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Illinois DL Johnny Newton · The Heisman Hopefuls Podcast

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SPEAKER_04: Welcome to the official Highland Trophy podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: And the winner is here's your host, Chris Houston.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome, welcome to another episode of the official Heisman Trophy Podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend enjoying the first full slate of college football, and that your favorite team acquitted itself well.
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SPEAKER_02: We've got another interesting show to share with you today.
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SPEAKER_02: The 1996 Heisman Trophy winner Danny Werfel of the University of Florida is gonna stop by to talk about his Desire Street Ministries and the Werfel Foundation.
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SPEAKER_02: He and his organizations do such amazing work for so many people.
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SPEAKER_02: I hope you take the time to listen to what he has to say.
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SPEAKER_02: Five days from now, it's a rather somber anniversary as it's been 22 years since the horrific terror attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
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SPEAKER_02: in Pennsylvania.
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SPEAKER_02: Nebraska's Eric Crouch, the 2001 Heisman Trophy winner, is stopping by to tell us what it was like to be in New York City just a few months after those attacks.
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SPEAKER_02: But before we get to those segments, we're gonna start off like we always do talking to one of the best football players in the country, defensive lineman out of Illinois, preseason All-American Jerzon Johnny Newton.
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SPEAKER_02: As you can tell, I'm a little bit under the weather.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm fighting off a viral infection, courtesy of my 18-month-old daughter.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna go get a cup of hot tea while you get the lowdown on the latest in the Heisman World.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the Heisman Roundup, week one.
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SPEAKER_02: It's hard not to start with what was the talk of college football this weekend.
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SPEAKER_02: The Dion Sanders-led Colorado 45-42 upset at number 17 TCU.
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SPEAKER_02: Junior quarterback Jadur Sanders Dion Sun debuted as a Buffalo by passing for a school record 510 yards and four touchdowns.
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SPEAKER_02: The deciding score came with 425 left, a 46-yard touchdown pass to Dylan Edwards.
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SPEAKER_02: Meanwhile, Colorado sophomore two-way star Travis Hunter tried to match standards for heroics.
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SPEAKER_02: He caught 11 passes for 119 yards on offense while making an interception and three tackles on defense while playing 129 snaps.
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SPEAKER_02: Seminal signal collar Jordan Travis hit on 23 of 31 passes for 342 yards and four touchdowns.
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SPEAKER_02: Three of those touchdowns went to Michigan State transfer receiver Keon Coleman, including this 40-yarder that opened the game scoring.
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SPEAKER_03: Travis has been dialed in third down tonight.
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SPEAKER_02: Washington senior quarterback Michael Penix Jr.
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SPEAKER_02: helped the Huskies wallow boys state 56-19 in the season open.
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SPEAKER_02: Turning our focus to the big easy, we need to mention two-lane quarterback Michael Pratt's near-perfect performance in a 37-17 home win over South Alabama.
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SPEAKER_02: The junior quarterback who helped the Green Wave upset USC in last year's coffee bowl completed 14-15 passes for 294 yards and four touchdowns.
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SPEAKER_02: Two of them went to Jaquan Jackson, including this late third quarter 48 yarder that helped put the game out of reach.
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SPEAKER_02: Vidal's total, which featured a career-long 59-yard burst, broke the nearly 40-year-old program record for single-game yards.
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SPEAKER_02: He also added 54 receiving yards for 302 all-purpose yards overall.
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SPEAKER_02: This week we're starting a new feature.
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SPEAKER_02: We're doing a weekly trivia question.
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SPEAKER_02: If you think you might know the answer to this one, just email us at pod at heisman.com.
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SPEAKER_02: That's pod at heisman.com.
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SPEAKER_02: And the first person to get this answer correct and email it to us will get a Heisman hat.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, since it's easy for anyone to just Google away and find an answer, we're gonna make this one particularly hard.
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SPEAKER_02: Are you ready?
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SPEAKER_02: Here goes.
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SPEAKER_02: In 1983, Nebraska's Mike Rozier set the Heisman record with 29 total touchdowns.
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SPEAKER_02: And by total touchdowns, I mean it could be a passing touchdown, rushing touchdown, receiving touchdown, so it's total touchdowns in whatever shape or form they may come.
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SPEAKER_02: So Mike Rosier set the record at 1983 with 29.
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SPEAKER_02: Whose record did he break and how many touchdowns did that player have?
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SPEAKER_02: Once again, send your answer to pod at heisman.com.
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SPEAKER_02: Give us your address as well if you're confident that you got it, and uh we'll get that hat out to you right away.
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SPEAKER_02: The first guest on our show today is just a beast of a defensive lineman.
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SPEAKER_02: He's a junior out of St.
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SPEAKER_02: Petersburg, Florida.
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SPEAKER_02: Last year he had 60 tackles, including 13 for losses, 5.5 sacks, 3 pass breakups, 11 quarterback hurries, rated by ProFootball Focus as the number one defensive tackle prospect in the country.
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SPEAKER_02: He's also a pretty interesting cat as well.
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SPEAKER_02: And we talked to him last week before his Illinois fighting alumni defeated Toledo.
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SPEAKER_02: Alright, Jerzon Johnny Newton of Illinois.
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SPEAKER_02: Thanks for coming on, the official Heisman Trophy Podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank y'all for having me.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, uh last year Illinois was first in scoring defense nationally.
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SPEAKER_02: You guys were third in total defense.
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SPEAKER_02: This was a huge jump from the previous season.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, to what do you ascribe this uh, you know, major improvement from one year over the next?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh just a scheme, honestly.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, the new coaching staff came in, brought a great scheme.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, there's we've been hungry for years now at Illinois.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, uh had a lot of drops throughout the years, and I feel like with the right players and the code the scheme the coaches brought in, uh success was bound to happen.
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SPEAKER_01: We're all hungry for success, so it played out well.
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SPEAKER_02: What is this new scheme as compared to the previous scheme?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, up front, three down front rather than the what Levy had us in, four down.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean it's good for the run, of course, in the Big Ten.
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SPEAKER_01: Three running elite, stopping the run, uh, and then just the players we have on the back end.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, I feel like our scheme helps them out a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: And up front, it just helps us get out of the quarterback.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, watching you uh on tape, I noticed that you move around a lot uh on the line uh depending on the play.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's related to down and distance or other situations, but sometimes you're on the strong side, sometimes you're weak, and sometimes you're right up on the nose.
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SPEAKER_02: Which one of those spots do you feel the most comfortable at?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh sheesh.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know when I'm lined up against the nose, it's probably a one-on-one, but I just feel most comfortable out of three tech for sure.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
7:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh you were around 255 coming out of high school, and now you're around 295.
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SPEAKER_02: What uh what did you do to get to get bulked up uh to 295?
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SPEAKER_02: What was uh what was your method?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, just coming into college meal plan rather than high school, I mean probably twice a day coming into college in four to five times a day.
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SPEAKER_01: I was just bound, bound to gain weight.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, the the strength coaches we had have right now, uh Coach Tank, and then the rest of the strength coaches.
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SPEAKER_01: They helped me put in on muscle rather than just putting on a lot of fat.
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SPEAKER_01: But uh, I mean, it all plays to our nutritionists, what she has us eating, and then the the strength program to just help me grow immediately.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: I saw on Instagram that you were talking uh with one of your teammates uh about the uh the the Mount Rushmore of foods, and I believe uh pizza was one of those four.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh so I have to ask what the other three foods are on on your Mount Rushmore.
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SPEAKER_01: On my Mount Rushmore, pizza number one.
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SPEAKER_01: I said snow crabs.
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SPEAKER_01: Man, I might go lemon pepper wings.
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SPEAKER_01: And fourth one, spaghetti, for sure.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a pretty well-rounded.
9:15
SPEAKER_02: You got two kind of quasi-Italian uh dishes there.
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SPEAKER_02: Growing up uh with your uh four brothers, that must have been an amazing experience having four brothers in the household.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh it must have driven your mom a little crazy, but your dad must have been pretty excited about that.
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SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, what's it like growing up with four brothers?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh and then all of you guys playing football.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh the competition must have been pretty fierce.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
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SPEAKER_01: Every day competing.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I remember like I was probably in the second grade, like my first time ever playing tackle football.
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SPEAKER_01: I put on pads, went head up with my oldest brothers.
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SPEAKER_01: We're about five years older than me.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh probably gave me a concussion back then, but I didn't know.
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SPEAKER_01: But uh just always me wanting to always wanting to compete with them, you know, do what my older brothers are doing, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Like as a younger brother, you always look up to your older brothers.
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SPEAKER_01: So just always trying to do what they do, but like do it better than them, just because I'm a competitor.
10:12
SPEAKER_01: So I feel like uh everything we did growing up, it was just that competitive aspect.
10:17
SPEAKER_02: You've got a brother who plays for Toledo.
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SPEAKER_02: Your younger brother, I believe, is it your younger brother or older brother who's who you'll be?
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SPEAKER_04: A year older.
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SPEAKER_02: A year older, and but he's a receiver.
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SPEAKER_02: How does how does one brother end up uh 295 pounds and the other brother end up 190?
10:33
SPEAKER_01: Somebody had to eat the leftovers.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
10:37
SPEAKER_01: No, it was me.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I feel like all of my brothers are on that same size, 200, 195, and then it's just me.
10:45
SPEAKER_02: You're the outlier.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh always in always in the kitchen, always at the table.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: That's how I got here.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you pick up some cooking skills along the way?
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SPEAKER_01: Man, I'm a chef right now.
10:57
SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_01: Chef Y R D.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I cook.
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SPEAKER_01: I cook about I cook often.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Whenever we don't have like, whenever I just don't feel like eating the food here, I'll just go home, cook up a meal.
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SPEAKER_02: What's your go-to uh in a pinch?
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SPEAKER_01: Go-to, uh probably Italian sausage possible.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Very uh sophisticated.
11:28
SPEAKER_02: You uh I saw you're a big Star Wars fan.
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SPEAKER_02: You seem to be kind of a general uh pardon the expression, kind of a you kind of a nerd in a sense with with a lot of uh uh I mean this in the highest complimentary way.
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SPEAKER_02: No, you like uh Star Wars and anime and and all kinds of uh all kinds of things.
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SPEAKER_02: So do you like the old Star Wars or do you prefer the new Star Wars?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh Star Wars for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh definitely.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh Star Wars, I feel like I'm just like an original type person, like an old school type person, so I'm in love with the old Star Wars.
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SPEAKER_01: But I mean, of course, every Star Wars that comes out, I watch it.
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SPEAKER_02: What's your favorite movie of the original three?
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SPEAKER_01: A New Hope.
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SPEAKER_02: A New Hope, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: A new hope for sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, which of the characters do you identify with the most?
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SPEAKER_01: Looks wise, I'm probably like a Chewbacca.
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SPEAKER_01: On the field, I see myself as like a dark baiter, though.
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SPEAKER_02: Ooh, I like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Um you're also into anime.
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SPEAKER_02: Have you ever watched Howl's Moving Castle or Spirit Away?
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SPEAKER_02: Spirited Away?
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SPEAKER_02: Any of those movies by Miyazaki?
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SPEAKER_01: Never seen any of those.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm more of a like a big Dragon Ball Z guy.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: I used to watch it like Lily.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Every day growing up, coming home, watching Dragon Ball Z and Naruto.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
12:44
SPEAKER_02: You seem to be into the the heroes and the heroic type quests.
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SPEAKER_02: I saw on your your Twitter account you uh call yourself Theseus.
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SPEAKER_02: What's behind that?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh that's just probably like a top three movie of mine.
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SPEAKER_01: I watched, and I was like, man, like this guy is a is a stud.
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SPEAKER_01: Like that's who I want to be like.
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SPEAKER_01: So I just made my Twitter hand a Theseus.
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SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
13:08
SPEAKER_02: You're just gonna go out and kill the Minotaur uh on a regular basis, right?
13:14
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
13:15
SPEAKER_02: Uh I also saw that you're into to building and designing cars.
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SPEAKER_02: I know your dad was a own an auto mechanic shop.
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SPEAKER_02: Are you still into that as much?
13:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm still into it.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh if I go down my Instagram feed right now, it's probably just straight old school cars.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: Uh I just love old school cars, the sound of them, the looks of them.
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SPEAKER_01: There's just something unique about it to me.
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SPEAKER_02: So not a fan of electric vehicles.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: Not at all, honestly.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, so uh going back to the Heisman a little bit, do you have any early Heisman memories or any memories of of Heisman winners when you were growing up watching football?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, I'm from Florida, so Tim Tebow growing up was that guy, of course.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh and me, I grew up playing running back, so I remember just watching Reggie Bush from all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: USC, like I feel like every running back growing up wanted to be like Reggie Bush at USC.
14:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh Derrick Henry, like all those, of course, all the Alabama running backs.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh just a lot of greats and that.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh do you know of any like previous Illinois players that that appeared in the Heisman uh rankings at all?
14:38
SPEAKER_01: I can tell you, hopefully, like Dick Butkus or somebody.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Dick Butkus, Dick Butkus was a was definitely in the top five uh back in his day, uh probably the one of the highest uh rated Illinois uh defenders uh to make it to the Heisman.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh so um what I have a question for for you is say you're a Heisman voter and you were looking for to vote for a defensive lineman for the Heisman Trophy.
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SPEAKER_02: Tell me the things you'd be looking for in that defensive lineman.
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SPEAKER_02: What little things that beyond the stats, beyond sacks and tackles for loss, and what other things should a Heisman voter be looking for when looking at you play on the field or looking at any defensive lineman play on the field?
15:23
SPEAKER_01: Just a film.
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SPEAKER_01: Like like you said, stats really don't matter at the end of the day.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like you see this player playing, dominating every single play, like a Heisman should play, like a pro should play.
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SPEAKER_01: So I I feel like that's all I look for.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like somebody that's unblockable from as a defensive lineman, even in a double team aspect, could shed the double team to make a tackle.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel like uh dominant player is what anybody would want to see.
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SPEAKER_02: And who's your biggest influence off the field, would you say?
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SPEAKER_01: From a defensive lineman perspective.
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SPEAKER_02: Any perspective.
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SPEAKER_01: Biggest influence.
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SPEAKER_01: Always uh I can say I look up to The Rock, Shaq, the things they do off the field for people.
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SPEAKER_01: I just feel like that's very touching to me, you know, sending them always give back to the community, to people, the franchises they have, and just uh the way they move about certain things.
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SPEAKER_01: I love those hours.
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SPEAKER_02: So 20 years from now, what kind of legacy do you want to have?
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SPEAKER_02: Or what would you look back and where would you see yourself in 20 years?
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SPEAKER_01: Owning a Papa John's, walking in getting free pizza.
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SPEAKER_01: Probably uh, I mean, I have dreams uh having my own little lead football team, you know, giving back to those kids, giving them the knowledge that I grew up with, uh, helping them move in the right direction.
16:47
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, bigger than that, uh look at LeBron James with the I promise school.
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SPEAKER_01: Hopefully that's something I could do for my city, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Just always giving back because I feel like uh you can't take nothing with you.
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SPEAKER_01: The grape, so you might as well just give back right there.
17:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, Johnny Newton, thanks for coming on the official Heisman Trophy Podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: It was great catching up with you, and we wish you the best of luck in the season, staying healthy and having a great year for the Atlanta.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate y'all for having me.
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SPEAKER_00: This is Eric Crouch, 2001 Heisman Trophy winner from the University of Nebraska, and you're listening to the official Heisman Trophy podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: Eric Crouch was announced as the 2001 Heisman Trophy winner almost three months exactly after the terrorist attack on 9-11.
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SPEAKER_02: As we approach the 22nd anniversary of the event, we talked with the Nebraska Cornhusker Great about the time he spent in New York that December, his opportunity to visit with first responders, and other memories he had from his first visit to the city.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, looking back on it, um it it was kind of a surreal moment in in history.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I think everybody was uh was was taken back, and uh, you know, I was no different.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I'd never been in New York City before and and I just kind of watched everything happen um you know on on the TV.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh didn't know I'd end up in New York City uh during the season and uh was very fortunate to have that opportunity.
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SPEAKER_00: But you know, you you get to New York City, you're you're excited about this uh you know Heisman vote and who's gonna win.
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SPEAKER_00: It's an exciting time.
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SPEAKER_00: And it it just it just felt like there were some other things that were more important.
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SPEAKER_00: Um especially after uh winning the award, uh going down to ground zero and spending some time with the uh the firefighters and the paramedics and the first responders, uh, you know, it was still on fire, still smoking, still smoldering.
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SPEAKER_00: Um it was an eerie feeling, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: What what you saw uh on TV, um, you know, but what just wasn't the same when you went down there.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh a lot of uh uh people had lost uh loved ones and their best friends and a lot of people in the community, so it it was uh it was an interesting moment, but uh I I do believe that uh the Heisman Trophy did shine some light on their lives, uh bringing bringing the trophy down and and letting them take pictures and photos, and they were very appreciative.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I've got several uh great photographs.
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SPEAKER_00: I've also got some some memorabilia of my own from them.
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SPEAKER_00: I've got a uh a United States flag that they they gave me, as well as uh uh some signed um helmets, you know, like uh construction helmets or things that that they were wearing at the time when I went down to visit with them.
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SPEAKER_00: So they were they were very generous and giving of their time.
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SPEAKER_00: And it was just uh it was just uh a surreal moment, man.
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SPEAKER_00: It was one of those where you look back and you go, wow.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I was uh humbled to to be part of that and uh just honored to be around such uh you know great people and and the the true heroes of 9-11.
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SPEAKER_02: Crouch still remembers the details of that day, like the smell from the cleanup that still lingered months later.
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SPEAKER_00: It was really one of the first things that uh that that I noticed.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, you you don't get it when you're um you know up in Times Square.
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SPEAKER_00: But you get there and you get close enough, and I'm sure at times that it that that you could, but when I was there, I don't know if the wind was blowing differently, but um or it just been time had gone by so it wasn't so strong, but back, you know, that first part of December, you know, you're you're talking uh, you know, two, three months later.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, the smell was it was one of those things where you're like, what what is that?
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SPEAKER_00: You know, it's it's something that you just uh it's not the everyday, it's not the anytime smell.
20:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh it it just true like destruction and and uh death.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's weird.
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SPEAKER_00: It's weird.
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SPEAKER_00: It was it was something that stuck with me for a long time.
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SPEAKER_00: It's and uh uh you know, just just being down there, you know, being being around, it was just uh I don't know, it's somber, a little bit sad.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean I've gone back and been able to uh uh visit the uh memorial that's there.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh they did a real nice job and uh I I I think they that was the right thing to do.
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SPEAKER_00: Um anyway, I just I was honored to be uh just to be part of it.
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SPEAKER_00: During the season when this was all going down and uh we played Rice, it was the first game after 9-11.
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SPEAKER_00: Um you know, we came out and it was uh we did some really nice tributes to our our uh you know first responders and our police officers and uh you know, just people that you really have, you know, after some event like that happens, it just puts a difference.
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SPEAKER_00: Different shines a different light on on what those people do on a daily basis to to save lives.
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SPEAKER_00: So um, you know, football was was kind of an afterthought.
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SPEAKER_00: It was all about, you know, the people and that you're around and your loved ones and uh made us reflect on on the way we were approaching our practices and our games a lot differently than just you know being selfish and thinking about you know what's best for for myself or the it was all about each other and and it made us closer as a football team.
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SPEAKER_02: The downtown athletic club had been the home of the Heisman's since its start in 1935.
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SPEAKER_02: It was just a few blocks from ground zero.
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SPEAKER_02: The building's upper floors sustained damage from debris from the fallen towers on 9-11, and eleven members from the club lost their lives that day.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I mean the downtown athletic club is right right there, and um i and it was it was gone.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean there was not much that you know it was a lot of uh you know uh soot, I guess, or smoke and a lot of damage uh to the building.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: Um it was, you know, I didn't get to experience it like everyone else did that won the Heisman Trophy and got to, you know, have their family there and the event and the TV show and everything kind of centered around the DAC.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: Um they they brought it up to the uh the Marriott Marquee.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: And so um that you know, that was different.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, they re- but they did one heck of a job.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, seeing pictures of the downtown athletic club and and they they recreated it.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they did a tremendous like I I take my hat off to the people that worked effortlessly on that.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: Um they they did a tremendous job on recreating what what the DAC looked like and you know what the shots a short time uh to be able to put that together uh was was pretty spectacular.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: So uh yeah, man, I mean it the history's there.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: I wish I wish it would have been different for me, but uh I I do I I look back and I say well that that's just that that's that's the way it was, and that's you know, it it made me think a little bit differently about the the award and and uh uh again it was uh it almost I felt honored, you know, in a way, uh to be able to do what I was doing and uh you know, play being able to, you know, play football and and and do it on a great stage and and and just represent uh you know the nation um in terms of sports and you know the uh you know the the amount of energy that goes into working your butt off um that people don't realize it it with football.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh but I kind of turn that energy to to other things and I think that it really had an impact on the the reason for me winning the Heisman Trophy that year.
24:48
SPEAKER_02: Crouch's visit to New York City for the Heisman ceremony was the first of many to come.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: It was my first trip to New York, and I've been back almost every year since.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: Um it was uh well, first of all, uh I'm just not used to I'm from Nebraska, so we you know we don't have that many buildings in one area.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh that there's a lot of people, and so a lot of culture.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, just you know, you're just kind of wide-eyed, you're just looking like wow, look at that building, or look at the architecture, or how do people live like this, you know?
25:17
SPEAKER_00: How does this work for them?
25:19
SPEAKER_00: Um where's the cornfields at?
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Um again, we had I had my family there, it was really nice.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, we had you know the learning and meeting all the people from the Heisman Trophy.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh was great.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: It it just it was a it was a fun moment, you know.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: I was just I was happy to be able to share that with them.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: Um I I do I do remember that there is a funny story here.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: I do remember leaving New York City, going home back to Nebraska, and um, you know, you know how airport security got after 9-11.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: So here I am.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: I've got a couple guys with me um that are kind of helping me escort me back to you know the the ticket area, and I and I'm carrying this, like I'm rolling in this like large like steel box, you know, that no, it's like a strange box, and like why are these guys like what's going on?
26:11
SPEAKER_00: So we get stopped by security.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you guys doing?
26:14
SPEAKER_00: What are you bringing in here?
26:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, and and we kind of opened up and showed them, and they, you know, everybody took pictures and laughed, but it was just one of those moments, like, you know, uh, it just things things have things changed very quickly.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: But in the midst of his unique weekend, Crouch was still able to make special connections, and he quickly felt the bond of the Heisman fraternity.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of former winners that showed up for me that day, and I'm sure that it was probably a a a tough thing to do for some.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I remember Dick Kazmeyer celebrating his 50th uh golden anniversary, which was really cool.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, I got a chance to meet uh Billy Sims from Oklahoma.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, I got a chance to meet Danny Werfel.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: I've met some some great guys over you know over over my times, but like just the guys that are there year after year, I think is pretty neat to go back and show their support for the the the new uh winner coming in.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: I think it's real important.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: Um that's why I've I've gone.
27:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh I haven't made every single one.
27:14
SPEAKER_00: I think a couple I've missed due to um you know health reasons.
27:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh but man, it's just it's just a it's a cool, it's a cool thing.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: It's a great uh a great group of of guys and and people that are running the organization.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: Um and you know what, you're you're with you're around guys that you relate to, guys that you know what they're going through.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: Um and and again, I you know I've had some some some good friendships and uh you know gone to some support some of the other Heisman winners, their their events, you know, around the country, whether it's a charity fundraiser or a golf event, or you know, maybe they've got an idea, they're trying to um you know start something new.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: So um there's been a lot of that, and I wish there was more.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: You know, it just seems like um, you know, there's especially after the pandemic and COVID, I think it is kind of shaking things up a little bit with guys, but uh you know, there's a good solid 20, 25 guys that always kind of seem to come back.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: And it, you know, after being 22 years, like you said, it's kind of like uh, you know, you start to see, you know, the aging process of some of the guys that have been kind of the staples that you know start having some of the health issues and some have passed away.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: And so that that's very sad to see.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: And but they're all great people, a lot of great memories that I've had and been able to share over the years.
28:35
SPEAKER_02: Take an even deeper dive into Heisman lore by going to Heisman.com, home to all things Heisman, including news, bios, and the latest on all the winners, plus updates on the Heisman Trophy Trust and its charitable mission.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: It's the A to Z for Everything Heisman, from Alan Amici to Danny Werfel.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: We really need a Heisman winner whose name begins with Z.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: 1996 Heisman Trophy winner Danny Werfel moved to New Orleans as a rookie quarterback in 1997 after being drafted by the Saints.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: Soon after, Werfel sought out ways to volunteer and help in his new community and quickly found a home at Desire Street Ministries.
29:06
SPEAKER_02: Desire Street is an organization that focuses on community development in some of the nation's most impoverished areas.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: Following his NFL career, Werfel returned to the Lower Ninth Ward in New Orleans and began full-time work with Desire Street and is now its executive director.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: One of the many organizations supported by the Heisman Trophy Trust, Desire Street is now headquartered in Atlanta and works with ministry leaders throughout the South to help revitalize under-resourced neighborhoods.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: We recently chatted with Danny about Desire Street and his Werfel Foundation, which sponsors the Werfel Trophy.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: Tell me about your experience with Desire Street Ministries and how that whole association got started.
29:43
SPEAKER_06: Well, when I moved to New Orleans to play for the Saints, you know, I was very uh open to look for something to be involved in and help in the in the town and the city while I was there.
29:53
SPEAKER_06: And several things happened that sort of got me aware of this small organization that had started a few years earlier called Desire Street Ministries.
30:02
SPEAKER_06: It was located in one of the worst-ranked neighborhoods in the country, second largest public housing project, on and off the murder capital of the country.
30:12
SPEAKER_06: And a guy from Georgia uh moved in and was working with kids and families, and I was just blown away uh by what he was doing and the work they were doing.
30:23
SPEAKER_06: So I just started volunteering, uh, helping out.
30:26
SPEAKER_06: We did after school programming, a lot of educational enrichment stuff.
30:31
SPEAKER_06: Uh one point started a church, started doing some housing, eventually started a school.
30:37
SPEAKER_06: And so I was just thrilled.
30:39
SPEAKER_06: I just uh it was uh amazing to me to think that a few miles from the Superdome where I was playing professional football, where us gators had the first ever national championship in the school's history and celebrated that uh there were people that had so much less access to resources, to opportunities, to a good education.
31:02
SPEAKER_06: Uh, it was just heartbreaking.
31:04
SPEAKER_06: So I just began to volunteer and and be a part of that.
31:07
SPEAKER_06: And then eventually in 2004, I retired from the NFL uh to go right to work full-time at Desire Street and have never looked back.
31:18
SPEAKER_02: And then the next year uh there was calamity.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: There was Katrina hitting New Orleans.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: What was that experience like?
31:26
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, actually, it was it wasn't long ago that we uh just celebrated the 18-year anniversary uh of Hurricane Katrina as it uh really devastated New Orleans.
31:37
SPEAKER_06: And I mean, there's so many, so many stories uh about that, you know, um some beautiful, some horrible um memories.
31:47
SPEAKER_06: You know, I remember leaving town and Coach Coach Spreer called to check on me, and uh and he's like, Danny, just want to make sure you're not trying to stay around and be a hero.
31:56
SPEAKER_06: You make sure you get out of there, okay?
31:57
SPEAKER_06: And I'm like, Yes, sir, we're we're evacuating.
32:00
SPEAKER_06: He goes, also, do you bring your trophy with me?
32:01
SPEAKER_06: Don't leave that behind.
32:03
SPEAKER_06: Uh actually, the trophy at that time was at my parents' house.
32:06
SPEAKER_06: So it was it was safe.
32:08
SPEAKER_06: Um but man, just the the devastation, um kind of the changing of priorities.
32:15
SPEAKER_06: I remember going back to New Orleans and seeing all the houses that were gutted, which meant you basically took everything out.
32:24
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
32:25
SPEAKER_06: All the everything you put on the street, and the it's all trash, uh, and you hope you can save the frame of your house and the the structure to to rebuild.
32:34
SPEAKER_06: And I just remember thinking to myself, just a few weeks ago, all of this trash was somebody's treasure.
32:42
SPEAKER_06: And like how quickly that changed.
32:44
SPEAKER_06: And like in my life, how much of my time and my money and my effort am I investing in things that will quickly be trash?
32:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
32:53
SPEAKER_06: And how much of my life am I investing in something that really, really matters?
32:57
SPEAKER_06: And so there were so many priority changes for me around that time, and and uh shortly after I became the director of Desire Street, and we uh we moved our headquarters to Atlanta, and now we work with uh under-resourced neighborhoods all over the country, and we're in the middle of a of a five-year plan to impact 20 neighborhoods by uh by 2025, and just it's it's been an incredible journey.
33:23
SPEAKER_06: There's so many people in our own country, again, that just don't have the same opportunities, and to be a part of an organization that makes a difference has just been fantastic for me.
33:33
SPEAKER_06: And again, to tie some of this together, my experience as uh my experience as um you know as a football player and and really having won this award, the Heisman Trophy, has been absolutely incredible and opening doors to help other people.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's certainly an inspiration using that platform to do good.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: What are some of your favorite success stories from your work at Desire Street?
34:00
SPEAKER_06: You know, I remember there's a unique moment at Florida Field, actually.
34:04
SPEAKER_06: Uh University of Florida was playing LSU and um Florida kicked, uh no, LSU kicked off, and Brandon James, who was just featured on the recent Swamp Kings Netflix documentary, was an electric kickoff returner, and he took the ball, and you know, every time he touched it, you never knew if he was gonna score.
34:22
SPEAKER_06: And he he put his plant foot in at the 17-yard line, but instead of hitting a crease, he got tackled, and uh, you know, the whole stadium at Florida just it was a collective, disappointing sigh.
34:33
SPEAKER_06: And yeah, the sideline at Florida was very frustrated.
34:36
SPEAKER_06: But there was one person on the sideline, on the Florida sideline, that was celebrating this play like crazy.
34:44
SPEAKER_06: And that person was me.
34:47
SPEAKER_06: Because the person on the LSU football team who ran down the field and tackled Brandon was D'Angelo Peterson, a young man who grew up on the streets of New Orleans.
34:57
SPEAKER_06: And like many others, statistically had a good chance to end up either in prison or perhaps dead by the time he was 21.
35:05
SPEAKER_06: And yet uh he liked pizza and basketball, so he went to a Desire Street uh basketball evening and got free pizza and went to a Bible study and ended up getting some academic tutoring, ended up joining the school Desire Street Academy, was able to graduate high school, got a full scholarship to LSU, and you know, just the trajectory of his life was changed because of the investment of other people.
35:29
SPEAKER_06: And, you know, D'Angelo is one of thousands and thousands of kids and families uh since 1990 whose lives have been impacted by Desire Street.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: That's a fantastic story.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh, in addition to Desire Street, you've also have the Werfel Foundation.
35:44
SPEAKER_06: Tell me about that.
35:45
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, a few a few years ago uh we launched the Werfel Foundation and um, you know, really to promote not just the work that people are doing in under-resourced neighborhoods, but we support all other kinds of nonprofits.
35:57
SPEAKER_06: Uh, I've spent a lot of time helping former athletes with their foundations and their charitable work, and we do that through the foundation.
36:05
SPEAKER_06: And also, we uh we now uh are the steward of the Werfel Trophy, which is a college award for community service.
36:13
SPEAKER_06: In fact, um the former executive director of the Heisman Trophy, Rudy Riska, he he was one that really convinced me to do this, that college football could use a war an award that wasn't for yards or touchdowns or tackles, but for helping others.
36:30
SPEAKER_06: And so we've been doing this for many years now.
36:33
SPEAKER_06: Uh this past year we had 109 nominations.
36:36
SPEAKER_06: And our winner, Dylan Gibbons from Florida State, uh is an amazing young man.
36:41
SPEAKER_06: And uh, in fact, the Heisman Trophy Trust invited me and Dylan to be a part of all the Heisman festivities over the weekend.
36:49
SPEAKER_06: And so just the more, the more we can shine a light on the good work that that people are doing, I think it inspires more of us to do a service.
36:58
SPEAKER_06: And so that's the mission of the Werfel Foundation, is to inspire service and unity in the world.
37:03
SPEAKER_02: At the Heisman Banquet every year, you say a prayer before the event starts, and you always remind the people there sitting uh at the tables, nice warm uh meals, of the people outside in the cold who are struggling and hungry.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: And I think it serves as a jarring reminder to people of of the work that needs to be done out there.
37:22
SPEAKER_02: And so many times um people have faith, and it's often just an identity rather than than their works.
37:32
SPEAKER_02: And you seem to have really found that formula for for going out there and and living that that faith.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: And how how did you crossing that line I think is is hard for some people where where you you believe in helping people, but actually going there on the front lines and and doing it is sometimes just a step too far for for people.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: How do you how do you get people to take that that jump to go from the theoretical you know uh philosophy of your faith to actually living it and helping other people?
38:07
SPEAKER_06: Well, I think one is really recognizing how central to faith uh caring for other people is, uh, and not just in words, but but in deeds.
38:17
SPEAKER_06: And so I think, you know, as we we try to be the best faithful stewards of our faith, and you know, as a Christian to me, it's it's very clear throughout the Bible that that's part of our DNA.
38:28
SPEAKER_06: Um, I recognize that a lot of other faith traditions have very similar uh callings, and I think as people live those out, you actually can find a lot of joy in helping others and serving others.
38:42
SPEAKER_06: And so often you you actually go thinking you're gonna help someone else, and you find out that there's things that they have that you don't have where that you can mutually encourage each other.
38:53
SPEAKER_06: I've learned so much from my friends in under-resourced neighborhoods about community, about caring for each other.
38:59
SPEAKER_06: You know, some of the very, very most generous people I've ever met don't have much, but they're giving away so much of what they have for each other that it's just pretty, pretty, pretty amazing.
39:11
SPEAKER_06: Uh, but then also I think uh, you know, most of us are pretty good at at something, you know.
39:18
SPEAKER_06: And uh and and if you can figure out a way to what you're good at and what you enjoy, do it in a way that helps others, you know.
39:23
SPEAKER_06: Just a weird example.
39:24
SPEAKER_06: I we've had a lot of accountants and and finance people come say, hey, I want to help, but I don't really know how to help kids.
39:31
SPEAKER_06: And I don't even like kids, some people might say or think.
39:35
SPEAKER_06: But it's like, you know what, every nonprofit I know is desperate for a good accountant on their board.
39:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:40
SPEAKER_06: Or someone to help them with their books.
39:42
SPEAKER_06: Like, whatever you do, are you a lawyer?
39:44
SPEAKER_06: Everybody needs some advocacy.
39:45
SPEAKER_06: You know, are you in real estate?
39:47
SPEAKER_06: Well, we've got several issues right now with with housing that we could we could use help with.
39:51
SPEAKER_06: So, whatever you're good at, finding a place that can leverage that to help others, I think is a great, a great way to invest yourself.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: So if someone someone wanted to help out at Desire Street or with the Werfel Foundation, what what would they uh have to do?
40:05
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, I I think the if you just go to DannyWorfel.com, you can find links to all those things.
40:09
SPEAKER_06: The hardest part is spelling my last name, but uh dannyworfel.com, you know, there's different Desire Street ministry partners in multiple cities.
40:17
SPEAKER_06: So if you're in a in a city where we have a partner, there's probably some really neat opportunities.
40:22
SPEAKER_06: Uh the Werfel Foundation uh is doing different things throughout.
40:25
SPEAKER_06: So depending on uh where you live, and then of course we're we're trying to raise the money that we need to do the work that we're doing all the time as well.
40:33
SPEAKER_06: So we're uh we're we're constantly having events and different ways to try to support what we do.
40:38
SPEAKER_02: We recently talked to Carlton Obi over at Mercy Street.
40:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh, tell us a little bit about uh your involvement with Mercy Street.
40:46
SPEAKER_02: He he did mention you as sort of being an inspiration for for a lot of what they do.
40:51
SPEAKER_06: Man, uh that's a ministry that's been around for a good bit.
40:55
SPEAKER_06: We've partnered with Mercy Street even uh when Trey Hill was the director before Carlton.
41:00
SPEAKER_06: And um they're doing so many things through their mentoring program and especially their sports outreach ministries.
41:06
SPEAKER_06: Uh, and and they're doing some phenomenal work and they've they've built up quite a great uh different facility levels for different sports there that it's it's really a model for I think a lot of groups to follow.
41:18
SPEAKER_06: And then Carlton stepped into that role, and it's it's hard, you know.
41:22
SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, I I look back at my football career, and we talked about it a lot earlier.
41:28
SPEAKER_06: You know, Coach Spurrier, without Coach Spurrier, I'm I'm not we're not having this conversation.
41:33
SPEAKER_06: There, there was someone that poured into me, that helped me, that guided me.
41:36
SPEAKER_06: And in some ways, that's what Desire Street does for folks like Carlton.
41:40
SPEAKER_06: Um, and we really helped develop them so that they can be effective and sustainable for the long haul.
41:46
SPEAKER_06: And they're doing great work.
41:48
SPEAKER_06: Anyone anywhere near Dallas needs to check out Mercy Street for sure.
41:52
SPEAKER_02: In about five years from now, where do you envision all these efforts?
41:57
SPEAKER_06: Um, well, on the Desire Street front, I think we'll be uh connecting and and and developing more and more neighborhoods, and that ultimately many of the these great works will still be going on that may have, without our help, uh experienced burnout or or some other type of things.
42:15
SPEAKER_06: It's really hard.
42:16
SPEAKER_06: The average uh leader in an urban ministry like this is usually five years or less before they burn out.
42:22
SPEAKER_06: So we're trying to help help sustain that for the long haul.
42:26
SPEAKER_06: You know, on the Werfel trophy front, I really hope that more and more people are aware uh of what all the work is happening with with college football players.
42:35
SPEAKER_06: This year, I think we had 110 on the watch list, and and I'd love to just tell their stories more and more because it's inspiring when you when you hear uh what what people are doing.
42:46
SPEAKER_06: Usually in in this line of work, if you're not the best player on the best team or win the Heisman Trophy, you're you're you're not in the news unless you do something really bad.
42:55
SPEAKER_06: Right.
42:56
SPEAKER_06: So this is a way for us to promote the good that inspires us all, and hopefully we'll see more more and more of that.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was just wondering if if you had any metrics uh that you look at to sort of to see the any progress you're making, or is it mostly just on a personal level, you know, brick by brick kind of thing?
43:18
SPEAKER_02: Or do you ever zoom back from the larger the larger angle to see where things are headed?
43:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we look at all that, you know.
43:25
SPEAKER_06: Our particular work at Desire Street is really focused on the health of the leaders on all these organizations.
43:32
SPEAKER_06: And so we have a lot of metrics on what's makes a healthy organization, how does the leader be most effective and their impact in the neighborhood?
43:40
SPEAKER_06: And so we really, you know, our sense is to have the right people uh being successful leading the organizations will impact the most people.
43:49
SPEAKER_06: And now on the ground level, um, looking at definite uh reading levels, math levels, uh grade levels, graduation, all those sort of things, I think the the biggest success stories that we love to see, uh it's not intended to happen in every case, but when the kids grow up and they get opportunities to do anything they want and they want to go back and help.
44:12
SPEAKER_06: And so many of the programs now around the country are being led uh, you know, for instance, in New Orleans, on Desire Street, in the in the main building that was ruined in Katrina, you know, Oscar Brown is leading the way, and he was a kid that back in the day was a little knucklehead high school kid that we were wrestling with, and now he's you know, 40 uh 40-year-old man uh that's just the just the amazing leader in transforming lives, and that's what we want to see.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: Was the COVID interlude a tough thing to deal with with uh Desire Street and the Foundation or was it something that was galvanizing uh for you guys?
44:49
SPEAKER_06: You know, on the on the ground level, it was really difficult for for folks, you know.
44:54
SPEAKER_06: Usually when there's challenges in a society, it's it's the one on the the folks that are on the lower end of the rung who feel it the hardest, um, you know, losing a lot of the jobs weren't available anymore.
45:07
SPEAKER_06: A lot of the kids counted on their meals uh at school.
45:10
SPEAKER_06: And so when you don't have school, you're also now looking at uh not access to meals.
45:14
SPEAKER_06: You know, when a lot of kids like my kids went virtual, we you know, we have Wi-Fi and computers, a lot of kids didn't.
45:21
SPEAKER_06: So on the ground, there was more challenges.
45:23
SPEAKER_06: Um, an interesting phenomenon happened, and and you know, this is good and bad.
45:27
SPEAKER_06: You know, a lot of nonprofits were worried about their funding during COVID.
45:32
SPEAKER_06: But in in many ways, people that had money and in the stock market did well.
45:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
45:37
SPEAKER_06: So people with resources did well.
45:40
SPEAKER_06: So donations were were good.
45:42
SPEAKER_06: Um, but it is a little ironic, again, that in a time when so many people are suffering, some people somehow are still still making money and doing well.
45:51
SPEAKER_06: Um, but thankfully, many of them were very generous.
45:54
SPEAKER_06: And uh in Desire Street and to many other nonprofits were able to continue their work.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: Thanks to Danny Werple for stopping by, as well as Eric Crouch and Johnny Newton.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: We hope you enjoyed the show and that you'll come back next week when Michigan running back Blake Korm will be our featured guest.
46:10
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46:17
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46:25
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46:27
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46:35
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