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Seahawks Roster Down to 53: Who Made the Cut? · Sea Hawkers Podcast: for Seattle Seahawks fans

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Brandan: Hello, and welcome to the Sea Hawkers Podcast.
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I'm your host, Brandan Schulze, and I am joined by my good buddy Adam
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Emmert as we have some news today with the Seahawks roster being finalized
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kind of, but maybe not really, Adam.
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Adam: Yeah, it always changes a little bit, but, you know
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we're at the 70 now, as John likes to talk about it and the whole-
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Brandan: 53.
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Adam: No, no.
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He, he talks about it, he even said it in his press conference- Oh, the
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Brandan: s- okay 'cause the ready squad.
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Okay
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… Adam: that's right.
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He's like, "We don't like talking about our 53.
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It's our 70."
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And, we have an idea of where practice squad things might
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go here in the next day or so.
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They can't really get into that till tomorrow.
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But, you know, some interesting decisions made here when there
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was a good number of guys that you might look at and say on the bubble.
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And it's gonna be interesting to see if this is, you know, more or less what
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sticks for the remainder of the season or if it changes a little bit more from here.
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Brandan: You guys, Dad Golf in chat saying, "Ready squad assemble."
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I think that's gonna be the main thing over the next couple days of
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of what happens with the-… quote unquote ready squad, practice squad.
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Mo Barclay say on the ready or not squad.
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Like
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Adam: that, yeah.
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Brandan: a lot of folks…
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I, I think there is some areas where there might be some shock, and I think
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that one of the things that I think we can do is dispel some of the reasons
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why you should or should be not, shocked by, some of the moves
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that they decided to go with today.
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Because, you know, I, I think where most of the shock comes for folks is some
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of the, the more seasoned veterans that didn't make that initial 53-man roster.
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And I- we kind of hinted at it a little bit leading up to this 53 roster cut
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day of, you know, pointing out, okay, these are guys who are vested veterans.
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They could stick around.
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And, and I feel like a lot of those guys that ended up being on that cut list
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are guys who are also vested veterans, which means they can stick around.
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And then let…
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The, the risk of cutting a veteran player like, Trevon Diggs- Would be that
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another team could come along and say, "We're gonna guarantee your contract for
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the full season," and that might be, you know, for a, for a veteran player that
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might, be a better deal than, you know, being added to a practice squad and
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sticking around and, 'cause you're going to make less guaranteed money that way.
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Adam: Sure.
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And money's a giant motivator for a lot of dudes, no doubt about it.
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Look, Trevon Diggs has made some money in his career.
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Like, he got paid with the Cowboys, no doubt about it.
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And at this point in your career, maybe it makes more sense to you as
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a veteran player who's trying to get your career back on track to be like
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"Yeah, somebody could guarantee me the whole year, but I know my play's gonna
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get me on the 53 here at some point."
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And it's basically what John said in his presser here just
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in the last hour or so.
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And, just being in a good system with a good coach to put some good
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film out there, that's a great way to kinda resurrect your career and
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make even more money than maybe that guaranteed vet minimum for a year.
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Brandan: We've got Ryan911 in the chat joining us with a 999 super chat
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live executive producer saying, "The OGs, excited about the initial 53.
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Real football is just days away.
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Go Hawks."
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That's, that's the most exciting part about this, is this, this now feels
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like that point to where you go, "Okay, pre-season is now behind us.
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Now it's the regular season.
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We have the guys that we're gonna roll with," and yeah, it, it's gonna
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shift and change a little bit, but, really the, not a lot of guys…
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W- when I look at this list, I think the biggest news for me is there's, like, one
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guy who is on injured reserve, and it's a guy who was injured even before pre-season
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was started, and that's Zach Charbonnet.
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So the fact that we made it through with a lot of the guys that we were
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planning to have here, not a lot of guys lost in the pre-season.
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Big part of that is that Mike Macdonald didn't play anybody, that
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would, would've been the starting 22 pretty much during the pre-season.
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Adam: No, he definitely didn't, and they put Zach on the, the PUP list
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the physically una- unable to perform list, and makes sense, I mean, coming
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back from the ACL, so we won't see him till at least, what is that, week four?
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Is that-
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Brandan: they're out, yeah, for at least the first four weeks.
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Adam: Right.
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And then on injured re- reserve they did have Irv Charles, the special teamer.
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And- Right… that's somebody that, again, John spoke about in his
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presser in just how big of a deal he thinks it is to have, somebody
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like Irv Charles who can come back.
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And the way that John described him is, like, elite monster
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on special teams as a gunner
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Brandan: Well, you know, you need those gunners.
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Rick Darcy in chat, "To John Schneider can do anything he wants."
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You're more like that.
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I had to laugh that we drafted cornerback Andre Fuller from Toledo, who he
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cut, but we sent a six rounder to the Chargers for his Toledo cornerback
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partner, Avery Smith, who went undrafted.
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Adam: Right.
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Hey, look, you, especially these guys at the end of the draft
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undrafted guys, you know, a lot of them are lotto tickets, right?
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And so if you liked some of the things about Fuller, let's say if you're John
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Schneider, just with maybe some measurables or maybe an interview or
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whatever it was, and maybe the play on the field didn't quite pop as much
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as you thought, and then you hear John talk about what, Avery was able to
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do in San Die- San Diego, Los Angeles.
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and just what a great pre-season he had and the fact that that gave
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him a little bit of experience in the scheme, made it so that they felt
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like that that was gonna be a better move for them, at least initially.
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And honestly, with the track record of, you know, first Pete and John, and now
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John and, and Mike, like, I feel like we're gonna be talking about, you know
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second contract Avery Smith in about three years, as a, you know, top 15 quarter
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in the league or something like that.
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Or at least a solid starter and…
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'Cause these are the guys they find.
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These are the guys.
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Brandan: They always seem to.
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And Marlon in chat saying, "Oots, Richmond, Clark," those, those
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are the three big injuries, right, to, to come from this pre-season.
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And, and that's why I ma- tried to made the, make the clarification of
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the, the starting 22, which maybe you could make the argument for Oots
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being the, the lead fullback.
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But, if you were the Chargers and John Schneider calls you about a cornerback
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don't you, don't you pick up the phone and then reconsider that, oh, maybe…
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'Cause it's not like the Chargers are, like, this great, depth team.
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Oh, yeah, Bobo.
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also outside the starting 22.
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But, yes, w- I, while we're announcing all of the people who got
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injured, we can't leave out Bobo.
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it's not like the Chargers have this wealth of depth at corner.
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And so if John Schneider makes that call, Adam, aren't you like, "Well
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may- maybe we should keep this dude"?
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Adam: You never know.
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You never know.
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so kinda going through this, what, what was the biggest
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surprise for you, either on dudes who made it or guys that did-
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Brandan: The biggest sur- probably that we kept 10 offensive linemen.
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I thought that because they ended up keeping more on offense than on defense.
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They kept 26 on offense, and so as some of the names of people who were being kept
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started to roll in, like they're keeping Sauer, they're keeping Kallerup
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they're, they're keeping Bryce Cabeldue, you know, a lot of these guys kind of on
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the tight end and offensive line bubbles.
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I'm thinking well, w- I, I was starting to worry that there
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was something coming that, would be unexpected on offense.
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But it, it turned out that it just was that they kept 26 on offense
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and then only 24 on defense.
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So I, I guess the biggest thing for me was so many linemen
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Adam: Interesting.
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It's fu- my biggest surprise goes to offensive line too, because I think if you
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asked any 12 going into the training camp and preseason what the odds were that
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Christian Haynes would be able to play himself into sticking onto this roster
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this year, I bet you everybody would say, like, a 10% chance or less, right?
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Right.
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And I would've absolutely been in that camp.
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So for Christian Haynes to come out and perform as he did throughout
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the preseason with some really nice reps, throughout the preseason
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that was, that was a shock to me.
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That, it, it's literally a shock to me that he's on the
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roster now because of that.
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Brandan: Well, he showed his versatility throughout the preseason.
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They had him at right guard.
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They had him at left guard.
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He, he played full games where he was pulling double duty, and, and, and
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he had some good plays in there too.
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And then when Bo Stevens, when you got to see some of, his reps
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highlighted against Chris Jones in the final preseason game, I, I know we
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the breakdown was going around of, of some of his pancake he tried
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to take Chris Jones to the ground, in that game against the Chiefs.
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those are, those are pretty fun, reps by him.
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And yeah, when you…
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So Haynes, I guess the fact that Cabeldue ended up making it there
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shows that they, they wanna make sure that they have plenty of depth
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on that offensive line, and I, now I feel like we're super deep at guard.
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Adam: Yeah, it does help to have that extra depth there, and I think one
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of the things that it points to is just the way that the league is evolving in
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keeping four tight ends and only five receivers and then 10 offensive linemen.
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Like, all of that speaks to a certain style of football, of big
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physical, jelly it right down your throat, and I'm here for it, man.
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I, I love it.
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And it, I think that's a, an interesting development in the way that
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rosters are being managed these days because, you know, just even, what?
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Eight, 10 years ago, most teams were keeping six wide receivers all the
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time because you're in four wides all the time and spreading them out and
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doing the college rinky-dink stuff.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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KNTSTP saying, "Imagine having this convo about the O-line three years ago."
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Yeah
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Adam: right.
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Brandan: it, it is, it is a little bit surprising.
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on the running back side, so Jadarian Price, Brady Russell, George Holani
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Emmanuel Wilson, the four running backs.
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I think some people may have been surprised at, Jac- Jacardia Wright
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being cut considering how much play, but I, I think they were just trying
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to showcase him as much as possible.
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Velus Jones Jr.'s one of those vested veteran guys that I think they would
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try to keep around, and so j- having Jacardia out there as much as they did
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against the Chiefs was kind of a way f- to showcase him to, around the league
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and give him opportunity just to say, you know, for other teams to go, "Eh, maybe
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we need a running back," and, and he could be a guy based on his performance.
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But he, while we, we got to see the one touchdown from him the week before
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there, there weren't any real breakout plays from him against the Chiefs.
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Adam: Not a lot of breakout holes to run through either-
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No… to be fair to Jacardia.
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But yeah, maybe a surprise that you don't keep another back there
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especially if you're gonna be playing pound the rock type football.
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And with the amount of attrition that happens, in the running back room.
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But again, you're kinda looking at the four backs there, and
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it's, it's kind of five, right?
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Because at the end of the day, or the three running backs there
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it's kind of four because, you know, that Charbonnet is coming back.
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Brandan: Yeah, exactly.
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Marlon85 in chat saying, "Clinton must be happy about Foster."
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I think we should all be happy about Foster.
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I mean, he was kind of the, the story through hard knocks and, y- with…
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It's kind of a bummer because I think Bobo getting injured was his
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avenue to then making this team.
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But, a- and the other part of that too, which was, with Cody White
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that was another part that surprised me a little bit because I felt like in
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the week leading up to it, Cody White wasn't on the vested veteran list.
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But then when they announced the cuts, Cody White was on the list
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of the guys who were the vested veterans, so that's why it made sense
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to where, he's not gonna get…
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I, I think if White were subject to waiver claims, you, you probably would've
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seen White make the roster inste- over Foster, but because he is a veteran
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they can add him, you know, they can say, "Hey, you're not necessarily
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going anywhere," unless somebody gives him a guaranteed deal, right?
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But, yeah.
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Right Keeping Foster and then hopefully White then able to
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be part of that ready squad.
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Adam: Yeah, it feels like Cody White would be one of the people
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to go to the ready squad here.
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And then of some of the veterans, obviously they talk about Diggs going
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to the ready squad, so we know that.
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Brandan: The Anthony Bell, the other one, was w- another one of those vet- vested
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veteran guys that probably sticks around.
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Adam: Yep, that
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Brandan: feels right.
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But not on the, on, not on the 53.
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Adam: Right.
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It, that feels correct to me.
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you know, Mr.
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Iggy, he's gonna be, a guy that I would think they could sneak into
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that, ready squad position there.
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Velus Jones Jr., I mean, whatever.
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I, I couldn't care less.
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It, it'll be interesting- He
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Brandan: he- He's a depth piece on special teams that you, you may
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wanna keep around for his, Sure.
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Yeah.
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Darcy in chat saying, "What about the safeties?"
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It, was it surprising at all to you?
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Because the, the fact that they did only go with 23 or 24 on defense
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they ended up, I think, being a little light at the safety spot, 'cause you
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have Julian Love, you have Ty Okada, and then you have Nick Emmanwori.
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While Emmanwori has suited up to practice now, do you look at that as them
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being hopeful that Emmanwori is then going to be ready to go week one?
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or, against the Patriots?
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Or are you feeling like they're, they're gonna have to make some
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switch there to have some safety depth going into week one?
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Adam: Yeah, I think, you know, with Bell, with my prediction of
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being part of the 70 and on the ready squad, I think that that gives
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you, obviously, then your fourth.
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And then I'd be almost surprised too if Rodney Thomas doesn't
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end up there depending on what they've seen out of him throughout
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practice and that sort of thing.
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And then that would give you the flexibility if, you know, injuries
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do kind of come around, or you feel like you need to elevate a guy for
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a particular week and you're feeling thin at safety, then you could do that.
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So that, that'd be my guess as to how they're gonna manage it.
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But I mean- It's Josh Snyder.
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Like, good luck.
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Brandan: Looking at the depth on defense.
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So we, I, I mentioned the three safeties that we kept.
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let- let's go kind of the back of the defense to the front.
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corners, they kept five.
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Devon Witherspoon, Josh Jobe, Julian Neal, Nehemiah Pritchett, and then the
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the corner that they traded for from Toledo that rounds out the five at corner.
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Adam: Yep, and I mean, that seems like it could be a decent
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room when it's all said and done.
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I mean, obviously it's top-heavy at this point.
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But I liked what we saw out of Pritchett, especially in preseason Game 3.
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you know, John talking about Julian Neal and that, being like, "Hey, you know
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we didn't really see much out of him," and he's like, "Dude, he's like 6'2" and fast
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and has ball skills," and that's cool.
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So I, I'm not surprised that they ended up keeping him, and there
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there's still a path to, for him to see more playing time this year.
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And again, I, I'm now squarely in the Avery Smith is probably gonna be like
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a s- solid starting level quarter for this team-… for like two
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three years because John, you know?
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Brandan: Well, they also, I don't know if they necessarily need him to, to
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be a guy that goes out there right away and, and contributes either.
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So, I, I think they have, they, they have some time with him
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too, but, they do feel like based on the trade, based on Diggs staying
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around, possibly Igbinoghene, it, it seems like there is a lot of depth
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there, and they're just gonna kind of wait to see who steps r- up from there.
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Plus
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Adam: Terrion Arnold might be back at some point this season as well.
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Brandan: Yeah, who knows, right?
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Because-
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Adam: That's a lot of hard telling not knowing, for sure.
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Brandan: I mean, he has to avoid jail first, so there's-
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Adam: That would be, that'd be sweet, unless I guess he really deserves
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to go to jail, which I don't know.
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Like, it, it's all allegations at this
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Brandan: point.
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Right.
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linebackers, you got Ernest Jones, Drake Thomas, Tyrese Knight, who felt
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like the three locks based on the preseason, and then, Chazz Surratt.
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Patrick O'Connell, our, our Kalispell kid made it through, Adam, who generally
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we don't see make it, to the 53.
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Usually, the, he's a guy that they have to s- let slip to the practice squad, but
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they, they, he was not one they were taking a chance on this year, apparently.
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Adam: Yeah, I mean, definitely with, you know, former Flathead
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Brave, not Glacier Wolfpack-… Patrick O'Connell, it is pretty
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cool to see him on there since he's from our hometown, and he has really kind of
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improved his play each and every year, and I think he's become a, a consistent
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performer, a guy that you can look at and say, "I feel pretty confident
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with him as a, solid backer."
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Brandan: We've got Leonard Williams, Jarran Reed, Byron Murphy, Riley Mills
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and then Brandon Peely and Mike Morris, who, guys who I kind of thought were
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near the bubble, both made it, made it.
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Devin Eastern, though, was cut.
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Adam: Yeah.
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somebody that got touted a lot with the preseason hype and that sort of thing
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when he came in and didn't really flash.
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Mike Morris is somebody who has just kind of stuck around and, and is making a
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career for himself, and that was kind of cool to see, 'cause I like the dude.
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But, you know, big-bodied guy.
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It…
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You look down that, you know, defensive line group there, and
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there's not a lot of, like, the super twitchy, just get off the ball guys.
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I mean, these are mauling dudes who get in your face and are good against the run.
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So, that's something I like to see.
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Brandan: Michael Knight coming in with a $10 super chat.
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Jason Turner saying, "What do you think about cornerback A.J.
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Smith?"
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We did talk a little bit about A.J.
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Smith- Mm-hmm… off the top, so, but as far as what I've seen
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for, I, I haven't watched any A.J.
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Smith with the Chargers, but, Yeah, not one snap… I, I know
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some people in chat, there were some Chargers fans who were surprised
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that he was dealt because they, they thought he was gonna make their 53.
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Adam: That's interesting.
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And again, just trusting in John on this sort of thing.
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Brandan: He, he has a good track record of, of finding corners.
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I mean, that's how Josh Jobe ended up here, is that he was- Oh
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Adam: yeah
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… Brandan: he was an undrafted guy.
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The Eagles had him.
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They traded a pick, and now they've, you know, given him a contract, so.
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Adam: Yeah.
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Brandan: rounding out the defense, though, DeMarcus
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Lawrence, Dante Fowler Jr.
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Uchenna Nwosu, Derick Hall, Connor O'Toole making the list ahead of both Jared
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Ivey and Jamie Sheriff, who were cut.
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Adam: Yeah.
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Jamie Sheriff, one of those guys that just kind of bounces on
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and off this roster 1,000 times.
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I'm sure when he got the, the long three-minute walk, as John
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put it in his presser, he's like, he probably chatted it up.
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It probably wasn't that quiet 'cause he's like, "Yeah, I do this all the time,"
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like, "They'll bring me back again."
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and maybe they do, at some point.
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But edge rusher, you know, basically the same group that
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you had last year as a whole.
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And honestly, I, I feel like Fowler's a bit of an upgrade
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over, you know, current Boye Mafe.
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Could Boye Mafe be, like, super awesome in three years?
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Maybe.
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Hard telling, but I doubt it.
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I like this group, and I think they're as deep as they need to be, and
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they're gonna be another force this year
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Brandan: Rick Darcy.
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Not, it sounds like not a big fan of the Kallerup, decision to keep him
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around, which I think that because we see so little of him in the passing
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game, but they, they seem to, they seem to like him, 'cause he stuck
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around all last year, and so I wasn't shocked when I saw Kallerup on the list
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of, of keeping four tight ends and, along with Albert, Arroyo, and Barner.
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yeah, not, not a lot…
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I'm not shocked myself, but, they, they have plans for Nick Kallerup, Adam.
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Adam: Yeah, they have plans for him to be just a solid dude
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that you can insert in there if, you need to because of injury.
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And yeah, I mean, I- I'm not exactly like over the moon that Kallerup
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is on the roster by any means.
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Not pissed off about it neither.
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that's kind of one of those roster moves that I look at and I
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go, "Yeah, that's what we're doing?
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Okay, fine."
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Brandan: And let's see, we touched on the wide receivers
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running backs, and quarterbacks.
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Milroe made the, we're, we're rolling with three quarterbacks again
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and I, I don't think we should be necessarily shocked by that based on- No
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what we saw from Milroe.
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Adam: No.
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And not only that, but, like, if you're gonna make the investment in
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Milroe as you did just in the draft, and then now two off-seasons worth
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of work, and you see progression in that work, like, you don't give up
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on a developmental QB at this point.
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The- there's no real reason to do that, in my opinion
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Brandan: We got Paul's Epic Adventure reminding us that, Aaron Donald is
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on the Rams this year, Adam, and, asking if the Rams are over the cap space.
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Yeah.
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I, I mean, I guess not because they have to, they have to be under.
22:20
They, they're
22:20
Adam: probably not because of the stupid Browns and the way they
22:23
did the Miles Garrett deal there.
22:24
It
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Brandan: was the Miles Garrett deal that, that really, yeah
22:28
made that possible for them and-
22:30
Adam: Helped them out…
22:31
Brandan: it is surprising though, when I…
22:35
I'm surprised they gave him 20 million guaranteed for…
22:39
And I'm not surprised that that's what Aaron Donald
22:41
wanted to be able to come back.
22:42
Adam: Sure.
22:43
Brandan: But I, I was trying to think after the, that news came down, have
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you ever seen a guy take two years away from the league and command what is
22:55
essentially at least top 10 money at a position after that long of a break?
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It seems unprecedented.
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Adam: At the age of 35?
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Right.
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Brandan: No.
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I
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Adam: have never seen- Because
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Brandan: the, the closest thing I could think of was when Marshawn came back.
23:10
It was after a, maybe a year, maybe a little over a year for that playoff run
23:15
in 2019, and he signed for a million dollars, which was, because it was
23:22
at the end of the season, it ended up being a cap hit of like 60,000.
23:28
Yeah.
23:28
And, so for, and, and that was, Marshawn was 33 at the time, not 35.
23:35
He was closer to when he had left, and I mean, it wasn't…
23:40
We didn't get, you know, Marshawn Lynch like we, we knew and loved Marshawn
23:44
at the end of the season either.
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Adam: No.
23:47
And I think that's kind of the biggest question mark about the Donald thing
23:52
and I'm sure even the most ardent, to Ram fans would tell you the
23:57
same thing is that, look, I mean, he is 35 years old, and I don't care
24:03
how great of a player you are, like, Father Time catches up to everybody.
24:09
And so my big question is, do we see a version of Aaron Donald that's
24:14
closer to, like, Cardinals JJ Watt?
24:17
Right?
24:17
Like great, great player.
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Like, I put JJ Watt as generational as Aaron Donald in my book.
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Brandan: Yeah.
24:23
Adam: and look, I mean, you get older and you're just not that same
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type of player, no matter what.
24:30
It's just how the, how the body works.
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Brandan: No name in chat saying- Oh… "We Donald care.
24:38
Super Bowl Seahawks."
24:40
Yeah, it's…
24:41
Well, the thing about Aaron Donald, we're not seeing that Rams team
24:45
until Christmas, so it's, it, it's a, it's a little while until
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we have to worry about those guys.
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Adam: Yeah.
24:52
big, a lot of big weeks in between there and Christmas, right?
24:58
And we'll see what trajectory both teams are on and all of that.
25:01
And I think you look at both of their rosters and, you know, this
25:06
is still a star-studded roster for the Seattle Seahawks, even if the
25:10
national media won't, you know, give them the credit for that.
25:14
Because the first thing that I saw from Rams headlines with, with Aaron
25:17
Donald was, "Star-studded Rams 53 roster finalized," and it's like
25:23
okay, they're not the only ones.
25:27
Brandan: Jason Turner saying Caler has 16 more pounds than Russell, than Russell
25:30
so he would be a great fit at fullback.
25:33
I, I know I've- Mm… I've heard some whispers about Caler up possibly
25:37
playing a little bit of fullback.
25:39
If they were going to do that, like wouldn't you rep Caler up at fullback
25:44
a little bit in the preseason?
25:46
Adam: one would think.
25:48
I mean, it's not like he wasn't there to do it.
25:51
Brandan: Yeah, and it's not like it's, he was one of those depth pieces
25:55
that, oh, we really need to have him.
25:57
Look, we saw Brady Russell take snaps, we saw Lampey, take snaps.
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I, I, I just- I, I guess that's a thing that I will believe it when I see it.
26:07
It, it just seems like a lot of…
26:09
It seems like more talk than…
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I, I, I'm, I'm willing to give that credence until there is, like
26:17
actual Keller up at fullback snaps.
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Adam: Yeah, not a lot of, like, evidence that you've seen for it.
26:23
Right.
26:23
Just more lip service.
26:24
And look, to further your point too, Brandan, it's not like Ouzts got
26:27
hurt yesterday, and so they were like, "No, we're set at fullback.
26:31
Why would we put Keller up back there and give him some tries?"
26:34
You know?
26:35
Ouzts has been hurt for a while now.
26:37
Yeah.
26:37
And so you'd think if they were interested in doing that, maybe they are
26:41
in practice and we just don't see it.
26:43
But again, this is why I am so-… bleeping stoked, Brandan.
26:48
I am so stoked that today is the last of, like, the off-season GM'ing part
26:54
of football and we're onto football.
26:57
Like, actual football.
26:58
I can't wait.
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Brandan: We will get to see how it plays out, Michael Knight, with $5 saying
27:04
"I absolutely love the Rams are all in.
27:06
Let's do this.
27:07
Love the NFC West.
27:09
Proud to be in the best division in football.
27:11
Rams smell that home Super Bowl.
27:13
I don't blame them, but the chip goes through Seattle."
27:16
And see, that's again, what you're talking about there, Adam.
27:18
The, the beautiful thing is that now we get to play it out.
27:22
We get to see what a 35-year-old Aaron Donald looks like, against
27:28
the, the Niners in week one after we finish our week one game
27:33
against the New England Patriots.
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Adam: That is correct.
27:36
And we're gonna see what 35-year-old Aaron Donald looks like in, you know, week 10
27:42
or whatever it is what week Christmas is.
27:45
Like, he, he's got a long ways to go, so that'll be interesting.
27:48
I think as I look down the list of the roster here, Brandan, like
27:52
obviously not a ton of big surprise.
27:54
They're returning a ton of dudes this year.
27:56
I'd say probably your biggest concern when you're looking at all this is not
28:00
because of personnel moves, but just because of pre-season performance
28:03
and you're looking at the kicker.
28:05
And did you see Jason Myers' response to Greg Bell asking
28:09
him about the pre-season stuff?
28:11
Brandan: Oh, no.
28:13
Adam: He's like, "Yeah, so, you know, what's going on, J My?"
28:16
And he's like, "Oh, you know, just kicking things."
28:20
And he's like, "Well, I mean, is it something you're
28:22
working on or this, that?"
28:23
And then he's like, "It's just, you know, it's just kicking things.
28:26
That's just, just things you go through, and I'm, I'm, I'm working on it.
28:29
I'll have it, I'll have it sussed out, you know, basically."
28:32
Brandan: Wait, so does that response- And it was like- Does that, bother you?
28:35
Yes.
28:35
Or does that make you feel better?
28:37
Adam: It bothers me so much because kickers are so effing weird.
28:41
They are so weird.
28:42
They're in their own little world.
28:44
Like, nobody wants it…
28:45
Mike doesn't even wanna address it, because you don't wanna
28:47
go and talk to the kicker.
28:48
Like, it's like talking to a pitcher.
28:50
Like, it's even more- Yeah, mess with their head… m- more in their heads.
28:53
Like, yeah, man, it's like, no, it's not just kicking things, dude.
28:57
Like, that doesn't make me feel an ounce better.
29:00
b- you know what would make me feel a lot better is when you come out and
29:03
you're just drilling them in week one.
29:05
Do that
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Brandan: We got Scott Campbell Photography- What's up… with 14.99
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Australian.
29:12
"Hey, boys, exciting times with the 53-man roster being set.
29:15
Bring on week one as I'll be in Seattle for the game.
29:19
Let's lower the banner and beat the Pats.
29:21
Excited for another year of the pod."
29:24
Well, it'll be great to see you there, Scott, because, let's
29:28
see, I talked to Tracy, Adam.
29:29
She's gonna have her tailgate set up, so I'll be- Yeah.
29:32
if you go to getintheflock.com
29:34
we'll, we'll have it posted where we're planning on meeting up for the
29:37
tailgate the morning of the game.
29:39
We're planning on meeting at 13 Coins, Tuesday night before the game.
29:44
I suppose we should find a post-game spot to settle down at because
29:48
yeah, you and I are gonna be at the Patriots game too, buddy.
29:51
Hell yeah.
29:51
Along with Clinton, and yeah.
29:53
Adam: Yeah.
29:53
It's gonna be a ball.
29:54
Can't wait to see the championship banners drop, all of it.
29:58
Can't wait to see sad Patriot face again.
30:00
That's gonna be a good time.
30:01
It's gonna be great, man.
30:02
I can't wait to see all y'all, including you, Scott.
30:05
This is gonna be great.
30:07
Brandan: Dad Golf saying, "Didn't we have a kicker who was
30:10
hot one year and cold the next?
30:11
Hot then cold."
30:12
Yes, that was Jason
30:13
Adam: Myers.
30:13
That's the
30:13
Brandan: kicker.
30:15
Adam: Yeah.
30:15
Brandan: but I think we worked…
30:18
So I think this might actually be…
30:21
He's missed five or more kicks in the regular season every other season, and I
30:26
think, was it, I think it was last year.
30:29
Yeah.
30:29
Last year he missed five or more, so this is supposed to actually be his good year.
30:34
Adam: Yeah, there you go.
30:35
And the one question I have, though, because this is, you know
30:39
80% half metal for these kickers.
30:41
Like, we've got a mental coach, somebody who's working with
30:45
Ricky Gervais, right?
30:46
In- Michael
30:47
Brandan: Gervais.
30:48
Adam: Michael Gervais or whatever his name is.
30:50
He's, he's a Gervais.
30:51
He's one of the Gervais.
30:52
in, in Mr.
30:54
Hauschka, right?
30:54
Like, he's a kicker.
30:56
He knows the mentals, and he's, like, a, a coach at these things.
30:59
Like, I need Jason Myers to get with Hauschka, like, right now.
31:04
Brandan: NuBlack saying, "I'm actually pretty pissed Rams get a
31:07
roster exemption for Donald for two games so they can carry an extra guy."
31:11
I, I have not heard that, but, that doesn't seem right to me.
31:15
Adam: Yeah, we'll find out, but it would not shock me
31:18
in the slightest because- Yeah
31:19
Brandan: they're giving the, giving the Rams benefits.
31:21
Yeah.
31:21
They haven't announced…
31:22
Well, what, what we have to wait and see is if they're gonna be…
31:25
If Alaric Jackson isn't suspended, like, if that announcement doesn't
31:30
come this week, there's something funny going on with the NFL and their
31:33
ra- and their suspensions if, if…
31:35
Puka I'm unsure on, but Alaric Jackson, like, there, there should be no
31:40
reason why that dude isn't suspended.
31:42
Adam: No.
31:42
If you're being accused of, domestic violence now for the second
31:46
time, then I can't understand how you're not at the very least- After
31:51
Brandan: you got suspended for two games the first time
31:53
… Adam: this is what I'm saying.
31:54
How are you not on the commissioner's exempt list already?
31:57
Brandan: Yeah.
31:58
I, it has to happen this week, I'm sure.
32:01
Oh, NuBlack saying Tom Pelissero tweeted.
32:02
Okay, well then, the, there there's some kind of- All right…
32:06
exemption there for Aaron Donald.
32:08
I don't know, because he's old?
32:09
Because, I, I, I-
32:11
Adam: Because it has to work in
32:13
Brandan: LA It has, has to work in LA, so.
32:15
Marlon saying Puka expected this week.
32:17
Yeah, w- I, I expect it too, but y- if we're just finding out that these magical
32:22
exemptions exist for old guys that decide to return to the NFL apparently.
32:27
Adam: I- if they return for the LA Rams.
32:30
Right.
32:30
That, that's where the magical exemption comes in.
32:31
Brandan: Yeah.
32:32
Well, then why didn't we get one for Trevon Diggs?
32:34
Why, why do we
32:34
Adam: have to- Are we the LA Rams?
32:35
No, because we're awesome and they blow, so, like, that's, that's
32:39
the answer to your question.
32:40
Brandan: Yeah, there we go.
32:41
So, okay.
32:41
So kicker is one position group that we're a little bit concerned about.
32:46
num- if, if that one's number one, just based on the pre-season
32:50
and what we saw- Yeah… from Jason Myers and only making three kicks.
32:53
number two position group that you would be worried about
32:58
I think has to either be between running back or cornerback
33:03
Adam: Interesting.
33:03
I actually feel okay with running back because Holani's a guy.
33:08
Like, he's a guy.
33:09
Yeah.
33:09
And he can do running back things.
33:11
everybody else is higher on Wilson than I am, so I'll defer
33:14
to everybody else on that one.
33:16
So like, comfortable enough with that.
33:18
And I really like Jadarian, and I think that he has a fantastic chance
33:22
to be a very good back in the system.
33:26
And then, you know, we always have the, you know, extra boost of Charbonnet
33:29
coming back, at some point here.
33:32
I did want to, address, Ducks, Ducks Blazers here.
33:36
He says he's new and hello and, well, hello to you, buddy.
33:40
Yeah, welcome.
33:41
Thanks for stopping by.
33:41
Yeah, love to having you, man.
33:43
This is great.
33:45
Okay… for me, the, the position group that I get a little
33:48
worried about is just safety, only because of depth at this point.
33:52
Brandan: Okay.
33:52
So it is safety for you.
33:54
'Cause I, I like, I like the starters, right?
33:57
Julian Love, Ty Okada, Yeah, I feel
33:59
Adam: good about
33:59
Brandan: that… like we- we've seen, and Nick Emmanwori obviously.
34:02
And Corner, that's- that's why I feel like for me, it, it does go to running
34:07
back because y- y- You don't know what Price is going to be until you see him.
34:14
There is that wait- Yep… until Charbonnet gets back, and Halani
34:19
yeah, he's, he's just a guy, but I wanna have that dominant running game.
34:24
But as long as the offensive line can, can make that happen, then I, I suppose
34:28
we've seen all those years of, you know, Shanahan Broncos running backs that just
34:33
ran behind a dominant offensive line.
34:36
Adam: Yeah, and that's the thing, is that when I'm looking
34:38
at running backs in this sort of system, think of all the dudes that
34:42
have been through San Francisco.
34:43
Think of all the guys that, Mike McDaniel was able to run through down
34:48
there in Miami and get big seasons out of.
34:51
Like, this is the sort of system that, you know, you find a guy like Peyton
34:54
Hillis, and all of a sudden he's on the cover of Madden the next year.
34:58
You know?
34:58
Yeah.
34:58
Or CJ Anderson or, you know, guys like that.
35:01
So
35:02
Brandan: I feel like the- And, and I would feel better about that
35:04
though, if we had consistently produced guys like that the way that
35:07
the Broncos did for all those years.
35:09
And, and so I, I suppose that if we move on from Ken Walker and, and we
35:16
see some dominant run performances then through these first four weeks, well
35:20
m- maybe we'll just end up chalking it up to Jadarian Price being good, too
35:23
if, if he's the guy that we see it from.
35:25
But, I, I guess that's the, that's the one area that I'm watching
35:29
for the most to prove it to me.
35:34
Adam: Look, I get it, because there is the unknown of it, and I
35:37
totally understand that, and I think it's a, a completely reasonable
35:40
place to come from on that.
35:42
you said something along the lines of, like, "I'd feel more comfortable if
35:46
we had that track record," like, say, the Broncos did there for a while, or the
35:49
Niners have had and that sort of thing.
35:51
Well, how do you start that track record?
35:54
You start by doing it just like this, right?
35:56
Yeah.
35:56
We, we had a good year last year.
35:57
Like, this is year two.
35:59
We're right at the beginning of starting that track record.
36:02
Brandan: Yeah, like Marlon85's saying in chat, "Ken who?"
36:05
Yeah.
36:05
Ken who
36:05
Adam: what?
36:05
Brandan: I, I wanna…
36:06
That's what I wanna be saying is, "Ken who?"
36:08
When, we start rolling off big running back games.
36:11
Adam: Here's the thing I will not miss about Ken Walker, and
36:13
even though I've missed Ken Walker.
36:15
Right?
36:15
Like, I, I do.
36:16
I love Kenny Walker, but, he's, he's already got a foot
36:20
injury because of his shoes.
36:22
Right.
36:23
Like, just like…
36:24
I, I'm, I'm glad that's not-
36:26
Brandan: We, we, we live through that every preseason, right?
36:28
Was, what's the, the canine injury that's gonna sideline him-
36:32
Yeah… and, and make us worry, through the first part of the season?
36:35
Adam: I think two years ago he had, like, a game or two missed
36:38
because of shoe injury or something like that-… if I remember right.
36:43
Brandan: the Charlie the Unicorn, "Will Seattle pull
36:45
off another trade soon?"
36:48
They made a trade at corner.
36:50
I…
36:51
If they were to make a trade, where would it, where would it be?
36:56
I think there would have to be an injury that would
37:00
precipitate a trade- Yeah… or
37:05
I, I guess maybe at edge would be a spot to where
37:11
like, the Connor O'Toole spot.
37:12
Like, I could see us getting better there, or
37:18
Adam: At, at, at fifth end?
37:19
Brandan: At, at fifth edge or…
37:22
Yeah, but that's where some of these trades are gonna happen, right?
37:24
Because it's, you're talking about trading sixth and seventh rounders
37:27
of, of guys who, you know, have pieces that you wanna add to, to depth.
37:33
So, yeah.
37:36
It, I, I think it would…
37:37
If there would be anything it would be on the defensive line, I would think.
37:41
Adam: Would it rhyme with Schmack Schmosby?
37:45
As the, as the snail had there?
37:47
Brandan: Yeah.
37:47
Adam: Is that on your radar at all?
37:48
Brandan: It's not on my radar, but now it is.
37:53
Adam: Yeah, I don't know.
37:54
we'll see what happens here.
37:57
It do- I'm with you, though.
37:58
It does feel as if it would be an injury-related thing and, you
38:03
know, knock on the wood right now, like, that that doesn't happen.
38:07
Brandan: Yeah.
38:08
I, we don't want any more injuries, but, you know, they, they
38:13
will be inevitable and, you just deal with them from there.
38:18
But, overall, 53-man roster, liking the look of it, Adam.
38:25
I, I, I'm feeling good.
38:26
Feeling good about this team going into week one against the Patriots.
38:30
Adam: Yeah, man.
38:30
I'm feeling good about it.
38:31
I'm feeling good about JeffArcher69 here.
38:34
He said he subbed here on a earlier comment and that he's loving-
38:36
Hey-… the conversation… welcome, Jeff We're loving the sub, dude.
38:39
Appreciate it, man.
38:40
If you're new to the channel here, as we enter…
38:42
Is this year 13 for us, Brandan?
38:44
Is that what we decided?
38:45
Season 13.
38:45
Oh, gosh.
38:46
I- Season 14.
38:47
Whatever.
38:47
in the teens.
38:49
look, we do this every single week.
38:52
We put out five shows a week during the regular season.
38:55
We got a really cool preview show in, What If.
39:00
We've got Three and Three out, which recaps the previous game
39:03
and we talk about some of the nooks and crannies that maybe a lot of
39:06
other folks aren't talking about.
39:07
We've got our flagship every single week, which is me and Brandan, and
39:11
we go through the, previous game and the upcoming game as well.
39:16
we do, Saturday News and Notes, along with Blue Friday
39:19
Bets, and that's pretty cool.
39:21
Does that get us to five?
39:21
Oh, yeah.
39:22
We also do the ins- instant reaction after the games on
39:25
Sundays or Mondays or whatever.
39:27
I guess this time it'll be Wednesday, for week one.
39:30
But yeah, if you're new here, lot of great content that we
39:33
pump out every single week.
39:34
We'd love to have you as one of our little Flockers in, along for the
39:38
ride as we're running this forward.
39:40
Brandan: Saw one of the, the questions in chat was…
39:44
Oh, here it is.
39:45
From, For Me To Be, "What's the biggest name on another team
39:51
who didn't make the roster?"
39:53
And, I- Oof… I think a lot of the names that I saw
39:57
were ones that it wouldn't be…
40:00
They wouldn't be dudes that we would bring in.
40:02
Like, Will Levis was one of the guys who got cut from the Titans and
40:06
Cam Miller got cut from the Dolphins.
40:08
so m- a lot of quarterbacks were kind of highlighted among those names.
40:13
I think, the one for me that was the most interesting that
40:17
was Evan Neal for the Giants, Adam.
40:20
And-
40:21
Adam: Oh, interesting.
40:22
Okay
40:22
… Brandan: the, the fact that he got cut from the Giants But we've just
40:27
got done talking about how much depth we have on the offensive line, but a
40:31
former number seven overall pick- Yeah
40:33
in the '22 draft.
40:35
yeah.
40:37
that, that one's interesting.
40:39
Adam: It's interesting, but we also went down that path
40:41
with John for a while, right?
40:43
Where we're bringing in, you know, former first round offensive lineman
40:48
the dude from the Jags at tackle.
40:51
Brandan: that they brought up- Oh
40:52
Adam: Luke Jokl.
40:52
Yeah, Jokl, for a minute.
40:55
And yeah, there was a few of them during that timeframe, and after that experience
41:00
in my fandom, I'm good on it.
41:02
Like I, I, I don't need- I don't need to explore that again.
41:07
Brandan: The Snail saying, "Joined October 13, 2013."
41:12
Doesn't say when your first video was.
41:14
It wa- 20…
41:14
Well, our first, our first season was the Super Bowl season.
41:19
It was.
41:19
So it's just so much math to try and count backwards that many years to try
41:23
and figure out, yeah, when it was.
41:26
Adam: Yeah, yeah.
41:28
So, yeah.
41:29
Brandan: Whatever.
41:30
We started at the start of
41:31
Adam: the Super Bowl season.
41:32
We started before that though, because we, we were doing the audio pod before we
41:35
started putting the audio on YouTube too.
41:36
Brandan: I, but I think we created the YouTube channel, later that year.
41:41
Adam: Right.
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Brandan: So it was that same year.
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Oh, you said October- Well, same
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Adam: year.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I'm just saying like, it was, we started before the season started, so
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it wasn't like we started mid-season.
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There you go.
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We, we started the pod to, go ahead and, you know
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win the Super Bowl, so…
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Brandan: For me to be, first person to read my name right, Go Hawks.
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It, it was completely by accident.
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Adam: Hey, I don't even know- If I didn't miss Brandan, I
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would've [bleep] that up for sure.
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Yep.
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Brandan: appreciate everybody joining us, as we're talking
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about the 53-man roster tonight.
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We just wanted to go live and kinda react to what we saw.
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And, yeah, appreciate everybody joining in.
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And as I mentioned, getintheflock.com
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we still have about 10 tickets left, if you wanna join us
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for the opening weekend, and, tickets are about 260 a piece.
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So, getintheflock.com
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if you wanna get that info.
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I meant to post that today, and I, I haven't yet, so I'm, I'm gonna go
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do that now after we finish up here.
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Adam: Yep.
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We'll get after that.
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and, yeah, come meet the Flockers as, Charlie the Unicorn says.
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Adam: Absolutely.
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No, it's awesome.
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And look, man, what a cool journey to be on with all of you guys as we
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Rams implode as most super teams do.
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Brandan: Go Hawks.
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Adam: Go Hawks.