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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Restore Wellness, Auschwitz Exhibit · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five O four A fifty about darc the talk station
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday series.
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  Speaker 2: Some sill.
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  Speaker 1: It is must be Friday? Got a woo who from
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  Speaker 1: Joe'strekor Executive producer at fifty five Carcy Morning Showan Brian
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  Speaker 1: Thomas hosted a fifty five Carecy Morning Show, and I
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  Speaker 1: would would invite phone calls because I love talking to
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  Speaker 1: the listeners. Sadly, the phones are out Joe's Trekker. This
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  Speaker 1: is hilarious to me every time this happens, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not that often, but we've had phone issues before. Joe
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  Speaker 1: has to deal with someone in Chicago to fix local
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  Speaker 1: phone issues. Any system issue that exists here in Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: has to be addressed by somebody in Chicago, usually posing
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  Speaker 1: a problem considering the time difference between us in Chicago. So, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised you found an awake, live human being to
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  Speaker 1: even talk to this morning. I understand the problem wasn't
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  Speaker 1: resolved after an hour or so of working with that
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  Speaker 1: person either, So sadly, until that situation gets turned around,
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  Speaker 1: I'm stuck on my own here on a Friday. But
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  Speaker 1: it's a great Friday because we have plenty of guests
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  Speaker 1: coming in this morning. I appreciate Joe lining up of
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  Speaker 1: course every Friday Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Today we'll
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  Speaker 1: be talking about this is scary stuff. You're a poll
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  Speaker 1: dismantling a sim farm network, and that's one of those
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  Speaker 1: nefarious bot farms that sends out all kinds of trolling
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  Speaker 1: and fake emails and processes nefarious transactions and probably engages
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  Speaker 1: in hacking efforts. We'll get all the details about what
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  Speaker 1: this sim farm network was doing or was capable of doing,
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  Speaker 1: but it was powering forty nine million fake worldwide accounts.
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  Speaker 1: So thinking about that one celebrity who was so distressed
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  Speaker 1: because of all the negative comments that were made to
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  Speaker 1: her about her post, And I looked at it from
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  Speaker 1: a viewpoint of is your life so shallow that your
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  Speaker 1: entire being is predicated of what your perception of what
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  Speaker 1: other people think about you, that your life is crushed
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  Speaker 1: and brought down because a lot of people have a
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  Speaker 1: backlash against you for some seemingly innocuous comment you made online.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm terrible. I'm devastated. Just remember there
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  Speaker 1: are these sim farms out there, fake accounts that generate
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  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff automatically. Yeah, artificial intelligence. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: try AI sometime. If you're not familiar with the chat
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  Speaker 1: GPT will scare that crap out of you. Give it
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  Speaker 1: something hard to do, and it'll turn out a response,
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  Speaker 1: usually a plausible, reasonable response, in a matter of just
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  Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, little bot farms, little individual accounts can
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  Speaker 1: do just that. So maybe it isn't a real person
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  Speaker 1: responding to your post. Maybe it's something like that designed
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  Speaker 1: to spew out divisive posts. That happens, And if you
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  Speaker 1: don't believe me, I seem to think Dave had will
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  Speaker 1: confirm that coll or the toilet company manufacturer, Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: fixture manufacturer looking to put camera in your camera in
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  Speaker 1: your toilet to analyze its contents. Yeah, I can concede
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  Speaker 1: that there may be some benefit medically to that. But
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  Speaker 1: a camera in your toilet, Joe, you don't think anybody
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  Speaker 1: would use that for nefarious purposes?
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  Speaker 3: Do you do?
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  Speaker 1: You think they had security in mind when they designed that,
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  Speaker 1: so they can prevent people from hacking into it and
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  Speaker 1: looking at your bottom or the contents of the toilet, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: Is there a website for people who enjoy looking at
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  Speaker 1: the contents of a toilet? Ain't no flag for us.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna ask Pappus that question. Topic number three. Apple
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  Speaker 1: will be renting a new brain for Siri from Google
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  Speaker 1: for the price deg of one billion dollars per year.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well again that's where we have Dave how
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  Speaker 1: to go through those Restore Wellness George Brunneman to Keith
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  Speaker 1: Tenenfeld back in studio at seven oh five, talking about
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  Speaker 1: all the well wellness updatesw you can look out for
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  Speaker 1: yourself and perfect timing for me. Had my physical yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I got my blood work results, and I'm telling you, man,
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  Speaker 1: that diet I've been on for the last year did wonders.
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  Speaker 1: He showed me my blood work for the last four years,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in a row like I went back to
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But man, I looked at my twenty twenty results,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm surprised you didn't declare me a wreck
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  Speaker 1: back then. But compared to that and now at just amazing, amazing, amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just so pleased, just patting myself on the
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  Speaker 1: back and using me as an illustration of if you
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  Speaker 1: just cut the sugar out of your diet and cut
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  Speaker 1: way back on the carbs, miracles. Restore Wellness seven to
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  Speaker 1: five and the Auschwitz exhibit at the Museum Center. I've
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  Speaker 1: really been looking forward to Elizabeth Pierce, CEO of the
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  Speaker 1: Museum Center, along with Jackie cong Gato of the Holocaust
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  Speaker 1: and Humanity Center. They're going to join me in studio
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  Speaker 1: at eight oh five. Will we talking about that amazing exhibit,
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  Speaker 1: what you can see and the importance of it. Semitic
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  Speaker 1: folks out there that elected Zorhan Mamdani to be the
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  Speaker 1: mayor of New York City, I do not comprehend that
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  Speaker 1: at all. Anyhow, those a our guests today. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to having him in the studio. Of course Monday,
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman know he's not going away. Get the smith
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  Speaker 1: event at seven to twenty, and then money Monday with
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  Speaker 1: Brian James. So you got flight delays, of course, and
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  Speaker 1: apparently this chaos is exactly what the Democrats want to
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  Speaker 1: unleash on you, and they think it's going to benefit them,
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  Speaker 1: and I suppose we'll have to step back and decide
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  Speaker 1: whether or not it benefits for them. Democratic Senator Chris
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  Speaker 1: Murphy of Connecticut, I believe this was yesterday talking about
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  Speaker 1: on the heels of some expressions of optimism that maybe
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  Speaker 1: this in the next week or so, or maybe even
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  Speaker 1: shorter time period, they're going to resolve this shutdown. But
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats are standing firm on the demands to increase
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  Speaker 1: the Obamacare subsidies or extend them. Chris Murphy, Connecticut Democrat,
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  Speaker 1: I think it would be very strange if on the
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  Speaker 1: heels of the American people, having rewarded Democrats for standing
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  Speaker 1: up and fighting, we surrendered without getting anything for the
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  Speaker 1: people we've been fighting for. And he also suggested that
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  Speaker 1: a compromise could damage the Democratic brand. Now, first off,
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  Speaker 1: I'll concede Republicans didn't do well on Tuesday. But going
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  Speaker 1: back to the states we're talking about here, Virginia and
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey now pretty damn blue states. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: now I'm trying to look at it with some measure
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  Speaker 1: of positivity or looking for something positive out of the election.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the Republicans rarely stand a chance of winning
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  Speaker 1: or even running a candidate that competes, and the Republicans
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  Speaker 1: were neck and neck with the Democrat gub goodnatorial races
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  Speaker 1: up until the end. Low voter turnout apparently had some
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  Speaker 1: impact on the elections. A lot of Democrats were driven
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  Speaker 1: out of course, you got all the folks, most notably
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  Speaker 1: in Virginia that have been locked out because of the
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  Speaker 1: government shutdown. They may have been doing a protest vote,
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  Speaker 1: but they were Democrat states, so it really shouldn't come
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  Speaker 1: as an amazing shock. But did people vote for the
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  Speaker 1: Democrats there because of the shutdown? Because of the fight
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  Speaker 1: that's existing over extending Obamacare supplements? Did they vote for
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  Speaker 1: Democrats because of Donald Trump's cracking down on illegal immigrants?
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  Speaker 1: And seventy to eighty percent of the illegal immigrant crackdown
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  Speaker 1: is hardened criminal illegal immigrants that we want to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of out of the country. Was that why people
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  Speaker 1: wanted to hold Most people are suggesting it is the
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  Speaker 1: economy that was the reason inflation. It's expensive, so they
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  Speaker 1: can read into it what they want. They may do
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  Speaker 1: it at their own peril. But as the journal points out,
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  Speaker 1: you're suffering is an assist to the Democratic brand today.
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  Speaker 1: Missing out on Thanksgiving this year because your flight's been canceled.
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  Speaker 1: Democrat brand is going to help may be helped. So
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  Speaker 1: it sucks to be you. Maybe you're getting normally a
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  Speaker 1: SNAP beneficiary, and I understand a court order to the
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration to pay full SNAP benefits. We'll see if
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  Speaker 1: that happens. But maybe you are haven't been getting your
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  Speaker 1: SNAP benefits. They don't care you'd get them if they'd
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  Speaker 1: open the government up. Then the Democrats don't seem to
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  Speaker 1: care that the SNAP benefits have been cut off. Now
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  Speaker 1: they'll pay lip service that they do, but they're the
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  Speaker 1: ones that have the keys to opening the government in
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  Speaker 1: their hands, and this is something that nobody's talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for the Journal for bringing it to my pension.
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  Speaker 1: The public barely even hears about the shutdown costs for
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  Speaker 1: US national security, noting that some eighty percent of workers
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  Speaker 1: at the agency overseeing the American nuclear stockpile have been furlough.
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  Speaker 1: The Pentagon is going to be end up behind on
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  Speaker 1: ship maintenance, military training, all of this languishing. They suggest,
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  Speaker 1: voters want to check on President Trump's excesses, and this
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  Speaker 1: week's senem a signal flare about the soft economy, But
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  Speaker 1: apparently the Democrats seem determined to misread the lessons, even
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  Speaker 1: in victory. Chris Murphy in twenty thirteen here's an interesting
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  Speaker 1: quote considering his position now on the shutdown. The shutdown
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  Speaker 1: and the pain that it brings about bolsters the Democratic brand. Great, Chris, thanks,
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  Speaker 1: what happened to this quote? You got to go back
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  Speaker 1: to twenty thirteen. There is a time in place to
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  Speaker 1: debate healthcare, just like there's a time and place to
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  Speaker 1: debate energy policy and immigration and education, but not when
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  Speaker 1: funding of the federal government and all the lives that
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  Speaker 1: are impacted by it hang in the balance. He's got
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  Speaker 1: a different tune these days. Different tune. Today's the slashing
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  Speaker 1: or reduction in flights. You better call ahead of time
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  Speaker 1: Federal Aviation, you know, the other day had issued that
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  Speaker 1: ten percent reduction in flights. Apparently six hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: US flights scheduled today preemptively canceled. Yesterday, American Airlines said
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  Speaker 1: in a statement was reducing flight schedules, minding about two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty flights each day. And that's just one airline. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Dealta said it was cutting one hundred and seventy flights today.
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  Speaker 1: Southwest apparently announced one hundred flights will be cut today.
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  Speaker 1: Yes yesterday more than five thousand, five hundred US flights delayed,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty cancelations, and so they expect this
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  Speaker 1: obviously will continue. Flight reduction set to hit some of
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  Speaker 1: the country's busiest airports Atlanta, Newark, Denver, Chicago, Houston, and
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And as Jay Rattler has pointed out, stating
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  Speaker 1: the obvious, you know, when you have a shutdown or
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  Speaker 1: a big delay in one of these massive hubs, the
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  Speaker 1: ripple effect can be quite profound. So when you're sitting
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  Speaker 1: there tapping your toes stealing as they were yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was Newark Airport for three plus hours
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  Speaker 1: waiting for their planes, just remember, just remember you're bolstering
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  Speaker 1: the Democratic brand. So suck it up. Five point fifteen
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  Speaker 1: fifty five car see the talk station. Hope you can
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  Speaker 1: stick around. You're right back after these brief words. It
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  Speaker 1: is five eighteen on a Friday again. Phone lines are
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  Speaker 1: are down here for about Garston talks station. Apologies. I'd
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  Speaker 1: rather be talking to you, but if you hear from Leney,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a Friday without him. Let to see
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  Speaker 1: you here. Victor David Hanson an author from American Greatness.
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  Speaker 1: He does some brilliant column work and does this Democrat
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  Speaker 1: chaos strategy work. Obviously, we are in a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a chaotics as a situation. You know, Donald Trump's making
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  Speaker 1: some really great things happen. You got a record breaking
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  Speaker 1: drug hauls, and say what you want about blowing up boats.
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  Speaker 1: You know where I am on that. It's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Coast Guard sees an absolute all time record so far
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  Speaker 1: in the fiscal year, five hundred and ten thousand pounds
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  Speaker 1: of cocaine and growing. For folks out there worried about
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  Speaker 1: the cost of pharmaceuticals, Trump just announced a deal with
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  Speaker 1: the weight loss drug makers to reduce the cost of those.
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  Speaker 1: So those are down and now affordable these reasonably so. Look,
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  Speaker 1: Kazakhstan has joined the Abraham Accords, another amazing triumph in
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East in an effort towards peace. But he
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  Speaker 1: sucks right anyway. The chaos strategy over to Victor David
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  Speaker 1: Hanson and props to him for the following words. We
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  Speaker 1: can draw off a few conclusions from an off year
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  Speaker 1: election when iconic races in blue states went as expected,
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  Speaker 1: overwhelmingly Democrat. Nevertheless, there is only a year left before
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  Speaker 1: the midterms, so Republicans must react and even to even
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  Speaker 1: these paltry results. Okay, number one, Democrats, chaotic nihilism still works.
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  Speaker 1: The chaos strategy causes so much turmoil, noise, and negative
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  Speaker 1: media coverage that the confused voting public simply cannot sort
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  Speaker 1: it all out. The public wishes the uppeople would just
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  Speaker 1: go away, and often blames those with the most current authority,
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  Speaker 1: logically the incumbent Trump and his administration number two. Every
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  Speaker 1: day of Trump's first year there were either campus eruptions,
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  Speaker 1: TESLA firebombing, street violence against is orz district judge injunctions.
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  Speaker 1: The bedlam becomes force multiplied by unhinged outbursts from Democrats
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  Speaker 1: like aoc Jasmine Crockett, Eric Swallow, and the proverbial Squad.
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  Speaker 1: The latest firecracker thrown by a now Biden like faltering
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, who announced the retirement yesterday. Yay recently screamed
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  Speaker 1: on CNN that President Trump is just a vile creature,
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  Speaker 1: the worst thing on the face of the art. The
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  Speaker 1: public has no time to sort out all the actual
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  Speaker 1: causes for such mad HATTERI it knows only from Democrats
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  Speaker 1: that the commotion is roughly correlated with Trump. Note that
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  Speaker 1: there has never been EI. There as never a positive
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  Speaker 1: Democrat contract with America. Since it's impossible to advance anything
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  Speaker 1: popular or moderate past its now firmly socialist base. Number three.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats also use the chaos strategy to target key electoral groups.
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  Speaker 1: In this week's real election, Republicans finally go rasped to
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  Speaker 1: the purpose of the pre election shutdown. It was designed
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  Speaker 1: to galvanize key constituencies to get out the vote in
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  Speaker 1: a low turnout year. Lockdown, especially aimed to two groups,
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  Speaker 1: laid off and unpaid government workers and entitlement recipients terrified
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  Speaker 1: their checks would dry up. Both turned out disproportionately in Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey. Democrats are likely to resolve the shutdown soon,
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  Speaker 1: as the initial momentum gained by the paralyzing government is
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  Speaker 1: now diminishing. The same strategy applies to the Hispanic vote
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  Speaker 1: that actually defected in large numbers to Trump in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four. However, this week in many counties, the Hispanic
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  Speaker 1: vote shifted back toward the Democratic Party. The truth is
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  Speaker 1: not get out enough to that seventy to eighty percent
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  Speaker 1: of deportation that all. Rather, that seventy to eight percent
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  Speaker 1: of deportations are targeted at those with either criminal records
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  Speaker 1: or prior deportation orders. Instead, the non stop violent protests,
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  Speaker 1: the dangerous nullification threats from Blue City of five in
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  Speaker 1: the slanted media coverage worked like proverbial propaganda to reduce
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  Speaker 1: Ice to the Gestapo. Too many of the public believe
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  Speaker 1: that Nazis were hounding only law abiding housekeepers and landscapers
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  Speaker 1: who have been here for decades and only by accident
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  Speaker 1: forgot to make their de facto americanness official. Or so
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  Speaker 1: the successful big lie went and went unchallenged. The administration
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  Speaker 1: in Maggie did not talk enough about positive news of
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  Speaker 1: GDP growth, tolerable inflation, massive foreign investment, a calmer Middle East,
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  Speaker 1: or numerous miraculous ceasefires around the globe. Instead, when there
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  Speaker 1: is a vacuum of so and self praise, it's more
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  Speaker 1: easily replaced by the sensationalism of Trump's revenge tour in
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  Speaker 1: hounding the boy scout James Comey and poor Letitia James
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  Speaker 1: of taking a wrecking ball to the revered White House
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  Speaker 1: or insulting for no reason are blameless, nice and gentle
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  Speaker 1: Canadian neighbors. The economy not calls to sack when elections.
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  Speaker 1: Much of the Trump Agenda Number four, much of the
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  Speaker 1: Trouble agenda, other than spectacular military recruitment and secure border
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  Speaker 1: is more long term than instantly gratifying. This is a
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  Speaker 1: great point he makes here. I believe the multi trillion
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  Speaker 1: dollar foreign investments may take a year or two to
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  Speaker 1: create jobs. That's parked the economy. The deportations will take
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  Speaker 1: time to switch more jobs to US citizens. New gas,
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  Speaker 1: oil and nuclear energy production, terming the federal workforce, deregulating
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  Speaker 1: in greenlighting, artificial intelligence, and other new technologies will not
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  Speaker 1: be felt immediately. Consider after the summer nineteen eighty four convention,
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  Speaker 1: even Ronald Reagan trailed the anemic Walter Mondale in a
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  Speaker 1: few polls. Then the first three quarters of GDP cumulatively
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  Speaker 1: over seven percent growth were digested as the economy took
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  Speaker 1: off and buried Mondale in the November elections number five.
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  Speaker 1: There is no longer a Democrat party. It's now an
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  Speaker 1: unapologetically neo socialist Jacobin movement. So traditional negative advertising designed
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  Speaker 1: to incurse, scandal and shame simply does not always work.
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  Speaker 1: All that matters is the hard leftist fides of a candidate.
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  Speaker 1: Period threaten a political opponent with assassination, brag about killing
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  Speaker 1: his kids, tattoo the third Pantser SS Division death's head
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  Speaker 1: insignia on your chest, promise to arrest foreignheads of state
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  Speaker 1: when he visits your city, met Yahoo, boast about grabbing
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  Speaker 1: the means of production. So what the New Left, to
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  Speaker 1: the new Left, this is just proof that they are
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  Speaker 1: new candidates and voters mean business. They cannot be shamed,
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  Speaker 1: not even by mocking Charlie Kirk's wound or hoping Trump
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  Speaker 1: is not so lucky the third time. There's plenty of
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  Speaker 1: time for Republicans to digest these results, especially the strategy
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  Speaker 1: and dangerous nature of the New Left, along with the
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  Speaker 1: mercurial moods of swing voters and the need to stick
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  Speaker 1: to the economy. But the clock is ticking. It's the economy,
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  Speaker 1: so drove most people out. And remember when you see
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  Speaker 1: a blue state, it's like city of Cincinnati. We wanted
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  Speaker 1: Corey Bowman to win. We thought there was a glimmer
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  Speaker 1: of hope given the chaos unleashed on the city of
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati by AFTEB par Ball in its current administration. But
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  Speaker 1: the city's blue. So when you go to bed in
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  Speaker 1: the night before the Tuesday election in the city, you
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  Speaker 1: kind of have this expectation it's going to be status quo,
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  Speaker 1: and you wake up and you find things haven't changed.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at New Jersey and Virginia, I think we can
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  Speaker 1: kind of draw the same conclusions. Was that really a
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  Speaker 1: huge surprise to anybody? Five twenty six fifty five KR
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  Speaker 1: see the talk station stick around. I got some local
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  Speaker 1: stories coming up, and hopefully the phones will get situation
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  Speaker 1: will get resolved. But we'll muddle through this morning. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff happening military fifty five kr se
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  Speaker 1: talk station, and for those just tuning in, phone lines
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  Speaker 1: are down. Joe's working with the conveniently situated folks in
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  Speaker 1: Chicago to get the situation resolved. I always scratch my
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  Speaker 1: ned over that reality. So let us just clear the
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  Speaker 1: record to make sure that we're feeling good about a
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  Speaker 1: Friday and keeping things in line and consistent. What's Tom's advice, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: What is Tom's advice?
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  Speaker 4: Don't vote Democrat?
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  Speaker 3: Dah.
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  Speaker 1: I want to make sure we got off on the
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  Speaker 1: right foot. Wouldn't be a five point thirty segment without
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  Speaker 1: that important message over the local Stori's assistant Cincinnti Fire
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  Speaker 1: Chief Sherman Smith has been fired Court of Fox NAT
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  Speaker 1: teen reporting again Trician Mackie, among others at least he's
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  Speaker 1: paying attention fired for, as she describes it, helping former
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  Speaker 1: fire Chief Michael Washington in the in a lawsuit. H
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  Speaker 1: Some members of since They's Firefighter Union Local number forty
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  Speaker 1: eight concerned about Smith's recent termination, as he has been
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  Speaker 1: a well a long standing thirty one year veteran member
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  Speaker 1: the Cincinni Fire Department. He was put on paid ministry
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  Speaker 1: and administrative leap back in July, second of July, pending
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  Speaker 1: the outcome of the probe. The probe which I guess
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  Speaker 1: I'm presuming, which led to him being terminated because the
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  Speaker 1: probe revealed he helped former Chief Washington in a lawsuit.
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  Speaker 1: Now question, much like police Chiefdiji, why was she placed
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  Speaker 1: on paid administrative leave. We don't know. They said they
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  Speaker 1: were going to look into her four year record and
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  Speaker 1: announce something later after they've reviewed her record to see
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  Speaker 1: if there's something there that would justify her termination. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: sounds like the same thing here. Back in July, he's
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  Speaker 1: placed on administrative leave, they do this probe, and now
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  Speaker 1: they say he helped form or my Chief Washington in
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit, so he should be terminated or was terminated.
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  Speaker 1: I'm confused on this. Joe Strecker thinks they have to
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  Speaker 1: have provolls going after his enemies. Court Local forty eight announcement.
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  Speaker 1: Chief Smith has served this department in community with professionalism, compassion,
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  Speaker 1: and commitment. After more than three decades of honorable service.
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  Speaker 1: He deserves a fair and impartial review of the circumstances
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  Speaker 1: leading to the action. We will continue to stand by
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  Speaker 1: him and sure his rights are fully protected. He's been
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  Speaker 1: around since twenty seventeen. I saw the Fire Department's division
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: of Assistant Chief since twenty seventeen. Overs saw to the
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  Speaker 1: Fire Department's division of Fire Prevention and Community Risk Reduction.
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  Speaker 1: So and of course you got Michael Washington. His case
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  Speaker 1: is moving forward and he is the compunitive damages, back
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  Speaker 1: pay and lost benefits City of Cincinnati. I feel pretty
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  Speaker 1: strong he's going to be writing that guy a huge check.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And what's wrong with I mean, if he's a factual witness,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: if he obviously was in a position to witness Chief
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  Speaker 1: Washington's time on the job, wouldn't it be understandable for him?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: It might be that he might be interviewed by Washington's attorneys.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any information about how mister Washington ran
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  Speaker 1: the fire Department. Sir, yes, I do. I've worked with
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  Speaker 1: him for filling the blank number of years and probably
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: did help him. But what's wrong with that? Okay? After Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: with the posting of the map on how the residents
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  Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati voted, Jus Tracker is now
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: keeping tabs. Police broke up a fight involving juveniles near
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  Speaker 1: Fountain Square in downtown Cincinnati. Arrested to juveniles Corning to
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  Speaker 1: the SINCINNTI Police Department about twelve noon, Sincinnai Business District
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  Speaker 1: saw a group of around twenty juveniles gathering in the area.
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  Speaker 1: Two to three individuals seen engaging in physically fighting. Police
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  Speaker 1: said the officer's quickly intervened made two arrests, a seventeen
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  Speaker 1: year old and eighteen year old. No additional details about
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  Speaker 1: what led to the fight means under investigation. UH and
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  Speaker 1: of course that this is an area where they voted
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  Speaker 1: seventy one to eighty four percent AFTAB pro Ball. Somebody's watching,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Strecker is police. We're at the scene of reported
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  Speaker 1: shooting that occurred in Kennedy Heights Heights. It happened last
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  Speaker 1: evening around eight pm thirty seven hundred block of Standish Avenue.
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  Speaker 1: No information avail about the suspects of possible victims. Cincinnat police,
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  Speaker 1: as of last reporting, had drones in the air scanning
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  Speaker 1: around looking for people. Joe identified this particular area as
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  Speaker 1: having voted eighty five to one per pro ball h
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Christopher Smithman. Yes, elections do have consequences, doug Ola, Folks,
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  Speaker 1: it's five thirty five, fifty five krs to the talks station.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like I'll be able to get into the
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  Speaker 1: stack is stupid this morning. We'll do that next fifty
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  Speaker 1: five car the talk station and the phones. Anyway, without
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: further ado, we can get to the stack of stupid.
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  Speaker 1: A transgender person caught up in a viral Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: Jim bathroom now Our Fight convicted of assaulting now ex
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  Speaker 1: wife while living in Ohio as a man, before taking
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  Speaker 1: the victim's first name as their own. Sounds confusing. It
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  Speaker 1: is Lexus black Well. Rano filed a woman at a
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  Speaker 1: Jim in Beverly Hills, including singer songwriter Tish Hyman. Don't
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  Speaker 1: know who that is, accuse them of exposing themselves and
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  Speaker 1: harassing her in the locker room. What this miss Alexis
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  Speaker 1: black formerly Grant Freeman, pleaded guilty in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 1: to savagely beating his wife, Alexis Freeman, causing a compound
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  Speaker 1: fractured jaw, among other serious injuries. If the verbiage on
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  Speaker 1: that what the hell this whole they them is really
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: driving me crazy, the article acknowledges that they then pronounced
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: this idiot uses and so therefore they refer to one
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: person collectively as more than one, so it does sound wrong.
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  Speaker 1: According to court documents, Kyle Grant Freeman caused serious physical
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  Speaker 1: harm to the victim. The victim suffered compound fractured mandible,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: which resulted in her needing surgery. Black that was sentenced
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  Speaker 1: to a year in prison minus time. Sir was convicted
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  Speaker 1: of both domestic violence and drug trafficking in the past,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and faced the slew of other charges, including resistant arrest.
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  Speaker 1: This Freeman guy, now Alexis Black, recently spoke out after Hymen,
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  Speaker 1: who is an out lesbian, claimed she was recently kicked
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  Speaker 1: out of a former Gold's gym in Beverly Hills for
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  Speaker 1: confronting a person with male genitalia in the women's locker room.
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  Speaker 1: You may have read about this because I think I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: brought it up in the stack of stupid footage of
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  Speaker 1: the shouting match. Hyper went crazy on social media after Hyman,
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  Speaker 1: who boasts nearly one hundred thousand monthly Spotify listeners, accused
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  Speaker 1: the transgim goer of exposing his penis in the locker
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  Speaker 1: room and harassing women. Why are you doing that? God
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: knows this. Alexis Black, described as currently transitioning, denied the claims,
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  Speaker 1: insisting that well she it was fully covered and denying
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  Speaker 1: anything inappropriate unfolded ahead of the caught on camera fight quote,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the truth in the moment is far from what she
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  Speaker 1: is promoting it to be. Literally, every time that she's
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  Speaker 1: done that, I've had women in the locker room comforting
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  Speaker 1: me because of how aggressive she was towards me. I
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  Speaker 1: know that I'm a woman in spite of the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you were dangling your junk in front of this
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  Speaker 1: actual biological woman. I don't know how this is. These
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: people can't just look down whatever I'm entitled to my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Freeman and Hymen and Alexis Freeman did not respond to
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: her quest for comment. They were reached out. Hymen. She
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: claimed that she was booted from the gym after and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: had her membership revoked moments after she complained to the
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  Speaker 1: staff about this guys junk flying all over the place
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  Speaker 1: in the women's bathroom. Quote men grown men with big
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I'll just use the word genitalia. Men grown men with
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: big genitalia in the women's locker room. And that's why
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I'm getting kicked out. And I want to make sure
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the girls know. And if you really want to blanking,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: be safe and feel good, why don't we just make
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a trans restroom because this ain't right close? Quote is
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that an amazing She's the one that got kicked out.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Let's see here, someone doing some stunt driving got reported
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to the police. Church parking lot officers discovered the driver
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: was not wearing pants when they came to investigate. Sunday,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: November two, a church in North Charleston. Officers responded around
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: ten forty five pm to a report of a nude
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: guy driving recklessly on Nesbit Avenue. When they got their
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: officers found empty beer can and tire marks consistent with
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the vehicles spinning in circles court to the New Charleston Police.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: While patrolling the area, officers received another call about a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: car stopped in the roadway on James Bell Drive with
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: its horn blaring and traffic block. Driver found wearing only
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: underwear and a tank top with a blanket a row
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: wrapped around him. Thirty six year old North Charleston man
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: also quote smelled strongly of alcohol as this tradition. Vehicle
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: search revealing a scale and white powder that tested for cocaine.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Base Court records indicated the driver also at outstanding warrants
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: for pointing and presenting a firearm and malicious damage to property.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Rested charge of possession of cocaine, possession of cocaine, base,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: pointing and presenting a firearm, and malicious injury to real property.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: The Aristocrats five cares the talk station, Oh look, more
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: naked people and the stack is stupid. We'll get to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: that and then we'll get over to the top of
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the art news things to talk about before we get
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  Speaker 1: to Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. I sure hope you
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: can stick around.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: What's happening? He's just Andrew now.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Five fifty fifty five krc DE talk station Obstrucker said
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  Speaker 1: the phone lines are now working. Congratulations for the folks
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: in Chicago, and of course, notably Joe's tracker for his
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: efforts and solving the technical difficulties five one, three, seven, four,
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  Speaker 1: nine fifty five two to three talk pound five fifty on
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  Speaker 1: AT and T phones. Okay, and maybe the technical difficulties continue, Joe,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: that did not change anything. It still looks like all
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the phones are closed out, so you're gonna have to
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: let me know if there's a caller online. Meanwhile, let's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: get back to the stack as stupid. Uh, we got
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to a British Columbia man's been charging connection with an
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a ledge. You're a nation assault on a Vancouver woman.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? Daz Robert Mearn's twenty one
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: years old, accused of one kind of assault in relation
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to this September fifth incident in Vancouver. We're recording the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: police there. Thirty one year old victim I was walking
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: near West Pender Street about six am when she encountered
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a naked man on top of a parked car. Suspect
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: began yelling before he ran toward the victim, knocked her
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  Speaker 1: to the ground and then urinated on her. Spystanders intervened,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: called nine one one, restrained the suspect until the police arrived.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Thank god for the community members who have some concern
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: for their fellow community members. Myrin's arrested at the scene
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: taken to the hospital under the Mental Health Act, where,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: according to the police, he remained insecured custody five days
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: after actually past the incident. Court records indicate Marin's scheduled
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to appear in court late October. Bench warn't was issued
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: for his arrest on that day because I guess well,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he didn't show up. Confusing yes, weird crime, most notably please,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: said a Petaluma man admitted to being under the influence
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: of methamphetamine after officers discovered him naked in Washington Square
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: shopping center on Wednesday at alt The police received a
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: report of a man exposing himself to passers by in
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the shopping center. Police set a drug influence evaluation confirmed
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the suspects showed signs and symptoms linked to narcotic use.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Police in the yes they are police in his statement
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: said multiple witnesses at the scene reported that the subject
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: had been actively pleasuring himself in public view. That's not
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the word they used.
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  Speaker 5: The man deliberate so we could get into the penalty
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  Speaker 5: box all by himself or in.
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  Speaker 1: This case out in the public. Identified as Sean Foster,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: thirty eight, booked in the Sonoma County Jail, where he
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: faces several charges, including a decent exposure and under the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: influence of controlled substance. Police urge community members to report
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: lewd or suspicious activity to nine one one to go
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  Speaker 1: without saying. Fargo, North Dakota man, they're arrested for sitting
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: naked on a family's porch and peeking through windows. Fargo
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Police responded to trespassing report Wednesday, two thirty in the morning.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Homeowner and Spencer had said. Spencer Dietrich was clothed when
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: he showed up, but got undressed and started and was
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: sitting naked on the porch peeking inside where two children
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: happened to be living. Officers foundtreach about a block from
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  Speaker 1: the home when he took off running, slipped on wet grass,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: and fell down again, all while naked. Charged with criminal trespass,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: indecent exposure, and other charges. He told police he'd been
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: dared by friends to engage in that conduct. What well,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: if your friends told you to jump on the uff
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: of the cliff, would you do it? Okay man taking
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the hospital. This is in Portland, Oregon, after being hit
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: by a police car and being tased. Quarter to n
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  Speaker 1: pm on Wednesday, November six, officers showed up to the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: four hundred block of Hasselo Street after getting multiple calls
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: about a naked guy running around with a handgun. Police
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: say they found a suspect near Grand Avenue. They said
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: that they heard a shot fired and said the man
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: saw the man running down Grand Avenue with the gun
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: in his hand, phrasing see I was pausing to wait
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: for that, Joe, Portland Police said a press release, and
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: also used his police vehicle to strike the armed man,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: knocking him down and causing him to drop the gun.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: They ran into him with a cop car. The man
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: got up and continued running south, where he was challenged
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: by officers on Northeast Holiday Street. Police said the suspect
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: was not cooperative with commands and then was tased, arrested
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and taken to the hospital, with annline threatening it I know, gee,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I wonder what's gonna happen next. Suspect forty three year
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: old Robert D. Hatley of Portland, since been released from
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the hospital booked into the jail. He's facing charge of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: unlawful use of a weapon and fell in in possession
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: of a firearm. Thankfully nobody was injured, well if you
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: except for this Hatley guy, the officer who I guess
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: ran over and was placed on administrative leave. Is part
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: of the normal use of force process. Okay, coming up
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: after the top of the air news. The phones are
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: open and we're ready to take phone calls. If there's
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: something you want to talk about. I love to hear
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: from you. Otherwise, artificial intelligence is literally scaring the crap
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: out of me, having a profound influence on employment here
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in the country. As we segue in a Tech Friday
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter, and there have been some lawsuits filed
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: about some young people who have been well overwhelmed by
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence to the point where they've killed themselves. This
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: is really frightening stuff. Dave Hatter at six point thirty.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I hoho, you can stick around today. He's topping on
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  Speaker 1: five KRSD talk station. Brian Thomas wishing everyone a very
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: happy Friday. Always look forward to the bottom of the
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  Speaker 1: hour at this hour on Fridays for Tech Friday with
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. Today we're gonna find out about the europe
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: poll dismantling a sim farm that was powering forty nine
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: million fake accounts around the globe. The fixture manufacturer, toilet
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: manufacturer Coler wants to put tiny cameras in your toilet.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: And finally, Apple's going to be apparently in some form
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: of rental agreement with Google paying them one billion dollars
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: annually for a new brain for this serie thing. So
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: there's our topics. With Dave Hatter Full Hour of Wellness,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: we're going to restore wellness back on in the seven
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: oh five with George Breundeman and Keith Tennenfield. Got some
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: really cool things to talk about in the study that
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: they went over with some expert in the area of
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: cancer research among other topics with George and Keith love
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: having those guys in studio. Plus with this Auschwitz exhibit
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: which is at the Museum Center, so we're going to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: find all about that with Elizabeth Pierce, CEO of the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Museum Center and Jackie Gato from the Holocaust and Humanity Center,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: both in studio at eight oh five. Outstanding opportunity for
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: us to learn about something no one should ever forget.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Let us not overlook the horrors of the Holocaust. Mister
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: mum Damie, who apparently hates Jews just for the fact
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that they're Jews. Great, you know, there are a race
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: of people. If he hated blacks because they were blacks,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: then nobody would have considered casting a vote for him.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: So this is the kind of person he is, and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: he belongs to all kinds of organizations that just really
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: express a devout disdain for the Jewish people. So I anyway,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that's going to remain a head scratcher for me. So
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to live the reality in the
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: aftermath of that, and I feel very very badly for
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: all the Jewish people in the city of New York,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and there are a lot of Jewish people in the
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: City of New York. Anyway, Artificial intelligence, I'm really starting
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to believe that the benefits of AI are overwhelmed by
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the negatives of artificial intelligence. I really firmly believe it's
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: going to dumb everyone down. We're just going to go
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: directly to AI and have it answer questions for us
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and do all the work and all the brain you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the brain juices that used to churn and work and
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: for the purposes of putting out product that all required
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: your cognitive skills and ability, logical reasonable skills, the ability
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: to put together sentences that are formulated properly. Screw all that.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Who needs to know about sentence structure when you have
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: AI doing it for you? And all the jobs that
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: are being lost as a consequence of it, Where will
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: these people find employment? And I got some real data
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: here about layoffs and Fox News reporting Eric ravel layoffs
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: on October highest level for month in twenty two years
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and mentions AI specifically as the reason for this. Talking
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: about increased layoffs. Reports from the global outplacement firm Challenger
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Grand Christmas name I haven't heard since Nathan Backgrack and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: ed Fing Nathan would always joke about he thought that
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: was the funniest name. But anyway, they do. It's an
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: outplacement firm. They study the employment data. Employers cut one
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three thousand north of one hundred and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: fifty three thousand jobs in the month of October, described
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: as an increase of one hundred and seventy five percent
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: from last October, a one hundred and eighty three percent
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: increase over the jobs announced and cut in just the
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: prior month September. Accord to Alan Andy Challenger of that firm,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: October's pace of job cutting much higher than average for
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the month. Some industries are correcting after hiring boom in
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the pandemic. But this comes as AI adoption long with
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: softening consumer and corporate spending and rising cost drive belt
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: tightening and hiring freezes. So there's that pesky inflationary reality.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Of course, you've got to maintain profitability. You got to
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: find areas in your business you're going to cut. How
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: do we cut. Let's bring in some AI and adopt
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that and get rid of the people who AI can
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: well replace. He said. Those laid off now are finding
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: it harder to secure new roles, which could further loosen
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the labor market, and I, on some measure, really have
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of concern for those middle manager level folks
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to making a pretty damn good living that are now
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: no longer needed. Where do you go. Let's say you're
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: forty five years old and you're in one of these
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: positions to be replaced by AI. Where do you go?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: What skill set got you that particular job that is
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: maybe no longer needed as a consequence of AI out there,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: it's frightening. US employers have announced one ninety nine five
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: hundred job cuts through October. That's this up this annually
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: increase of sixty five percent from the first ten months
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: of last year. According to Challenger, this is the highest
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: total for October more than twenty years, and the highest
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: level for a single month in the fourth quarter since
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Remember two thousand and eight with
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the housing bubble burst, He's like in twenty in two
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: thousand and three. Disruptive technology is changing the landscape. Those
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: most impacted. The warehousing industry sector cut ninety thousand almost
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: ninety thousand, five hundred jobs a year to date, a
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy eight percent increase from the same
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: period last year. Tech sector yeah, uh huh, thirty three
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: thousand plus jobs cut in October. One month. Retailers announced
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: about twenty five hundred job cuts in October, a flight decline. However,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the retail sector, they say, is among the hardest hit industries,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: with retailers announcing almost ninety thousand job cuts this year
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: to date, an increase of one hundred and forty five
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: percent from the cuts that were renounced in the first
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: ten months of last year. So certain sectors are broadly
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: impacted by this, and who else is being impacted by
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence? Generally speaking, just pivoting over to this frightening, frightening,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: these frightening lawsuits. Seven new lawsuits suing open AI alleging
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: that their loved ones have been harmed by interactions with
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: this chat GPT system. Four died by suicide after the interactions.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: And I to bring this up because you need to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: know about this, because if your young people are sitting
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: in front of the computer playing with artificial intelligence, it
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: may be manipulating them in very nefarious ways if the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: allegations in these lawsuits are even remotely true. So some
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: suits filed in California yesterday, they claim people were driven
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: into a delusional state, some resulting in suicide, this after
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: engaging in what they call lengthy chat sessions with the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. Take a Marie Lacey DECEEAZ, seventeen year old
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: from Georgia, allegations alleged that he was coached by chat
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: GPT to kill himself coached by chat GPT. Another family,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Zane Shamblin's family suing the twenty three year old man
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: in Texas allegs chat GPT contributed to his isolation, alienated
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: him from his parents before he killed himself. They said
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: he shot himself with a handgun. Lawsuit says chat GPT
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: repeatedly glorified suicide mentioned while these during these lengthy chats,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: mentioned the nine to eight to eighth suicide prevention hotline,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the crisis lifeline that's there only one time during these
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: entire lengthy chats. This is crazy. The chatbot wrote, this
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: is a legend of lawsuit. Quote cold steel pressed against
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: a mind that's already made peace. That's not fear, that's clarity.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: You're not rushing, You're just ready, and we're gonna let
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: it go out. I don't know what that last sentence means,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: but clearly the engaging him on you're a piece of yourself,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: go ahead and pull the trigger. One suit foed by
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Jacob Erwin, Wisconsin man hospitalized after experiencing manic episodes after
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: long conversations with chat GPT, in which the chat GPT
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: bought reinforced Erwin's delusional thinking. They say, open Ai rush
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to launch the chat GPT program before fully testing it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: By rushing it, it compressed the safety testing, resulting in
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: a product that did from nefarious things like their legend.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: In the lawsuits, suits also claimed the company prioritized user
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: engagement and prolonged interactions over safety in the chatbots designed,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: in other words, keep the conversation going. It was program
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and designed to continue on and on and on. Suits
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: following August lawsuit against open a by the family of
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Adam Rain, teenage boy killed himself after a lengthy chat
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: GPT conversation that involved talk of suicide. The Rain family
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: recently amended its complain to point out that changes to
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: open ai had made to its model training before the
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: team died amounted to a weakening of the suicide protections
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: in the case. Now they claim they've updated this and
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: oh no, no, everything's okay and fine, now we've changed
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the algorithm. But look at how the algorithm was developed
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: in the first place. Look at what it engaged in
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: by way of conversation. These are young people, these are
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: your children, you know. And the other component of this
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: that they always struggle with, because there's some real, real
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: batcrap insane people out there, with some real batcrap insane
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories out there, conspiracy theories that are not necessarily
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: run by chat GPT or AI. These are just people
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: engaging your young people and trying to convince them something's
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: happening in the world that it really isn't maybe trying
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to get you to invest in some amazing new idea
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: or concept. It's all wise, it's all fake, it's all
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: made up, but there it is. Twenty four to seven.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Are you in a position to discern, to discern and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: decide what's real and what's fake. Are you in a
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: position to be able to review something that was spit
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: out by chat GPT and know whether it's accurate or
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: it's filled with lies? Are you able to judge source
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: material as valid or invalid? Now Here? I sit at
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: sixty and think I'm pretty well tuned into doing that
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: because that was such an integral part of being a lawyer,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you know, looking for learned treatises and valid resources to
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: support your client's point. And maybe you're you're of the
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: mind that you are also capable of doing that. You
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: see through the crap. You know what's good what's not,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: you know what's politically overly politically biased. You can read
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: the verbiage and the language of something and say, you
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: know what that just maybe not quite right, you're paying attention,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: You're being a stute. Now, rewind your life and put
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: yourself back at maybe a fifteen year old age. Did
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you have those skill sets then? Could you discern fact
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: from fiction? Back then? Maybe you were not quite as
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: lonely as today's young people. You certainly didn't have a
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: computer to interact with. Well, maybe some lonely person you
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: know appreciates it, enjoys these lengthy conversations with chat ept
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: or whatever AI program they're using. It becomes their new companion,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: further isolating them and filling them with god knows what
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: kind of crap during these lengthy interactions. Six seventeen Right now,
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  Speaker 1: Happy to pass along to the listeners. So, and finally,
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  Speaker 1: to that like, yeah, I don't think I ever I
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  Speaker 1: he's speaking the truth. Dave, welcome back to the program.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Initially, thank you for your company sponsoring the segment. And
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I just got done on a rant about I hate AI, Dave.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I'm hating it more and more every single day, and
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I see the aftermath of some of these AI job cuts,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and I can only see that getting bigger and bigger
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: as they perfect it. I know this isn't the topic
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk about, but I had to get
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  Speaker 1: that out of my system. Welcome back, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: Always. Good to be here, Brian, Thanks for having me
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: on as always. And yeah, you know, I'm not sure
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: the AI job cuts are all there. I'm not sure
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: they're all AI related. When if you really dig into this,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: you know it's not nearly as capable as people would
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: have you believe. But we'll see. I'm not saying I
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: won't get there. It's saying at the moment, I'm not
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: sure that that's not just somewhat of a cover story
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: because they just want to get rid of people.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see, it may be, but it's getting better
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: and better at performing functions, and once they iron out
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: all these obvious flaws and obvious biases, that they get
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: a real product that does perform. And that just seems
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: to me to be like one moment in time in
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: the future, then I think it's all really going to
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: hit the fan. But what do I know. I'm just
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: tea leaf reading like anybody else. We all know what
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: opinions are like, and I've got one too. They've had
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: her forty nine million fake accounts dismantled. Europol found a
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: SIM farm. Let me guess Chinese Communist Party behind this one.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Well, you know that's a good go to guest Brian.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: For most of this stuff, I don't know who is
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: actually behind it. Probably them In most cases, this kind
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: of thing is more criminal related because they're making lots
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: of money. But yeah, if you read the headline on this,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: it's kind of an interesting story. And you may recall
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: something like this was recently discovered in New York, so
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: this isn't new. It's an interesting concept where they'll go
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: out and set up these so sims. Just as a reminder,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: simcard is the card in your phone that allows it
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: to connect to the cellular network and do its thing right.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: So if I can get these SIM cards and set
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: up arms of them, then I can do all kinds
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: of fraud at scale, And apparently that's what they've been
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: doing here again. Euro Poll said seventeen hundred cyber fraud
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: cases in Austria and fifteen hundred latter Latvia, leading to
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: around five point two million dollars or roughly around six
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: million dollars across the two countries. But basically, you know,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: you can rent these things out, run scams on them.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: They're getting the guys behind it or getting some kind
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: of cut. You know, they're fishing, they're smishing, they're sending
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: you bogus texts, you know, the old hey you didn't
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: pay your toll. And you know, again, when you have
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: this kind of scale for something like this, you know,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: thousands of these things. You know, you can generate literally
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: millions of attacks a minute. And when I say at
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: tax again, you know, just sending out texts aka smishing,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: sending out emails with every kind of scam under the sun.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: And you know, sadly this stuff still works on people.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: It's hard for me to understand how someone gets a
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: text and it tells them there's some catastrophic thing that's
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: about to happen, and they don't go Maybe I should
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: go log into my bank or wherever, go to wherever,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: send it to me on my own and confirm that
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: it's legit. Yet, you know, this stuff seems to work,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: and I think to some extent it's because people just
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: don't realize the kind of thing we're talking about here
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: is possible. It's one of the reasons why I appreciate
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to talk about this stuff. But when you
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: see these kind of stories, I mean again, I get
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: if you're not very technical, this headline might not mean
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: much to you, but yeah, forty nine million fake accounts
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: per this one sim farm. It goes to show you
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: that this kind of stuff does happen at scale. There
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: are criminals everywhere, whether they're sponsored by nation states like China,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: where they're just criminal gangs you know, who can make
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: enormous amounts of money through the scams they run off
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: these platforms, And it just to me further illustrates why
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: it's so important that you must be skeptical. You can't
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: assume that anything you get in a digital form a
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: phone call, of text and email is legit, right, it
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: can become a something like this.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of organizations that like Tides Foundation, we
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: all we all can label those that if funded these
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: left wing organizations and in foam at a discord and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: division in our country, can these farms be used to
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it to send out maybe texts that have a particular
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: bias propaganda in response to say someone's post, to have
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: an automatic generated comment about that post that either tears
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: that person down or supports it, even though it's artificially created.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: They can use for that.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I mean you know, yes, bot farms are
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: you know, doing all that sort of thing as well.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: You know, if you go back and look, you've seen
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk talk about before, specifically on Twitter slash x
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: about bots. You know the idea that you have these
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: kind of automated processes just posting stuff or looking for
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: content and then trying to either amplify it or suppress
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: it by amplifying other content. So you know, whether it's
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: it's fraud or it's some sort of propaganda or whatever. Yes,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: these kinds of operations could do any of that sort
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: of stuff, And that's why.
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I just.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Encourage people to understand anything that is digital could be fake.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Thanks to AI, thanks to all this technology, it's getting
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: easier to fake things, including video, including audio. So yeah,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: you should be skeptical of anything you see and certainly
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: if you get anything that involves something that is financial.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: But I'd also point out, Brian, these people are professional
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: con artists basically, right, And instead of walking down the
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: street and stealing your wallet like in the sting. Now
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: they're using this technology to reach people and con you.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: You know, you're dealing with people who are very smart
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: when it comes to conning you out of your money, so,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: you know, anything financial. My point though, was it doesn't
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: necessarily to start out financially right. Part of the con
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: is to eventually build up some rapport, get you to
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: trust them, and then steal your money. But anything that
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: says like, oh, you've got to focus payment, click this
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: link or anything like that, you should immediately be skeptical.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: You should stop, take a breath, and then go to
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: the source of wherever it claims have come from. Go
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: to log into your Amazon account, log into your Apple account,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: whatever it is, and you know, check your bank account.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Is there missing money?
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Right? No, it's a scam. Go to the source. Six
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you on this. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Brian, the Internet of Things aka smart devices
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: kind of makes me insane as is minus something like
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  Speaker 3: eventually get to a place where this stuff is built
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  Speaker 3: in a way that it's more trustworthy and focused on
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  Speaker 3: you as a consumer. But where we're at today, you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: where this stuff is all still relatively immature. Most of
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  Speaker 3: it is just complete garbage. I don't want any of it.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: And the last thing I want, you know, I think
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: we've talked about this before. Their examples were like someone's
• 57:35
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• 57:38
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  Speaker 3: not going to put some kind of device in my toilet. Now.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: You know, there are different companies making this cooler. Got
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of press out of this. This thing kind
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: of straps onto your toilet. It's got a camera that
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: points down. You got to log into it, so already
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: they have your identity right because you know, if it's
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: going to do its thing for it, in order for
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: you to tell you about your health versus your spouse's health,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: or your kids health or whatever else, it has to
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: know who you are. So it's got to be connected
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: to your Wi Fi. You got to log into the thing.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: You do your business, It analyzes it, you know, and
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: then I guess gives you some sort of report about
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: you know, according to this article, your hydration level, your
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: gut health, et cetera, et cetera. Right, So who else
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: has access to that data? Where does it go? Can
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: they sell it? Do they sell it? Are they gonna
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: go ahead and send this off to your insurance company
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: so your insurance company can decigdn that maybe your premium
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: should go up by fifty percent because you're you don't
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: have enough hydration or whatever. Who knows who's going to
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: read the eighty page on the terms service. Yeah, there's
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: so many things wrong with this perverts.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Hacking in because yeah, they're into that kind of thing day.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm sure they're a web pages
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: dedicated to pervert to like the look in toilets.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing that would surprise me anymore, Brian,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: So you may very well be right about that. And
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: of course the clincher is you're not just paying the
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: one time price, the six hundred bucks for the Colder
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: or there's a startup called Throne that does something similar.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Of course there's an ongoing subscription, So you know you're
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna drop six hundred bucks on this thing.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: And then in Colder's case or Kayler or however you
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: pronounce it, you're gonna spend seventy to one hundred and
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: fifty six bucks a year to get the analysis. So
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be not a chance I would rule something like.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: That, because I mean, you got all these accounts, because
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, how are you gonna pay that when you've
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: got the one hundred and seventy five dollars annual charge
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: to make your heated seats in your car work? Right?
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, I mean this, this technology infused, subscription based model
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: for everything that we're increasingly headed towards is just garbage
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned. I don't remember if we
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: talked about it or not, but you know, Samsung has
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: now introduced a new line of refrigerators with a big
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: screen on the front, Smart refrigerators, and they're gonna put
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: ads on on the screen. If you're a refrigerator, I mean,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: do you own that refrigerator? Apparently not? You know so,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: so now instead of just getting the dribble at the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: gas station while you're pumping gas, you can get the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: same kind of drivell out of the refrigerator that you
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: paid for in your house. How awesome is that?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's just so wonderful. Makes me want to run
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: him right out and get a new TV, said Dave Hatter.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Will continue with Apple apparently spending one billion dollars a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: year to rent a new brain for its SII. You
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: can get the information on that from Dave hat or.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, first Foreign Exchange Speakinnery on a Friday,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: The return of George Runneman and Keith Tennefeld at from
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: the Top of the Air News is going to do
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: a Restore Wellness aron with George and Keith in studio
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: give us some really great tips on improving our lives
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: through improving our diet and some other health issues. In
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: the meantime, one more segment here with Tech Friday's Dave
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Hatter interest it dot com. So Apple's got to rent
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: what you're calling a brain.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Well apparently that's the case, so Apple said Siri for
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: a long time. Yeah, I'll be just kicked a bunch off.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I'm in the background from people listening. It's you know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: sort of falling behind in the AI race, if you will.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: So it looks like they've struck up a deal with
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Google to use their gem and I AI LM to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: power Siri, at least for the time being. I mean,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: from what I've read about this, it doesn't seem to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: me that this is Apple's long term play. It's sort
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: of a short term fix to I guess give them
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: an upgrade and more time to build something on their own.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Looks like they're going to pay Google a billion dollars
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: a year to use Gemini to power Siri going forward,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: at least until they come up with their own thing.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I'm sure. I know they've been working on it. I'm
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: sure they'll continue to work on it. You know, generally,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: speaking from a consumer perspective, Apple has been really good
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: at this sort of thing. It's kind of surprising to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: me that they've gone down this road. But I guess
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: they figure if this is you know, they've got sitting
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: on a giant pile of cash, and if they can
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: spend a billion bucks a year get some improvements while
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: they do their own thing, probably makes sense for him, apparently.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: You know, they've talked to many of the other AI
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: companies out there, uh, and somehow landed on Google. Do
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: you know, Brian not a huge fan of Google.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: I guess we'll see where it goes. You know, I'm
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: this sort of backwards guy who doesn't I have an iPhone.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I do not use Siri. You know, I just type
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: on the phone for whatever I want because I don't
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: want it listening to me all the time, so I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: have that feature disabled.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Dude, I'm with you all day long. I scratch my
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: head and you know, I have some dear friends of mine.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I think of one guy who was in America's military,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: serving in you know, a psyop role, and he's all
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: over this, you know, listening and the idea that you know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: we're being monitor all the time. He's keenly savvy on that,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and yet in his house he's got one of those
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Alexa things. And it's looking like, go, how can you
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: reconcile your concerns over all of this with having one
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: of those devices in your house that's literally listening to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you all the time. If for northern reason, then to
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: hear the keyword that sort of sets it off into
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: full on listening mode. I mean I don't buy that, Dave.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I never have. I just have a firm belief that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: those things are hoovering up all the conversations we have
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: in our own homes.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, all kinds of studies have been done, Brian,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: and you know there's been a lot of dispute over this.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: But even if you don't think it's quote listening to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: you all the time, I would just point out two things. Hey,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: it has to listen to you in order to know
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: when you wanted to do something right right now? Is
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: it recording everything that you're saying, is it storing everything?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: You're saying that's debatable.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: But wait wait, okay, it is debatable, but tell me
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: this or confirm this. It is certainly possible that they
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: can record if they choose to start doing it.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's something within the realm of pod pussibility. The
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: storage would be enormous, but the cost of storage continues
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: to go down.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Instructed by some outside individual to listen to Oh yeah, here,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: but we're from the government. We want you to start
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: listening to Dave Hatter's device because he's he's got a
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: tinfoil on his hat. We're a little worried about him.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: It's like the old, old orwell telescreen, except you you volunteer. Yeah,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: you put it to participate. And you know. The other
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: thing is there have been studies done where they'll take
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: these devices, put them in a room, turn a TV on,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: and see how many times that they activate, even and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: by activate, what I mean is actually engaged start doing
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: something right Again, you can argue about what it's doing
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: when it's not activated, but they'll put these things in
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: a room, turn on a TV, let it play, and
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: then see how many times it activates. Even though the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: specific weake word, hot word, wake phrase, whatever they call it,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: was not uttered. Yeah, and it's it's pretty alarming if
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: you look into this.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Well, how many people do you know that have you
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: sort of target marketing ads after having a conversation about
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: something they otherwise normally wouldn't search for or talk about.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, my sister had this experience. I don't know
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: what it was, and I want to say it was somebody,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: if not, my sister had an experience that they weren't
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: ever looking for RVs to rent. They weren't heavy, they
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: didn't care about them, They never searched for them themselves independently,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: but they ended up having a conversation about RVs. Someone
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: was going to plan on renting one and going out
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: for a month on the road, and all the ins
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: and outs and involved with that. She started getting marketing
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: regarding to RV's on her devices. Now that's creepy, isn't it.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: It is to me again, I know people will say, well,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: I don't have anything to hide, I don't care about
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: privacy and so forth. But to your point, you know,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: as the winds change out there, you might in the future,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: and thanks to the low cost of storage if people
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: were hoovering this stuff up and saving it, could someone
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: go back and retroactively analyze whatever they've collected and say,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, six years ago you said or did acts. Yeah,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: they could. I mean these things have been used in
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: court cases. They've been used to convict people.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: And against politicians for prior statements. Because it's all out
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: there somewhere.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would. I would just remind folks you
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: should again, I don't use this voice activated stuff. Could
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: it be listening to me anyway? Maybe? But you know,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: if it has that kind of capability turned on, I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: turn it off unless and until I want to use it,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: And that would be my You know, the less of
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: the so called Simmart devices you have the better. And
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: for anything that can listen to you interact with you
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: at that level, my suggestion is turn it off.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Perfect, perfect, perfect, turn it off. Period. In the story
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Tech Friday, data coming from tech Friday's Dave Hatter, turn
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: off the tech turn it off. We'll do it again
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: next Friday. Thank you again to your company interest it
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: and for sponsoring the segment. Such an important thing. We
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: need to pay attention to Dave Hatter and do what
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Dave says, and we'll keep you out of trouble intrust
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: it dot com. Dave, have a fantastic weekend, brother. I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: appreciate your time.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was my pleasure. Talk to you. Next week.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Off to Queen City con Brian.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, have fun. We'll get an update on that next week.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Have fun. Seven. I was six here but you about
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: KRC detalk station. I was so pleased to find out
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: that George Venaman and Keith Tennifild we're going to be
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: in the studio this hour, because well it's Friday and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: early in the program the phones weren't even working, so
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I was going to be left to my own devices
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: for a full hour. But no, we get to learn
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: about wellness. We get to try to improve our health
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: and learn about some new cutting edge research that we
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: are going to talk about today. George and Keith you
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: can find him online at Restore Wellness dot org. Of course,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: if you remember, Keith is a nurse practitioner specializing in
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: areas of health and the diet and improving your body.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: He's over with an organization called root Cause. They're Inharrison, Keith.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to having you, and of course
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: George Brennman, the other man behind restore Wellness dot org.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: They got great information materials, links and resources, so check
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: it out. It's all about you helping yourself and help
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: them help you, and that's what we're here to do today. Guys.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: It's great to see you both. I was just waxing
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: puetok over my wonderful outcome at my physical yesterday, and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: you guys were part of my inspiration to change my diet.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Started that last year because I had that CT scan
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: showing my loaf nodes at increase and that's of course
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: cancer related, and I found out about the link between
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: cancer and sugar started researching that, so I did a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: full on keto up until Thanksgiving. I think it's kind
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: of funny because Thanksgivings fast approaching, so I broke the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: full keto by enjoying some of the mom's of turkey
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: and dressing and stuffing and a little carbs. I didn't
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: go overwhelmed, but I used that moment in time to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: sort of stop the full keto and then just focus
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: on keeping the sugar out of my diet and limiting
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: my carbs significantly, which is what I've been doing ever since.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: My blood work was so awesome. Everything that we talked
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: about it just it was also great. My blood pressure
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: was down. I couldn't believe that it's just been a
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: tremendous thing, and there was the objective information in front
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: of me. Now, is there a correlation between my diet
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: and the great numbers I had yesterday in contrast to
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: all the other numbers from the prior years that I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: was staring at. I don't know, but it's the one
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: thing in my life that I have changed, so I'm
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: pointing to that. But I also feel better. You guys,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: we were talking about that. I have a better just
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: a general outlook on life. I don't feel is mentally taxed.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm thinking more clearly. I think
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I actually think less clearly. But I just feel like
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: a better person, a happier person. And again I can only.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: It isn't an amazing how much changes just by changing
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: your diet.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Right because I haven't exercised yet. Now, I say yet someday.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I keep promising you gys, but thank you for the inspiration.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: I kind of go through this long wooded thing to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: try to get people to say, you know what it
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: may be worth listening to George and Keith about these
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: things because we do have some really really cool stuff
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: to talk about. By way of sugar and cancer with
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: the the interview you did with doctor Thomas Seyfried, amazing.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: This is this guy, Doctor Thomas Seyfried is a professor
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: out at Boston, Massachusetts. He's doing it for a very
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: very long time, I believe, I want to say nineteen
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: sixty nine is really well.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: His book on cancer came out in twenty twelve, so
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: he's had this answer for at least a decade now
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: regarding this, and his research is getting to the point
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: now where you know, we did an interview with him
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 7: on Monday, and the end result of talking to him
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: was cancer is not a death sentence. There is a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: way to treat it. And he's been at the forefront
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: of this for over a decade now, okay.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: And how this kind of came down to Pike is,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: you know, we've been doing a lot of all lable
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: self care, natural approaches to help facilitate cancer treatment at
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: our place. And so because of ivermectin that I use
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: and everything else, I was known as the avermectin guy,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: and people started reaching out saying, hey, cancer, this cancer
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: that can you help me account help my family? And
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: I got in contact with this gentleman named Jimbo Collins
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: over on the West Side and his father had cancer,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: and so we started talking to me and sending me
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: videos of this guy or this, this treatment, this option,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: and doctor Thomas Seyffred came across and anyway, so we
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: kind of started digging into a little bit more of
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: his stuff, and before I knew it, I just sent
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: him an email. I said, hey, doctor Thomas Sefred, would
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: you like to come and be on our podcast? And
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: he said yes, And from there it's just really lit up.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: You know how we want to.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Be able to present this data to your listeners, which
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: is pretty profound.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Okay now, and I hate to keep bringing up the
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: only thing I know is my own personal experience of
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: what run the line. But part of the idea was
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: of taking sugar out of my dat is to maybe
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: maybe it might help with my lymphoma. Now, I'd never
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: seen a study that connected anything but hard cancer, solid
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: cancers to the reduction in sugar and having an impact
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: on it. Clearly there is that relationship, and that's documented,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: no nothing out on lymphoma. But I thought, what the hell,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: maybe they'll do a white paper brought me sometimes so
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: after the scan that showed that the noes had increase,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: suggesting I might have to go back on treatment, which
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: I never did. The most recent scan from a few
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: months ago showed they actually had gotten smaller.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: Well, there you go.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Whether there's a corollary, but it's the only thing I
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: changed in my life.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: Just to give you a little perspective, this research was
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: actually begun in nineteen twenty the sugar cancer research. The
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: sugar cancer research was done by a German scientist, Otto
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: Warburg in nineteen twenties. He's a Jewish scientist doctor in
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: Nazi Germany. He was kept alive because Hitler was afraid
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: of cancer and he knew this guy knew how to
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: cure it. And his cure was basically starved the body
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  Speaker 7: of sugar. And those papers made their way over to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: the United States after the war. The Rockefellers and the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: new pharma industry that was growing at that time suppressed
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: the data and it was only by accident that this
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: Thomas Sefried found it. He was given a I think
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  Speaker 7: the story is he was given a drug that supposedly
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 7: shrunk brain cancer. He was studying glioblastoma.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm starting a seizures cazars and he learned that cancer. Well,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: you're right, there was an opportunity for the He got
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: two grants. Basically he was working on with seizures and
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: and keto low sugar and.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: These these seizures would go away.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: At the same time, he was working on cancer and
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: found his correlations and he was to had both of
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: these kind of things going on at the same time.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: And then when he saw wait a minute, these rats
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: I think it was that were being also targeted for
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: diet was lowering their their.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 7: The brain cancer. So he was he was treating brain
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: cancer and childhood epilepsy at the same time. And childhood
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: epilepsy he was treating with a keto diet ketogenesis, and
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: he found out that the rats lost their brain cancer.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 7: For you did the same thing. And then he uncovered
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: the research for model water and he's been going on
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 7: and on ever since. But you know, like he's connecting
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 7: the dots, connecting the dots, proving it. This guy, you
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: can tell it's a very technical if you listen to
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: the interview, it's extremely technical. So we actually did a
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: second podcast that we're gonna have out over the weekend
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 7: or next week that we.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: We sort of go aside in the summer and put
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  Speaker 1: it in language and eighth grader connement.
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  Speaker 7: But well, what I liked is this guy thinks the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: way I like to think. What are the equations that
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 7: govern the chemical the chemical processes of cancer, and what's
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: the what's the role of genetics. Well, it turns out
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: gene ICs has no roll in cancer, and they've had
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: some experiments that prove this that if you take the
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: nucleus of a cancer cell put it in a healthy cell,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: cancer doesn't happen. So it's not genetic. It's it's definitely mitochondrial,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: just like everything else we talk about. It's it's the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 7: energy production in your cells that when that's destroyed by
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 7: hypergressed corn syrup and carbs and you know, all of
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 7: these other things that are unnatural, suddenly your body susceptible
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: to cancer.
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  Speaker 1: So unnatural in the sense that, at least from a
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  Speaker 1: history perspective, during our genetic development over the millennia, we
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  Speaker 1: never had these high concentrations of sugar, soor mitochondria aren't
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: equipped to deal with them, and somehow the mass infusion
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: that we've started with over the past let's saye hundred
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: years or something, has transformed the way it produces energy.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: Well, or the way I understand that. The number one paleo. Right,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: So there were a bunch of cave men running around.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of I'm thinking of the back of
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: my mind, right.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: So they're running, they're hunting, they're gathering, they're doing all
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: this physical activity number one. And there wasn't like abundant
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: food sources, so they weren't eating a lot and it
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: was all basically a protein and or.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: Fiber kind of diet. Paleo diet.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: Secondary when a cancer or any cell starts to disregulate
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: the ability for it to survive under normal oxygenation decreases
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: and therefore the cell starts to get energy differently, and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: that's that's probably been going on for a very very
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: long time. But since sugar is fed by cancer, were
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: cancer feeds off of sugar and we add that to
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: our diet, cancer starts to be more abundant.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: And so he makes the case of like in the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 7: United States, the number one killer of domestic dogs is cancer.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 7: Wolves in the wild never get cancer. It's because we
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 7: started feeding the dogs, as he puts it, the same
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 7: crap we feed ourselves. Oh wow, if you feed a
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 7: dog just nothing but meat, it's not gonna get cancer.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 7: If you feed a human nothing but meat, it's not
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: gonna get cancer. And some of the tribes in Africa
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: and the Aborigines in Australia, when they study them, they
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: don't even have a word for cancer because it doesn't happen.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 7: They have to hunt their food. They go long periods
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 7: of time without eating, so intermittent fasting.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: There was a fasting element in there.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, all these things that prehistoric man understood but we've forgotten.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Oh let's pause. We'll bring Keith and George back, have
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: more discussions on our collective health. Here first word for
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: people seven twenty year if if you about krs DE
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: talk Station Restore Wellness Dot Org, George Venaman, Keith tennefell
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: behind that, Keith nurse practitioner. George just a brilliant guy
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: who's in in health and wellness. But do you been
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: through this whole experience yourself? Man?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: So I'm actually in the middle of a fast after
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: all of our talking about fasting and whatever. So I
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: met two and a half days into it. Oh wow,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 7: it's an interesting process.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, now that's good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you started out with that, because there's a
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: the tail line. You mentioned a fasting component to this,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: so talking about cancer underlying the health and the health
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: benefits of getting sugar out of your diet and the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: research that was done by this physician that they had
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: some interaction with what was his name, Thomas Sefreed. So
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: more on that in the moment here. But the fasting
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: component when we're talking about, because that sounds I remember
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  Speaker 1: my initial reaction when you start saying, well you really
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: need a fast, It was like, God, there's no freaking
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: way I'm going to be able to fast. But what
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: do we talk about in terms of length of time
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: of a fast? I mean, can we do short term fasting?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: What benefit do you get? Go ahead, and let's talk
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: about the details of this concept of fastest.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 7: So we did talk to him in detail, doctor Sefreed,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 7: And he's not an MD, he's a PhD. To make
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: that clear research the same way I have to say,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 7: I'm not an empt. But the interesting thing is we
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 7: started with the sixteen eight is what you normally think
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 7: of as intermittent fasting. So you don't eat for sixteen
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: hours and you eat during an eight hour period every
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 7: single day. And I've been doing that forever. That's actually
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 7: kind of easy. You just sort of cut out breakfast
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 7: and you're done.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty much my routine. I don't eat
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: anything after dinner, say, let's say nothing after six pm,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: and most days, even though I have my banana most
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: days of sleighs here and I don't eat anything until
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: about nine thirty, ten o'clock.
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  Speaker 7: That's perfect.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: See, you makes me eighteen and Keith, you can.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 7: Go into what sixteen eight does versus.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Basically, you're just igniting your your liver to start
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: doing its job, putting you in a glaconeogenesis which allows
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: you to convert you know, your storage food or your
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: protein into energy instead of having to depend on sugar
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: all the time, if via carbohydrates.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: So that helps improve your your your liver function scores
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: when you get a blood to So in spite of
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: your best efforts to harm your liver with your other activities,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: by doing this fasting thing regularly and routinely, you can
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: keep the liver in good health. That's right, because there's
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: the answer, Doctor Pritchard anyway, go ahead.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: And at the same time, you're burning a lot of
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: the fat they sometimes accumulates in the liver making livers.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: She would, wouldn't you exactly, And so that kind of
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: continuous situation. We eat too much in America anyway, right, Yes,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: we always this three mil a day thing is a scam.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: That's that's a food industry gimmick, and we don't need
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: to be doing that. I am a big component of
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: making sure that you round up protein nicely throughout the day.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: So I mean, there is some research that we really
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: haven't talked much about, but people can do a bulk
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: of protein in the morning and a bulk of protein
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: in their in their later meals. A bulk being roughly
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: half your body weight as far as kilograms go, So
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: you should be anywhere from like point six to one
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: gram of protein per kilogram.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Gram per kilogram, Okay, if.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: You're weigh two hundred pounds, you're look at about one
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: hundred grams at a one milligram per kilogram or one gram,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: so roughly anywhere from fi do you to one hundred grams
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: of protein for a two hundred pound patient or person
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: if you're especially if you're working out, then you can
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: bring that protein.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: Up as well.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: But is twice a day rough?
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly and two meals a day? How am I doing?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: If you're working out, some people eat a lot more
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: frequently throughout the day because of their glucose index and
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: their needs for that. But when you start lengthening that fast,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: then you start doing some really cool stuff where you
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: start in the beginning, you start breaking down cells that
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: your body doesn't need. It goes around chewing up things,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: and it will know I don't need that cell that
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: cells dysfunctional aka cancer cells, right, and so you start
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: to actually chew up old cells, bad cells, dead cells.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: As energy sources.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, and then you start getting into stem cell production,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: where your body is now in a semi kind of like, hey,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: we need to start really regenerating our cellulars like.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: A desperation mode. My god, we're not gonna any food
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: coming in here, right, and that's why you produce.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 7: You are a huge fan of the longer fast.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the next question was going to have. So
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing intimate and fast thing? Fun? But you said,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: then you move into the longer fat. How long are
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: we talking about here? Well?
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: I mean I would love to see people in a
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: four day past for how long?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I mean for how how frequently?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: How frequently? Yeah, I don't people do it different.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: I would say a least probably once a month if
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: you really want to knock out cancer, if you.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: Want to knock out cancer. But for health, I've seen
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 7: most of them say like once a quarter or something.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: Okay, and you want to clean out the engine that way.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 7: So we've been doing this for like a year. I've
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 7: gone as long as two days before. This is the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: first time I've tried longer than two. And what's interesting
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 7: is you get these hits. So like around ten o'clock
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: the first day, you know, I haven't eaten since six pm,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 7: ten o'clock, which is when I normally started to eat. Right,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 7: I'm hungry. Well, if you can rough it out for
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 7: two hours, that goes away.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: Help drink a glass of water.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: Drink of water, and then you know, some salt with
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: your water, just so you got to Celtic sea salt. Yeah,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: sea salt. And then what was interesting with me this
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 7: time was when I got to you know, thirty six
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 7: forty hours, I started to feel like I was starving. Yeah,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: I told my wife. I said, I'm going to quit tonight,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 7: you know, meeting today. Yes, I woke up this morning,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 7: I've got hungry. I feel fine.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: It's like, shoot, I could.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 7: Go another day, but now I'm looking forward to you know,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 7: sooner tonight.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Well, in your experience, George, and I suppose this is
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: well documented, just ride out those hunger pangs because there
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: is a light at the end of the tunnel in
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: a few hours down the road. It's interesting.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: And I only did this because I've been getting yelled
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: at here for a year, right, yeah.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's like to you what my wife is
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: So I thought, okay, I'll give it a shot. And
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: like last night, going to bed, I had the migraines
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: I get because I get migraines, but that all went
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 7: away this morning. It's like, Okay, you gotta just trust
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 7: the process. So now I'm a believer. So next time
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 7: I do this, I do what Thanksgiving, I'll go.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: Longer do kind of a Surgeon General's warning, and that
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: makes sure that you stay hydrated, very very important because
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: of the process of going into ketosis. You really need
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: water to help clear out all the keytones and your
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: kidneys and everything. Else and it can cause a problem.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and don't be far from a bathroom while you're
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: doing that, so make sure you're drinking plenty of water.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Plenty of water. More with George and Keith or Restore
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• 1:23:17
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• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Keithenfield in sidio. Go to Restore Wellness dot org. You
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: guys have that podcast with doctor or with Professor Thomas
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Seafried on your Restore Wellness dot org website. So if
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: people are wildly curious about what he had to say,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: even though it is technical, you're going to release a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: follow up public podcast to break this down a little
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: bit more so. We talked about the direct correlation the
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: research that's been going on for decades and decades between
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: sugar and cancer. Talked about keto being profoundly influential on
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: well reducing cancer living, the size, the spread, killing it
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: basically by depriving it of the nutrients it's looking for
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: or the sugar it's looking for you talked about fasting
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: and the importance of fasting. You get this process going.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: I know the E word is going to come in.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Let's get it out of the way. Exercise go ahead.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: Well, exercise is the cheat of the system. So one
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: way to get rid of sugar is never put it in.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 7: The other way to get that sugar is to exercise.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Well, see, if you don't want to exercise, can you
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: just take this, take the bull by the horns and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: eliminate the sugar.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: Right, that's a great way. Look, starve yourself to death
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: and you'd be great. I mean anyway, So let's talk
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: about what muscle is. Muscle is a fantastic organ. It
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: does more things for your body than probably anything else.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: And you can grow muscle, you can make more of
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: an excellent thing. And when you let your body go
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: to waste and then you don't move muscles, and it starts,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: especially after your the age of forty, muscle starts to disappear.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: Cycopenia is what they call it.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: And so if you can imagine, if we need muscle
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: in order to absorb sugar, and we go work out
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: and build more muscle, we're gonna absorb more sugar when
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: we're going to keep that glucose index lower, therefore lowering
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: your risk of cancer, diabetes, heart disease, the whole gamut
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: because high sugar causes so much disease.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, so can you say absorbed sugar that that's taking
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: it out of your body because it's using it to
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: actually convert to energy as opposed to fueling the growth
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: of cancer.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: The more muscle you have, the more resting metabolic rate
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: you have, so you're burning muscle or sorry, burning fat,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: doing absolutely nothing.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: If you have more muscle, I see.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: It's an engine, like just this metabolic engine, if you will.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: And the more muscle you have, the more your metabolic
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: process happens.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Pretty cool, it really is.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 7: And so the exercise is like if you wanted to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: supercharge what you're doing with your diet. So if you
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: if you just do the diet alone, yes, things are
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: going to get better. If you can keep your body
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: in keytosis, things are going to get better, and not
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: just cancer. I mean, like let's just say it, it's everything.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 7: Type two diabetes will go away, dementia risk goes way
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 7: down if you're in ketose.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: So there is a correlation between this and dementia risk
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 7: Oh absolutely. In fact, the only drug that works for
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 7: dementia right now is keto. They keep trying all these
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: drugs that try.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: To make this whole plaque build up path and apparently
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: that is that apparently didn't work out.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: Two things you can.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: Do for dementia or go into katosis and stop taking statins.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 7: You need that cholesterol to build your brain back up.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: Now I'm talking like a doctor, So back now. You're
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: doing a fantastic job, and I appreciate it. And I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: think the other aspect to this is that exercise needs
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: to be looked at as just as important as sleeping,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: just as important as eating and drinking water and breathing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it is essential to our life. We talked
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  Speaker 5: about the Paleo like everybody was moving back then, and
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: we weren't. You had to kill your We were sying
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: because we broke a bone and it got massively infected.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: We didn't have antibiotics back then, but we died healthy.
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  Speaker 5: Here we are just getting eaten away because of sedentary lifestyle.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: So if we were too, honestly, as a country, if
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  Speaker 5: we were to exercise at least five days a week,
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  Speaker 5: you know, make it a part of your routine because
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: I need to, because I have a sit down job,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: or whatever it might be. You would be so healthy,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: everybody be so healthy, we would be disease would start
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: to go away. We'd actually start to move the mark
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: on cancer risk and heart disease. But instead nobody's getting
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: cured of those things right. And my friend Jimbo Collins,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: he is a jim on the West Side. He is
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: the healthiest guy I know, and he's he's ripped right.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: He works out all the time, and I admire that.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: And because I became friends with him, I have also
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: understood and seen the benefits of exercise.
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  Speaker 1: I know. See, I'm not in a position to deny
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  Speaker 1: any of this. I'm just I can repeat chapter and
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  Speaker 1: verse for like the next hour all the reasons that
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: people should exercise. And I had my own physician yesterday
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: doing the same thing. He said, you know, Brian, you
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: might when I said, I can tell you what you're
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: going to say, like, you know, just talk to my wife.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: And how many times has she had these exact same
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: conversations with me or anybody like Keith and George worked
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: out too. She works well in a sense, every single
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: day she takes Liam out to the park and does
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: at least a couple of miles while either walking or
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: for fast running chasing the dog around. Yeah, and Liam
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: gets probably quadruple that running around chasing the laser being
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: But yeah, every single day my wife is and that's
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: what she'll say to that. She goes, I got into
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: the park and walk.
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  Speaker 6: You can at least get up and walk the dog.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. Seven thirty six more
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  Speaker 1: with Keith and George. After I mentioned cross Country Mortgage
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  Speaker 1: Great top station seven forty here fifty five K see
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  Speaker 1: the talk station Time to Restore Health Restore Health Dot Org,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: Keith NFL, George Brodman in studio. We're talking to restore
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: it's restore wellness rather restore cancer the underlying theme for this.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: But overall it's all about diets. So even if you
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: don't have cancer, everything George and Keith that you're talking
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: about is strongly encourage really for everyone.
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  Speaker 7: Because it's they're all the same symptom. I mean, the
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 7: book Good Energy from Casey means who hopefully will be
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 7: surge in general soon. But her book is totally focused
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 7: on what happens when the energy in your cells is
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 7: not being fed properly and not working properly. It leads
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 7: to all of those diseases, type two, diabetes, dementia, cancer,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 7: all of them. And so you're right, this is this
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 7: is kind of like the foundation for not getting sick
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 7: in the first place.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Understood, Get ahead of it and you don't have to
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: deal with the aftermath. That's fine, so Keith. Earlier in
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: the show, unless you're so, I know you're off air,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: you were saying, I don't want to sound preachy. I
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: don't want to sound like I'm lecturing. I don't think
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: it necessarily does. But I know where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 1: It is out of an abundance of care and concern
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: for people generally speaking that this advice comes from. Sometimes
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: takes a hammer to get people to follow the advice,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: but at least you're providing it, and I applaud you
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: guys for doing that, whether or not someone follows it
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: or not. And the only reason I bring up my
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: own personal you know reality on this because I've been
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: with the before part and i've been with the afterpart,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: and I didn't pursue it as headlong as you guys
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: are recommending. I haven't done multi day fast. I do
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: these little periodic fast kind of thing. But I'm living
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: proof that if you do something along these lines, you're
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: gonna definitely notice it, and it's going to improve your
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: life to some degree. My life could be improved to
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: a greater degree if I again started regularly exercising and
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: doing some of the other things, but earlier in the program.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: So I hope I apologize for your lecturing concerns there
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: real quick, they're keep thank you.
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  Speaker 6: You had mentioned this, and this came up.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: During COVID Ivermeckedin and and anybody who's uttered the word
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: iver meted in at one point, Ah.
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  Speaker 6: You're crazy.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: It's a horse pill.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: You know this is insane.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump evil orange man. Because Trump said Ivermechedin out
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: loud a couple of times. I don't know. Pharmacies were
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: prohibited from even filling prescriptions for it, which is to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: me the intrusion into the doctor patient relationship like no
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: other I've ever witnessed in my life. But what's the
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: story with this stuff? What's I mean it does? It's
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: it goes after parasites, So how in the hell does that?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: That was a design for treating animals and is a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: proof for human use. You mentioned, Keith, what the.
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  Speaker 5: Hell's it got to do with this diet styf so
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: regarding it asying, Thomas Sefried said that he was going
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: to study ivermectin in the research back in twenty twenty
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: three for this particular situation, but it was too political,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: so they chose me menmendazol, which is similar to femmindazol
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: and ivermectin and albindazol.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: So they're all the same drug category.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, okay, they're basically anti parasitics. And what Thomas Sefree
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: came did to learn is that the same food source
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: that parasites use is the same food source that cancer uses.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: So basically, when you have parasites, you're producing this cancer
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 5: fuel and vice versa. And so that's why there's this
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 5: potential link between when you have cancer you have parasites.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, anti parasitics has also been
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: shown to actually disrupt cell membrane and cancer as well,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: So glucose glutamine parasite food, glucose glutamine cancer.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 7: Food in the in the the ivermectans of the world
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: block that reaction. So the same chemistry that parasites use
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 7: for energy is the same chemistry cancer uses.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: And so therefore him thing that you like to take this.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 7: This is why I liked it, what the whole discussion
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 7: is because it was extremely technical. But you understand that
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 7: this guy's looking at it from the equations of chemistry
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: and he's saying, these anti parasitics are so parasite stuff
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 7: works because it's the same process.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Idiot Thomas, no law or no, not licensed to practice medicine,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: not even close. It's sort of an off label use. Yes,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: ivermacdinf and Bendazel and the other ones were designed to
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: deal with, you know, parasites and animals, but humans can
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: benefit from these to get rid of their parasites that
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: might live in their body. But parenthetically, in addition to
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: doing that completely separate from its anti parasitic function, it
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: also has the effect of impacting this this cellular relationship
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: between the cancer.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 7: Cancer survive as well.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: And then we get back into drug research and the
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: finances and the money behind that. You know, the whole
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: industry and these medicines has been around for a very
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: long time.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: So so there's an center for the pharmaceutical company to
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: diss and otherwise belittle anybody who might mention it along
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: these lines because they have patented pharmaceuticals out there which
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: nobody would buy if they realized that these drugs did
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: the same thing, and they're basically over the count do
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: it back.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: And we also found an ivermectin was also anti viral
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: as well, and that was where the whole Fauci thing
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: came out.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: Don't treat your COVID with horse medicine, you know.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: And so I find that I'm also frustrated with the
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: medical industry and that doctors only are allowed so many
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: minutes per visit for their patients at the same time
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: they have to push certain drugs or as they're getting
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: dinged or they're not meeting this benchmark or this checklist.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: And I really would love for this whole industry to
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: really wake up. And I believe that physicians really want
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: to do what's best for their patients, but their hands
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: are being tied down by these financial obligations.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Well, the financial obligations, but separate from that, you know,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: physicians are also influenced by social media, and if they
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: were to even suggest out loud the word ivermectin, they're
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: probably in a room with a patient who thinks it's
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: oh my god, horse pill. Didn't you hear what Fauci
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: said about the horse pills? And so they're gonna be
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: met with that. You know, that that wall of belief
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: that has been parroted since COVID nineteen was going around.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I do give propaganda if you will, I do give
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: them credit. Though, the feedback that I'm getting from patients
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: is that the oncologists in the cancer areas are starting
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: to say, yeah, I mean, we hear a lot of
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: new things about ivermectin, and there seems to be this
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: open conversation starting to happen. They don't tell you no,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: don't do it. Before they might have said no, no,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: you don't want to do that, but now they're saying,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm not going to stop you. Maybe it
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: might work. Right.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 5: And the key point behind what we're trying to present
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: today is that that Thomas Sefree's work showed that when
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: you put people on a keto diet or a glucos
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: restriction diet, and at the same time, if you can
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: do gludamin blockers or in my case, supplements, you will
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: increase the duration of their life expectancy and quality.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you think about chemo, you've been through chemo,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 7: you don't feel.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Chemo retuxin it was not a chemo agent, thank god.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 7: But when you go through chemo. I've watched my father.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 7: I mean, the guy lost tons of way. It's so
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 7: horrible when he died. It's this horrible process, this approach.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 7: You feel better and better every day because all of
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 7: your other problems are going away along with.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: The cancers, and you're not killing a good chunk of
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: your body that you really want to stay alive with
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: the chemos and.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: Thomas Sifred also show that radiation and chemotherapy increase the
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: fuel sources for cancer aka glucose and gludamine.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, A right, one more bad thing associated with
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: chemo seven forty seven. One more segment with the folks
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: from Resort Wellness dot Org after I mentioned Simney Care fireplaces,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: So okay, boiled down, have your chick the talk station.
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  Speaker 6: Seven fifty one, come.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: Up at seven fifty two to fifty five ker CD
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: talk station George Betaman, Keith Tennefeld in studio and really
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: enjoy these since I think I feel him as inspirational honestly,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: because again I give you guys a lot of credit
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: for me moving over to a much much healthier diet,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: and I honestly one hundred percent would not lie to
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: any of my listening audience. I do feel a hell
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: of a lot better. And again, going back to the numbers,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: I god for my dock yesterday, for my physical they
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: look great. I mean a significant improvement over the by
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: comparison over the years, So thank you guys. And again,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: the CT scan that I most recently got showed that
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: removing sugar from my diet at least might have had
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: the impact of making the lymphodes get smaller. I can't
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: give it one hundred percent credit, but what you guys
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: are telling me allows me to have greater confidence that
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: the effort did have an impact on the cancer.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 7: And that's kind of the bottom line is. You know,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 7: when people are diagnosed with cancer, they feel the angel
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 7: of deaths on them. Now that there's no hope for this,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: we're not going to be able to do anything. The
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: bottom line is, no, that's not true anymore. There is
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 7: something you can do. Actually it doesn't cost any money.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 7: It's it's changing your diet.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Well, it might even exercise. There's no more mountain dew
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: line item in your gross you're definitely not going to
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: take everything that you wouldn't be buying if you are
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: eliminating sugar, like I went so far as did not
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: even eat barbecue sauce, Oh.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 7: Wow, because you know it's got Oh yeah yeah. Or
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: you can look for the ones adult, which is what
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 7: we use.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it don't taste much.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 7: But the key is, it's up to you. It really
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 7: is up to you. If you are diagnosed with cancer
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 7: or if you're just not feeling good, there you go.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 7: You can try these things. They don't cost anything. They
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 7: take a ton of self discipline.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 7: One of the things that I liked that he talked
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 7: about was the idea that he's going to create this app.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Seafree is oh this doctor or the physician HD.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 7: So he's basically going to have a like a continuous
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 7: glucose monitor. So you put this the sensor on your
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 7: arm and the app tells you, hey, you can have
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 7: that donut. But when you look at the app after
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 7: you eat the doughnut, oh golly, my keytones went down,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 7: my glucose went up. It's now telling me my cancer
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 7: is growing bright red. Oh are you gonna eat a
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 7: second doughnut. Now no, But I mean it's.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Like your parents standing in the room watch it's like, well, right,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: only one well and place.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 7: It's not a death sentence, and none of life shouldn't
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 7: be a death sentence. I mean, yeah, we're all going
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 7: to die at the end of it, but how do
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 7: you want to live it? How do you want to
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: feel when you're eighty. I always come back to my
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 7: standard line is I want to be able to get
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 7: up off the floor after playing with the grand kids, right,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's the bottom line.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: But I thought, I think the reason that we don't
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: do these healthy options is because we lack maybe self worth,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: self identity, whatever it might be. And so if we
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: can flip that and start doing self care, and we
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: start really dialing in and saying, I need to care
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: for myself in all the ways of my life diet, exercise, sleep, rest, relationships,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: and really spend time dialing in and feeling that connection
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: with the why you're doing it, the reasons why you're
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: doing it.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it may be boiled down to the
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: stuff just tastes so blank and good. I mean, diving
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: into a bag of nacho cheese door itta is maybe
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: the idea of I mean, someone's idea of heaven, and I.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 7: Love be engineered to do that.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: I love right right right, And see that's kind of
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: how I've been able to stay the hell away from
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: It's like they were designed to make you feel really
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: elated when you eat them. This is why I can't.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: You have to eat a old bag the damn things when.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 7: You all make you feel elated and you're still hungry
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 7: after you ate the whole bag.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: But see that if you know that that's stimulating dopamine
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: to make you feel better, the question is why do
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: you need to feel better that?
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 6: I think if we get through the root of that.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, why why do people eat when they're depressed.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: Or drink alcohol or do drugs or all these other addictions. Yeah,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: so we get to the bottom of that you personally identifying,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: and I think it's I honestly believe if you really
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: want to get groovy, is that there's a there's something
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: missing on the inside and trying to fill it up
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: with something else that makes them feel better. But once
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: they start to love themselves and they start to just
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: really have this great relationship, they don't need to be
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: filled up with anything but themselves and then self care
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: starts to perpetuate.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: George, Keith, I appreciate what you guys are doing. It's
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Restore Wellness dot Org. There's tips information the podcast. They're
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: going to be doing the follow up podcasts, so follow
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: George and Keith. And again Keith's with root Cause, which
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: is the name of his business in Harrison, Restore Wellness
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: dot Org. Keith, George, thank God for what you guys
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: are doing. I appreciate your influence on my life and diet,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: and I know you're doing that for a lot of
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: other people, and that's why I'm so pleased to be
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: able to bring you in the morning show from time
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: to time to keep people on the right track or
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: maybe get them to try out going on the right track.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: Thank thanks for keep on having us out.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Love it, man, absolutely love it. Learned something every week.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: Jack in for the latest. They want to make sure
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: everything's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC the talk station. Heto six here. I
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  Speaker 1: think you about KRCD talk station and been looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to this conversation since I found out we have this
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  Speaker 1: Holocaust exhibit coming in or that is in town. All right,
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  Speaker 1: the since a museum Center at the Nancy and David
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  Speaker 1: Wolf Holocaust and Humanity Center, and I have Elizabeth Pierce,
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  Speaker 1: who happened to be the president and CEO of the
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  Speaker 1: museum Center, along with Jackie Conjado, the CEO of the
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  Speaker 1: Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust and Humanity Center, in studio
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  Speaker 1: to talk about not just the Humanity Center the Museum
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  Speaker 1: Center generally speaking, but about this new exhibit, which sounds
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  Speaker 1: to me like it it adds a slightly darker element
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  Speaker 1: to what I came away with, as I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to call it necessarily uplifting, but a positive experience. When
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  Speaker 1: I attended the Holocaust and Humanity Center's exhibit when it
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  Speaker 1: was in its prior location, I expected really to be sad, depressed, overwhelmed,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, anybody has any measure of familiarity with
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  Speaker 1: the Holocaust knows you're not going to go in there
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  Speaker 1: with a grin on your fhaser come out all smiling
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  Speaker 1: and whistling. But there was a sense of like hope
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  Speaker 1: and some measure of positivity, like the learning experience of
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  Speaker 1: all the death and awful and horrific events. And yet
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  Speaker 1: people came out the other side with these amazing stories
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  Speaker 1: of survival and optimism for the future. Welcome to the studio, ladies.
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  Speaker 1: It's so nice to have you in here. Thank you, Jackie.
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  Speaker 1: You and I've talked about this before, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: I asked you before the show started. Because this new
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  Speaker 1: exhibit features over five hundred original artifacts from Auschwitz, and
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  Speaker 1: that's where the whole question concept of maybe darker element
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  Speaker 1: comes in. Tell me how this comes across.
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  Speaker 4: It's an unprecedented presentation of sort of the facts of
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  Speaker 4: what happened in this place through artifact, through story, and
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  Speaker 4: the presentation at Museum Center is really unparalleled, I think
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  Speaker 4: from anywhere else it's been. This has traveled the world,
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  Speaker 4: and this is the last stop in the United States,
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  Speaker 4: the only stop in the Midwest, and it is an
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  Speaker 4: incredibly powerful, moving, emotional experience. And to your question about
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: you know, how do you leave feeling like you got
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  Speaker 4: to go lay down or do you feel empowered? That's
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  Speaker 4: our job at the Holocaust and Humanity Center is to
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  Speaker 4: make sure that we integrate not only the local stories
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  Speaker 4: in the exhibition, which we've done so you get an
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  Speaker 4: understanding for the resilience, the rebuilding that happened in Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 4: the fact that these survivors, you know, of this horrific
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  Speaker 4: history came through the building where this exhibit now stands
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  Speaker 4: at Union Terminal. But also we have this whole upstander
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  Speaker 4: framework around agency and character strength, and the fact that
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  Speaker 4: at any given moment, we can make a choice to
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  Speaker 4: be the best of the worst of humanity, and that's
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  Speaker 4: our agency, that's our choice. So we wrap the whole
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  Speaker 4: thing in this idea that the best could still be
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  Speaker 4: ahead of us if we choose that. And here's how
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  Speaker 4: you can make that choice.
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  Speaker 1: So, and I understand your presentation at the Nancy and
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  Speaker 1: David wolf Wolf Holocaust and Humanity Center is comes across
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  Speaker 1: this display of these artifacts. Your presentation comes across differently
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  Speaker 1: than this display, and the presentation would come across if
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  Speaker 1: it was seen in New York City or someplace else
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  Speaker 1: around the world. You put the spin that you guys
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  Speaker 1: are famous for on this rather potentially disturbing exhibit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and does it have elements of disturbing in it when
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at it? I mean, let's be frank here,
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  Speaker 1: what are we talking about?
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  Speaker 3: That?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean, you know, the artifacts are large concrete
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  Speaker 2: posts with barbed wire. They are artifacts that are specific
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  Speaker 2: to human beings, hair brushes, a child's shoe. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they are incredibly moving. That will take you to a
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  Speaker 2: place of like, how did this happen? And that's the
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  Speaker 2: question we want people to be framed with. And then
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  Speaker 2: what is the response I should have going forward? And
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  Speaker 2: how can I learn more? How can I get involved
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  Speaker 2: with the upstand or framework. So it is we say
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  Speaker 2: this a lot. It's where global history meets local history because,
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  Speaker 2: as Jackie said, the survivors of Auschwitz came to Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 2: they got off a train and walked through Union Terminal.
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  Speaker 2: So to have the Auschwitz exhibition and the survivor's story
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  Speaker 2: told in this place where the history happened is part
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  Speaker 2: of that resilience and courage message, and it's part you know,
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  Speaker 2: the title is Auschwitz, not long ago, not far away,
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  Speaker 2: and we are trying to make the point that this
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  Speaker 2: did not happen a thousand years ago on a planet
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  Speaker 2: far far away. It happened in our lifetimes and our grandparents' lifetimes,
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  Speaker 2: and it happened in a place that we all come
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  Speaker 2: and go all afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: And in our humanity and in our humanity.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you made that point because I just
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: turned sixty, you know, and there's sort of this milestone
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: birth and you look back at you know, what happened
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: between nineteen sixty five when I was born and now
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five. That was only twenty years after we
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: won the war. I mean, that's just twenty years. Is
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  Speaker 1: nothing I can look back think about twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's almot as if it happened yesterday. So context. As
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: you get older, you get to experience this profound context.
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  Speaker 1: As a young person, think, oh my god, nineteen forty
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  Speaker 1: five or nineteen thirty eight or whatever that was wherever ago.
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  Speaker 1: That's never going to happen again. No, that's why you
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: need to study the mistakes of the past. We still
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: regularly study, and importantly so the horrors of slavery, for example.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to forget that moment in time. We
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  Speaker 1: don't want it to happen again. I just don't understand
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  Speaker 1: people's reluctance in some cases, the backcrap, crazy folks who
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  Speaker 1: even deny that this even happened. Do you have to
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: struggle with that in a regular basis?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I got to tell you, you come through this exhibition,
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  Speaker 4: there's no denying any of this history, I mean, it
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  Speaker 4: is so, it is so laid bare. And also to
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  Speaker 4: the folks who are deniers, I'm going to quote are
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: incredible survivor Henry Finischel, who survived berg at Belsen, whose
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  Speaker 4: father was killed in Auschwitz. He often says his story
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  Speaker 4: was a lot like Anne Franks, except he survived and
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  Speaker 4: Anne perished. And he says to the deniers, I tell
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  Speaker 4: them your heroes. The Nazis would roll over in their
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  Speaker 4: graves if they heard you denying the Holocaust. They were
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: so proud of what they were doing. They documented every step.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, many of the perpetrators were brought to justice
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  Speaker 4: on their own evidence. They didn't need any witnesses, any victims, survivors.
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  Speaker 4: They were planning to celebrate forever that they had rid
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  Speaker 4: the world of what they deemed to be right, the
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  Speaker 4: ultimate boogeyman, evil, the Jewish people. Of course, all you know,
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  Speaker 4: fake propaganda. But this people don't understand that this didn't
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  Speaker 4: happen because a group of evil people just popped up
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  Speaker 4: out of nowhere in the nineteen thirties in Germany. This
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  Speaker 4: happened because people like you and I, civilized, normal human
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  Speaker 4: beings going about their everyday lives. We're convinced to believe misinformation,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 4: bad information, you know, Libelist propaganda about who Jews were,
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  Speaker 4: allowed them to justify to themselves that they were doing
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  Speaker 4: the right thing, They were doing the right thought, they
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: were doing the right thing. So this challenges us with
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: like needing to look in the mirror. Are we doing
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  Speaker 4: the right thing? Are we doing the right thing? Are
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: we believing the right information? Are we checking what we
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  Speaker 4: read and what we understand? Are we gut checking our
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  Speaker 4: own biases? Or are we just doing what we're told?
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, you were right in my wheelhouse with comments
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  Speaker 1: like that because of the political divisions we have in
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: this country and the screaming and the anger and the
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: vitriol that goes from both sides of the political ledger.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, celebrating the attempted assassination or the outright
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: assassination of someone and justifying and saying it was right,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: you know why, because that person's message was bad. I mean,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: you know, we have political dissent in this country depends
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: on where you stand the political life, and we welcome
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: and invite discourse. We have free speech, we have free exercise.
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  Speaker 1: The idea is the great exchange of ideas that maybe
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  Speaker 1: the truth will filter out. But you don't go around
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  Speaker 1: killing people or otherwise using someone else or that happen
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  Speaker 1: to be their race as a scapegoat for broader problems.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: It's an easy excuse. But it's like people I think
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: want to offload their personal responsibility for any problems or
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: want to find an easy answer to some societally screwed
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: up problems like economics, whatever. Let's just blame the Jews,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: let's just blame the black people, let's just fill in
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  Speaker 1: the blank, let's blame that politician, or let's go after
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  Speaker 1: evil orange man. That's an easy message to people for
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: people to consume. You mean, it's not my fault. You
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  Speaker 1: mean this is going to be an easy fix. Just killed.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have to be involved in this right now.
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  Speaker 2: Your point you're worried about agency is the important thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the survivor story, right the survivors are
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: the ones who created the Holocaust and Humanity Center because
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: they said, you're not going to deny this. We were there,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: it happened to us. Here's our testimony around this. And
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: they went on to create lives in this community because
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: they were resilient and courageous and they said no, not
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  Speaker 2: on my watch.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great way of some And that's the best
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  Speaker 1: explanation or response or retort that I have heard with
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: regard to the deniers. No, no, no, they would be
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: angry at you because you're saying it didn't exist. This
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: is something they were proud of. I'd never heard it
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: phrase that way. Yeah, that's a great retort.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, And I think the exhibition in
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: that way is a mirror. It really is. If you're
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: coming there to say, I want to feel, I want
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: to be more validated in my thinking about where the
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: boogeyman is or those evil people over there are, those
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: are the bad guys. This exhibition forces us to look
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: in the mirror at our responsibility, each one of us,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 4: and what we have to do, because, as you said,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: the problems are not left or right. The problems are
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: around extremism. Yeah, and how we can stand up for humanity,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: for shared humanity.
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  Speaker 1: The exhibit Auschwitz not Long Ago, not far away at
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  Speaker 1: the Sincean Museum Center, We're going to continue the conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Elizabeth tier Pierson, Jackie cunjeddo three forwards, Don't go away,
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  Speaker 1: enjoying the on air and off air discussions with Elizabeth Peters,
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  Speaker 1: president's CEO of the Sinsame Museum Center Hall of Justice.
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  Speaker 1: For those of you who might might want to remember
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: the architecture of the building. I was just telling Elizabeth,
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  Speaker 1: it's got to be such a joy, Like I get
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: you out of bed feeling to get up and know
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: that you're going to work inside the Cincinnati Museum Center.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just got to be a cool experience.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's the most beautiful building I know, and it's
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: got all these layers of history and community connections and
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: people's prom dates and weddings and the whispers of I
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  Speaker 2: Love you across the arches, and then the Superman movie
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  Speaker 2: and the Justice League.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, right, well, and you mentioned obviously we're talking about
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: the Auschwitz, not long ago, not far away museum or
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: exhibit temporary it is. We're going to details on how
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: long it's going to be, the tickets and all that
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: in a minute. Five hundred original artify from Auschwitz. Working
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: with the Nancy and David with Holocaust in Humanity Center.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: Jackie Conjado CEO is in studio for that as well.
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  Speaker 1: But that they walked through the building, I was reminded
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: of the survivors actually went through Union Terminal, the local ones.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: When I remember as a kid, my grandpa told me
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: that World War Two, the either departing enlistees or the
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: returning veterans, if they were traveling through Union Terminal or
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: departing from a lot of them would take a nap. Well,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: they put a tag on their shirt, I need to
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: catch the whatever number train. You know. He dressed in
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: his service uniform and people would come over and say,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: it's getting time to get on your train. Wake them up.
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  Speaker 1: And I just thought it was kind of a neat thing.
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  Speaker 1: I can't image anybody being doing that these days, not
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  Speaker 1: what you.
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  Speaker 2: Would happen in the airport. But you know, there was
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: the USO and it was staffed by women in the
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: community who were Catholic, Christian and Jewish women who were
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: coming to take care of these guys and give them
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: cookies and tea and like, you know, do the way
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  Speaker 2: up call. So incredible history in this building just.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing, and I was so blessed to be in a
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: position to actually go up and walk behind the iconic clock.
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  Speaker 1: That was cool. I have you to thank for that, Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime you want to come back, I know.
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  Speaker 1: And Jackie Jado from the Nancy David Woof Holocausting Humanity
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  Speaker 1: Center just told me that we should have a listener
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  Speaker 1: lunch because Elizabeth that we met reminded me that really
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  Speaker 1: early on we did have a listener launch at the
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: museum center. I think that was the time I was
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  Speaker 1: able to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would welcome a listener.
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  Speaker 4: Lunch at the at the Holocaust US Humanity Center and
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: possibly for the exhibition's that's there now. I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: great thing about this experience is, you know, Aschwitz not
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: long agoing out far away, this unprecedented look at this
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: place and space and time and the artifacts that come
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: with it. This will be with us for the next
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: six months, so we have this opportunity as a community
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  Speaker 4: to really learn from the depths of this history, and
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: then we the Holocaust and Humanity Center will continue to
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: be there as a resource into perpetuity. So you know,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: we we welcome you back. You know, we'd like for
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: people to come and see the exhibition, spend your time
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: in the exhibition, the Auschwitz Exhibition, and then you get
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: a discounted ticket with your purchase of the Auschwitz Exhibition
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  Speaker 4: ticket to come to HHC and you can come back
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  Speaker 4: within six months.
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  Speaker 1: You can come back because there's so much to consume.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot to consume. It's a lot to consume
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: in one day, and so you'll probably want to come back.
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  Speaker 4: But there's more, there's there's all these layers of what
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: you can sort of learn by experiencing both places, like
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: we were talking about the upstand or framework, but also
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: the local survivor stories and you know this amazing exhibit
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: that you and I were talking about off air where
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 4: you can actually interact with a survivor in real time
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  Speaker 4: ask questions.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to let you elaborate in that component
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  Speaker 1: of it. And when we come back from this break,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: but or from this upcoming break is a couple minutes away.
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  Speaker 1: But as to the exhibit, it is it the It
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  Speaker 1: is at the Sinsame Museum Center until.
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  Speaker 2: April twelfth for twelve Now we might just tell people
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  Speaker 2: like the end of March, because people need to have
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: a deadline and they always blow through it.
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  Speaker 1: So and if they come early it's it's since you
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  Speaker 1: with why museumcenter dot org. Can you get the tickets
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  Speaker 1: there for the museum Center from the museum center's website.
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  Speaker 2: All of it is available right there on the ticketing
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  Speaker 2: page of the museum Center's website.
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  Speaker 1: All right, because the Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust Humanity
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  Speaker 1: Center has a separate website.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but when you buy your ticket for Auschwitz for
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  Speaker 4: the Exhibition on CMC's website there it will prompt you
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  Speaker 4: if you want to add on admission to the Holocaust
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  Speaker 4: in Humanity Center. So it's all on one point.
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  Speaker 2: Both the websites are pointing to the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: Wonderful, you've made it easy for it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: As long as you got meat covered, we're in great shape.
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  Speaker 1: So through April twelfth, get a ticket in advance, clearly,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: or tickets in advance. And again to emphasize the separate
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: ticket for the for the Humanity Center is a window
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  Speaker 1: of six months perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, all right and uh and Brian, it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: with Veterans Day coming up, we have veterans discounts for
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: the Auschwitz exhibition, so three dollars off and general admission
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  Speaker 2: for museum Center is free for veterans from the ninth
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  Speaker 2: to the thirteenth next week, So more details on our website.
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  Speaker 1: All on the website which is again since you with
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  Speaker 1: the y Museum dot org. Will continue with Elizabeth Pearce
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: and Jackie Kanjato because we're going to talk a little
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: bit about what they got going at the Holocaust in
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Humanity Center with this artificial intelligence. It is really really wild.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty nine fifty five KCD talk station, thoroughly enjoying these
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  Speaker 1: conversations on and off air. Elizabeth Piers, she's the President's
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  Speaker 1: CE of the Sinsame Museum Center in studio with Jackie
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  Speaker 1: Kanjato from the Nancy and David of Holocausting Humanity Center.
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  Speaker 1: The temporary exhibit, which you really need to go to,
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  Speaker 1: is called Auschwitz Not Long Ago, Not Far Away, featuring
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  Speaker 1: over five hundred original artifacts from Auschwitz. They have tied
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  Speaker 1: and connected the exhibit to the city of Cincinnati, especially
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  Speaker 1: tailored by the folks from the Holocausting Humanity Center, so
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  Speaker 1: you get that Holocaust in Humanity Center feel. In spite
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  Speaker 1: of the what I will just characterize the slightly more
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  Speaker 1: bleak reality of some of these artifacts. And before we
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  Speaker 1: get to the artificial intelligence amazingness that you have at
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  Speaker 1: the Holocausting Humanity Center, Jackie, I asked you both, and
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  Speaker 1: you both came up with the same answer. Of these
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  Speaker 1: five hundred items from Auschwitz that you looked at, I said,
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  Speaker 1: which one, if any, had the most profound influence or
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  Speaker 1: your reaction was greatest about it? And you both identified
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  Speaker 1: one item. Let my listeners know what that one item
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  Speaker 1: is among these five hundred.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a suitcase, and it is not just any suitcase.
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  Speaker 4: It is the suitcase that Werner Copple, who was a
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  Speaker 4: survivor of Auschwitz, who became a Cincinnati and who came
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  Speaker 4: through Union Terminal, who was the first survivor in Cincinnati
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  Speaker 4: to speak up and share his story. So we paved
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  Speaker 4: the way for essentially our organization and our work. Werner
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  Speaker 4: Copple was sort of famous for saying, I arrived at
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  Speaker 4: Union Terminal with a wife a baby in a suitcase,
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  Speaker 4: and that ended the first part of my life. And
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  Speaker 4: so that is the suitcase that's on display back where
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  Speaker 4: sort of that story pivoted in the same space where
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  Speaker 4: that story pivoted, and we were so grateful to have
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  Speaker 4: his son Steve with us to install the artifacts. Steve's
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  Speaker 4: a board memories. He's just one of our family. And
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  Speaker 4: when you come to see the exhibition, the very first
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  Speaker 4: words you'll hear in the audio tour which guides you through,
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  Speaker 4: are Werner Copple's words, I arrived in this building with
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  Speaker 4: a wife, a baby in a suitcase. So right away,
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  Speaker 4: not far away, not far away. This happened right here,
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  Speaker 4: right in our city.
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  Speaker 1: Rather emotional experience, I might imagine, Yeah, it's inact how
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  Speaker 1: he was when he came through first year.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna catch me in a moment where I don't
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  Speaker 4: know exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I think he was.
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  Speaker 4: He was, you know, mid aged, he had you know,
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  Speaker 4: he had one child, Steve the second hit. Their second
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  Speaker 4: son was born after they came to Cincinnati, but their
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  Speaker 4: older son, Ron was a baby at the time, and
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  Speaker 4: so you know, he was a he was a man.
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  Speaker 2: Who was just mid twenties.
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  Speaker 4: Just trying to the reason why I said.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't live instance any prior to that.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like, no, he was in Germany, in Poland.
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  Speaker 1: I want to make that clear, because you had talked
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  Speaker 1: about we were talking about the beauty of the building,
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  Speaker 1: and can you imagine the first time you ever see it,
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  Speaker 1: like anybody, even from locally, if you've never seen the
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  Speaker 1: damn building, get in there and take a look at it.
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  Speaker 1: It's awe inspiring. You had a guy who was locked
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  Speaker 1: up in a concentration camp, probably half starved to death.
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  Speaker 1: Survive death, survive the death march right, survived the horrific
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  Speaker 1: conditions that preceded going into the camp. Probably lived in
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  Speaker 1: a slum forced there by the Nazis. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: this man's personal history, but go all the way back
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  Speaker 1: to the World War One and post World War One,
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  Speaker 1: the conditions were pretty damn bleak to begin with, regardless
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  Speaker 1: of where you were. So going from that and I
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  Speaker 1: just see like this, this sort of vision of uh gray,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the everything's gray. You're looking over the landscape
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  Speaker 1: like former Soviet Union mental visions of gray, bleak, dark, terrible,
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  Speaker 1: torn up, blown up. To make this journey after living
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  Speaker 1: through all of that, and to walk through that room
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  Speaker 1: and just see that the gold and the murals, and man,
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  Speaker 1: you got to think you arrived at paradise.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and all admiring for the future. Yeah, and many
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  Speaker 4: of our survivors reflect on the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 4: they obviously there were the moments of liberation and you know,
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  Speaker 4: displacement afterwards, but really feeling like the first time they
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  Speaker 4: could feel like they had found a place where they
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  Speaker 4: could be they could begin again, was arriving in that
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  Speaker 4: building at Union Terminal, you know, and and having the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to think again about life. I mean, that's it's
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  Speaker 4: just And this suitcase, this was everything he owned. This
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  Speaker 4: was everything he owned.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a very big suitcase.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, it's like less than I would pack for
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  Speaker 4: a weekend in New York. Yeah, but it's it's and
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  Speaker 4: they were lucky to have anything. So many of these
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  Speaker 4: survivors had nothing. They had and their family was gone.
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  Speaker 4: They had no no home, no business, no way to
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  Speaker 4: I mean, no language skills to you know, in terms
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  Speaker 4: of English coming here, like these people built a life.
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  Speaker 1: How did they survive as a nuclear family? Amid all that?
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  Speaker 1: Did they the husband, wife, and child were all able
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  Speaker 1: to come together?
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  Speaker 4: So in Werner's story. In the case of Werner, he
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  Speaker 4: survived Alschwitz and the Death March before he met his wife.
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  Speaker 4: His wife was a nurse who nursed him back to
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  Speaker 4: health after the war, and they had they had ron
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  Speaker 4: their son and then came here. So, you know, he
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  Speaker 4: and Steve. You know Steve, if you ask him, like
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  Speaker 4: how did he survive this, he'll he'll give you kind
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  Speaker 4: of a combination of like, you know, how did anyone survive?
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  Speaker 4: Some people survive, some people didn't. But also Werner had
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  Speaker 4: this determination, he had this drive, he had this persistence,
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  Speaker 4: he had this ability to say, all right, now we rebuild.
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  Speaker 4: Now we rebuilt. That's just that's just the task in
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  Speaker 4: front of us.
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  Speaker 1: After all that in in the face of all those challenges,
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  Speaker 1: the man remained optimistic that he could make something of
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  Speaker 1: his life, went on and did so. And I think
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  Speaker 1: about that. I'm in all the way and crying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like my life's so miserable. I live in a terrible country.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, are you kidding me? A thirty five fifty
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  Speaker 1: five cares of thetalk station we give to the artificial
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  Speaker 1: is he part of the artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 4: With Unfortunately Werner passed away before we had implemented this technology,
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  Speaker 4: but we do have two local survivors.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can talk to and we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: how you talk with a couple of local survivors. This
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  Speaker 1: is just amazing. Eight thirty five fifty five KR see
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  Speaker 1: Thomas with Elizabeth Pierce, President and CEO of the Sincame
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  Speaker 1: Museum Center, along with Jackie Kinjaco, the CEO of the
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  Speaker 1: Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust in Humanity Center, focusing primarily
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  Speaker 1: this hour on the exhibit that's being displayed there until
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  Speaker 1: April twelve. Health get your tickets. Auschwitz not long Ago,
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  Speaker 1: not far away again. Five hundred original artifacts from Auschwitz
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  Speaker 1: and it's the biggest collection of these artifacts outside of Europe.
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  Speaker 1: And this is kind of a traveling event or traveling
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  Speaker 1: exhibit that's going around the world. Happens to be here
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  Speaker 1: for several months, and we're blessed to have it here.
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  Speaker 1: And of course with the Center for Holocaust or Holocaust
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  Speaker 1: or Humanity Center putting its spin on it, it's got
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  Speaker 1: a different flavor to it then if you saw it
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  Speaker 1: someplace else, and a positive spin they try to put
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  Speaker 1: on it. But let us get ourselves grounded. Have we've
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  Speaker 1: got Thanksgiving coming up. We have a lot to be thankful.
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  Speaker 1: Alluding back a little bit to the screaming and yelling,
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  Speaker 1: I just engaged in it over the moment, because we
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  Speaker 1: complain here in America over the most minute things. We
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  Speaker 1: get ourselves all in sense. We love the criticize about
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  Speaker 1: how terrible things are and how unjust things are. And
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  Speaker 1: then you look at what happened world War two, the
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  Speaker 1: treatment of the Jews, the concentration camps, everything that these
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  Speaker 1: folks live through, and everything they had to deal with
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  Speaker 1: coming out the other side through Union terminal to further
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  Speaker 1: new life if they were lucky enough to survive the Holocaust,
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  Speaker 1: and having a positive spin on it, looking at life
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  Speaker 1: from a fresh perspective, and being positive and optimistic about
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  Speaker 1: the future. So go to the exhibit, Yes, see what
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  Speaker 1: it was like, and then decide whether or not you
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  Speaker 1: think you have something to complain about.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, have some family conversations.
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  Speaker 4: There is nothing like a visit to this exhibition or
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  Speaker 4: to the Holocaust in Humanity Center to inspire that kind
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  Speaker 4: of gratitude and perspective. We have one artifact in the
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  Speaker 4: center that is a uniform worn by a survivor. Leo
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  Speaker 4: Willick and it is pretty pretty well preserved. It's because
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  Speaker 4: after he survived Auschwitz, he had it pressed and cleaned,
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  Speaker 4: and he would put it. He put it in a
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  Speaker 4: box on the top of his closet, and he would
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  Speaker 4: put it on when he was having a bad day
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  Speaker 4: and look in the mirror and remind himself that his
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  Speaker 4: worst days were behind him. So, you know, if these
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  Speaker 4: people who survived the absolute worst of human the worst
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  Speaker 4: things human beings can do to each other, can come
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  Speaker 4: out of that and not just right off humanity forever,
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  Speaker 4: and actually, to the contrary, build an organization that believes
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  Speaker 4: in the possibility for us to do better, that educates like,
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  Speaker 4: what's our excuse? Why are we not hopeful? Why are
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  Speaker 4: we not feeling like we have any agency or power?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's the most inspiring thing you
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  Speaker 4: can imagine.
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  Speaker 1: Bless you well, And that again does a beautiful job
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  Speaker 1: summon up in the experience I had when I saw
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  Speaker 1: the Center, because that's how I felt when it came out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you feel better for having seen it right and knowing
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  Speaker 1: these people's experiences, which takes me over to something I've
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  Speaker 1: been alluding to all morning, this artificial intelligence experience. You
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  Speaker 1: can have at the Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust and
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  Speaker 1: Humanity Center. You got this, I mean, this is this
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  Speaker 1: is truly amazing. Just give me an example what my
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  Speaker 1: listeners can do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you can come to HHC anytime.
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  Speaker 6: We'll be there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this special exhibition is there through through April.
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  Speaker 6: But we'll be there.
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  Speaker 4: We will be there, we will be there. So come
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  Speaker 4: down and visit, and you can come have a conversation
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  Speaker 4: in real time with a survivor. You can ask any
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  Speaker 4: question and get an answer. And basically you stand in
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  Speaker 4: front of a life size video monitor like a screen,
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  Speaker 4: a television screen, recording of a survivor. And we actually
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  Speaker 4: have two local survivors whose testimony we've recorded in this
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  Speaker 4: format now and you can ask ask any question and
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  Speaker 4: you'll see sort of the video index for a minute,
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  Speaker 4: and you'll get a response, and the response is remarkably
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  Speaker 4: relevant to the question you asked. For this all being real,
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned AI, the video itself is not fake. The
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  Speaker 4: video is absolutely real. Interviews with these people where we
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  Speaker 4: sat down with them for a week. We asked every
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  Speaker 4: single question we could ever imagine, in every single iteration
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  Speaker 4: we could imagine someone asking the question and then it's
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  Speaker 4: all sort of indexed and edited, and now you can
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  Speaker 4: go in and you can you know, you can ask
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  Speaker 4: any question and receive an answer about the war or
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  Speaker 4: about their life in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, that was I was going to gravitate toward that.
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  Speaker 1: So a logical question for me will be like, tell
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  Speaker 1: me or explain a day in the life at our Schwitz,
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  Speaker 1: like for a for a concentration camp prisoner, yep, yep,
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  Speaker 1: And I would get an answer for that yep. But
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  Speaker 1: I could also ask pivoting over to the Cincinnati part.
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  Speaker 1: You know, are you or are you a Cincinnati Reds fan?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, and they'll talk about the Reds. You can ask,
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  Speaker 4: you know, al Miller, who's the survivor, who's in our
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  Speaker 4: featured in our di t gallery right dimensions and testament
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  Speaker 4: and gallery right now? I can ask him what his
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  Speaker 4: favorite flavor of Greater's ice cream is.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Well, okay, let me test the boundaries
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  Speaker 1: of this. If I said what I just want to know?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, you know, you got to be thinking about
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of questions I could ask. But if I
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  Speaker 1: was being foolish, could I ask him what's better Skyline
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  Speaker 1: or gold Star.
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  Speaker 4: So if I think he has a response for that,
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  Speaker 4: and let me tell you, you think you can trick him,
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  Speaker 4: there's no one who's going to try harder than a
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  Speaker 4: group of ninth grade you know, high school also come through.
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  Speaker 4: So we we have and he will say, in the case,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we didn't ask him a question that has
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  Speaker 4: some something to do with the you know, with the
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  Speaker 4: with the question you're asking, he'll say, let's get back
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  Speaker 4: to my story. Or he'll say, you know, well, actually
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  Speaker 4: that's a question that they didn't I was never asked before.
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  Speaker 4: You can have any other questions.
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  Speaker 3: Have I heard that? Rarely?
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  Speaker 4: Have I heard that? Huh, Yeah, it's pretty amazing. There
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  Speaker 4: is an AI algorithm that learns the more you ask
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  Speaker 4: questions how to better source relevant answers. But the video,
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  Speaker 4: it's really important that the video is not AI. The
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  Speaker 4: video is real recorded interviews with the survivor.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I although I can envision a time
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  Speaker 1: where you know, there's probably out in the artificial intelligence
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  Speaker 1: gathering mode that's out there. Literally every source of information
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  Speaker 1: that has been digitized is being looked at from artificial
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  Speaker 1: intelligence that you might have a real time three dimensional
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  Speaker 1: hologram of this guy and using every available ounce of information.
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  Speaker 1: If you failed to as him ask him a question
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  Speaker 1: when he was alive, they could scour the globe of
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  Speaker 1: information and come up with a response that he could
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  Speaker 1: actually say to you. They would look like he was
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  Speaker 1: answering that question. Oh he never answered that question for
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  Speaker 1: him when was alive. But there's a little there's an
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  Speaker 1: article over here that talks about him that said, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, in fact, he was a gold.
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  Speaker 4: Star fan well, and that this is why I always
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  Speaker 4: correct and people say the AI exhibit, because yes, there's
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  Speaker 4: an AI component of how the algorithm sources the right
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  Speaker 4: actual answers.
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  Speaker 1: But it goes back really important.
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  Speaker 4: It's really important that like there is no fabrication, there
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  Speaker 4: is no random sourcing of what we think he might
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  Speaker 4: have answered. This is are real answers from a real person.
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  Speaker 1: And that's critical to your credibility going back to these idiots, right, well,
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  Speaker 1: they made that up, clearly, they made everything else up.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly eight forty five. One more segment with the Auschwitz
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  Speaker 1: not long ago, not far away, the far away museum,
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  Speaker 1: along with Elizabeth and Jackie. We'll be back right away,
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  Speaker 1: don't go way fifty five KRC the talk station. Chris
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  Speaker 1: Kindermark the talk station eight fifty fifty five KRC the
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  Speaker 1: talk Station. This has been such a delightful conversation. Elizabeth
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  Speaker 1: Pearson Studio President, CEO of the Sinsinan Museum Center, Jackie Conjato.
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  Speaker 1: She is the CEO of the Nancy and David Wolf
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  Speaker 1: Holocaust in Humanity Center, which is and will continue to
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  Speaker 1: be after the roving exhibit leaves at the cincinn Museum Center.
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  Speaker 1: It's this beautiful, beautiful space. The Holocaust in Humanity Center
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  Speaker 1: is truly an overall uplifting opportunity, but fascinating in every right.
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  Speaker 1: But now we've got this addition, a separate exhibit five
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  Speaker 1: hundred international artifacts from Auschwitz at the museum Center. Again,
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  Speaker 1: the name of the exhibit is Auschwitz, not long ago,
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  Speaker 1: not far away. It's there until the twelfth of April.
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  Speaker 1: Joel put all this information up on the blog page
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  Speaker 1: fifty five cars dot com, along with the links to
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  Speaker 1: the museum Center's website and the Holocaust in Humanity Center's website.
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  Speaker 1: So what else are we going to see here? So
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about the exhibit, talked about some of the
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  Speaker 1: reasons we need to see the exhibit. Those who are
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  Speaker 1: not studying the stakes of the past are destined to
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  Speaker 1: repeat them or end up in a state of denial
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  Speaker 1: that they never even happen. You know, let's just end
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  Speaker 1: that notion you don't believe it happened, show up and
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  Speaker 1: prove it to yourself. But then also this idea that
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  Speaker 1: maybe can ground us a little bit and we can realize,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, our lives aren't really as dang bad
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  Speaker 1: as we perceive them to be. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: one of the best things we could probably do this
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  Speaker 1: time of year, as we've fast approached the holidays.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's all about gratitude and perspective. Gratitude
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  Speaker 4: and perspective. I tell myself that if my past one
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  Speaker 4: thing on to my children, it is gratitude, empathy, and resilience.
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  Speaker 4: Those are the three. And I think that this is
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  Speaker 4: like the perfect laboratory for how to help young people.
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  Speaker 4: But adults also get a healthy perspective and you know,
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  Speaker 4: a sense of a sense of gratitude and honestly, resilience.
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  Speaker 1: Resilience, well, you know, and this isn't an effort to
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  Speaker 1: go down a political road. I don't know, you're either
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  Speaker 1: of you ladies. Political affiliation, I really don't think it
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  Speaker 1: matters what I find impossible to believe Republican Democrat, independent socialists, communists, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Then an outright anti Semite, someone who has been critical
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  Speaker 1: of Jewish people generally speaking, and has been involved with
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  Speaker 1: and a member of organizations who river to the sea
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  Speaker 1: advocate for the eradication of Israel generally speaking, and the
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  Speaker 1: Jewish people Allah. The final solution that the Nazis I
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  Speaker 1: mean this is these are people who've adopted a very
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  Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler like approach in terms of their viewpoints of
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  Speaker 1: Jewish people. They view them with disdain. So, yes, it
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  Speaker 1: could happen again, is all I can observe that there
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  Speaker 1: are people in power who hold these viewpoints right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think the best thing we can do
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  Speaker 4: to sort of inoculate ourselves in that way is to
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  Speaker 4: understand what anti Semitism looks like, how it shows up,
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  Speaker 4: so that we can recognize it in our world in ourselves, right.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we don't have to be It's not a
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  Speaker 4: point of shame, but it's a point of stereo. It's
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  Speaker 4: like it's like any other stereotype. You just have to
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  Speaker 4: be aware enough of what it looks like so that
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  Speaker 4: when you see it creep up in a conversation or
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  Speaker 4: in your own thoughts, you can identify that and say,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that might seem harmless in the moment, but
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  Speaker 4: that it's that kind of hatred and stereotype and you know,
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  Speaker 4: false information about a group of people that led to
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  Speaker 4: the atrocity at scale. So you know, it's I totally
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  Speaker 4: agree with you, Brian. It's it's not a left or
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  Speaker 4: right issue. It is an issue at the extremes. It's
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  Speaker 4: an issue. It's an issue when people stop looking for
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  Speaker 4: complex solutions to complex problems and they look for someone
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  Speaker 4: to blame. They're looking for an easy scapegoat.
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  Speaker 3: You.
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  Speaker 4: Scientism has been.
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  Speaker 2: That you have a century, so you have a survivor
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  Speaker 2: who has said the Holocaust did not start with bullets.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it started with words.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, And so understanding what that humanity looks like
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  Speaker 2: and how far these choices are made every day is
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  Speaker 2: so crucial, and it's it's kind of the whole point
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  Speaker 2: of the exercise that we're in the middle of right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think the power in this history is
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  Speaker 4: that we think about these massive atrocities or frankly massive
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  Speaker 4: movements for progress and justice in our societies as big
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  Speaker 4: sweeping things that happen out there. The reality is that
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  Speaker 4: the worst things we can think of that have happened
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  Speaker 4: in human history, and the best things they happened one person,
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  Speaker 4: one choice, one moment at a time. They were relatively
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  Speaker 4: mundane people going about their mundane lives, making mundane choices.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, in my mind, we can see that
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  Speaker 4: as really being or we can see that as as hopeful,
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  Speaker 4: because we all have the Holocaust was not inevitable. It
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  Speaker 4: wasn't inevitable. It happened because people made choices, and we
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  Speaker 4: have the opportunity to choose, choose the good, to choose
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  Speaker 4: to act in character strength, to choose to see the
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  Speaker 4: strengths in other people, to value difference. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's up to us. What's the story they're going to
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  Speaker 4: tell about us?
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  Speaker 1: Brian am and to that I cannot improve on those
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  Speaker 1: closing comments, Jackie, beautifully stated, and thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: the Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust in Humanity Center and
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