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Chuck & Buck 5-26 Hour 2: Headlines and something seems off with this... ABC's of the Mariners and the holiday weekend! · Chuck in the Morning

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think there's not an easy science,
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: you know, the figgyback.
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: Thing, and and uh, you know, I think, uh.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Always, you know, you're kind of weigh in a lot
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: of different things, and and uh, you know, a tough
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: you know decision in terms of the Rock, and and uh,
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I think he continues to prove to be
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: an incredibly selfless player. And and you know, I think,
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: uh that both those guys really threw the ball well,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: and and I thought kept that lineup down. Was it
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: predetermined fore innings or count there it was? I mean,
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was predetermined, but but I think,
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: you know, just once Bryce gets going there, it's, you know,
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to get, you know, to to
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: to set them down.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: And so I.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: Think it was a you know, a situation where we
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: went with it. And and uh again, tough one, I know,
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, I think Rock deserves a
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: lot of press.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, Dan Wilson.
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: Last night after the game, you would have thought the
• 1:05
  Speaker 3: Mariners lost, but they did win nine to two the
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: final score, and the piggyback went the complete game. Distance
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: allowed just two runs, and even those two runs, you
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: pitched differently when you're up seven, might have been might
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: not have scored at all. So the piggyback combo of
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: Luis Castillo and Bryce Miller through two games two point one.
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: To two e er.
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: That's pretty decent, which is better than any other spot
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: in the rotation this year.
• 1:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, piggyback clearly didn't work last night.
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: There are some things about it that are working. I mean,
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: I don't love the idea.
• 1:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there can be two things can be true. You
• 1:51
  Speaker 5: cannot like it, but you can acknowledge that it works.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not.
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: It's not been a disaster, right, that's for sure. Yes,
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: it ended disastrously.
• 2:02
  Speaker 4: Massive disaster the first time.
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: But that's because Andres munos inherited and by like two
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: of those four runs that they've allowed over seventeen innings
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: were inherited from munos who couldn't close the door. And
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: you know that didn't work. And I hopefully they learned
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: a lesson. We didn't get to see if that could
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: be applied last night because you were up seven, right,
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: but hopefully the organization.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: Learned a lesson from that and won't do that again.
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: I think we do have to protect a precious one
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: run lead and leave that in the ninth inning to
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: our most seasoned closer outer of games and Andres Munjos.
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: But we didn't get to see if they learned that
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: lesson last night because the win was so easy because
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: we hit and both pitchers pitched very very well.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: In winning by the final score of nine to two.
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: But this has been obviously a big topic already on
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: the show, will continue to be. We'll get Ryan Heey's opin,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on at nine o'clock today. ABC's of the
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: M's coming up a little bit later on this hour
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  Speaker 3: as well, and we will talk about the Piggyback at
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: great length, Piggyback two and Theater's near You Electric Boogaloo.
• 3:22
  Speaker 4: This time Bryce right Castile.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll say this, I mean, I'm gonna get to
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  Speaker 3: the headlines here in a little bit. But obviously it's
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: they haven't explained it well to Bryce Miller and Luis Castile.
• 3:36
  Speaker 4: Doesn't seem like it.
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: For both of those guys who have been angry both games,
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: like some thing's not getting communicated well to the two
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: of them. And if it is being communicated well and
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: they're just acting like children afterwards, then again we're gonna
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: have to have a conversation about that.
• 3:56
  Speaker 5: Well, especially given what we heard from Pete Woodworth right
• 3:58
  Speaker 5: that there they'll play where wherever, winever, great point, like,
• 4:02
  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter, the inning, doesn't matter when they come in.
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they will pitch whenever, wherever because they're there for
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: their teammates except for never.
• 4:11
  Speaker 5: Right, except for when it's uncomfortable.
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there might be one exception to that, and that
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: is if they're not starting and going to distance. All right,
• 4:24
  Speaker 3: let's get to your headlines. They're brought to you by
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  Speaker 3: Frost Brewed Corps. Light Mariners do win over the A's
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: last night, nine to two. Tonight, the same two teams
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  Speaker 3: will play in Sacramento, California, six forty. First pitch, two
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: right handers. Emerson Hancock starts for the good guys. Luis
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: Severino will pitch for the A's tonight. There will be
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: no piggyback tonight, so nothing to be angry about there,
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: So first pitch at six forty. But with a win
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: the Mariners, despite their poor play pretty much all season long,
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: we'll sit a half game out of first place in
• 4:57
  Speaker 3: the American League West.
• 4:58
  Speaker 4: That feels weird.
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: The road to all is set in college baseball.
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to the Cougs who have made the field of
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: sixty four. They will be participating in the Eugene region.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: They're really good the Ducks this year. They're the number
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: one seed in that region. I think eleven ranked overall.
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: If your memory serves me.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, gokugs weird to say UCLA is the favorite.
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: You're not going to say go Bruins, are you?
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  Speaker 5: No?
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: No, no, no no.
• 5:26
  Speaker 4: I can support the Coogs out feeling sick.
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: NBA, the Knicks swept the Cleveland Cavaliers out of the
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: Eastern Conference finals. I thought games were supposed to get
• 5:38
  Speaker 3: better and closer the longer you win in a tournament. No,
• 5:42
  Speaker 3: not going to happen. One thirty to ninety three the
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: final score there. So the Knicks are moving on to
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: the NBA Finals for the first time this century, first
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: time since nineteen ninety nine. San Antonio and Oklahoma City
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: will play tonight in Oklahoma.
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: It will be Game five of that shit.
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: Which is even at two games a peace Stanley Cup
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: Final playoffs. We're not quite to the finals yet. Carolina
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: survived Montreal in Montreal last night, three two overtime winner
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: Svetch the cough too little, too late, buddy, too little
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: too late to show up now with the game winner
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: for the Hurricanes, who are up to one in that series.
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: And then I assume tonight probably should have wrote this down.
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: Probably Vegas and Colorado, I would assume tonight.
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: I believe.
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  Speaker 3: So the morning's been a little bit out of whack
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: around here. It's the three day weekend, I guess is
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: what's thrown us off. But yes, Colorado Vegas will play
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: tonight in Vegas six o'clock. Vegas is up three to
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: zero in that series, so they can take out the
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: Avalanche tonight, and the Avalanche might be without both McKinnon
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: and mccarr.
• 6:50
  Speaker 4: That won't bode well for them.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think they're cooked. I think they're cooked. So
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: that's be six o'clock. They'll drop the puck in Vegas tonight. Finally,
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: well not finally. LAFC won nothing over the Sounders on Sunday. Finally,
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: the National Football League Roger Goodell said over the weekend
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: that it's nonsense. The earlier report about not having not
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: being much interest in Seahawks ownership says there's intense interest
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: in Seahawks ownership.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: So apparently that was a lie one way or the other.
• 7:24
  Speaker 4: It's a lie, yeah, one way or another.
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: OTAs gets started as well today for the Seahawks. So
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell will be joining us for the rest of
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: the week at seven oh five, so we'll hear from
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: him and Devin Witherspoon report over the weekend that the
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: two sides, the Seahawks and Devin Witherspoon are not close
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: on a contract extension where they've obviously already reached one
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: with Jex and Smith and Jigba this off season. So
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: that is going to be the topic of conversation. But
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: I just want to mention, just briefly, just like how
• 7:58
  Speaker 3: out of whack things are. Oh, you give a morning
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: show the day off, I forgot my bag, I forgot
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: my past to get into the building, apparently Jewbell, who
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: works at one of our other stations, because I just
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: went to the restroom in the break and I had
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: Usually I don't do that, right, I don't do that.
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: That always happens in the morning before I even come here.
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: All that stuff happens before I leave the house.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: It has to happen. It's part of the routine.
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: But you have an extra day off and you sleep
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: in a couple of days and suddenly you are completely out.
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: Of your routine.
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: And so to add to it, we have shorter breaks
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: for some reason here this morning, which is fun.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: So I I.
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: Was like racing down the hallway to do something that
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: I normally don't have to do in the break, and
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: then I get that done. And can I just say this, Yeah,
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: like it is twenty twenty six. Have we had not
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: advanced far enough in our abilities to make things easier
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: to not stack the one toilet paper roll on top
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: of the other toilet paper roll because the friction doesn't
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: allow it to ever roll out.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: The right way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 9:19
  Speaker 5: You know, I value everything you offer to us, Kimberly Clark.
• 9:23
  Speaker 5: But if we could make the toilet paper rolls like
• 9:26
  Speaker 5: one the one it should drop down when the other
• 9:29
  Speaker 5: one's empty instead of just sitting on it, it.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: Just sits on there. Yeah, and then if it's brand new,
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: forget about it.
• 9:34
  Speaker 5: If both of them are branded like one square at
• 9:36
  Speaker 5: a time, can't spare a square there?
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: How have we not ergonomically figured out a way to
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: do that better?
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: Great question?
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to go after that thing like Wolverine.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: They were like I did. I had to tear it out.
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: Because I had such a little time to get back
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: on the air anyway, So it's been a little laughable,
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: but U but we're here with you, Ashley and Chuck
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: with you here, Chuck and Buck in the Morning Sports
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about something that's not as disgusting.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you navigated it.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Devin Witherspoon.
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: So the idea heading into the offseason was that both
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: JSN and Devin Witherspoon, we're not only going to have
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: not only earned their pay extensions and pay raises and
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: we're going to be paid amongst the top players at
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: their position in the National Football League, that they were
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: so good at what they've done that they would get
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: their extensions done early.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: So that nobody had to worry about that.
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  Speaker 3: And Jsn's already gotten his done, and we just assumed
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: that at some point after John got done drafting and
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: free agent ing and then you know, roster juggling and
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: trying to create space for later moves, that then he
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: would be able to focus, you know, before we get
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: to training camp. And we do have a window coming
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: up before training camp on getting Devin Witherspoon's deal done,
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: making him happy, extending him because it seems like.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: A no brainer going forward. Uh and and.
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: Yet we get a report over the weekend suggesting that
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: the two sides aren't even close. That is really hard
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: for me to believe. That is really hard for me
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: to buy. Number One, I'm gonna just say this, I
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: think the report is garbage. I think whoever said that
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: it probably is something like, Hey, we're gonna meet later,
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: right We're not worried, We're gonna do OTAs right now,
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: and then we're gonna take a little summer break and then,
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: you know, before training camp, maybe we get with Spoon
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: and then we still work something out in training camp
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: so it doesn't become a distraction. But also keep in mind,
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: we don't have to do anything right now because we
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: can control him for another season beyond this year, so
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: you know, no big, no big deal. That's that's my reaction.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: I think that the report itself is garbage. Number two.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: If it is true, if I'm wrong about that, if
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not reading the tea leaves correctly, then I have
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: to ask, how.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Is that possible?
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: How could you be on those that different of a page.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: How could you not start close?
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: I could say, I could see we aren't at the
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: finish line, and maybe that could take a while, and
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: maybe some hurt feelings come up as you have to
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: kind of arbitrate the thing, because you've got to tell
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: him why he's not worth as much as what he
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: and his agent think. And then he's got to tell you,
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: you know, how much they're screwing up if they don't
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: give him top market value and not increase it beyond
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: top market value. So if there are some finer points
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: to haggle or a few millions to haggle over, maybe
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: the agent's like, we don't want just the next brick
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: in the road beyond Trent McDuffie. We want something that
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: blows the market away. We want to set a new
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: high bar. Apparently, Devin Witherspoon's agent is the same agent
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: as Christian and Gonzales, so he's kind of working them
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: in tandem this offseason. He's the standout, maybe the best
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: corner in the league, Patriots cornerback, so he's got them
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: both at the same time and they're basically in the
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: same situation. So maybe he's using them in tandem to
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: kind of set an even higher bar than what Trent
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: McDuffie did, kind of blow it out of the water.
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: McDuffie signed a four year, one hundred and twenty four
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: million dollars deal when he was traded to the Rams
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: this offseason, So that's the new high bar. So there
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: could be some negotiation haggling, maybe even some hurt feelings
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: in the process before it does get done, and maybe
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: you don't even get done. There's even a world where
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: I can believe that it.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: Doesn't get done, not this offseason, maybe never.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: You could even convince me of that that maybe the
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: agent and Witherspoon are so dug in on what they
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: feel their client is worth that it's something John's not
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: willing to pay. I'll even believe that before I believe
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: that they are not close on negotiations, because to me,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know how that is possible. You know, all
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: you have to do is say he's getting to be
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: a free agent, we're trying to sign him early. We
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: just did the same thing with JSN he was obviously watching.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: McDuffie makes four years, one twenty four that's the new
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: high bar.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: So it's got to at least.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Be around four years one twenty four, Right, that's gotta
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: be where it starts or in the vicinity. So if
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: it's not close, what does that mean? Does that mean
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: John and Mike have come in with a low ball
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: offer to somebody that they absolutely love an adore.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: That seems that seems far fetched.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Months after JSN was given exactly what he once Or
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: does that mean, like I said earlier, that agent and
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Spoon are saying, we don't want just next brick in
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: the road money. Thirty one million ain't gonna cut it,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: because two three years from.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Now that's gonna look like a real bargain. We want
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: fifty I mean, well.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: It's unless one of those two things has happened. That
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: John and Mike have made a a slap in the
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: face low offer, which I can't believe that they would do.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think it doesn't seem like they would.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Or Spoon and his agent are asking for quarterback money,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: then how on earth could they not be close?
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: How could all?
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Right, five years one fifty five, that's that's probably should be.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Your opening offer if you're the Seahawks.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Five years, one fifty five, that's what thirty one million
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: dollars a year? That puts you right at McDuffie's annual salary,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: but with an extra year since he's younger, five years,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: one fifty five. If you're not starting there, I think
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: you're making a mistake. If you're the Seahawks. And if
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: that's not at least making Witherspoon happy, maybe he could
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: be happier. Maybe they do want to haggle it, negotiate
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: a little bit more because they want a little bit
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: more than that. But it shouldn't be Oh that's way off.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: If that's way off, then we got a problem with
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Spoon and the agent. So it's just hard for me
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: to believe, Ashley that in any world that this negotiation,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: which should be one of the easier ones. I mean,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: we got Spoon done or Jassn done in ten minutes,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: how this one shouldn't be just as easy, just like, oh, hey,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: there's the market. We want to show you how much
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: we love you, your age, your production value.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I see what McDuffie made.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: We're going to give you that plus an extra year.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: And here's our opening offer, our opening salvo. And if
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: the reaction is not even close, what, Yeah, it has
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: to at least be close.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it has it seems like it has to be
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: an exaggeration on the report, because one, I don't think
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks are going into lowball him. They didn't do
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: that with JSN. Why would they do that with Devin Witherspoon,
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: who they loved just as much. They didn't even lowball
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker. They offered him twelve million dollars good point,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: So why would they then come back and try to
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: lowball Devin Witherspoon, who is vital to their organization's future.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: It's just not gonna happen.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: So it leads me to think that if there's any
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: possibility that they are far apart, that it would have
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: to be on the agent's side being a little greedy,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: perhaps in telling his client, oh, no, we can get
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: you more, we can get you more, because we know
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: how much they want you, we know how much they
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: need you. And in that case, well shame on you.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: I understand you've got a job to do. But you
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: know he's still gonna make the highest, which will be
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: the highest for ten minutes. Yeah you know, but that's
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: how it always works. Somebody's the next highest all the time,
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: and I just, yeah, I have a hard time believing
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: that they could be that far apart, because it would
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: take some one side being completely ignorant to what's going on.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Agreed, it'd be one side not just not operating, Yeah,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: not operating with any sort of good faith negotiations. That's
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: that's either the Sea Yawks saying, hey, we just paid
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: that guy. We can't afford to pay you too, not
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: at top market value, and so we're gonna give you.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Three or seventy five.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Well, and I just I can't I can't live in
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: that world. I can't believe that Mike McDonald and John Schneider,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: that would be the olive branch they'd extend to Devid
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Witherspoon to start the negotiations. I don't think they would slap.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think they would carry a white glove into
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the room and slap Devon across the face with it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: And that's how they would start, right, And so my
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: guess is they're starting in around McDuffie money, probably right there. Maybe,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: like I said, maybe an extra year since he's younger,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: And that's where they're starting. So the other possibility is
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: that the agent saying, oh no, no, no, I see
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: where the money in the NFL is going and we
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I have two such precious commodities that I'm not just
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: going to take the next salary. I'm not taking a
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: McDuffie's salary. I'm gonna need five years, three hundred million.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, if that's what he's doing, then okay, we're
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: not close.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: No, and we're not gonna be so unless.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Somebody is just slapping the face, you know, that's the
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: way they're starting the negotiation, because that's a slap in
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the face.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, no, no, no, no, even though you drafted him,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: groomed him, made him a champion that my client loves
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: playing for you, doesn't want to play anywhere else. We're
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: going to make things so financially uncomfortable for you you're
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: gonna have to either consider trading him.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: That would be like if he was unhappy here, which
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's exactly.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Like, if that's the way you're operating as agent, then
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: client has to fire agent. If you are Devin Witherspoon,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: You're like, I want to be here. I want to
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: be paid like I deserve.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: It's my turn.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: JSN got his, I want mine. I know I'm not
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: gonna make JSN money because receivers make more. But I
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: want to be the highest paid cornerback, like you said,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: even if it's for five minutes. I want the next
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: brick in the road contract, and you're my agent. Go
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: get me that and make sure I stay a seahawk.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: That's got to be the marching orders. And then if
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the guy representing you walks in and says, we're not
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: going to talk about cornerback money, my client is trend
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: send it. Hey, you're paying, you're paying JSN what well,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: we want more than that. If that's the way he's operating,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: then he's not operating in good faith and Spoon needs
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: to cut him. Now I'm just reading into it. I
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: don't know if either of those things are happening. And
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: as I said I started off with, I think it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: probably a bogus report. It's just hard for me to
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: believe that JSN was so easy because they did the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: right thing. This is the highest per year salary. We're
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: gonna make you the highest paid receiver in the NFL.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: You were Offensive Player of the Year, even if your
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: trophy doesn't say it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: We're gonna make it.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: And they got it done in record time and probably
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: for less than what JSN could have gotten, and so
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: you've already used the blueprint. If you didn't use the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: same blueprint on Witherspoon, then you're making a mistake. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I just don't think those two guys make mistakes now,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: So I don't know why we dealt with this report.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: My first inclination is to think that it's just totally false,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: because it is impossible for me to believe that they've
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: started negotiations and they're way off.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: There's no way you can be way off.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Somebody's screwing up royally, right, Yeah, it's got to be
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks offering that next As you said, brick in
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: the road contract and jsen Or Jazen, Devin Witherspoon and
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: his agent should be expecting that, they shouldn't be expecting
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: more than that. I mean, do you not know how
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: contract in the NFL go. Somebody gets the next highest,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: then somebody gets the next highest. So if you just
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: want to wait till till Christian Gonzales, if it's a
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: standoff between Christian Gonzalez and Devin Witherspoon to find out
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: who gets the highest.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Well it's same agent, right, same agent.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: But I'm saying if they're saying, well, no, I don't
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: want to sign yet because I want to be the highest.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I don't want him to be there.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but the whole thing, Yeah, I just
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: don't buy that they're far apart.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it starts for me at five years,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: one fifty five, and that's where it starts. And if
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: that has insulted anybody in the room, then shame on
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: the other people.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: In the room.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then you're not paying attention, right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: That's that's where it's gonna be at. Now, maybe we,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: maybe the Seahawks do have to go higher than that.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe they do have a few concerns about his durability.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: He's a smaller corner that plays like he's Bobby Wagner.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's he throws his body around. So maybe
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: there is a little bit of reluctance. Maybe they do
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: start at four. But if they are at four at
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: McDuffie money, that shouldn't insult anybody in the room to
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: say we're gonna make you the highest paid cornerback in
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: the National Football League.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: But that's where it should start.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: And if that is how you get insulted, I would
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: love to be insulted.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Right, can I please get insulted? Somebody insult me? I
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: don't mean it.
• 23:45
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• 23:51
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• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Three point three K A R F M over pretty much.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Because you're we're almost we're half almost halfway done through
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: our Tuesday.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Most of the top of the hill.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Now, once you hit Wednesday, that's the halfway point. And
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: then after Wednesday, you're on Friday Eve. Friday doesn't count
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: because who really puts an effort on Friday.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Well, let's face it, we are not working. Ever, this
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: is just us playing around at radio.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Pretty true.
• 24:17
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• 24:20
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• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Soak it up with a biscuit. So here we go.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: ABC's of the M's a lot to discuss. We've had
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of games played since last we were on
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: the radio Friday morning, and so let's get you caught
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: up to date. We lost last left off at the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: letter oh in our alphabet, our Daily Mariners segment where
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: we allowed the alphabet to be our guide through a
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: few segments, and.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Oh is oops.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: We had an oops on Sunday, and then we got
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: it right back yesterday. The A's had an oops that
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: opened up the door for us to score six runs
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: in the third inning. That double play grounder that Josh
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Naylor should have headed into, but Darnell her k Eyes
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: missed the h he fumbled the ground ball, and then
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Jeff McNeil, with a weird pivot at second where he
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: tried to make the highlight film rather than just getting
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: the out, allowed Josh Naylor to beat it out.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: He doesn't. If they don't screw that up, we don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: score in the third inning last night. That was a
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: six run mistake.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: And then it's a big difference on that piggyback.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: That's right, that's a six run mistake you know that
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: was made last night by not handling that six' four
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to three routine double play with a slow runner going
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: down the first baseline opened up the door for, us
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and we took advantage of.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: It certainly we kicked the door.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: In they left the door, Open we kicked the door. In,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: now same thing similarly happened the previous. Game AND i
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: don't want this entire day just to be about yesterday's
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: nine to, win because it was an ugly, weekend very
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: frustrating weekend In Kansas. City and it's not just because
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: The royals have our. Number there was some really there's
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: some really sloppy baseball being played by this. Team, yeah
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: maybe it wasn't last, night but over the weekend it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Was and we had another oops moment Where Brian wu
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: seemed to be cruising along in that. Game and then
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the next, thing you, Know Mitch garver does not challenge
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: a three to two, strike that's a. Walk Then Kyle
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: isabel decides to lay down a, bunt which he did
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: all day long. Yesterday that that was a hit for
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of. People just Think Brian wu threw that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Away yes he did throw it, away and the error
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: cost you second and third instead of first and. Second
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: but there's a reason why all those runs were. Earned
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that was considered a. Hit he was going to beat that,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: out but he never even. Bunts if you don't have
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: a guy at first and you don't have a guy
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: at first If Mitch garver challenges a strike call on
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: three to, two and he's supposed to be the best
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: challenger in the entire league right, statistically and.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Yet lately he won't.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Challenge AND i don't know if he's trying to protect his,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: stats which would be unforgivable because that's not exactly a
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: stat worth. Protecting nelsh help your pitcher out in that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Situation then we also had you JP's defense And Mitch
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: garver tripping over a bat and all sorts of. Things
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: randy A Rose arena not taking the proper route to
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: a long fly ball the left field not to be
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: camped under that ball instead of.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Still drifting backwards off.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Balance to try to get a ball that's near the
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: top of the wall and should have been caught.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Because it hung. Up so just sloppy.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Baseball so we had an oops and it went from
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: should have been an easy to four runs and we.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Lost and then we got an oops back last night
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: should have been an easy inning for The a's and
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: we ended up with six runs and crews to the.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Victory but that's when they say defense matters and that
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: you can't give teams extra. Outs if those aren't two
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: prime examples of, IT i don't know what to give.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: You because that was a four run mistake By Mitch.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Garver that was a six run mistake last night By
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: darnell Her.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Knees, yeah and as simple in The garver case as
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: one pitch. ALL i, MEAN i was shocked he didn't
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: challenge that and yelling at the, television, which as we've talked,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: about is the new aspect of baseball that you're mad at,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: challenges but.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: We're so bad at. Challenging we're so, bad, bad are.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Terrible we're so.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: BAD i don't understand.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: It and and you, know they say we don't have
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: half the pitching. Issues if we, don't if these errors
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: don't force our pitchers to make that extra, pitch and
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: in this case it's an you, know it was a
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: one pitch.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Difference that's. Frustrating that's.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Frustrating, YEAH i, mean Is bell never lays down the
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: bunch who just stays on in rhythm and probably gets
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: through six or seven innings with a good pitch count
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: if we just aren't playing sloppy ball behind him and
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: it ends up blowing up in the inning because we
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: had an, oops and it leads to all sorts of
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: carnage and then you lose that baseball game and an
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: ugly fashion ps for. Piggyback of, course it has to
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: be for. Piggyback and we've got the eight o'clock segment
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: coming up, today Which i'm Gonna ashley AND i are
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: kind of recap our thoughts from six o'clock there and
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: maybe add a few different wrinkles to. It but one
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: thing that we didn't get to really sink our teeth
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: into have been the reactions By castillo And, miller who
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: are great teammates and great, dudes and obviously neither one
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: of them wants to be involved in this piggyback. THING i,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: mean that's that's very, clear AND i get why they,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: wouldn't but why we're getting so such angered reactions from
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: both of.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: THEM i, mean last.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Night went about as well as it could go under the.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Circumstances four From, castile five From, miller easy, win.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Bullpen gets a night. Off that's the design of the damn.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Thing and, Look bryce was up at eighty three pitches
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: in a normal, Setting you're not going to pitch much
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: more than. That castile got taken out after, FOUR i
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: get why THE i would have kept him in for.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Five he is the.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Veteran wins still do matter to, pitchers even though they
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: don't to the analytics, world and maybe they don't do
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: front office.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Nerds but you also had a cushion to work with, There.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: You had a cushion to work. With the rock was. Rolling,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: yeah go ahead.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And let him pitch his fifth, inning let him get the,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: win and Then miller goes. Four, yeah but they had different, strategy,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Certainly but for both of them to be as, ANGRY
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: i Mean castile's throwing equipment in the Dugout bryce for
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: the second game in a. Row his postgame comments are
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: not veiled at. All he clearly does not want to
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: be involved in this. THING i, Mean, ashley are they
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: just not communicating their? Intent how do They how did
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: they both look so caught off guard by being taken
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: out of the game when we all knew what the
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: plan was AND i know That castillo And. Miller did
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: they just think That dan was going to change his
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: mind in the middle of the game if they were pitching,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: well Which i'm not to understand why they. Were why
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: they're not accepting of it when they had to be
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: instructed on how.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: This was going to go.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: DOWN i would have thought. So and you, know if
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: they expected The mariners to change a game plan and
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: game then they're clearly not aware of the team that
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: they're playing for because they have a plan and usually
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: they stick to it with regards of when someone's coming
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: out or what's going.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: On and maybe to a. Fault, yeah.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Agreed AND i THINK i can understand not wanting to
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: be pulled when you think you're doing well and you're,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: frustrated you don't want to, go you. KNOW i, MEAN
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: i think all pitchers would be frustrated for. THAT i
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: could understand Why Luis castillo was frustrated last. NIGHT i
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: could understand why it's uncomfortable For miller to come in.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: In a reliever.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Situation AND i can understand the uncomfortability of.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: It for.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: SURE i think fans are uncomfortable with. It it is
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: not something we all want to see go on for
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: a long. TIME i do wonder, if In bryce's, words you, know, saying,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: oh it's not, COMFORTABLE i don't love, This, Okay well
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: you're being.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Honest AND i can appreciate.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: That he was angry when he got pulled from the first, game,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: right and it wasn't even happy last, night even though
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: it worked swimmingly, right.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Exactly and that's WHERE i wish it's in some point
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: that he kind of would have taken a. PAGE i
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: can't Believe i'm saying this out Of Dan wilson's book
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: and just been, like, yeah it's an uncomfortable, situation but
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: it worked tonight and we got the, win and you,
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: know and we move. On. YEAH i wish it was
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: more of a generalized because, YES i get, it nobody's
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: thrilled with the.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Piggyback well the.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Works, well THEN i would say take it. Further what
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: would you, like what would make you? Happy what's your?
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Solution bryce tell us and tell, US i, mean you
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: don't have to always follow. Us you can speak to
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: the media and tell, us what if you guys want
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: a six man, Rotation but do you have everybody on
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: board with it so that everybody's happy and that they
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: get to. Start because if that's gonna be the, case
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: then we're gonna need you to be more effective than
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: what you've been, lately because we got an awful lot
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: of guys in this rotation that can't go through six, innings,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Right and if you're, gonna if we're gonna go to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: a six man, rotation everybody's got to get through six
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: innings because we're down a.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Reliever so what what do you want to?
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Do do you want somebody to be chosen to go
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: right to the? Bullpen and then we just decide that
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: and suddenly they become our seventh. Starter because if that
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: happens and you get used to being in the bullpen
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and working in shorter, Spurts i'm gonna Trust Kate anderson
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: if there's an injury to the starting rotation more so
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Than i'm going to activate a relief pitcher back into
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: the starting.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Rotation so you.
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  Speaker 3: Knew we, knew we knew four weeks this was gonna
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: be a difficult decision to, make but a good problem to, have,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Right and so this is the solution they went with for,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: now not the one THAT i would have gone. TO i,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: said just put castile in the, bullpen, Right but if
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: he's going to get that angry last, night then how.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Angry was he going to be if he just got
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: relegated to the?
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Bullpen, yeah although he didn't seem angry when he came
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: out of the, bullpen AND i think both of them
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: are irritated that when they're, pitching, well they're getting pulled
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: from the game before they want to get. PULLED i don't,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: THINK i, mean he didn't seem angry when he came
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  Speaker 5: in from the bullpen And piggyback.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Won, True SO i think it's just.
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  Speaker 5: Okay BUT i WISH i think AND i can understand
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: that BECAUSE i think we all agreed we would have
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: liked to See castillo come. Out you have a significant,
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: lead let him work through his fifth, inning and you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: what if he gets into too much, trouble you can
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: use For rare as the bridge. Again we know if
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: he gets used, yesterday he can pitch again. Today he's
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: not gonna get any.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Trouble you're up, seven he is.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: EXACTLY i didn't think that it's a big. Deal and,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: yeah you've given him a, cushion so let the guy.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Finish i'd be annoyed. Too.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: It just feels like to me that they may not
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: have gone far enough communicating what we're, doing why we're doing,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: it and why we're doing it for the two of you.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: TWO i, mean we're not doing, this, yeah Because.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Kirby logan AND wu aren't getting sent to the.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Bullpen, yeah we're we're also doing it for you because
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: we want to keep you. Extended, yeah and and so
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: for them to be as angry as they've, been and
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: it's just it's.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Strange H, FINALLY q is for questionable.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Man, OBVIOUSLY Jp crawford's arm strength is way beyond. Questionable
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: there's something. Wrong If Brendan donovan comes back, SOON i
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: think that's the convenient excuse to put him on THE
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: i L i don't think we're gonna miss as. BAD
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: i know he had a home run last, night but
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: he also struck out three times and popped up once
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: and hit That that on base percentage that everybody keeps
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: DEFENDING jp with as really kind of sunk to an
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: all time low. LATELY i don't know if you've paid
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: attention to, it but it's down LIKE i think three
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: twenty five or something like. That it's not the three
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: seventy that it was not long. Ago so he's really
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: not doing anything. Well AND i know we had A
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: jp LoveFest last week on the. Show yeah the way
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: for the way he handled, Everything but the truth of
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: the matter is his offense does not justify his defense right.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Now he should not be in the starting. Lineup and
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: if he can't make the throw its, short then he
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: can't make the throw from. Third AND i know it's
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: a different, throw but we're not talking about just being
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: off a little.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Bit, no he seems hurt or.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Something he can't make a.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Throw so it's either in his head psychologically that he
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: can't make it or a combination of the. Two but
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: he those throws aren't just because he's deep in the.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Hole those are routine that he is not getting anywhere
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: close at times To Josh, Naylor it's not gonna work
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: any better at third than it is at. Short so
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: When donovan is, READY i think the move Is donovan's.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Activated JP's on the il if nothing, else just to
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: buy some, time.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: And that's the that's the decision going.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Forward there is no justification FOR Jp crawford being in
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: our starting lineup right. Now he's not, hitting he's not,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: fielding and he can't.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Run, Yeah and it's it's so weird to come from
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: the selflessness talk of last week and him, saying you,
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Know i'll go to third AND i love, that and,
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: that you, know him being a good teammate and a
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: good leader and wanting to do whatever he can to
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: help the. TEAM i think he would recognize what he's
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: doing right now is not helping the.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Team he is a. DETRIMENT i hate to put it that.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Way it's, unfortunate but it's Because i'm not saying it
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: personally Because JP's, Great, yeah but As i'm a professional
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: sports talk show host AND i do like to say
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: it like it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Is and he is a detriment to winning right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Now and if this is AND i don't care if
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: he had a wind blown home run last night when
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: you were already up seven to, NOTHING i don't give
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: it there six. NOTHING i don't give a damn about.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: That he does not have a good. Approach he's trying
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: to hit home runs and that either leads to him striking,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: out which he can't do from the leadoff, spot or popping.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Up so with four out of his five at bats
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: he was striking out or popping. Up so what he
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: had a wind blown home run on any other, night
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: that's a fly ball to center?
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Field, Yeah and if his defense was, great you'd excuse,
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: it or vice. Versa if his if His, yeah if
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: his defense was, great and his offense was, Bad, okay
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: you've got a great, shortstop so you're gonna you're just
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: gonna put up with the bat at. Bats or if
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: his offense was great and his defense was, suspect, okay
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: he's contributing to the to.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: SCORING i don't know a right, Either, uh.
• 38:45
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  Speaker 3: Day so how many softball games did you actually watch
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• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Weekend, well we had three On, saturday two On, sunday
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  Speaker 5: one On, monday and THEN i watched two other, games
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  Speaker 5: so it wasn't too.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Bad eight you watched eight softball?
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Game, yep. YEP i went to a splash. PAD i
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  Speaker 5: it mostly?
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• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Enjoyable, okay there are some aspects of it that are,
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: frustrating BUT i love getting to Watch palmer The great,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: play so that makes it all worth. It, okay all, Right,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: yeah it's fun and and the and the part that's
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: not enjoyable isn't LIKE i don't like watching these kids play.
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  Speaker 4: Softball it's not.
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  Speaker 5: That it's JUST i, mean there's just frustrations about being
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: a sports parent sometimes and your packing. THINGS i mean you're,
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  Speaker 5: carrying like just lugging. Things we had the dog with,
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  Speaker 5: Us bunker was with, us and you're trying to keep
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  Speaker 5: the dog cool in eighty degrees and we're all out
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: in the sun and the kid's, cool and you, know
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: there's just a lot to.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Manage a lot of plate, spinning a.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Lot of plate.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: Spinning, yeah and you're living in a, hotel, right so
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  Speaker 5: you're lugging everything in and, out in and out every.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Day but that's all, Right it was worth.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: It it was our last tournament of the year For, Select,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: okay so we're done With select now we're just On
• 43:28
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• 43:32
  Speaker 5: league's two games a. Week so, yeah so last WEEK
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: i had.
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  Speaker 2: That's your last weekend of having to commit yourself.
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  Speaker 4: To Correct, okay, yeah Until select starts up. Again yeah, yeah, WELL.
• 43:43
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• 43:45
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  Speaker 2: Twelve, well you know, what sometimes lust.
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• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Case but my, mom uh well she ended up having.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Seven but when we grew, up six, kids and so
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: by the time she.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Got to the fifth AND i played a lot of. Ball,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: yeah like she was burned.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Out, YEAH i. Bet it was pretty much just my
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: dad AND i going to. Games and then my brother
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: was very. Supportive my older brother has always been very.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Supportive he came to a lot of games because he
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: still lived in the area at the. Time and when
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: he lived, THERE i, mean he showed up and he
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: came to, watch and he enjoyed. Watching we were always really. Good,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: yeah but he would admit to, me, damn sometimes it's.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Impossible why do they last so? Long, yeah that's the.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Thing and when you get like a picture who can't
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: quite locate and then they're just walking. Everybody and in
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: this tournament it's a seven run limit in EACH inny most,
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: tournament most games it's a five.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Run that two runs really makes a difference when you're.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Like oh my, god please get the sixth and seventh
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  Speaker 5: run right now so we can move on to the next.
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  Speaker 5: Inning this is killing, me, slowly sucking the life out of.
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• 45:05
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• 45:10
  Speaker 5: yeah will. Not He we broke him over the. Weekend
• 45:12
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• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Tired yeah that. Happens, YEAH i. Know i'm tired all
• 45:18
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• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Too it's the same thing that happens to me all the.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Time wipes me.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Out i'm just, like oh my, gosh give, me please
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: stop showering me with.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Affection all, right coming up, next our big topic of the,
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