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Get laced up. Let's go. It's time for Banter
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with the boys. Welcome back to Banter with the
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boys. Gridiron updates. This will be the NFC
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South preview for the 25 -26 season. Rob is next
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to me, our co -host for Gridiron updates. Rob,
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what's up? Not much, Tyler. Just watching some
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football, getting ready for it. Watching some
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football, wearing Harrison Smith jerseys, you
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know. I'm ready for it all. I'm ready to talk
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about the NFC South here. A little NFC South
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action. Dirty Birds, is that where we're going?
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Starting off? Yeah, we will. We will. Kev, thanks
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for getting everything done for us here behind
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the cameras. The main man. As always, making
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sure you guys can hear us. Yeah, let's start
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it off. Let's start it off with the Atlanta Falcons.
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What was their record last year, Rob? 8 -9. A
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little below 500. They had a chip and a chair
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to get into the playoffs when they did the Michael
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Pinnock switch from Kirko. So I think they lost
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their last two games to not make the playoffs.
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But it's a new era. They have Michael Pinnock.
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Got a couple games in last year. Looked pretty
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decent. Arguably probably a top five running
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back in the league with B .J. Robinson. B. John.
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B. John, sorry. Yes. I wrote B .J. in there.
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Beast. Breviating. Did you say top five running
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back? Yeah, for sure. Definitely. For sure. And
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then my fantasy football star receiver, Drake
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Lennon. Excellent year last year, and I'm hoping
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for even a bigger year this year. Coming up,
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was this his third year, I think? I think this
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has got to be his third. Yeah, dang, it might
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be already. And then Mr. Pitts. Mr. Pitts. I
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thought he would be possibly traded this offseason,
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honestly. Yeah. Kind of was tracking that way.
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He is not. So here he is. Hoping for bigger,
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better things. Maybe having more time with Pennix,
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they can develop a better timing. Or is he just
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not that good? I mean, you take a look at Brock
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Bauer. Is Brock Bauer at college? If you compare
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their tapes, are they massively different? I
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rarely compare college tapes, but probably should.
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Don't do it. You don't do it. You get yelled
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at. Don't do it or you're going to yell at that.
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Yeah, you know, not everybody should have a podcast.
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Let's see. Kyle Pitts and Brock Bowers. I mean,
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no, they're not the same player. Where did Kyle
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Pitts come out of again? Florida. Florida. He
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was, like, number eight overall. Well, you know
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what? They did use him a lot down there in Florida,
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too. It just hasn't seemed like it's ever, you
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know, his rookie season, I think, was kind of
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his. about the same as all the rest of them.
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I guess without looking at the numbers. His rookie
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season was outstanding. I mean, over 1 ,000 yards
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as a rookie, that's pretty solid. Only one touchdown.
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His best year, though. His touchdown numbers
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have gotten up since then. But, you know, got
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injured in 2022. And then since then, just hasn't.
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Yeah, 47 and 600 yards with four touchdowns out
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of a top 10 draft pick. I mean. I mean, this
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is kind of a prove -it year for him. Yeah, I
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would agree. I would agree. Kyle Pitts, this
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is your prove -it year. You taking him in fantasy?
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No, I'm staying away from him like the plague,
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actually. There's so many good tight ends in
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the NFL. I actually don't think he's even in
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the top ten for tight ends, maybe even fantasy
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-wise. But there's been so many good tight ends
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that have came out in the last three years. So,
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O -line. Number one last year. They were best
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in sacks. Not giving them up. So, that's a bonus.
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So, PennX, I think. Did they lose their center?
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Yeah, Dahlman. They went to the Bears. Yep. Yeah,
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the Bears. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
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The Bears stacked a line. And then I got them
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at 9 -8. So, where are you at with them? What
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do you think of the D? I got the Atlanta Falcons
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at 7 -10, which I don't think I'm giving them
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enough credit, to be honest with you. I think
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that offense is outstanding. I mean, Bijan's
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a force. Good luck trying to stop that guy. Michael
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Penix, you know, day one starter now at this
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point. This is his team to lead. I'm curious,
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you know, just to see how they get off the ground
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running because they got a home game to start,
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I believe. I don't think I wrote that down. Let's
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see. Yeah, at home against Tampa Bay, that's
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a tough game. But, you know, first game of the
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season, maybe you could come out and surprise
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them. Like I personally had the Vikings losing
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their opener to the Bears. Just for the sake
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of my picks. And I hope they don't do that. You're
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going to start off the season not picking the
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Vikings. There's going to be weird week one L's.
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Just because not everybody is running like a
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well -oiled machine. And defense usually kind
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of dominates week one. Unless the defense sucks.
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You asked me about Atlanta's defense. I'm concerned
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about their corners right now. I don't know.
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Mike Hughes, we'll see what he can give them.
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They got cut. Did he? Right now he's still listed
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as their number one corner. Or is he in the pub?
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I saw his name today. Oh, it was today? Oh, geez.
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They can't lose nobody else. No, I don't know.
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I thought I saw his name. But you do have Jesse
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Bates still back there at safety. I kind of feel
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like he took a small step back last year. He
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did. He definitely did. Well, that whole defense,
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I think, took a step back last year. There's
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another safety in the NFC South that took a step
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back last year as well that I don't want to hate
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on. Yeah, 100%. Unfortunately. And I love, you
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know, schema. I love Winfield. Got to call him
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while you see it, you know? I don't know. We'll
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see. We'll see. I got him at 7 and 10. They could
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be on that bubble of a playoff, which might only
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be nine wins for the NFC this year. You get to
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nine wins in general. You might be flirting with
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a wild card, at least in the mix. So they could
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absolutely get there. I don't have them doing
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it. Yeah, I feel like you're saying a nine or
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ten wins probably really gets you in. Because
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I feel like almost the majority of my teams,
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I would say two -thirds of them are between seven
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and ten and eleven and six. It's just tough.
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I feel like it's going to be. Other than a couple
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teams, it's going to be fairly even matchups.
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I mean, I think it's going to be a great season.
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Yeah. But, yeah, they got Walker from Georgia,
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you know, edge rusher, linebacker. Great addition.
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Great addition. They had two first -round draft
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picks. Didn't something happen to them in camp?
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No. I didn't hear anything of it off of it. I
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hope not. James Pierce from Tennessee. So two
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first -rounders they spent on, and he's a straight
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-edge rusher. They got Leo Floyd from San Francisco.
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We'll talk about San Francisco later, but they
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lost, like, eight starters. Oh, San Fran. So,
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yeah, they just gave up a lot of yards. New D
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.C. in Atlanta. So I didn't catch his name, but
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I think, yeah. I can't remember. Nine and eight,
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that's where they're at. All right. Fair enough.
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Fair enough. Let's move to the Carolina Panthers.
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The Carolina Panthers. Where did they finish
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last year? They finished 5 -12. 5 -12. That is
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exactly where I have them finishing this year.
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Exactly. Well, I'm 6 -11, so kind of tag teaming
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on there. So definitely prove it here for Bryce
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Young. I mean, last year was way better for him.
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The second half. He seemed to start finally getting
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into it a little bit. So I am curious to see
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if he can start the season that way. They got
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some talent for him. Well, they went and drafted
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talent. They did. They did draft some talent.
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McMillan from Arizona. McMillan was a great receiver.
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First receiver off the board, was he? I think
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he was. Yeah, McMillan, first receiver off the
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board. outstanding receiver out of Arizona. They
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added Jimmy Horn late in the draft out of Colorado.
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It will be curious to see what those guys can
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bring to it. Trevor Etienne following his brother
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into the NFL out of Georgia. They are brothers,
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right? I don't want to say they're brothers if
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they're cousins or something. I feel like they're
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brothers, though. I really do. Dang it. Sorry.
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We're rolling. You got Chubba Hubbard back there
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at running back. That's going to get it done.
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So, yeah, there's weapons, but I'm not too excited
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yet about the Panthers. You still got Jonathan
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Brooks. If that dude can ever recover from his
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injury, I think he was Texas. Yeah, he was Texas.
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I think I heard again. I think he's out. Is he
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on the roster? It's listed as out. I don't even
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want to open it right now because he was still
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recovering from last year. Oh, yeah, that's the
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thing. That's the thing. If he can ever recover
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from just injuries in general, because I think
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when he got drafted, he was injured. So I would
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love to see because he was a potential Heisman
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candidate. He was. So I would love to see him
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at that NFL level as well. What was that? It
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reminded me of Ricky Williams with the dreads
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in Texas. Yeah, Williams was Texas. No. Ricky
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Williams? Oh, was he? Oh, you know what? You
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know what? Hold on. I feel like. Either way,
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I'll talk about him while you're looking up.
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So, defensively, they just got. Yeah, you're
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right. They, I mean, they got. Derek Brown, he's
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a game changer, but he played one game last year.
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Added Patrick Jones. Two of the Vikings edge
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guys, Patrick Jones and DJ Wanham. But I don't
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know. It's underwhelming. Their defense is underwhelming
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for me. That's the biggest concern for the Panthers
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this year, why they're going to go exactly 5
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-12 again. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. I'm
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not totally sold that second half of Bryce Young
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as that's where we're at. That's what I mean.
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We've got to see how he comes out. We've got
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to see how he comes out. Otherwise, he could
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be quarterback for the Panthers. If he plays
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the second half, I'll give him eight wins. If
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he plays like he did in the second half of last
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season, you'll get many wins. I'm 6 -11, so it's
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not a big stretch. We'll sneak out a couple last
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-minute drives. Close games. Make competitive
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L's into wins. Competitive L's. Do we talk about
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JC Horn? Go for it. I saw his name on there.
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He's a stud. For sure. He's one of the glimmering
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lights. of the few that there are on that defense
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but defense they stepped up i mean they spent
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a bunch of money on the obviously up in the front
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um front seven so um you never know new year
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we'll see how it goes so see how it goes see
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how it goes uh let's move on to the new orleans
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saints the new orleans saints God, I'm so excited
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to watch them play this year. I bet you are.
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Yeah. Derek Carr retires. Their tackle, Ryan,
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I don't know how to say his last name. Ramchick?
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Something like that. Retired. That's never good.
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So, outside of that, gosh, the Saints are just,
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they're in trouble, man. It's not going to be
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a very fun season to be a Saints fan, in my opinion.
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And I have them finishing. What did they finish
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last year first? They were 5 -12. 5 -12. I have
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them finishing worse than that. Where is it here?
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Where is it here? I have them at 3 -14. Had exactly
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the same on you. Really? You know, it's all for
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them is who's going to be their quarterback.
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Is it going to be Rattler? Rattler was named
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the starter. He was named, you know. Um, the
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guy out of Louisville, Tyler Sog. Yeah. Yeah.
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Does not look great. So, I mean, they still got
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Camara a lobby. I mean, he only played eight
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games. Yeah. He is like it's fourth or fifth
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concussion he's had. So, I mean, you're starting
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to get to the point where you're like having
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two conversations, you know, like it's football
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really worth it. Um, so then, uh, Rashid, uh,
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only played six games. They did pick up the big
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tackle from Texas. Their line, both of their
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guys were hurt last year, so I think their line's
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okay. Well, okay, yeah, because Banks is the
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tackle from Texas, right? So, Fuwaga, I think,
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is that how you say it? The right tackle. I think
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he was playing left tackle, but naturally I think
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he was a right tackle. So I'm curious to see
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if that will help out as well, being able to
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draft a left tackle and move him back to his
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more natural position. Yeah, so I'm kind of curious
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if that does anything there. You mentioned Olave.
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You've got to love him. Alvin Kamara, just steady
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Eddie back there. Yeah, man. He's getting done.
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One of the best receiving backs in the league.
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He had 68 catches again last year. It's just
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outstanding defense. Defensively, Cameron Jordan
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feels like he's been there forever. He's been
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there forever. Starting to get up there in age
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to Mario Davis. Kool -Aid, McKinstry, I like
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Kool -Aid. Yeah, Kool -Aid's nice. Who else we
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got back there? I actually like Julian Blackman
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a lot. He did. Yeah. Which was wild. I did not
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see him retiring this year. But then they signed
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Justin Reed from KC. But he didn't really have
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a good year last year. I think it's more the
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name. He had some good years, but last year was
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not his best year in KC. So, yeah, Cam Young.
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Remember, was he the first overall to chase Young?
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Chase, yeah. Oh, yeah. Was he first overall?
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He was really high out of Ohio State, right?
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So, yeah, defensively, I mean, they need to be
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better against the run, and they need to get
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after the quarterback. They didn't give me any
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sacks last year. And then their offense just
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got to stay on the field, so the defense ain't
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on the field the whole time. And just their quarterback
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situation. They're going to be the worst team
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in the league. I'm sorry. I don't see any way
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around it. Yeah, yeah, and it was nice adding
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Justin. Did you ever watch QB1, Spencer Rattler
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on there? You mean, was it called QB1? Yeah,
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it was. The high school quarterback one? Yeah,
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yeah, and then he just magically, or something
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happened and he couldn't finish the season. I
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was kind of disappointed. I was not a fan of
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him on there. You weren't? No, no, no. Why not?
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Oh, just. This is aura. Okay. Fair enough. Fair
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enough. So, well, he's getting another shot.
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We'll see if he can capitalize on it. He's in
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the NFL. Named as the starter the other day.
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I think yesterday or something. So, we'll see.
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I don't see him getting above three wins. No.
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Unfortunately. So, sorry, Saints fans. Does that
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give him Archie then next year? Archie Manning?
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Is that where he wants to go? Well, he'd be probably
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one of the – I don't know if he's – there's another
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quarterback. Allegedly he's staying anyway. Oh,
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is he? There was another quarterback. Of course,
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he was grandfather. Yeah. I haven't watched a
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ton of next year's draft yet. We're just running
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through, like, you know, the top projection,
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whatever like that. There was a couple quarterbacks
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right there, so I'm excited to watch them. They
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didn't play at the biggest schools other than
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there was the Penn State guy, Alder. So. I don't
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know. I have not looked too far into who could
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be coming out next year. They're probably going
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to be drafting a quarterback. I don't think it's
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going to be Radler. I don't think it's going
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to be Schauer or whatever, who also was kind
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of a journeyman through his college career, but
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worked his way up and played well at Louisville
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and seemed like he could do it. So who knows?
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Maybe he develops. We don't know. But at the
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moment, not looking good for the Saints. Let's
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move on to... Your favorite team other than the
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Vikings. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'm not a
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Buccaneers fan. I'm a Chargers fan. I'm not a
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Buccaneers fan. I don't hate them. I like Baker
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Mayfield. I bet you he picks them on top of the
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division this year. I bet you you do, too. What
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is this? Are we kidding? NFC South. I absolutely
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have Tampa Bay going 11 -6 and winning the NFC
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South with ease. With ease? They were 10 -7 last
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year. 10 -7 last year. Exactly where I have them
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again this year. Tough road schedule. They're
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not one of those other teams. It's all the tough
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games they play. They play on the road. So I
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think there's a couple games that they played
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at home. They probably could get to that 11 -6
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mark, but I feel like 10 -7 is kind of where
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they're at. I mean, they just have weapons. Bucky
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Irving's fun. Mike Evans is... Reliable. Always
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seems to be an underrated and under -talked -about
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receiver every single year, but always puts up
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numbers. I love the draft pick of Amika Abuka.
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I'm drafting him. That dude's a beast. I'm drafting
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him. Hopefully nobody in my league is watching
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this. Pairing him with Baker Mayfield, who likes
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to huck the ball, it's going to be kind of a
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high -powered offense. Throw in Kate Otten, who
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actually had a pretty solid... Pretty solid year
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as well. 39 catches, 600 yards. That's really
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solid. Also, co -keefed. Co -keefed. There he
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is. Tristan Wirfs, if he can come back healthy,
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one of the best tacklers. I had injury question
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mark next to his name on it. Yeah, for sure.
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He's got to come back healthy. But, I mean, offensively,
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the team seems as scary as it needs to be. Offensively.
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To at least be competitive in the playoffs. I
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think they could be competitive in the playoffs.
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I don't think they're a Super Bowl contender.
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I think their defense is definitely... You know,
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I mean, they were top ten in the run, but not
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against the pass. They struggled against the
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pass here. That's where they got to kind of step
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back to your point earlier in the other episode.
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You were talking about your boy Antonio Winfield
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regressing last year. I know, and I can't even
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believe I wanted to say that. Like, signed the
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big deal in kind of just a little bit. Just a
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little bit. Let's see if he takes it. Can take
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that step back forward a little bit this year.
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See if we can see Hassan Redick actually play
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some football this year. Curious about that.
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He sat out a good chunk of last season. Levante
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David, solid up the middle. They got enough Vitavia.
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He's been there forever. Did you say Redick?
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Yeah, Hassan Redick. Wasn't he that Jets? Yeah,
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they got a bunch of studs down there. They blitz
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a ton, too. A lot of sacks on defense. They just
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get after the ball. It's a fun, exciting team.
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High energy. It's going to be... I don't know.
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There's something... New OC. I don't want to
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call them the Rams of last year who kept giving
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us really tough games because I think the Rams
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of last year are going to be the Rams of this
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year but win a lot of those games. If they can
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stay healthy, we'll get into them in a minute.
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I don't know. They seem like they could be that
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team that's going to – you can't really count
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them out. They're going to be annoying enough
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to just kind of be there every game. Yeah, and
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they play probably in the worst NFC division.
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Worst NFC division. Some of the worst conditions,
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though, sometimes down that way. Early in the
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season. During the football season. You know
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what I mean? I don't know. We'll see. I haven't
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won in the division, though. Playoff bound. Playoff
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bound again. Same as last year. You know? So,
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yeah, they'll be fun to watch. I'm excited. And
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they always have those sweet jerseys. The creamsicle
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ones? Yeah. You like those? The white. No, the
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white and, like, the orange. Yeah, you like the
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orange and the white ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's not you? Not you? Maybe. We'll discuss it.
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All right, all right. All right, well. That's
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the NFC South. That's a wrap. We both got the
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box. Both got the box. And we both had the Lions.
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And we both had the Eagles. That's not exciting.
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No. And I bet we're both going to have the same
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team for the NFC West, I guess. But I guess we'll
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find out. Better tune in. Better tune in. Yeah,
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better tune in. Thanks for joining us on Gridiron
20:52
Updates for the NFC South Preview. Rob, thanks
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for being here, of course, our co -host here
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on Gridiron Updates. Thanks for letting me be
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