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Jets Find A Way | Knicks Contract Drama | Wild Week in NFL | MLB Small Market Teams Make Noise · Independent N.I.C.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the New York Sports Weekly Show with your boy,
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  Speaker 1: Independent Nick. I got super producer extraordinaire Jason Baum with me. Baum,
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: what's good with you, man?
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  Speaker 2: Goodie, it was fantastic to see you and the crew
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  Speaker 2: this weekend out at Chop's wedding. What a night it was.
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  Speaker 2: Still recovering. But, yeah, absolute banger of a night.
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  Speaker 1: You see I got the shirt on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do see that. And, man, how about Papa Chop?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's a 101. The guy's a 101.
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  Speaker 1: Absolute wild boy. I mean, it's not even– you can't
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  Speaker 1: even really explain Papa Chop to people. He has to
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  Speaker 1: be experienced. But, yeah, the fact that he continued to
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  Speaker 1: add more temporary tattoos to his face and head of
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  Speaker 1: the bride and groom as the night went on is
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  Speaker 1: something unlike anything I have ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but, uh, yeah, definitely a rare one for me too.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know those things were existing. And then
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  Speaker 2: once I knew my dumb ass forgot to put an
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  Speaker 2: over on her bed for the table, uh, I really
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  Speaker 2: should have done.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, whatever. I don't listen. I think it would
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  Speaker 1: have been a family. I don't think anybody is hitting
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  Speaker 1: the under on that. Everybody is hammering the over on that. So, uh, Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, great, great night catching up with the boys,
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  Speaker 1: with our Zen Reach boys. And also, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of business to attend to. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: haven't been on a little while. You've been doing your
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  Speaker 1: thing out there with, you know, your whole kickball playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, how did you all end up?
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  Speaker 2: It was a tough ending, let's just say that. Lost
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  Speaker 2: a couple championships last week. But, however, I did walk
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  Speaker 2: off the plane on Sunday and kick a grand slam. Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We like that.
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  Speaker 2: At least help get us to the finals. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We like that. We like that. And when is the finals?
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  Speaker 2: They were Sunday, unfortunately. Oh, okay. Wednesday final this past
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  Speaker 2: week and lost. Sunday final this week and lost. It
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  Speaker 2: was tough.
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  Speaker 1: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we've done a lot of winning recently. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, every now and then the L's are going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of winning, we also concluded the Fantasy Baseball League.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the one you tied?
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  Speaker 1: And the one where you and I were in the championship.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, it did in a category league. I'm still
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  Speaker 1: a proponent of head-to-head, by the way. But in a
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  Speaker 1: category league, it did end up in a tie. And
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  Speaker 1: Yahoo's tiebreaker is whoever had the higher seed, which was me.
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  Speaker 1: So therefore, I took down my third championship in 10 years,
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  Speaker 1: the most championships in the entire league. Just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: quality domination. This year, we did it with a mix
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  Speaker 1: of having, you know, a great core and then going
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  Speaker 1: out and having just an unbelievable draft. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: can't speak enough about how fantastic my draft was getting
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  Speaker 1: like four out of the top six rookie of the
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  Speaker 1: year candidates, both leagues, just a bunch of young talent,
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  Speaker 1: some young Mets to sprinkle it in. I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just, you know, we can't say enough about the
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  Speaker 1: performance once again, this year by your boy, when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to that league. Anything you'd like to add?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can go back to the Dynasty basketball league
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  Speaker 2: when I did the exact same thing and won three
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  Speaker 2: titles in four years outright.
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  Speaker 1: That league doesn't exist anymore. I killed the league. I
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  Speaker 1: killed the league. Listen, you're right. A lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: due to your dominance, they didn't want to continue. I
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  Speaker 1: think that was a huge factor. I also, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the best commissioner. I am not commissioner material. I'm just not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not organized enough Um, I don't have enough time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have enough bandwidth. And, uh, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I still want to play fantasy basketball, but I just
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  Speaker 1: can't be at the helm. But, um, yeah, man, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk some real sports. I always, I hate when
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  Speaker 1: people talk about their fantasy teams, but, um, and then
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  Speaker 1: you and I just sat here and did it for
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  Speaker 1: a little while. So, um, um, let's move on again.
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  Speaker 1: Once again, there's no, there's no ties. I'm the champ.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm, I'm the champ. Um, but, uh, and then chop
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  Speaker 1: his birthday present. I mean, I'm sorry. His, uh, His
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  Speaker 1: wedding gift for me, besides the envelope, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: where I'm from in Jersey, I think we naturally go
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  Speaker 1: heavier with the envelope than other people do throughout the country.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder. And it's like a question that's hard to
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  Speaker 1: ask people. And then if you're one person or you're
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  Speaker 1: two people, all that changes.
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  Speaker 2: But hey.
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  Speaker 1: Jersey, where I'm from, you're coming with a C-note per person, minimum.
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  Speaker 1: That's for just if you're coming to the wedding. And
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  Speaker 1: I know people do less than that, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: look down on them for doing so. It's just where
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  Speaker 1: I'm from, I guess. But listen, man, Choppa gets the
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  Speaker 1: win against me in fantasy by three. I thought I
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  Speaker 1: was over. I thought I was good. London did nothing
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  Speaker 1: in the first half. Then all of a sudden, London
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  Speaker 1: blows up in the second half, and I end up
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  Speaker 1: losing by three. A very good 130 week. I'm now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just tailspinning after starting 2-0. I really, really,
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  Speaker 1: really could have used that dub.
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  Speaker 2: You and I were two of the four highest scoring
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  Speaker 2: teams in the league last week. And unfortunately, two of
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  Speaker 2: the highest scoring teams in the league we played against.
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  Speaker 2: And they were both at the wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Tough one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, Marty, his team, I was giving him
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  Speaker 1: a hard team, but his team being garbage. All of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, Drake Mays looks pretty good. The bet that
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  Speaker 1: I made with him, Drake May versus, what's his name,
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  Speaker 1: best quarterback stats? That shit's done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, May, he's come alive
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  Speaker 2: the last two weeks. He's thrown for over 400 yards
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  Speaker 2: and seven touchdowns. It's just one pick. Oh, and that
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  Speaker 2: seven touchdown pass is, sorry, plus one rushing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Justin Herbert is the worst fucking quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: the goddamn league.
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  Speaker 2: That's like, Justin Herbert this year is like my worst
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  Speaker 2: take since you and I said Nikola Jokic was not
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  Speaker 2: a top five center.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't, but Jokic was not at that time, but
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  Speaker 1: obviously we know what Jokic is now.
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  Speaker 2: It ain't as well. My Herbert prediction this year is,
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  Speaker 2: oh my God, dude, it's been awful. It has been,
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  Speaker 2: I thought he could legitimately win MVP. Oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: I need to like, I need to go back and
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  Speaker 2: probably drug test myself to see what I was on
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  Speaker 2: during that when I first thought that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt really good making those preseason bets with
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  Speaker 1: Marty during the draft. It's not looking good for you, boy. But, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so speaking of football, you see the hat that I'm
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  Speaker 1: wearing to start off things. The New York Jets, they
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  Speaker 1: go out there, they win ugly 17 to 12. They,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it is a game where the rain is
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  Speaker 1: coming down. It's windy. It's MetLife. It's exactly what it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be. And the Jets come out and they
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  Speaker 1: do just enough. You have a Cleveland team that they
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  Speaker 1: have gotten probably the most surprising start of anyone in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. Not just the fact that they're 3-1, but
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  Speaker 1: if you look at all of their stats, they are
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  Speaker 1: getting outgained. They have more turnovers, less time of possession,
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  Speaker 1: and yet still they found a way to 3-1. So
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  Speaker 1: that seems like it could be a little bit fraudulent.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Jets... are a team who the defense
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  Speaker 1: has played a little bit better than you expect, but
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  Speaker 1: then they got exposed by Ben Johnson and the Chicago
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  Speaker 1: Bears the week before. And Geno Smith, much better than
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  Speaker 1: you would expect. The fact that Geno Smith still hasn't
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  Speaker 1: thrown an interception and has completion percentage numbers that are
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  Speaker 1: around the top of the league and is showing you
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  Speaker 1: what a guy like Garrett Wilson can look like when
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  Speaker 1: he has a real quarterback, Any Jets fan has to
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  Speaker 1: say that we've gotten as much, if not more, than
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  Speaker 1: we could expect out of Geno. Geno, I'd like you
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  Speaker 1: to get the ball out of your hand a little
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  Speaker 1: bit earlier. He's holding on to the ball. It's not
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  Speaker 1: just eye test. I've seen some stats breaking it down.
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  Speaker 1: He's holding on to the ball a little bit too much.
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  Speaker 1: He definitely needs to go ahead and let it go. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he goes 17 to 30. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: not great conditions. 182 and a touchdown. Very good opening drive.
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  Speaker 1: That opening drive of each half in the NFL is
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  Speaker 1: so important. You see it over and over again. It
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  Speaker 1: sets the tones for games. And, you know, we go
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  Speaker 1: right down the field. We end with a highlight reel
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  Speaker 1: touchdown for Garrett Wilson where he catches the ball coming
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  Speaker 1: across the middle, makes a spin move, and then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: goes ahead and high steps into the end zone. Wilson
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  Speaker 1: ends up with seven catches, 104 yards, and a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just nice. It's really nice to see what
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  Speaker 1: he looks like with a legit quarterback. You know, last year,
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  Speaker 1: Justin Fields, rugby player, you know, he didn't look so great.
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  Speaker 1: But now that he has Geno, who at least– We'll
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  Speaker 1: let it go and throw it down the field and
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  Speaker 1: has a decent arm on him. You get to see
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  Speaker 1: what he can be. And now hopefully the Jets can
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  Speaker 1: get some of those receivers that have been down. They're
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  Speaker 1: starting to look like maybe they'll be coming back in
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  Speaker 1: the next couple weeks. Really want to see what Cooper
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  Speaker 1: looks like. Guy had one big catch in the first
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  Speaker 1: game and then gets the high ankle sprain. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen him since. And A.D.? Adonai Mitchell. You really want
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  Speaker 1: to see what he's going to look like when he
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  Speaker 1: comes back. So the Jets really get a win at
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  Speaker 1: the best time, at the most important time. Now you're
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  Speaker 1: at 2-3. You have a chance to go into New England,
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  Speaker 1: get a big win there. And even if you don't,
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  Speaker 1: the Jets' schedule starts to look a little bit... You
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  Speaker 1: could see a real path for the Jets being 4-4.
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  Speaker 1: We lose this week, we're 2-4. And then you get
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins... And then I believe you get the right.
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  Speaker 1: And if the Jets are 4-4, you got to take
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  Speaker 1: a step back and look at it and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we'll take it. But the real story to come out
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  Speaker 1: of this last game, David Bailey. Number two overall pick.
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  Speaker 1: He has been under some scrutiny here recently, specifically because
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Arvel Reese, right here in New York, you know they're
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  Speaker 1: always going to be compared. People argued over who was
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  Speaker 1: the better player, the player that made more sense to
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  Speaker 1: take at number two. I personally wanted Reese, just from
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  Speaker 1: what I had seen in college and what people talked
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  Speaker 1: about his skill set, his versatility. And then you have
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  Speaker 1: Reese having games where he's getting– multiple pressures, game wrecker, and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's getting interceptions and shit. And then from
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  Speaker 1: David Bailey through, what, through three games or through four games,
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  Speaker 1: he only had two sacks. And people were like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But then he comes up with a
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  Speaker 1: six-sack game, seven tackles, three of those tackles were for loss.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just the statistics. It's not just that
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  Speaker 1: he got home. When you watch that game, he dominated
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  Speaker 1: that game. especially the second half. He absolutely dominated and
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  Speaker 1: had his imprint all over the game. So you got
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  Speaker 1: to be impressed with Bailey. I mean, it was in
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  Speaker 1: the run game as well. And his ability in bad conditions,
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: no gloves. I love that he plays no gloves, just
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  Speaker 1: barehanded out there. And he's able to not only get home,
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  Speaker 1: but even when he's not, Always, always be a factor.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what you need out of the number two pick.
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  Speaker 1: It was very, very good to see that for him.
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  Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden he's third in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: in sacks. And that's the thing. It's tough. You've got
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  Speaker 1: to look at the– from week to week to scrutinize,
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  Speaker 1: especially an edge rusher, is tough because you look at
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  Speaker 1: quarterback pressures and if they have a bunch of those
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  Speaker 1: but they don't get the sack, then you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, he's got to get home. He's
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  Speaker 1: got to get home. We need the actual sacks. But then,
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  Speaker 1: quite often, the sacks, they come in bunches. It's not
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  Speaker 1: often that a guy's just like, you know, gets one
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  Speaker 1: sack a week, one sack a week. No, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to have a week where he maybe doesn't have any sacks,
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  Speaker 1: but then he's going to have that week where he
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  Speaker 1: has two or three. And if you stack a couple
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  Speaker 1: of those in a row, all of a sudden, you
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: look like you're the man. You stack a couple of
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  Speaker 1: those zeros in a row, you get the opposite effect.
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  Speaker 1: So everybody needs to, you know, keep a cool booty
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, being out here and
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  Speaker 1: measuring these young players so much. But listen, last week,
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  Speaker 1: this time I was saying, David Bailey needs to get
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  Speaker 1: home and it looks like this guy over Reese is way,
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  Speaker 1: way better than him. So I'm a prisoner of the
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  Speaker 1: moment too. I'm a fan just like y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I think there's a couple of factors
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  Speaker 2: at play here. If you look at the giants defensive
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  Speaker 2: line on paper coming into the season, there's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a lot more opportunities for Reese just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: based off some of the names that they had, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even before Brian Burns got hurt and Dexter Lawrence got
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  Speaker 2: traded and, You know, you saw Burns, Thibodeau, a couple
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  Speaker 2: other guys, you know, who were really, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: really good players.
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  Speaker 1: Abdul Carter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Abdul Carter, a stud.
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  Speaker 1: He's balling, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. David Bailey's got a 24.7 double team slash chip
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  Speaker 2: rate right now. So basically, one of every four snaps,
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  Speaker 2: he's being doubled or chipped. And, yeah, it makes it
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  Speaker 2: a little harder to get home. So Bailey's impact is
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  Speaker 2: being felt just in different ways. He's just getting a
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  Speaker 2: lot of extra attention. He's clearly a guy, at this point,
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  Speaker 2: you know that's your defensive corner stuff. Like he is
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  Speaker 2: the dude you build that defense around now.
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  Speaker 1: I hope so. I'm not going to say clearly just because,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: you know, Jets fans, you know, we've, we were around
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  Speaker 1: for Vernon Goldstein, you know, I've seen, I've seen a
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  Speaker 1: guy like a, even like a Will McDonald at one point,
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  Speaker 1: you were like, yo, this is the guy, what a
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  Speaker 1: pass rusher that he is. But there's so many things
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  Speaker 1: like the thing about that most to me, the, by
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  Speaker 1: far the most encouraging thing that we've seen from Bailey
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  Speaker 1: thus far is that he looks like he knows how
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  Speaker 1: to play the run. That was the big knock on
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  Speaker 1: him coming out of college was that he couldn't set
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  Speaker 1: the edge and he was just a pass rusher. He
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: looks like he knows how to play the run, and
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have to win strictly on speed. He had
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  Speaker 1: a couple rushes this past week where he faked the
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: speed and just bull rushed and went straight through the
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  Speaker 1: right tackle and pushed him directly back into Deshaun Watson.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Give Deshaun Watson a little credit, too. You want to
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: talk about people being, you know, talk about surprises this year.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any bigger surprise than how well Deshaun Watson
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  Speaker 1: has played?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about the biggest surprise as a
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: disappointment being Justin Herbert. But no, you're right. Deshaun Watson's
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: played very well so far. You know, we had a
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  Speaker 2: meh game on Sunday. He did have three fumbles and
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  Speaker 2: lost one of them. But, you know, for the most
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  Speaker 2: part this season, outside of games two, three, and four,
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  Speaker 2: he has been fantastic. And, yeah, you do have to
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  Speaker 2: own it and say he's played pretty well. And his
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: play is definitely a big reason why the Browns are over.
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  Speaker 2: 500 at the moment. One other interesting stat for you.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go back to the rain here. You know,
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  Speaker 2: since 2022, 14 of the 35 Jets home games have
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  Speaker 2: been played in the rain. That leaves the league by
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  Speaker 2: four games.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, before the after the game, you know, Garrett Wilson,
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  Speaker 1: some people try to twist this and make it like
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: he was trying to like slight the Jets. But he said, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just football. You know, it's going to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: be ugly out there. You know, that's that's MetLife, especially
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  Speaker 1: in the wintertime. You know, that's what the weather is
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: going to be. And yeah, I mean, the thing about
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: MetLife that a lot of people don't realize, too, is
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: is that so the Meadowlands is like just like flat
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: and just like flat. And there's not a lot around.
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  Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's it's not super north New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a little it's definitely northern New Jersey. And
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  Speaker 1: it's just like flat. So like the wind. Actually, previous
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  Speaker 1: Giants stadium, I think, before MetLife was even a little
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  Speaker 1: bit worse when it comes to the wind. But, like,
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  Speaker 1: the wind and the cold, and that's why, like, you
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  Speaker 1: can't have a quarterback with a weak arm if that's
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  Speaker 1: your home team. That's where, if you look at those
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Jets teams back in the day, Chad Pennington, and he had,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: you know, Chad Pennington's arguably, he's had maybe the second
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: best statistical year of a Jets quarterback ever. And Chad
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Pennington had some real years where he was competitive and
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: he gave the Jets a shot. Everybody knows that Chad
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Pennington had a pea shooter for an arm. And if
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you look at the Jets teams under Chad Pennington, they
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: start off well, they tail off at the end. It's
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: because they got wintertime. And, you know, the whole AFC East,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you need an arm, man. You need a strong arm
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to be able to cut through the winter. And what
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you also need is a running game. And Braylon Allen,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the big thumper, he definitely provided that this past Sunday.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: 24 carries, 116 yards, game-winning touchdowns. showed a little bit
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: more nimble feet, showed the ability to break the big one,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: which many people say was the thing that was the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: big question mark with him here recently. And definitely not
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: quite the pass catcher out of the backfield like Brees
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Hall is, but there's definitely Jets fans. And I can't
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: say I haven't wondered it where I say, you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: we just signed Brees to this huge contract. Is Braylon
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Allen just as effective as him?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Brees.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Brees is one of these guys, similar like a Le'Veon Bell. B.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: John has this as well. Just very patient and then
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: wants to get that cut back or that pop outside
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and go. And that leads to some big runs. But
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: there's other times where maybe a four or five yard
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: run is a one or a two yard run. And
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Braylon Allen definitely hits the hole quicker than Brees does.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And he's obviously a much bigger man and can push
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: that pole and carry that pile, a lot more than
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Brees can. And so there's, it's definitely a question. And,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you know, as Brees gets healthy and comes back, especially
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: depending on how Braylon continues to assert himself in that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: role between now and then, it's going to be more
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and more of a question over, you know, who's the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: more effective back and who needs to be getting the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: bulk of the carries. Huge, huge game for him. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: then another thing that I noticed was, so during the game,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I had multiple texts with my pops and with my
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: boy Chad talking about how Tittman was just getting just
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: absolutely beat like a drum. Whenever there was like a,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you would see a replay and it's a play where,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you know, the run gets blown up or Geno's getting sacked,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: it's Joe Tittman getting beat over and over and over
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and over again. And then I see, I think it
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: was yesterday, I see on X highest rated Jets offensive
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: lineman from this past Sunday's game is Joe Tippman, pro
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: football focus. So I have, I've always, you know, there's
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: always some, there's always some things that come out that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: seem a little bit puzzling from what you're seeing. I test,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, okay, well maybe, you know, there's some
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: things I'm missing. I was keen on Tippman. I saw
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: multiple plays where he got beat. If he is the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: top rated, On PFF, I give PFF zero credence moving forward.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I don't ever, I'm never, it's one of those where
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: when it's in your favor, it's fun to be like, well,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: according to PFF. But then when it's not, you're like, well,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I'm officially on the, I don't know. Fuck PFF. I'm off.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: They think Thomas, that Tippman was the guy? I'm out.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I'm out on PFF. Bum, what do you think about PFF?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Look, you know how much I love Collinsworth. I love
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: PFF for being able to do the mock draft simulator.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I don't buy half of the grades. I don't know
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: what goes into it. And at least half the time,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I get the same thing you do. You'll
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: see a guy get highly graded. You're like, the same
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: guy just watched on tape either get beat six times,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: not be able to get some separation on routes, get
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: cooked by a receiver. It's all puzzling. So yeah, I
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: am in that part of PFF, big out. The mock
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: draft simulator, big time in. And that's about it. Also
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: wanted to go back to Jets quarterback seasons, talking about
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Chad Pennington. So by passing yardage, sixth best, Single season
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: all-time for a Jet. 3,120 passing yards. 22 touchdowns to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: six interceptions.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: 22 to six. And I bet he had a really,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: really high completion percentage.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: That year, too. He had a 104.2 passer rating that year,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: which was really nice. The other interesting thing about that
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: time is it still really wasn't that much of a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: passing league at that point. Oh, no. Yeah. So you
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: kind of wonder... if he is in an era like
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: this where there's a lot more obviously passing involved, what
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: he could have done.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen. Chad, he was never going to be that
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: great just because of the arm. The popcorn arm was
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: just always going to hold him back. But he's definitely
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a guy that if you put him in the right situation,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: he could be a very steady, you know, a dependable
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: quarterback for sure. But whenever you look at the stats,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: especially with the quarterback, You know, there's an era where
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it's like, OK, you know, the game just wasn't played
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: that way. The rules were a whole lot different. They
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: obviously very, very much, you know, favor the offense now.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And there's all this protection of the receivers. We see
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: we've seen a couple of guys get knocked out, including
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick knocking out Concepcion early in that game. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: then what's the dude's name? It's not York. What's that?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: There was a there was a look at the Browns
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: receivers for me. Yo, because that was the– honestly, like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: as much as the Jets go out and they win
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that game, okay, we're going to give them credit for
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: winning the game. Aaron Glenn, good job. We're going to
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: give him credit. You know, no huge blunders. Seemed like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: he knew what he was doing. And, you know, we're
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: going to give credit for that. But let's be realistic.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson didn't play his best game. I think the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: thing that you see from him, and he did kill
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the Jets with this a couple times, is that his
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: legs look more like they used to, and he's able
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to scramble– and get some first downs and kill you
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: when you think you got him on a third down.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: There's a couple times we had him dead to right,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and he avoided a tackle, and then ran for a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: little 15-yard scamper. But he has the fumbles. They have
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a punt in the fourth quarter that goes over the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: snap in the rain, goes over the punter's head. Jets
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: recover it inside the 20, and they're able to get
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a score there. And you had their receivers. So they
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: already had receivers injured. And then the Jets knock out Concepcion,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Minkah Fitzpatrick. They say it's dirty here. I just think
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it's so impossible for these guys to... you know, aim
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: for this moving target. He's catching him, trying to catch
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the ball. He's ducking that, all these things. And it's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: not like he hit him after the ball went through.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: He actually dislodged the ball by his hit. So, like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's he supposed to do? It's tough, very,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: very tough. Guys like, you know, a Ryan Clark could
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: never play in today's league. But without some dropped passes,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, they had some horrible drops. What are the
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Browns receivers' names?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you have another rookie– Denzel Boston.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Boston played well. Nice touchdown.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: He's an absolute stud. You have Jerry Judy still on
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the roster. Boston. You have Isaiah Bond, second-year guy. Had
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a little issue going into his draft year, which basically
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: allowed the Browns to sign him undrafted. You have that
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: guy in Tylan Wallace. And then you have your former boy,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Malachi Corley.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Malachi Corley. You said Bond was one of them?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Bond, yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Does he have, like, blonde dreads?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Does he now? I'm not sure. He played at Texas
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: for his– he played at Bama, and then he transferred
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: to Texas his final year of college.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. It's Isaiah Bond. Yo, this dude, he's– I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: don't understand how you play, you know, wide receiver in
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and this is how you catch the ball.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus. I mean, he had some horrid, horrid drops.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: You know, one late in the game when they were
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: trying to come back and trying to get a score
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to go back ahead after they were taking the lead
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Then the Jets took the lead
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and then Bond. I mean, just in the scene. Perfect, though.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Right in the hands. You know, he's not wearing gloves.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of guys know go no gloves in the rain.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: They feel like once those gloves get slick in the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: rain that they're even, you know, that your regular bare
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: hands would be even better. Yeah, I just, that kid sucks, man.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but he, you know, a couple times that
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: he just catches the ball and without that punt going
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: over the punter's head, just don't win that game. And,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you know, you feel totally different. But at the end
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of the day, it's a win or loss business and
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the Jets won. A.C. Thomas, shout to him. Great job
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: as a corner so far this year. He, you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: he's highly rated. I think his PFF somewhere else, who knows.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: But he's looking good wearing number one. Looks a whole
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: lot better than the guy who wore number one before him,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. That game in London, not this past week,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: but the week before, I watched him give up 100
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: yards in two plays. Yeah, man, that Sauce trade looking
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: better and better. The Colts suck. We're getting that pick,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and Sauce has fallen off of a clip. Cliff, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: shout to Quincy Williams. Quincy Williams plays his old team,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the New York Jets, and absolutely balls out. He was
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: all over the field. He had four forced fumbles. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: think only one of those ended up being recovered by
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the Browns. But damn, man, Quincy, Jesus, all over the field,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: in coverage, sacking a quarterback, in the running game, just fantastic. Fantastic.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And shout out to him. I was a big Quincy
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: fan when he was on the Jets. And I especially
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: loved the whole him and his brother both being on
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the team. I thought it was so dope. So he's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: a guy that I wish to be. I told my
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: dad before the game, I said, yo, watch out for Quincy, man.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Quincy coming back against us. He said back when he
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: was on the Jets, he said, if they trade me,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: it's going to be, you know, I'm going to do
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: my best to make it a nightmare. And he said
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: before the game, the nightmare starts today. And shit. He
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: stepped up and he did his thing. Shout to Quincy.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But Jets are able to get the win. Like I said,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: play the Patriots. All of a sudden, Patriots, who people forget,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: started off 1-2 last year. Drake May and the Patriots
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden look like they're pretty good. Now,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: they've done well these last couple weeks against two shitty defenses.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And so we're not sure, you know, what version of
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the Patriots we're going to get. But this Jets defense,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, top 10 and top 5 in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: some categories, they get a real test. Last time they
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: had a real test against Chicago, against their backup quarterback,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the Jets were not able to step up to the plate.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And now against Drake May and the Patriots this week,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: if they're able to pull off this one, now you
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: start looking at the season. Now we're 3-3. We could
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: be shit. You're looking at it like, oh, we could
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: be 5-3. 4-4 would feel great. 5-3, you're cooking with gas.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: So we'll see what goes on with these Jets. It's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: a wild week in the NFL. We'll talk about that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit more length. First though, Giants and the Redskins.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Giants skins end up in a tie. I hate, I hate,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I hate that it's ties, but I hate the ties exist.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: We had three ties in the NFL this week. I'm sorry.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Three overtime games in the NFL this week.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: One of them ends up in a tie. And for me,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I wish there was a different way, but Bob, I'll
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: ask you this. I mean, Football, you can't make them
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: play forever, right? So there has to be a point
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: where you say, all right, that's enough.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't make them play forever for sure, but
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: there is definitely a way to alleviate ties. I think
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the way college does it is fantastic.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: That's so not NFL, though. They're not going to do it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I think you should have kicked the ball off and
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: every team should get a possession.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: That's what you have to do in the NFL now.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the NFL, yes, except for the fact that
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the game is still timed instead of you know, like
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: in college, you start with 25-yard line or something like that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I would move the quarter back. I would move the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: overtime period back to 15 minutes. But, you know, when
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you also have, like, that's what I would do, especially
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: because teams, like, you look at what happened in the
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Monday night game where it seemed like the Bills were trying,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: both teams were just basically trying to take the air
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: out of football and kind of just get it to
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: one possession where, I think it should just be untimed
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: personally and just let each team get a possession and
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: you figure it out from there, but you have to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: kick the ball off and see what happens.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I'm with it. I'm not mad at that. Yeah, I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like that. It's better than what they have right now. Skadaboo, huge,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: huge fumble. You know, the Giants are going down. Jameis
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: is hot. Jameis is cooking. Skadaboo's cooking. He's running all
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: over the Redskins defense, you know, getting up, flexing and shit.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: And then he gets the ball punched out. And, you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: these NFL players are so good at punching out the ball.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: We saw it over and over again this week. And Skadaboo.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: is just absolutely crestfallen on the sidelines. And then Jalen
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Daniels and the Redskins offense. It's scary. Terry, he's running
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: up the sideline. They're going down the field. All looks good. Yo, man,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that shit that they did at the end, man, where
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you have Daniels, where it looks like he's supposed to
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: throw a passing play, throw it out of bounds. But instead...
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: He goes down in no rush to get up. There's
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: 12 seconds. Everybody acts like they have no idea what's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: going on. I have my feeling on it. But, Paul,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: what did you feel? And who do you lay blame
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: on more, Daniels or Quinn?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: All right, so first off, I got to do one
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: quick name correction. It's J. Lynn Daniels. J. Lynn Daniels
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: was the quarterback who cooked the Cowboys on Thursday night.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Everybody else in all sports is named Jalen. So, I mean,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: he wants to be the one guy.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Too many Jalens in the NFL, you know?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: NFL, NBA, everywhere.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, except there's only one great Jalen that we all
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: know who that Jalen is. But we can get to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: that at another point.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Listen, listen. I give props to the originator,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Jalen Rose. Think about this. No one was named Jalen
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: before him. Fab Five, Michigan, that was my shit. But
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: no one was named that before him. And now everybody's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: fucking Jalen. That's pretty impressive, right? You gotta, listen, you
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: gotta give props to the original Jalen, Jalen Rose, because
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: you have so many Jalen's after that in all of sports,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: in all walks of life. And they all have to,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you have to say they all originate with him.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, I'm as big of a Jalen
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Rose guy as you are too. I'm legit sad that
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: he's not an ESPN anymore. I thought them getting rid
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: of him was so dumb.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you see, did you see like some of
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the stuff with him going back and forth and then like,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you know, like Molly and Stephen A and the whole thing? Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So hold on.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: So he, so he talks shit about Stephen. He said
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: something about Stephen A and then somebody else was like,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: somebody else came in and was like, oh, Clearly he's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: mad because Steve Vinay, you know, that he clapped Molly. And,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you know, what's his name? You know, Jalen comes back
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and he says something. There's a whole back and forth
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: with that. But I was just surprised, like, that he
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: was willing to sit there and go back and forth
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: with somebody in the comments like that. I don't know, man.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I see. I like Jalen Rose. And I like Molly. Um,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and so I don't really want to, you know, they
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: were an actual real ass couple and everything like that
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: married and everything. So like, you know, um, I don't
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: really like commenting on shit like that too much. And
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: especially if there's nothing specifically that, you know, I find
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: funny around it, but, um, and then the whole, you know,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: with Molly and Steven, a, that rumor has been out
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: there a few times, but that's one of those things
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: where it's like, I almost feel bad just because Molly being, um,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: a beautiful woman. I feel like if she has a
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: close working relationship with any dude, that there's going to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: be a certain segment that immediately come up with that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: And who knows if there's ever any sort of, if
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: there's actually any type of truth with it at all.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Daniels, Jaden, Daniels or Quinn, who's more fault.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You know what? I actually saw Micah Parsons talking about this,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: this week too. He had said this on a podcast
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: interview or something where he basically said it's, it's Jaden's fault,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: you know, and, you know, for this, this stuff is
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: basically embedded into our brain as a defender. I know this,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: like the back of my hand is basically the way
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: he put it. I happen to agree here that it
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: is on the quarterback. And I actually really liked Micah
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Parsons point. You're in year three. This isn't your rookie
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: year anymore, where you can, you, if you get a
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: first down or something like that, you get a clock
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: stoppage in college. Like this is year three. And you
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: had a basically most of last year, to sit and
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: watch and really get a better understanding of situational football
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: instead of having to just live through the fire with
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: his injury and not being available. I think this one
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: is on Daniels. You have to know better. You've got
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: to know to throw the ball away or clock it, whatever.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: The last thing you can do in that situation is
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: take a sack. And he has to know better than
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: to try and run around or run away because you're
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: already running out of time anyway when you're doing that
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: and dancing around. You're way too close to kick a
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: game-winning field goal to do something that crazy. And their
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: teams have situational football coaches. Like, they literally have game
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: management coaches who talk about these things.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think this one's on the play.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Is it Jaden Daniels or is it Dan Quinn's fault?
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: It's both of theirs' fault. at the end of the day,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: what I like my quarterback to understand the situation and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: be able to manage that, make sure that, you know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that first of all, we only have two timeouts. And
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: at this moment we have no more. The way I
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: watched that, it kind of felt like the whole Redskins
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: team thought that they had another timeout. I'm sorry. Commander's team.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: My bad.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think that, the quarterback should know better,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: but also the coach at the end of the job,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: your job is to make this idiot proof to make
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: sure that this mistake cannot happen. You're on a headset.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: If you're not directly in Daniel's ear, then you at
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: least can get directly to the person who is, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: you make it very clear and you say it multiple times.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: You say it twice. Hey, we have, zero timeouts left.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: This next play, if it's not wide open, you throw
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: it over his head, and then we set up and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: we kick the field goal and we win the game.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: You have to make that crystal clear so there is
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: no interpretation. There is no room for error. Daniels, I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: also need you to be able to understand the situation
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: and not have anybody you know give you the different
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: scenarios you need to be able to look around time
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: clock score and you know know what it is that
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you need to do you definitely can't look like you
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: have no idea of what is going on when you
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: get put in that situation like he did is a
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: horrible look for them as michael parsons said people lose
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: their jobs over stuff like this and i just personally
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: feel like I still got to go with the head coach, man.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I still got to put it on the head. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: think that it's everybody's fault. Everybody should have done a
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: better job. I mean, I'm talking about even the, the,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: from the linemen to the receivers and everybody involved on
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: that play, you know, nobody was in a rush, but
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: once you go down right there with that amount of
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: time and the receivers way down the field, the game
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: is over right there. There's no way you're getting it
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: back and clocking it at that point. So yes, you
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: definitely got to be smarter there. And yeah, If I'm
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: the coach, it's up to me to make sure that
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: no matter what is going on, I don't let that happen.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: That I make it so crystal clear that it's idiot
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: proof that you can't make the mistake.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other thing with this too, for Quinn
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: at least, is where he's going to never have credibility
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: or ever get any grace is the whole 28-3 thing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Of course. That whole Super Bowl thing and his game
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: management there is just never, this is always going to,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: they're always going to bring that back and use it
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: against him. In this case, it's justified. Because, again, it's
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: just another point of bad game management by him.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Where it's not only bad game, it's egregious game management. Yeah. So, yeah,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: at that point, yeah, more than fair. There were a
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: lot of instances of horrible game management in the NFL
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Crazy week, man. I mean, like I said, three overtime games.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: It seems like every game was within a score. Almost
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: every single game.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Nine one-score games this week.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Nine. Nine games that were within one score.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Second most of the season. Wow. Second most of the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: week this season.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple weeks ago we had 12.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: That's surprising because it seemed like this week, like every
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: single game that I watched that I turned on was like,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I usually, you know, that first game, I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: usually watch just the Jets game. Sometimes I have on
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: red zone in the background, but then it gets a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: little bit ahead of the game and now it's messing
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: up my, so I kind of like to just focus
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: just on the Jets. And then I usually, especially towards
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the end of the Jets game, depending on what's going on,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: if it's not, super close in a nail biter that
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I like to get some witching hour in there and see, and,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you know, especially if the games are close. And as
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: soon as the jet game is off, usually those games
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that are super close are going late. And then the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: beginning of the next games, you know, I'm going with
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: red zone, picking up one game that I really want
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to watch in the late hour, late block and watching that.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, man, this week was interesting, man. It was,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: it just seemed like, you know, like I said, three
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: overtime games. You had the one tie. You had the,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: which game?
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: The other game. The Eagles-Jags game, I mean, the Eagles
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: kicked what felt like a winning field goal at the end,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: and they kicked the ball short. Jags take it back
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: enough for their kicker, who has a bomb of a leg,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to you know, to nail a 58-yarder with a backup
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: long snapper, too. Right.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Defensive tackle.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The hero of that Jags game was the holder
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: for the Jags.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: That dude made some impressive catches that, like, receivers and
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: major league shortstops would be impressed by.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he was nice. And then your Niners, they
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: went in a thriller. The Niners, I mean, are they
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the best team in football right now?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Hard to argue. But the Vikes look pretty good. The
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Chiefs look really good.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Vikings' defense looks pretty good.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing is it's dominant. And Kyler's getting
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: better as everything goes by. So that's, you know, Vikes
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: look good. And you know what? They'll have a chance
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: to decide in a few weeks.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Kyler's going to get hurt at least one more time
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: this year. And I just, you know, their offense to me. Kyler,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: no Kyler team is winning. I'm talking about the best
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: team in the league. I'm talking about teams that can
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. No Kyler Murray quarterback team is
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. I'm sorry. Not happening.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Their defense is raw, though. They're giving up like 12
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: points a game, right?
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Flores is just cooking again.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bringing all the heat, all the pressure. With the Niners,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: it's just all about can they stay healthy, man? I
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: feel like if they could stay healthy, they're always in
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: the conversation basically in this entire Shanahan era. And, yeah,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to me right now, I think you've got to say
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that they're the best team in the NFL.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: They look really good.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they look really good.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Mike Evans. Mike Evans is still that dude.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: He's still just– Mike Evans, any time touchdown, it's just–
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost a guarantee his entire fucking career.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: But can he stay healthy? He's the guy that it
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: makes me– like, he's the exact type of guy that
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it makes me nervous. Him, you got Kittle, you got McCaffrey,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you know, all those guys. You're just like, you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: can you get them to the end and can you
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: get them to the playoffs with them healthy? I mean,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: who would have thought that the Jets and the Rams–
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: would have the same record after five weeks?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody, to be honest. And I thought,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I think I had the Jets over five and a
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: half wins in one of these pick-em pools that I do.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: So I figured if they can get, because there are
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: should wins on the Jets schedule.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Two against Miami.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those two for sure. I thought the Titans were
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: a should win. I thought the Browns going into the
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: season was a should win. Yeah. I thought if they,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: and the Cardinals, I think is a should win.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: So that's five right there, in my opinion. If they
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: could steal one, maybe two against the Pats and the Bills,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: or one of those NFC North teams, it can really
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: get interesting.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: We'll steal one against the Bills. The Jets, even when
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the Bills are really good, the Jets always find a
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: way to steal one against the Bills.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: The Bills do some things still that concern me. Like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: they're that team who hasn't won anything, but acts like
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: they've won three Super Bowls. Like, they get off to
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: these fast cars.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think they act like that, or do you
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: think the media acts like that?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: No, I think the Bills as a team act like that.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: You look at what they do on paper. They did
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: everything they could on Monday night to lose that game.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: The Rams just– you know, the Rams can't kick. They
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: don't believe in kicking, and it came back and bit them.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: The Bills just make a lot of fundamental mistakes. They
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: do a lot of little– like if you want to
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: go back to bad game management, the most underrated bad
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: game management of the entire week was the Bills at
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: the end of the first half on Monday night. They
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: had a minute 50, three timeouts, and the ball, you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: like 20-yard line or so. All of a sudden, it's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: third down, and they're down to 37 seconds. They have
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: to use one of the timeouts to get reorganized, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen throws a pick.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no. It was bad.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: It was bad.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: And shout out to my guy, I Hate Sean, on
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Nick's Twitter. He's absolutely a heavyweight. He's the one who
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: organizes the Knicks basketball tournament every summer. and he's a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Knicks fan, he's also a Jets fan, and he's always
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: talking about the fact that, like, Josh Allen just gets,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: he's just like, he gets this silver spoon and gets these,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: you know, rose-colored glasses when it comes to the coverage
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: of him overall because he's, you know, when he's reckless,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, I like the arm punt right there.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: You know, like, they say, basically, and one of the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: points he likes to make, and I agree with, is
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that if you just switched You know, Josh Allen and Lamar,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: how different is the overall coverage and the consistent glazing
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: when it comes to those two?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I agree. I think, you know, Allen does some great things.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I wonder why that is.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I think Allen tries to do too much at times
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and put the whole thing on his back when he
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: really doesn't have to. Granted, you know, he was down,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: you know, with DJ Moore last week, but he still
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: had Khalil Shakir available. Still had Keyon Coleman available. Still
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: had Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox, and James Cook. That's the
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: other issue with the field draft. James Cook puts the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: ball in the ground too many times.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Come on, man.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: You can't have your starting– he's got four fumbles in
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: five games.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Four fumbles in five games and like two– And two lost.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, and two huge fumbles in just this past game. Yeah, dude, dude,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: he's got to get that figured out.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: He needs to go talk to– Joe Brady said as much.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: He needs to go talk to Tiki Barber. Tiki Barber
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: was a guy who was very fumble-prone, and then he
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: started holding the ball like in a way.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I've never seen before.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But then it went away. He stopped with the fumbles
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: at that point. Listen, yo, go find Tiki, okay? Go
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: find him and talk to him because, yeah, hopefully he
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't because obviously I want nothing but bad things for
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the Bills. I think Josh Allen is a next-level quarterback personally.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I mean– His ability late in games to do it
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: with his feet, do it with his arm. Does he
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: throw some picks?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I've always liked the kind of, you know, the gunslinger
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: quarterback going back to my Brett Favre and, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: even like a guy like a Steve Young back in
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the day. And I just think Josh Allen's excellent. I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: wish he was the Jets quarterback. Does he maybe get
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: that whole him versus Lamar and the way that they're
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: covered thing? Of course there's something there. We all know
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: what time it is. But overall, you know, I got
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to say that– He's a damn good quarterback. That's for sure.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: And real quick, one thing I wanted to talk about
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: real quick, I just wanted to make sure we didn't
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: gloss over. Shout out to Jameis.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Jameis' ball. I fucking love Jameis.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I love Jameis. Jameis is obviously just making us all
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: wait for the postseason career that is going to be
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. But he goes 33 of 54. Bad weather.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: They had him put it up 54 times, 326. Three touchdowns.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Was absolutely cooking in the second half, the fourth quarter,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and overtime. Shout to Jameis.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: You know what else is going for them right now?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: And him. He has finally gotten on the same page
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: as Malik Nabors. That's a problem for opposing defenses.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to just throw it to a guy.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like Mike Evans. Mike Evans
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: don't got to be open. Just throw it to him.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: He's basically open without being open.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Just throw it to him.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Malik Nabors is the same. Malik Nabors is an absolute dog.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: He's nice. It's pretty clear he was the best receiver
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: in that 2024 draft. So I don't know if you
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: want to allude to that, speaking of receivers in the
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: 2024 draft.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Well, so what I wanted to ask, When it comes
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: to elite neighbors, we're talking about receivers because this is
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: a big thing that's going on on Twitter right now
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: as far as who is better overall, neighbors or Garrett Wilson,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: and is Garrett Wilson an elite receiver? Oh, man. First
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: and foremost, this conversation, you have to begin with the
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks that Garrett Wilson has had. He had one year
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers. every other year was Zach Wilson. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: then last year he had Justin Fields and, you know,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: whoever else, like, I mean, come on. So he had
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: some Mike white in there. So I think it's very,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: very tough. I don't know if anybody's had it. Jesus boy.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: The fact that he even started any games, um, Quinn,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: some Brady Quinn, not, not, not Brady Quinn. Yeah, there
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: we go. There we go. Um, yeah, man. I think
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that that's a silly conversation just for that reason. It's
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: hard to compare. I think that Garrett Wilson shows you
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: continuously with the catches that he makes and just how
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: he performs on the field when he does get an
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: opportunity that he is absolutely an elite receiver in this league. But,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: you know, one of those Ohio State receiver you, right?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: They are wide receiver you now, unfortunately.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Well, and once again, it seems like they have a
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: generational wide receiver, but not too many receivers. you know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: years ago, Marvin Harrison jr. I've, I don't know. And
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: he just got traded over to the Texans. And that's
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see exactly how that ends
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: up working out. But I don't know if I've ever
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: seen a guy when he was in college thought that
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: he was going to be amazing. Not to mention, you know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: your Marvin Harrison son, you're bigger, stronger, faster than him.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: And seem like you have the same hands. obviously have
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: all the tricks of the trade, work ethic, all those things.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: And then he comes to the Cardinals and just lays
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: an egg. So now he gets to go somewhere else.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: And either this guy is just legitimately one of the
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: biggest busts we have ever seen, or we're going to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: see him blow up and then we're all going to
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: wonder what the fuck exactly is the problem in Arizona.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be the latter for sure.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Cause at this point, everything roots back to Michael Bidwell.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just, It's ugly over there. He's not great.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: There's nobody who really wants to be there. Also, Harrison
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: gets to reunite with his college quarterback, which always helps.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: You know, look what happened to Jamar Chase.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Worked out pretty good for him. Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: It should be interesting. But, yeah, man, wild week in
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: the NFL, as always. I mean, the League of Parity,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: it's always interesting, always fun to watch.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I did want to go back to Garrett real quick, though.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: What's up with him?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: One other– interesting argument for him versus neighbors is we
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: always talk about what your best ability is Garrett Wilson
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: hasn't missed many if any games elite neighbors has missed
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of games sure sure for me Garrett Wilson
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: is elite and I don't know if you know what
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Kay Adams said earlier today she was asking is he
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the most untradeable player in the NFL right now why
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: She was just basically saying he's just the most consistent player.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: He's a walking thousand yards who, no matter the court,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: he finds a way, even when it's like Brady Cook
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: and Tim Boyle, he's still going to some way, somehow
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: get his. To me, I'm going to say he's not
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the most untrainable, but he is elite is what I
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: will say.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with all of that. I saw people–
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: You know, when the Jets are 1-3, people are saying, hey,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: if these things really go bad and somebody wants to
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: give you, like, two firsts for Garrett, would you do it?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't want the Jets to trade Sauce or Quinton Williams.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And both of those look like good trades for the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Jets right now and have set us up where we're
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: going to have at least three, you know, first-round picks,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: not only just, you know, two seasons in a row.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: We just had three, and we're going to have another
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: three next year. So... I don't want– I almost never
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: want to get rid of the young talent for picks.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I don't– I'm lost for too long to be thinking
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: about the future. I want to win now. But I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: do really feel like Garrett is the type of guy,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the cornerstone that you build around. I want us to
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: be good enough that he's not demanding a trade before
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: too long. So that, to me, is what we need
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: to do as opposed to look to get rid of him. But, yeah,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I– like all those, everything that you're saying that Kay
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Adams said, I totally agree with a hundred percent. Um,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: love Garrett. Well, he does a great interview too. He
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: talks about all the right things. You could just tell
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: that he's a baller. He loves football, loves to compete,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: loves to win. And, um, it's just all about what
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: kind of a quarterback play, what kind of, um, what
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: kind of offensive line play we can put to be
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: able to give that quarterback some time to get the
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: ball down the field to him. And he's well on
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: his way to another thousand yard, uh, you know, All
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: pro or at least pro bowl season, for sure. For sure.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Anything else about the NFL? Anything else I'm not thinking about?
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: No, that was pretty much everything we covered. We covered
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: the entire drunkenness of the league. We covered that game management.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: And we gave Jameis his love.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: No doubt. So the New York Knicks, they are 0-4
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: in the preseason. Many people are losing their mind on
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Knicks Twitter. Let's switch up the hat. And so you
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: have us being 0-4. You have the contract disputes that
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: have been made very public by Karl-Anthony Towns and the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: way that he feels. You have the Knicks coming out
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: and saying that we are not going to negotiate any contracts.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: We are going to focus on the season. You have,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: is it the second apron and the lack of maneuverability
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and flexibility for the team? Or is it James Dolan
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: being cheap? James Dolan has never been cheap. I don't understand.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I don't understand how many people who are supposed to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: be like real pundits, real journalists that talk about this
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: and don't at all talk about the fact that we
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the ability to say, go get a
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Jose Alvarado last year. Everybody keeps saying, well, they have
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: a championship roster. They should do everything to keep it together.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: They should have kept Mitch. They should have done this.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen in the course
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: of a long season. You don't know if next year
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, in February, you're going to have a
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: move that you need to make, and now you don't
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: have that ability because you're in the second apron. You
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: don't know over the course of the season what is
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: going to come up as a potential deficiency. You don't
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: know what's going to happen with injuries. I just don't
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: think that people are putting enough credence and understanding and
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: enough of a a focus on what the second apron
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: does to a team as far as their ability to
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: be flexible. So I think that's a bigger factor than
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: the money. I do think that Dolan figure, Dolan doesn't
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: like the fact that some of that money, if he
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: has to pay in luxury tax, goes to other teams.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: These other teams that don't have the fan base, they're
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: not in a city like the Knicks are. Some of
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: these owners don't necessarily own the arena they play in
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: like dolan does they don't have the local tv contracts
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: which dolan and the knicks are getting fucked on that
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: because now with all these games not being on msg
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: because they're on one of the you know 17 different
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: networks that you have to fucking be inspector gadget to
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: find out where the game is um every single night
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and so that's less games on local msg which obviously
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you know knicks fans we know show up bigger and
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: better than any other fan base That's not just in
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: opposing arenas. That's also when it comes to watching and
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: being dialed into the team. So therefore, I can totally
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: understand why Dolan doesn't want to go deep into the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: tax and give all his money to these other owners.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: You know, they're looking at him at the meeting like, hey, Jimmy,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: how you doing? Halfway fucking smirked all the time. And
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: he's probably annoying. He's probably very annoyed by them. And
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: some people are kind of making it where it's like
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: him versus Kat. And I don't really think that's what
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: it is. I think Cat is one thing that people
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: got to also remember. Cat is the vice president of
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the players union. So all this take a whole lot
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: less money type shit. When you vice president of the
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: players union, there's only so much you're going to do
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: something like that. Because to you, it is everybody's job
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: to make as much money as possible. That trickles down
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and that makes it better for everybody. Now, You have
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the owners taking the second apron and treating it like
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: it's a hard cap. Everybody keeps acting like, oh, you know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the Knicks refuse to do it and Dolan's so cheap.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be in the second apron. And when
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: teams do get into the second apron, they usually get
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: out of it fairly quickly. And we've seen championship teams
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: here recently get blown up trying to avoid being in
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: or staying in the second apron. Denver, the Celtics. OKC
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: is about to have some real tough decisions. The Spurs
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: at some point will have some very tough decisions.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: OKC has already made some tough decisions. They actually just
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: should be. And that second apron is basically like operating
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: out of a straightjacket. I know we talked about it earlier,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: but yeah, there's a lot of things that you can't do.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: You can't combine multiple players in a trade. You can't
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: do a two for one trade basically. So you can't trade,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: you know, two, you know, random guys to get one
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: star or You can't take more salary back in a transaction.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: You can't use any of those trade exceptions.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Or cash.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing. Like there's literally, that second apron is like
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: literally a hard cap.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm saying, man, and you know, you got to listen.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I trust Leon. I don't even look at the roster
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: right now and say, okay, we're set. I know that
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: come February, we're going to get set. We're going to
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: get right. And we're going to be ready to, you know,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: take another title run. And I'm not too worried about
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: preseason games. Look, I would like the Knicks to look
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. I have some questions. Drummond has
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: looked very good. Wiseman, I think, should get that last
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: roster spot. Though, I was listening to Ian Begley today,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: which you know, Ian Begley is about as tapped in
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: when it comes to what's going on in New York
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: him and CP to franchise are the two guys who
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, okay. If they say this, then there's some,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: this shit is real. And Begley says he feels like Brown, um,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: is going to end up on the roster somehow. Bruce Brown.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: They say that his versatility, his veteran leadership, um, and
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: the different things that he can do off the bench,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: they feel like, uh, you know, could be something that
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: are real is really important to this team. And then
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like we have to have a third center.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: So that's either you banks or it's, um, Wiseman, and
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's Wiseman so far. We've seen Wiseman show
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: the potential. If you get Wiseman to be 75% of
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: what his potential is, that's a huge win. And the
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Knicks are at a point where they can gamble at
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: the end of the roster because they feel really good
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: about the beginning of the roster, about the starters and
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: that first eight to nine to ten players. So you
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: can gamble. And I think that Wiseman is a good
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: guy to take a gamble on. But Begley says that
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Bruce Brown. So I think Dottie is about to hear.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I think we find a way to get rid of Dottie. Dottie,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but he just we've we've given him, you know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: plenty of time, plenty of runway. And I just haven't
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: seen it from Dottie. And, you know, I still think
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: that Deuce is a guy who can contribute. But I
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: tell you, when Deuce's jump shot ain't on. The rest
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: of his game, leave something to be. It's just, yo, man. Again,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: he still can't dribble. Yesterday, at one point, he tried
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: to do some shit where he put the ball between
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: his legs and behind his back and did some shit.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Me and my dad were texting each other. We were
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: laughing because it was like, he had to pick up
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: the ball because he's about to lose that shit he's
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: gotten the ball just straight up he's gotten his pocket
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: picked multiple times he's dribbled off his foot out of
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: bounds multiple times in just this preseason and Deuce when
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: he's hot man he is a hell of a fucking
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: shooter But I'm telling you, more and more defenders, you
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: can see it already in this preseason, they're just up
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: in his chest. Like, make a jump shot. And he
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: gets the ball, and there's a couple times, especially in
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: last night's games where none of the starters played, none
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: of the starters or Shamit played, and so Deuce got
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: extended minutes. And what you saw from Deuce was when
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: he was giving the ball late in the shot clock
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and a guy was on him, he's just trying to
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: do something to give a little hesitation and get into
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: a jump shot. He's got that high arc, and he
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: gets a lot of lifts, so he's able to get
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it off. And when he's got a guy right up
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: on him, that shit is missing. You know, Deuce, I
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: just can't figure out why this guy can't work on
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: his handle. I see OG as accomplished as he is.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: And I feel like OG's handle looks a little bit tighter,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: which I think is the next level for him to take.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: A little bit more handle, a little bit more mid-range
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: game to go with, you know, being just a knockdown
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: three-point shooter and being fantastic going to the basket. And
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: that handle will help him be able to go to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: the basket more. That's another thing with Deuce is that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Deuce actually has a little bit of spring. I was
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: going at it back and forth with somebody on X
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: the other day. They were talking about, you know, because
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Peyton Pritchard got his extension there. Like, Deuce has to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: be looking at this like, I want similar money. Pritchard
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: is so much better than Deuce. He's a way better
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: basketball player. And a lot of it starts with the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: fact that he has a handle. He can dribble. Deuce
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: can't dribble. So with the fact that Deuce can't dribble, also,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: he can't get to the basket. So he's literally a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: one-trick pony. Defensively, he plays hard. He used to be
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: more of a nuisance and a menace than he is
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: right now. And he is not able. We saw it
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: last year against CJ McCollum. No matter how hard he plays,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: he's six foot one, six foot two. Unless he's playing
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: against an opposing point guard, any shooting guard in the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: league is getting him to a spot, raising up and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: getting the shot that he wants. So Deuce needs to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: step it up for sure. Tyler Kolick, man. I'm still
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: waiting for Kolick to do a little something more. We
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: know he's a great passer, a great distributor. There's times
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: where he's looked like he's offensively capable. He's not aggressive enough,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, as far as getting in there, shooting
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: that little floater, getting all the way to the rim.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: If he did that at a higher clip, he would
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: actually be able to facilitate more. Because defenders that play
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: against him, once he drives, they're playing him to pass.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows this guy led the nation in assists his
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: senior year. He's a guy that we gotta, you know,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: make sure that we're cutting off passing lanes, getting in
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: passing lanes, and they're backing off of him. He needs
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: to be more aggressive. Defensively, he's somewhat limited. He's not horrible.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: He's somewhat limited. But he's a guy... Kolek should just
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: be I mean, he's got Brunson right there. You got it. Lefty,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: not super athletic. Brunson is obviously much more of a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: score-first player than Kolick is, but he should be doing
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: all the footwork, you know, off-two-feet drills that Brunson is doing,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: and he really has to improve his all the way
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: to the basket, his right hand, because he's left-handed, and
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: his floater game. He's got to do it. But, you know, hey,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: next Tuesday we tip off It's Knicks versus Bron Bron
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: and the Bronettes from Philadelphia. And the Knicks will be
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: getting their rings. The Knicks will be raising a banner.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. And then we get started for real.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I just need the Knicks healthy and one of the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: top three seeds, top four seeds going into the playoffs. Now,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: if they're playing like shit, especially if they're playing to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: a fourth seed, then I'll be a little bit annoyed already. Already?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: There's people talking about the starting lineup again. Statistically, it's
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: not very good. And if you look at last year's
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: playoff run, what are we doing? We're always coming from behind.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: But after you win a chip, it's kind of hard to, like,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: you know, have any issues with the starting lineup. But
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: it's just, it's not. Statistically, the statistics are so strong
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: that it's hard at this point to deny what these
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: metrics say over a huge, huge sample size. So that'll
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: be a storyline for sure. Third center, Mitchell Robinson, what
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: he's doing in Boston will be a storyline. There's, of course,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the obligatory Mitch during the summer, handling the ball and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: hitting jump shots. I saw a lot of Boston fans
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: who were excited and be like, yo, is he unlocked?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: And it's like, dude, that video comes out every summer.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: That's like the Ben Simmons hitting jump shots video. That
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: shit comes out every single summer. Even though I've heard
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: some shit that Ben Simmons is looking pretty good out
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: there in Sacramento. Shout out to Ben Simmons, man. Look,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not a Ben Simmons hater. I think that what
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: he needs to do more than anything else is say,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: fuck everybody else, fuck what everybody else wants, and just
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: be like, yo, I'm just going to be a star
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: doing what I do well. Fuck jump shots. Play great defense, rebound,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: run the floor. With him, if he can stay healthy,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: he's an effective player. Don't ask too much of him.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Don't ask him to take shots, be willing to take
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: shots late in the game. No, no, that's not what
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: he does. That's an interesting subplot to me this year
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: is what happens with Ben Simmons. I think the Celtics
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: out east are going to be good. I think that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: the Knicks' biggest threat in the east is Toronto. Healthy
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Toronto with Kawhi. Scotty Barnes looked nice in that preseason
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: game yesterday. You can already see that the Knicks jersey
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: is already the heaviest jersey to wear in the league
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: with the amount of scrutiny that you get. and with
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: the amount of effort that you get from opposing players
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: on a nightly basis, whether you're home or away, that
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: shit is only going to get worse. I saw Ant
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: come out like, and Ant, fuck, Ant looked good. You know,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Minnesota's going to be a problem. I just, when it
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: comes to big moments, end of game, playoffs, let alone finals,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: And one of the main ball handlers and people that's
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: making decisions is LaMelo Ball. I got to see it.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I got to see it go right before I'm willing
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: to say. But I tell you, man, they fucking look good.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I know it's a preseason game. Knicks played a whole
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: lot of their starters early. Ant looked fantastic. He looked unstoppable. Mid-range,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: three ball, to the rim, defense. They look fucking good.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: And I think they could be a problem. And I mean,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: in like Scottie Barnes, Jalen Brown, all these guys look
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: like they were, you know, they know who the Knicks are.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: They know who the champs are. So Knicks got to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: be ready for that all season long. Your boy just
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: got a new lawn flag delivered. So I had a
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: New York Knicks lawn flag. I had a Mets one
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: as well that didn't go up at all this season.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And because the Knicks one stayed up and the Mets
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: definitely didn't deserve to be displayed. on the front lawn
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: this year. But the Knicks flag stayed up, and this
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Arizona heat, by the time it went down, it was tattered.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: It was messed up. I'll put a before and after,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: the old one and the new one. I'll put a
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: picture up tomorrow on my socials. But it was old
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: and baby blue and ripped up and tattered and whatnot.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: And my wife was like, what are we doing? We
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: have to get a new flag. And I was like,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: that's a championship flag. We want to chip with that flag.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: So that flag is staying up until next season. And
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: then I just ordered a new flag on one side.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: It's like blue Knicks logo, you know, says 25, 26 champions.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Other side is orange with like the Knicks circular old
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: school logo says, you know, 25, 26 champions on there.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: And we put that up yesterday and you know, it
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: looks great. It looks fantastic out there. It's blowing in
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: the wind. And so it's still, still fucking good to
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: be the champs, man. It's still good to be the champs. I'm,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not coming off of that at least till the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: end of the season. And no matter what, it will always, always,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: always be something that is so dear to my heart. Me,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: my father, and my son together watching the Knicks, you know,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: and the drought after 53 years. That shit, it'll never
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: get old. It'll be something that I cherish for the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: absolute rest of my life. We talked about the NFL.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: MLB playoffs, what's the score right now with 4-2 Brewers?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we missed a pretty big eventful seventh inning here.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: The Brewers went back-to-back top of the seventh. Jake Bowers
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: hit a dong to give the Brewers 3-2 lead. Garrett
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Mitchell chased it with another home run. So, yeah, 4-2
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee right now, bottom of the seventh.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Yo, man. Has Otani done anything?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: He did hit a single earlier.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, been a lot of talk about him and,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: you know, his lack of production this postseason, whether or
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: not he's injured. And the Brewers bullpen is just so
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: fucking good. And, you know, they right now are in
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: a position to take a commanding 3-0 lead in the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: NLCS against the, you know, the highly touted and huge
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: payrolled Los Angeles Dodgers. And I hope that what this
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: means is that David Stearns, it just takes some time
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: for him to build like a true winner because he
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: was the architect. of that Brewers team, though he hasn't
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: been there the last two seasons. But a lot of
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: those guys are his doing and him bringing a lot
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: of those players in. But the Brewers, man, they just,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: to me, this is the issue that the Yankees have.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: And it is something that, you know, I've been screaming
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: going back to the 2015 World Series that the Mets
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: lost to the Kansas City Royals. When it comes to
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's about pitching. It's about contact. I know
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: everybody wants to hit home runs. And, you know, obviously
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: everybody's talking about launch angle and this and that. And,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: you know, you got a whole bunch. You got guys
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: hitting in the low 200s that are starters in the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: major leagues, which is bullshit in my opinion. It's a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: shittier game to watch. And I think that over the years,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: you keep seeing over and over again that the teams
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: that end up winning it are the teams that put
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: the ball in play, they play strong defense, and they pitch.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Exactly. If you go back to that Royals team, so
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to throw in a little Giants reference here.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Like the Brewers, this iteration of the back end of
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: the Brewers' bullpen is the best bullpen that I've seen
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: since the Dynasty Giants. But the difference between those Giants
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: teams and those Royals, both those teams put the ball
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: in play. And when they played a series against each other,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: it was great baseball. You know, because there wasn't a
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: whole lot of striking out. It was a lot of
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: ball in play and great pitching and great defense. Those
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: are the teams that win in the playoffs. If you
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: look at the Yankees, the Yankees' defense was laughable. Like,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: it was god-awful. I mean, and it's just the same old,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: you know, excuses with them over and over. I think
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: personally they're a soft team.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about Aaron Boone?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I think he's a very overrated manager.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: He sucks.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's very good at all. Granted, you know,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: missing Aaron Judge doesn't help.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: No doubt. No doubt. But Aaron Judge didn't have you
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: make three errors in, you know, the first inning. And
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day– They don't do necessary things. Yeah, yeah. Listen,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of my, almost all my friends
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: who are Yankee fans, they hate Aaron Boone. I just
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: think he sounds like a stooge always whenever I hear
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: him talk. That whole soundbite, my guys are savages in
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: the box. I thought that shit was corny as fuck.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: He's whiny.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just, you know, it seems to me
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: like he is a puppet and he doesn't seem like
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: he has a lot of fire. He doesn't seem like
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: he's a guy who's out there making decisions depending on
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: his overall feel of the game. And in baseball, I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: need a guy who is going to use the analytics
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: to influence decisions, but at the end of the day,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: choose his gut. That's my skip.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: You might not live and die by him. I mean,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: if you look at Kevin Cash in Tampa, remember five
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: years ago during that shortened World Series when he just
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: took out Blake Snell after 70 pitches and he was dealing? Yeah. Like, yeah,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: we can't see stuff like that.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Nah, nah. I need a little bit of nuance when
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: it comes to how my manager makes decisions, for sure.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that Brewers bullpen, they continue to be dominant.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: And then you got Guardians-Rays. That series is all tied
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: up one-to-one. And the other thing is that you have
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: owners out here talking about how we need a salary
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: cap for things to be competitive. And three out of
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: the four teams are teams that historically don't spend money.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So, um, this is, uh, this is going to
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: be a tough one for the, we, uh, you got
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: anything to pour out for the poverty franchises on this one?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Uh, you know, at the end of the day,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: you got to take a step back and you got
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: to say, it really is just about good management. Um,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: you know, a good front office that, that, that not
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: only develops a, a, an entire system farm system that is,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: but also understands the right type of team construction and
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: the right type of players to make you successful in October.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: The Brewers analytics department, like their roster of like front
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: office people is crazy. It's like more than their actual,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's like on par with their 40
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: man player roster. So they have a lot of things
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: going on at all levels of their system. Also, I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: want to shout out this girl went to college with
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Ginger Poulsen. She's a scout for the Brewers and yeah, crazy, right?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: they're just doing, they're doing it really well over there.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: They know that they're not gonna spend money. They draft
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: and develop insanely well. They make these trades. Like they
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: ended up with Kyle Harrison this year from the Red Sox.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: They got a couple other guys in that deal too.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: David Hamilton. They've found ways to maximize those guys. Although
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Harrison fell off a cliff, but early in the year,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: he looked Cy Young good. Hey, look, we maximize it.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: It's, it's all about getting the most out of players.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: And clearly there's some organizations that, are very good at that,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: and some are not. The Mets, Freddy Peralta. Hey, how
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: did he look? Now he's throwing seven innings of brilliant
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: ball for the Rays in the ALCS.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Fun fact, that was the first time he ever completed
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: six innings in a playoff game last night.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he pretty much is a five-inning pitcher. When the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Mets first got him, and I was really excited, and
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: then I went and I looked at his stats, a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: lot of five innings, a lot of five innings, five innings.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: If he goes six, you feel good. But no, in
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, when it's time to step up, he throws
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: mostly fastballs. He has a fantastic outing and gets his
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: team a win. And you have to look at that
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: if you're the Mets and say, what is it about
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: us that we weren't able to get that out of him?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Beyond the fact that we fucking stupidly punted on a
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: generational all-time Met, then the guys that we do bring in,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: they don't perform up to what they typically have before.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: So is that a coincidence or is that a organizational
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: issue which again we look how well the brewers are
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: doing and our guy is the guy who who built
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: that oh are we not building a similar analytics team
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: you would think especially with uh an owner who's a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: hedge fund guy you would think analytics would be would
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: it be everything so far it ain't meant shit when
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: it comes to the new york.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Mats There's also just certain things that analytics can't measure.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Analytics can't measure how much somebody means to a clubhouse.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: And clearly, I mean, it goes pretty obviously here that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: David Stearns did not measure how much Pete Alonzo meant
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: to the Mets clubhouse.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Clubhouse and fan base.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, it's just, it's one of the more
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: egregious miscalculations you'll ever find. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, Stearns had some interesting stuff to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: say in his, his final press conference of the year.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Just as far as, like, you know, both, ah, well,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: I kind of missed the boat on, you know, on
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Pete as far as, like, obviously he's had a great
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: year and everything. But then it also says, like, he
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: made a comment about how, you know, we had no,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: we didn't have a column in our chart for, you know, fan.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember what the exact was. I talked
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: about it the other day. I brought it up. But
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know. I see the Brewers and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: I think to myself, all right, well, maybe hopefully this
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: guy Stearns is laying on the groundwork for a sustainable winner.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: But I'll never forgive him for Pete Alonso.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: So for me, it's always going to be Fire Stearns. Yo, Rangers. Igor,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: out for the year.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Brutal loss.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Brutal loss.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Very hot start.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Very hot start, though, for the Rangers.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: My guy Albert Smith, the rookie defenseman, he was the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: guy I personally wanted, who I thought the Sharks could
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: realistically get in the draft. But then we ended up
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: getting the number two pick by the grace of God.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: So we ended up with Ivar Stenberg, which, you know,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: I'll take that. But Smith is a stud. When the
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Rangers ended up with him, I was really fired up
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: for that. He looked great in the Olympics as an
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: 18-year-old against Pretty good NHLers.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Listen, I have not gotten fully committed to the Rangers
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: just yet. I need a little bit more from them.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I need a little bit more from them. I need
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. You know, my dance card is
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: quite full. But if the Rangers are in the playoffs,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch every single minute. But, you know,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: we get midway through the season. If we're still looking
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: like a decent, you know, upstart team, I'll start watching
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: more for sure. They'll get the second screen. They'll get
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: the second screen. Probably not top screen because there's some
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: nicks on, but they'll get to second screen. And, you know,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: it just sucks what happened with Igor, man. Horrible injury,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: gross-looking injury, and, you know.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: We were at the wedding when we found out, but
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: neither of us watched the video. Yeah, yeah. Remember, we
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: were going to the bar to get beers when it happened.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: You just can't replace a guy like that. He's one
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: of the top three goalies in hockey.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: I know, and he's having a good year. He's scoring
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: a couple goals and shit.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Using the Art Ross bags. That's crazy.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Tough one, tough one. Yo, did you play the game
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Street Fighter as a kid at all?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: A little bit, but not much.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: So I was a big Street Fighter guy. I was
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: a Street Fighter over Mortal Kombat guy from the time
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: I was young. Street Fighter II Turbo on the Super
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Nintendo was my shit. You know, I'll still whoop up
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: somebody if you give me an arcade. A little Marvel vs.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Capcom or any other Street Fighters. And they're coming out
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: with a movie called weekend you got 50 cent in
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: it my man Andrew Schultz who's a very funny stand-up
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: comedian that I've been following for quite some time I
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: watch the podcast every week so I've been seeing him
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: you know through the whole process of making this movie
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: and now promoting this movie you got the guy from
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Warrior playing Ryu. You got Cody Rhodes is in there
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: playing Guile. And then you got Jason Momoa playing Blanca.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: And what's the young lady's name that plays Chun-Li? I'm
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: about to look that up. Shout to her for really
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: embracing the role. There's this whole thing where she measured,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: and this is from her. So I'm not objectifying this woman.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: This is what she said. She kept, you know, really,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: if you know the overall rendering of Chun-Li, she's got
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: very large thighs. And the young lady who's playing her
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: really embraced that, said that she was measuring her thighs,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: measured them from beginning to end of the movie, and
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: they were getting bigger. Um, and she just like, I mean,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: as far as like just the way that she, you know,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: just the aesthetics, she looks exactly like her, uh, Kalina Liang. Um, yeah,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Kalina Liang is her name. And, um, I'm excited for
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: this movie, man. I don't, you know, I don't go
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: see too many movies in theaters. I think I'm gonna
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: have to go check this one out in theaters. I'm
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go check it out, man. Cause, uh,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: it's a video. It was like literally my favorite fighting game.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite video games of all time as
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: a kid. And, um, I just think that the cast
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: is going to be good. and the amount of effort
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: that they're putting into promoting it, I know that they
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: think that it's got a chance to really do something.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm interested in Street Fighter. Baum, anything else before
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: we get up out of here?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't have anything else on new topics. There were
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: a couple things I wanted to go back to on
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: the Knicks, actually, when it comes to Deuce McBride and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: contract extensions. Brandon Pachemski's recent extension a couple days ago
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: also is one that McBride could look at as a
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: six-man type of thing.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Potts is so much better than McBride.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: He's not that good, man.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not even saying he's good. He's so much better
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: than Deuce. Like, if Deuce thinks he's going to get
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: anywhere close to that money, he's not. I mean, the
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Knicks simply can't give it to him. They just can't.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. Nor should they. Do you
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: see what Christoph Porzingis had to say about us all today?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I know that he's out again and it's
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: like some sort of mystery illness.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: It's the, uh, the illness he's been probably dealing with
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: the last year, the POTS, uh, the autoimmune one, uh,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: that kind of zaps you and knocks you out. So
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: he basically, you know, made a public, the Warriors publicly
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: stated today that he's out. Definitely. He's going to be
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: with the team, yada, yada, yada. Like a couple of
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: days ago came out, but he didn't know where he was. Um,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: but no, they, he's back with it. They said he's
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: back with the team. He met with the trainer and
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: the GM, all that. Um, So Porzingis tweeted out, you know,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: thank you for all the wishes. I'm just doing better.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: He concludes his tweet with, no, I don't have HIV
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: or AIDS.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, I've heard people be like, yo, what the fuck
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: does he have going on? What does he have? I've
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: heard people say shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he tweeted out today that he does not
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: have that. I mean, honestly, the one thing it kind
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: of reminded me of This is like the written version
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: of when Mike Piazza had that one press conference back
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: in the day of when he had to tell the
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: New York media about his status on certain things.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had to tell everybody he wasn't gay. That
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: rumor was big in New York for a long time. Yeah,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: that rumor was big. That was one of those that
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: was always out there and was always spoken about. But
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: who fucking knows? I don't care. But yeah, man. Porzingis, look.
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  Speaker 1: I think that a healthy Porzingis totally changes the outlook
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: for that Warriors team.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you look at their roster, like the
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: back of their roster is actually pretty decent. It's just,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: can they keep the top of the roster in one piece?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing. Steph's not going to play every game.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: It's just a sad reality of life. But they have
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: a guy who could spell him for a game every
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: now and then at Brandon Williams. And, you know, Pachemski,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: if he's going to get $ 110 million, they got to
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: believe he can spell him for a couple games too
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: here and there. you know, dream on Horford. Can they
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: get Jimmy back at a reasonable time and just keep
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: it together? Just keep it together for a few months
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: while he gets healthy. The kid Lenda Borg. I love
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: this kid. I think he's the perfect player for that. Yeah.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: This group. Yeah. Is he a number one? Is he
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: going to ever be a number one? Probably not. He
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: can be a number two or number three on a
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: championship team.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Number three. I mean, but eight, I think he's a
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: solid player, and like you said, I think he's a
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: good fit. He gives them some length, some athleticism, and
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: he looks like he's going to be able to give
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: them some defense as well. And I just, you know,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I like his game. I think that the Warriors are
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: an interesting one because I think that they could be
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: anywhere from like a fourth seed to a tenth seed,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised anywhere in between. And I
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: like the fact that Steph is kind of like being
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit indignant, like... playing making the playoffs that's
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: what we are like he almost has to come in
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: with that type of energy for not just himself but
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: for the entire team because obviously they're going to take
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: on his personality to a certain extent with him being
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: you know the the not just the best player on
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: the team but like one of the most influential and
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: best players if in an of an era in the
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: entire nba so i think.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: It's good yeah the other thing is they're going to
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: change a little bit stylistically too they finally realized okay
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: we can't just run and gun up a floor and
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: You know, they're going to play more five out this year.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: They're not built like that.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: No, they aren't. And it's a shame that it took
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: three years to realize it, but I'm very curious to see,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: you know, how this new five out plays. Can they
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: cut down the turnovers? They've been one of the worst
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: turnover teams in the league for a couple of years now.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: You can't get by with that anymore with who they are.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: You have to, you have to win in the margins.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: And that's what is being stressed coming out of camp.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Be interesting. NFL week six. We got also
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: the NBA opening up next week. So next week's show
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: will be fun. Yeah, man. Been getting a lot of love, man,
• 1:24:52
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• 1:25:06
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  Speaker 1: Independent Nick. Baum, real quick, plug your fantasy podcast.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do the Fantasy Football Today podcast on Sports Ethos.
• 1:25:17
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• 1:25:20
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• 1:25:24
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• 1:25:28
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• 1:25:30
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• 1:25:32
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• 1:25:34
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• 1:25:36
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• 1:25:41
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• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: appreciate all the love for sure. Yeah, justice for Nolan Wells.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: We're going to keep saying that. We're going to keep
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: saying that until we find out what really fucking happened
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: to that young man. And other than that, it's your
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: boy NIC. Peace. Peace.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: I believe.