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- 0:08Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez, powered by politiweek.com.
- 0:13Speaker 2: And Rich Valdez is with us, former Christie administration official.
- 0:15Speaker 3: You worked for Chris Christie, you've been in politics, done
- 0:17Speaker 3: a lot of public service stuff.
- 0:18Speaker 4: Rich Valdez, columnist now with the Washington Times.
- 0:21Speaker 5: This is America.
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- 0:25Speaker 5: This is America with your host, Rich Valdez.
- 0:29Speaker 4: What's up, America? I am Rich Valdez. Valdez with an
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- 0:35Speaker 4: Your liberty-loving Latino amigos 17 blocks away from Madison Square
- 0:39Speaker 4: Garden right here in Times Square, New York City. Blessed,
- 0:42Speaker 4: honored to be here with you, this wonderful audience. It's
- 0:44Speaker 4: the Wednesday night edition of This Is America, our late-night
- 0:48Speaker 4: national town hall conversation.
- 0:50Speaker 6: And I want to hear from you. Give me a call, 877-VALDEZ, 1-877-NATO. 825-3371.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Let me know what you want to say and we
- 0:59Speaker 4: will air it during our Open Phone America segment. And
- 1:03Speaker 4: it's Wednesday night. The energy is electric out there. I'm
- 1:06Speaker 4: watching President Trump still rolling through different states on his
- 1:10Speaker 4: midterms tour, packing out these.
- 1:13Speaker 6: Huge fields.
- 1:15Speaker 4: Let me tell you, I was looking today and I said,
- 1:17Speaker 4: this guy is 80. I hope I'm doing at least
- 1:22Speaker 4: displaying that level of energy when I'm 80. because he's
- 1:25Speaker 4: really killing it. But anyway, and reminding, he's out there
- 1:30Speaker 4: reminding everybody what this momentum looks like, and when you
- 1:33Speaker 4: show up and you fight, this is how it looks. Now,
- 1:37Speaker 4: he's been out in the Midwest, the Sun Belt, he's
- 1:40Speaker 4: leaving no stone unturned. Meanwhile, across the Atlantic, you got
- 1:44Speaker 4: students that are claiming to be students, right? In France,
- 1:48Speaker 4: these guys are rioters, and they're lighting France up like
- 1:51Speaker 4: a candle. President Trump is mincing words. He's calling the
- 1:55Speaker 4: whole thing BS, saying it looks like a communist takeover.
- 1:58Speaker 4: I got a clip on that. That's coming up in
- 2:00Speaker 4: a little bit. And you're going to enjoy that one,
- 2:03Speaker 4: I think.
- 2:05Speaker 5: I hope.
- 2:07Speaker 6: All right, you got it ready? All right, listen to this.
- 2:09Speaker 6: Check this out. This is a good one.
- 2:13Speaker 7: Mr.
- 2:13Speaker 1: President, France has free health care, free child care, a
- 2:16Speaker 1: 35-hour work week, and five weeks paid vacation. Despite all that,
- 2:20Speaker 1: people are looting and burning down parts of their cities.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Do you think spending a little more on education is
- 2:26Speaker 1: going to stop this?
- 2:26Speaker 8: No, it's not about education. It's about immigration. It's about
- 2:30Speaker 8: illegal people coming in who basically hate France.
- 2:32Speaker 5: They hate the people.
- 2:33Speaker 9: They hate everything. They hate the architecture.
- 2:35Speaker 8: You saw the building from the mid-1800s that fell down yesterday,
- 2:41Speaker 8: that burned down to the ground. Boy, it was a tragic,
- 2:44Speaker 8: tragic sight. No, these are people that hate France, but
- 2:47Speaker 8: they've been let in. They hate France, but they've been
- 2:50Speaker 8: let in. And you have to get them out. If
- 2:53Speaker 8: you don't get them out, you're not going to have
- 2:54Speaker 8: a France.
- 2:55Speaker 10: For the vice president and for Andrew Ferguson, back on
- 3:00Speaker 10: the incentives and the rewards, is it 1% up?
- 3:05Speaker 6: All right.
- 3:06Speaker 4: So we're going to get to that too, that 1%
- 3:08Speaker 4: commission as well. But look, when the streets are filled
- 3:13Speaker 4: with chaos and the red flags are coming out, the
- 3:16Speaker 4: communist flags, the Palestinian flags, which is lately synonymous with
- 3:19Speaker 4: the communist movement, You don't need a PhD in history
- 3:23Speaker 4: to see the pattern, right? We've seen this movie before.
- 3:29Speaker 4: George Floyd, Ukraine, Zuccotti Park, New York City, same people.
- 3:37Speaker 4: I mean, they might have some new actors now. The
- 3:39Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter, January 6th. These things are all planned,
- 3:42Speaker 4: coordinated attacks to make things look like something they're not, right?
- 3:46Speaker 6: So we're here looking at what's going on.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Somebody is paying a high price to get those people
- 3:52Speaker 4: out there to make things look so destabilized. And things
- 3:55Speaker 4: are destabilized in France, but they want to make it
- 3:57Speaker 4: look that way.
- 4:00Speaker 6: Excuse me.
- 4:01Speaker 4: Had to hit my sneeze button. And the question is why.
- 4:05Speaker 4: Is it an attack on Macron? Is it a political maneuver?
- 4:08Speaker 4: Or is it really genuine?
- 4:09Speaker 6: Is it astroturf? Or is it grassroots?
- 4:14Speaker 8: I don't know.
- 4:15Speaker 4: I would submit that whenever we see these movements, whenever
- 4:18Speaker 4: we see somebody climbing to the highest building and hanging
- 4:21Speaker 4: a flag there, that is a political statement. And that's
- 4:25Speaker 4: usually not done by people like you or me.
- 4:28Speaker 6: Think about that.
- 4:28Speaker 4: When was the last time you hung a flag from
- 4:31Speaker 4: the top of a building or hung the flag upside down?
- 4:33Speaker 6: You haven't done it. Yep, me either.
- 4:36Speaker 4: That is for someone that's well beyond the level of activist.
- 4:40Speaker 4: That's for somebody who typically works for a foreign intelligence agency.
- 4:44Speaker 4: Or maybe a domestic intelligence agency. And this is what
- 4:47Speaker 4: they do. Are those the CIA guys there destabilizing things
- 4:51Speaker 4: in France?
- 4:52Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 4:53Speaker 4: But I would suspect that some foreign government is providing
- 4:56Speaker 4: some sort of assistance there to highlight a problem, to
- 5:00Speaker 4: bring about a change. Because it goes without saying, this
- 5:05Speaker 4: Emmanuel Macron, he's useless. Now, are they a month away.
- 5:10Speaker 6: Or so from elections? Yep, they are. Is Marine Le
- 5:15Speaker 6: Pen well-positioned to win?
- 5:18Speaker 5: Yep.
- 5:18Speaker 6: Is she a conservative candidate?
- 5:20Speaker 8: Yep.
- 5:21Speaker 6: So would I suspect that she has something to do
- 5:23Speaker 6: with that?
- 5:23Speaker 11: Her?
- 5:24Speaker 6: Probably not. But someone supporting her?
- 5:27Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 5:28Speaker 6: Why not?
- 5:29Speaker 3: I would.
- 5:30Speaker 6: Right? If I had the ability to.
- 5:32Speaker 4: Use clandestine covert operations or pay money to former CIA
- 5:37Speaker 4: MI6 people and say, hey, look, I need your help
- 5:40Speaker 4: pulling this thing off. It's going to help Marine Le
- 5:43Speaker 4: Pen win.
- 5:44Speaker 6: I would do it, right? As long as it's not
- 5:47Speaker 6: a crime.
- 5:49Speaker 4: And what they're doing is a crime, but paying them
- 5:52Speaker 4: to do it may not be a crime, if that
- 5:54Speaker 4: makes sense. If you're telling them, look, I hired them
- 5:56Speaker 4: to do demonstrations in the streets, they decided to go
- 5:59Speaker 4: and break into Foot Locker and the Louis Vuitton store.
- 6:02Speaker 6: That's on them. And that's true.
- 6:05Speaker 4: And after you've washed the money so many times, saying, oh,
- 6:08Speaker 4: I gave it to friends of X, Y, and Z,
- 6:10Speaker 4: and then friends of X, Y, and Z gave it
- 6:11Speaker 4: to the community, for a better blah, blah, blah. And
- 6:15Speaker 4: they went ahead and gave it to this other nonprofit.
- 6:17Speaker 4: And once it changes hands, oh, but so many times
- 6:20Speaker 4: it's difficult to keep your finger on the pulse. Anyway,
- 6:24Speaker 4: speaking about the finger on the pulse, President Trump's got
- 6:26Speaker 4: his finger on the pulse of this Ilhan Omar situation.
- 6:29Speaker 4: They keep trading barbs like it's open mic night at
- 6:34Speaker 4: a comedy club. I can't stop laughing at either of them.
- 6:37Speaker 4: The back and forth is getting spicy. And obviously the
- 6:40Speaker 4: stakes are real. And neither side is backing down. Speaking
- 6:43Speaker 4: of backing down, Ilhan Omar and President Trump, I got
- 6:48Speaker 4: clips of both of them. And I want you to
- 6:50Speaker 4: hear that because obviously people are out there saying she's
- 6:53Speaker 4: running away. She's fleeing the country. I don't think she's
- 6:56Speaker 4: doing nothing. She's been defiant. And I think we have
- 6:59Speaker 4: a clip of her.
- 7:00Speaker 6: Hold on. Let's go.
- 7:02Speaker 11: Go ahead.
- 7:02Speaker 6: Play it.
- 7:06Speaker 7: Just wanted to say thank you so much.
- 7:08Speaker 6: Let's take it from the top.
- 7:10Speaker 3: Hi, everyone. Ilhan here.
- 7:11Speaker 7: I just wanted to say thank you so much for
- 7:14Speaker 7: the support to everyone who sent a note of support
- 7:19Speaker 7: for everyone who sent $ 5, $ 10, $ 20. That goes a
- 7:24Speaker 7: long way as we fight Trump and his administration for
- 7:31Speaker 7: trying to intimidate me and so many people right before
- 7:37Speaker 7: the midterm elections. We know that they're running scared. We're
- 7:40Speaker 7: not going to be intimidated. We're not going to be silenced.
- 7:42Speaker 7: We're not going to be scared. I'll be out there
- 7:44Speaker 7: campaigning alongside all of you and making sure that we
- 7:49Speaker 7: beat back all of this and that we win in
- 7:51Speaker 7: the midterms, win the House, win the Senate, and hold
- 7:54Speaker 7: this administration accountable. Thank you so much again, and please
- 7:59Speaker 7: continue to support us It is going to be a
- 8:03Speaker 7: very expensive and challenging time. And so we appreciate whether
- 8:07Speaker 7: you're able to send five, 10, 20. Thank you.
- 8:11Speaker 4: That is Ilhan Omar, Ilhan for Congress, not asking for
- 8:15Speaker 4: a GoFundMe, not asking for a legal defense fund, solely
- 8:19Speaker 4: asking people to support her campaign because she's going to
- 8:22Speaker 4: be out there campaigning.
- 8:25Speaker 5: Now, I know.
- 8:27Speaker 4: I know people are, oh, she's running scared. She's not
- 8:30Speaker 4: running scared. She is out here defiant. I played you
- 8:33Speaker 4: the clip the other night where she said that she's, um, not,
- 8:37Speaker 4: you know, she thought it was disgusting to marry her brother.
- 8:39Speaker 4: I'm not trying to defend her. I'm just trying to say,
- 8:41Speaker 4: don't believe all the hype.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Right?
- 8:43Speaker 4: When people say Ilhan is running scared, she's not running scared.
- 8:47Speaker 4: She's not running scared. Neither is her husband.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Right?
- 8:49Speaker 4: Uh, he's out there. He's in these streets. He was
- 8:51Speaker 4: walking his dog. And, um, bumped into the people from
- 8:57Speaker 4: Fox News, and he let them know, too.
- 9:00Speaker 6: Listen to this.
- 9:02Speaker 11: Hey, Tim.
- 9:03Speaker 3: There are rumors that the congresswoman left the country.
- 9:06Speaker 9: Is that true?
- 9:07Speaker 3: She's still.
- 9:08Speaker 10: That's annoying the hell out of all the neighbors around here, man.
- 9:12Speaker 3: No, I just wanted to get your response to everything
- 9:14Speaker 3: that's been going on. That's all. And what the president's
- 9:17Speaker 3: saying about the net worth and the investigation. Just giving
- 9:20Speaker 3: you a chance to respond.
- 9:23Speaker 4: And he's just walking his dog, carrying a plastic bag,
- 9:27Speaker 4: He said, you guys are annoying the heck out of
- 9:29Speaker 4: the neighbors. And he walked right into the front door
- 9:33Speaker 4: of his house there. And he seems relatively unbothered. And
- 9:37Speaker 4: he comes back out.
- 9:41Speaker 6: And he goes back in.
- 9:43Speaker 4: But he's not hiding. And then her staff. They pull
- 9:51Speaker 4: up to the house. They walk in. Very quiet block.
- 10:03Speaker 4: Staff is walking in the front door. Just telling you
- 10:05Speaker 4: what I see here on this video.
- 10:09Speaker 6: And then Mr. Minnette, Tim Minnette, the husband, comes back
- 10:12Speaker 6: out with the dog. The dog looks well fed.
- 10:15Speaker 4: And everybody seems hunky-dory over here. Nobody seems very concerned
- 10:22Speaker 4: about what's going on there. Now, President Trump, that didn't
- 10:26Speaker 4: stop him. El Trumpito, Donaldus Magnus, the 45th and 47th
- 10:31Speaker 4: presidents of these United States, he shredded Ilhan Omar in
- 10:36Speaker 4: the Oval Office today, really just dropping it on her
- 10:42Speaker 4: with respect to his thoughts on Somalia.
- 10:46Speaker 6: Listen to this.
- 10:47Speaker 3: If there is a problem with Ilhan Omar's age, Could
- 10:50Speaker 3: she be deported?
- 10:52Speaker 11: Well, she could be.
- 10:52Speaker 8: She could also go to jail. I mean, she could
- 10:55Speaker 8: also go to jail. You know, they keep talking about deportation. No,
- 10:58Speaker 8: she could go to jail. This is just my opinion.
- 11:01Speaker 8: I think she's a sick, very dishonest person, but— who
- 11:07Speaker 8: hates our country. And she comes from a country that
- 11:11Speaker 8: is essentially not even a country— Somalia. It's a real shithouse, okay?
- 11:19Speaker 8: It's got no government. It's got no police protect. All
- 11:22Speaker 8: they do is have people running around shooting each other.
- 11:25Speaker 8: Then she comes over here and she'll say, and she
- 11:27Speaker 8: wants to tell us how to run America. She wants
- 11:30Speaker 8: to tell us how to run the United States of America.
- 11:33Speaker 8: And she'll say, oh, I have constitutional rights. And she
- 11:37Speaker 8: never heard the word concept. She never saw that before.
- 11:40Speaker 8: See that? She never saw that before. She says she
- 11:42Speaker 8: has rights. She's a disgrace to our country. And it's
- 11:47Speaker 8: amazing that She can get elected, but Somalians vote for her.
- 11:51Speaker 8: You know, Somalians vote for her.
- 11:54Speaker 4: He did not hold back. El Trumpito de Naldes Magnus.
- 11:59Speaker 4: And he didn't stop there.
- 12:00Speaker 6: He kept going.
- 12:01Speaker 8: Most of them shouldn't be here. Do you know they
- 12:03Speaker 8: have like a 98% unemployment rate? They don't work.
- 12:08Speaker 5: 98%.
- 12:08Speaker 8: It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace. And they've ruined a
- 12:12Speaker 8: great state. You know, you have a great state. I
- 12:15Speaker 8: remember Minnesota in the old days. What a beautiful... What
- 12:18Speaker 8: a beautiful— with lakes all over the place. They have
- 12:20Speaker 8: more lakes than any place I've ever seen.
- 12:23Speaker 11: So beautiful.
- 12:24Speaker 8: They're destroying it, probably. Maybe they've destroyed it. And I
- 12:28Speaker 8: only hope a Republican woman, who happens to be very
- 12:31Speaker 8: respected by everybody, gets in, because you will see a difference.
- 12:34Speaker 8: But I will say this. I hope they treat her fairly.
- 12:42Speaker 8: But I think she's a very dishonest person.
- 12:46Speaker 6: Very dishonest person.
- 12:48Speaker 4: Well, at least he told us how he really feels,
- 12:51Speaker 4: letting us know that the place is a crap hole
- 12:54Speaker 4: and doesn't like Somalia, doesn't like what the exiles of
- 12:59Speaker 4: Somalia have done in the United States. And he didn't
- 13:02Speaker 4: say it's because they're Muslim. He didn't say it's because
- 13:04Speaker 4: of this. And I think people make these false assumptions
- 13:08Speaker 4: that that's because of that. And I'm not trying to,
- 13:11Speaker 4: you know, cover anything up because he doesn't say that
- 13:14Speaker 4: about every country. He says it about the ones that
- 13:17Speaker 4: he sees being very destitute.
- 13:19Speaker 6: And poorly run.
- 13:21Speaker 4: And whether you agree with him or not, you can't
- 13:24Speaker 4: fault them for having an opinion, right? Anyway, meanwhile, Ilhan Omar,
- 13:30Speaker 4: she did an interview with Amanda Devine. No, that's lies.
- 13:37Speaker 4: That was Attorney General Blanche. I'll get to that one, too.
- 13:41Speaker 4: She did an interview with Chris Hayes from... Formerly MSNBC,
- 13:46Speaker 4: which is now called MSNow.
- 13:48Speaker 6: Check it out.
- 13:51Speaker 9: To do this that doesn't sound like I'm insane.
- 13:56Speaker 10: And I'm saying this up front because the president of
- 13:58Speaker 10: the United States is one of the biggest bullhorns, right?
- 14:01Speaker 9: And every time he talks about you, he will casually say.
- 14:04Speaker 10: Something wild about you. Like he will tweet, Bill and Omar,
- 14:09Speaker 10: she married her brother, blah, blah, blah. You see that
- 14:10Speaker 10: and you think to yourself, Boy, that sounds odd.
- 14:14Speaker 9: It seems unlikely that she married her brother. There are
- 14:16Speaker 9: right-wing people who believe that this man was your brother.
- 14:19Speaker 10: Right.
- 14:21Speaker 9: You have called it a disgusting lie.
- 14:22Speaker 5: Right.
- 14:23Speaker 9: Who was this man that was your husband? When did
- 14:26Speaker 9: they start saying that he was your brother?
- 14:27Speaker 11: Why?
- 14:28Speaker 9: It started with the Somali blog.
- 14:34Speaker 2: That I don't know if it still exists but somebody
- 14:36Speaker 2: put in there that you know that he had to
- 14:39Speaker 2: have been my brother or something to that effect and
- 14:43Speaker 2: right wing conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of
- 14:48Speaker 2: it and they just kind of went and like found
- 14:50Speaker 2: random people who were like she introduced us you know
- 14:54Speaker 2: she introduced him to us and said he was her
- 14:57Speaker 2: brother which is you know insane. I mean, I don't
- 15:02Speaker 2: know those people that they talk about.
- 15:05Speaker 9: You were not related to him at all.
- 15:08Speaker 10: Not to my knowledge. That was the big gotcha, right,
- 15:13Speaker 10: in terms of what you're talking about promising. Like, we're
- 15:15Speaker 10: going to nail her on the marriage. That was the
- 15:18Speaker 10: source of the immigration fraud. That no longer seems to
- 15:21Speaker 10: be the issue.
- 15:22Speaker 9: That they are putatively investigating, right?
- 15:25Speaker 10: They've now moved on to whatever your representations your father
- 15:30Speaker 10: made in his naturalization process about you.
- 15:34Speaker 9: Is that your understanding? But it's also very convenient because.
- 15:37Speaker 2: My dad's no longer alive.
- 15:39Speaker 5: Right.
- 15:41Speaker 2: So it's another thing they can drag on forever.
- 15:46Speaker 10: Right, because the person who signed the paperwork and did
- 15:50Speaker 10: it all is no longer.
- 15:51Speaker 9: Here to answer the charges.
- 15:52Speaker 2: Right, even though they have the papers that he sent.
- 15:57Speaker 6: There you have it.
- 15:57Speaker 4: Ilhan Omar speaking out exclusive interview with Chris Hayes from
- 16:01Speaker 4: MS now used to be called MSNBC. And she says, Hey, look,
- 16:06Speaker 4: didn't do it. It's a full denial. She kept her
- 16:09Speaker 4: smile on. She looks like the girl version of Zoran Mamdani, right?
- 16:13Speaker 4: Smiling her entire way. I'll tell you this. If somebody
- 16:15Speaker 4: said that stuff about me, I don't think I'd be
- 16:16Speaker 4: smiling maybe every now and again, but there's no laughing matter.
- 16:21Speaker 6: Now, does that mean I don't believe her?
- 16:22Speaker 4: Probably not. I'm not saying I think it's her brother. I'm,
- 16:26Speaker 4: I honestly don't have an opinion on that. I feel
- 16:30Speaker 4: like I read somewhere that I believe that's called co-sanguinous marriage.
- 16:36Speaker 4: And that co-sanguinous marriage is incredibly popular in certain parts
- 16:42Speaker 4: of the world where everybody ends up marrying their first cousin,
- 16:46Speaker 4: second cousin, and in some cases even closer, like a
- 16:49Speaker 4: sibling or a step-sibling.
- 16:52Speaker 6: So does that make it right? Hell no.
- 16:55Speaker 4: That's like she said, that's disgusting. But does it mean
- 16:59Speaker 4: it happens normally? It does happen normally in other parts
- 17:02Speaker 4: of the world. I can't say I know for a
- 17:05Speaker 4: fact or with any degree of certitude that that's what
- 17:08Speaker 4: happens in her old part of the world.
- 17:11Speaker 6: But just interesting, right?
- 17:14Speaker 4: Interesting to think that this is the conversation that we're
- 17:17Speaker 4: having less than two weeks away from the big midterm elections. So, again,
- 17:24Speaker 4: I'm going to stick with my prediction, which has been
- 17:29Speaker 4: whether she's guilty or not doesn't matter to me. I'm
- 17:34Speaker 4: more concerned with does she get found guilty?
- 17:37Speaker 6: Does she pay some sort of price? And I don't
- 17:40Speaker 6: know that we're going to see that happen. Maybe I'm wrong.
- 17:43Speaker 6: Maybe that's what this is all about, right?
- 17:45Speaker 4: Maybe if it was really a nothing burger, she wouldn't
- 17:47Speaker 4: have taken to MSNBC and done this damage control interview.
- 17:51Speaker 4: So maybe I just need to zip it, keep my
- 17:54Speaker 4: mouth shut, keep my eyes peeled, see what's going on,
- 17:58Speaker 4: and see if there's a little change there.
- 18:01Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 18:02Speaker 6: But very, very interesting stuff, to say the least.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Anyway, I want to talk to you guys about the
- 18:13Speaker 4: situation in Russia. Because I believe his name is Stephen Hubbard.
- 18:19Speaker 4: He's been a hostage in Russia for several years. He
- 18:23Speaker 4: was taken during the Biden administration, and he's now been
- 18:26Speaker 4: set free. He's been set free. The ambassador, Special Envoy
- 18:31Speaker 4: Steve Witkoff, along with others on the American team, have
- 18:35Speaker 4: been in Russia negotiating directly with Putin for the release
- 18:39Speaker 4: of this prisoner. I think that's not a bad thing.
- 18:42Speaker 4: President Trump answering some questions about that today in the
- 18:47Speaker 4: Oval Office. And first, let me give you the best
- 18:51Speaker 4: little piece right here. This is the part where he
- 18:53Speaker 4: just smacks down Caitlin Collins from CNN simply for asking
- 18:57Speaker 4: a question that he didn't think was too bright.
- 19:00Speaker 6: Listen to this.
- 19:09Speaker 11: You know, I have the right to do them at
- 19:10Speaker 11: any day. If they behave badly, if they be... You
- 19:16Speaker 11: don't know what you're talking about. You're a dummy. You're
- 19:18Speaker 11: a low IQ person.
- 19:19Speaker 8: You're a dummy and you work for CNN.
- 19:21Speaker 11: Let me tell you, if I'm negotiating to get a
- 19:23Speaker 11: man back, a man that we've wanted back for years,
- 19:27Speaker 11: a man that was a prisoner in Siberia or someplace
- 19:31Speaker 11: in Russia, and we're getting him back because of me,
- 19:34Speaker 11: should have been brought. It should have never happened. But
- 19:37Speaker 11: it should have been brought back during Biden, because he
- 19:39Speaker 11: was there during the Biden. He was captured or taken
- 19:43Speaker 11: during Biden. When you're negotiating that and you're dropping, and
- 19:47Speaker 11: I know that I'm doing it, and because a lot
- 19:49Speaker 11: of people didn't know and they say oh let's put
- 19:52Speaker 11: sanctions on russia the negotiation would obviously come immediately to
- 19:57Speaker 11: an end so use your head.
- 20:00Speaker 4: Use your head now he didn't stop there he kept
- 20:04Speaker 4: going doubling down because he was angry He was very
- 20:09Speaker 4: angry about what's happening with this whole thing. And good
- 20:14Speaker 4: for him, right? I think, you know, it's important that
- 20:17Speaker 4: he explains this. And I'm going to play just for
- 20:20Speaker 4: context a little bit of the fuller clip just so
- 20:24Speaker 4: you can hear the fullness of it in its full context.
- 20:38Speaker 11: Well, I'll tell you the interesting thing. As you know,
- 20:40Speaker 11: we have a gentleman coming home from Russia that they've
- 20:44Speaker 11: been after for years. He was captured or taken during
- 20:48Speaker 11: the Biden administration.
- 20:50Speaker 8: Wouldn't have happened if I were.
- 20:51Speaker 11: President, but he was taken. And he's a highly respected man, Mr. Hubbard,
- 20:57Speaker 11: Stephen Hubbard. and we were in the midst of negotiating,
- 21:01Speaker 11: and a lot of stupid people said, and people that
- 21:04Speaker 11: don't know how life works, they said, why aren't you
- 21:07Speaker 11: putting Russia's sanctions and all this in the midst of
- 21:10Speaker 11: a negotiation to try and get a long-term hostage back
- 21:14Speaker 11: from Russia? If I would have done that, you would
- 21:18Speaker 11: not have Mr. Hubbard coming back. Right now, right now,
- 21:22Speaker 11: and you don't know anything. I mean, you're fake news CNN. Look,
- 21:25Speaker 11: right now you have a man that's, beautifully flying from
- 21:28Speaker 11: Russia to wherever he's landing in the United States, that
- 21:32Speaker 11: I got out because I had a very good and
- 21:34Speaker 11: very fast negotiation with President Putin. If you would have
- 21:39Speaker 11: put those sanctions on, or whatever you want to call them,
- 21:42Speaker 11: you could forget about him. You'd never see him again.
- 21:44Speaker 11: He'd be back in jail for 25 years. The other thing,
- 21:47Speaker 11: very important, we're negotiating with Russia right now on Ukraine.
- 21:52Speaker 11: We are maybe close to a deal. For the first
- 21:55Speaker 11: time in a long time, We're maybe close to a deal.
- 21:58Speaker 11: When you're close to a deal and you have very
- 22:00Speaker 11: delicate negotiations, you don't put sanctions on. And the other thing,
- 22:05Speaker 11: we have decimated Iran. Russia has had very little input
- 22:10Speaker 11: into Iran. They have— certainly, they could have done a
- 22:13Speaker 11: lot more, but I'm not sure they did almost anything.
- 22:16Speaker 11: That's something that you have to take into consideration also.
- 22:20Speaker 11: We've beaten Iran. We continue to beat Iran. And Russia
- 22:24Speaker 11: and China, frankly, have not been certainly much of a player.
- 22:28Speaker 11: And we appreciate that. So the people that say that, oh,
- 22:31Speaker 11: let's put sanctions on, you know, I have the right
- 22:33Speaker 11: to do them at any day. If they behave badly,
- 22:37Speaker 11: if they behave... You don't know what you're talking about.
- 22:40Speaker 11: You're a low IQ person.
- 22:42Speaker 6: That's how much time he gave her before he lost it.
- 22:45Speaker 11: If I'm negotiating, you get a man back.
- 22:48Speaker 6: You heard this part already. I played that part for
- 22:50Speaker 6: you already.
- 22:50Speaker 4: But I just wanted you to see how he goes
- 22:53Speaker 4: on back and forth with her almost nearly three minutes
- 22:56Speaker 4: until he says, you don't know anything.
- 22:57Speaker 6: Because he had already explained his.
- 22:59Speaker 4: Point about why they're not putting these sanctions on. Because
- 23:04Speaker 4: he's trying to get back an American citizen.
- 23:05Speaker 6: It's that simple. And all I could do is think
- 23:08Speaker 6: to myself, if I was that guy, I would.
- 23:10Speaker 4: Want President Trump doing that for me, too.
- 23:12Speaker 6: Shoot, wouldn't you?
- 23:14Speaker 4: It's crazy to think that they will criticize Trump for
- 23:16Speaker 4: just about absolutely anything. Anyway, I know I got to
- 23:19Speaker 4: take a break and we've got Speaker Newt Gingrich joining
- 23:22Speaker 4: us momentarily. We're going to talk about the Russia stuff,
- 23:25Speaker 4: about the midterms and a bunch of other things. He's
- 23:26Speaker 4: got a brand new book, by the way. But before
- 23:29Speaker 4: we do that, you know what? Let's take the pause
- 23:31Speaker 4: right here. We'll come back. We'll go to Speaker Gingrich.
- 23:33Speaker 4: We'll come back and then we'll talk about what's happening
- 23:36Speaker 4: in Florida. Bill Clinton is going to Florida. Hillary Clinton
- 23:39Speaker 4: running her mouth again. Lots to discuss. Too many things.
- 23:44Speaker 4: So little time. I'm Rich Valdez.
- 23:46Speaker 6: Don't go anywhere.
- 23:48Speaker 5: This is America. This is America. He's brown, he's bald,
- 23:57Speaker 5: and he's breaking it down.
- 23:59Speaker 6: Oh, he's so handsome.
- 24:00Speaker 9: What's his name?
- 24:01Speaker 5: Rich Valdez.
- 24:07Speaker 4: All right, familia, welcome back. Rich Valdez keeping you company tonight.
- 24:11Speaker 4: And a special treat, we got the author of the
- 24:14Speaker 4: brand new book, the speaker himself, Newt Gingrich joins us.
- 24:17Speaker 4: He's the author of America's Golden Age, Trumpism and an
- 24:21Speaker 4: Era of Limitless Possibilities.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Mr.
- 24:23Speaker 6: Speaker, welcome.
- 24:24Speaker 3: It's good to be with you.
- 24:26Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 24:26Speaker 4: So let's talk. This book sounds phenomenal. I love the
- 24:30Speaker 4: title because there's a lot of skepticism over the possibilities
- 24:35Speaker 4: that come from Trumpism. Probably most notably, I remember Obama saying,
- 24:39Speaker 4: what are you going to wave a magic wand and
- 24:40Speaker 4: bring manufacturing back to the U.S.? Meanwhile, we're seeing that happen.
- 24:44Speaker 4: Maybe not at the scale some would like to see,
- 24:46Speaker 4: but it's definitely happening. And tariffs, I think, were surprising
- 24:50Speaker 4: to many people who were skeptical of it, the real
- 24:54Speaker 4: reason for that.
- 24:55Speaker 6: The catalyst for it.
- 24:56Speaker 4: But you talk about a lot of things, namely, I
- 24:59Speaker 4: would say, expansion or progress in health care. You talk
- 25:02Speaker 4: about 20-year-olds living to 115 years old. You talked about
- 25:06Speaker 4: space travel and AI and the economy. So I want
- 25:09Speaker 4: to start with the health care stuff, if you don't mind,
- 25:11Speaker 4: because I think that's fantastic. I think a lot of
- 25:13Speaker 4: people want to live to 115 years old or at
- 25:15Speaker 4: least know how we're going to do it. And I'd
- 25:18Speaker 4: love to hear your thoughts and how you laid it
- 25:20Speaker 4: out in the book.
- 25:20Speaker 3: Well, the reason I developed that particular section is that
- 25:24Speaker 3: with the breakthroughs we're getting in biology and the more
- 25:29Speaker 3: advanced technologies. For example, over 6 billion people now have smartphones.
- 25:37Speaker 3: So you can actually start building apps for healthcare and
- 25:40Speaker 3: we can help you monitor yourself just in your smartphone
- 25:46Speaker 3: 24-7 in a way that moves us away from patients
- 25:51Speaker 3: towards people. Because our real goal is not to take
- 25:55Speaker 3: care of you once you're a patient. It's to make
- 25:58Speaker 3: it possible for you to not ever become a patient
- 26:01Speaker 3: because you stay healthy. I think the breakthroughs in science
- 26:06Speaker 3: probably mean that we will have a cure for Alzheimer's
- 26:10Speaker 3: before 2050. That's probably the single most expensive problem that
- 26:17Speaker 3: our health system pays for. And literally about $ 10 trillion.
- 26:23Speaker 3: between now and 2050. And it's looking like for the
- 26:27Speaker 3: very first time, we're getting the kind of knowledge about
- 26:30Speaker 3: your brain, which we just didn't have. I once co-chaired
- 26:34Speaker 3: with Democratic Senator Bob Kerry, a working group on Alzheimer's,
- 26:40Speaker 3: when we reported in 2009. We didn't have the computing power.
- 26:45Speaker 3: Your brain is so complicated. It has so many different
- 26:49Speaker 3: things going on that it's like... basically like astronomy. It's
- 26:53Speaker 3: like looking at all the stars in a galaxy. And
- 26:56Speaker 3: we literally couldn't track down what was happening inside your head.
- 27:01Speaker 3: Now we're beginning to, and we're learning things. For example,
- 27:06Speaker 3: most people who have Alzheimer's, the first symptoms occur 20
- 27:10Speaker 3: or 30 years before they actually manifest themselves as a
- 27:16Speaker 3: serious health problem. So we're beginning to be able to
- 27:18Speaker 3: identify who might be in danger much like we do,
- 27:23Speaker 3: for example, with breast cancer, and be able to intervene
- 27:28Speaker 3: and help them avoid it. And the truth is, if
- 27:31Speaker 3: we can postpone your getting Alzheimer's for, say, 20 or
- 27:35Speaker 3: 30 years, because it's largely a disease of older people,
- 27:39Speaker 3: you very likely will pass away from something else and
- 27:44Speaker 3: never actually end up getting Alzheimer's. So that's an example.
- 27:49Speaker 3: There are just huge breakthroughs. coming down the road. And
- 27:54Speaker 3: I decided to write America's Golden Age because I was
- 27:59Speaker 3: so tired of the negative advertising, the negative newspaper reports,
- 28:06Speaker 3: the sort of mood of the politicians, people who think
- 28:10Speaker 3: we're sort of at the end of the road. We're
- 28:12Speaker 3: at the beginning of a whole series of revolutions in technology,
- 28:17Speaker 3: in science, and in opportunities to get things done And
- 28:22Speaker 3: we have every reason to be very, very optimistic about
- 28:26Speaker 3: the next 50 years. And I chose 50 years to
- 28:28Speaker 3: be the 300th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration
- 28:32Speaker 3: of Independence. I thought that was about the right time
- 28:35Speaker 3: to look out.
- 28:36Speaker 4: Yeah, America's third centennial. Amigos, we're on with Newt Gingrich,
- 28:40Speaker 4: the architect of Contract of America and the author of
- 28:44Speaker 4: America's Golden Age, Trumpism and an Era of Limitless Possibilities.
- 28:48Speaker 6: The book is available. Make sure you order it. Now, Mr.
- 28:51Speaker 4: Speaker, I want to get your take on this medical
- 28:55Speaker 4: breakthrough from the sense of, is this just simply science working?
- 28:59Speaker 4: Is this government injecting more and more money into the process?
- 29:04Speaker 4: Are we just getting better at things like you mentioned
- 29:06Speaker 4: because of AI and computing ability or all of the above?
- 29:10Speaker 3: Well, I think it's all of the above. I think,
- 29:11Speaker 3: first of all, we have real breakthroughs in research, much
- 29:15Speaker 3: of it funded by the federal government. I was part
- 29:18Speaker 3: of that. When we were balancing the federal budget and
- 29:21Speaker 3: when I was speaker, the only four balanced budgets in
- 29:26Speaker 3: the last century came out of that period. But even
- 29:30Speaker 3: while we were controlling spending, we doubled the size of
- 29:34Speaker 3: the National Institutes of Health. And the reason was we
- 29:37Speaker 3: were convinced that the kind of breakthroughs, that I'm describing,
- 29:41Speaker 3: whether it's in cancer, in heart, in kidney, in brain diseases,
- 29:47Speaker 3: those breakthroughs are all going to come out of scientific research.
- 29:51Speaker 3: And then they're going to be translated by entrepreneurs into practical,
- 29:56Speaker 3: doable things. that you can buy at the store or
- 30:01Speaker 3: that you can get sometimes mail order. And so that's
- 30:06Speaker 3: a big part of it. Another part of it is
- 30:08Speaker 3: that our ability to track and communicate has gone up
- 30:13Speaker 3: so dramatically. I very strongly favor that you have information,
- 30:20Speaker 3: transparency about price and quality. I don't think that you
- 30:26Speaker 3: should go somewhere and have a hospital not tell you
- 30:29Speaker 3: what it's going to cost. And I think you should
- 30:32Speaker 3: be able to look at three or four or five hospitals,
- 30:35Speaker 3: pick the one that you think has the right price
- 30:37Speaker 3: and the right quality for you. And those kind of
- 30:41Speaker 3: things are going to dramatically shift power back to the
- 30:45Speaker 3: patient and take power away from the big institutions that
- 30:52Speaker 3: currently dominate us in terms of things like health care.
- 30:56Speaker 4: And I think it's that same free market approach that
- 30:58Speaker 4: you're talking about that we're seeing play out in real
- 31:01Speaker 4: life with NASA or with space exploration, where it was
- 31:04Speaker 4: once an arms race with every other country out there
- 31:07Speaker 4: trying to do it, the Americans versus fill in the blank.
- 31:10Speaker 4: But now it seems you've got Jeff Bezos and Elon
- 31:14Speaker 4: Musk and a number of entrepreneurs that are also involved
- 31:17Speaker 4: in that. So you mentioned this as well in the book,
- 31:19Speaker 4: this spacefaring Americans. And You know, some say, oh, I'm
- 31:23Speaker 4: going to spend the weekend in Boca Raton or we're
- 31:26Speaker 4: going to go to West Palm Beach and others.
- 31:27Speaker 6: We're going to go to Mars. How far are we
- 31:29Speaker 6: from that?
- 31:30Speaker 3: Well, I think Mars would be more than a weekend.
- 31:32Speaker 3: But one of the great stories and great examples of
- 31:36Speaker 3: how America works is a South African born Canadian educated
- 31:43Speaker 3: entrepreneur who made his initial money off of finance companies
- 31:49Speaker 3: and then took the money he'd made. and turned and
- 31:52Speaker 3: put a lot of it into space and came up
- 31:55Speaker 3: with the first reusable rockets, something which I had advocated.
- 32:00Speaker 3: I actually, working with Bob Walker, had gotten $ 400 million
- 32:05Speaker 3: for NASA in the late 1980s to build a reusable rocket.
- 32:09Speaker 3: They hired Lockheed Martin. Lockheed Martin couldn't make it work.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Elon Musk comes along 20 years later and he creates
- 32:18Speaker 3: the first reusable rocket. Well, His next rocket, which has
- 32:22Speaker 3: now had six successful tests, is the Starship. The Starship
- 32:27Speaker 3: will be the biggest rocket ever built. It will carry
- 32:32Speaker 3: 100 passengers or 200 tons of cargo. He's building it
- 32:37Speaker 3: to be reusable, and he hopes to be able to
- 32:40Speaker 3: launch one a day. And if that all works, by 2028,
- 32:44Speaker 3: SpaceX will have 98%. of the weight being put in
- 32:52Speaker 3: orbit on the entire planet. That is, if you add
- 32:55Speaker 3: up China, Russia, Korea, Japan, Europe, and the other American
- 33:01Speaker 3: companies together, there'll be about 2%, and SpaceX will be
- 33:06Speaker 3: about 98% of the weight being put into orbit. What
- 33:10Speaker 3: does that mean as a practical matter? I think by 2033,
- 33:13Speaker 3: you're going to have, for the first time, a village
- 33:21Speaker 3: on the moon, not just a small space for three
- 33:26Speaker 3: or four scientists, but actually a place that begins to
- 33:29Speaker 3: be a town. I think by 2040, you'll have a
- 33:33Speaker 3: village on Mars and you'll have outposts on a couple
- 33:37Speaker 3: of the big asteroids. And I say this in part
- 33:40Speaker 3: because young people, I'm trying to get young people to
- 33:43Speaker 3: understand they could have fabulous futures. They could do amazing things.
- 33:50Speaker 3: And it's worth their learning and studying and acquiring skills
- 33:54Speaker 3: because their life could be remarkable.
- 33:57Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about that because I think a lot
- 34:00Speaker 4: of young people in particular are very afraid of an
- 34:03Speaker 4: economy because they feel that AI is going to replace
- 34:06Speaker 4: so many of the jobs that they once had, or
- 34:08Speaker 4: I should say superintelligence. And this is a question I
- 34:12Speaker 4: think a lot of people have. I've seen Elon Musk
- 34:15Speaker 4: speak at several forums where he says, Eventually, we're going
- 34:18Speaker 4: to have universal basic income, but it's going to be
- 34:20Speaker 4: very high, something like $ 10, 000 or $ 15, 000 a month. This
- 34:23Speaker 4: sounds like a far-fetched idea to me, and it sounds
- 34:26Speaker 4: like socialism on steroids.
- 34:28Speaker 6: How do you square that?
- 34:30Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't agree with Musk about a
- 34:35Speaker 3: universal basic income. I think, to your point, what's made
- 34:41Speaker 3: America amazing is we've had an ability to dream about
- 34:46Speaker 3: and a very big work ethic. And it's the work
- 34:50Speaker 3: ethic which has transformed things. The six largest technology companies
- 34:54Speaker 3: in the world are all American. Five of them were
- 34:59Speaker 3: founded by teenagers. One was founded by somebody who was 24. Now,
- 35:06Speaker 3: that's more like where we need to go. Everybody, my wife, Calista,
- 35:11Speaker 3: is now the ambassador to Switzerland, and she's spending a
- 35:14Speaker 3: good bit of time looking at the Swiss apprenticeship system.
- 35:19Speaker 3: And they have a system where as early as 14
- 35:21Speaker 3: or 15, you work part-time, you go to school part-time,
- 35:25Speaker 3: you learn to be an adult, you acquire a set
- 35:29Speaker 3: of skills. I've met with six or seven CEOs of
- 35:34Speaker 3: billion-dollar corporations who started as apprentices. So it's not like
- 35:41Speaker 3: going to vo-tech school in the United States. It literally
- 35:44Speaker 3: is you're learning to do a job. And part of
- 35:47Speaker 3: the reason it works is when you put 14 or
- 35:50Speaker 3: 15 or 16 year olds in with adults to learn
- 35:55Speaker 3: to do real work, you change their whole attitude because
- 36:00Speaker 3: all of a sudden it's not a game. It's very real.
- 36:04Speaker 3: And the number of young apprentices we've seen who are
- 36:07Speaker 3: very impressive. And one of Calista's major goals is to
- 36:12Speaker 3: maximize the the rate at which we have apprentice programs here.
- 36:16Speaker 3: So I'm much more in the let's encourage people to
- 36:20Speaker 3: work camp, not the let's give them money to do
- 36:22Speaker 3: nothing camp.
- 36:23Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you.
- 36:25Speaker 4: And speaking of Switzerland, I was there for the first
- 36:27Speaker 4: time a few months ago in Zurich.
- 36:29Speaker 6: Man, beautiful.
- 36:30Speaker 4: I've never seen mountains like that. And people say they
- 36:32Speaker 4: have them in Canada and Pennsylvania and Colorado. I don't
- 36:35Speaker 4: think they're quite the same. But congratulations to Madam Ambassador.
- 36:39Speaker 4: So I'm with you. I'm concerned about this. And do
- 36:42Speaker 4: you think that this becomes a bone of contention as
- 36:45Speaker 4: we move forward? Because there is a reality of perhaps
- 36:48Speaker 4: not having enough jobs. Or do you think that doesn't
- 36:50Speaker 4: exist because of the innovation?
- 36:53Speaker 3: You know, in 1800, 97% of the jobs were farming. Today,
- 37:02Speaker 3: less than 3% are farming. Somehow, we invented whole ranges
- 37:08Speaker 3: of jobs. Whether it's being an airline attendant or a
- 37:12Speaker 3: pilot or a mechanic or it is working at Disney
- 37:17Speaker 3: World or it's becoming a psychologist. I mean, if you
- 37:21Speaker 3: think about it, if you had said to people in
- 37:23Speaker 3: 1800 that the total number of farmers would be 3%
- 37:29Speaker 3: of the country, they would have said, well, what's everybody
- 37:32Speaker 3: else going to do?
- 37:33Speaker 8: Right.
- 37:33Speaker 3: But instead, we've managed to figure out things for virtually everybody.
- 37:38Speaker 3: You know, if you're willing to work, We'll figure out
- 37:40Speaker 3: a job for you.
- 37:42Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense. Interesting historical perspective there. Amigos, we're
- 37:46Speaker 4: on with former Speaker Newt Gingrich. He's the author of
- 37:50Speaker 4: America's Golden Age Trumpism and an Era of Limitless Possibilities.
- 37:56Speaker 3: Mr.
- 37:56Speaker 4: Speaker, stick with me for a couple more minutes. I
- 37:58Speaker 4: want to get your take on the midterm elections and
- 38:01Speaker 4: a couple of other questions that I have for you.
- 38:03Speaker 6: Keep it locked right there. Familia, I'm coming right back.
- 38:05Speaker 5: This is America. This is America.
- 38:25Speaker 6: President Donald J.
- 38:26Speaker 5: Trump, Mr.
- 38:26Speaker 6: President, welcome to the program, sir.
- 38:29Speaker 9: Well, thank you, Rich, and thank you for everything.
- 38:31Speaker 11: I know you very well, and I listen, but I
- 38:34Speaker 11: have a lot of people that listen, and they love
- 38:36Speaker 11: your show, and I appreciate it very much.
- 38:38Speaker 4: All right, America, welcome back. Rich Valdez again here keeping
- 38:41Speaker 4: you company this evening. We've got Speaker Newt Gingrich here
- 38:44Speaker 4: with us tonight. He's got a brand new book. I
- 38:46Speaker 4: urge you to get not only one copy for yourself,
- 38:48Speaker 4: but one to give away. The book is America's Golden Age,
- 38:51Speaker 4: Trumpism and an Era of Limitless Possibilities.
- 38:55Speaker 6: Mr.
- 38:55Speaker 4: Speaker, we talk about a number of things in this book.
- 38:59Speaker 4: And one of the things that you're most famous for
- 39:04Speaker 4: is the contract with America, balancing the budget. The only
- 39:06Speaker 4: budget I've ever seen balanced in my entire lifetime. I'm 48.
- 39:10Speaker 4: And I think it's remarkable that A, that you did it,
- 39:13Speaker 4: but more remarkable that it hasn't happened since. That's truly
- 39:18Speaker 4: remarkable to me. But all that being said, we're on
- 39:21Speaker 4: the cusp of a bunch of elections. And uh, we've
- 39:24Speaker 4: got elections in Georgia. Uh, we've got elections in Texas
- 39:28Speaker 4: and Michigan and so many places. Uh, I want to
- 39:31Speaker 4: get your take on, on, uh, what you, what you
- 39:33Speaker 4: think is happening with, um, Senator Ossoff and Mike Collins
- 39:37Speaker 4: in Georgia and, and just your general thoughts on the midterms.
- 39:40Speaker 4: Is it a strategy of let's hold on to what
- 39:42Speaker 4: we've got and maybe not make some gains and we're safe?
- 39:45Speaker 4: Or is it, um, a different strategy where we're going
- 39:49Speaker 4: to pick up and have a celebration?
- 39:52Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think, first of all, I think
- 39:55Speaker 3: the core issue is whether you are more angry about
- 40:03Speaker 3: gasoline and diesel. I filled up my car on Saturday,
- 40:07Speaker 3: and I can tell you, standing there watching the price
- 40:09Speaker 3: go up as the gasoline went in the car, I
- 40:12Speaker 3: got pretty irritated myself.
- 40:14Speaker 6: Yeah, I bet.
- 40:15Speaker 3: So on the one hand, you could say there are
- 40:17Speaker 3: things Republicans haven't delivered and I'm going to vote Democrat.
- 40:20Speaker 3: On the other hand, if you then say, well, here's
- 40:22Speaker 3: what the Democrats are going to do, and that scares me,
- 40:26Speaker 3: so I guess I'm going to vote Republican. And I
- 40:28Speaker 3: think that's the tension that we have in the last
- 40:31Speaker 3: three weeks of the campaign. If the Democrats had run
- 40:35Speaker 3: normal candidates, they would be in much stronger shape. But
- 40:40Speaker 3: when you look at how radical many of their candidates are,
- 40:45Speaker 3: it's actually, I think, going to cost them. And I
- 40:49Speaker 3: suspect we're going to pick up Michigan and potentially pick
- 40:53Speaker 3: up Minnesota. And that's not what they expected when this
- 40:59Speaker 3: year started. So I think in that sense, I don't
- 41:03Speaker 3: see much evidence of a blue tidal wave. I think that,
- 41:08Speaker 3: in fact, it's going to be a very, very close election.
- 41:12Speaker 3: And the Republicans almost certainly are going to keep the Senate,
- 41:16Speaker 3: and they have a shot at keeping the House. So
- 41:19Speaker 3: it's a very interesting kind of environment. I also think
- 41:24Speaker 3: that the American people really want some way to work
- 41:32Speaker 3: together to get things done. I mean, I'm astounded. Everywhere
- 41:36Speaker 3: I've gone talking about my new book, America's Golden Age,
- 41:40Speaker 3: the number one reaction is, they're just so happy it's positive.
- 41:46Speaker 3: They're so glad that it shows an interest in the
- 41:49Speaker 3: future and it's not just one more attack on people
- 41:53Speaker 3: and one more negativity. So I think the country is
- 41:57Speaker 3: hungry for people who will work together and people who
- 42:02Speaker 3: will try to get something done. And I think that
- 42:05Speaker 3: actually hurts the Democrats because it's pretty clear with their
- 42:11Speaker 3: open statements about impeachment and about investigations that if they
- 42:16Speaker 3: end up in control, we're not going to get much
- 42:19Speaker 3: done as a country in the next two years. And
- 42:21Speaker 3: I think the American people actually want to see a
- 42:24Speaker 3: lot done. They don't want to see Congress and the
- 42:27Speaker 3: president just locked up in getting nothing done for two
- 42:31Speaker 3: solid years.
- 42:32Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree with that.
- 42:34Speaker 4: And I also think that whether it was messaging or
- 42:37Speaker 4: just the practicality of real life, You're right that people
- 42:40Speaker 4: are upset, myself included, about gas prices at the pump.
- 42:44Speaker 4: But I think the Democrats tried for months and months
- 42:47Speaker 4: on end to try and tie gas prices directly to
- 42:51Speaker 4: the war in Iran. And I feel like the war
- 42:53Speaker 4: in Iran is just not front and center, top of
- 42:55Speaker 4: mind awareness in most people's minds the way they thought
- 42:59Speaker 4: it would be. I would probably argue the ICE issue
- 43:02Speaker 4: is probably a more of a hot button issue.
- 43:04Speaker 6: Your thoughts on that?
- 43:06Speaker 3: Well, I think that... Look, I think affordability is an issue.
- 43:12Speaker 6: For sure.
- 43:13Speaker 3: I think people feel it in their pocketbook. They feel
- 43:16Speaker 3: it when they're trying to buy a house. And I
- 43:19Speaker 3: think it worries them. I think beyond that, you know,
- 43:23Speaker 3: you look at the riots in France and, you know,
- 43:28Speaker 3: the Lameau City Hall burning, and you think, you know,
- 43:33Speaker 3: could that happen here? And that brings up both the
- 43:36Speaker 3: issue of illegal immigration and And it brings up the
- 43:39Speaker 3: attitude of some people on the left who don't respect
- 43:43Speaker 3: the Constitution. I mean, I think this most recent example
- 43:48Speaker 3: with the WNBA, where in the championship games, the basketball
- 43:54Speaker 3: players refuse to be in the arena when they play
- 43:59Speaker 3: the national anthem. Well, I think the average person looks
- 44:02Speaker 3: at that and just thinks, that's just plain weird.
- 44:04Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a disgrace.
- 44:06Speaker 3: And so... I think what you have is the American
- 44:10Speaker 3: people would like us to settle down. They think a
- 44:15Speaker 3: lot of things are, frankly, practical common sense. I mean,
- 44:19Speaker 3: the issue of women and men competing in the same sport,
- 44:26Speaker 3: which was, I thought, best illustrated by the two professional
- 44:30Speaker 3: NBA players who said that they wanted to declare they
- 44:33Speaker 3: were female and joined the WNBA. And all of a sudden,
- 44:37Speaker 3: faced with guys who were 6'11, the people in the
- 44:41Speaker 3: WNBA began to think, well, we actually may need to
- 44:44Speaker 3: narrowly define who's allowed to play here. So I think
- 44:48Speaker 3: you look at stuff like that, and the average person
- 44:50Speaker 3: just thinks that that's kind of a common sense. You
- 44:54Speaker 3: know it's true. It's not about ideology. I think the
- 44:58Speaker 3: other thing is people understand that this is a dangerous world.
- 45:07Speaker 3: It's dangerous in terms of criminals at home. It's dangerous
- 45:11Speaker 3: in terms of the drug cartels bringing in drugs that
- 45:14Speaker 3: can destroy our children. It's dangerous in terms of terrorist groups.
- 45:19Speaker 3: And it's dangerous in terms of countries like Iran that
- 45:24Speaker 3: basically would like to destroy the United States. So I
- 45:27Speaker 3: think that probably one of the challenges for the Democrats
- 45:31Speaker 3: is that historically they're the party of weakness in foreign policy,
- 45:36Speaker 3: and they're the party of weakness in terms of crime.
- 45:39Speaker 3: And I can tell you that, for example, in New York,
- 45:43Speaker 3: the issue of the governor being soft on crime is
- 45:46Speaker 3: probably the biggest single issue that the Republican candidate has
- 45:49Speaker 3: to potentially win the governorship. And people look around and
- 45:54Speaker 3: they don't want to be frightened. They don't want to
- 45:56Speaker 3: be mugged or raped or killed. And they don't want
- 46:00Speaker 3: excuses that... you know, it's really unfortunate that we released
- 46:05Speaker 3: this guy 37 times before he finally killed somebody. I mean,
- 46:10Speaker 3: the people really want, they want the system to protect
- 46:14Speaker 3: them and to protect their children and their grandchildren. And
- 46:17Speaker 3: that's a much bigger subliminal issue, I think, that helps Republicans.
- 46:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 46:24Speaker 4: You mentioned a foreign policy weakness on the Democrats as
- 46:27Speaker 4: well as crime, but on the foreign policy front, um,
- 46:30Speaker 4: what do you see as an off-ramp or potentially getting
- 46:33Speaker 4: towards one with, uh, this current deal that's being made with,
- 46:37Speaker 4: with Russia?
- 46:37Speaker 6: They're allowed to make a little money. They're selling some diesel.
- 46:40Speaker 4: Is that enough to coax them into, uh, ending Ukraine
- 46:44Speaker 4: and maybe, uh, potentially not working with, with Iran? Uh,
- 46:48Speaker 4: I don't see the parallels or the connections and, and
- 46:50Speaker 4: how do we get out of this?
- 46:52Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you raised a really good question.
- 46:57Speaker 3: I just want to say, um, I'm very clear about this.
- 47:02Speaker 3: I've been studying the Soviet Union and then Russia for
- 47:07Speaker 3: my entire life. I actually joined congressional delegations going to
- 47:11Speaker 3: Russia right after the fall of the Soviet Empire and
- 47:14Speaker 3: watched the transition. And I'll never forget, I was in
- 47:19Speaker 3: this huge room. It must have been 70 or 80
- 47:21Speaker 3: feet long. And one entire wall was a map of
- 47:25Speaker 3: the Soviet Union. And I was meeting with an Air
- 47:28Speaker 3: Force lieutenant general who at that time was the vice
- 47:30Speaker 3: president of the new Russian Federation. And I said to him,
- 47:34Speaker 3: being clever, oh, that's a map of the Soviet Union.
- 47:39Speaker 3: And he looked at me and he said, yes, it'll
- 47:41Speaker 3: be like that again. And Putin basically stands for the
- 47:46Speaker 3: KGB wing that believed that the collapse of the Soviet Union,
- 47:51Speaker 3: he has said this, collapse of the Soviet Union was
- 47:54Speaker 3: the greatest calamity of the 20th century. And so he
- 47:57Speaker 3: wants to reestablish something pretty close to the Soviet empire.
- 48:02Speaker 3: And he, in my mind, he's basically evil. He's willing
- 48:08Speaker 3: to kill families, kill children. He's willing to kidnap young
- 48:13Speaker 3: Ukrainians and take them to Russia to brainwash them into
- 48:16Speaker 3: being Russian. I mean, the idea that we would do
- 48:20Speaker 3: anything to help Putin, I think, is an enormous mistake.
- 48:26Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 48:26Speaker 6: I would agree.
- 48:27Speaker 4: I've never been a fan of Putin's, but it seems
- 48:30Speaker 4: like he's the gift that keeps on giving. He doesn't
- 48:33Speaker 4: seem to go away and he has the wherewithal to
- 48:35Speaker 4: withstand the fight. So I wonder if from the Trumpian perspective,
- 48:39Speaker 4: being a builder, being a pragmatic businessman from New York,
- 48:42Speaker 4: he says, look, this guy's not going anywhere. I might
- 48:44Speaker 4: as well keep him closer than ostracizing him. I don't
- 48:47Speaker 4: know that either strategy has worked in the past.
- 48:49Speaker 3: Well, I think that's part of it. I think the
- 48:51Speaker 3: other part of it is that, remember, Zelenskyy was in
- 48:55Speaker 3: some ways involved with Biden in an effort to really
- 49:00Speaker 3: hurt Trump. So there's something very personal there. And then
- 49:06Speaker 3: Zelensky had, if you'll remember, this one televised meeting in
- 49:09Speaker 3: the White House that was a disaster. It was a
- 49:12Speaker 3: sign that Zelensky had no idea who Trump was. And
- 49:16Speaker 3: and that if you, you know, if you take, first
- 49:19Speaker 3: of all, you show up in a military uniform, uh, that's,
- 49:23Speaker 3: that is, uh, worn, not very sort of sloppy. And
- 49:28Speaker 3: then you take on the president of the United States
- 49:31Speaker 3: and in the White House, um, with a guy with,
- 49:36Speaker 3: with Trump's personality, um, He decides, I'll show you. And
- 49:42Speaker 3: I think there's been bad blood at a personal level
- 49:45Speaker 3: all the way through. But I will confess, as much
- 49:49Speaker 3: as I have studied Trump and I've written about him
- 49:52Speaker 3: and I have a pretty good general sense, I have
- 49:55Speaker 3: no idea why he is friendly to Putin and why
- 49:59Speaker 3: he allows Putin to get away with stuff. And I
- 50:02Speaker 3: think that it's one of the things that you'll see
- 50:05Speaker 3: once we get through this election. I think you're going
- 50:09Speaker 3: to see Republicans and Democrats take a position of trying
- 50:13Speaker 3: to tie the president's hands and make sure that he
- 50:17Speaker 3: can't sell out Ukraine.
- 50:20Speaker 4: Now, moving over to Iran, what do you think the
- 50:23Speaker 4: end game there is? Is it the mother of all bombs?
- 50:25Speaker 4: Do we hit them hard? Obviously, I think we've erased
- 50:29Speaker 4: the top level, the next level, the third level, and
- 50:32Speaker 4: we seem to have an Ayatollah problem.
- 50:36Speaker 3: Well, this is another example. I first started studying Ayatollah
- 50:42Speaker 3: Khomeini in 1979. I was a freshman congressman. Jimmy Carter
- 50:47Speaker 3: was president. I was from Georgia.
- 50:49Speaker 6: And I was one years old.
- 50:52Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. Well, that certainly puts me in my place. But,
- 50:58Speaker 3: you know, you look back on that, the religious dictatorship wing,
- 51:06Speaker 3: which is not most of the Iranian people, but is
- 51:09Speaker 3: probably 10% to 20%. They have been chanting death to
- 51:14Speaker 3: America since 1979. Now, as a historian, it's my belief
- 51:23Speaker 3: that when you have a militant group that chants something
- 51:27Speaker 3: for almost 50 years, there's a pretty good possibility that
- 51:32Speaker 3: they mean it and that you should take them seriously.
- 51:38Speaker 2: Right.
- 51:39Speaker 3: Which says to me, you're not going to get a
- 51:42Speaker 3: deal with this dictatorship. That if you really want to
- 51:48Speaker 3: change it, you actually have to change the dictatorship because
- 51:53Speaker 3: what we're asking them to do in disarming is we're
- 51:57Speaker 3: asking them to give up their ability to shape their
- 52:00Speaker 3: own future. And they're not going to do that. I mean, so,
- 52:05Speaker 3: you know, I watched this. We bombed them. We think
- 52:08Speaker 3: there's going to be a truce. The truce breaks down.
- 52:11Speaker 3: We bomb them again. These folks fought the Iraqis in
- 52:17Speaker 3: the 1980s for eight years. They took a million casualties,
- 52:24Speaker 3: probably 400,000 dead. This year, they killed at least 47,000
- 52:32Speaker 3: of their own people. Now, if you have a dictatorship,
- 52:38Speaker 3: that is willing to kill 47,000 of its own people,
- 52:41Speaker 3: what does the EU think you're going to do that
- 52:45Speaker 3: they will regard? I mean, we're not going to go
- 52:46Speaker 3: in and kill 47,000 people. Right. Our values wouldn't allow us,
- 52:51Speaker 3: the news media wouldn't allow us, the American public would
- 52:53Speaker 3: be appalled. So you either have a real strategy and
- 52:59Speaker 3: you help arm all the Iranians who hate the regime,
- 53:02Speaker 3: and that's probably 80% of the country.
- 53:04Speaker 6: Why haven't we done that?
- 53:07Speaker 3: I do not know. I would say this ranks with
- 53:11Speaker 3: why do they pretend Putin is okay. For some reason,
- 53:16Speaker 3: this is a hunch. I have no proof. This is
- 53:21Speaker 3: a hunch. I think that the leadership believed that if
- 53:27Speaker 3: you hit them hard enough, that it would shake them
- 53:32Speaker 3: and that they would decide they had to negotiate. Now,
- 53:38Speaker 3: I personally never believed that. But I think that that's
- 53:41Speaker 3: probably because the original design was, let's go in with
- 53:44Speaker 3: a big heavy air campaign and we'll really pound them.
- 53:47Speaker 3: And then when we've gotten their attention and we have
- 53:51Speaker 3: blown up all this stuff, then we'll find a way
- 53:55Speaker 3: to negotiate. Well, you know, first of all, if you
- 54:01Speaker 3: kill the senior leaders, you actually create space for junior leaders.
- 54:10Speaker 6: Who might be more radical.
- 54:13Speaker 3: They may be more radical. They may be tougher. They
- 54:16Speaker 3: also may be smarter. I remember when I was doing
- 54:19Speaker 3: a review of the intelligence for the second Iraq war
- 54:23Speaker 3: in 2003, I met with the air force sergeant who
- 54:28Speaker 3: was in charge of analyzing the Iraqi air defense system.
- 54:34Speaker 3: And he said, um, It's getting much harder to track
- 54:40Speaker 3: down and kill their anti-aircraft missiles because we've killed all
- 54:45Speaker 3: the dumb ones. And the ones who are left are
- 54:49Speaker 3: pretty smart.
- 54:49Speaker 5: Wow.
- 54:52Speaker 3: And they're better at hiding. And I just thought, I'd
- 54:55Speaker 3: never quite thought about the second level consequence. And I
- 54:58Speaker 3: think you have a little bit of that in Iraq
- 55:00Speaker 3: and Iran right now. I think you have the people
- 55:03Speaker 3: who survived the bombing are very tough. And very militant.
- 55:07Speaker 3: And they're very prepared to take us on unless they're defeated.
- 55:13Speaker 6: So defeating them is the only way out.
- 55:15Speaker 3: Otherwise, we're going home. You decide to risk someday losing
- 55:21Speaker 3: American cities because they do actually mean death to America.
- 55:26Speaker 3: Or you have to defeat them.
- 55:31Speaker 6: Which means destroy them because there's no other way.
- 55:33Speaker 3: Basically, you want to replace the regime. period.
- 55:37Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it.
- 55:38Speaker 3: You don't want to destroy most Iranians because most Iranians
- 55:42Speaker 3: don't like them, but most Iranians don't have weapons. So
- 55:46Speaker 3: you've got to find a way, as we did in
- 55:47Speaker 3: the 80s against the Russians in Afghanistan, to undermine them.
- 55:52Speaker 3: I was part with the Reagan team. I was part,
- 55:55Speaker 3: for example, trying to make sure we could get printing
- 55:58Speaker 3: presses into Poland for solidarity. I mean, we had a
- 56:02Speaker 3: very active campaign to undermine the Soviet empire And it
- 56:07Speaker 3: finally collapsed in 1991. But that was partly a consequence
- 56:12Speaker 3: of a very complex Reagan campaign that came at them
- 56:16Speaker 3: from almost every direction. Yeah.
- 56:19Speaker 6: Death by a thousand cuts. Mr.
- 56:21Speaker 4: Speaker, I want to thank you for being with me.
- 56:24Speaker 4: And I want to part ways with you asking you
- 56:27Speaker 4: a final question. One of the highlights of my career
- 56:29Speaker 4: was to take it over a radio show that was
- 56:32Speaker 4: once held by Larry King and Jim Bohannon. And Larry
- 56:36Speaker 4: King had a great opener, and I use it as
- 56:38Speaker 4: a closer, which is, how did a nice kid from
- 56:41Speaker 4: Georgia end up in a job like this, right? You
- 56:44Speaker 4: create documentaries. You've been speaker. You're a New York Times
- 56:48Speaker 4: bestselling author. It seems like you're doing it all, and
- 56:50Speaker 4: you seem to make it look easy. Is this what
- 56:52Speaker 4: you plan to do?
- 56:54Speaker 3: Well, when I was at the end of my freshman
- 56:56Speaker 3: year in high school, my dad was serving in the Army,
- 57:00Speaker 3: and we'd been living in Orleans, France, and we'd moved
- 57:02Speaker 3: to Stuttgart, Germany, the 7th Army Headquarters. And I was
- 57:06Speaker 3: going to be either a vertebrate paleontologist or a zoo director,
- 57:12Speaker 3: but I saw enough different things that convinced me that
- 57:18Speaker 3: countries can die and that you need leadership. And so
- 57:23Speaker 3: I decided in August of 1958, after spending the summer
- 57:28Speaker 3: praying and thinking about it, that I had three jobs.
- 57:33Speaker 3: What do we have to do to survive? How do
- 57:35Speaker 3: you explain it so the American people give you permission?
- 57:39Speaker 3: And if you have permission, how do you actually implement it?
- 57:43Speaker 3: And that's basically all I've done since August of 1958.
- 57:46Speaker 3: And it's led me in a variety of places. It's
- 57:49Speaker 3: led me to make movies, led me to write books,
- 57:53Speaker 3: led me to run for Congress, and then ultimately helped
- 57:57Speaker 3: grow a majority for the first time in 40 years.
- 58:00Speaker 3: And then work with President Clinton because My mission didn't
- 58:05Speaker 3: say Republican. It's about America. It's about the survival of freedom. And,
- 58:11Speaker 3: you know, we couldn't have gotten welfare reform or a
- 58:15Speaker 3: balanced budget without President Clinton because he's president. So we
- 58:20Speaker 3: had to work with each other. He wasn't going to
- 58:22Speaker 3: get anything through the Congress without me. And I wasn't
- 58:25Speaker 3: going to get anything signed into law without him. And
- 58:27Speaker 3: that's how we learned to work together.
- 58:29Speaker 4: In all those travels, what's the I guess the single
- 58:33Speaker 4: most important piece of advice that you've learned along the
- 58:36Speaker 4: way that you can pass on to not only me,
- 58:39Speaker 4: but those younger than me.
- 58:40Speaker 3: Listen, I learned from the deputy commander of the Army's
- 58:44Speaker 3: training and doctrine command in 1979, the phrase, listen, learn, help,
- 58:50Speaker 3: and lead. And so it is a single phrase. I
- 58:54Speaker 3: tell people all the time, you ought to dream big.
- 58:57Speaker 3: You ought to learn every day. You ought to work hard.
- 59:01Speaker 3: you ought to be true to yourself, and you ought
- 59:03Speaker 3: to enjoy life. My younger daughter and I wrote a
- 59:07Speaker 3: book on those five principles. And I think if you
- 59:12Speaker 3: do that, you'll have a long life and an exciting life.
- 59:15Speaker 3: And you'll look back as I do. And suddenly say, gee,
- 59:19Speaker 3: I had no idea we were going to do all
- 59:20Speaker 3: these things. They just added up.
- 59:23Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
- 59:24Speaker 4: And they all kind of strung together. Amigos, I want
- 59:26Speaker 4: you to get a copy of the book for yourself
- 59:28Speaker 4: and one to give away. The holidays are coming. The
- 59:30Speaker 4: book is America's Golden Age, Trumpism and an Era of
- 59:34Speaker 4: Limitless Possibilities. Speaker Newt Gingrich, I want to thank you
- 59:37Speaker 4: for being here. Godspeed to you, sir. You're a gentleman,
- 59:40Speaker 4: a patriot and a scholar.
- 59:41Speaker 3: Great to be with you. Thank you.
- 59:42Speaker 8: You bet.
- 59:43Speaker 5: This is America.