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The Pathway Murders | The First Case to be Solved by DNA · True Crime Never Sleeps

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are diving into the pathway murders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The history of forensic states all the way back to the year, twelve, forty-eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that possible you ask.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a book written in China whose title translates into English as Washington way of wrongs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in that book is the earliest documenting use of a forensic technique.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There had been a murder in a Chinese village where the victim had been killed with a sickle, which is basically a curved knife.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the thing that's on the Chinese flag if I'm not mistaken.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and a dude investigating the murder assembled all the suspects in an outdoor location and had them lay their sickles down in front of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When a swarm of flies landed on one particular sickle, drawn to the traces of blood that had been left behind,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's when the investigator knew who the murderer was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that person then confessed to the murder, validating the investigators method.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You may be surprised to know that fingerprint identification is barely a hundred years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't until the eighteenth and nineteen centuries that scientists even recognize that fingerprints were unique to an individual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And only in nineteen-o-two was finger printing first used to solve a crime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's around the time scientists first discovered blood types, which itself would eventually be implemented in the forensics as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've come a long way since then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Golden State Killer, California's most notorious and identified serial killer, was finally arrested in twenty-eighteen after being identified with forensic genealogy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And since then,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Over two hundred other cold case murders, some dating back to the fifties, I've been solved using the same technique.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where the DNA of an unidentified criminal offender is uploaded into a genealogy database, and after the criminal's relatives are identified, genealogy is constructive family tree and narrow down potential suspects to like find their killer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But did you know that DNA appropriating itself is actually relatively speaking a fairly new thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first murder case where DNA was used to weed out the killer was only thirty-five years ago in nineteen eighty-seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the case where we were talking about today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first case to use DNA to weed out suspects.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The villages of Nderby and Narborough in England are pretty typical of what you'll find if you travel to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Part of the country known as the Midlands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These villages have remained largely unchanged for centuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with most families having resided in the region for many generations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, when the area began to see a big wave of newcomers in the seventies and eighties, that caused a lot of ender-be in narrow burrow locals to fear that the identities of their quaint little towns might get lost or diluted, but this influx continued.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The population of both villages was about six to seven thousand residents of peace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And these were a peaceful place where violent crime just didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're a Kathleen man, Narborough seemed like the ideal place to raise her two young daughters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Susan and Linda, after a very failed marriage and an attempt to establish herself in Leicester, which was where she was born and raised.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kathleen, who went by cat, decided she needed some space for her mother and ended up settling in the small village where the gardens were well-many here and the homes looked like something out of a storybook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, it's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you look at all the pictures of the Scotland and England and Nigeria, the places are just so quaint and look, well, perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think mainly because there's a lot of stuff there that's preserved and there's a lot of history there, so they don't really want to disrupt anything or harm anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no offense to us Americans, but there's like history there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so different compared to when you're on the other side of the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's completely understandable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And me, why can't this gonna take your two daughters in like run away to one of these villages in razor family?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now sometime in the late seventies, Kath met a man named Eddie Eastwood and was smitten with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They moved in together and in December of the nineteen eighty, they were married.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kath had a third daughter with him soon after the family moved into a bigger semi-detached house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And life was good for Eddie and Kath, and their new family and his English village.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if Eddie at this point was working ninety hours a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got through Banker to see him in the mid-seventies, and was now looking to clear up the debts related to it in the eighties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the couple was doing well, and Kath's daughters were happy and well adjusted, especially the Linda, who by nineteen eighty-three, had blossomed into a popular and polite, fifteen-year-old girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, life dealt letter-worth grammar school, which she was a student.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some saw her as shy and little old fashion, but she had no shortage of friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was by all accounts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A typical teenager and very independent for her age, and that's what the Eastwoods life looked like back in nineteen eighty three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Living in this village in England together, adding on to their family and enjoying life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was November twenty first, in eighteen-three, and it was a cold and frosty evening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was around five p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when Linda, the teenager, left the house to babysit her neighbor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She got back home around six twenty firm, quick meal with her stepdad, Eddie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By this point, the temperature had taken even more of a dip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Linda was scheduled to babysit for another neighbor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she slayed into a sweatshirt and darted at the door.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As she returned home shortly after, that neighbor turned out was on sick leave, and Linda knows she wouldn't be needed that night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Linda spent a few minutes watching TV, and then she prepared to leave again until in cath or mother that she was going to visit her friend Karen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Linda told her mother to probably stay at Karen's for a while and stop by her friend's carolins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, she said, I'll be home by ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Linda went on her way, and it was about seven to ten at this point, and she was heading towards Karen's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Linda actually crossed paths with another friend of hers, Margaret.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The leader recalled that Linda seemed like her normal cheerful self during this interaction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Linda then popped into Karen's place, but it turned out that her friend wasn't home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Linda talked to her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talk for a few minutes with the girls' mother, and then told her she was off to see her other friend Carolyn, and the neighboring village of entropy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Caroline and actually borrow some record albums from Linda and now Linda wanted to pick them up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's like, oh well, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Karen wasn't home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to go to Caroline and pick up my record albums and then I'm just going to go home and then she left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She left to go to Caroline's, but as always in these cases, Linda never made it to Caroline's house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Katherine, any Eastwood, Linda's mother and stepfather had been out that evening playing darts at the local pub.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now back home, about half an hour after midnight to find Kat's oldest daughter, Susan, still waiting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Linda's not home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She immediately told them, sounding very concerned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was totally out of character for Linda as I explained earlier, and Katz's heart started racing immediately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She had told her she was going to be home by tent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's almost midnight and she's not home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie got into his car, began driving around the neighborhood, checking all the local teen hangouts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He then walked the black pad, which was a footpath that ran alongside Carlton Hayes Hospital, which by the way was a psychiatric hospital whose grounds had many acres of farmland.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that separated the two villages, Narborough and Enterbee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The hospital was torn down in the mid-nivease, but if you look at its former location on Google Maps, you can see just how much land the hospital occupied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was practically the same size as either the two villages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have this hospital, and then on one side of the hospital is Enterbee, on the other side is Narborough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the middle, this is huge hospital with a land, with a pet path.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That cuts through and on either side of the hospital to get to the two villages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So on one side of the hospital to the east, ran the footpath known as ten pound lane, and on the other side was another footpath called the black pad, which was the shortcut that Linda was known to take.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The one that she would have taken the night to get to Caroline's, which is why her stepdad isn't now searching it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know if I'm taking a road called the black pad just saying, also on the fact that it runs right next to a psychiatric hospital.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And both of these folk pets, paths, excuse me, joined in our barrel with entropy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, they were relatively well-traveled by locals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Linda had been heading to her friend Carolyn, she was very likely she'd have taken the black pet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Eddie searched up and down this footpath, which was not lit up at night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was no lighting of any kind, though there was a full moon out that night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Eddie was able to see along the path fairly well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he couldn't find the anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After an hour, Eddie gave up and returned home to phone the police and reportedly in the missing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie could hear the lack of urgency in the voice of the policeman on the other side, and so he stressed that Linda always returned home before ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But with a report made, there was nothing more for Linda's family to do, but spend a sleepless night waiting for some word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully from Linda, and hopefully that everything was okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And around seven, forty the next morning, a hospital porter was on his way to work at the psychiatric hospital, walking the black pad footpath when he looked through the rotten iron fence separating the footpath from the grassy fields of the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he spotted what looked like a mannequin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe once in a blue moon, it's a mannequin, but it's a never-manic income line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, obviously, this worker can't be sure that it's not a dead body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he flagged down a calling, who is driving past and brought him to the location with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The colleague walked through the open gate into the Fenstoff area and saw what was clearly not a mannequin but a human being.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A young woman partially nude bruises and a bloody nose and scarf noted tightly around her neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd been down to check the young woman for a pulse, but the rigorous made it instantly clear that he wouldn't find one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, all any Eastwood could talk about at work that morning was how his teenage stepdaughter was missing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometime before new, word reached Eddie that a body had been found along the black pad and footpath.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hit that fourth moment and race to the location, pushing past police barricades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Police took notes and told him to go home and wait for a call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They needed to investigate Eddie realized upon walking home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie had passed right by that body the night before within three yards of it, during his search for his daughter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A short time later, Eddie was summoned back to the footpath and allowed to look at the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's her, he told police, who looked it up the shiny black tarp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie immediately recognized the jacket in the scarf, the one that was tightly wrapped around her neck as Linda's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie returned to the house with two detectives and asked Linda's mother, Kath, a battery of questions about Linda.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether she had a boyfriend, if she'd been wearing earrings, the nine-over-death, and so forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kath was in such a days that everything only half registered to her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Samination of the crime scene made it very clear that Linda had been sexually assaulted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her genes and her underpants have been tossed into a pile several feet away from where her body was found.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And her sweater had been pushed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Post-mortem examination confirmed that Linda was raped, probably after being strangled to death, which is a pretty big clue, because it's pretty interesting to be a salt-a-body after the person has died.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's felt that the killer had to be someone local, because an outsider to the area likely wouldn't have known about the footpath that everyone crosses to get to the two villages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No more how to get to the other side of the fence, or only to us bound.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, the psychiatric hospital, right near the footpath, offered the most obvious possible solution, which is that a patient from the hospital and killed Linda.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the police and investigators believe it was more likely that the killer was living a normal life in a community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, although everyone's first jump is someone escaped from the hospital and killer, the police are kind of like, we don't think that we think it was someone who lived in the community, which I don't know if that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Any better?
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the immediate aftermath, the Linda's murder, there was some speculation in the press that Linda's killing may have been linked to another recent slang.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The rape and murder of sixteen-year-old Collette, around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Colleges were probably butchering her name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Collette's murder had occurred three weeks earlier, thirty miles to the north in the town of Keyworth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Linda, Collette had been walking home from a friend's home when she was confronted, strangled, and found the next morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both victims lived in one motorway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Collette had been abducted from the scene and taken elsewhere before being dumped and spoiled a large
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[SPEAKER_00]: Colette's murder was solved in two thousand nine and there was no connection to Linda.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she was murdered somewhere that's not really out in the open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of just sitting there like how do you, I mean, you start to story with DNA, but other than that, I mean, you're not going to see anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to find anything except DNA on your body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although detectives didn't know this at the time, they didn't know that the two murders weren't connected, but despite that, they actually continued investigating Linda's murder on its own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were like, we're not going to love these two girls together, even though they were found thirty miles apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to take a look at Linda's murder as a hometown murder essentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Detectives were interviewing people in the area of the footpath on the night of Linda's murder, and they learned that a girl fitting Linda's description.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been seen with what witnesses would describe as a punk rocker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, this is in nineteen eighty three, so punk was definitely a thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was peak punk era.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this guy that witnesses saw on they thought Linda was with, he was your prototypical punk, spiked hair, dark clothes, dark clothes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then two of them were seen in a bus stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were also spotted dashing across a busy street forcing one motorists to slam on the brakes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So several people came forward and said, they think they saw Linda with this punk looking guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: According to news reports, that motorists spoke briefly to them after they dashed across and made them slam on his brakes, which sounds like a euphemism before he cuts them out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you just yelled at them a hundred percent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, the police investigating Linda's murder became convinced that she had some kind of date or pre-arranged and meeting with this punk rocker on the night of her death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They became convinced that, although you guys think Linda is such this good girl who's going to carry on, they believe something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The assumption they were working on was Linda left her home, right into her friend Margaret on the way to Karen's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got the Karen's, talked to her mom, who she also told she was going to see Karen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But once she left Karen's home, she actually met up with this punk with spiked hair, and they responded together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These later released what they called an artist conception of the punk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were really focusing on this punk and they spent months trying to draw whoever this was in for questioning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They considered this to be their strongest lead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that punk wasn't the only person that witnesses came forward about in Linda's murder case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some other unidentified people that witnesses reported including a young male and his late teens who was seen running from an area, looking frightened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a man about twenty years old with a stocky build and dark, maybe red or brown, curly or layered hair, who was walking from the scene with his shoulders hunched up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is something interesting that happens in a lot of these cases when you ask eyewitnesses to come forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a lot of them are alive at the exact same place, seeing ten different realities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only other potential useful detail from the nine of the murder is that one witness heard someone shouting, no, no, no, no, and sounding very scared at around nine, twenty five p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So police said, okay, maybe this was her being murdered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we have a time on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But a month after a limb is murdered, even after all these potential leads, police were no closer to identifying the killer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The teenage girl had been brutally assaulted and murdered in this quiet English village that was supposed to be safe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lighting was then installed alongside the lagpad footpath, making it somewhat safer to travel at night, and hopes of this never happening again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Though at this point, people were kind of avoiding this footpath like the plague.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wordhead spread throughout the community, and when his murder was on everyone's mind, people were horrified, and it was covered in the local newspapers almost every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When his funeral took place on February second, in
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was attended by over a hundred friends and family members, foreigners, described as young punks and leather jacketed teenagers, even showed up to pay their respects with the wriths that they laid outside of the church.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the police, all the while, were keeping a watchful eye on the event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they even set up video surveillance and were recording everyone who attended the services so they could review the tape for anyone they hadn't interviewed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And although DNA profile wasn't a thing yet, forensic science did look at blood type and more specifically blood enzymes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was already happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the semen taken from Linda's body revealed the killer had type A blood and the PGM one plus enzyme profile, which would only match ten percent of the male population.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as the months were on, the investigation just wasn't going anywhere, despite that they had this blood DNA with the police and Linda's family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Believe that someone out there knew who the killer was and was shielding him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They believed that whoever this killer was, their behavior would have changed after the crime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Enough to around the suspicions of their own families and friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as much as they kept urging that hypothetical person to come forward, nobody did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the trauma of Linda's murder was really taking a toll on her family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie, Linda's stepfather, fell into depression and was no longer able to work nine hours a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A loss of income resulted in a second bankruptcy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the ones daily coverage of the crime and now a dwindle to weekly and then monthly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just happens these cases grow old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But starting in March, nineteen, eighty-five news articles began appearing, telling this brand new process that was being developed, which sciences were calling DNA profiles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We take it for granted almost because it's so normal now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, spokesman for the home office, which is in charge of the police and courts, said the technique was expensive and predicted it would not be used retoon routinely in the near future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all the articles go on to say that DNA fingerprinting and already been used and Britain to approve maternity in an immigration case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: spokesman said the government plan to introduce it the following year in a yet to be choosing criminal court case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to choose a case to try to test a theory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Flash forward to Thursday, July, thirty first, nineteen, eighty six, two years after Linda's murder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was three, thirty PM in a fifteen-year-old girl named Don Ashworth was getting off work, ending her shift at interview news, the local news stand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Don had a lot of a lot in common with Linda actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only was she the same age when they had been and when she was killed, she also attended the same school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just like Linda was an upbeat, popular, happy young woman in a familiar face in the community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dawn was in an especially high spirits on this day because she had a vacation plan with her parents for the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To a seaside resort town, just a couple of hours away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm gonna guess it's like a place where the locals would go and have vacation a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dawn went home and told her mother Barbara that she was planning a meet her friends, Sue and Sharon, in a neighboring Narborough, for tea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our mom said, okay, but told her to be back by seven sharp because the family had committed to going to a birthday party for the little boy of a family friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A little boy that don't actually babysat a few times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don already had plans to see a friend of the night, but she agreed that she would cancel those plans and be back by seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she set out first stopping by interview news, her workplace to buy some candy and a present for the little birthday boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she left to continue on to Narborough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the Quake is route to Narborough was through ten pound lane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other footpath opposite to the black pad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That cut through the sprawling grounds of the psychiatric hospital.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, Donna is going to cut through this path to get to the other side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it sounds like this crazy person who's killing people is just like watching those paths.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don's father had warned her many times not to use these footpaths because a Linda's murder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you're basically now or same age, do not walk these paths.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Linda's murder had sewn fear in the heart of the community and everyone was young.
22:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Daughters had grown a little more vigilant and protective, but it was broad daylight at this point.
22:39
[SPEAKER_00]: This day, many afternoon, and this route kept the travel time nearly in half.
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So Don made this decision to travel a ten pound lane that day.
22:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And she soon safely made her way to her friends, Sharon's house.
22:52
[SPEAKER_00]: However, once she got there, Sharon's mother came to the door with news that Sharon had already left town with Sue.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: The friend that she was supposed to be meeting up with.
23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: The friend's mother suggested the Don that she just tried Sue's house.
23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: The Don left and knocked on Sue's door.
23:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But Sue's mother told Don that Sue wasn't there either and suggested that she go look for her two friends in the village.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: like they had already made their way.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But it didn't seem like there would be enough time at this point, and it was important to Dawn that she not be late for the birthday party.
23:24
[SPEAKER_00]: She already wasted so much time checking both friends' houses, and Dawn was very punctual and always on time.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So instead of going to chase her friends in the village, she turned back and headed towards home.
23:34
[SPEAKER_00]: The last time anyone saw Dawn alive, she was walking towards a farm gate, about to re-enter, ten pound lane.
23:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Seven-oh-five that evening when Dawn failed to return home promptly at seven?
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Barbara already knew something was wrong.
23:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Dawn had never once been late returning home, and deep feeling of dread overcame Barbara, who left by herself to deliver the presence to the little birthday boy.
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And she then immediately returned home, only to find that her daughter still hadn't come back.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So then Barbara drove to Sue's house and talked to the girl's mother.
24:06
[SPEAKER_00]: We told Barbara that she'd last seen Dawn around for thirty when she redirected the girl to look for her friends and a village.
24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Barbara drove around the village until she located Dawn's friends, Sharon and Sue, sitting in a near-the-new stand where Dawn worked.
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: They told Dawn's mother that they hadn't seen Dawn all day in a no clue where she might be.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Barbara then returned home and was joined by Don's father Robin.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: The two parents enlisted to help her some friends and began searching around the village, even along the dreaded black pen, where Linda Mann had been killed.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Now imagine being this family, your daughter's just gone missing, you know, that she's most likely taken the shortcut in just two years earlier, a girl, the exact same age, very similar, also babysat, went missing and was murdered on this path.
24:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you would think after this, they would just close the path down.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Another girl goes missing, especially if you don't find the killer.
25:02
[SPEAKER_00]: When Dawn still hadn't come back by nine thirty pm that night, her family decided to call police and reporter missing.
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, another girl had just gone missing on these paths.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: The very next morning, a large group of uniformed policemen began searching the fields with tracker dogs.
25:19
[SPEAKER_00]: One person this search caught the attention of was Kath Eastwood, Linda's mom.
25:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Aside of the tractor, trackers sent chills down Kath's spine.
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Took us right back, she later told the press.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: We hoped upon hope that the result wouldn't be the same for this family.
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But two days later, all that hope evaporated when the body of dawn was found alongside ten pound lane.
25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Concealed by dense undergrowth into which her killer had dragged her body.
25:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Much like Linda, Don's body was new from the waist down, her brother had been pushed up, and her body had extensive injuries.
25:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Though it was determined that many of them were from post-mortem insect bites.
25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It was found that Don had been violently raped and probably struck in the face and neck and strangled her death.
26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: But possibly not in that order.
26:06
[SPEAKER_00]: The pathologist noted that the sexual assault may have occurred after Dawn's death.
26:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So we was believed right from the outset that whoever killed Dawn was the same man who had killed Linda two years earlier.
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Whose body had been found only half a mile from the location where Dawn was killed.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And the semen taken from Dawn revealed the same blood type and enzyme type as the Linda's killer.
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's only a ten percent match population profile.
26:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Now after the second murder, both Villanges were in a straight pack.
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Teenage girls were told to travel on groups, never be alone, and to avoid the footpath.
26:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And though Don's co-workers at the new stand tried not to think about what Don must have gone through that night, it was hard not to, as every newspaper they sold had Don's face on the front page.
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Police were determined to stop this killer before he struck again.
26:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They were convinced that he would.
26:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They launched an extensive investigation with even more muscle and resources than the land of man inquiry.
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what they call investigations in England.
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: They called them inquiries.
27:11
[SPEAKER_00]: The police learned that multiple witnesses had heard screams from the area of ten pound lane, around five PM that day.
27:19
[SPEAKER_00]: In two different witnesses say they'd seen a man crouching the tall grass of an embankment near the footpath.
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And in description, a white male in his early twenties with blonde hair was consistent with that with another man who had been seen running across a nearby street, nearly being hit by a car.
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Then reports came in about a suspicious man who was seen and loitering around the crime scene on his motorbike, both on the day of the murder and during the investigation afterward, showing an intense interest in the activity beyond the police tape.
27:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That young man was a seventeen year old kitchen porter at the psychiatric hospital.
27:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And this man's name, seventeen year old was Richard Buckland.
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Now Buckland did his motorbike have been seen multiple times near ten pound lane throughout the day that Dom was murdered.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He'd been seen driving slowly past her house the day after her murder, had been observed watching the search teams before Dom's body was found.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he actually approached on the investigators to talk to him, claiming he'd seen Dom walking up to the gate, leading into ten pound lane.
28:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But the most concerning piece of information about Richard was that he told one of his coworkers about the discovery of the body before it had been in the press only a few hours after it was found.
28:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Plus he had a reputation around the village for scaring girls as they walked home from school.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a happy for him.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: For the task force investigating Don's murder, all this was enough to arrest Richard Buckland and take him in for questioning right away.
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So they showed up at his house on the morning of August eight in place to murder a rest, much of the shock of his parents who just couldn't fathom their son being involved in a murder.
29:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Once back in the station, they began their questioning of Buckland, who couldn't account for his movements that day of Don's murder, and struggled with the questions in general, because Buckland did have some intellectual disabilities, and sometimes he'd trail down after any questioning and the discussions about motorcycles and other unrelated topics.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So in the middle of being questioned, he just started talking about motorcycles, but it detectives labored hard enough to keep him on track.
29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And during all this, in a merge that he knew details about the crime scene, which had been released into the public, such as what Don and Ben Waring and the position her body was found in.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And after fifteen hours of questioning, Buckling confessed to raping and murdering Don.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So now he's charged with Don's brutal murder, and it was widely assumed that he was also responsible for a Linda's murder two years earlier.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: is it was clearly done by the same perpetrator.
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: However, Buckland denied responsibility for it when this murder, and also Richard Richard would have only been fourteen years old at the time that Linda was killed.
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make it impossible that he killed Linda, but it's rather unusual for a fourteen-year-old to commit a crime with this nature.
30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It's happened, there are cases where it's happened, but it's rare.
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Then again, you may remember that one of the suspicious people that witnesses had seen in the area when it was death, around the same time, around the time she was killed, was a teenage boy.
30:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Multiple sources came forward and said, there's this teenage boy running around.
30:35
[SPEAKER_00]: A buckling was insistent that he had only killed Dawn in Notlanda.
30:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So this presented a quandary for investigators.
30:46
[SPEAKER_00]: The man in charge of the eyecaster sure criminal investigation department was detective chief superintendent David Baker and he had been aware that the development of DNA fingerprinting for some time.
30:58
[SPEAKER_00]: He's heard about it.
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He's read about it and what the problem of Buckling confessing to Don's murder and deeply heard the nine responsibility for Atlantis.
31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Baker felt it may be time to put this new technique to the test.
31:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So Detective Chief Superintendent David Baker reached out to Alec Jeffries at Genetics Researcher at the local university, which was actually less than ten miles from where the two girls were murdered.
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeffries discovered of DNA profiling was quite accidental.
31:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He been researching hereditary diseases when he had this sort of euphoria moment, which led to what began as a side project.
31:42
[SPEAKER_00]: This is literally telling the story of how this guy came up with DNA profiling.
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeffrey's eventually developed DNA fingerprinting, along with Peter Gill and David Warrant for the forensic science service.
31:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I already been used successfully in a maternity case.
31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I mentioned earlier in that case, it was proven that a French teenager was the father of an English divorcee's child.
32:02
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a history-making event, though it didn't make much of a media splash at the time.
32:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He was approached by David Baker, Ale Jeffries, who was quite familiar with the footpath murders, was more than happy to help.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So Jeffries started with the graded Siemens sample from the Linda Mann murder, and he was able to develop what he called the genetic signature, which is now what we call DNA profile.
32:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So it comes up with the DNA profile, Linda's killer, then developed a DNA profile from a blunt sample taken from Richard Buckland.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: a man who killed the linda who was not Richard Buckland.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He had just been eliminated using DNA profile.
32:44
[SPEAKER_00]: A week then passed before a full DNA profile was developed from the sample taken from the semen found inside Don Ashworth.
32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Don's killer was the same man who killed the linda.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, Richard was innocent in both mirrors.
33:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So he just admitted to it, but he didn't do it.
33:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeffrey's then broke the news to Detective Chief's superintendent, David Baker, who was floored.
33:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Asking any chance of a mistake, Alex Jeffrey's was wondering the same thing himself, so he tested, so he had the test repeated by independent parties at the home office, and they reached the exact same conclusion.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: In Richard Buckland was then released.
33:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Buckland later explained that the pressure of the interrogators imposed on him was too much, and he ultimately just caved and falsely confessed.
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: leaving there was no other way out of the situation.
33:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And what Richard may not have fully appreciated in that moment was that he had just made history.
33:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Becoming the first man to be exonerated by DNA evidence.
33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Alan Jeffries later stated that no data down that Buckling would have been tried and found guilty.
33:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Had it not been for that DNA.
33:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like a hundred percent scout would have served a prison sentence for this if DNA had not excluded it.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But now the hunt was on again for the sadistic killer of the two fifteen year old squirrels on the footpaths.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: They had more to go on here because now they knew for sure it was the same killer.
34:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine having to explain to Don's family that although this kid confessed and impacted extremely weird after the murder, this new science experiment science has found confirmed he didn't do it.
34:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a DNA profile wasn't even a phrase yet.
34:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they can wrap their minds around it because of fingerprinting and blood types, but still.
34:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably really hard for them to be like, what do you mean this little test just said he didn't do it?
34:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He said he did do it.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Accounting police now believe in the legitimacy of this new technique, and they came up with a novel idea, a genetic, a drag net.
34:55
[SPEAKER_00]: In January, in nineteen eighty seven, a massive coordinated campaign was organized between both the villages of Narbaro and entropy.
35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: as well as the nearby village of Little Thorpe, where they ask more than fifty-five hundred local men between the ages of seventeen and thirty-four, to give their blood in an effort to identify the food path killer.
35:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Essentially, they were creating in the first DNA database without even realizing it.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine how expensive the investigation must have been by this point with all this new scientific stuff.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: This was such an ambitious effort and it's the kind you wouldn't really have seen in a larger city where crimes like rape and murder are more of a common thing.
35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But some reasonable corners were cut here.
35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Of the blood samples they collected, they only tested those with the same blood type, blood type A, A, with a PGM one plus enzyme as a killer.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's ten percent of the population.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So they were really able to cut down their field quite a bit.
35:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And so once all fifty-five hundred samples were obtained,
35:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Roughly, five hundred and fifty of those would have been DNA testing.
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: This collection effort would end up spanning six whole months.
36:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, once all the samples were tested, none of them matched the footpath killer.
36:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That was until August first of that year.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: A year and a day from the date of Don Ashworth's murder.
36:24
[SPEAKER_00]: That Saturday afternoon, some bakery workers on their lunch break were drinking in a local pub called the Clarendon.
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the workers, a main man named Anne Kelly, made an interesting claim.
36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Kelly claimed that his co-worker at the bakery, a guy named Colin Pitchfork, had offered him two hundred and quid to masquerade his colon and take the blood test for him.
36:46
[SPEAKER_00]: pitchfork, Kelly said, and had already given a sample for another guy.
36:50
[SPEAKER_00]: A friend of his, and now he needed someone to cover for him.
36:53
[SPEAKER_00]: The go show up and be him to take the test.
36:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He also told his coworker he had encounters with the police in the past and didn't really want to deal with them.
37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's like, can you just do this for me?
37:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Ian had agreed that two men then went to a photo booth where Ian had his picture taken and then Colin took the photo of Ian back home and inserted it into his passport, replacing his own photo.
37:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Cali then showed up to give the blood sample as Colin pitch for using pitch forks and doctored passport.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Ian Kelly's manager at the bakery who was also at the pub in part of his conversation, walked away from a trouble and he continued to nod at her until she finally just went to the police.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Little over a month later to tell him what she had over her.
37:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Police looked at the signature on the form that Colin Pitchfork had allegedly signed when giving his blood, and they noticed that it did not match Colin Pitchfork's other-known signatures.
37:49
[SPEAKER_00]: They think that when his coworker and just told him was true.
37:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So they decided at this point to arrest Ian Kelly, the man who went and took the test for a pitchbark, and he admitted to covering for Colin.
38:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He told him the whole story.
38:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Colin was a twenty-seven-year-old baker with his own side business decorating cakes.
38:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a married father of two young boys, and a man with multiple previous arrest for flashing and decent exposure with teenage girls.
38:16
[SPEAKER_00]: In the late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late late
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: investigators learned of other incidents that Colin Pitchford had been involved in, including two sexual assaults and a kidnapping.
38:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And the kidnapping incident, Pitchford can offer to ride to a seventeen-year-old girl named Liz Knight, whom he had spotted walking home by herself late at night.
39:04
[SPEAKER_00]: She'd asked him before getting into the car if he was a rapist, but she assured her he wasn't.
39:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't until she'd gone to his car and buckle up that she noticed him staring at her in a way that made her previous or pretty nervous.
39:19
[SPEAKER_00]: in a really, and really revolting data, she said, which is staring right through me.
39:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew then that I had made a mistake.
39:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And indeed, she had.
39:28
[SPEAKER_00]: As they approached her turn off, Colin didn't reduce speed in ignored her directions.
39:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He just kept right on going, not saying another thing to her.
39:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Celebrating faster.
39:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an evil smirk appeared on his face.
39:40
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when Liz took the steering wheel and struggled with him as she tried to force him off the road.
39:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He slammed on the brakes and yelled at her.
39:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you wanted it.
39:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this is what you wanted.
39:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Only one is to go home, she cried.
39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Colin regained his composure, turned the car around in the direction of her home, and explained that he and had a couple of drinks.
40:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Liz then offered a drive if he was too drunk.
40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been hurt you yet.
40:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Colin reassured the sobbing teenager as he put his hand underneath.
40:08
[SPEAKER_00]: As they approached the turnoff, he slowed the car to stop, and as the trembling young woman unbuckled her seat belt, he asked her,
40:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on a good night kiss then.
40:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Saying nothing, she bolted from his car before driving away.
40:20
[SPEAKER_00]: He said to her, I bet you'll never accept a lift from a stranger again.
40:25
[SPEAKER_00]: So this girl could've easily been murdered just like the other girls.
40:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Somehow she escapes.
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't believe he's married and has two kids like what a sickening human being.
40:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Colin was charged with two counts of murder, two counts of sexual assault, one encounter, one encounter conspiracy to prevent justice for having his workmate poses him for the blood collection.
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: The workmate and Kelly was himself convicted of this charge and received an eighteen month suspended sentence.
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: psychiatric report that was compiled by a doctor diagnosed pitchbork as a psychopath.
41:04
[SPEAKER_00]: He was sentenced to two life terms which carried at the time a minimum of sentence of thirty years.
41:13
[SPEAKER_00]: At his sentencing, the high court judge said to call him pitchbork, the rapes and murders were of a particularly sadistic kind.
41:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it wasn't for DNA, it might still be a large today.
41:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And other women would still be endangered.
41:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And Lord Chief Justice stated from the point of view that safety of the public, I doubt you should ever be released.
41:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Pittsburgh is apparently been a model prisoner while incarcerated earned a degree.
41:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He became an expert of the transcription of printed music in the Braille, and also became an accomplished artist.
41:47
[SPEAKER_00]: One of his sculptures was actually exhibited at the Royal Festival Hall in two thousand nine sculptures were called bringing the music to life.
41:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was an alchryte from victim advocacy groups, and the sculpture was promptly removed.
42:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Which I mean, uh, you can't put a sculpture up from a guy who's serving life in prison doesn't make sense.
42:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And then incredibly, in twenty sixteen, the Pearl Board moved Colin Pitch for to an open prison, which means the prisoners are allowed employment outside the prison in unlimited access to the community.
42:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And the following year, Colin Pitch fork was indeed seen in photograph of walking around Bristol.
42:26
[SPEAKER_00]: He was being allowed on supervised days at this point.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So he is back down in the community.
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: This is pretty astounding.
42:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Some key differences is there between the UK prison system and how things are done here in the States.
42:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But then in twenty twenty one, pitchfork was actually granted release on what's called a conditional license, which is sort of like probation where he's closely monitored and fired to follow a strict set of rules and guidelines.
42:53
[SPEAKER_00]: At this time, that he's being released a number of conditions, pitfork, and a respect was more than five times with the average parole murder or would have to agree to.
43:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And those included GPS tagged a monitor his movements, exclusion zones, curfews, polygraph tests.
43:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the most restrictive set of conditions ever imposed on a parole prisoner in England.
43:17
[SPEAKER_00]: However, only two months after his release, that release was revoked.
43:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Colin Pitchfork was returned to prison.
43:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it was reported that he had been, get this, approaching young women while out in walks from the Hall of Halfway House, where he was living.
43:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was the probation staff at the Halfway House that raised these concerns.
43:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It was also learned that Pitchfork was learning to, learning breathing techniques that would allow him to fool his polygraph test, and he was supposed to be taking.
43:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But that is the story of the book, Pat Murners, in the birth of DNA profile.
43:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you believe that this story?
43:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like super bittersweet just in the fact that it's horrible that those two girls that dead, but also amazing that DNA was able to catch it.
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