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The Great Awakening Map with 5D Awakening Consciousness Creator, Champ Parinya · Reclaiming Consciousness

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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breathwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
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SPEAKER_00: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
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SPEAKER_00: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
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SPEAKER_00: This podcast is an exploration of how so many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the matrix and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
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SPEAKER_00: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on this earth.
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SPEAKER_00: Get ready to go deep.
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SPEAKER_00: Now let's dive in.
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SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone, welcome back to the show.
1:03
SPEAKER_00: Wow, this week's episode is another doozy.
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SPEAKER_00: I have Champ Pirenia on the show, who is the creator of the Great Awakening map.
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SPEAKER_00: And his Instagram is 5DAwakening Consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: You probably already follow him because he has a huge following on Instagram and posts really amazing content about the Great Awakening.
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SPEAKER_00: And he also created this thing called the Great Awakening Map.
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SPEAKER_00: And you are gonna have to go download it before you listen to the episode so you can know kind of what we're referring to.
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SPEAKER_00: So if you go to his Instagram, 5D Awakening Consciousness, and click on the link tree in his profile, you can download the Great Awakening map so you can look at it while we're talking because we referenced it a few times in the episode and it's a really crazy thing.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: It's like this huge map that he basically channeled of all of these points of awakening consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: So all of these different things that you kind of learn about on your journey of awakening, and also even just looking at the map somehow awakens something in your consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: It's incredibly, incredibly powerful.
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SPEAKER_00: So this episode for me was even a huge energy shift.
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SPEAKER_00: Like right after we recorded this, I actually got really sick and had a huge energetic upgrade.
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SPEAKER_00: And I remember the day after we recorded it or that evening, I had some really crazy dreams and I could feel myself awakening into a new level of consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: So there's something about him that will activate you.
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SPEAKER_00: And this episode is going to be just incredibly activating and energy shifting for everybody that listens.
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SPEAKER_00: I can already feel it.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: So quick announcement we basically have only one or two spaces left for the retreat.
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SPEAKER_00: It might only even be one at this point.
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SPEAKER_00: So if you are interested in the retreat, please reach out to me.
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SPEAKER_00: It's August 25th through the 28th in the Catskill Mountains at this beautiful retreat center called Menla.
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SPEAKER_00: The pricing is amazing for what's included, you guys.
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SPEAKER_00: You get a one-on-one with me before the retreat, two group healing sessions with me, a group healing session with Andrea Donnelly, a group movement session with Dahlia Brown, a yoga class, a bonfire, a guided hike, all of your meals are included and there's a spa there.
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SPEAKER_00: It's going to be a life-changing experience.
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SPEAKER_00: So you can go on my website, elisebrees.com, to get all the details or reach out to me to make sure there is a space available.
3:45
SPEAKER_00: And that is pretty much all I have for you.
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SPEAKER_00: As always, if you are interested in working with me in any capacity, please reach out so I can figure out the best way for you to do that for you specifically.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm sending you guys so much love and enjoy the episode.
4:04
SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone, welcome back to the show.
4:06
SPEAKER_00: So I have a super special guest with me today, and I'm so excited.
4:11
SPEAKER_00: So today we have Champ Perinya with us.
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SPEAKER_00: And he is a hyper-dimensional artist.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it Dou Chen or Zhou Chen Yogi?
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SPEAKER_02: It's pronounced Zhou Chen.
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SPEAKER_00: Zhou Chen, that's what I thought.
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SPEAKER_00: Yogi currently living in Thailand, and he is the creator of the Great Awakening map, which we are talking about today and other things.
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SPEAKER_00: And he teaches Ascension Knowledge on Instagram.
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SPEAKER_00: You guys all have to follow him at 5DAwakening Consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: So, Champ, welcome to the show.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Elise, for having me on your podcast and for finding me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, of course.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: So I heard you on another podcast on the Matrix Assassins podcast.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh, that's somebody I should chat with and be friends with because we're totally on the same page.
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SPEAKER_02: So that was one of my favorite recordings with those girls because I got to go into psychedelics and hyperdimensional realms, which is one of my favorite topics.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my God, totally.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Me too.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I think you were on their podcast twice, right?
5:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So everyone should go listen to that too.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so on the first one, you you were talking about the Great Awakening map, and then um also about psychedelics and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: So I was like, I just have to have you on the show.
5:30
SPEAKER_00: So I'm so excited.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: There's so much I want to talk about.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but first, I I guess I would just love to hear from you a little bit of your story of like kind of your process of awakening and what that was like for you and how you got to where you are now.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so for the past four years, I've been living in Thailand and I've been practicing a form of meditation known as Zhouchchen.
5:55
SPEAKER_02: But before I came to Thailand, I was living in Los Angeles and Orange County my whole life.
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SPEAKER_02: So, rewind, 12 years back, I was living as a freelance graphic designer in Los Angeles and Orange County, California.
6:09
SPEAKER_02: And this is when I had a lot of time on my hands working at home.
6:13
SPEAKER_02: And I was just coming across consciousness knowledge for the first time in my life.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: And this is when I realized that consciousness was even a thing to study and to explore.
6:26
SPEAKER_02: I mean, before that, you know, I had no concept of the mind and consciousness and meditation and higher-dimensional realms and different states of consciousness.
6:36
SPEAKER_02: So when I came across this metaphysical world, this is what made me search deeper within for all the answers that I was looking for my whole life and how to spiritually heal myself was part of the process and the path that comes with you as you start to discover spiritual awakening.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: So throughout that entire decade, I was just learning more and more about the world that we live in and all the things that we should do and all the things that we should avoid to fully, as you can say, reclaim our consciousness from all the things that have been trying to take that away from us, all the distractions and all the unhealthy things physically and mentally that just drain us in this modern world.
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SPEAKER_02: And to try to finally see through it all and come to the truth on the other side of who you truly are, I think that is the most powerful thing that I was able to learn from that taking that first step of uh exploring consciousness.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: Was there something that led you to that?
7:42
SPEAKER_00: Like, because I know for a lot of people it's like, oh, well, I had an injury or I got really sick or this person died, or or were you just like naturally interested in learning about like spirituality and consciousness?
7:56
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
7:57
SPEAKER_02: Like everybody has their dark night of the soul, I think, which starts them on the path.
8:03
SPEAKER_02: And for myself, you could probably say that the physical aspect of what led me on this path of discovery was I had like this really bad facial acne problem, and I couldn't figure out how to heal it.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: And whatever I did, it would just get worse, and no medical treatment or anything like that could help me.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: So I was like desperate and depressed and trying to figure out what was wrong with my body and my life.
8:33
SPEAKER_02: And it was just such a like a physical, outer appearance type of thing.
8:39
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, in our modern world, looks and appearance and ego, you know, that's a big thing when you're living like in a place like California.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: So for myself, it was just something that was so difficult to deal with.
8:53
SPEAKER_02: And when I finally realized that no medical medicines could help me, that's when I started to explore holistic healing and meditation and organic food and eating properly.
9:07
SPEAKER_02: And then I started, you know, you come across all of these different types of researchers in this in this field that talk about consciousness and how to heal yourself spiritually, physically, emotionally, mentally.
9:19
SPEAKER_02: So this holistic healing aspect of my spiritual awakening was the catalyst to make me dig deeper and realize all of the corruption in the medical industry, how certain, you know, corporations are trying to not heal you so that they can make more money.
9:40
SPEAKER_02: And this just goes on and on and on and years and years of research.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: And you get a big picture view of reality and what's trying to get at you and what's actually trying to heal you.
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SPEAKER_02: So, this aspect to answer your question was what led me deeper and deeper into the world of spiritual healing.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: So, what did you discover?
10:03
SPEAKER_00: Because for me, like, and this is what I always say, because I take people through healing journeys, usually of trauma and stuff, but I truly believe that there is an emotional, energetic component behind every symptom.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: So, like, what did you discover about healing yourself or what was kind of like underneath of that?
10:25
SPEAKER_00: Like, was it a deeper level of healing within yourself that you needed to do to kind of move through that?
10:32
SPEAKER_02: It was sort of uh physical and also you could say esoteric.
10:38
SPEAKER_02: And there's a past life aspect to all healing.
10:41
SPEAKER_02: For example, who knows what type of karma I have may accrue in my past lives.
10:46
SPEAKER_02: That's one aspect of it.
10:48
SPEAKER_02: And then the present-day aspect of it is that I had to change my diet.
10:53
SPEAKER_02: I had to change the way that I think about myself and the world and other people, and things such as like reducing stress and changing my environment.
11:05
SPEAKER_02: Everything had to change in my life, including the soap that I used and the laundry detergent.
11:11
SPEAKER_02: It came down to like the type of foods that I would buy and even like the types of positions I would have to sleep in at night to make sure my face is not like rubbing against the pillow.
11:22
SPEAKER_02: Like if you have acne problems, you have to like do everything to try to like save your face.
11:28
SPEAKER_02: But then I realized you know it's an inner healing as well, it's a physical healing.
11:33
SPEAKER_02: So everything is part of the healing process.
11:36
SPEAKER_02: You have to consider I had a past life regression, I tried that, and I tried um all sorts of different foods and yoga.
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SPEAKER_02: I did it all, and I finally came to realize it just has to do mostly with my diet.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, obviously meditation was a big part of it, which healed me, healed me in so many other ways, more than physical.
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SPEAKER_02: So meditation was primary to the healing as well as diet, just for my my own symptoms.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm curious, was there a past life aspect to it that you discovered?
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SPEAKER_02: When I had a specific past life regression just to heal my acne, I sort of came across some past life events that may have led to it, but it didn't quite heal me in the way that I thought it would.
12:25
SPEAKER_02: And after that past life regression, I still had to be very cognizant of like the diet that I was involved in at that time of my life.
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SPEAKER_02: So there's a combination of many things that you have to consider when you're trying to heal yourself because you don't know how far back in your past lives that it is stemming from.
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SPEAKER_02: So for some people, a past life regression can heal you instantly.
12:49
SPEAKER_02: But for myself, it didn't heal me like 100%.
12:52
SPEAKER_02: So that's when you keep going on your spiritual quest to keep figuring out what it is that your body wants in this lifetime.
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SPEAKER_00: Totally.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: So then it sounds like you just had to completely become like a completely different version of yourself.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: For myself, it was a little bit more challenging than other people.
13:10
SPEAKER_02: You know, I love listening to like instant healing uh stories of people who go through like QHHT, for example, quantum healing hypnosis technique, uh, which is my favorite method of like instantaneously healing people.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: So that was one inspiration for me to like try to heal myself because so many people were instantly healing themselves of like cancers and like broken bones from like QHHT.
13:33
SPEAKER_02: So I was like, okay, maybe this can help me with my you know simple acne problem.
13:38
SPEAKER_02: But um I had to go deeper than that, and it's like it's just leading me more and more into like the spiritual path I'm supposed to be on.
13:46
SPEAKER_02: So the type of ailments that you have and symptoms that your body brings up in your lifetime, it's specifically leading you somewhere.
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SPEAKER_02: So I mean, it's obviously very unpleasant, but you have to realize that everything in the universe is put there to bring you somewhere.
14:02
SPEAKER_02: So if you trust that aspect, it's going to instantly heal you in a way that you could never have imagined.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I well, I totally agree.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: And I think that was, and it sounds like that's exactly what happened for you is it was literally just leading you down this path of exactly what you're supposed to be doing.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: It's just pushing me more and more to try to release that ego that I built up since I was like a baby, you know.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: And the more that release that ego, I think it's releasing more of this stress, this angst that has been with you your entire life, and you just don't know how to release it.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: Even though you think you do, you know, as the years go by, you you realize that you are still holding on to this identity aspect of yourself.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: And it can create physical ailments within you when you come across things that I guess you could say challenge that ego.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: The ego likes to be um, it doesn't like to have stress.
14:55
SPEAKER_02: So when you stress yourself out, your identity is being challenged.
14:59
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's when you start to have these physical ailments.
15:02
SPEAKER_02: You don't know where they come from, but it's usually like an emotional imbalance.
15:06
SPEAKER_02: And the ego is great at creating emotional imbalances secretly.
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SPEAKER_00: Totally, I totally agree.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: So then what kind of happened after that?
15:17
SPEAKER_00: So you started to go down this path, and then obviously you ended up in Thailand, but like how did that all come about?
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, because when I was a metaphysical researcher for all these years, my obsession was meditation because I realized that through meditation, certain aspects of our bodies would be revealed, like you know, supernatural abilities, such as to put it simply, like psychic abilities.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: Some people have telekinesis, some people have clairvoyance, some Tibetan monks they can fly or walk through cave walls.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: There's like very magical things that happen when you start to realize the path that meditation can take you.
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SPEAKER_02: And there's many types of meditations, obviously, in this world, but only a few of them will take you to the mystical, magical aspects of what the human body can actually do.
16:11
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, that's what really was like the carrot, you know, dangling for me on my spiritual path was all of these wonders of the human body that are hidden from us in our modern world.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: And taking back uh control of our consciousness means learning who we truly are and taking that path, being brave to take that path and trying to uh to be, you know, like an ascended being or just a better version of yourself.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: And for myself, that had to do with first healing some physical aspect about myself that you know nobody could help me with.
16:50
SPEAKER_02: And once you start to heal yourself physically, then you realize, okay, now I have to feel heal myself mentally, emotionally, and then spiritually.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: And once you put it all together, you start to realize that you have so much potential in your life to become something that you never thought was even possible.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: And even for myself now, as a Dzogchen yogi, I aspire to become just like the masters who could fly and put their hands through solid rock.
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SPEAKER_02: And at the moment of death, their bodies turn into pure light.
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SPEAKER_02: They have light body activation, is what we like to call it in physical terms.
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SPEAKER_02: So these Tibetan monks and yogis, when they activate their bodies of light, they are essentially able to transcend death in a way where their consciousness goes to higher realms, such as fear lands.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: And in these higher conscious realms, they can either stay there for eons, or they can come back to earth and help all beings, or they can emanate themselves as Buddhas.
17:59
SPEAKER_02: There's so many fascinating aspects of what consciousness can do when you study meditation and dharma and you really heal yourself, like truly heal yourself of all things that have been hanging on to your soul, your consciousness for eons, for past lives.
18:17
SPEAKER_02: So once you get rid of all of these things that have been creating karma for you, then you can truly have the body of light.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: And it's interesting because I have a very close friend who is like studied Buddhism really intensely.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: And so I know I know a little bit about, you know, just that aspect of things.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: And I completely agree with you.
18:38
SPEAKER_00: And I've been kind of going down this path too, of really understanding that not only are we capable of so much more, and consciousness is so much more than we actually understand, but like it's more than we even know, right?
18:54
SPEAKER_00: And I'm I'm starting to realize that more and more.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: But I and I'm curious to know from you too, like, because obviously the journey to get to these higher states of consciousness and access the higher realms is you have to heal, right?
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SPEAKER_00: As you were saying.
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SPEAKER_00: So for you, other than I know meditation was super healing for you, but was there anything else that was kind of like pivotal in your journey of like healing the deeper emotional and spiritual aspects that you needed to heal?
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SPEAKER_02: Before I was interested in Dzogchen and even Buddhism, you know, I was obsessed with all of the mystical aspects of the spiritual awakening community.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: So when I started to learn about the third eye, our pineal gland, I started to make an effort to like astral travel at night or have lucid dreams.
19:45
SPEAKER_02: And that was very difficult, you know.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you wouldn't have an astral travel experience for like months.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: And then one night you like separate from your body and you're and you can see yourself below you as your consciousness leaves the body.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, even that was it's it's like a slippery thing because it's very hard to do, and then even when you do it, it's really hard to bring back anything that can change your life.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: So one of the most powerful ways of experiencing what the third eye is was experimenting with plant medicines such as psychedelics and mushrooms and DMT.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: So these were my favorite psychedelics that actually would temporarily, you know, open your third eye for a few hours of the night.
20:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: And this is what really was like all the way, you know, like I'm all in.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: There's like no, no turning back.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: Once you see these higher realms with your third eye temporarily opened, and you get that temporarily, you get shown what enlightenment could be.
20:47
SPEAKER_02: And you're you're shown this healing, loving aspect of your heart and your mind that you've never experienced and you could never have ever imagined.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: So it was so happy and beautiful and and blissful, and everything that you could say that that would complement this experience.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: These milestones of my life were what showed me, it basically said, like, don't give up.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: There's just so much more for you if you just keep going.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: And we were talking about the third eye.
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SPEAKER_02: So I mean, the third eye, studying this and researching it, and finally getting a glimpse of what it means to like have the third eye open.
21:22
SPEAKER_02: These are the things that just inspired me to keep going and keep finding more things that were uh hidden about myself and our world, our reality.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: I relate to that so much.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Well, because first of all, I've always just been super interested and kind of driven almost to like to whatever was hidden underneath the surface.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: Like I'm a Scorpio, and I just, you know, I could tell that what we were being shown as what the world was was not actually the truth.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: And I was always trying to dig and see like what was hidden.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: And um, I always say that I attribute.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: You, you know, my first spiritual experiences to mushrooms.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: Cause that was like, you know, in my late teens, early 20s, that was my first experience, like you said, of what enlightenment could be and the other realms.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: And when I was in my early 20s, I had access to a lot of mushrooms.
22:19
SPEAKER_00: So I would do them like by myself all the time.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: And I had some really amazing experiences that I definitely attribute to the beginning of my spiritual path.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: So I totally relate to you on that.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not really smiling, really big right now.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: You can't see me though.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: I can't, but I can imagine.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: I can feel it.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: But I have to say, I have never done DMT, which you know, I heard you talk about a little bit on the other show that I heard you on.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: And that is really wild.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: And I know that's been like a big part of your process as well.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you had to compare mushrooms and DMT, I would just tell you that it's like mushrooms, but very intense.
23:06
SPEAKER_02: And it's only gonna last like three to five minutes max.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: Right.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: Like if you can compress, let's just say you took mushrooms for like 10 years, right?
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SPEAKER_02: A few times every year.
23:16
SPEAKER_02: If you compressed all of those hours of like data that you've observed from your visions, if you compressed it all into like three minutes, DMT is barely something like that.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: But um, it's not something that you're gonna miss out on if you don't do it.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you do mushrooms and you solve visions, that's already pretty profound as it is.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: And just from that, you could live your entire life and still, you know, have a very good spiritual awakening.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's funny too, because I feel like, especially in the last year or so, as I've really opened up to my psychic abilities and I'm communicating with other realms and all of that, like I kind of feel like I'm tripping all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, although I am open to like trying other plant medicine, it was just not something that came into my awareness until it was kind of later in life and like I'd already had my kids, and it wasn't something where I was like felt comfortable doing that when my kids are little.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: I think when my kids get a little older, I feel I want to like explore that again.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I totally feel you on that.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: And I loved hearing you talk about how that gives you access to the other realms.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: So I kind of want to move into the Great Awakening map.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: And first of all, there's so much information in there.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of it I do, I would say maybe like 75 to 80% of it I know about, like I've heard of.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: But I'm curious, first of all, how you got the idea to do that.
24:54
SPEAKER_00: And was it kind of a type of thing where you just started to like do all this research and have all this information and you wanted to put it somewhere?
25:03
SPEAKER_00: Or did you like do more digging to do that, if that makes sense of the question?
25:10
SPEAKER_01: I think you answered the question for me.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: Everything you said sounds good.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: But can you just like tell us about it?
25:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, tell us about the process and the whole thing and all of it because it's so fascinating.
25:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, you remember I was telling you, like, I was researching metaphysics for like so many years, like 10, 12 years, something like that.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: And as a designer and an artist, we're always up to trouble.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: And and we're always like, sometimes there's these projects that just never happen.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: And for myself, I was I was playing as a psychedelic artist for many years, and I was trying to show people the hyperdimensional realms that I saw on my profound psychedelic trips.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: And I wasn't having a type of dialogue that I wanted to because you know, I would go to art shows and show my show my photos that I would create, but like nobody was really understanding like what in the world I was seeing and trying to talk about.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: Talking about psychedelics is one thing, but then trying to like tie that into like meditation and chakras and third eyes and conspiracies and you know, the whole thing is just so difficult.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: So I was like, what am I doing?
26:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm wasting my time and I'm wasting my life.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: I have to try to share everything that I've learned because there's just so much information.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: And that's when I started my Instagram.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: And I was just posting like everything that I could think of, like from like ETs on the moon on and Mars to like balancing your chakras, whatever.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: I was just like posting memes of everything that appealed to me, you know, on my spiritual journey.
26:48
SPEAKER_02: And one day I just sat down and I was like, okay, universe, I need to make something that's going to awaken humanity as quickly as possible.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: So let's make something profound.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: And when I had a lot of psychedelic journeys, I would see like art pieces like in hyperspace, if that even makes sense.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: And these art pieces would be something that would be such a contrast to its environment that it was sitting within.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: So the Great Awakening map is sort of like this thing that exists in our time, but it just is just filled with so many, I guess you could say, um, it has so many directions pointing everywhere of like things in our reality that people don't know about.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:33
SPEAKER_02: And I wanted to make this meme that would just blow people's minds and show them like everything that they've been missing out on their whole life because they've just been so distracted by the all the trash in our culture.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: So I just put as many red pills and rabbit holes that I could into the map that appealed to me.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: And I made sure that these topics were topics that would enable somebody to change their entire life in a way that would lead them ultimately to like enlightenment.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the map doesn't fall short.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: It it literally is pointing people toward full enlightenment in one lifetime, if they so choose.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: So all of the topics that you see are designed to like bring you to the highest state of beingness.
28:18
SPEAKER_02: And there's dark topics on the map as well as light topics, and everything is designed to lead you and to push you to find the truths and to realize the truth and then become the truth.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: Wow, I love that.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: And okay, because first of all, I have it pulled up here because I just want to like look at it as we're talking about it.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: So there's so much on here.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, how long did it take you to get all of this stuff on here?
28:44
SPEAKER_02: All of these topics were just floating around in my head for years.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it only took me like a weekend to just lay it out and just start typing all of these topics down and literally fitting everything all in together typographically in a way that was my style and in a way that was sort of like this channeling that I was just open to the universe at that moment of my life.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: I was really just in that zone where I could design in that way.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Like I could never design the same thing today.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: It's been like three years or four years since I made that map.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: And every time I sit down and look at it, I know that it wasn't just all me designing it.
29:23
SPEAKER_02: There was some higher aspect of my higher self or whatever you want to call it that helped me create it.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: Because yeah, that's just how it is as an artist.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, you just create stuff all the time.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: And it just comes to you.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: And then there's people online who say, like, I wasn't the creator of it, it was like the CIA or something like that.
29:40
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like crazy because people just can't realize, like, it's just a simple artist creating an art piece, just like a musician creates a song, you know.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: And um, as a designer and artist, it's just kind of natural me to make something like this.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: So that's just the story that I have for it, for people who to deny that it's creator.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's really funny, and you know, obviously, there is this whole thing with a whole controlled opposition thing.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like people kind of take that to the extreme where they think like anything and everything is coming from the CIA or whatever or whoever, you know what I mean?
30:19
SPEAKER_02: So there's nothing on the map that tells you what to believe, it's just a list of words, and whether it makes you angry or whether you become enlightened, that's totally up to you and your spiritual path.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: So I made the map in that way where it would just create conversation and it would allow people to dig deeper.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: And in that aspect, it would reveal to them into their lives, like where they were on the spiritual path.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Somebody who looks at the map and doesn't know anything that shows them that they've been so distracted their whole life that they haven't even had the time to discover who they truly are or what they could be.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: So, my my main happiness is when people see the map and they discover something about themselves that makes them either makes them happier or makes them more, you know, healed in whatever aspect you want to think of healing.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: So I put the map out there to help people become enlightened in all the different levels that enlightenment entails.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
31:17
SPEAKER_00: So I have to tell you, I saw this.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: Somebody shared this with me maybe like a year and a half ago.
31:23
SPEAKER_00: So I saw it a while ago.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that it was from you.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: Somebody shared it with me.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: And the way that I kind of perceived it at that time was that this was more like a channeled.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: I didn't even kind of look at it as art.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: I kind of looked at it, not to say it's not art.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: I looked at it more as like this was like a channeled thing from like a higher dimension, um, which is kind of like the first thing that hit me about it, right?
31:49
SPEAKER_00: Because that sounds good.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: I like it.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, you can use that.
31:53
SPEAKER_00: You can tell people that.
31:55
SPEAKER_00: No, I I definitely that's how I felt about it.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Also, because there's so much information here, that also I feel like has an aspect to it where it's like feels like it kind of just came through.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: And for everyone who's listening who hasn't seen this, um, you can download it.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: If you go to Champ's Instagram, 5D Awakening Consciousness, you can download it from um his link in his bio.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: And there's so much on here.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: And okay, so I just want to ask you this first, and then I kind of want to talk about some of the things on here.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: So I know for me, I kind of relate to a lot of what you were saying about like spending years kind of researching consciousness and spirituality and what was really going on in the world.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: And I kind of started doing that in the early 2000s.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, when I kind of started to discover different like conspiracies and, you know, just really understanding more of what was actually happening.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: That was way before me.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, I probab I'm I might be older than you.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm 40.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: So this was like when I was like 19, 20 years old, is when I first had kind of like my first spiritual awakening.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: And I that was when I connected with the Pleiadians and I started and I read the book The Pleiadian Agenda by Barbara Hanclaut, which I don't know if you know that book, but a lot of it is like information about the Anunnaki and the reptilians and like just like the real origins of the planet.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I kind of started to go down this path, but I remember having this feeling at that time, I don't know what to do with this information, right?
33:36
SPEAKER_00: Like I have all this information and like I don't know how to like apply it to my life.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
33:43
SPEAKER_00: And I'm wondering if you ever had that feeling, like, because now I feel like once like 2020 hit and like COVID happened and all of that stuff happened.
33:53
SPEAKER_00: I felt like I had this renewed sense of like, okay, now I know how to apply all of this information that I have been collecting for all of this time.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: And I'm wondering if you ever felt that way where like you had all this information and you didn't know exactly like how to apply it or what to do with it.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: That is a very amazing thing that you're saying because I came to a point in my life before I discovered Dzogchen, it was like the culmination of all the knowledge I had gained.
34:23
SPEAKER_02: And I realized if I'm not going to do anything with this knowledge, I'm just going to die and it's just going to be lost.
34:29
SPEAKER_02: And I realized that if I truly want to study and become the body of light, then I need to practice Dzogchen because the Dzogchen masters are some of the most recorded people who have attained light body, and their teachings still exist today.
34:50
SPEAKER_02: And there are practitioners still attaining these higher states of being now.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: And I realized, okay, I have to really stop researching things that are just going to distract me and not bring me anywhere.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: And I'm going to have to focus all of my attention on studying Dzogchen.
35:10
SPEAKER_02: And at that point in my life, I found two Dzogchen lamas who lived in California.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: And I met them and then I began practice with them.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: So it's been four years now since I had my first introduction of Dzogchen and the meditation technique that these lamas were able to teach to me.
35:29
SPEAKER_02: So becoming a Dzogchen yogi means that I as much as I can, I try to live in solitude and I practice Buddhism and Dharma and Dzogchen as much as I can.
35:43
SPEAKER_02: And it's just going to be the next uh path of my life.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to do this all the way until the moment of death.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: Because once you become a Dzogchen practitioner, death is the test and life is the practice.
35:57
SPEAKER_02: So you practice your entire life for the moment of death, and this is when you are able to transcend all of the fear that is usually mixed in with death, and you can control where your consciousness leaves after your body ends.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: So I mean, this is just one aspect of Buddhism.
36:15
SPEAKER_02: I mean, not everybody is going to discover this path or even care about this path.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
36:21
SPEAKER_02: If you went like on the streets and just talked to people and told them, hey, do you want to activate your light body?
36:26
SPEAKER_02: Most people wouldn't even know what you're talking about.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:29
SPEAKER_02: So I mean, you and I are very lucky that we are even discussing the light body because just even discussing it means that we have the potential, you and I, to become these enlightened beings in our lifetime.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: And not only for ourselves, but to help all other beings attain enlightenment at the same time.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: So having this conversation with you is very auspicious because many people will discover for the first time things that they may not have even known, such as like third eye meditation, even spiritual healing.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, people don't even know what that entails.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: So I think that uh I'm not sure what we're talking about, but I think that it's very uh it's very fortunate that people can understand the the secrets that we're revealing on your show tonight about all the magical things in life.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: I resonate with what you were saying about like, you know, I've gotten to this place too where it's like, okay, I know what's really going on.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: I understand, you know, like a lot of the stuff like you have on the map of like what's really going on, like that hidden stuff.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: And now I'm like, okay, well, now I'm gonna focus my attention on what I'm creating.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to say in spite of that, but my own new earth reality that's I that I'm creating, it's much more powerful and potent for me to put my consciousness there versus all of this other information about what's really going on or what lies beneath the surface or all of that.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's really important to know.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Like you have to know that because you have to understand like what you're dealing with, right?
38:09
SPEAKER_00: And like what's really going on on the planet.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: But then, like once you learn that, then it's like, okay, I get the game that I'm playing here.
38:17
SPEAKER_00: And now, you know, as my mentor always says, now we outcreate it, right?
38:22
SPEAKER_00: Now you create something different.
38:24
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's similar to what you're kind of saying with with Zogchen, because now you're creating and getting to the points that you want to get to, but you kind of had to go through.
38:35
SPEAKER_00: Like, I feel like the Great Awakening map, like as I'm looking at it right now, I almost feel like it's a portal to awakening because like you have to kind of go through it, if that makes sense.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: There's so many topics that will that will push you into awakening.
38:50
SPEAKER_02: And even the darkest topics, I mean, you have to know what's going on in this world in order to help all beings.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:58
SPEAKER_02: There are a lot of Buddhists in this world who don't know the deepest, darkest secrets of our world.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know like how much they should know.
39:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're still helping all beings, but I think that you are able to help all beings even more if you truly know the truth of why things are and why certain atrocities happen in our world that aren't just random.
39:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
39:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally.
39:24
SPEAKER_02: Everything that you see on the map is leading you toward finding the truth of reality, which makes you want to realize the truth about yourself.
39:34
SPEAKER_02: And then you realize, okay, now I can heal myself and become these different aspects.
39:40
SPEAKER_02: You're basically discovering things about yourself that you didn't know before.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: And once you do that, you're gonna have more of an inspiration and inclination to help all beings.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: And that's the whole point of spiritually awakening, is that not only are you healing yourself, you're healing the entire world and the universe.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: And that's that's what I always say.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: Can you tell us a little bit about Zhogchen meditations?
40:06
SPEAKER_00: If for people, I'm guessing most people don't know what that is.
40:09
SPEAKER_02: Most meditation techniques that you will come across deal with the breath or they deal with um certain like body positions or certain techniques that you repeat over and over.
40:22
SPEAKER_02: Dzogchen meditation is a meditation of Buddhism, but it's not specifically for Buddhists.
40:29
SPEAKER_02: Everybody can practice it because what you're actually doing is you are realizing the true nature of your mind, the actual true self of who you truly are without the ego involved.
40:42
SPEAKER_02: Because the ego is always there, even during meditation, and it's saying things like, you could be doing something else right now.
40:48
SPEAKER_02: Why are you sitting here?
40:49
SPEAKER_02: You're just wasting time.
40:50
SPEAKER_02: Is this really working?
40:51
SPEAKER_02: Like, are you really gonna become enlightened?
40:54
SPEAKER_02: Like your ego is just talking to you the whole time when you're meditating.
40:58
SPEAKER_02: And even if you're a master meditator, you're still gonna have thoughts.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: But if you can start to see through those thoughts and realize these thoughts are just echoes, like they have no meaning.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: There's no way that you could actually grab these thoughts and make it into something solid and permanent.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: So why are you basing your whole life off of these illusory aspects of your mind that are just it's like monkeys talking, right?
41:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
41:24
SPEAKER_02: You can either believe it or just don't believe it.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: So to put it simply, you learn how to not believe your thoughts, and you don't care when you have good thoughts or bad thoughts.
41:36
SPEAKER_02: Everything is just one supreme smooth evenness.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: The more you practice, you you're gonna start to see reality as just this one equanimity.
41:45
SPEAKER_02: And this equanimity is known as wisdom or prajna.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: And the more that you meditate and the more you spend time in this state of constant equanimity, the more you're able to realize what reality really is and who you truly are, beyond the body, beyond the mind, and beyond all of your past lives that have made you who you are today.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: So Dzogchen is literally making you see yourself without the ego.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: And once you start to realize, and once you start to live in this equanimity, you start to become a Buddha because the Buddhas live in this equanimous mind.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: It's called the non-dual mind.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: Usually our minds are in a duality where it's constantly judging things as good or bad, one or zero, like and dislike.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: It's constantly doing this all throughout the day.
42:38
SPEAKER_02: It's a duality.
42:39
SPEAKER_02: So when you start to live in a non-dual mind, you start to not pay attention to all the times that your mind starts judging things and judging objects and liking and disliking everything, because that's what creates suffering in our life.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: That's what creates unsatisfactoriness.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: It's our minds constantly latching onto objects and labeling them as beautiful or ugly.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: So you can imagine if you extrapolate that throughout your all your past lives, how many times have you experienced uneasiness because you were judging something, right?
43:13
SPEAKER_02: So in in this life, Dzogchen allows you to finally just let all of it go and you just get to live in the pure natural state of the Buddha mind.
43:23
SPEAKER_02: And I encourage everybody to practice meditation because all meditations are actually trying to reveal this Buddha nature of the mind.
43:33
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, they're not going to label it as the Buddha mind.
43:36
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes they're just going to say, let's just bliss out on meditation, or let's just try to empty our thoughts.
43:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean, these are ways of pointing to the Buddha mind.
43:47
SPEAKER_02: But if you truly become a practitioner of Buddhist meditation, you'll start to realize that everything else in the world is just like a rebranding of the teachings of the enlightened.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: Buddhas of our past and meditation was their um their method of attaining what I was talking about, which is wisdom, enlightened wisdom, right?
44:09
SPEAKER_00: So I okay, so I have a question about this, and then I want to talk about some stuff on the Great Awakening map.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: But for me, you know, like I take people down this path of healing trauma.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: What would you say as far as meditation goes?
44:23
SPEAKER_00: Do you feel like there is certain levels of healing that has to be done before you can really get the full benefit of what you're talking about, like getting to the state of this Buddha mind?
44:38
SPEAKER_00: What would you say about the role of healing past life, ancestral, and familial trauma within this practice?
44:48
SPEAKER_02: Yes, that's a very deep question because it's going to be different for every single person.
44:53
SPEAKER_02: And it's going to depend on their karma from their life and their past lives.
44:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: So somebody who has, let's just say it's somebody who has pretty good karma, you know, they've done a lot of good deeds in their life and they're just naturally, you know, nice loving people on their path of spiritual healing, they are going to find people and they're going to find techniques much easier than somebody who is a very negative person.
45:18
SPEAKER_02: So somebody who is actively and heartfully seeking help, seeking healing, they're going to find different methods that will pertain to them in their life at a certain time.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: So for example, my course of healing was through, you know, changing the diet and then from past life regression and then to meditation.
45:40
SPEAKER_02: So like that was my path.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: But some other person, they may find some psychic healer, and that psychic healer is just going to instantly like heal them.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: It all depends on each person's individual karma and the spiritual circumstances that have led them to seek healing.
45:57
SPEAKER_02: So every person will be different.
45:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I completely agree.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: Like, because you know, I utilize the Akashic records a lot in my work.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: And what I really see for people too is I think that we all have like certain people that we're supposed to either activate with our energy so that they can reach a new level of healing, or other people are supposed to activate us with their energy so that we can reach a new level of healing.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: So it's almost like we have these like contracts with people that we're supposed to have an interaction with in our lifetime, whether it's like as a healing, you know, a client healer relationship or just like a friend relationship or something like that.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: So I agree with you.
46:41
SPEAKER_00: I feel like everybody is totally different and everybody has a completely different path to healing.
46:48
SPEAKER_00: But I was just curious your take on that through that lens, because I know that like it's not something that, not to say anybody couldn't do it, but I feel like it's the type of thing that comes to you when you are ready for it.
47:02
SPEAKER_02: Most people ask me, like, what's the best way to heal?
47:06
SPEAKER_02: And if it's not through past life regression, I will always encourage people to change their diet as soon as possible.
47:14
SPEAKER_02: Meaning, eat organic foods as much as possible.
47:17
SPEAKER_02: Try to eat, you know, healthy non-GMO foods and just eat what makes you happy and do it as best as you can and try to avoid all the unhealthy things that the list just goes on and on and on.
47:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: Because once you change your diet, your consciousness begins to expand and raise its vibration, and therefore you'll start to attract beneficial spiritual circumstances into your life.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I totally agree with you.
47:44
SPEAKER_00: I remember hearing you say too about smoothies.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like smoothies have always been a thing for me since I, you know, like I always talk about my first spiritual awakening, which was when I was 19.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: And that's also when I started to eat really healthy and I became a vegetarian and I started experimenting with like raw foods and fasting and everything.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: And I do feel like that was just kind of like a natural process of the awakening process was changing my diet 100%.
48:16
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I still drink smoothies every day.
48:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: And even today, traveling around Thailand, I still make the effort to like find smoothies.
48:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:26
SPEAKER_02: Or just blend as many nutritious fruits into one drink as possible because that gives you the biggest boost of nutrients you'll ever get.
48:34
SPEAKER_02: I mean, in one day.
48:35
SPEAKER_02: Most people won't even get these many nutrients in a week or a month living, you know, on a modern diet.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:40
SPEAKER_02: So once you put this love and the these nutrients into your mind and your body and your heart, you are attracting more into your life positively because your vibration is higher, you're attracting higher circumstances, higher timelines, and you are literally putting yourself into a higher state of being where you can attract more of what you want because you're matching a higher frequency timeline to your timeline now because your mind is in that higher frequency.
49:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: You're just attracting what you are, and that's what people have to realize.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: They're just like a tuning fork.
49:17
SPEAKER_03: Totally.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: And if your tuning fork is vibrating at a very pure, whatever frequency hertz from all the food you're eating, then you're gonna attract those types of people and events into your life, and things just keep getting better and better.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I totally agree with that.
49:34
SPEAKER_00: So I know we don't have a ton of time, but I'd love to just dive into the map a little bit.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: And I kind of want to like ask you what are like at least one or two things on here that really intrigue you or light you up, or that you love talking about, or that you find so fascinating or interesting.
49:51
SPEAKER_02: The three most fascinating things on the Great Awakening map are the secret space program.
49:57
SPEAKER_00: I knew you were gonna say that.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: Psychedelics, such as DMT and the Rainbow Body, the light body ascension.
50:06
SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's talk about the secret space program for a minute.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: Can you talk about that a little bit?
50:13
SPEAKER_02: If you explore government conspiracies to like the max, you'll start to realize that all of the governments in our world are controlled by a handful of aerospace corporations.
50:25
SPEAKER_02: And these aerospace corporations control all of the money in our world because these aerospace corporations they build secretly spaceships and space stations all throughout our solar system.
50:38
SPEAKER_02: And they already have access to anti-gravity technology.
50:43
SPEAKER_02: They've already been in contact with extraterrestrial beings all throughout our galaxy.
50:48
SPEAKER_02: And most of these uh aerospace corporations, they have a negative agenda.
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SPEAKER_02: So they're they could be uh labeled as bad guys who are just uh using all of the Earth's resources and money to create these secret breakaway civilizations off a planet where they do who knows what they do, but they build and build and build and they create all of these uh bases throughout our solar system.
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SPEAKER_02: And they have ships that can go anywhere because they are using a free energy device that is able to help them instantaneously travel throughout space.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: So if you study the secret space program, you'll start to realize how much of our governments are being manipulated by these institutions that that nobody even knows about.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've studied it.
51:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all money leads to these corporations in space.
51:44
SPEAKER_02: And even the world religions support these agendas.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: And it's amazing the types of ETs that they encounter and the type of worlds that exist out there that are just so unbeknownst to the average person.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's it's interesting too to me, because you know, like people like you and I that like we just are like, yeah, this is a thing, right?
52:05
SPEAKER_00: But I don't understand how people can think that we don't have any communication with other planets in our galaxy, or there's no extraterrestrials.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, if you really stopped and thought about it, it's kind of obvious like that it's not really the case that we're just like here on this planet and we don't know anything about what's going on outside of our planet.
52:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, that just doesn't even make sense.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: There's like two types of people in this world.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: And there's the type of people who look up at the stars at night, and then there's the type of people who watch TV at night.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: And obviously, you and I are those type of people who walk out at night and we just are in wonder at the beauty of the stars in this in the sky.
52:53
SPEAKER_02: And we are the type of people who research these types of topics because we care about it.
52:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
52:59
SPEAKER_02: And it really excites us because truth creates excitement, and we know when something is true just because of the sheer joy it brings to us when we study it.
53:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
53:09
SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, you can just go on and on for years and years studying the secret space program.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: But like we were talking about, if you just end up dying studying this, you're not gonna end up going into like the pure lands, okay?
53:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:22
SPEAKER_02: So you have to make a judgment, like, okay, how much of this spiritual knowledge am I integrating into my life?
53:28
SPEAKER_02: How much am I changing into a better person?
53:31
SPEAKER_02: Right.
53:31
SPEAKER_02: And for myself, you know, discovering the path of Buddhism was just so obvious to me.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: The communist there's so many aspects of Buddhism that people don't understand.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: They don't really understand what it's for, what it's doing, and what it really is is is a healing of your mind.
53:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
53:47
SPEAKER_02: And all the practices involved that were taught by the enlightened Buddha help your mind to become so pure that it's the Buddha mind.
53:56
SPEAKER_02: But the Buddha mind is something that we already have.
53:58
SPEAKER_02: You're just revealing your own Buddha mind without the ego being involved and making you just depressed your whole life.
54:05
SPEAKER_02: And once you discover your Buddha mind, then enlightenment is the possibility for yourself and all beings.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I know we don't have a ton of time, but can you just tell us about the rainbow body before we complete?
54:19
SPEAKER_02: When really high accomplished Buddhists, or you could say Dzogchen practitioners, because most of the rainbow body cases are from people who practice Dzogchen.
54:30
SPEAKER_02: Their bodies turn into rainbow light at the moment of death.
54:33
SPEAKER_02: Either their bodies will leave nothing behind, or sometimes like only hair and fingernails will be left behind, or like a very small, small miniaturized version of their bodies will be the only thing left behind.
54:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, there's many different versions of the rainbow body, but the most ultimate version is at the moment of death, somebody's body will vanish into pure rainbow light, and it will leave behind nothing.
54:59
SPEAKER_02: And rainbow lights will be seen throughout the sky and the village, and very auspicious supernatural things will occur, such as thunder, or sometimes flowers will just bloom.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: You'll have like very pleasant scents in the sky in the air.
55:16
SPEAKER_02: There's and people will have dreams or visions of the person who passed away.
55:21
SPEAKER_02: So there's so many supernatural things that occur that you can't even talk about during somebody's rainbow body activation.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: And that's why it's called rainbow body as opposed to just light body.
55:33
SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's like a whole other it's just so fascinating.
55:37
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I think that anybody who has an interest in this topic, I think that they have the type of karma that's necessary for them to begin practice to attain such a state.
55:50
SPEAKER_02: Or I mean, even if you don't attain rainbow body, just attaining enlightenment at death is the goal.
55:56
SPEAKER_02: The rainbow aspect of it, it just happens to be like a bonus.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: So enlightenment is the is the key, but sometimes the enlightenment is just so pure, the body turns into rainbow lights, and there's nothing left behind.
56:10
SPEAKER_02: You're basically just leaving behind all impurities, physically, spiritually, emotionally.
56:17
SPEAKER_02: You know, all your impurities are gone, and you just return back to the elemental lights.
56:20
SPEAKER_02: So that's what's happening, and that's what's seen from an ordinary being when they watch a master attain rainbow body, which is so fascinating and so sacred.
56:29
SPEAKER_02: There's nothing more sacred than this topic by far.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: And it's like something that's done completely consciously, right?
56:37
SPEAKER_00: It's like they're deciding to do that at that moment.
56:40
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Because most people at death aren't conscious and they're just in fear.
56:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:45
SPEAKER_02: And that fear pulls them down into like a real lower rebirth, or it pulls them into another life that they have no control over.
56:51
SPEAKER_02: Right.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, most of us were born into this life, probably unknowingly, but some of us chose to come back, you know.
56:58
SPEAKER_02: It's a very convoluted topic that can go on and on for like thousands of podcasts.
57:04
SPEAKER_02: So the whole point of discussing the rainbow body is to show that this is our truth, this is who we truly are.
57:12
SPEAKER_02: And whether you attain the light body or not, enlightenment is the whole point of seeking spiritual knowledge and going on this path is to liberate yourself from the mind that's not yours and to become, you know, fully who you are.
57:27
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
57:28
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't agree more.
57:29
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I think we could probably talk for hours about this, but I want to respect your time.
57:35
SPEAKER_00: And I know it's probably really late where you are too.
57:38
SPEAKER_00: So, can you share with everyone where they can find you?
57:42
SPEAKER_00: I think I said it a little bit, but if you can reiterate where people can find you and how they can get the great awakening map.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Thanks so much, Elise.
57:50
SPEAKER_02: They can find my work.
57:51
SPEAKER_02: We were discussing my Instagram, which is 5D Awakening Consciousness.
57:56
SPEAKER_02: And the Great Awakening Map can be found on its website, which is awakening5d.co.
58:05
SPEAKER_00: Cool, awesome.
58:06
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
58:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so for our last question for you, what is a non-negotiable when it comes to fully reclaiming your consciousness?
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SPEAKER_02: Meditation, because meditation will show you your true self.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: And then from your true self, you can make better decisions and you will start to attract so much more into your life that you could never have ever imagined.
58:32
SPEAKER_00: Wow, I love that.
58:34
SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much.
58:35
SPEAKER_00: This has been incredibly enlightening and inspiring for all.
58:40
SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much for being here.
58:42
SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for having me on your amazing podcast.
58:47
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58:49
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