50:51
  I'm just curious if, like, we're talking about why successful people have a problem, and even on whatever, any version of people have a problem, not just successful people, sorry.
• 51:00
  We were talking about, like, how somebody's successful in one version, area of their life, and they're not so great at figuring out their diet.
• 51:06
  Is it because, like, they don't even realize, but they're addicted to the food that they're eating, so there's, like, it takes that much more willpower
• 51:15
  So we blamed willpower in a lot of places where it's not just willpower.
• 51:19
  Listen, the world of nutrition doesn't recognize...
• 51:25
  Sugar is an addiction.
• 51:26
  It doesn't.
• 51:28
  Like if you do a deep dive into the science, sugar is not an addiction for them.
• 51:33
  But you get people off sugar and they go through withdrawal from sugar.
• 51:38
  So this is a classic sign of addiction.
• 51:39
  It's a classic sign of addiction, but it's not documented in science.
• 51:43
  And also food is not documented, DSM, as...
• 51:47
  as an addiction because you need food to live, to sustain yourself, to survive.
• 51:53
  You don't need alcohol, cigarettes, or drugs in order to survive and sustain.
• 51:58
  So it's very problematic, that thin line.
• 52:00
  And of course, there's also got to do, money got to do with it, you know?
• 52:04
  So there's always the sugar addiction, whatever it is, but you see kids, like when you introduce kids into sugar, you all of a sudden see that the only thing they want to consume is sugar.
• 52:13
  You're going to give a two-year-old just like,
• 52:15
  a Coke and a candy and sugar and chocolate, he wouldn't want to eat food anymore.
• 52:19
  He just wants that like sweet cravings all the time.
• 52:22
  Their taste buds change.
• 52:24
  Their chemical, the chemistry in the brain change and all of a sudden they just crave that.
• 52:28
  But no, we don't talk about that.
• 52:30
  Or we just do the replacement.
• 52:31
  We use the Splenda, we use the Aspartame, which is even worse because it makes you even crave more and more and more.
• 52:38
  I think once people...
• 52:40
  get off ultra processed food completely as a cold turkey.
• 52:44
  The first 72 hours are really hard.
• 52:46
  But after that, you pass that, you realize it's not so hard.
• 52:49
  And all of a sudden you start feeling good, start having energy.
• 52:53
  All of a sudden a banana tastes really sweet.
• 52:56
  And food has a different flavor, but it's not the MSG and the tons of sodium and the tons of all of those, you know, natural flavors and everything.
• 53:05
  They're just enhancing into our food to make it like an addictions.
• 53:08
  Like you open a bag of Pringles, you don't eat one.
• 53:11
  No, of course not.
• 53:12
  So this is what I mean.
• 53:13
  So if you've been eating ultra processed food since you were a kid, then there is a little bit of a withdrawal effect.
• 53:20
  Oh, of course.
• 53:21
  And also there's another thing is that if you were as a teen growing up being overweight, so there's a few times in your life where your fat cells...
• 53:35
  increase so when you're a baby until the end of your teen life and also for women that are pregnant so basically let's say you're now 18 you have whatever a million fat cells those are not going to change they can expand they can get smaller get bigger they cannot duplicate themselves but when you're growing up in your teen life they do
• 53:56
  So if you are raised and in your teen life you became obese or very overweight, you have more fat cells in your body.
• 54:06
  So it's also harder for you as an adult to lose that weight because your body always thrives to go back to that.
• 54:15
  So we know that I think the number is about 50% of people that were overweight, obese as teens have most likelihood to also be as an adult.
• 54:25
  So it starts very early.
• 54:27
  It also starts when the women are pregnant, but that's not talked about at all.
• 54:32
  There's like the first two years of a baby's life, which is...
• 54:36
  the three months before a woman conceived pregnancy and the first year of a baby's life.
• 54:41
  That changes their gut microbiome, their immunity.
• 54:45
  There's a lot of things that got to do with that, but it's not talked about.
• 54:47
  Like women pregnancy and what they eat is what, eat whatever you want, like eat da da da.
• 54:52
  It's not talked enough.
• 54:53
  They just give you prenatal and that you feel that that's it.
• 54:57
  That's what you need to do.
• 54:57
  And I get it.
• 54:58
  I was pregnant three times.
• 55:00
  I went through, you know, throwing up.
• 55:03
  not wanting to eat anything, can't smell eggs, can't see chicken.
• 55:07
  Everything makes me nausea.
• 55:08
  Like, I get it.
• 55:09
  Like, my pregnancies were not easy.
• 55:12
  So I understand the hustle, but I also think that you can choose better.
• 55:16
  Not perfect.
• 55:17
  Just better.
• 55:18
  I'm just curious, because a lot of what we're talking about, like food almost programs us a certain way if you keep eating it again and again and again.
• 55:29
  So for somebody, for example, who's pregnant,
• 55:34
  If you kind of switch to healthier food before you get pregnant, does it make the pregnancy easier?
• 55:39
  If you've already gone through this withdrawal process?
• 55:42
  It should, because also when you're healthier and you're lower weight, not like a healthy weight, yeah, then your pregnancy is easier.
• 55:49
  You have less likelihood of like gestational diabetes or to be heavier in the pregnancy, which is hard as is.
• 55:55
  So, of course, there's a lot of things.
• 55:57
  The age also plays a big role in pregnancies.
• 56:00
  The older you're at, the harder it is.
• 56:02
  I can say it on myself.
• 56:03
  When I was 32, my pregnancy was much easier versus when I was 37.
• 56:07
  Do people get this advice when they're trying to get pregnant?
• 56:10
  Like, oh, also focus on your health and wellness for the six months?
• 56:13
  Not at all.
• 56:14
  Not at all.
• 56:15
  Like my OB, who I love in LA, was always like preaching for that.
• 56:21
  But I don't feel it's talked enough at all.
• 56:25
  But that's for all medicine.
• 56:26
  Like you go to the doctor and there's something.
• 56:29
  No one asks you, so how's your lifestyle?
• 56:31
  What are you eating?
• 56:31
  Are you working out?
• 56:32
  Are you sleeping well?
• 56:33
  Are you stressed?
• 56:34
  Are you taking care of yourself?
• 56:35
  It's like, oh, okay.
• 56:37
  Your cholesterol is high.
• 56:37
  You have high blood pressure.
• 56:38
  Let me prescribe you with one, two, three.
• 56:40
  Give you some statins and call it a day.
• 56:42
  Go home and go home for the rest of your life.
• 56:44
  That's it.
• 56:45
  No one asks you, so let alone in pregnancy.
• 56:47
  Pregnancy is more of like the baby's healthy?
• 56:49
  Yeah.
• 56:49
  Great.
• 56:50
  There's no problems?
• 56:51
  Great.
• 56:51
  Which is important, but there's more.
• 56:54
  Every conversation I have on this show about health and wellness, it really just comes back to self-advocacy and self-education.
• 57:00
  Yes.
• 57:02
  And, you know, it's tough, but nobody's coming to save you and nobody has their interests in mind better than you.
• 57:09
  No one.
• 57:09
  And if that can be like the main message, I think that's fine.
• 57:13
  I think that's like just focus on learning this shit yourself.
• 57:18
  Focus on advocating for yourself.
• 57:20
  And doctors can be great, but there's also the white rope syndrome where you just see the doctor and you're all of a sudden, okay, whatever he says is like, that's it.
• 57:30
  It's sacred.
• 57:31
  But also doctors don't know everything about nutrition at all.
• 57:35
  And they make mistakes and they're human and they work a lot of hours a day and they have 30 more patients that they've seen today and you're one of them and you live your life.
• 57:44
  So I think that, I don't want to say challenging, but asking questions, researching yourself, coming with that database, like self-advocating.
• 57:52
  I also think there needs to be a new job of like a doctor that like oversees people's
• 57:59
  you know, medical records and actually understand, oh, this doesn't, you're feeling, okay, let's give you another medications, but do the medication have a problem interacting?
• 58:08
  So they have like a holistic view of everything.
• 58:09
  A holistic view of everything because doctors specialize in a specific field.
• 58:13
  I do kidneys, I do this, I do this.
• 58:15
  Okay, but we are whole, we're not a kidney.
• 58:18
  A high stress lifestyle.
• 58:19
  A lot of people who are listening to this are entrepreneurs, they're founders, they're building.
• 58:23
  You are as well.
• 58:25
  What does a high stress lifestyle do to your health?
• 58:28
  So cortisol is like the stress is like your silent killer.
• 58:31
  Listen, we can be unstressed.
• 58:33
  Like our body can handle stress.
• 58:35
  Like I always said to people that come to me, I said, listen, I can pull you out of the situation.
• 58:40
  I'll put you in this village in Costa Rica and let you surf all day long.
• 58:43
  Even though it's great, it's not reality.
• 58:47
  So I always say, look at it.
• 58:49
  It's like your body is like a bank account.
• 58:50
  And if you just debit money out of it at some point, no money would be left.
• 58:55
  You also have to make deposits.
• 58:58
  So deposits, work out, eat well.
• 59:01
  If you like to meditate, if you like to do yoga, I cannot stand yoga for me.
• 59:05
  This is me off, but I work out and that's my mindset.
• 59:07
  You know, I go lift weights.
• 59:09
  And for me, I come back super calm.
• 59:11
  You put me in yoga.
• 59:11
  I come back super stressed.
• 59:15
  And it's fine.
• 59:15
  No one size fits all.
• 59:17
  But you have to make those deposits.
• 59:19
  You have to take that time off.
• 59:21
  You have to plan vacations.
• 59:22
  You need to take the rights up.
• 59:23
  Like you have to make sure you're giving your body something in return.
• 59:26
  Otherwise, you're just taking, taking, taking, taking.
• 59:29
  At some point, it will be empty.
• 59:31
  So we can eliminate the high stress.
• 59:34
  But we can give extra to your body knowing that's the certain lifestyle you live.
• 59:39
  You have to give it more.
• 59:40
  I think that with this audience in particular, the biggest issue is they keep, they know that health and wellness is important.
• 59:48
  Yeah.
• 59:49
  They see enough podcasts and they see it on.
• 59:50
  They see it connect, the ties, everyone talks about it now.
• 59:53
  Yeah.
• 59:53
  Like in this like entrepreneur circle, enough people talk about how important health and wellness is.
• 59:58
  Like nobody wants to be rich, successful and, you know, be dying.
• 1:00:03
  But a lot of them, they keep putting it off.
• 1:00:06
  They put off for later and they'll do it.
• 1:00:08
  I don't have time right now.
• 1:00:09
  I'm building my business.
• 1:00:11
  I'll take care of it when I exit or when I'm on to the next thing.
• 1:00:15
  I feel like people don't realize how important it is to maintain.
• 1:00:21
  Maybe not be perfect about it.
• 1:00:24
  Yeah, but just do something.
• 1:00:25
  Just do something.
• 1:00:26
  And I'm curious if...
• 1:00:28
  If somebody is of the mindset of I'll do it later, what's outside of, you know, slapping them and telling them like, no, that's a stupid way to look at your health.
• 1:00:37
  What is a sign that something's off in their life?
• 1:00:40
  Like what is, is it, is it you're getting tired in the afternoon?
• 1:00:45
  Is it like your grain fog?
• 1:00:49
  What is it?
• 1:00:50
  I think it's like problem with sleep.
• 1:00:55
  They're stressed.
• 1:00:55
  They wake up a lot during the night or they can't fall asleep.
• 1:00:58
  Waking up feeling fatigue.
• 1:01:00
  Brain fog.
• 1:01:00
  Feeling tired.
• 1:01:01
  The need for like caffeine all the time.
• 1:01:04
  Being very edgy.
• 1:01:06
  Bowel movement that isn't working properly.
• 1:01:08
  Feeling bloated after each meal.
• 1:01:10
  Like there's a lot of signs along the way.
• 1:01:12
  Like your skin is not healing properly.
• 1:01:14
  You catch every virus that anyone comes close to you or you don't.
• 1:01:19
  But when you do, it takes you...
• 1:01:21
  three weeks to heal from it.
• 1:01:22
  Every cold takes you two weeks to recover.
• 1:01:24
  So your body gives you the sign.
• 1:01:26
  It's just, I don't know if you're listening.
• 1:01:29
  If somebody is getting some of these symptoms, the one thing that I've always noticed for me is whenever I'm overworking, because I've always cared about my health.
• 1:01:39
  I've been playing sports and working until I was 10 years old.
• 1:01:43
  But when I really, really, really- Which has got to do with it because it was-
• 1:01:47
  a part of your DNA and how you were raised.
• 1:01:51
  And that's why it's so important.
• 1:01:52
  I always say to my kids, it doesn't matter which sports you choose.
• 1:01:55
  Each and every one of you needs to do sports constantly.
• 1:01:59
  I don't mind soccer, football, dancing, gymnastics.
• 1:02:02
  You do sports.
• 1:02:02
  In this house, everyone needs to be in some sort of activity.
• 1:02:05
  It gives you dedication, sacrifice, discipline, everything.
• 1:02:10
  Like it changes who you are to learn how to, you know,
• 1:02:13
  Lose, win, sacrifice, work harder, and understand that hard work gets you anywhere you want to be.
• 1:02:19
  Yes, to all of it.
• 1:02:20
  I've played sports my whole life.
• 1:02:22
  And forget the fact that it just keeps you healthy.
• 1:02:25
  It is like the mindset change, the doing hard shit, the working with the team, the leader.
• 1:02:31
  Like there's so many...
• 1:02:32
  things that cross over from sports to help you with the rest of your life.
• 1:02:36
  But when I am really run down, even though I still work out, still eat healthy, I get the worst colds.
• 1:02:46
  My body is like, Scott, you need to chill the fuck out.
• 1:02:50
  We're shutting this down right now.
• 1:02:51
  And then I'm like, okay, I need to not travel.
• 1:02:54
  I need to not do anything.
• 1:02:56
  I need to not go to the gym.
• 1:02:58
  I think a lot of people, unfortunately, especially this audience, they wait until it's
• 1:03:03
  Too late?
• 1:03:04
  Too late.
• 1:03:04
  Like they burn out?
• 1:03:05
  Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Yeah, then you pay a price.
• 1:03:07
  I used to do it.
• 1:03:08
  I get it.
• 1:03:09
  I would go in like such a high mode, high mode, high mode, then you burn out.
• 1:03:12
  And then today, I don't get there anymore.
• 1:03:14
  Like I understand that the price you pay is too high.
• 1:03:17
  So you reach this peak.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah.
• 1:03:19
  And it's really high.
• 1:03:20
  But then the downtime is also really long.
• 1:03:22
  So it's not worth it.
• 1:03:23
  It's like better being here all the time versus here and there.
• 1:03:26
  You mentioned this at the beginning of the podcast, and I want to just highlight this for people.
• 1:03:30
  What does feeling good actually feel like?
• 1:03:34
  What does being healthy actually feel like?
• 1:03:37
  You mentioned like lack of brain fog, maybe better skin, getting sick less.
• 1:03:42
  You said also at the beginning, not many people know what it like.
• 1:03:47
  Not many people experience feeling good.
• 1:03:50
  What is that?
• 1:03:51
  Like what is feeling good?
• 1:03:53
  It's a good question because it's hard to accumulate into a few things.
• 1:03:57
  But for me, it's like waking up in the morning, feeling energized, feeling motivated, like pushing.
• 1:04:03
  Like, I want to say not feeling that I'm dragging myself all day long, feeling lethargic, not feeling good.
• 1:04:10
  My hair is shedding all the time.
• 1:04:12
  My skin is bad all the time.
• 1:04:14
  I'm not getting sick.
• 1:04:15
  Like very rarely I get sick.
• 1:04:16
  And if I get sick, it's fine.
• 1:04:18
  But like you actually feel that your body operates in a good level.
• 1:04:22
  I don't get tired after each meal.
• 1:04:24
  I don't need to lay down to rest after each meal.
• 1:04:27
  I can just go.
• 1:04:27
  I can be on caffeine and I can be not and I love coffee.
• 1:04:31
  But like now I felt like in the past week, the coffee didn't do justice with me.
• 1:04:35
  So today I had my first coffee after a week because I felt like my body needs a break.
• 1:04:39
  You also need to be attentive to your body.
• 1:04:43
  One day you need this.
• 1:04:44
  The other day you need other things.
• 1:04:45
  You need to be receptive.
• 1:04:47
  We're not like a linear, you know, line that is just like that all the time.
• 1:04:51
  So for me, if I feel tired in the middle of the day, I don't have energy.
• 1:04:55
  I don't feel like going to the gym.
• 1:04:58
  I don't feel like I'm sharp enough.
• 1:04:59
  I have something in my, I stop, I pause.
• 1:05:03
  What's going on?
• 1:05:04
  What do you need?
• 1:05:06
  I traveled a lot.
• 1:05:07
  I had some family issues.
• 1:05:09
  I had some stuff.
• 1:05:10
  Do I need to change my supplement routine?
• 1:05:11
  Do I need to go more on a walk?
• 1:05:13
  Do I need some time off?
• 1:05:14
  Do I need some quality time?
• 1:05:16
  What do I need?
• 1:05:16
  Like I stop and ask myself because I feel something changes.
• 1:05:21
  Is it my age?
• 1:05:21
  Is it my hormones?
• 1:05:22
  I don't just go, go, go, go, go.
• 1:05:23
  But you are super aware of your body, your mood, your energy.
• 1:05:27
  But I got there because I actually give my body what it needs.
• 1:05:31
  So I now know how am I supposed to feel.
• 1:05:33
  If you never know how you're supposed to feel good, then you always feel bad.
• 1:05:36
  So you've like established your own baseline.
• 1:05:38
  You need to establish the baseline.
• 1:05:39
  That's a good thing to say.
• 1:05:41
  I like that a lot.
• 1:05:42
  You need to establish the baseline.
• 1:05:43
  Because I think a lot of people, they just kind of wake up and they go through their day.
• 1:05:47
  And some days they feel good.
• 1:05:48
  Some days they feel bad.
• 1:05:48
  They have no idea why.
• 1:05:50
  No, and there's always a connection, a correlation.
• 1:05:52
  It can be even for women, your cycle, before your cycle, this.
• 1:05:55
  Like, there's changes.
• 1:05:56
  Like, we're not the same every time.
• 1:05:58
  And there's also stuff you go through.
• 1:06:00
  Do you give it the time to process?
• 1:06:02
  You don't have the time to process.
• 1:06:03
  Like, for me, we move from whatever.
• 1:06:06
  This is something, you know, small.
• 1:06:08
  Not small, but whatever.
• 1:06:09
  We move from L.A. to Miami.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  I was really debating whether I want to move or not.
• 1:06:13
  For six months, I processed the situation.
• 1:06:15
  For six months, I cried.
• 1:06:17
  I talked.
• 1:06:17
  I went to say goodbye to every person in LA that I know from my pediatrician, my OB, the teachers of my kid.
• 1:06:24
  Every person.
• 1:06:25
  I went to say goodbye, gave a hug, gave a gift.
• 1:06:29
  shed some tears, I processed.
• 1:06:31
  When I got here, I felt like I'm ready to do, by the way, last week I went to LA, it was sad for me to leave, but it's like, you need to give room to those things you go through, we're not a machine.
• 1:06:43
  A lot of people treat themselves like a machine.
• 1:06:45
  And I'm a resilient, strong person.
• 1:06:48
  I'm not a machine.
• 1:06:49
  I pause.
• 1:06:50
  I let myself process.
• 1:06:51
  And I feel that if I went through a week that my body needs more TLC, then I'll give them more TLC.
• 1:06:56
  And I can work 24-7.
• 1:06:59
  But where will it lead me?
• 1:07:01
  I love this.
• 1:07:02
  I think that so many people, if they just gave themselves a little bit more space.
• 1:07:09
  Yeah.
• 1:07:11
  then they would actually achieve what they're trying to actually achieve in a much more efficient way.
• 1:07:16
  But instead of giving themselves space, this is something that I've dealt with my whole life.
• 1:07:20
  I just work, don't give myself time to process, jump into the next thing.
• 1:07:25
  You're talking about what did you do on Labor Day?
• 1:07:27
  I was playing around with all these different AI tools and shit like that.
• 1:07:32
  I've gotten better at it, but it's hard for me.
• 1:07:35
  It's very hard for me.
• 1:07:36
  I get it.
• 1:07:37
  I think...
• 1:07:38
  If you want to become a dad, I think one day when you will become a dad, I think that will give you a different perspective.
• 1:07:45
  It happened to me.
• 1:07:46
  So I'm saying from my experience that I was always go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
• 1:07:50
  And then when Gabriel, my first, was born, after I stayed at home with him as a baby and whatever it is, once he went into preschool, I think he was like 20 months or whatever it is, at 2 p.m., my day stopped.
• 1:08:06
  It's mommy time, whatever it is.
• 1:08:08
  And it's just the world stopped.
• 1:08:10
  And I think that when you don't have those commitments, then you actually are not as effective as a person because then you have endless amounts of time to just do anything with.
• 1:08:23
  You know, one of my really good friends, you may meet him.
• 1:08:26
  His name's Leo Pereja.
• 1:08:27
  He's the CEO of EXP.
• 1:08:29
  So big real estate company.
• 1:08:31
  But he lives down here.
• 1:08:32
  Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  We met him and his wife when we moved down.
• 1:08:34
  And we always have this conversation because, you know, I'm working nonstop and I'm like, you know, I want to have kids.
• 1:08:40
  and the classic thing is, well, I don't know if I'm going to have time for kids.
• 1:08:43
  You will.
• 1:08:44
  And he said the same thing.
• 1:08:45
  He said, Scott, you don't get it.
• 1:08:46
  Like when you have kids, you become better at everything else.
• 1:08:48
  At everything else because you don't have time to waste.
• 1:08:50
  No, you don't have any time.
• 1:08:51
  You're like efficient.
• 1:08:52
  You know, like most of us waste time on bullshit that we don't need to be spending time on.
• 1:08:57
  But when you have kids, you don't have time for bullshit.
• 1:09:00
  No, because you also want to spend time with them.
• 1:09:02
  Of course.
• 1:09:03
  So you just focus on the stuff that moves the needle in your life.
• 1:09:06
  So it's almost like a forcing function to only do the things that matter.
• 1:09:10
  Exactly.
• 1:09:13
  I don't know how we got here from health.
• 1:09:15
  Because I think health is an overall mindset and I think raising healthy kids.
• 1:09:19
  I remember.
• 1:09:20
  It was the fact that we don't pay attention to ourselves, don't give us time to think about.
• 1:09:25
  And kids stop you whether you want it or not.
• 1:09:27
  They stop you.
• 1:09:29
  And they give you that time because you also realize that time passes by so fast and it's so precious when they're small.
• 1:09:36
  Like I look at my seven and a half year old and I'm like, I can't believe it.
• 1:09:39
  You were a baby a minute ago.
• 1:09:41
  The time just flies by.
• 1:09:43
  And you realize that that's the most important task in your life.
• 1:09:47
  Because this will be your continuous, this is what, this is your legacy, this is what you're living in the world.
• 1:09:53
  And you really want to give them a day all between, you know, that balance of like giving them a great life, but also teaching them the values, the discipline, you know, the hard work that they need to do because they are raised differently than how I was raised.
• 1:10:06
  And bringing it full circle to your own health.
• 1:10:11
  Like now you have someone else to live for.
• 1:10:13
  Oh, 100%.
• 1:10:14
  You know that word, I would die for my kids.
• 1:10:16
  And then they ask, but would you live for them?
• 1:10:19
  I love that.
• 1:10:20
  Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  So would you do anything that needs to do in order to live a healthy, good life for your kids?
• 1:10:27
  Because all you want to be is be healthy, running around with them.
• 1:10:31
  Exactly.
• 1:10:31
  The scariest thought is that they'll be left alone without you in this world.
• 1:10:35
  So would you do anything to make sure you'll be here?
• 1:10:39
  And this is where you start to care about your health, not from like a, you know, selfish perspective from how can I be on this earth as long as possible, living in the best quality of life, not just living and existing and having, God forbid, dementia or depression.
• 1:10:55
  which started now being in an earlier age, which is so sad.
• 1:10:57
  Horrible.
• 1:10:59
  But you see people, again, that are, you know, 85, 90, 95, and their quality of life is horrible.
• 1:11:05
  And it's gotten to the point where some people are now, you know, I don't know a better word, but like, like don't judge me for using this word, but like a burden on their family.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah, but 95, I feel like you lived a full life and a full circle.
• 1:11:19
  You know who's 95?
• 1:11:20
  William Shatner.
• 1:11:23
  Really?
• 1:11:23
  Oh, I wouldn't think so.
• 1:11:26
  He's very, very, very healthy.
• 1:11:28
  He has a podcast.
• 1:11:30
  No, he's so sharp.
• 1:11:31
  But that's rare.
• 1:11:32
  That's like the normality.
• 1:11:34
  But that should be what we're going towards.
• 1:11:36
  And that's what we should be aiming for.
• 1:11:37
  Everyone's talking about biohacking and longevity and living longer.
• 1:11:41
  But if you're living from 90 to 100 and...
• 1:11:45
  you're in like a home and you have dementia, Alzheimer's, and your health is not good.
• 1:11:51
  That's not what people want.
• 1:11:52
  Yeah, that's not what people want.
• 1:11:53
  But I think that's also you're now going into the 90 and 100.
• 1:11:56
  Now we're talking about people in their 40s and 50s that they look like in their 70s, and they can walk, run, chase after their kids.
• 1:12:05
  And so I think it starts.
• 1:12:07
  And also, by the way,
• 1:12:09
  What you do in your 30s, 40s, 50s has a direct correlation to how you're going to age in your 70s.
• 1:12:15
  And this is why you can't push it off.
• 1:12:16
  Exactly.
• 1:12:17
  Because what you do now will impact me at 70 and 80.
• 1:12:22
  Not what I'll do at 65.
• 1:12:23
  Because the muscle mass, I won't be able to build at 65.
• 1:12:27
  The brain cells won't be the same at 65 as they are today.
• 1:12:31
  Everything, it's like maintenance starts like, you know, we deteriorate after the age of 25.
• 1:12:36
  So you need to start building it up.
• 1:12:38
  Like there's a constant point.
• 1:12:39
  It's never too late, but there's comes a point where it's not as productive.
• 1:12:44
  It's not as efficient.
• 1:12:44
  It's easier to maintain than to start building.
• 1:12:47
  It's easier to maintain than start, but there's no too late.
• 1:12:51
  You know, it's always better to start than not to start, just to say that.
• 1:12:55
  But then on the other hand, you know, just to do those things like socially, mentally, everything, just to do it together, to do it in a place where you want to be in your 70s and 80s and be with your kids and grandkids and feel great.
• 1:13:06
  Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  Well, there's so many different pieces to health, wellness, food, nutrition.
• 1:13:11
  Do you feel like the industry is getting more or less honest?
• 1:13:16
  Less.
• 1:13:16
  Less still.
• 1:13:17
  Even with, you know, Bobby Kennedy trying to make America healthy again and like, is it?
• 1:13:25
  I think it's just that truth is not as important anymore.
• 1:13:28
  It's more the narrative you're predict you're like dictating.
• 1:13:32
  And I think it's just it's so hard to find the truth today.
• 1:13:35
  And I think we came so far from it.
• 1:13:37
  So it's almost impossible to know what the truth is now.
• 1:13:40
  What is the biggest lie in the food diet health industry?
• 1:13:46
  I think, first of all, people still feel there's like a magic thing, a magic pill, a magic shot that will make you feel great.
• 1:13:53
  So it used to be diet pills.
• 1:13:54
  Now it's GLP-1.
• 1:13:55
  Just take it and everything will go away.
• 1:13:57
  You're going to feel amazing.
• 1:13:59
  No side effects.
• 1:14:00
  No nothing.
• 1:14:00
  Okay.
• 1:14:01
  They had some great advantages.
• 1:14:03
  What about the disadvantages?
• 1:14:04
  Does anyone talks about it?
• 1:14:06
  There's no shortcuts, no free meals in the world.
• 1:14:09
  Everything comes with a price.
• 1:14:10
  So, I mean, to your point, you don't think GLP-1s are good for people?
• 1:14:14
  I think peptides in general, I think there's a lot of advantages.
• 1:14:18
  I think there's a lot of problems.
• 1:14:19
  It's not regulated.
• 1:14:21
  I'm not specifically talking about GLP-1.
• 1:14:22
  I'm talking about peptides in general.
• 1:14:23
  It's not regulated enough.
• 1:14:25
  So you don't know exactly what you're putting into your body because there's not enough regulation.
• 1:14:30
  People that don't understand what it does enough go ahead and sell it.
• 1:14:34
  And for GLP-1, I think it depends on generation.
• 1:14:37
  And I think it also, the question is like, are we talking about people that need seriously to lose weight?
• 1:14:42
  Yes.
• 1:14:42
  And they have tried every other option.
• 1:14:44
  Yes.
• 1:14:44
  You need to lose 10 pounds.
• 1:14:45
  I'm not sure GLP-1 is for you.
• 1:14:47
  No, I think people are using it as a substitute for self-control.
• 1:14:49
  Exactly.
• 1:14:50
  Which I don't know if is healthy.
• 1:14:51
  It's not because then you need to take it for the rest of your life and they have some side effects and you still need to do the work of healthy eating, working out, getting your protein, being active.
• 1:15:00
  And if you don't do that, you're not going to be healthy.
• 1:15:03
  The biggest sort of debates right now in health and wellness, it could be about seed oils, about alcohol, about sugar.
• 1:15:12
  Are these things that you should just completely remove from your diet or some of this a little bit like people are a little bit too aggressive about how bad these things are for you?
• 1:15:23
  Listen, I think seed oils are bad for you.
• 1:15:25
  I have been recommending to people to get off seed oil for 15 years now, so I'm not new.
• 1:15:30
  Yes.
• 1:15:30
  Do I think you're going to get inflammation in a second the minute you're going to eat seed oil?
• 1:15:35
  No.
• 1:15:36
  I think it's also a matter of like how much, what are you eating, what is your day-to-day.
• 1:15:39
  But it doesn't help.
• 1:15:41
  No.
• 1:15:41
  There's nothing good about it.
• 1:15:43
  Sugar, I think we do need to cut off.
• 1:15:47
  Again, if you're consuming sugar here and there, again, if you're living on sugar, no.
• 1:15:50
  And then alcohol.
• 1:15:51
  Listen, I drink alcohol, but I drink like a glass of wine once a month.
• 1:15:56
  So I don't know how to consider that.
• 1:15:57
  I just feel like, again, it's a matter of self-control.
• 1:15:59
  I don't feel the need to completely cut it off from my life completely.
• 1:16:02
  But again, I have a glass of wine every now and then.
• 1:16:06
  I think it's great.
• 1:16:07
  For people who drink daily, I would cut it off.
• 1:16:10
  What was the best diet advice you've ever received or given?
• 1:16:15
  Yeah.
• 1:16:16
  Wow, that's a good question.
• 1:16:21
  Listen, it sounds corny, but I think the mindset is what matters the most out of everything.
• 1:16:26
  And I think like eating real whole foods and your mindset, that that's what matters.
• 1:16:29
  Like if you live, if you like the self-love and self, you know, appreciation, that's what really starts it off.
• 1:16:35
  So I don't have one answer for that.
• 1:16:38
  No, but I think that that's a refrain from what most people would expect you to say.
• 1:16:42
  So it's not about carnivore, intermittent fasting, or pick.
• 1:16:48
  No.
• 1:16:50
  It's everything.
• 1:16:50
  It's your mindset and your habits.
• 1:16:52
  It's almost like a first principles approach.
• 1:16:54
  It's like you figure out the mindset.
• 1:16:56
  And then you go to everything else.
• 1:16:57
  And then everything else is downstream from that.
• 1:16:59
  Exactly.
• 1:17:00
  We can do carnivore.
• 1:17:01
  We can do this.
• 1:17:01
  We can do that.
• 1:17:02
  We can do vegetarian.
• 1:17:03
  We can do vegan.
• 1:17:04
  We can frame it in so many ways.
• 1:17:06
  It's just that it just needs to start with like the basics.
• 1:17:10
  Where can people find all your work, connect with you?
• 1:17:14
  So they can find me on Instagram, which is Corinna Doni Nutrition, on TikTok as well, my website, CorinnaDoni.com.
• 1:17:20
  So I'm always there and available.
• 1:17:22
  And we've gone through all these different pieces of sort of mindset, mental health, diet advice.
• 1:17:28
  If you could pass on just one lesson, the most important lesson to your kids, what would it be and why?
• 1:17:34
  I think it would be like advocate for yourself and self-appreciation would be the number one, like that learn your self-value, have the confidence.
• 1:17:42
  Like I think everything surrounding with that, that's the basics for everything.
• 1:17:47
  Once that's set in mind, I feel that's the growth for everything.
• 1:17:51
  And for me...
• 1:17:53
  I worked really hard to get there because I didn't feel like that.
• 1:17:57
  So it's very important for me to give my kids that.
• 1:18:00
  But then on the other hand, and again, that's why I don't have a straight answer.
• 1:18:03
  That's also what made me figure out so many things myself because I struggled.
• 1:18:09
  So there's no one answer.