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#640 - Ben Reilly Talks Drake vs Kendrick Lamar Beef, Favorite Comics, New Music & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yo, what's good is Ben Riley? Check me out on
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  Speaker 2: is there. You might hear us. Let's get into the interview, yo, man,
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  Speaker 2: Bootleg Cab Podcast. We got a special guest in here,
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  Speaker 2: finally getting them on after he dropped an incredible album
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  Speaker 2: the end of last year. I got Ben Riley, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on? My brother?
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  Speaker 3: Sir?
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  Speaker 2: You got your show in La tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Peppermint Club.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, how's a man? I feel like you've since
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you were here over a year ago.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say, maybe two.
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  Speaker 1: Years ago, three years ago, twenty three Damn I remember
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  Speaker 1: because because I had toy with West Side Boogie in
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  Speaker 1: Europe and it was right before I did that to
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  Speaker 1: it time Fly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, things have been going great for you, man.
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  Speaker 2: How are you feeling just in general, like I feel
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  Speaker 2: like you're finally starting to get the recognition the flowers
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  Speaker 2: from a lot of like important people, like, like, how
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  Speaker 2: are you feeling right now about everything?
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  Speaker 3: I feel good?
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  Speaker 1: You know, since my last time here, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: like took a lot of time to reconfigure, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in preparation for the album, so like label situations, all
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  Speaker 1: type of things. So like it's been like a labor
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  Speaker 1: of love but also like just like a real serious.
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  Speaker 3: Journey for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So like now I'm starting to, like, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: starting to get that momentum back going, starting to get
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  Speaker 1: some good movement. The album's been you know, well received mostly,
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  Speaker 1: so I feel great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to me. What is your label situation? Are
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  Speaker 2: you independent?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I'm independent? Okay, I'm independent. What I had to deal
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  Speaker 1: with Sony, but it was a destroy deal. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: still independent, right, but the situation was a little different.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like I mean, obviously there's been all this, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you've seen a lot of artists kind of
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  Speaker 2: I guess no shoe fits all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, rap shit, everybody path different is your?
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  Speaker 2: You think your path is to stay as independent as
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  Speaker 2: long as possible until like the right situation comes up.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, That's that's my philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to you know, retain ownership of what
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  Speaker 1: I have and you know, curate my career the.
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  Speaker 3: Way I want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, you know, if the right situation comes along
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  Speaker 1: and the terms really feel right for me and what
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  Speaker 1: I what I want out of this, I'm not mad
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  Speaker 1: at going that direction too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think the most important thing, too, is
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  Speaker 2: for someone like you is to like have someone who
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  Speaker 2: comes into the situation that gets the vision, that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to funk with.
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  Speaker 1: The vision exactly, and just empathize it, you know, throw
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  Speaker 1: gasoline on it.
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  Speaker 2: Not like hey man, we need you to do this
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  Speaker 2: kind of song.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, yeah, I feel like, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I have a good team that like lets me just
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  Speaker 1: be creative on my own and their input is very
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  Speaker 1: like you know, very much, So like you know, how
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  Speaker 1: do we amplithy what you're doing or add to it
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  Speaker 1: rather than take away?
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  Speaker 3: So like, yeah, just more pieces like that. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like with like changed.
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  Speaker 2: To there seems to be like this really dope movement
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  Speaker 2: going on. You know, I had Marco plus on, I've
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  Speaker 2: been talking with Chris Patrick for a minute. Obviously sinners
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  Speaker 2: and credit my brothers shout out. Yeah, but there is
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  Speaker 2: this like bubbling scene. I guess you could call it.
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  Speaker 2: That's on the underground. Yeah, they don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: underground means anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because they've been they've been saying it's
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  Speaker 1: like a new class type of situation, which I like,
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  Speaker 1: I fully fully accept for sure. But yeah, shout out Samarrow,
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  Speaker 1: that's the homie. Shout out Chris and Marco. Those my brothers,
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  Speaker 1: like we talked liuvin Vincent, we all talk like every day.
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  Speaker 3: Those are my dogs. And shout out Overcast that's my
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  Speaker 3: boy too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think we.
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  Speaker 1: that we already doing great stuff, but like just on
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  Speaker 1: a larger scale. I could see it for everybody. It's
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  Speaker 1: just we all got you know, we all got work
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  Speaker 1: to do. We're still like budding.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I saw Jeremy say something that
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  Speaker 2: there was this like group of a bunch of folks
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  Speaker 2: getting together to put together. Ahaaa, you a part of that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Why are you getting shished over here?
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  Speaker 2: The other white men already going to snitch? I saw
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  Speaker 2: you in the background. When was there shout out? When
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  Speaker 2: man shout out with man, Yeah, what are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 2: You guys doing a Justice League type of fu is
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  Speaker 2: it a project, a.
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  Speaker 1: Song, so because it's not necessarily my thing? Are you
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  Speaker 1: a part of I'm a part of something, but I can't.
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  Speaker 1: I can't be the one that just.
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  Speaker 2: When's a part of it too.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe possibly she just be around you know when, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when kicking in Atlanta with the rest of us.
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  Speaker 3: Some times, yeah, shout out, shout out say when yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's my dog. Win is amazing bro.
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  Speaker 2: So in theory, if you and a bunch of dope
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  Speaker 2: rappers around your age group in class were to get together,
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  Speaker 2: would you like to do a song with them or
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  Speaker 2: do a whole project with them? You know, in a
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  Speaker 2: hypothetical world that isn't real.
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  Speaker 3: In the hypothetical world that isn't real.
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  Speaker 1: If me and said artists, like you know, a Win
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  Speaker 1: or whoever were to get together and like I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: work on like a project or something, that would be cool,
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  Speaker 1: but that hasn't happened.
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  Speaker 2: Especially if like it was like, yo, let's do this
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  Speaker 2: in like a weekend and see what in the week Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like that'd be crazy, Like yo, let's just see how
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  Speaker 2: crazy it be.
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  Speaker 1: Have Blue Leg cav hosted. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: that's all right? The man that aired you out over there.
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  Speaker 2: He said everything you should definitely picked up on the mic. Hell. Yeah, yo,
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  Speaker 2: so talk to me about uh, you know, for for
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  Speaker 2: people who don't know, you know, I just dived into
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  Speaker 2: your Rob Markman interview shot to Rob who else was
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  Speaker 2: a part of wins team? So he I'm sure he
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  Speaker 2: knows the goodies and I'm gonna I'm gonna that man
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  Speaker 2: the genius. You are a huge comic book guy. If
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  Speaker 2: anyone who's been paying attention to you or listens to you,
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  Speaker 2: they would know that. Obviously your name is after Spider Man.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to give me your top three Spider
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  Speaker 2: Man movies.
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  Speaker 1: Movies Okay, Spider Man two for sure, Toby Toby. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into the Spider Verse. Yeah, the first one,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go damn the this is this
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  Speaker 1: is bad because like Andrew is my favorite version of
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go TASM one because I just really enjoy
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  Speaker 1: Andrew's portrayal of the character.
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  Speaker 2: I think it feels the same thinks Andrew's the best Garfield,
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  Speaker 2: the best, best, the best Spider Man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I feel like I feel like he's just
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  Speaker 1: well rounded. He's really really good at Spider Man, but
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  Speaker 1: his movies unfortunately didn't like they had good style. The
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  Speaker 1: first Spider Man was cool, the second one, the second
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  Speaker 1: one was all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that was the one with Jamie Fox.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but like and it's not
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's fair to just go
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  Speaker 1: all Toby because Toby's movies are the better movies to me.
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  Speaker 2: I think one and two specifically, Yeah, one and two,
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  Speaker 2: I think, Uh, I like the Spider Verse ship that
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  Speaker 2: I think the cartoon is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing, like if if animated movies didn't have that
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  Speaker 1: asterisk with it. Yeah, they have an asterisk because I
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  Speaker 1: honestly think at times I could say that they're better
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  Speaker 1: than the total ones for sure.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: How do you feel because there is this cool like pollination,
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: cross pollination of of that world, like and hip hop.
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  Speaker 2: We just saw a comic con. They did the panel, Yeah,
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: they did the panel, and they did the special edition
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  Speaker 2: comic book with mass appeal and like they face. Is
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: that something you kind of inspired to do, like on
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  Speaker 2: a bigger level where you want to bring those two
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  Speaker 2: worlds together in a real way.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I especially want to do a comic book. I
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  Speaker 1: want to do God Will and Yo, Sony, somebody let
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  Speaker 1: me do the Moules Morale soundtrack one day. You know
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  Speaker 1: that would be amazing, you know, Brooklyn, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But yeah, I want to do it on
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  Speaker 1: a larger scale one day. I've performed at a couple
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  Speaker 1: comic conventions, so I would love to do something like
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  Speaker 1: that on a larger scale, like I don't know, like
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  Speaker 1: combining a comic convention with like a music festival.
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  Speaker 2: Have you been to comic con yet? Not yet?
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  Speaker 3: Wild? Yeah, yeah, that's the one. I haven't been to
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: super Bowl for that. Yes, huge last year.
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: And I was like, what, you went to San Diego?
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: And Okay where San Diego?
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: They say it's the San Diego the New York.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think San Diego is just larger, It's
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: way bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to like a Peacemaker event. Did you
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: meet John Cena? He was in that motherfucker you've seen him?
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  Speaker 2: He walked right past me. He didn't see him? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I did, well, I mean he was invisible. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was just but he was in full costume.
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  Speaker 3: Oh ship. Yeah, he commssed the role.
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  Speaker 2: So it was just a helmet walking by.
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  Speaker 3: That's so hard.
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  Speaker 2: James Gunn was just hanging out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yo, shout out, shout out James Gunn. He likes
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  Speaker 1: hip hop like heavily.
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  Speaker 2: He had this group. So there's like if you did
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  Speaker 2: you watch Peacemaker season two, so there's like that rock
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  Speaker 2: music that's always held an inappropriate playing throughout the season.
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  Speaker 2: It's this group called Steel Panther.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, is that that's the That's the group they
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  Speaker 1: had on the boat scene.
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  Speaker 2: I think. So there's two groups. So there's the group
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  Speaker 2: that did the actual intro song.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's the one that's on the.
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  Speaker 2: Bay performed, but then there's this other group that did
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the soundtracks. So he had both of
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  Speaker 2: the bands performing and he was just upstairs just singing
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  Speaker 2: along one.
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  Speaker 3: With James good Man.
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  Speaker 2: James Gunn is the guy. Yeah, he's great. Did you
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  Speaker 2: like Peacemaker? Loved it? Did you? Were you? Because my
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: kid tipped he called the whole other universe being racist?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I called that offer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. My son's like, hey, you noticed something about that
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  Speaker 2: New World.
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  Speaker 3: That no black people nothing?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, yep, but like it, I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was going to be like because what is
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: it in DC?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's Earth X whether like all like Nazis
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  Speaker 3: or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be like that because like
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, like his brother's alive every day.
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  Speaker 2: It made sense, like why his dad was so happy,
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  Speaker 2: yes exactly, and like his family was thriving because it.
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  Speaker 3: In that world they would be video shit exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, man. Shout to John Cena and shout
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  Speaker 2: out to John Cena. What for you man? Like, obviously
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you. You take so much time and
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  Speaker 2: and and put so much attention to detail into your albums.
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  Speaker 2: Have you already started working on your next project?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? Like idea wise for sure?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, because what I really want to do,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I don't want to take years between projects.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not afforded that lux regis yet, so right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I want to.
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  Speaker 2: I want to kind of keep the pressure going exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to. I want to double back as
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  Speaker 1: soon as I possibly can. But yeah, I put a
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  Speaker 1: lot of effort and detail into it.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: So talk to me. You know, it feels like obviously
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  Speaker 2: you have you have such a I guess a multi
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: geography background obviously here in New York, Maryland for a
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: little bit Maryland for Atlanta. Do you feel like because Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like has had a commercially maybe like a
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: drought Lyrically, Uh, I feel like it's the page is turning,
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  Speaker 2: Like all the young guys are like obviously j I
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: d you know, it's incredible. But in terms of like
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: most of the commercial music out of Atlanta, I would say,
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: like lyric lyricism hasn't been at the forefront of it.
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  Speaker 2: Not to say that these guys can't be you know,
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  Speaker 2: but it's been more about songwriting, melody, et cetera. For
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: you to it's like, do you feel like Atlanta's like
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  Speaker 2: new generation is in a place to kind of like
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: carry on what you know, guys like Outcast and Goodie
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  Speaker 2: Mob And.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like I feel like Atlanta's like
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: new new rappers can definitely we could do both, Like
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  Speaker 1: if you include me in that, I believe I could
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  Speaker 1: do both. Soave, Kenny Mason, Marco plus like Jade, everybody
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  Speaker 1: can do both. Again, it's just a matter of like
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  Speaker 1: the awareness and reach you know, when that when that
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  Speaker 1: time comes for everyone, I mean obviously is crazy he's
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  Speaker 1: already out of it, but just for us that's still
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  Speaker 1: working our way up. Yeah, I think I think we
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  Speaker 1: can definitely do that.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that you you had said that you were
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  Speaker 2: kind of like coming up and like you'd first kind
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: of like got on a lot of the rap shit
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  Speaker 2: six and parts like that. Who do you think was
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  Speaker 2: like the number one like influence on you to start
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  Speaker 2: kind of like pushing your pen.
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  Speaker 3: More as an artist, jay Z? Yeah? For sure.
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  Speaker 2: Was there any particular album or so so growing up?
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  Speaker 1: Obviously I was familiar with like Hove, but like when
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  Speaker 1: it came down to like all right, I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 1: the time to like really really like get nice, I
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: actually like sat down and listened.
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  Speaker 3: To all his albums like one one week. I just
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: listened to everything.
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  Speaker 2: It was like almost going to school.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, And then I realized how many like
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: of my favorite artists like borrow from him. When you
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: look at like Kendrick Cole, Wayne, everybody, everybody borrows like
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  Speaker 1: a jay Z lyric and flips it some way somehow.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say jay Z. Jay Z is the one,
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  Speaker 1: like especially like on my last album, I referenced him
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  Speaker 1: like a lot. I referenced a lot of his lyrics,
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  Speaker 1: like almost on every other song.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah do you. I also say you're a big Wayne guy.
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  Speaker 3: Love Wayne.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Did you see the Russell's take on Little Wayne?
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: I don't agree.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you at that moment, Yeah I was.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I made a little tweet about it, shout shout out
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: of the Russell. I respect Lo Russell. You know what
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think what he's doing is though, But
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I just yeah, I didn't agree with his take, but
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: I saw where he was coming from. I will say
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: that obviously with the with the way people clipped media, Like.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I saw the totality of what he said, and then
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: like what got clipped made it seem a lot.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: More like malicious things.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I agree with that, but I definitely
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: think it's like it's one of those things. It's also
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: how I feel about how people talk about hip hop
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: nowadays too, where it's like, oh, there's no substance in
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: hip hop nowadays, and it's like you're just not looking
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: for it. Wayne had a lot of songs with substance.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: You just weren't privy to it because that wasn't the Wayne.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Definitely had some songs with substance. No, he had a lot.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: He had a lot of Georgy had Georgia Bushy had
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Georgia bush.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: He had some.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, it wasn't obviously it wasn't his
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: m O. And Wayne say that himself. He said that
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: in the interviews, like that's not my MO, but he
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: does do it.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I think like part of like why we love hip
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: hop is because we're able to live vicariously through a
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: lot of people. And it's like just because like Lil
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Wayne's story is you know a lot of I mean
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: I think about like a song like I Feel Like Dying,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: which is one of my favorite songs. So I've never
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: been that high.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: For sure, it is unique. It's unique to the users.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: To hear a rapper like like you know the pick,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Like the imagery of that song is so crazy. It's like,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: damn that sounds hard. The same way they're like we
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: love gangster rap to an extent, like obviously like I
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: came up in a really bad area. But it's like
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: if I'm listening to g Z talk about getting ship
• 16:27
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• 16:30
  Speaker 2: favorite rap group.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Clips, Oh yeah, I was speeping the other you got
• 16:34
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• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I had this forever. And then I interviewed
• 16:38
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• 16:41
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  Speaker 1: Man.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Much love to my brothers over there. What was your
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: favorite album outside of your own last year?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Clips? Okay, I really enjoyed Clips and Playboard CARDI.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: The Cardio album is a fucking fun listen.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I fucking love it. I work out. I work
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: out to it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much I listened to that album
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: until the Spotify raps came out and it was in
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: your top albums, and I was like, oh, ship, because
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: there's like three or four of them joints, and I'll
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: just throw on.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: It just like yeah, it's nice. Jordan is so so hard.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Crank Crank is my ship? Like wheezy, uh, what's this?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: You gotta nor come? Overly? Overly? Overly is hard too?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I say Clips and Clips and Cardi were
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the two albums I played the most last year for sure?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Do you is it hard for you to because I
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: know some artists like Will, if they're in the middle
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: of creating, they'll try not to listen to that much
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: other music because they sure to be subconsciously influenced. Is
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that an easy like are you somebody who? Yes?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So that's something I've started to adopt because yeah, I
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: like to, Like when I was working on my like
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: last like my newest project, say, I really just listen
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to myself, Like mostly I listened to myself as a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: fan and as a.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Critic for sure.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel like so you were kind of
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: like listening to your own ship but trying to put
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: different different glasses. Yeah, yep, so you kind of see
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: your shit through different.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: See it through different perspectives because obviously I'm I'm biased.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I think my ship is the greatest because I'm the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: person that made it, So as an artist, you're supposed
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to feel like that. But also I try to listen
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to you know, I hear a lot of outside input
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: where people are like saying like, oh, I feel like
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: this about it, So I try to listen for what
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: they're hearing also listen to it like Okay, like how
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: can I improve this, or like what do I do
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to make myself stand out a little bit more? Or
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: how do I approach this with a new way of
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: lyricism or like new way of how I write my lyrics.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's like a gift in the
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: curse with that, because it's a slippery slope, because it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: like you want to be true to yourself and not
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: let too much outside criticism for sure. Yeah yeah, but
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: also like you know, evolve.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Of course, I think for me, it's really just like
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you got to evolve and you got to adapt. And
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, if you got everybody telling
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you you good or like, you know, yes to ideas,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you kind of going just end up doing the same shit.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like, like, how do you push yourself exactly.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I think about like Mac Miller and like how every
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: album is.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So different, so different, or I look at it like
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Kan Kanye, you know guy Kid Cuddy, Like
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: every project is different, Tyler, The projects are different, and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: every project has its esthetic and theme sometimes it's own character.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: That's something I really do subscribe to.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: So talk about just, you know, for for people who
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: don't know the significance of your album cover and that door,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I know you have the address tattooed on you rightest,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: yet for people who haven't seen you, talk about it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: What is the significance of the album cover and just
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: break that down for everybody.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So uh so with the door on the album cover
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: is a we got a replica made of my childhood
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: like home door back in Brooklyn five ninety Osborne Street
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: shot out Brownsville. You know, yeah, but we we got
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: a replicab that door made. And for me, it's important
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: for me to include something like that on what I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: call my debut album because I feel like your debut
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: album is supposed it's supposed to establish a few things,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: supposed to establish who you are, where you from, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and like just the foundation for the rest your career,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and for me it was very it was very very
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: important for me to like say, hey, although I am
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: associated as an Atlanta artist, I am originally a Brooklyn
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: part like I'm a kid from Brooklyn, so I want
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: to be established as hey, I am.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: A Brooklyn rapper.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Why I do maintain this Atlanta atmosphere of tumors. My
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: story started here, So I want to include something that
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that shows that for me, that was that door, that
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: building my aunt. When my aunt moved to New York,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: she bought that building. That was the building that me
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and my family was raised in. So it's important for
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: me to include something like that because like, one day
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I want to buy that building.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I'm.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Saying, and yeah, and you know, on some like real
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: corny fucking shit, we cracked the door up and they say, oh,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: we're welcoming you into the story.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It's like your origin story. It is like number one.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Exactly, No, it is. It's my superhero origin story. It's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: my amazing Fantasy fifteen. So it's like that is where
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: things start for me, is where I belie leave things.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: It's the foundation for things going forward. You know, if
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: it's a bed, this is why I laid my sheets
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and my covers and my pillows.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I'm making my bed. And this is the first step.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: To for people who don't know, Brownsville is one of
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the areas in Brooklyn that it still hasn't been all
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the way gentrified.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: It hasn't, you know.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: When I grew up, I would hear about it through
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Little Fame, Billy Dance and those guys. But what is
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: how long did you live there?
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Back and forth my entire life.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: So I moved after middle school middle school, so I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: went to this place called FDA eight that was in
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: East New York, which is neighboring cities. But and then
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I moved to Atlanta. And when I moved to Atlanta,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I will spend summers back in Brooklyn.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So, so like Brooklyn was very much a part of
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: your DNA in terms of just your like growing up.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, because I feel like if that makes a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: lot more sense hearing.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: You, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's my foundation. It gave me
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like I can be an independent person. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: think that's, you know, due to be like growing up
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: an only child. While I do have siblings, I grew
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: up only child. I think it's due to that, but
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: also like just growing up in that environment. I never
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: took a school bus until I moved to Atlanta, you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: so I had to either walk to school or take
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the city bus or to train or you know, and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: you kind of developed that that own independence. You have
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to go to the store and get your own food sometimes,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you know, like stuff like that. So yeah, it gave
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: me the foundation to be the man niny.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I always say kids who grew up in New York,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: they're like they have like a whole nother level of
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: independence that they don't even realize that they lived with.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that until until I was in Atlanta,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, Like I kind of right in.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Like Atlanta or l A low key shelter. Yeah, you
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: got to be walking down the street amongst like of
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: strangers every Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't even say sheltered. I think it's just
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: like the because I don't I know people from l A.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I know people from Atlanta. That's not sheltered per se.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: But it's just the the experience growing up. It's just different.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You could get in your car with your parents and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: go to school and get picked up and go home
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and then not really have interactions with many people outside
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: of your circle in New York. That's like impossible.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: No, you can't.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: You can't go about in New York without just seeing
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: seeing some wild shit or rubbing shoulders with a million strangers.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Even if you stay in your neighborhood, there's like there's
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: always something someone knew, someone something to see, this culture
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: being displayed, you know what I'm saying. I grew up
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: with a lot of like, uh, Guyanese people, Jamaican people,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and Puerto Rican people, so it was just so much
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to soak in growing up, you know what I'm saying.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Uh So, yeah, yeah.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Talk to me. You obviously announced your your how many
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: how many shows you doing? Six? Six?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: So I like to say seven because I like to
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: include the Atlanta show because that was the album really
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: show and I feel like that kind of like spearheaded it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, six. So tonight we're doing LA and.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Providence that was already it happened.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's already happened tonight. It's the last one technically.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: But not really.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: So we're actually, uh, we had to postpone the DC
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: show due to the weather. Because it was like snowing
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So d C has now been moved to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: March twenty six. Get your tickets kids, and.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how is Providence because I used to DJ
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: in Providence a lot. There's a one of my homies
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: is a legend out there, so I would be out
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: there a lot.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Really, it was Providences. Dope, properdence was dope, beautiful women
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: out there. That's that's the Cape Verdians be outside.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: We were just talking about that, remember the first time
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: in Rhode Island. Looked at my boy. I'm like, yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: what's all this? Like, you know Ambrose. Yeah, she's half
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: of one of them. Oh word, oh that's crazy. She's
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: half Cape verdie Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Everyone was telling me like, oh man, the Cape Verdiano.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, did.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: They try to force you to go to their Uh?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: They have a place out there called the New York
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Systems where they have these things called hot means.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: We try to get that ship. Uh it was it
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: was on Dyke Street. Yeah, we tried that.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: We try to. It's so crazy because they'll tell you like, yo,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: you got to go get a hot winterer from New
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: York Systems and it was right behind the venue we
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: was at. Yeah, we ended up at because they didn't
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: have it's just chili dogs bro like.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Because they had uh yeah, because that's all they had
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: We was like, bro, we don't want to know Glizzies.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, that's it's literally like the Glizzy style. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: they got good Italian food because there's all Mafia ship
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in Providence.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Were okay, we have some good Italian food out in Boston.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Boston is the best Boston has. I swear to god,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Boston has the best Italian food.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: And that's what a lot of people say.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Say, but I'll take it over New York.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: That's what a lot of people say though.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And then they got those all night bakeries that are
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: open in that same little area, went to like little.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a little canola or something. It was good.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: What like what Obviously you guys picked those dates strategically.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: You must have something going in like the England area
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: where you can see the analytics.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know, Hogo's my most stream city. Boston
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is up there. Obviously New York is up there.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: We had a we had a couple like just uh
• 28:10
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• 28:14
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• 28:15
  Speaker 2: For yeah, I'm sure, like that's the plus about being
• 28:18
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• 28:19
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• 28:21
  Speaker 2: we could do this year this year to this year
• 28:24
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• 28:25
  Speaker 1: This is also like I'm also rebuilding my uh like
• 28:29
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• 28:34
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  Speaker 2: If you have Spider Man as you are, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: your your favorite comic book, Who's who rounds out? You're
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: starting five? Okay, so you see your Marvel Image or
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: dark Horse.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Spider Man, Batman Flash. I'll say
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: spider Man Man Flash, I'll go Wolverine, and I'll add
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I'll add Invincible. Oh I love that, man, I've read
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: that comic three times over. That shit is I love it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I had never heard of this prior to the Amazon show. Yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: but that Amazon show, it's amazing you. So you don't know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: you don't know anything. You season that motherfucker Dad is crazy. Yo.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Alright, so season four is about to drop. I don't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: know if you tune into season two or three.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Dude. I only watched season one and then there was
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: like the little in between or things that they tried
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: to drop it to Adam Eve Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: and I just didn't get into it. But season one.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Give it a go.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Finish it out because I promise you the way season
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: three ends, you go and look back and season want
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to be like, damn, that was child's play.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: His Pops is great. Pops is like a million I can't.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil nothing for you. Give it
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a go because season four about to come out in
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: like two weeks. Do you like the Boys? I love
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the Boys? Yeah, I just I just watched the finale trailer.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I just oh yeah, the trailer just came out. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: think today, yeah, today. Yeah, it's Homelander like in the top.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's somehow but with today's like political climate.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: He feels somehow tied.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: To like yeah, yeah, he feels like he's a little
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: on the nose. Yeah, sad tire, But yeah, Homeland is great.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Homeland is great. He's a big baby, but that's I mean,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: that's part of it. I like Homelander.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: He's a great villain.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I like a bad villain for sure.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: C W shows Flash or Arrow, Oh damn, that's a
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: good one. Small Ville, small vill Smallville.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Flash. I enjoyed
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Flashed more than Arrow.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: But the first part of Flash yeah, three.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, after three just dropped off.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: If it came like Yo, what do how many fucking
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: times are we gonna do it? Yeah? It's like it's
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: like the Walking Dead of comic book shows. Yeah, man,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: you're like, Yo, how many times are these guys gonna
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: get split up? Into? Fun?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Fact walk Walking Dead is a comic book show. It's
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: made by the same dude that made Inviscible yeeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: But with the Flash, bro, I kind of got annoyed
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: with it because it's like, you're not the Flashbury, we
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: are all the Flash. That shit pissed me off, and like, yeah,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: after season three.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I fell off it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And then you want to like, DC fucking
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: fumbled the whole Flash movie opportunity because that ship that
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: show was white hot, and they would have did the
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: movie the right way. That ship would have been cracking.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And they kept putting off that movie too. They
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: canceled it twice.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: And then the bro was like kind of crazy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: It was throw Asra Miller he was he.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Well, they figured out a way to correct the ship.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Me too, me too. I like what James Gunn is doing.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I like Peacemaker.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I like, uh, well, this isn't I like the Superman.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Superman was great. I'm excited for Supergirl. Jason won Moore's Lebo.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect casting. I think that's a
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: much better cast than Aquaman.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Someone told me that James gun is very very good
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: at using animals to tug it every heart string. Yes,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: because I was thinking about Rocket Rocket because like Guardians three,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh yeah yeah mm hmm, and then
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Eagle Eagerly, and then super.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Dog the super Dog, and then uh in Suicide Squad
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the second one.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: He had the weasel yeah, and.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: King Shark, Like he's really good with the animal thing.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know he he likes he likes animals.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: You when you prepare for this, because this is on
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the radar freestyle that happened. This cipher was super dope man.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Gabe for putting it together. I thought
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: everybody showed up and really did understood the assignment. What
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: kind of preparation did you have going into that? Did
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: you know who you were going to be rapping with? Like, yes, so.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: We prepare like because we knew about it, and he
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: hit us in maybe like November October November, like y'all
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: want to do this, but we didn't get to beat
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: until like maybe a couple of weeks before.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Now we got to beat like like three weeks before.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I definitely like, like I knew who I
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: was rapping against. I'm I'm in a that with like
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: most of the guys that I was rapping against, right,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: not against rapping with, And uh, like I knew Ray
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: was going to be there, raise the homie me and
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Ray being locked in for a minute.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I knew Ray was going to be there.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Some of the other people like Luisi and Marlin, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: think I think they were added towards the end. Some
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: people were like supposed to be there and it didn't
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: work out.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: But uh yeah yeah.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Once once I kind of knew who was all going
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to be there, I'm like, okay, I know, I kind
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: of gotta go.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: You gotta come with it. Yeah.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I already was going to do that anyway with it,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: like with the people I was already privy to. But
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: once we got the final list, like like someone someone
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: like Nassign, the sign is crazy, So I'm like, okay,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: like I wanted.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That sounds good.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really really good with that.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: So it's like I want to like make sure that
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I'm able to like stand out or stand next to Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Sure, is there anybody who's like the post DMD you
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: just that you've kind of found out is like aware
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: of what you're doing or a fan of what you're doing.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: It's kind of tripped you out recently?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Hmmmm who tripped me out recently?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Two people?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Well, Anthony Fantanna. I really like the Needle Drop of course. Yeah,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that that was a big one for me and Game
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Game Game.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Game Game.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Showed me a lot of love. We did some stuff together.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna come.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Out or not.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: But white ceiling, red Rose, white ceiling.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, game was one of the ones too, and there's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: somebody else and it's just escaping my mind right now.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: But I was did Fantano review Decipher, Cipher review Decipher.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And then he was like, y'all want to like check
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: into your stuff, and he's been showing love.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like he you know, I feel
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like I've seen people give him some ship for other stuff,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: but yeah, he's he at least approaches his reviews from
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: like a fans perspective and it doesn't feel like a hater. Yeah.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: No, I think I value his opinion because I like
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the way he breaks down to criticize his albums.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Even if his albums I like it, and I'd be like.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes he's sometimes I don't.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Agree with this, Yeah, a lot of times I don't agree,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: but I understand where he comes from when he like
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: reviews stuff.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's important too because he explains his perspective
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: as opposed to like Open and Pitchfork and you're like
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: this guy, like I think Ja Cole's album got like
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: a five yea, And I'm like, how, but I love
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the Cold album. There's I don't know if you fucked
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: with it. But I think I don't understand what this
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: just automatic hate for J Cole. Yeah, I don't like,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't like that I had
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I think Cold's album is amazing, but I definitely had
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: a different expectation for it. But you know, once I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: listened to it one and realize, like, this is exactly
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: what he wanted the fall Off to be. I thought
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the fall Off was gonna be something different from like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: just the years of hype. But once I like really
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: really took some time and sat with it, I'm like, no,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: this is like how it's supposed to be.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I'm sure evolved too, Yeah, for sure, because it went
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: from like I'm sure it wasn't always going to be
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a double disk.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah you could tell, Yeah, I feel like you could
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: tell that. But I think I think it's a great album,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and I think I think even with the criticisms, it
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: is like Cole's. If someone says it's not a great album,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Cole's not great album would be most people's.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Best in my personal opinion.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I think that if we think about
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: like Kendrick's discography or even Outcast discography, it's like, Yo,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the worst Outcast album is still one of the.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Best, exactly exactly, That's exactly how I feel.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: That's exactly how I feel.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, but people, you know and people
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: people for some reason got real, real bad hate.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Towards Cole because I don't understand the battle situation. I mean,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you know what, dude, I think that that decision has
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: aged gracefully. Uh yeah, yeah, because it was really between
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: them two bruhs.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You could tell.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I could tell it was really a it's always been
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: between them too.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And you could tell, you know, you could tell Cole
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: being included in Kendrick's shots at Drake was like more
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: of a.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Like I don't even well now he had a lot
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: had a line, Uh did he say something on on
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: First Person Shooter?
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: He said, if you walk around with that stick he
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: and andre Th K Cole got the stick song. There
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: was a couple of lines where it's like, Okay, that's
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that's that's for Cold. But I think it was more
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: so like you just standing by him. I want him,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: but you saying like, at.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: The same time, you're on tour headlining with Cold, headlining
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: with Drake, standing with him.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Like you kind of gotta get it just because you
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: buy him.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like I'm glad eventually everyone just got
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: out of the way, because initially it was like it
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: did feel like it was too much hip hop civil war.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: It was too much bro. It was like it was.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Frick Ross has a song and the weekend was taking
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: shots off the toy one on the Future album.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Rather than rocky like, and it was fun. It was
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: all fun, but it was like bro, like I want
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I'm here for the main event.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought the best bars Drake had the whole
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: beef were actually towards a sad probably and not Kendrick. Yeah,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: because I knew all the Kendrick shit was just like
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: your short.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I will say I will say because
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I've gotten killed on Twitter, but I will say on
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: family matters minus like a few lines because I me
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: personally like all is fair in love and war. But
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: when y'all start throwing allegate they both threw allegations at
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: each other, and.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like I like, I remember, Yeah,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: it was that night DJ had called me and right
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: after it dropped and we were like, oh, he ain't
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: got nothing. Yeah. Yeah, I heard a lot of people
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: say that. I heard fifteen minutes later, Meet the grand
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I called him like, are you fucking kidding me? This?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: What's going on? Right? Yo? That ship was wild. It
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: was one of the best nights ever.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: That was That was that whole weekend, that whole weekend.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: It was back to back to back to back to back. Yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: all that shit was crazy.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I will say I listened to Family Matters recently, and
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: as it does, it's hard. It has aged better than
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I remember.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: It's hard. I like the last part, the last kinstrick
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: is over there. So that last part was he start
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: he had I think Kendrick whooped his ass. But and
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Family Matters Drake had the best Mike Jack Prince scheme right. Yeah,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I thought that that part no, no time to make
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a new ficture of a change, get on.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: That part was hard. That was hard. I'll say this.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I'll say that.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Hip hop one, hip hop one for sure for sure.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Now I say that to say that Drake didn't win,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: but hip hop no, No.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: But once I feel like, you know, once people are
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: really like digging into lyrics the way that they are now.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, watching like a bunch of dudes do YouTube breakdowns
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: on raps? That were like, never they don't even give
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: a fuck about hip hop exactly.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like once we're at that point where people
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: are like dissecting the.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Smallest bar where it's like that's probably not even about
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: who's who is about.
• 40:48
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• 40:50
  Speaker 1: paying attention to what's being said.
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  Speaker 2: feel like two like unfortunately for Drake. Like, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like because you know, the thing about Drake is there's
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of people who are dye Herd Drake fans,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: but that's the only rap thing listen to.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like that about a lot of
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Drake fans.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And so like a lot of those louder voices were
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: amplified during this beef and then like I feel like
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Drake just kind of got kind of boxed into like
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: these brothers over here.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's unfortunately because Drake is really like though,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: like and he was the same. That's that's what that's
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: my favorite Drake Abum.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: He's a real he's a real hip hop head, like
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you know, he came up with like like being a
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: fan of little Brother and doing something and you know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Joe Budden all that, Like, I just think I also
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: think he leaned into that a little bit for sure,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: because he kind of leaned into who was fucking with him.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of like you know, when you in
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a in a battle space, in the headspace of like
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I'm at like I'm figuratively at war, you kind of
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you kind of do have to choose who you align with.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there was some mis miscalculations. I
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: hope even just the name Iceman for an album.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Right now, it's like, I know you're from Canada, but
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: read the room Latino fans with timing is a little
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: old deal.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: We should hit the rebrand the album. I'm excited for it, though.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I hope it's good. I hope it's good.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for it because, like, so much about this
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: battle reminds me of NAS and jay Z, and I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: interested to see what if he's going to do his
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: own blueprint too.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like, Yo, by the way, that's one of
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the most slept on jay Z songs. That's what I'm
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: saying that that just blaze beat is crazy. Yeah, like
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: h O b A. Yeah, but yeah, I think he's
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I think he's already done his version of that with
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the fighting Irish freestyle or yes, yes, and it feels
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: like he hasn't let go. He hasn't let go.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I'm just excited because like that hasn't
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: been like formally put out, So I'm excited to hear
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: like how he really like like we got Kendricks, you know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: on whack out, whacked out murals, So I'm interested to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: see how he approaches, like, Hey, this is.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Why I want to know what the out, what the
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: intro is gonna sound like.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I think the intro is gonna be the most important
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: song on that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I agree, that's gonna be the first impression everybody has.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: That and I think that's where he's probably gonna unload
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: how he's feeling.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. Me too, Me too, I
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: will listen to it. Yeah, the Drake fans are I
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: am known as a very heavy Drake critiquer.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, no one's above criticism.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: So for sure all time great rapper, Yeah for sure,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: top ten for sure, one of my one of my
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: favorite rappers of all time above Wayne. No, really, I don't
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: put Drake above waen.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I got to man, I just can't. I just I
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: just feel like and listen, man, I am. I am
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: what they would call on the six side of the
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Internet at a drag hater. Okay, yeah, I gotta put
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Drake above Wayne.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, I can't do it. I can't do it.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like his discography washes Wayne's.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: I can't do I don't know if I could do it.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Carter Too is my favorite Wayne album.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I think the I mean, I think Carter two is
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the best Wayne album, but my favorites the first Carter
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: because it had they had like B M. Junior and
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: and fucking I miss my dogs.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: I miss those amazing.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: But Carter three, man, it holds up. It's hits now.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I'll say this about Wayne, and I say this a
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: lot because I do love Little Wayne, not as much
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: as this guy. But I think No Ceilings, which was
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, was the last time we really
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: have like prime way prime Wayne, because I think Carter
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: four had strong singles. It did, but I think as
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: a body of work it fell short for me valid
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: and I think after that we got like the weird,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: like I'm not a human being Revolver.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I like some of those though some of those have
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like good songs like Bump Blowing and.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: There are some great singles. But I just think like
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: in terms of like me just pressing play and being like, damn,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: little Wayne is Yeah, I feel like no Ceilings is
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: the last time that we were able to kind of say.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, sorry for the weight, sorry for the weight. One
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: was great to me.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Roland he had the Tupac bag, he had a
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: damn what was the other one he's had.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, he's had incredible features and records, and
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I just mean, like, like front Top, I just feelings
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: was crazy.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I ain't at at that. I ain't at
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: at that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I do think there was definitely a point where I
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: fell out of love with Wayne, but like not in
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the sense of like a love Russell, but like but
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: like like where I was like, okay, like Wayne was
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: all I listened to at one point, so like and
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: then once he kind of started to get into that space,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of like, do.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: You think album per album, Wayne's discography is better than Drake's.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: You can't say that, right, I think I can say that,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: but but yeah I might, I might.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I might be able to say.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: That because I even think like a whack Drake album, Like,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: what would you consider like a Drake's worst.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Album, Drake's worst album, let's say for the dogs.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I don'tkay, I don't think that albums.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a great album. There's some shit on that.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: It's some shit on it.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't think like Certified lover Boy, like a lot
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: of people didn't like it at first, but.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't like this aged well, yeah I didn't. I
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: didn't like Stif I Love a Boy much either. But
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: there's like a track run between like TSU and into
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Deep and pipe down, Like there's joints on there where
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, na cold.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: And I think her I mean, her loss was great.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I love her love her loss was soked. I absolutely
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: love that album. Oh honestly, never Mind, I'll say that honestly,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: never Mind was very I love house music, but I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: didn't It.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Wasn't a champion. Jimmy Crooks was Jimmy.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Cooks was Jimmy Cooks was fire, Sticky was fire, Steiky
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: was dope, Sticky was dope.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I gotta give I gotta give
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: the nod to Drake man, all right, I got I
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: don't fight you on it. I got a little waite
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: about eighteenth all time. Really yeah, I think I think.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I think for me it's my age because I WANs
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: in my top five top t so I'm thirty nine.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I'm thirty.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I respect you for saying yeah, top ten. Yeah, I
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: think top ten is about as good as it gets.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: From for me.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: For me, my top five is like Jay z uh
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Nas Biggie most three stacks. I'll go Kendrick Cole, I'll
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: go Wayne, I'll put I'll put Wayne over, I put
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: push your.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: T over Wayne. See, but that's just that's just nasty
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: because like.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: You know, you know the history. That's crazy. Uh No.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I mean I love Push two though I love too,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I love pushing a lot people pushing one of my
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: favorite rappers too.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I put, I think you gotta put. This is gonna
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: sound crazy. You gotta put ice Cube above Wayne.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be mad at someone who did.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I don't I put common Wayne.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: You West Coast too common. I don't know if I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: put them above Wayne, but b I knew b By
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: heart in middle school.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I put big Boy above Little Wayne. Okay, we got
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: to stop the big boy dish. We can't. We can't
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: split them up.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: You just can't split them up. You know, I feel
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: you with that.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I put DMX above Little Wayne.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I got Little Wayne like nineteen I mean Wayne.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Did I leave out Tupac?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I think I did?
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tupac too, But I mean there's so many like.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Just I want to know to give you the crazy
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: hot take, that's not that crazy for people who know me.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Freddy Gibbs is better than Lil Wayne. He has a
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: better biography.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not rocket. I love Gibbs too.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Better discography, better rapper. I think a wrap circles around
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Little Wayne.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Emotionally. Wayne just does so much for me.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I'm nostalgically, I gues, yeah, he just he means so
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Black Thought is a better rapper than Litla Wayne.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: And the Roots discography is better than Lil Wayne's discography.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. Like,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I won't fight you on that.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: What about Kanye Kanye conversation gets interesting because we know
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: he hasn't written a lot of his own stuff, but
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: he has written a lot of his own stuff. Yeah yes,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: But as an artist, I mean that he's top tier.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean Kanye Kanye but has some of
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: the best, has probably the best.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I think he is probably my favorite artist of all time,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: but I couldn't be as my favorite rapper of all times,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: like the best. I think Hove is the one like that.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think Wayne. I mean, I think
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: jay Z is definitely like one.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: To me. Jy is like the one guy who, even
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: if you don't agree with it, you can't really argue.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Again Yeah yeah, because like all across the board, whether
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: it's lyricism or or even sales, you can't really.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: And then I got Nas right there.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's cool. My middle name is Nas, like I
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: love Nas.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: And then number three it's Kendrick Lamar.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that. I mean, I'm not mad
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: at that he.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Took Drake's head out. I'm not put it on a
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: spike in front of his house and content. I'm not
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: mad at that at all.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Like I said, Kendricks in my Top five tens.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I've been saying this, I've been saying, like, you know,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of people in my
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: generation to put Biggie in their top two three one
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: off of two albums. Yeah, Kendricks, Kendricks, we want to
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: talk about the best discographies.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: And he's checked every box. Yes, lyrically he is.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think. I think what he's done
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: is unprecedented.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: He's dropped bangers, bangers, He's dropped he's on the beat.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: He's one of the beat hip hop history.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: He's dropped bangers, he's.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Dropped the awards, got the classics.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: He's dropped like cultural movements as songs. Yeah, what else
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: do you need? Yeah? Yeah, for sure. I mean, you're
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: not wrong, You're not wrong.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I think if they're now let me know if you
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: think this is crazy. If there were to be an
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: argument against jay Z that most people couldn't argue against,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: if you were to just lay everything out, how do
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: you feel separate? I think Kendrick has the best argument
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: against Hope.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: You you want to know what my pushback on that is?
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Material?
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I think I think Kendrick's material is like obviously, but
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I think more. I need more volume for me to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: say that Hope has fourteen albums.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Not all of them are good, Not all of them
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: are good, most of them. Listen, he could have keep that,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: could have kept Magna Carter could have kept that. Listen.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give him a past because I love
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: the Volume one. I love Volume one. It aged gracefully.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I I bump Volume one every day, like not every day,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: but like once a week for sure.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: What But but my thing is is if we talk
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: about the span, like James first album is ninety six, right,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: so it's like we're in two that.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Was thirty thirty years ago. It's the it's the anniversary year.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Of Kendricks first album was twenty twelve. Yes, So if
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: you're looking at just timeline, I.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Mean yeah, like I mean, don't get me wrong, He's
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: what the most of what a rapper is.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Also, Blueprint three wasn't great, but it wasn't it wasn't
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: It did have Empire state of mind on it. His
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: biggest thing.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: He had run this town. Run This town was great.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Run this town was great. But as as a project.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: It doesn't amount to Blue Blueprint too though. Two point
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: some of the best ship two.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Points like to Meet the Parents, Yeah, okay, one of
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: the greatest stories telling songs of all time.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, But like forty four incredible. Four to forty
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: four is amazing, American Gangsters fire.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite jay Z album?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Blueprint?
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, Blueprint right now like in my in my space
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: currently though Volume one has been like the one I've
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: been playing the most. But yeah, but Blueprint is my
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: number one like jay Z album, I think I think
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: it's like just so polished.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I got reasonable doubt and then depending on the day,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: black album or Blueprint, black album is crazy.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, you argue to me, you arguing,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: You argue in one A, one B, one C. You
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: can rotate it cold rotate because I think Black album
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: is perfect too.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What about what is your like, your favorite album
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: of all time? Album of all time?
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Did you do?
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: What's my favorite album of all time? I know, damn?
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: What is my favorite album all time? I put a,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: I put a.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. You just thump me. I'd actually,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: you know what, I'd actually go to Butterfly. Ah yeah, yeah,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I'll go to Butterfly.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Put another check in Kendrick as the Goats for so
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I would say Butterfly.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: That's an album that like I think, I think, like
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I can't just listen to one song, I would have
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to listen to the whole thing.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: It's so crazy about that album too, because like, uh,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: it's it was so good when it came out, but
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: it was so different than like why people it was
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: like for some fans it was just too much, but
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: it just aged so well. Yeah, yeah, not.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Super relevant, like when the protests happened, Like I'm out,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: like because I've been several protests and like we're gonna.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Be all right?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Is the is the the energy out there? People are
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: chanting that tears in their eyes, tear gas. You know
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: that that album is important.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: For Do you feel like, because I feel like we're
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: in this interesting social space, we've been in it for
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: a while, But do you feel like any sort of
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: inclination or responsibility to be more socially pointed.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: In your music?
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah? If not in my music as a person. And
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: like if i'm speaking, you know what I'm saying, Like
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: hip hop is inherently political, and I feel like in
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: this day and age was so much of politics being.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Like the landscape is just fucked right now, super Fight.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Before the cameras cut on, we were talking about you
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: like this war is so it's like I feel like
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: it's extremely important, especially as hip hop artists, to really
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: like actually like speak to that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: That's that's what this ship was built upon.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, you know, I always say this.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, you know, when I was growing up,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: we had like obviously like Public Enemy and ice Cream
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: super political and there's a guy named a Mortal Technique.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: I attach was hell Ya.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm always like, I'm like, yeo, who's from this
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: younger generation that's going like Big Manson is doing.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: A really good Jack Manson is really good.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: BIG's kind of damn near o G.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, Vic's been in it for a while.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Chances a lot of them Chicago boys really like they
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: really really because like even like disabas and like like
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: femp dots, like Chicago is very very like politic forward,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: if you will. But there's a lot of you know,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of cast that's really really like even in
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: like uh my atmosphere or like slightly above like someone
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: like a Mavi, Yeah he's super he's super political as well.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's I don't know, I just
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's extremely important to really really stand on
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: like your morals and your beliefs, especially as an artist.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: You gotta let that you speak, all right.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: So your album is out, it's called Save the Vinyls out.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Yet not yet, we're working on the vinyl And.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Then there's this super project coming out that you and
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: a bunch of other rappers steriously. I don't know, we'll
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: see what we'll see, Ben Riley, Jeremy heck snitched on y'all. Jeremy,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: What a heck of a guy. What a heck of
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: a guy. So, yeah, man, you got a lot. Obviously,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: this year is going to be super busy for you.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Are you jumping on any one else's tour this year? Possibly?
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: We're still working that out.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this run of dates might not be the
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: last time to see you on the road in twenty
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: twenty six.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I will hope not. Yeah, we'll see, Yeah, we'll see.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: And then I'm assuming. I mean, you gotta have some
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: music coming this year outside of the supergroup.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about, but yeah,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the goal is to have some some more, some more,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of dope stuff drop before the years.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Of Sure there it is, man, Ben Riley. We're gonna
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: have you do a freestyle too, which will come out
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: on a later date okay, but I appreciate you for
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: pulling up Man. The albums incredible.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: You are a bright light amongst this new generation of
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: bullshit that's been coming.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, appreciate you. Man. There it is. Hey, we
• 57:58
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