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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, October 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is very verious. It is Monday, October five. This
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  Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans. And now a guy who believes that lots,
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  Speaker 1: Jay and P being next to each other is not
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  Speaker 1: a coincidence j P about that they are like right
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  Speaker 1: across the street from each other. Welcome in Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 1: Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on this Monday. J P.
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  Speaker 1: Shadrick in Studio t I A bank Field joining us
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  Speaker 1: on the line, Tony was Sally and Pete Prisco will
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  Speaker 1: get to those guys coming up. The review of the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Bengals game coming up as well. The Jags did
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  Speaker 1: not farewell the banks of the Ohio River yesterday. The
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  Speaker 1: defense in some trouble, let's just say the least they
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  Speaker 1: really in the second half, struggled with a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: injuries and then Joe Mixon running wild all over them.
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  Speaker 1: The offense has their moments, but I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: score thirty a game. It feels like social questions and
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  Speaker 1: we'll go around the National Football League. Tony Pete thirty three.
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  Speaker 1: The final guys, what's up today? How we how are
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  Speaker 1: we feeling? I don't think. I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 1: Now that I think about this, ask you what does
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  Speaker 1: j P stand for Trump? That's incorrect? Do you know
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  Speaker 1: Patrick's current? Patrick? Jean Patrick? Not? No, that's not right,
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  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Patrick, that's not that's not right either. Why are
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  Speaker 1: we playing this game of the opening of the show.
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  Speaker 1: What is going on? Because JP and we want to know?
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  Speaker 1: And I just thinking I never never knew what JP met.
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  Speaker 1: The old joke on the Morning Show with with Hicken
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  Speaker 1: and Processer was one Pablo. They just called me one
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  Speaker 1: Pablo all the time and it so that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: what it turned into. So what is the real? What
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  Speaker 1: is the real? You know, some things are left better
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  Speaker 1: on I'm not going there, man, Okay, it's something Patrick.
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  Speaker 1: Do we know? Patrick is the p That's correct? So um,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you know. You say it, but you know
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  Speaker 1: josiahah No, how about now? But Patrick? Yeah, do you
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  Speaker 1: know what? Tell me close? I'm close. You're not close
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  Speaker 1: with Jeremiah. It's not that easy. All right, let's move on. Well, Joshua,
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  Speaker 1: two hours was crappy, unbelievable. We'll get it out of them.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get it out of saying I'm gonna keep
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  Speaker 1: going to you you will. Jaguars fell in Cincinnati yesterday
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  Speaker 1: thirty three, twenty five the Bengals with the win and
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  Speaker 1: five five total yards allowed. The Bengals punted once in
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  Speaker 1: the game, and they scored on every possession in the
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  Speaker 1: second half except for the kneel down in victory formation
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the thing. There and the injuries
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  Speaker 1: mounted up, but Henderson, Jack Hayden all left the game
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  Speaker 1: on the defensive side. Doug Marone after the game, especially
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  Speaker 1: when Miles Jack left the lineup, had some things to
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  Speaker 1: say about this defense. Yeah, I mean, anytime you lose,
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  Speaker 1: you know what happens in this league. It's it's tough
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  Speaker 1: to get these other guys a lot of reps, you know,
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  Speaker 1: during the course of a week. You know, you're very limited,
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  Speaker 1: so they're preparing in a different way that the guys
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  Speaker 1: that are on the field plane. I think Miles has
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  Speaker 1: been playing at an extremely high level for us. I
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  Speaker 1: think you saw that today early on. Obviously, that was
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  Speaker 1: an unbelievable player he made, and you know he'd been
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  Speaker 1: making place for us the whole time. So you know, C. J.
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  Speaker 1: Henderson goes out and DJ you know, and then Clay
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  Speaker 1: Books goes in for him, and DJ you know, Hayden
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  Speaker 1: goes out, um you know, and then Miles is out.
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  Speaker 1: So um, you know, you got a chance to look
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  Speaker 1: at some tough guys that are that are that are
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  Speaker 1: really giving great effort and just um, um you know
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  Speaker 1: that we're just gonna keep coaching up and get these
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  Speaker 1: guys ready to go. Jack's had a thirteen ten a
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  Speaker 1: halftime lead, but that went away in a hurry. Guys
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  Speaker 1: in that second half after all those injuries. Yeah, before
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  Speaker 1: Jacob could be Jacob okay, Um, well you got two hours,
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  Speaker 1: So JP, I think, I mean it does right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: losing your front line guys doesn't help, and it hurts, um.
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  Speaker 1: But when all those guys were in outside C. J. Henderson,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they went down and scored two touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: um the first two drives in the second half. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you can pend it on all on that.
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  Speaker 1: And also, injuries are part of this game, unfortunately, and
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  Speaker 1: guys get hurt. I mean, you're playing the Bengals team
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  Speaker 1: that we're at, who were without their two starting defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackles Mike Daniels uh and Gino Atkins or two of
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  Speaker 1: their front line guys, DJ Reader are the three guys
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  Speaker 1: that kind of rotate in there, so you know, you
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  Speaker 1: could go down the list. I mean they have the
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  Speaker 1: never they starting tight ends out for injuries. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't buy that always. Um, it's it's not fun,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a good part of the game. No one
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  Speaker 1: likes it. But in the NFL, no one's gonna feel
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  Speaker 1: sorry for you either. And I don't think Dud's asking
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  Speaker 1: for sympathy by by any means. I think when he
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  Speaker 1: was just answering the question, like, hey, it's hard, and
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  Speaker 1: it is hard when you have, you know, guys, you're
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  Speaker 1: better players go out, and I think it's even even
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  Speaker 1: harder based on how the roster has been built right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's super young. Um, the starters were young,
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of experience, not tested um in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you lose those guys
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  Speaker 1: and a couple of guys that were tested around, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and Jack and d J. Hayden, and you get even
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  Speaker 1: younger and less experience, and so you look at the
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  Speaker 1: roster from top to bottom in the way it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of been constructed, losing anybody makes it really difficult, even
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  Speaker 1: in the best circumstances in the NFL. Tough, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it's even um it's even amplified more based on
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  Speaker 1: you know where the Jaguars sitties the roster right now.
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  Speaker 1: When we were in school, you remember, there was always
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  Speaker 1: a kid that never could get good grades. He always
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  Speaker 1: got f F and finally got to see and you clapped,
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  Speaker 1: and you went, yeah, he gotta see. Well, you should
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  Speaker 1: clap the Jaguars. They had a stop on the opening drive,
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  Speaker 1: all right, that's his progress. And they actually made a punt,
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  Speaker 1: which they didn't make the Colts punt of the week.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a step in the right direction. And Tony
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  Speaker 1: in a league of bad defense, and defense is terrible
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  Speaker 1: in this league, awful. They might be the worst in
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  Speaker 1: the league. And teams are gonna do whatever they want,
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  Speaker 1: whenever they want, however they want to them, even if
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  Speaker 1: their starters are on the field. It's a group of
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  Speaker 1: young guys. There's not a ton of talent there. They're
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  Speaker 1: not a good defense right now. And so anything that
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  Speaker 1: you get, if you get a stop on the opening drive,
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  Speaker 1: that's progress, and and granted the run late, you know
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  Speaker 1: the runs by mixing. The young player was at their
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  Speaker 1: corner after Henderson went out, and like you said, Toby
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  Speaker 1: talked earlier, it was a bad fit. But those are
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen. But it's not a good defense right now,
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  Speaker 1: show me aside from Miles Jack. Aside from Miles Jack,
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  Speaker 1: show me one player who's playing to the expectations that
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  Speaker 1: you thought he would play before the season one. Give
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  Speaker 1: me one mm hmm. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you can right. No, Josh Allen is not
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  Speaker 1: I don't think. But you thought he was Josh Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: I would say Josh Johnson. I think you know at safety,
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  Speaker 1: I mean Josh Joan. Sorry, yeah, I'm trying. I got
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of jerrys. I'm trying to think of your name.
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  Speaker 1: But you don't josfectation for him because you didn't think
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  Speaker 1: he was going to be a start, right you didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I said he that's for his medium. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what but okay, is anybody else well Henderson the first
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  Speaker 1: two weeks he's you didn't think he's gonna be on
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  Speaker 1: the field. Of all the guys that you thought were
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  Speaker 1: going to be on the field, of defense and Josh
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  Speaker 1: Hollen's not it's not a good team. I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: then get to eleven. They're not getting to eleven. They
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  Speaker 1: might not hef Yes, I'm backing off JP first of all,
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  Speaker 1: you and people, and I was trying to be positive,
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  Speaker 1: trying to bring energy to the show. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: be the opposite of Pete because he's so negative from
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  Speaker 1: the start. The reality is is if they don't um
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  Speaker 1: cleaning things up, they're not gonna get to four down.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big turf. You just thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: for staying obvious. But you look at it if you
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  Speaker 1: think about this season so far. We were so hopeful
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  Speaker 1: after you know, they beat the Colts. They won that game,
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  Speaker 1: and it was feeling good, but the reality was never
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  Speaker 1: at the punt. It was not a great defensive effort.
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  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers handed him to turnovers, really poor ball. But
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  Speaker 1: you know what they want the game and that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy things happen opening weekend every year in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: and that was one of the crazy things that happened.
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  Speaker 1: They have a good performance against uh Tennessee, but what
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  Speaker 1: we've learned about Tennessee, they have a bad defense too.
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  Speaker 1: And but but we couldn't give a stop and we
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  Speaker 1: had to we couldn't get the drive and we had
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  Speaker 1: to either way. And then you go into the and
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  Speaker 1: we but we still felt pretty good about it because
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  Speaker 1: you know, we never played well up in Tennessee and
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of the narrative going into that game. But
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  Speaker 1: then the then you're sitting there and everyone's talking, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we've got Dolphins coming in. Oh, that's a team we
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  Speaker 1: should be And we got the banking. We have the
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  Speaker 1: easy part quote unquote of our schedule, which always made
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  Speaker 1: me nervous. And because Pete, We've talked about this, JPU
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  Speaker 1: and I've talked about this, like every team when they
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  Speaker 1: played the Jaguars is saying the same thing, like, now
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  Speaker 1: we got a win, and we're not good enough to
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  Speaker 1: make anything easy right now. Um, and you lose two
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  Speaker 1: games and really not close. You got pretty much dominated
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  Speaker 1: by the Dolphins on Thursday night football team. And the
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  Speaker 1: reality is, if you look at this game against Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: was not as close to the final score. Um, they
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  Speaker 1: were dominated in the second half completely the Dolphin. The
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  Speaker 1: Bengals are atrocious on defense themselves. If you look at
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  Speaker 1: the numbers and and they were without you know, they're
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  Speaker 1: starting nickeling some other pieces as well. And we already
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  Speaker 1: talked about the defensive tackles, and so it's just not
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  Speaker 1: a team that's very good. And it's a defense that
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  Speaker 1: can't rush the pastor it can't stop the run. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're playing against arguably the worst offensive line at all
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  Speaker 1: of football on Sunday, and they did not get to
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback at all. Zero. They didn't affect them. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't make him move, they didn't make him nervous, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't make him blank. And and the reality is, and
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  Speaker 1: until that changes, until you start getting better on defense
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  Speaker 1: and start figuring out what to do and offensively, you know,
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  Speaker 1: bring some consistency where you can actually mean because you
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  Speaker 1: have to win shootouts and I'm not I don't think
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  Speaker 1: this offense is capable of winning shootouts the way right now,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's a it's a tough road. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to you know, these young guys that are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be asked to play because you know, we'll wait for
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  Speaker 1: the injury report. But d J. Hayden going off on
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  Speaker 1: the cart after a really bad hamstring pulled that he
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get up chin al hamstring. C. J. Henderson shoulder
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  Speaker 1: didn't come back. I was Jack with an ankle didn't
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  Speaker 1: come back hopefully. You know, it's one week. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, who was your best offensive linement and or
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  Speaker 1: his playing at the highest level. In my opinion, um
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  Speaker 1: goes out. I mean, you've got significant issues on a
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  Speaker 1: team that wasn't playing all that well when they had
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  Speaker 1: some of its better players in it. It's too bad.
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  Speaker 1: They beat the cold and they need to come on
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  Speaker 1: many game, but they didn't bun so they got lucky
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  Speaker 1: to win the game. But if they were just owing forth,
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  Speaker 1: forget about how much brighter the future would be. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: you'd being a being a runoff like jet to see
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't win one the rest of the way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of to the point, to the point of all
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  Speaker 1: the scoring, right, I mean you mentioned the defense is
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  Speaker 1: not great around the league right now, Pete, Yes, this
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  Speaker 1: this week so far in the NFL three winning teams,
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  Speaker 1: only three have one with a point total less than
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  Speaker 1: thirty points. Everybody else is scoring thirty or more points
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  Speaker 1: in their games. And that's that's not just a one
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  Speaker 1: week thing. This is you gotta score. And you know, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but JP, JP, you're gonna okay, you're gonna say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they scored or whatever, and they weren't that bad. That
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  Speaker 1: team was ravaged by the Eagles front last week. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, if you watch that take, don't even my god, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he's lucky to be walking around. Yeah, he's lucky. They
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  Speaker 1: couldn't do it. They couldn't get it done. And they
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  Speaker 1: had what one official sack, and it was because he
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  Speaker 1: slid early before the line of scrimmage, on the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage and they hit him just five times. Where
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  Speaker 1: were the five Well, they were bumps, the bootleg, by
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  Speaker 1: the by the corner that one time when he came
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  Speaker 1: up and blasted and Devon Hamilton had a good pass
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  Speaker 1: rush skipping credit and got a good hit. Other than that,
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  Speaker 1: they bumped them around a little bit. Um, but you
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  Speaker 1: know bad. I mean, I don't want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the draft, and like, let's try to lose them all
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  Speaker 1: so you get the best draft picks they're gonna win
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  Speaker 1: in and starting to talk about the draft right now,
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  Speaker 1: well then you have to start having confident you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: pick the right guys. That's true, that's true, But you
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  Speaker 1: do have two picks, and you got a lot of picks,
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  Speaker 1: so you gotta figure to get a couple of them. Right. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there's some good there's some young cowl on this seat.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's be real, I think when you look at it,
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  Speaker 1: getting James Robins again, Robinson when they got him as
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  Speaker 1: awesome st there, Let's go one other time. Bec want
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  Speaker 1: to do this. I agree, I'll tell you what. Let's
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  Speaker 1: do this when we come back. Then we'll go through individually.
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  Speaker 1: Come back because it's time for a break, that's why.
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  Speaker 1: And I'd like to go through it a little more,
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  Speaker 1: a little more thoroughly. That's not Jonnath Patrick. No, Jona Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: you're over two. Jesse No, no, no, none of the above.
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  Speaker 1: Get it right anyway, No, no, I'll tell you if
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  Speaker 1: you get it right. But you're a way off. It's uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're just underway on Jaguars Happy. That's not it either,
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  Speaker 1: together and the outside, I know, we get home if
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: we look on Instagram, we look at Twitter, and you
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: know a lot of times we are, you know, the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: laughing stock because people love making jokes when they're not
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: in the fire with us. But you know, it's at
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: this point, it's forget them. You know. When I go
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: out there and play, I'm playing for those fifty three
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: fifty six guys. I don't care. I'm from my bottom
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: in the line, and that's just what we have to do.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And I feel like that's the feeling. And if it's not,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: that's what the feeling is going to be. You know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: we just have to go out there. I don't care
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: if we win every game moving on, don't win every
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: game moving on. We're not gonna quit for sure. And
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that's the misset that you gotta have. And somebody's gonna
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: have to fail us tell him. D J. D J. Chark,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Jaguars wide receiver after the game yesterday in Cincinnati and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour j P, Shadrick, Pete, Chrisco
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Tony was selling your social questions for the second hour.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: What are you looking at? Tondy? I could just tell that,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: look he thinks he has it. No, I do have it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It's Jared about that. Congratul looked it up somewhere. Yeah,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: you must have. I found an article back in two
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: thousand and six when the Sun's hired when Jared Sack.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So wait, so when he got hired, he was Jared
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Shadrick Jared quote unquote JP add Rick. Okay, three rules
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: of broadcasting, get all your commercials in, get out on time,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and don't say bad words on here. That's good. That's excellent.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Actually good advice. Thank you. Right, So why did you
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: go from Jared to j P. Well, let's say Toby
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: commercial that's not at all, um no, because it's ridiculous. Dude. Now,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Dad called me that when I was young, and then
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I just wanted something a little different when I was
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: kind of coming up in broadcasting. So yep, you're like,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it's like a Hollywood name. It's like somebody change your name.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: But this was decided to changing. It was like two
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: thousand five, though, man Leo was right, out of college.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not mistaken. Your first name isn't
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Tony either, No, it's my middle name is Amthony. I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: got my middle name, Don Anthony, like on us his
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: real name. What's your whole name? Pete, Peter Salvador Crisco,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: really Salvadorn, start calling you sal you called me whatever
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you want to, I'll change my name the ps Alright,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: let's go. We're gonna talk about let's go about all
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the young players. Let's go to your I can't remember
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: what your point was, but you wanted. Okay, we're talking
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: about the guys that are legitimate pieces to build around
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: on this team right now. Robinson one, Yeah, no, James,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: but listen, Grape fine, but fortunate to find a guy
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that is that good, impactful. I mean, I think JP
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you said this statistic, you know, back on early uh
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: earlier in the games, like the first like only the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: third undrafted rookie free agent that started running back in
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: like thirty years and some crazy staff like that. I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: mean that just can't you don't count on that. But yes,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: he's a good building, good player. Is he on pace
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to have more yards from scrimmage right now than Fournett
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: did last year. I read that, Yes, if he keeps us,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I mean that's that and and people were rabid about
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: four netts year, even though you know he's not there anymore.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive for an undrafted rookie. So he's one
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: d J chart and Channel are two and three as well.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: In the process, you keep, those are guys you build around,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: no question agreed, Okay, good correct offensive line. You're gonna
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: have to make a decision with your starting center, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: think makes a lot of money. That's a lot of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: money for a starting center that has there been a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: significant drop offic shat line the lineup. It has not
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: been noticeable. And now I haven't watched the film because
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I had some technology issues this morning, so I wasn't
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: able to watch it. Um, but they're gonna have to pay,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: came Robinson. I think he now we'll see he's healthy,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and that's a big unknown right now. But based on
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the body of work through four games, I mean, he
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: has really improved his footwork. He looks like a franchise
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: left tackle and he looks good. He does look good,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: so you might be based for the decision where you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: let your center go. And if you can and keep
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: paying your left tackle. They're gonna have to pay if
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: they want to keep them. You can't pay all those guys.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: You can't have all that money on that line. You
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: just can't. Okay, So but the building box, Taylor and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Robinson should be building blocks now the way, if Robinson
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: continues to play the way he's playing this year, yep,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: can nor Well lind There one or two where those
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: guys are gonna have. You would think you would keep Well.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Ken is not expensive, so you're gonna keep him and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: right guard. He's had a very nice He's got one
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: more year right on that deal. I think I'm saying,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, he just signed a new one in the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: off season. I'm pretty sure two years. It was a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: year ago. It was a four year deal though, So yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: so he got two more years left, you keep him.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So you got decision to make with Norwell and Linda
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: for for their price that they are so but they're
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: building blocks with three of the five or you can
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: keep around. So that's pretty good, you would think. Then
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you got to figure out there's nothing to tight end
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that you have to keep any of it, None of it. Ah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So that's it. That's the that's that's your building blocks
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: on offense you left off, you left up very key one,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and that's the quarterback you are now. It sounds like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in the position like he's not the guy. I think
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you look at the two teams play a game yesterday,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and one of those isn't like the other. That's such
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: a cop out. The question is either guy or not. No,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: he's not. He's a capable player to start games and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: have excellent seasons where you win and everything goes right,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: but it's not sustainable success at the quarterback position. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: just don't believe that it is. And I like I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: like what he's done. I like the way his personality
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and everything else. But the numbers are gonna tell you
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a different story, I think, than who he is. If
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you know that, you know what I mean by that,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Just like Blake Bortle's numbers at one year told a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: far different story from who he was. Sometimes we've got
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to be careful in the numbers, um And I'm not,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: by any stretch of imagination, is any of this on
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: him right now. He's the least of their problems. But
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you better solve that position to make everything else around
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it better. And I don't know if he's that guy
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: to make it all around it better. Joe Burrow makes
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: it all around them better. I don't think Gardner mince you.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Does you disagree with me? Tony? I don't think you
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: disagree with me? Um, honestly, this I'm going to still
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: ride defenses on this one. And from this sense is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in fairness to him, let's give him sixteen games. Uh.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I was asked this morning with Dan and Jeff, you
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: know what I think, you know, grade him or whatever?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And I said, if I was really grading him, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: probably would be right now based on what how he's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: played so far this year. Um, Now, am I ready
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to sign up and wave the flag and go sign
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: into a long term deal because he's the franchise quarterback
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and I can and like, I'll put my job on
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the line for that. No, I'm not. Am I ready
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to bury him and say he can't do it? No,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not there either, and and like and so I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: think it's a if you're looking in and this is
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be a debate for the rest of the year
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: with the fan base and and on shows like this
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and the talk show is Mark mits you the guy?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I agree with you? From the standpoint, it is really
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: dangerous to go based on numbers because if you look
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: at that game yesterday, he had three h forty yards,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and one interception, a hundred one quarterback rating.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would after watching the tape of that,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: would say that was a you know, a top end
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: quarterback performance. A lot of those yards at the end
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: soft defense, not a very good defense. You're playing from behind,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you're playing hurry up, um, so on and so forth.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: So um with that, I mean, so I want to
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: see more. I want to see twelve more games. But
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you can say you want sixteen game, you want sixteen games.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: But if you have to make the decision right now,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: if you have to, you don't get your sixteen games.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: You gotta make it right now. What are you saying
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: something like, you don't get what you want and I'm
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: not gonna give you the sixteen games. I'm saying right now, Well,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: but you don't have that power because it's yes or no, Tony,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: yes or no, and Jed alright, don easy done you too?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Sound uh right now? If I had to bet everything
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: like everything I have on it, no, I just I
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: just think now. But but I want to make sure
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: people listening. I'm not saying he can't be after four
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: games last year. If you had to tell me I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: had to bet everything on Josh Allen being the franchise
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: quarterback or after his rookie year, I'd be like, he
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: looks the part, but he's pretty skinnish in the pocket,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and he got better throughout the last year. By the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: end of the year, you're like, all right, and then
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: this year it's like he's the man. It's obvious. But
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: there were also some trade you could look at that, okay,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and that's what That's what I was gonna get to.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: But the difference is Josh Allen is six four, can
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: run and has a Howardzer for a right arm, and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: so he has like top level qualities. Um, And I
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: think it was Bill Belichick. Bill parcels You says like
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: like there's you build out, like there's certain specific specifications
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: for each guy of each position, and the more when
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you get away from those specific uh, those kind of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: qualities that are determined you know what you wanted that position,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Like you start like justifying a certain guy even though
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: he doesn't fit the profile. And basically I think it
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: was him who said, like you get like he tells
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the scouts like you get one of those a year,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: like you can go give me like like to take
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a chance on. But other than that, if you look
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: at over the history of the game, there's certain profile
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: that a guy like you and then if you don't
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: have that, and everyone will bring up Drew Brees. Well,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you know his arm isn't one. I mean
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: it was never like when he came out and I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: don't remember having a questionable arm. It was okay, arm
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: better than it was once he had shoulders. His arm
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: became sto longer. And but another thing that you remember
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees, this is an older Drew Brees is obviously
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: loses arm strength. If you lose something like that, then
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you have to be like over the top of other levels.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And Drew Brees from the pocket can see things and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: anticipate things at the average dude just doesn't do. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: so and I'm not saying Gardener can't do any of those.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is the reason, like a guy like
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, you like give a little bit more um
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: patience for us because he has like tangible like attributes
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that like you just are there. Um, But I'm gonna
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: go back to third and two, third and two yesterday,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: first first drive, I think it was in the second
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: drive where they ended up missing the field goal. Third
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and two, he goes back into the pocket. It's clean
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: as can be, cleanest can be. He's got no. There
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: was third and four and he started turning four. Third
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and four, that's what it was. And the fourth and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: two and he had channel on the right side wide
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: open for a first down, and he put his head down,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: put two hands on the ball, which he's apt to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: do in the pockets sometimes from last week. What was
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the motion from last week he did when he does that,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like you're turning butter or something. Just when he puts
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: through hands on the ball in the pocket, it invariates me.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: But and so yes, those are the little things. Drew
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Brees probably doesn't do that. He probably gets back to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the right side. And if fairness to Drew Brees, I mean,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Finnish mince you, Drew Brees been doing a long time.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: And that's why and that's why, like you forced me
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to make a decision. If I had to bet everything
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: right now, okay, I'd make that bet. But I'm not
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: ready to bear. I'm not ready to give up on
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm like, let's wait, let's see what happens
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: over sixteen games. But I where I'm in a wild
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: alignment with you. Pete is pleased on basics, just on
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a bunch of numbers, because that's where you get in trouble,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and that's where teams get in trouble. Don't you get
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the feeling too, And and you guys are in Jacksville.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: But just I'm talking about nationally too, that people want
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: him to succeed, so they're gonna give him the benefit
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: of the doubt. I think they liked him. He's likable,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: he's he seems like a fun guy, and and people
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like him. And in that town they really like him,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And so I think they're they're hoping he and seeing
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: things maybe that that aren't there. You don't I like
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: him right, I'm rooting for him like I want him
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to be the guy. I don't take this as like
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: me not saying I'm not saying you, I'm not saying me.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, in general, when there's a guy who's likable,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: we have a tendency at times to look past the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: flaws more than maybe you would have for another guy.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. It's almost like Pete, you sometimes
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: see what you want to see and don't see what
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you don't want to see. Exactly selective site. Yeah, like
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: my wife. My wife has that problem. She really likes me,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: loves me, and she just like somehow does not see likenced.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Sometimes she's convinced herself that I'm like good looking, and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know how she does it, but she doesn't.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: But like Joe, back to the football now, it looks
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: like Joe Burrows looked like that quarter NFL quarterback yesterday, Pete.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I've seen all four of his games now because, like
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I watched the tape of the first one
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: because I covered the second one. I watched the tape
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: of their one because we played him week four. So
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I watched all four of his games. Um, he will
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: be as long as he doesn't get hurt behind that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: offensive line, he will be a top five All Pro
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: quarterback that will lead a team UM to the super Bowl.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: He is that good. He is special. You must be
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: listening to me. You're finally listening to me. I love
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it because I said on Draft day on Draft Day,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and these guys give me crap about it. I said
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: he would win one, maybe two super Bowls in the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: next ten years. So now they all have created a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: hashtag to inten to just get under my skin. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: didn't think too. I said he would one maybe too.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: He is that good. And I think, you know I
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: hold back a little bit on quarterbacks. I think he's
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be a superstar. Alright, guys, let's get with you.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment. We'll get back into
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense and get back to what happened yesterday
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and how things can improve if they can improve.
• 34:00
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  Speaker 1: in today's game. Mhm. I mean they also the line
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  Speaker 1: a defensive line that has three first round draft picks
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  Speaker 1: on it and he's performing this poorly. Daddy's shocking when
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  Speaker 1: you think about it, very well, thinking about it, Tony, though,
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  Speaker 1: one of them, hold on before you go through it.
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  Speaker 1: Think about that. As a team, we've invested three first
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  Speaker 1: round picks two you know, one top ten, the other
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  Speaker 1: in the twenties for teens, twenties one teams one twenties um. Now,
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  Speaker 1: granted one of them two of them are very young. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess Stamp two. But like that is shocking to
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  Speaker 1: me when you think about it. It's almost like you
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  Speaker 1: go to the Bengals who have invested all this you know,
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  Speaker 1: all that much on the offensive line? Yes, Jon and
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  Speaker 1: Williams first rounder, the kid who can't start the backup center,
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  Speaker 1: Bill Price first rounder. Um, they had two guys away
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  Speaker 1: first rounder. But those are way back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: a while. With the other kid too, that was a
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  Speaker 1: flop with two of them that that was only six
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  Speaker 1: years ago. Pete, I was gonna say, you can do
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  Speaker 1: in the mix too, right, I mean, that's the only
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  Speaker 1: that's Pete. When you think about this, that's for the Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: That's only and this is the offensive line where you
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  Speaker 1: usually keep guys that are but the but the group
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  Speaker 1: now that's on the field isn't isn't only has The
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  Speaker 1: only first round and that's on the field right now
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  Speaker 1: is is Joey Williams. But the Jaguards are playing three
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  Speaker 1: first rounds on that defense. Chased the snaps yesterday. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's as highest of the year. He made a
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  Speaker 1: nice play on the run play that one time, and
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  Speaker 1: I think he heard his hand on it. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? When he came down and made
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  Speaker 1: the tackle. But again, he's a kid. What is his
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  Speaker 1: fourth game? So okay, we'll get better for the doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a playing isn't playing up to his
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  Speaker 1: standards right now. I think he'd be the first one
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  Speaker 1: to tell you. But he has no help in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: And David Bryant, he's just a guy, that's what he is.
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  Speaker 1: He's a guy. He's a backup, rotational defense. He he
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  Speaker 1: You guys used to have like four guys like him
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  Speaker 1: on your roster. He went better, he better set pain. Yeah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I mean from a production from a production standpoint, no,
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  Speaker 1: And what was that? That thing wasn't a starter, right,
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  Speaker 1: he was a backup now it was him Ronaldo R.
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  Speaker 1: I mean. The one if you when you draft the
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  Speaker 1: guys to get up the field and be or at
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: least be a part a dominant player inside or close
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  Speaker 1: to dominant player. And he's not. He's not awful, that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing about it. He's not awful. He's just not good.
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  Speaker 1: He just is Yeah, haven't. I haven't watched the tape
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  Speaker 1: this week, so I saw just ten play or five?
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  Speaker 1: He saw three games of him so far. Okay, how
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  Speaker 1: would you say? What would you say? He's a guy,
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  Speaker 1: A rotational guy, right, that's what he was. Yeah, it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Is there much difference between him and this different position? Gossips? Yea,
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  Speaker 1: but for the same position. But I'm saying for his position,
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  Speaker 1: his position, Oh, it would be hard to like. Is
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  Speaker 1: there a difference between him and who's our backup? Doug
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  Speaker 1: Coston or you know, or Davon Hamilton's or no, it's
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  Speaker 1: like just no, none of them. None of them are
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  Speaker 1: going to you know, it's it's showber to disappointment. So far,
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  Speaker 1: pretty good the first couple of weeks. Right, I'd only
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  Speaker 1: say no because they allow Miles Jack to go to
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: will I mean, so, I mean that right there makes
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  Speaker 1: them a better because Myles Jack has been He's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: He's been awesome. That's what you should have been playing
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  Speaker 1: all on like like Pro Bowl, all pro like stud yea,
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  Speaker 1: where would you have put tell them? Though you can't
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  Speaker 1: move tell then anywhere. He's way better than tell He
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  Speaker 1: is so much better in telvinn Oh. Yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying he's not. But at the time Telvin Smith was
• 43:04
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  Speaker 1: Up down the field, he got blown off the ball,
• 43:15
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  Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl. You could have you could have made him,
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  Speaker 1: you could have made him a strong safety. He ran well,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I was making a strong safety. You couldn't run backward.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: You can run backwards to be a safety. Well that's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, mis Jack right now is probably playing
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: better than any player on the team. And I would
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: agree he is the best player on that team right now.
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  Speaker 1: He is, no questions, And that's why that injury hurts
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: so bad. So again back to my back to my
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: original question about Joe Schoberg. He's done nothing to stand
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: out to me. No, he has not. Mhm. He hasn't
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  Speaker 1: done anything terrible though. Either he's been in the Pro Bowl. Yeah,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: he's been to the Yes he has. Yes he has.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: So that's that's the state of the defense these days.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: And helps not on the way. This is not this time.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: There's no there's no backup. JP. Look at the back
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: look at the reserves. There's thin. They were thin going
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: in with all the opt outs in the COVID and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that stuff, and then now they're really thin with guys
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: getting hurt. So here's one. Should they start playing shack
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: quarterman instead of showber? Oh come on, Pete, Well, I mean,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: but you bring up a good I want to I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: want to pivot a little bit instead of stupid questions
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  Speaker 1: that Pete asked. It's not just the question when you
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: think about it for the future. Shut up, Come on,
• 44:53
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• 45:00
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• 45:21
  Speaker 1: what would you do differently outside of going to You
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: could argue that you should have gone to a three
• 45:26
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• 45:34
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• 45:36
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• 45:39
  Speaker 1: right now, Like, what do you want him to do?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: He wanted the blitz all the time? Leaveing back there
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: man coverage, No, they can't handle that, Like, what do
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• 45:53
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• 46:04
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• 46:16
  Speaker 1: on should but okay, but okay, let's say that's the case.
• 46:23
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• 46:25
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  Speaker 1: it could be a big boost for downtown Jacksonville and
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  Speaker 1: certainly the area right around the stadium. Here here there are, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: are you there? Sorry? That might be the best stuff
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  Speaker 1: he's ever said. Right, we were waiting with anticipation. I was, um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: It would be great for all Jacksonville, not just the
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  Speaker 1: And so I think it's a great deal. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love the idea. Look, I I don't live there anymore,
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  Speaker 1: I live in Port Lauderdale now, and Port Lauderdale when
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  Speaker 1: There's nowhere to do that in downtown Jacksonville. This would
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my god, that looks like it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: lot j for all that though? Is there? Yeah? There is,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely it's going and the shipyards maybe get developed and
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  Speaker 1: you have all this this downtown's people living down there
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  Speaker 1: and and just to bring back the community. One problem though,
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  Speaker 1: what happens when they moved the stadium to the south. Okay, easy,
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  Speaker 1: just stop easy. You know, you know, as old as
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  Speaker 1: you are at your birthday today, your sixties. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be really old when this thing
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  Speaker 1: won't be able to bounce around the uber and go
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  Speaker 1: play wearing it wearing a diaper, by the way, by that,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a visual I really don't want. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: whiffed on that one, totally whiffed. Yeah you did. That's okay. Hey,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: but back to the stadium though. Aren't they going to
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: have to reduce the stadium? Yeah, I mean it has.
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  Speaker 1: It has to get done, you know. That's that's why
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  Speaker 1: I joked around about moving it. And they have to
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  Speaker 1: create their own facility. I'm a big believer in that.
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  Speaker 1: I think teams need their own facility. Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine all the investment. Excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: all the investment going on down there without some plans
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  Speaker 1: in the next five years to redo the stadium. It's
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• 55:36
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• 55:38
  Speaker 1: for the team, would be good for the organization, like
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: like moving away from downtown, like out to the like
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• 55:47
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• 55:53
  Speaker 1: teams facilities usually aren't near the stadium. Well they aren't,
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  Speaker 1: I'm anymore. You've been the Minneapolis you know where their
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: facility is in the middle of nowhere, and it's started
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: a bunch of development around that as well, which they've
• 56:09
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• 56:11
  Speaker 1: training camp a couple of years ago. Let's come back
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: and double demp he can develop around this his facility.
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  Speaker 1: He moved it to the south side. Sure, why are
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: you in the invest Are you in, Pete? But maybe
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: he should hire me though, I'll develop consultant. Yeah, Salve
• 56:28
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• 56:34
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  Speaker 1: after the game yesterday in Cincinnati, the Jags falls to
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  Speaker 1: track this week against the Houston Texans and breaking news
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: during the time out, Adam Schefter of ESPN reporting that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: the Texans have fired their head coach and GM Bill
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: O'Brien and Romeo Crannell is the likely interim head coach
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  Speaker 1: Pete huge news from Houston. Did O'Brien fire himself? Control?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Hey Bill, get in here, I'm gonna fire you. Why
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: if you're not doing a good job, Okay, you're fired. Look,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: you can't start that way. I would have given him
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: a couple more games if he beat the Vikings. But
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: you lose to the Vikings that that can't happen at home.
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  Speaker 1: The opening part of the schedule was brutal. I don't
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: know if any coach would have with his roster, would
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: have navigated through that without a without a victory, either
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: with a you know, not winning a game. But come on,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: he had to go. And here's the problem. Jack Easterby
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: now has control of that team. You know that he
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: once worked for the Jaguars. Did you know that now?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Doing what he was something inside that organization. I don't
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: know what it was. Look it up. He worked for
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Wait, I don't, I don't need to remember,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: but he did. He worked in the building. So it's interesting,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: I mean direct ramplications for this team. We're going up
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: there to play to Houston. A little bit of a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: interesting situation within the Houston Texas organization. You know how
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: they handle it now, if I'm not mistaken, I can't
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: think of their coordinator. But until this past game he
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: was calling play so um, but Bill Bryant was pretty
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: involved in the game, playing everything else. And then bigger
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: picture for the Houston Texans, my goodness, how they ever
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: allowed him to take over his GM and make the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: moves that he did, Um, giving up the draft capital
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: he did for I don't know. That's I'm saying. Because
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: of the trades of the Dolphins and and you know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and then paying Tuncil twenty two million bucks a year.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: By the way, is the quarterbacks kind of overrated a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: little bit too? I think he holds the football too
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: law I mean again, I said this before the season
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: on this show. Touchdown best is his career hide you
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: would think he through forty and a couple of those seasons. Um,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's as good as they say
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: he is. He's good, but I don't know if he's great.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: And that's part of the problem with that team right now.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: He hasn't played close to being a great quarterback. He's
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff late in the game and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: garbage time, but he hasn't played that well. So but
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: but the timing is opte this early in the season.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Oh and four, though, Tony. I mean with a team
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: that most people, a lot of people pick the win
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: that win that division, the division over the last what
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: six years, right, the most part. Yeah, But I mean
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I still go back to the you know, the last
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: couple off seasons where they allowed him to really to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: what he did with the roster in the draft, capital
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: everything else, losing DeAndre Hopkins and getting you know, David
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Johnson back for one of the best receivers all football.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I mean just defense that is, you know, at one
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: point was one of the better defenses. Now you look
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: at it's old and not very good. They traded two
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: first rounders to Miami to get the tackle before they
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: had a contract ready, right, So then the contract comes
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: around and they gotta pay him, and then well he
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: got rid of Clowning because he didn't like clowning, and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Clowning wasn't working quite frankly, Clowney wasn't worth the money.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: That was actually not a bad trip deal to get
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: rid of him. Hopkins has done well. When he's heard again,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: played hurt yesterday, he's heard he's banged up. Um, but
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: get David Johnson. You should have got more for Hoppy
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: if you could have trade him, go get a first
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: round pick back for him at least. Um, it's just
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: not good. It's not a good by the way, all
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: those Jaguars and the scruntled, dragwary fans cauld rip up
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: those tickets when they had for Moron to be the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: first one to go the division. What does it do
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: for the game this week? Beat? I mean, do you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: think you think the Jags have a better chance of winning?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Because no, Bill O'Brien is an inconsequential I think he's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: in consequenial. I mean, you know, the talent is with
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: this side. The guy's gonna call the other guy was
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: calling the plays. He put back play call duties yesterday
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: it didn't work out. So now they'll go back to
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: him calling the plays. Romeo Cornell, who, by the way,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: it's been a head coach in the league, will put
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: together everything else and put together defense. They'll be they'll
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: be fine. But it doesn't help me. I was just
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: just the opposite. Sometimes you get a little immediate, little
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: kicking the pants, and you played better early and then
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: it falls off to what it is. Have you You
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: haven't been on a team in the NFL where coach
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: got fired, right, you look at his But if you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: look at history, yeah, usually they fired the coach and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: like the next game or two, it's like everyone comes
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: out as energy, it's playing well, and then all of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: a sudden, it's back to what you were. So are
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: you I can't wait for power ranking because well can't
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: wait to see where you put the Texas. It's coming
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: up a little later in this hour. That's so you're
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: not shocked at the timing at all. No, not after yesterday.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I thought he had a chance to go after yesterday.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: But if the Vikings, I mean the Vikings aren't a
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: good team. They're not a good football team, and they
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: weren't just losing. They were getting dominated for much of
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: that game. They couldn't stop the run at all there.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: It was just bad. I watched it was terrible. Not good.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: They're not a good team. What do you need to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: do in this You need to be able to throw it,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: You need to be able to protect. You need to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: be able to knock the quarterback down and cover. They
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: don't cover. They don't knock the quarterback down, they don't protect.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: And sometimes he scattered shoots the ball over the place.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: So they're not a good team right now. By the way,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: you mentioned easter By. His first NFL experience was in
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: the summer of two thousand four with the Jaguars, helping
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: in foot ball operations and public relations. So basically he
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: was an intern here. I don't remember him. Do you
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: know him? I don't know him. And then he left.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: He was here for apparently he was like a team
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: chaplain or something, because if I'm not mistaken, he might
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: have married Brady Quinn, so he officiated the wedding or something. So,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and then he left after that year. This according to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: his official bio on the Titans website. He became the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: character coach at the University of South Carolina, athletics department
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: for the next six years. So he was like, it
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't he like the Patriots brought it back. It was
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: with the Chiefs for a while, if I'm not mistake,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: that's right, yes, correct, all the above. Under what was
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: his title with the Chiefs. It was like character development, Yeah,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: character development or something like that. Yes, So he's now
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the executive executive vice president of football Operations. Now now
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: he's calling the shots, which goes back to minded your
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: theory all the time, Tony, don't go back to our theory.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: And ain't that complicated? Do? Oh boy? So that's the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: breaking news today. Bill O'Brien just moments ago apparently officially
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: let go by the Houston Texans. The Jaguars have the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Texans this week, trying to get back on track after
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: a three game slide. Of course, the Texans on four
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: so combined one and seven record between the teams going
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: into this week's game. Jack's defense having some issues, of course,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: the injuries mounting up, youth and inexperience now on the field,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: and Doug Marone did not have an official injury update
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: for the guys today. He said, we're gonna wait until Wednesday.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: He didn't rule anybody out, which is good news. So
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: we'll see as the week goes along how those guys are. Um. Yeah,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: the pass rush did not get home. One sack was
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: on a slide by Burrow at the line of scrimmage.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Five quarterback hits in that game. The offense, though, had
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: some moments like they most usually do, but it feels
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna have to overcome some of those things.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: On the defensive side. Gardner mens you one through the air,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. James Robinson had a decent day
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: of work. G J. Chark is a difference maker. Nine targets,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: eight catches, ninety five yards and two really nice touchdowns
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: in that game. The toe tap of the toe drag
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I guess the first one, and then took it away
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: from the defender on the second one late. Um. So
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: there's some good things offensively. I think that's that's one
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: thing to build upon here, Pete, is that you do
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: have some some weapons on the offensive side, and it
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: can be fun to watch offensively at time. Yeah, but
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: the biggest news in the day is Tad Dickman can
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: keep his GMG dreams. Jack war Director, I mean, my gosh, Um, yeah,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: offense has some good players on it, and they're young players,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: but they're good. They're entertaining. How many teams would like
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: to have chin Alton Chark as receivers on their roster
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: right now? A lot of them, all of them right.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Every team in the league would take Shark and on
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: their roster right now as receivers. They are producing him
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: and play every one of them would take them both. Yeah,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: for good players. The question is is one of one
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: because either one of them are one. I think, Um,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I think DJ has a chance to be a true one.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: He's a true one right the second not yet, but
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: he's like he's borderline. He's a good player. He's a
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: good player, and and borderline is is right, and Chal
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: is gonna be a really good player. He's gonna be. Yeah,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: but he might be one of those guys who catches
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: seventy passes every year. Physical, tough, you know, averages ten
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: eleven yards twelve yards to catch, never gonna go four
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: keen to catch. I don't think. I don't think he's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: that guy, do you. Um it's too early. I mean,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: after after the rookie year of d J Chark, he
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: said he's gonna be a great gunner for his career,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: do anything. And so I think receivers always take a
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: little bit of time. And I think where Lavisca is
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: right now is pretty promising. So I don't know what
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: he'll end up being, but I think he's gonna be
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: a good player. Receivers aren't the problem on this team.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: But no, no, no, In fact, the offense really isn't.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: It's not. The defense is the big issue right now, certainly. Um,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: but let's just let me as this. If if the
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: opt outs didn't happen and Gunter isn't sick, and they
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: have the same team they put together before the season,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: are they that much better? No, because they still wouldn't
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: be able the rest of the pass or I don't
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: think maybe Guntra adds a little bit on the inside. Um,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean they'd be better, Pete, But how
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: much better? It's hard to say because I just don't
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: like everyone everyone had opted out. I agree, But okay,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: but we're already were four games in now and spend
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: it forward, you'd say, okay, well what do you gotta
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: get for this defense? Now? And you say, oh god,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: they're lackey. Well they have two first round pass proctors.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Well they eat at the corner. They had a first
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  Speaker 1: round corner. And so so going forward, what do you
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  Speaker 1: do if you have you got to fix the defense.
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  Speaker 1: So what are you going to try and do well?
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny to bring that up, Pete. And this
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  Speaker 1: when Kim Law from South Carolina was on the board
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  Speaker 1: and you picked, and I just think you don't pass
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  Speaker 1: up on big people. You just cannot pass up on
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  Speaker 1: big people who are talented in this league because affecting,
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  Speaker 1: stopping the run and affecting the quarterback is more important
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  Speaker 1: than anything else. Because I mean you look at last year,
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  Speaker 1: Um they are the Super Bowl. What made that defense?
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  Speaker 1: a great Seattle The great Seattle defense is what made
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  Speaker 1: to have big people who can affect the quarterback. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking another I mean, but go tell me the
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  Speaker 1: great secondary for the forty Niners last year and everyone
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  Speaker 1: will say Richard Sherman was an All Pro. Richard Sherman
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  Speaker 1: was All Pro because he had he knew he had
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  Speaker 1: that front four and he's one of the smartest people
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  Speaker 1: in the world. Playing corner. He can't run anymore, no,
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  Speaker 1: and he and but he he knew how to play
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  Speaker 1: based on how much time that quarterback was gonna have
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  Speaker 1: it not and he was really smart. Look at the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles rotate eight guys in. They blasted Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 1: last week, they got after bullings. Yet last night they
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  Speaker 1: can rush the quarterback from the interior with Sletcher clock
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  Speaker 1: even Malik Jackson's rushed in the quarterback. They have guys
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: that can rotate in. This team can't rush the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And that why it was. It was interesting to me
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  Speaker 1: that they didn't go big last year. One of the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: hands some guys on the board. And but if Derrek
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Brown had felt to him, I think they would have
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: gone big. And by the way, yesterday, from what I
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: saw in that game, he was throwing dudes around. How
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: was how was the kid from South Carolina? Not great
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: but solid but not great, not dominant? Alright, guys, let's
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  Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour continues.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Vasselli Jaguars fall in
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati yesterday five. The Jacks are now one and four.
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  Speaker 1: They brought three straight. They'll face the Houston Texans a Sunday,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: who just fired their head coach and G M. Phill
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: O'Brien is out today. Romeo Cornell apparently will be the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: interim head coach at least as the odds on favorite,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: and we'll see him. They're now being run by the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: former Jaguars in checker. It's amazing, It really is amazing.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask Dan Edwards and those guys that they
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  Speaker 1: remember because two thousand and four I wasn't covering the
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  Speaker 1: team anymore. I was doing the national stuff by then. Well,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: I I used to know most of the people in
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: that building even then, I don't remember him. J P.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't around at two thousand and four. No, I wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: I was in college. I just finished college. But Sally
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: has been around forever. You don't remember him at all, Tony,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I was, I was, wasn't living here, and that's that
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  Speaker 1: was a part of my three year or two and
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: a half year hiatus from Jacksonville. Where were you then
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  Speaker 1: in Houston? I was in there. Two years in Houston
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, two years I was in Houston. Four
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't remember him so apart. I'm
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: not holding my breath. Sally and Tad Dickman and Pete
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Frisco all in the same selection. Marty Hernie runs the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers as a former sportswriter. Let's not forget that he
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  Speaker 1: was a beat guy flick cover in the Washington Redskins
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: back in the day in the newspaper. Let's get to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: some social questions today and number one, Sam, I am
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: sheer thirteen after yesterday's game, I'm pretty depressed. Can either
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: of you give us any reasons to be excited? Help us?
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. You have a very nice young running back
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  Speaker 1: that you found off, you know, undrafted, UM some great
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: value there, and I think he's the real deal. I
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  Speaker 1: think Dj Chark is a is any potential number one guy?
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  Speaker 1: And if if he's not number one receiver type today.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: He's right on the custom of being that. He's a
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: really good player, and you have an offensive line that's
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: fun playing good football. So there's what you can be
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: positive about. I agree. I think there's young players Robinson,
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  Speaker 1: the two receivers, Miles Jack's Sun and Miles Jack and
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: I think got he got the two the two pass rushers. Look,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: every team in the league would take the two pass ruggers.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, there there are building blocks
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  Speaker 1: in place as far as the rest of this season,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: you know what, I think? Thank you for Trevor. That
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: brings us to our next question, a segue from Waco
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Guarina in Argentina. Is there any chance to save the season? Peter?
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  Speaker 1: Do we need to start thinking about Trevor? Is the
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: defensive players problem or is it wash Saluto's day? Argentina? Wow?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: I like the I like the question from Argentina, and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: being from Argentina, he knows what good steak is, right,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: the best steak comes from Argentina. Supposed I've heard that, yes,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: and so there's a difference between tough steak and the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: best steak. The best steak plays at Clemson he's the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: quarterback at Clemson. If you can get that guy, you
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: get him and whatever happens the rest of the season.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Come on, there's gonna be no playoffs. This's white Tony's
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: proclamation of eleven wins. They're not winning. They're not even
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: coming close to being in the conversation to be a
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: playoff even with the added playoff team. So start thinking
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: about getting Trevor Larns and what it would do for
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: a the franchise, be the city. Come on, Michael Talent
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Here's my question. Who should start thinking of
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: this in the organization? Well, couldn't time out too. I
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: don't want to be like the team. There's this team
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: up in um New York that might be the worst
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: team you know in a long long time, called the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: New York Jets. And do you see them winning a
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: game this year? They might win one? They might. So
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: if you win one and they win not, I mean
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: you win no more and they win one or two,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: you get the first pick. Okay, but you really don't
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: think this team will win another game all year. Let
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: me ask you this, if you didn't have the first
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: pick and you ended up with a guy like Justin Herbert,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: you'd be happy with that. Have you seen him play?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: He's good, So there's maybe Justin Fields is the guy.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: I have not watched one snap of Justin Field's play football.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: He was good last year. He was good last year.
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  Speaker 1: To be interested to see what he does this year.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: He was good. You know that. The key other kid,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: the Trey Lance kid. I mean everybody's he didn't even
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: play that well the other day in his game. I
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: didn't think he's got along, but he's intriguing. But those
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: are the two guys. So you get, I mean you
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: gotta get. You gotta get the franchise quarterback. That solves
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  Speaker 1: it all. It solves that. If you have that position, JP,
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  Speaker 1: you solve it all. The STI Bengals have solved it.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: They will be a factor starting next year for the
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: next decade or so if he stays healthy, like Tony said,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: because they've solved it alright. Our next question from at
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Brandon Bush Pete, I love you, but can you give
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Minsheu time to develop? Compare him and Breeze through their
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: first two years and come back to me. He was developing,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: just not the pace you want. You're biased based on
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: draft selection and athleticism, give him time. I'm not a
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: bias based on draft selection because I that matters nothing. Um,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I'm biased based on my eyes, and what that my
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: eyes tell me is he's a good, solid quarterback who's
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: never going to be the guy that makes the team sustainable.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: And then we've seen many of these guys. What was
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: it last week, Tony Ryan Fitzpatrick was one you comparative
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: to or somebody compared him too. There are a million
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: of those guys, and that's not what you want. You
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: want generational. If you get generational and you look, um,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, I think, is that way, Um John Elway
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: was back in the day. If you get that, you
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: know Peyton Manning and granted Darren a lot of them.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: But there is one next year's trash. So if you
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: can get that guy, you try, and I mean you're
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: not gonna try and lose games, but you're not really
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: so much worried about this year as you are about
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: you is not long I don't personally think right now
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: now he could change my mind right now. If you
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: ask me, I'd say he's not the long term answer. Well,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. Let's not forget the back then the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: Standing and Charges actually drafted Philip Rivers because they didn't
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: think Drew Brees was the guy, which is interesting, Um,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: and Philip represented up being a preto quarterback himself, not
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: as good as Drew Breese. But I also argue that
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees went to a much better coach and Sean
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Payton one of the great coaches as well. In the
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: combination that too kind of worked pretty well together. UM, Listen,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: you don't have to make a decision about Minshi right now.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's killing him. Um by name means,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: and he's not a chance to prove, you know, prove
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: it out, to play it out and see what happens
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: and to you know, see where what decision you make.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: But here's one thing. If you end up going winning
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: two games, one game, four games, whatever, it is, that
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: that is also part of the quarterback because great quarterbacks,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks, I mean rarely have seasons like that because
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: they make everyone else around them better. And I'm not
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: trying to put undue pressure on Minshew because that's not
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: fair to him. And I don't think he's the problem,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: like what we've talked about. And but the question is
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: at the end of the year that you're gonna have
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: to answer, is he the guy? Because this team in
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: the last eight years, or let's called the last six years,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: has passed on several franchise quarterbacks that they're at the
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: top of their at the top, you know, near the
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: top of the league, some of the best players in
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: the league. So if we project the stats out for
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: the season right now, right object them out JP, let's see.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Let's because it's exactly what we've talked about in the
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: in the theory for two touchdown six team picks. Okay,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: and we said that before the season, if he had
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: yards and thirty two touchdown passes, it would be a
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: tough decision because we thought they might be good. If
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: that's the case, well, so far those are the projected numbers,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: and it's not a tough decision. I don't think if
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: they're picking number one, you take the guy, and if
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: you're picking number two, you might take fields too. You
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: just have to. I don't think. I don't look. He
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: could love the guy all you want for the way
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: he acts and the way he plays and just fun
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: to watch and everything else. But the reality is, and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: yesterday is the perfect microcosm of the entire argument. Joe
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Burrow is the franchise guy, the sustainable guy, the long
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: term answer. You still question whether Minshew is. And yet
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: Minshew through for more numbers and had a better yards
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: numbers than than than Burrow did yesterday. If are you
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be careful of stats? Right? Right? And if the
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: defense is is just a hair better, they might win
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: two more of these games. And they're three and one, right,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they if they beat Tennessee in Cincinnati
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: their three and one, and again, okay, if they lose
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: the Indianapolis their own four, and it also goes back
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: to the indian I mean in two thousand and seventeen argument,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: they weren't sustainable. It was not sustainable. It just wasn't.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: And in Tennessee might find this out the hard way.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Too sustainable with Thry and Tanni Hill because he's played
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: well and he played well last year, But is that sustainable?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I think it is. I think Tanny Hill. But Tanny
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Hill showed you, Uh, he had a year Miami before
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: he got hurt. He was really good and he had
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: five different offense, four different five different offenses five years
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So yeah, I look he might be, but
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: I still there are certain guys. Okay, with Joe Burrow,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: you know it's sustainable, you know it's going to be
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: I think with Justin Herbert, I mean, I'll tell you what, Tony,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: I've watched all his games that can make some throws
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: and some plays that you can't teach that you just
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: can't Our next question we go to Zurich, Switzerland. Apparently
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• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: I ever watched? Jags Dolphins playoff game? That's a that's
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: a that's a pretty high bar to start with. I
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: think is he basically asking why did I become in
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Jacks fan? At this point, that's the question they were
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: all going to be like. That still still one of
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: the most dominating performances I've ever seen. And the amazing
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: thing about it is Sally wasn't a part of it.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: That's right. You didn't play in that game. That's right
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  Speaker 1: Be careful what you say. They're better. They're not. They're better,
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  Speaker 1: they're better. Stop it. They're better. I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 1: I pin him down. He answered the question over the
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  Speaker 1: Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony was Sully Pete. What do you
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  Speaker 1: do on your birthday? Do you? How do you celebrate?
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  Speaker 1: I want? We had a party on Friday at the bar.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun. The only problem JP bars in South
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  Speaker 1: Pete being sixties, it's amazing. What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing, No, it was. It was unreal. Even afterwards
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  Speaker 1: I mean happy birthday. Though I've totally wept in the
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  Speaker 1: first hour. I'm excited for you. No, you're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: do anything tonight on the actual day, Like, what do
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  Speaker 1: you mean, what do you I'm working? Yeah, yeah, I'm working. Well, good,
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  Speaker 1: that's positive. It was a little happy birthday. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: to two games tonight. You got two games tonight, Jake
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  Speaker 1: double and we'll get to those coming up. Does that
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  Speaker 1: mean later on you're gonna do it twice then? Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: one of them is on CBS though, so we might
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  Speaker 1: Defense is pretty darn good. There and the Titans had
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  Speaker 1: start to the week. Pete in Tennessee to see if
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  Speaker 1: this week. UM. I'm trying to stay out of the
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  Speaker 1: COVID freak for for after I got to do it
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter on Saturday for a tweet I sent out
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  Speaker 1: which was totally misunderstood by a lot of people. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I never responded. I blocked about five thousand people on
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  Speaker 1: I'm not thinking it. You don't like it. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: And all I said was something I said on the
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  Speaker 1: before the season. They prepared for this scenario and they
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  Speaker 1: were going to treat it like an injury based on
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they span of the practice squads if
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't a total outbreak, and what you do you
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  Speaker 1: And so everybody, oh, you can't spread ankle, you know, strange,
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  Speaker 1: you can't spread torn a c l S. And so
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  Speaker 1: they all went in on me, and it's it's just
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's an incestuous um media propaganda where they
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  Speaker 1: all go in and they all say the same exact thing.
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  Speaker 1: I I must have had media members come at me
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  Speaker 1: So are you proposing we don't do social questions. We
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: could do social questions. That's fine, It's just Tony knows
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  Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. JP. I'm sure you've got
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  Speaker 1: as much as it's a piling it's a piling on
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  Speaker 1: up some controversy on Twitter, Pete, what do you got
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  Speaker 1: for us? I would go Colts one, Titans too. Can
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  Speaker 1: Texans rowing four and fired their coach? No, you can't,
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  Speaker 1: you can't. You have to pick all right, I'll put
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  Speaker 1: Wards And how do you can't do that? I can't
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  Speaker 1: do it. I just did it. I'm going. I'm different.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going Titans is still the best team. I think
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  Speaker 1: if if the Titans played the Colts, I'm picking the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: Defense is actually playing now. They haven't played anybody off factively,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: but they're playing good football. Yeah. Did you see him
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  Speaker 1: against us? Yeah, but they're gonna go, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour continues. If he shattered with Pete Prisco and
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  Speaker 1: Tony was selly, Glad you're along with us heading into
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  Speaker 1: week five, that Jack's face. The Houston Texans Sunday at
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  Speaker 1: NRG Stadium in Houston, and the Texans fire their head
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  Speaker 1: coaching GM today. Bill O'Brien is out as of about
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  Speaker 1: fifth the minutes ago. Apparently Romeo Cornell is the most
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  Speaker 1: likely scenario to be the interim head coach the Jags
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  Speaker 1: at one and three. They dropped three straight after winning
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  Speaker 1: the opener, trying to get back on track this week.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League and start off
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  Speaker 1: with news this afternoon, the NFL has put out a
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  Speaker 1: memo to all teams owners, GMS, football representatives and saying
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  Speaker 1: that causing schedule adjustments could result in forfeiture of games.
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  Speaker 1: All thirty two clubs got the memo today, the NFL
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  Speaker 1: threatening forfeiture of games if a team cannot participate due
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  Speaker 1: to COVID nineteen spread coming as a result of not
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  Speaker 1: following protocol. So uh kind of you know, earlier it
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  Speaker 1: was a fines and a forfeiture of draft picks. Now
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  Speaker 1: that's obviously much more good luck good luck on that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, like I have no earthly idea where
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  Speaker 1: I got in zero none, no idea. So how could they?
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  Speaker 1: How could they possibly know where the where a guy
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  Speaker 1: gets it from. No, I think it's not where they
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  Speaker 1: get it from. But if they find out that they're
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  Speaker 1: not wearing masks in the facility or whatever, if they're
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  Speaker 1: not falling the protocol, I think that's when they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get them. We're trying to get them. Think. Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you this. There's also a lot of
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  Speaker 1: springent rules about going out and being in a public setting. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So if a guy went out and wasn't not in
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  Speaker 1: the public set, in the public setting and got COVID,
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  Speaker 1: is that not following the protocol? And who did that
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  Speaker 1: fall Who did that fall off? Yeah? I don't know
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  Speaker 1: enough about all the protocols and the details around them
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  Speaker 1: and how you know what they're talking about there, But
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that's one of those things that
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  Speaker 1: is kind of like, let's threaten you just to let
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  Speaker 1: you know we're serious, but they're not gonna's not good
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  Speaker 1: to all. Right, let's to the games from yesterday. Teddy
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  Speaker 1: Bridgewater had a couple of touchdown passes and one on
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  Speaker 1: the ground an impressive run for a touchdown by the way.
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  Speaker 1: The Panthers knocked off the Cardinals one isn't it funny
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  Speaker 1: how quickly the Cardinals outlook is turned. They beat the
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  Speaker 1: Niners on the road, they open the season, they go
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  Speaker 1: to two and oh, then they lose the Lions and
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers, and all of a sudden they're reeling. Um,
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  Speaker 1: give the Panthers credit, and I'm gonna give Matt Rule credit.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think this defense would be that good. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They have talk about the defense that's loaded with young talent.
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  Speaker 1: That's one. But they're playing pretty well and offensively. Teddy
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  Speaker 1: Bridgewater had a nice day. So you have credited there
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  Speaker 1: two and two there in the division and no, no,
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  Speaker 1: Christie McCaffrey, right right. The Browns forty nine, the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight. The Cowboys defense stinks. The Browns ran for
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  Speaker 1: three hundred seven yards in the game. I want to
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  Speaker 1: take credit for the Browns and they must have listened
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  Speaker 1: to me when I called the game on Thursday night.
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  Speaker 1: I told the keys of that game was to stop
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  Speaker 1: acting like Baker Mayfield was the key to that offense
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  Speaker 1: and the receivers. The key to that offense is that
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  Speaker 1: offensive line in the running game. And as soon as
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  Speaker 1: they figured that out and started focusing on it, now
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  Speaker 1: Nick Chubb got hurt and I don't know how serious,
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  Speaker 1: and they announce six weeks six weeks week so, but
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  Speaker 1: they got karnam Hunt, and they got a really good
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, and Bill Coway has a really good offensive
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  Speaker 1: line coach. That team runs through. That team needs to
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  Speaker 1: go through the running game and the offensive line and
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  Speaker 1: limit what Baker Mayfield has to do day. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: they the kid that came in off the bench was
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  Speaker 1: a guy that was in that old XFL or whatever
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  Speaker 1: and he ran for about eight yards. He's a kid
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  Speaker 1: from Amacoli up the road ed you and James's hometown
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  Speaker 1: in high school. So look, you can find running backs
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  Speaker 1: and hasn't that been proving out all season long? Look
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  Speaker 1: at James Robins. But but you agree, it's not Baker
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  Speaker 1: Mayfield's team, He's not. They gotta run the ball, and
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Stevanski smarted up, by the way, he's done a
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  Speaker 1: really good job. Agreed. The Saints over the Lion thirty
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  Speaker 1: five nine. The Lions blew a two touchdown lead in
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  Speaker 1: this game. Is patrician again again again again, see in
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  Speaker 1: trouble defense thinks, I mean the defense is bad, it's awful,
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  Speaker 1: it's another defense. Stop anybody, he's a deer in the coach.
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  Speaker 1: By the way they fired, didn't called well when he
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  Speaker 1: had a much better record than what map Patricians had
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  Speaker 1: the same period of time, Patricians getting fired at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year before maybe before. The Seahawks are
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  Speaker 1: now four and oh and they knocked off the Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: thirty one twenty three. Fitzpatrick threw a couple of picks
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  Speaker 1: in that game for Miami. Yeah, and the gaudy that
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  Speaker 1: Wilson's gaudy numbers were in his gaudy. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't as good, but when he had to be, he was.
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  Speaker 1: He threw a bad end zone interception. Their defense isn't
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  Speaker 1: good either. By the way they're gonna he's gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to throw gift the couch downpath. Who has a good
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  Speaker 1: Nobody Nobody Dealer's defense is pretty good. Ravens isn't bad either. No,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, you played Patrick Mahome. Yeah that doesn't count.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody looks bad against Patrick Mahomes. The Buccaneers and the
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  Speaker 1: Chargers had a dual Bucks win thirty one or one.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady threw five touchdown passes. I guess he's still good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the story that came Pete seven thirty seconds left and
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  Speaker 1: a half and for some unknown reason, Anthony Lynda doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have him taken knee, go to the half of the
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  Speaker 1: lead and they fumble a handoff. Yeah, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know when that changed. That that changed the entire game
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  Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, the moments side inside the tennant,
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  Speaker 1: they only had one time out left the buck. There
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  Speaker 1: was no reason to take a knee and go in.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. It was like what I like that is
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  Speaker 1: that's directly on the head coach in question about it.
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  Speaker 1: What would be your questions if you were the beat
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  Speaker 1: writer for the Chargers asking Anthony Lynn after that, Anthony,
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  Speaker 1: because I never called him coach, you know that, I
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  Speaker 1: never called anybody coaching, Anthony. Why did you even bother
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  Speaker 1: handing off inside the pen at the end they half
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  Speaker 1: when they only had one time out? If they had
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  Speaker 1: three time out you could understand almost right, Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's only it's just like last night at the end
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the half in the Eagles game,
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  Speaker 1: Eagles had two time outs, why didn't they call him?
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  Speaker 1: And he was a free kick free play at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the half, bear catch free kick. You get
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  Speaker 1: three points out of it. Just don't part Ravens. Gotta
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  Speaker 1: bounce back game from Lamar Jackson. They knocked off Washington
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  Speaker 1: seventeen two touchdown passes and one rushing for Lamar. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they played the Washington football team. He wasn't great again, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: he was not great throwing the ball. You know, No,
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  Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball isn't fantastic. That's that's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a problem. Rams seventeen, Giants nine. But the real show
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  Speaker 1: was after the game with Jalen Ramsey and Golden Take
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  Speaker 1: getting into a brawl on the field. W first punch
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  Speaker 1: that he started with the Take after Golden Day said,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what other players are saying as well. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the league come in and suspend jailing for a game.
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  Speaker 1: If that's the case, they'll look at it. And not
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  Speaker 1: only that, it's it's personal stuff. This isn't on the
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  Speaker 1: field stuff. You know, he was with Golden Tape sister, yeah, sister, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then he wasn't yeah, and then then he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: and apparently you listen, you can't do that. You can't
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  Speaker 1: be fighting on the field as the game. It's just
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  Speaker 1: there's no place for that at all. And there was
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  Speaker 1: a report today that Jalen tried to go outside the
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  Speaker 1: Giants locker room later as well for more and that
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  Speaker 1: obviously didn't happen. But um, you have it, that was
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  Speaker 1: the you think you'd be the one that was the
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  Speaker 1: angry guy. My guess is if you watch the TV,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of chirp, and my guess is Golden
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  Speaker 1: Price said a couple of things and jail on the
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  Speaker 1: field that instigated something. All right. The last couple of
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  Speaker 1: games here Bills over the Raiders thirty to twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen with a couple of touchdowns he ran for
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  Speaker 1: one of the Eagles held on to knockoff the forty
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  Speaker 1: niners and the Eagles are in first place, one two
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  Speaker 1: and one first place. Yeah, but you know, it's amazing
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  Speaker 1: about Carston Wentz when he has guys around them. These
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  Speaker 1: stinks when he has nobody to throw to with these
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  Speaker 1: no names to think of all the scrappy babe. He
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  Speaker 1: plays well. And by the way, Josh Allen is a
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  Speaker 1: legitimate MVP canidate. Legitimate mp MVP candidate, you agreet Tony.
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  Speaker 1: He's as behind Russell Wilson and Pat Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: not yet, He's not behind. He's behind Wilson right now.
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  Speaker 1: But I think if you ranked him right now, the
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  Speaker 1: Wilson one Alan to Mahomes three, Roger maybe Rogers three,
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes four. Time for Monday Night football. It's a COVID
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  Speaker 1: nineteen induced doubleheader, including the Columbia broadcast system. First at
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  Speaker 1: seven o five, the New England Patriots will be without
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  Speaker 1: the COVID positive Cam Newton. They arrived in Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: today to face the high flying offense of the Chief
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  Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes. Who you got in the first game?
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  Speaker 1: Got come on, Brian Hoyer is his quarterback. I'm taking
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  Speaker 1: it in Patrick Mahomes. He will light that defense up.
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  Speaker 1: And I know everybody always says Belichier's got these all
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  Speaker 1: these great coverages and matchup people. You can't rush the path.
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  Speaker 1: You saw what Seattle did to him a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago. They're gonna light them up. I like the
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  Speaker 1: chiefs um I think that. I think the Patriots are
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  Speaker 1: gonna play COVID um induced, not induced COVID. Like just
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  Speaker 1: mad at COVID for taking the quarterback with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of excitement and energy and I think they played well,
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  Speaker 1: but Michelle, no, uh, Cam Newton, I think it's close.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's closer than anyone things you said they're
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  Speaker 1: going to bring the COVID energy. Is that we just
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  Speaker 1: said it didn't come out right there? Could you ever
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  Speaker 1: fly to a night game, a day or a game though, No.
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  Speaker 1: I drove on a bus in high school to one
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  Speaker 1: this morning, so that means they had to be there,
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  Speaker 1: probably at the facility at what six it's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot. They're asking a lot for the second game
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  Speaker 1: on Monday night, originally scheduled for eight fifty now moved
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  Speaker 1: to nine o'clock Eastern. The Atlanta Falcons can't hold onto
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  Speaker 1: a lead there. Oh and three the seats red hot
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  Speaker 1: for dan Quinn. The Falcons had to lambeau Field in
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  Speaker 1: green Bay, they're not so frozen tundra. At October they'll
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  Speaker 1: face the red hot green Bay Packers where Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 1: who you got, you know this is one that you know,
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  Speaker 1: like like your gut just says, go with Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 1: and green Bay because the Land has been one of
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  Speaker 1: those teams just you can't keep believed, just underperformed. But
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  Speaker 1: it gets I have a feeling. It's one of those
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  Speaker 1: nights where like they're talented, Matt Ryan, they get a
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  Speaker 1: going to shootout and they win like a forty five
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  Speaker 1: forty two games to save dan Quinn's job for one
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  Speaker 1: more week. So you're out of your mind with that defense.
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  Speaker 1: They're not sorry. They made Nick Foles look like a
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  Speaker 1: god last week at the fourth quarter. Stop it just
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  Speaker 1: stop it. No Aaron Rodgers, even without Davante Adams, and
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  Speaker 1: we don't know what that status is. He said he's out.
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  Speaker 1: He's definitely out. Okay, so he's out. Mor does Valves
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  Speaker 1: Gantling go go wild to Robert Ton, you know who
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  Speaker 1: has gone mad? He Happy Birthday, Pe, Happy Birthday. I
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