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Hostages Freed, Hamas Returns, Nobel Hypocrisy & China’s Power Play | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: A lot of them. Hold of the miles of lead them,
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  Speaker 1: last little celebs and the individual lots. This is the show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, everybody, welcome to your one bookshow on this Monday,
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  Speaker 1: October thirteenth. We had a problem with video a minute ago.
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  Speaker 1: We started the computer. It looks like it's okay. Now
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  Speaker 2: Go.
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  Speaker 1: Let everybody know that we're on now that they didn't
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  Speaker 1: miss anything, to come and join us. Today is the day,
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  Speaker 1: October thirteenth. Today is the day that hostages were released
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  Speaker 1: in Israel. Twenty male hostages. These are the last living
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  Speaker 1: hostages were released. So it is very much a joyous
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  Speaker 1: day in Israel, a day of celebration. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you got to watch the videos, but the videos
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  Speaker 1: were were incredibly emotional. Uh. You know, these hostages are
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  Speaker 1: being in inhumane conditions, just unbelievably evil, horrible conditions for
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  Speaker 1: two years now. They've been tortured. They they they've not
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  Speaker 1: known if they'll have food, they've they've they have not
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  Speaker 1: known if they would survive and they would live, and
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  Speaker 1: they were finally released today as part of the agreement.
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  Speaker 1: The agreement between the isel Hamas Arab States and the
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  Speaker 1: United States around around uh these uh, these hostages. So first,
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  Speaker 1: congratulations to all everybody who's been who is a hostage
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  Speaker 1: and who's free now, I mean, uh, it's yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean a huge amount of sympathy. My nephew's best friend
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  Speaker 1: was probably was among those released today. Uh, and nobody,
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  Speaker 1: there's no family in Israel there was not touched by
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  Speaker 1: the hostage situation, whether these twenty or the overall two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty that were taken.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, there's still twenty bodies.
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  Speaker 1: I think four of them were released, but there's still
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  Speaker 1: many bodies that have not been released, and families are
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  Speaker 1: still hopeful to get the bodies that they loved ones
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  Speaker 1: and be able to bury them properly.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, just think of the horror of what
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  Speaker 3: it must be.
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  Speaker 1: Like as a parent to have your child health hostage
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  Speaker 1: for two years, not knowing if you'll ever see them,
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  Speaker 1: knowing the pain and anguish that they are going through,
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  Speaker 1: living with that every day, and being completely helpless and
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  Speaker 1: not being able to help them. So yeah, this reunion
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  Speaker 1: is incredibly joyous and should be celebrated, and it is
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  Speaker 1: a good thing. And so yeah, I mean that is good.
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  Speaker 1: It's also you have to add, this is also the
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  Speaker 1: only really card that Hamas had to prevent Israel from
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  Speaker 1: completely annihilating them and completely destroying them. Israel was hands
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  Speaker 1: were tied because it did not it did not want
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  Speaker 1: to put a danger these hostages. So for example, there's
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  Speaker 1: still miles, dozens of miles of tunnels in Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: The Hamas has used that Hamas was hiding.
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  Speaker 1: UH and Israel was not bombing those tunnels, was not
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  Speaker 1: destroying those tunnels out of fear that the hostages were
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  Speaker 1: being kept in sight of them. Indeed, I think Israeli
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  Speaker 1: intelligence knew mostly where the hostages were actually being kept,
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  Speaker 1: and it was fear of harm to them that prevented
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  Speaker 1: Israeli forces from going to certain places, bombing certain locations
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  Speaker 1: and destroying Hamas infrastructure. Now that's gone, is well, has
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  Speaker 1: UH has no limitations and what it can do. The
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  Speaker 1: only limitation of course now is is is the United States.
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  Speaker 1: That is, it's the deal that Israel signed U that
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  Speaker 1: is going to be restrictive in terms of what it
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  Speaker 1: can do and and what it what it ultimately will do.
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  Speaker 1: So UH, you know, Israel should UH should go in
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  Speaker 1: UH tomorrow and and finish finish the job and clean
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  Speaker 1: it up, and start with their massive bombing campaign to
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  Speaker 1: destroy every piece of infrastructure that the Ramas has to destroy,
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  Speaker 1: and particularly the tunnels and every tunny entry, every tunnel
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  Speaker 1: entry point that Israel knows of, should be immediately destroyed.
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  Speaker 1: And then once it's much more safer to enter Gaza,
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  Speaker 1: have the ground troops answer, because at that point Ramas
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  Speaker 1: won't be able to hide in the tunnels. That won't
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  Speaker 1: happen tomorrow, because Israel has made a deal, and that
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  Speaker 1: deal there supposed tonnounce start negotiating with Hamas about disarming
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  Speaker 1: Haramas and about I don't know, an international peace keeping
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  Speaker 1: force and about some board of peace that Trump is
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  Speaker 1: going to be chairman of that board, and so Israel
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  Speaker 1: will be is going to be now in negotiations they
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  Speaker 1: will you know, I want assumes at some point Hamas
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  Speaker 1: won't disarm, won't leave, and is All will have to act.
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  Speaker 1: And then the question is will the United States give
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  Speaker 1: it a green light to act or not? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Trump has been more pro as well to
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  Speaker 1: date than I expected, not as pro as well as
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  Speaker 1: I would like, but more pro Israel than I expected.
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  Speaker 1: Will he continue to be so, even even now that
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  Speaker 1: he's basically declared peace the greatest peace in the Middle
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  Speaker 1: East for three thousand years, is he willing to allow
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  Speaker 1: Israel to go back into war when necessary. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: alternative is the Israel deals with Hamas and Gaza the
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  Speaker 1: same way is dealing with Risbellah in Lebanon.
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  Speaker 3: There is a ceasefire deal in Lebanon.
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  Speaker 1: Part of that deal excludes Hisrisbellah from trying to re
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  Speaker 1: establish positions in southern Lebanon. And what happens is that
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  Speaker 1: every time he as well identifies an effort by Hissbella
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  Speaker 1: to do anything in the south of Lebanon, they go in.
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  Speaker 1: They from the air destroy that capability, whether it is
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  Speaker 1: killing Chrisbella leadership in southern Lebanon or whether it's destroying
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  Speaker 1: Just the other day, two days ago, they destroyed tens
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  Speaker 1: of millions of dollars of earth moving equipment because they
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  Speaker 1: argued that earth moving equipment was being us use. But
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  Speaker 1: Isbela to rebuilds its tunnels, its bases in southern eleventh
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  Speaker 1: then they just destroyed all this equipment. So Israel is
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  Speaker 1: basically in Lebanon on the position of you know, status quo.
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  Speaker 1: But if you deviate from the status quote, we bomb
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  Speaker 1: you and uh, and it could very well be that
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  Speaker 1: that would be Israel's position with the God to Gauza.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to stay in fifty three percent of the
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  Speaker 1: Gaza strip, which is what they have occupation over right now,
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  Speaker 1: and any form of aggression, any indication of Ramas is
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  Speaker 1: re arming itself, we will bomb you. We won't come in,
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  Speaker 1: we won't go in. We will bomb you. We're not
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  Speaker 1: going to try to destroy all the tunnels, but we
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  Speaker 1: will bomb any attempt to advance. This of course is
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  Speaker 1: not ideal because it is not involved the complete and
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  Speaker 1: out of destruction of Haramas, but it will provide as
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  Speaker 1: what was security, and it will provide is Off security
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  Speaker 1: for probably for many, many many years to come. So
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  Speaker 1: we probably won't get my outcome, although who knows, But
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  Speaker 1: then that to be true from the beginning, you know
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  Speaker 1: that might preferred outcome is is one that is not
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  Speaker 1: being embraced by Israel or by the United States.
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  Speaker 3: But I think Israel overall, now that the.
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  Speaker 1: Hostages have returned, isn't a much much much better strategic position.
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  Speaker 1: It is also in a much much better, you know,
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  Speaker 1: defense position. That is the think about it. The threats
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  Speaker 1: to Israel have been diminished dramatically. Israel is in a
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  Speaker 1: far better position right now, even with the release of
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  Speaker 1: all the all the terrorists that it released today. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that in a minute. It is basically, you know,
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  Speaker 1: eliminated for now at least the threat that Risbelah poses.
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  Speaker 3: And people forget.
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  Speaker 1: Just a year and a half ago, Risbelah posed the largest,
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  Speaker 1: most significant existential threat to Israel. It had tens of
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  Speaker 1: thousands of missiles that could be deployed very very quickly
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  Speaker 1: and launched into Israel, particularly into northern Israel. And yet
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  Speaker 1: Israel has destroyed that capability, destroyed the entire military leadership,
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  Speaker 1: and destroyed that capability to launched those missiles.
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  Speaker 3: Many of the missiles are gone, don't exist.
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  Speaker 1: And it has not the capability of identifying any movement
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  Speaker 1: of those missiles, and it is willing to deploy its
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  Speaker 1: a folk in order to deal with that. So Risbela
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  Speaker 1: in the North has been I wouldn't say eradicated. It's
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  Speaker 1: still there. It's still a threat, and if Israel lowers
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  Speaker 1: its god even a little bit, it willways erect itself.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a diminished threat.
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  Speaker 3: One of the reasons it's diminished is that it's.
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  Speaker 1: Prout from Iran to Lebanon is basically gone. An even
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  Speaker 1: and a half ago, you could get in a car
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  Speaker 1: in Tehran and drive to Beirut, and you could drive
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  Speaker 1: delivering any form of weapons, system, money, anything like that
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  Speaker 1: to the Risbella. Today, Lebanon, the Lebanese government, the Libanese
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  Speaker 1: army is hostile to Risbelan, hostile to people helping Risbella.
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  Speaker 1: But much more important is Syria has fallen. Syria is
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  Speaker 1: now under the leadership of a government hostile to Iran,
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  Speaker 1: hostile to the Shiites, hostile to Risabella. They've kicked out
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  Speaker 1: all the Iranian affiliated groups from Syria Israel at the
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  Speaker 1: same time as basically eliminated any military capabilities this new
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  Speaker 1: Syrian regime has. They're gone, and therefore there is no
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  Speaker 1: way to deliver material, to deliver weapons, to deliver stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can still smuggle it, but there's no big,
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  Speaker 1: easy highway to deliver all this stuff to Rizabelah. So
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  Speaker 1: Isabella's losses are losses. They're gone. Of course, the Twelve
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  Speaker 1: Day War with Yon basically showed you on to be
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  Speaker 1: a paper Tiger. It also showed you on you Wan
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  Speaker 1: to be incapable of matching Israel militarily. It showed Iran
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  Speaker 1: on the precipice of failure. Israel has basically eliminated much
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  Speaker 1: of the ballistic missile threat that Iran posed. The Russians
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  Speaker 1: in the Chinese might resurrect that threat, and together with
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  Speaker 1: the United States, eliminated much of the nuclear program at
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  Speaker 1: least for months, if not years. So Uran is no
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  Speaker 1: longer the threat to Israel, not in the short to
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  Speaker 1: medium term.
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  Speaker 3: And even you know, even the Iranians.
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  Speaker 1: Uranian forces in Iraq have been dwindled and have a
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  Speaker 1: lot less impact. The uties in Yemen have been weakened
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  Speaker 1: dramatically and have far less capabilities than they used to.
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  Speaker 1: It's much more difficult for them to get arms from
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  Speaker 1: the Iranians. The Iranians now, of course, have a lot
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  Speaker 1: less money and a lot less capabilities to provide them.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, Hamas itself, Hamas is a shadow of its
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  Speaker 1: old self. It used to have thousands, if not tens
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  Speaker 1: of thousands of missiles that they could deploy against Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Those stockpiles are all almost all of them. Once in
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  Speaker 1: a while you find a missile here. They're being destroyed.
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  Speaker 1: They had offensive weapons that do not exist anymore. Tens
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  Speaker 1: of thousands of their fighters are being killed. The Gazan
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  Speaker 1: population itself is less and enthusiastic about them. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that in a minute. Hamas is just much much
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  Speaker 1: weaka and it only controls forty seven percent of Gaza,
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  Speaker 1: and Israel controls all the strategic locations, primarily the most
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  Speaker 1: important strategic location, that is the border with Egypt, where
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  Speaker 1: almost all the weapons were smuggled in from. Hamas is
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  Speaker 1: not going to be getting money from Katau or from
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  Speaker 1: Yran anytime soon. The Israeli government is not going to
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  Speaker 1: allow that. It's dramatically night and day weakened from where
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  Speaker 1: it was. So we really do have a situation where
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  Speaker 1: Israel today is dramatically stronger strategically and militarily than it
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  Speaker 1: was October sixth, twenty twenty three. It is safer. It
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  Speaker 1: is probably the safest Israel has been, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: in a very very long time, maybe since the nineteen eighties.
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  Speaker 1: The threats that still exist, of course, are terrorist threats,
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  Speaker 1: which will continue py mearly from the West Bank, where
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  Speaker 1: they still have access into Israel. But that's about it.
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  Speaker 1: That's about it. You know, there were text exchanges between
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  Speaker 1: people in Gaza and people in the West Bank, and
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  Speaker 1: the people in the West Bank were angry with the
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  Speaker 1: people in Gaza. How could you let the hostages go?
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  Speaker 3: Why did you release them?
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  Speaker 1: It was the only card you had. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: You're betraying the Palestinian cause.
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  Speaker 1: Just to give you a sense of how, you know,
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  Speaker 1: pro peace the Palestinians in the West Bank are and
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  Speaker 1: the Gazans basically applied to them. You take hostages. We've
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  Speaker 1: suffered enough for these hostages. You take them. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that is reality. The reality is today that the biggest
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  Speaker 1: threat to Israel right now, the biggest threat to Israeli's
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  Speaker 1: right now is the risk of hostage taking in Israel
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  Speaker 1: in the West Bank. But anyway, you know, in Venezuela,
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  Speaker 1: anyway where where the local government would facilitate you hiding.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so certain places at Latin America, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe certain places in Asia. I don't know. There are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of places where this is true. But hostage
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  Speaker 1: taking has been the most productive thing the Palestinians have
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  Speaker 1: done for their cause, if you will, And the reason
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  Speaker 1: for that is that while twenty Israeli hostages will released today,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty murderers were released from Israeli prisons,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty terrorists and seventeen hundred Guzans who
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  Speaker 1: had been arrested during the war, probably members of Hamas,
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  Speaker 1: probably you know, people engaged in hostile activities towards Israel,
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  Speaker 1: so members of ROSS. So we're talking about two thousand
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  Speaker 1: people released, two thousand terrorists released in exchange for twenty
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  Speaker 1: live Israelis and twenty eight bodies. We'll see if the
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  Speaker 1: bodies actually ultimately get released. That is a heavy cost
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  Speaker 1: and one that I think Israel needs to remedy. Israel
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  Speaker 1: needs to change its policy. The policy needs to go
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  Speaker 1: back to the old days of entebe in the nineteen seventies,
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  Speaker 1: where Israel basically policy was, we do not negotiate with terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where, it doesn't matter how bad they are,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who they're threatening. We do not negotiate
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  Speaker 1: with terrorists. Now that commitment is long past. I mean, really,
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  Speaker 1: once you negotiated a deal with Yes or our fat
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  Speaker 1: at Oslo, you can't claim them all the high ground off. No,
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  Speaker 1: not negotiating with terrorists anymore. You just negotiated with an
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  Speaker 1: arch terrorist a peace deal. And of course Israel's negotiate
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  Speaker 1: with hamas negotiate with a PLO over and over and
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  Speaker 1: over again over the years, is slamming jihad. Israel needs
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  Speaker 1: to rediscover the principle we don't negotiate with terrorists. That
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  Speaker 1: would mean you do not release prisoners in order to
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  Speaker 1: get hostages. You engage in military operations to try to
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  Speaker 1: free the hostages, the risks that they could be killed,
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  Speaker 1: but you do not. You do not engage in negotiations.
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  Speaker 1: You do not release terrorists in order to get your
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  Speaker 1: people back. Now, that's going to be very difficult for
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  Speaker 1: as weel, given the history of releasing terrorists, the two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty terrorists, wall murderers blood in their hands,
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  Speaker 1: who had been you know, found guilty in a court
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  Speaker 1: of law. I think, in order not to succumb in
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  Speaker 1: the future to the temptation of releasing murderers, I think
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  Speaker 1: Israel needs to institute a death penalty for terrorists and
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  Speaker 1: needs to execute them, catch them, put them on trial,
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  Speaker 1: and if they're found guilty beyond a reasonable beyond reasonable doubt,
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  Speaker 1: hang them. Shoot them, let you chair them whatever, but
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  Speaker 1: kill them, and therefore they cannot at that point become
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  Speaker 1: pawns in an exchange. That is one of the things
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  Speaker 1: they can do to relieve the pressure. The other is
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  Speaker 1: is to have a commitment and maybe even pass legislation
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  Speaker 1: committing Israel never to releasing terrorists again in exchange for hostages.
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  Speaker 1: So will pay a price for this. Have no doubt
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  Speaker 1: that Israel in the future they will be hostages taken.
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  Speaker 1: They will pay a price for this, uh, and they
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  Speaker 1: will be a reckoning. But overall, you have to recognize,
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  Speaker 1: even if this is the end of the war, that
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  Speaker 1: Israel today is in a far far, far better situation
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  Speaker 1: than it was two years ago, that Israel today is
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  Speaker 1: more secure, uh and strong than it ever has been. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of countries in Europe that don't
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  Speaker 1: like Israel right now, but that will pass. You know,
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  Speaker 1: winners are forgiven, and you know one is not politically
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  Speaker 1: expedient to throw Israel under the bus because it's not
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  Speaker 1: a hot issue anymore. These governments will forget about these issues.
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  Speaker 1: The bigger issue and the bigger challenge is primarily outside
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  Speaker 1: of Israel, and that is the issue, and the challenge
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  Speaker 1: that Western countries face. What do you do with this
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  Speaker 1: pro Islamist, pro Hamas, pro anti Western civilization, viciously anti
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  Speaker 1: Western civilization movement culture that exists out there among so
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  Speaker 1: many young people, put aside the Muslims, so many young
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  Speaker 1: people in the in the West, and and and that
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  Speaker 1: that is a real reckoning because right now that is
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  Speaker 1: expressed through Pope Palestinian Pouhamas anti West demonstrations and activism
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  Speaker 1: so on. But five years from now it'll be expressed
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  Speaker 1: in a different way, or even three months from now,
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  Speaker 1: it might be expressed in a different way. The reality is,
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  Speaker 1: the shocking, disgusting, horrific, sad reality is that we are
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  Speaker 1: educating millions of young Westerners, Americans, Europeans to be to
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  Speaker 1: hate their own civilization, to hate their own countries, to
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  Speaker 1: hate the West. We are educating them to become nihilists.
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  Speaker 1: And that cannot end well, I cannot end Uh cannot
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  Speaker 1: end well. So uh yeah, this is uh, this is
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  Speaker 1: a situation on you face. And and that is the
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  Speaker 1: challenge of dealing with with all those kids. That is
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  Speaker 1: the real challenge. And it's in educational institutions, and there's
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  Speaker 1: no quick, easy remedy for this.
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  Speaker 3: There's no shortcuts. There's no easy way to deal with this.
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  Speaker 4: Mhm h.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what else did I want to Uh? What
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  Speaker 1: else did I want to say? Yeah, so again, I'll
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  Speaker 1: end this segment just by congratulating the families and the
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  Speaker 1: and the the released hostages and their families. Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: did want to say this. Yeah. Dave Smith, you know
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  Speaker 1: know Dave Smith, the the comedian who thinks he knows
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  Speaker 1: something about the Middle East and who goes around uh debating, uh,
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  Speaker 1: debating everybody on the Middle East, as if he's some
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  Speaker 1: kind of expert. Uh. He is a nihilist who has
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  Speaker 1: motivated by by hatred and I think ignorance and being
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  Speaker 1: an advocate of a of a pseudo historian uh Scott
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  Speaker 1: Thornton and and and and basically committed to an anti
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  Speaker 1: anti Israeli, anti really Western civilization position as to some
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  Speaker 1: extent all anarchists saw. But but his is particularly vicious, nasty,
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  Speaker 1: disgusting and hullable and which is what he is and
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  Speaker 1: and and.
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  Speaker 3: Today uh, he reaffirmed.
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  Speaker 1: His model equivocation, the fact that he is a a
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  Speaker 1: hack uh and and just a disgusting, just generally a
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  Speaker 1: discussing human being who lies and deceives and makes stuff
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  Speaker 1: up in order to advocate, in order to convince himself,
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  Speaker 1: maybe to rationalize his own irrational, anti Western, disgusting positions.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: This is what he wrote. It's great that the ceasefire
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: has held for a few days and hostage swaps are
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: taking place here. Dave Smith is equating twenty young men
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: who were taking hostage. Maybe these all maybe you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: he can pretend that they're all soldiers, but they're not.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Some of them are not soldiers. Some of them were
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: taking a nova at the music festival, just out there partying.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Now in Israel, everybody, every male.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Is a soldier, so you could argue that, but taking
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: hostage after, by the way, watching these monsters slaughter and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: butcher and rape and torture their friends and then having
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to be in horrific conditions for four hundred and something,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you know, enough for four hundred and something, seven hundred
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: for over two years, and he is treating them as
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the same hostage swap as murdering terrorists, some human beings
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: who planned and executed for others, obviously because they're still alive,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: suicide bombings in Israel, who did shooting attacks on Israeli
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: civilians who murdered Israeli's left and right. They were all hostages.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Israel doesn't have a system of justice that actually tried them,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: prosecuted them, put them in jail. Oh no, and jails
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and of course not the same as tunnels. I mean,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: he equivocates between the two, and then he says, oh no, no.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: What I meant was the seventeen hundred people, seventeen hundred
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: people who were taking by the idea of almost all
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of them Hamas operatives who surrendered, who were captured alive,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: is Or did not torture them, they held them in detention.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: They're not hostages, the prisoners of war hostages. But this
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: is exactly the horrible moral equivocations, is exactly the irrationality
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and the hostility the Dave has anything Israeli. I mean,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: he is a real piece of work. I mean, I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: encourage you to watch the debate that he did with Coleman.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: What's his name Coleman something, Yeah, I mean, but all
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: his debates, Dave is just a dishonest hack, a dishonest hack.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: So yes, I just wanted to mention that, uh, Coleman
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Hughes thank you, colemen Hughes I lost. It was very
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: good who did a really good job, and State stayed
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: surprisingly calm, much calmer than I could have stayed with
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: with a you know, lying uh nihilist like Dave Smith. Uh.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: So I want to say something about Hamas as well.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: So Hamas has come out of the tunnels amazing. Right
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: throughout the war, Hamas is a civilian clothes, they hide
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: their weapons, they sneak in and out. They're in the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: You can't differentiate them from the civilian population, or very
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: difficult to. As soon as there's a cease fire, they
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: put on their uniforms, they take out their guns and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: they start patrolling the streets because they know they're safe.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Haramas has been out in the streets the last couple
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of days, and of course what is its first first
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: overder business. It's to go after anybody who expressed any
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: criticism of Ramas itself. They're out in the street executing people.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It's on video, it's available. Ramas is executing dozens of people.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: There are certain families tribes within Gaza who are being
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: vocal about their anti Ramas sentiments. They mean tribes that
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: have tried to keep the food and not allowed the.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Food to go into Ramasa's hands.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Haramas today went into those neighborhoods, went into the family homes,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: killed everybody, men, women, children. There's a massive amount of
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: murdering going on right now in the Gaza strip Gozans
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: killing Gozans, muslim killing Muslims, Palestinians killing Palestinians, Ramas killing
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: everybody they think might be an opposition to their rule.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: This is not a group that is ready to disarm.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: This is not a group ready to give up control
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of Gaza. This is not a group that is ready
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to actually abide by the peace deal. The murdering thugs,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the monsters, and they should be destroyed completely and thoroughly. Anyway,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: One interesting phenomena is nobody is out demonstrating against the
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: killing Palestinians.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Nobody's out there demonstrating.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Against Tramas in favor of the poor Palestinians whore being
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: slaughtered by them. You know, a lot of Western You're
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: just to give you another sense of the craziness. A
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: lot of Western UH channels, media outlets are being showing
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: videos of gouzens.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Celebrating the ceasefire, and they've been doing it as.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Look, the Gouslins are celebrating peace, and what they're not
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: translating for you is what the Gosens are yelling as
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: they celebrate. What they're not translating for you is the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: fact that the Goarsens are yelling Proramas slogans that they're
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: talking about being eager to assume hostile actions against Israel
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: from repeating October seventh many many times. These are the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: gardens who were supposedly being genocided, and these are the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Garzins who supposedly were starving.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: They all look pretty healthy, by the way in the videos.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: All they can do now.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: That they have a little bit of freedom that Israeli
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Israeli forces backed off a little bit is declare the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: commitment to killing more Israelis, to killing Morjews. This is
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: why this is always a war against the Palestinians, not
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: just a war against Ramas. So Ramas has resurfaced, it
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: is reasserted trying to reassert its control over the whole
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Gozzos strip is doing so by murdering anybody who they
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: believe might be in opposition to them, anybody who might
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: be part of an opposition. And there's a lot of
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: bloodshed right now in Gaza, and it does not involve Israelis.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: And because it does not involve Israelis, because it does
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: not involve Jews killing Arabs, the world doesn't give a damn,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: does not give a damn.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: All right, all right, that is it for for talking
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: about Israel in Ramas unless you have questions, and of
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: course I will take any.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Questions you have, so feel free to jump in a right, Yeah,
• 33:01
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• 33:04
  Speaker 1: because of a feeling, we can go long today. But yeah,
• 33:08
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• 33:12
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• 33:16
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• 33:20
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• 33:23
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• 33:26
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• 33:30
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• 33:33
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• 33:39
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• 33:41
  Speaker 3: A couple of Nobel prizes that I think.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I don't comment on the Noble Prizes on physics and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: biology and chemistry because I don't know anything about those fields.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: But I can comment on Noble Prizes of Peace, and
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I can comment on the Noble Prize for Economics because
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I know something about those. Let's start with an Obo
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: price a piece. The woman got it, you know in Venezuela,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: commented in this last week, is worthy. I mean, she
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: is a real fighter for freedom, a fighter against an
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: oppressive regime in Venezuela. She risks her life almost daily
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to try to bring a change to Venezuela. She's also
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: surprisingly willing to name socialism as the cause of Venezuela's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: problems and to go after not after Maduro, not only
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: after Maduro in his current incarnation, but to go after Chavez,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the person who started all of this. She talks about
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the fact that Chavez inspired young people, and young people
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: supported him because he is probably them through socialism, but
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: that he that socialism involved in Venezuela, and socialism evolves everywhere.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And when people said at the time, yeah, but socialism
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: is bad, look at Cuba, Chaves said what every socialist
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: has been trained to say forever. Chaves said, oh no, no, no,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: that's not real communism in Cuba. Will do real com
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: real socialism in Venezuela. Well, they did real socialism in
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Venezuela and the results exactly the same, poverty, destruction, hunger, collapses,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the economy. Remember, Venezuela sits on the largest oil reserves
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: in the world, larger than Saudi Arabia's. They can't get
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: anything out of the ground because they don't have the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: technological capacity to do it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Socialism.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: So she is definitely worthy, and you know, I think
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: said she she deserves our congratulations. Maria Karina Machado. She's
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a real fighter for freedom. Venezuela is a horrific place,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: horrible place, and you know, he's a real courageous woman
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that knows the evils of socialism and is willing to
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: fight it. I wish, I wish all Nobel Peace Prizes
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: went to such worthy candidates. Nobel Peace Prizes are usually
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: a joke and having jokes in the past, but this
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: is an example of somebody worthy getting such a prize.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Surprisingly today, uh, three people got the Nobel Prize for Economics.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And while I'm not in a position to tell you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: these are the most worthy people in the world out
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: there to get it, I don't think that's true. They
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: are worthy, certainly, the one of them who I know
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: his work is worthy. This, This is a good prize,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: This is a good selection. The committee granted the prize
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to economists working on the question of the relationship between
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: innovation and economic growth, and the conditions under which innovation
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: is successful, and that it leads to the kind of
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: economic growth that we see in the West, what drives that?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Receiving the price of Joe here, and I'm probably butchering
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: his name, who is a very good economic historian. I
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: have at least a couple of his books in the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: bookshelf behind me. Philip at Geon uh and Peter Howard Uh.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Joe Mokira is at Northwestern University, Philip is at the
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: College de Fontain instead, I know it's that at the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: London School of Economics, and Peter Howard is at Brown University.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit about their work, particularly.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Uh Mokia's work, which I think is is particularly good. Uh.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: And again whose whose books I've read and and I
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: think have inspired me. Let me just give me one second,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: because I had an article prepared here before I restarted
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the computer for this. Uh, So let me just find
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: it one second before I go into it completely O God,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: where is this? Maybe I didn't have to prepare all right?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Uh I, yep, here it is. I mean, there's a
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: good article today written by Brian Albert, who's a free
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: market economist who's quite good about them, and and uh
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: so I thought I thought i'd read a little bit
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: about you know what he says and and and he
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: here's something he says that I agree with. Says, the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: biggest question in economics is the hockey stick. For most
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: of human history, living standard barely budged.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: There's something shifted. We got the hockey stick, that.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Is the massive increase in economic g with Why did
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: this happen? When did it happen? What made it possible?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's absolutely right. This is the
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: most important biggest question in economics. I would say broader
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: than that, it's the most important question in the humanities.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, the human condition got dramatically better, dramatically not
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit why. Most people have no clue. And
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: yet if we want to preserve the good state of
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: humanity from material perspective, we should understand how it actually happened. Now,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Markia gives a theoretical, historically explanation for this.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I think it's incomplete, but it's pretty good.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: And then Adjeon and Howard actually have created a model,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: mathematical model in economics, I know, but you know, some
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: models are better than others. That shows how innovation actually
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: drives growth when the kind of conditions that market describes
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: a met So they actually mathematized the work, and most
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: most economic models today that look at growth look at
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: growth are economic models that are.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Based on and reference the model that they created. So
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: good for them. They created the model nineteen ninety two,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: and good for them.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I've left to say about them because I don't do
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: mathematical economics, so I'm not that familiar with the models.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: But I trust Albrecht in saying that, yeah, the work
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: is good. It's a good foundation if if not you know,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the complete the complete set. All right. Uh so let's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: talk about markiam because I I encourage you to look
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: at his books. Uh you know, let me, I should
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: look in the back and see. Let me. Let me
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: do this. I'm gonna pull up a list of his
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: books and tell you which ones I recommend, Which ones
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I recommend because I think they're worth reading if you're
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: interested in this question, which I think I think everybody
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: should be interested in It's it's an important question what
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: led to the incredible success?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: And there are a number of people who've written good,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: interesting things.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Dido McCluskey has done a lot of good work on this, but.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: So is Mark here. Uh books, Oh god, what the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: hell is going on? All right? There we go?
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the culture A culture of growth.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Is my favorite. You know, I I encourage you to
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: check it out. It's called a a culture of growth,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the origins of of the modern economy. Chalk to growth,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the origins of a modern economy. And then uh, he's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: got a book on the Enlightenment economy. Uh, the economy
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: during the Enlightenment. It came out of the Enlightenment. Generally,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: his thesis is that came out of the Enlightenment and
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the Enlightenment was crucial. He's got he's got a book
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: on the British Industrial Revolution. Uh so Uh yeah, I
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: mean a book called the The Gifts of Athena. Uh.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: This is a really he's a good intellectual. He's one
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: of the good guys out there with actually uh checking out. Basically,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: what he does is he's thinking about, Okay, how does
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: innovation lead to growth? What are the steps that need
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: to happen. And what he shows is that two types.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: He thinks about this in terms of two types of knowledge.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: One type of knowledge, let's call it theoretical knowledge. It's
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: a knowledge of the of the of the of the scientist,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the theoretical basis. And a second type of knowledge is
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the knowledge of call it the practical knowledge. At that
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: pride level, he calls it prospective knowledge. Propositional knowledge is
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: what he calls the more theoretical and abstract. So this
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: is where the the tool maker, the tinkra is constantly
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: improving his machine or his tools or whatever it is
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: that he's doing. Right, So you've got theoretical knowledge up here,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: and he've got and fo and you've got the the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: the practical knowledge down here. And he says, really, forever
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: in human history those two are separate. They didn't address
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: one another. There was no relationship with to one one
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: to the other. He says. What makes the Enlightenment, the
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: scientific revolution, and then the industrial evolution unique.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Is for the first time in history these two were integrated.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Scientific knowledge was taken and then used in order to
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: develop practical tools to enhance the tool making, the machine
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: making and and and this is absolutely true, right and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I Man talks about this, She talks about the creation
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: of the businessman, and what does the businessman do? Call
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: it the entrepreneur in our more modern Languge, it's what
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: does the entrepreneur do. He takes the theoretical knowledge and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: he applies it to a practical problem. It creates a
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: business around it. And this is what makes the industry
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: revolution the industry revolution. Now, I don't think that's the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: whole story, and you still need some other pieces in
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the chain of causality. But that's good.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: And of course what is necessary for that to happen, Well,
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: a sudden intellectual culture needs to exist, a culture of ideas,
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: a culture of debate, a culture of discussion.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: So here's here's again, Brian, how about writing about this
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: from the perspective of what happened before, right before the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: industry revolution. In that world, innovation was hit or miss
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: and really cumulative, many supposed breakthroughs.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: With dead ends.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, he gives us an example of Leonardo da Vinci,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: who had all these innovations. They never went anyway. Nobody
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: ever read his stuff, He didn't communicate it with anybody.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: It was a dead end a lot of his discoveries
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: in mathematics.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: It took two hundred years before other people discovered it,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: and another one hundred years before people look back and say.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, Leonardo had discovered this way back that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: There was no communication, He writes, The industrial evolution became
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: a two turning point only when propositional and perspective knowledge
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: started reinforcing each other.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: This tightening feedback loop is what.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Made growth sustained rather than one off in earlier eras,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: a brilliant invention might boost productivity temporarily, but without scientific
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: foundation to build upon, the advance eventually stalled. But here's
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: where it gets interesting. But Markia doesn't. But Monkia goes deeper.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Why did this feedback loop start in Europe around seventeen hundred.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: His answer is institutional the Republic of Letters. And I
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: don't know how many of you are familiar with the
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Republic of Letters, but.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I've talked about it a little bit on past shows.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: But the Republic of Letters was basically this informal network
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: of Europe's intellectuals, primarily and America, for example, Franklin participated actively.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: The Republic of Letters was basically hundreds, maybe a few
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: thousand intellectuals writing to each other, critiquing each other's work.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Ultimately this led to the publication of journals and books,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: but it was letter writing and letter writing.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Voltaire wrote thousands of letters.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to Brian. This was an early modern
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: pan European market for ideas, low barriers to anti peer criticism,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: prizes and journals for sharing discoveries, competition between scholars across
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: different countries.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: And then the other thing is political disintegration.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: So he says, if one Mark Monarch shut down your research,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: you could move somewhere else and keep working.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: So MARKI talked about the Republic of Letters.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: It was a europe wide network where intellectual shared ideas,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: tested theories, and developed standards for what counted as good science.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Voltaire didn't just correspond with people in Paris. He exchanged
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: letters with thinkers across England, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: even the United States. It created a hierarchy based on merit,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: not social status. Bad ideas got weeded out, good ideas spread.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: This is the Enlightenment. So he's giving credit for the
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Enlightenment for creating the conditions for the creation of the industry.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Revolution is absolutely right, he writes.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: This matter is because in most societies throughout history, brilliant
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: minds worked alone. Leonardo da Vinci was a genius, but
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: he was isolated or innovators dependent on royal patronage, which
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: meant they could be silenced if they offended the wrong person.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: The Republic of the Letters solved both problems. This happened
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: first in Europe, which had a unique combination cultural unity
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: with political fragmentation. So this is all Marqia's kind of theory.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: So this is really important stuff. And I mean I
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed a culture of growth because he describes the Enlightenment,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and the Enlightenment is an amazing period of time. And
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: you know, so this is the kind of analysis philosophical intellectual.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not very deep philosophical, but at least
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: recognizing the inportance of the ideas, the importance of intellectuals,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the importance of ideas, and exchange of ideas and building
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: on ideas. This is exactly the kind of work economists
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and intellectuals should be doing. So market doing this work
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: is crucially important and you should be congratulated for it.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: And of course the Nobel Prize committee recognizing this work
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: and giving him a Nobel prize that is huge. So
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I'm really happy with his choice and really happy with
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: the fact that this is this is what happened. And uh,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: you know, the Enlightenment is a period in which intellectuals
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: marginalized Christianity. They put it to the side. They focus
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: on reason based arguments, They focus on reality, and therefore
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: they focus on facts, evidence feel intellectual pursuits, and by
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: elevating reason and as a consequence, elevating individualism, they make
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the industrial evolution possible. Now, those are not the terms
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Marcia would put it in, but his research supports that argument,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: which Isman's argument. My argument for the hockey stick. Hockey
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: stick is reason plus individualism plus political freedom. That's what
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the hockey stick is, all right, So good good nobleok
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: prizes got to give credit what creditors do, all right?
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Uh China, China, China, China. We talked about this Friday.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I think, uh you know, China has it climbed down. Restricted,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: dramatic restricted, the availability and the ability to use without
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: permission their rare earth materials and magnets that they produce.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: This really has devastating impact on potentially on many industries.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: But importantly, it has a devastating potential impact on the
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: defense industry in the United States. So many weapons systems
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: depend on rare earth materials, depend on magnets, depend on
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: the kind of products and raw materials. The China is
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: now clamping down and controlling. And while China doesn't necessarily
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: dominate the mining for these resources they are, it turns
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: out their rare earth materials pretty much everywhere, they're not
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: that rare. What China dominates is the ability to refine
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: them and produce them. Often the process of doing that
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: is pretty dirty, so environmental laws have prevented that building
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: of refining facilities factories in the United States and in Europe.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: So the United States is completely dependent for these kind
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: of materials on China. Give me a second. So China
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: dramatically increasing restrictions on their use on exports, and not
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: just exporting, but how they used, so trying to control
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: the entire supply chain after they bought from them. This
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: is a major major escalation in kind of the trade
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: war that's going on between the United States and China,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: just at a time when everybody, particularly the markets, believed
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: that the trade war was basically over that she and
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Trump had made up that they were going to meet
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks in Asia, and that, as
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Trump has promised over and over and over again since April,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a deal, a trade deal was imminent, imminent, any day now,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: there'd be a trade deal with China. Well, we've been
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: promised that over and over again. Hasn't happened, and now
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: China's escalating. Well, the markets took a real beating on Friday.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: You know, Nasdaq goes down three and a half percent,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: SMP was down more than two percent. Bitcoin was down
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: a lot, and generally it was kind of a bloodbath
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: in crypto. You know, people panicked, and people panicked not
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: so much because of what China announced, but that what
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: happened on Friday is that Trump said, as of November first,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: all talis and Chinese goods are going to one hundred
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: percent an addition, one hundred percent, so back to the
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: one thirty five that it was back in April May.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: And we're gonna have all kinds of other restrictions and
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: software on chips and all these other things. In other words,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: a dramatic escalation of trade, will market collapses or goes
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: down a lot. Trump regrets I guess having said all
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: that because he doesn't like it when the market responds
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: negatively to what he says. So over the weekend, Trump says, oh, yeah, no,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: it's not that bad.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Listen, guys, We're going to have a deal.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I promise, you know, we'll do something and we'll we'll
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: make it work, We'll make it happen, and you know, China,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: China will, China will be fine. The market today is up,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Nazex up two percent, SMP five and is one and
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: a half percent, So basically, you know, returning most, if
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: not all, the not all, but most of the losses
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: from Friday. So the market is up and down based
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: on whimsical statement by one way or the other by
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. It's it's pretty interesting the extent to which
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: the market moves on any one of these things. Not
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: clear how Trump is going to resolve these differences with China.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Not clear what exactly is going on. Not clear what
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: China did it, when it did it. Is it just
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: trying to strengthen its negotiating position going into the meeting
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: between she and Trump? Is it trying to do something else?
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Are they just stupid? Probably not in what way they're
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: being strategic. I mean, Trump has walked us into all
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: of this. He started a trade warm without really a
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: plan of how to get out of the trade war.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: He has made you know, he has made this a
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: massive issue when it didn't need to be a massive issue.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Here also through America into this trade war with China,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: before America was really prepared, before we had accumulated the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: rare earth minerals to protect ourselves from restrictions by the Chinese,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: before we had built the facilities within the United States
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: are and friendly countries to replace the Chinese supply of
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: magnets and things like that. So very I mean, a
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: real lack of strategy from Trump, which is not surprising.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: It shouldn't surprise anybody. Build lack of strategy in terms
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: of thinking through if you're going to engage, if you
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: want to separate from China, if you want to dlink
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: from China, if you want to get American manufacturers to
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: stop relying on China, you got to do it smart.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: And this is the station has not done it smart.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: And as a consequence, we're seeing this up and down craziness.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes. It's not over. Uh, They
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: haven't resolved any of this. They haven't resolved any of this,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we'll see if the the the
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: the the trade will escalate so it gets better. We'll
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: see if if Trump can kind of deal with the
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Chinese or not. We'll see how far the Chinese want
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: to go in terms of pushing the Americans. Uh and
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: uh and and and trying to get their way. So
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: the markets are going to be volatile in the next
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: few weeks until we get some kind of semblance of
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: a resolution to the China trade issue, to tariffs, to
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: trade restrictions, to the whole package. And of course there's
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: there's the soybeans in the background. So the Chinese are
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: not buying. And it appears that once the government shutdown
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: is over, Trump will do a massive bailout of American
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: farmers to compensate them for the fact that the Chinese
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: are boycotting the soybeans. Okay, I think that is the
• 1:00:21
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• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the last twenty live hostages that Ramas was keeping were released,
• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Ramas terrorists and Ramas supporters and yeah, and where oh
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't mention Donald Trump speaking in front of the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Israeli Parliament today in front of the Knesset, rambling on
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: for an hour, and.
• 1:00:53
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• 1:01:02
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• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: in the meantime, as we said, Hamas is still alive
• 1:01:10
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  Speaker 1: this a pro life argument? It applies a fetus has rights,
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  Speaker 1: and any damage you inflict on a fetus during pregnancy
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  Speaker 1: you're liable for. According to objectivism, you only have rights
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  Speaker 1: once should individuate individuated human being. You should only be
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  Speaker 1: charged with child abuse for the abuse you cause a
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  Speaker 1: child after this passed through the child canal. No, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's true. I think that's a misreading of
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  Speaker 1: the objective's position. The reality is the once the mother
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  Speaker 1: chooses to have the baby to give birth, then you
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  Speaker 1: know the behavior she exhibits towards it and the damage
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  Speaker 1: she does to it, she's liable for. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: also true, for example, that if if somebody murders a
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  Speaker 1: pregnant woman, you know, and she's a pregnant woman not
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  Speaker 1: on the way for an abortion, but a pregnant woman
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  Speaker 1: who wants the caveat to tomb, that should be taken
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  Speaker 1: into account because the woman has chosen to have the baby.
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  Speaker 1: So once you choose that and you don't change your mind,
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  Speaker 1: because in this case she's had the baby, she didn't
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  Speaker 1: have an abortion before, then you're responsible for your behavior
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: leading up to the birth and the fact that it
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  Speaker 1: was and it didn't have rights when it was a fetus.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't it has rights when it's born, and when
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  Speaker 1: it's born, it's damaged, and it's being damaged by the
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  Speaker 1: behavior somebody towards it when it didn't have rights. But
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  Speaker 1: once the choice to birther it, you take responsibility for
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing to it. You're responsible for it. So
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to think about is she intending
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  Speaker 1: to carry the baby to term or not? The fetus
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  Speaker 1: the term or not. And yeah, if she has an abortion,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what she did. She has a child,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Andrew an intellectual TV pundit. An intellectual
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  Speaker 1: TV pundit said, Israelis don't have an use not to
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  Speaker 1: know about the suffering of the Garsans, similar to regular
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  Speaker 1: Germans knowing of the Nazis atrocities. What the hell is
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: she talking about in comparing the two, Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she's comparing the two. You know, she's basically arguing that Israel,
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  Speaker 1: in defending itself, is doing the same thing, even though
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  Speaker 1: it's trying not to kill civilians and really making an
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  Speaker 1: effort as the Nazis in the concentration camps consciously killing
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  Speaker 1: because they want to whitewash the difference. It's the powerful
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  Speaker 1: over the unpowerful. That's the only thing that matters. The
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  Speaker 1: powerful killing those who don't have power, that's the only
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: thing that matters. The motivation, the actual way of doing it,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: whether there's actually killing of mass killing of civilians, all
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  Speaker 1: of that is irrelevant. It's power. It's all about power.
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  Speaker 1: That's the modern left. The modern left only cares about
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: relative power. Who has power relative to whom That's how
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  Speaker 1: you judge everything powerful of doing something, it must be bad,
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  Speaker 1: the powerful inflicting pain. Then, yeah, Nazis were powerful, is
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: what's powerful. They're both evil, They're both bad. That's the
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  Speaker 1: only way they think about these things. But that is
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: a disgusting, horrific statement that you know, whoever that TV
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: pundit is should be absolutely boycotted. Catherine. Why is there
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: so much anti Semitism from the left. Why are their
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: protests this big and Western countries against Israel full of communists?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Is this only a comment situation or did this happen
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: in the past. Very scary people. I mean, I've talked
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: about this a lot over the last few years. I mean,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: this is a direct consequence of what's being taught at universities,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: the whole what's called the WO agenda, the postcolonialism studies,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: and the intersectionality and you know, the the the identity politics.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: It's all part of the same thing.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: It's the secularization of Christian altruism and the taking of
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: altruism really, really, really seriously. And what does altruism teach us, Well,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: the virtuous, the good, are the meek, the the those
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: who are powerless, and the bad, the evil, those you
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  Speaker 1: should take from are the successful, the rich prospers. You know,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: this is in marks from each according to his ability
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  Speaker 1: to do, each according to his means. It's in the Bible,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: it's in the New Testament, it's in simonin the amount,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: and and and it's very very very very much in
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  Speaker 1: postmodern humanities courses across the board. And what this basically
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: teaches kids is if there are people who are successful,
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  Speaker 1: there's a group. Because everything's about groups, everything's about identity politics.
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  Speaker 1: If there's a group out there that is successful and
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  Speaker 1: strong and wealthy and happy, then they must be evil.
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  Speaker 1: They must be the bad guys. And Jews generally are
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: pretty successful, and Jews and Israel are very successful. Israel
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: as a country is very successful. Therefore they must be
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: the bad guys. And they're beating up on these powerless people,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: these people who don't have weapons, don't have wealtht of
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: not being successful. They must be the virtues. I did
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: a show a long time ago in intersectionality. This is
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: straight out of intersectionality. You rank people's virtue based on
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: how failed they are. The more failed, the more virtuous,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: the most successful, the more evil. And that's the modern left,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: that is that is ultimately woke ideology, and that's what
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: you're seeing. So that's what you're seeing out there. Michael says.
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  Speaker 1: Even Richard Dawkins thinks that Simon in the Mount is beautiful.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Richard Dawkins has adopted Christian morality. Richard Dawkins, you know
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: this is this is I think the main failure of
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: the new atheists is that they've all basically adopted Christianity
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  Speaker 1: as them all code and won't challenge that. So they
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: challenge Christianity and epistemological and metaphysical.
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  Speaker 3: Grounds, but not on mall grounds. And that is a
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  Speaker 3: massive mistake.
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  Speaker 1: So and we are here to fix that. Try to
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: fix it anyway, try to improve on it, all right,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: the rational I P. What do you think of horror
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and science fiction? Do they fit within objective's views on art? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think they do. I don't like horror,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: but you know, it's suddenly both horror and science fiction
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  Speaker 1: can be art. They can be great art. They can
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  Speaker 1: they can show the metaphysical value judgments of the of
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  Speaker 1: their creators, producers, makers, and I think they often do
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  Speaker 1: very well. I think science fiction is definitely art. It
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: is it's a it's an amazing canvas you can have
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  Speaker 1: with with science fiction because it basically allows you to
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  Speaker 1: create the world that that you wanna, that you put
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: characters into.
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  Speaker 3: So scientific can be romantic.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I think even horror can be romantic as long as
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: the good guys win in the end. But horror is,
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  Speaker 1: for example, a medium that can put the hero.
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  Speaker 3: Into situations and positions.
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  Speaker 1: Where they have to be erogic, they have to use reason,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: they have to use their mind in order to solve
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: problems in order to win in the end. Right, most
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: how is not very good, Most how it's awful, and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: most how is very malevolent. But that doesn't mean it's
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  Speaker 1: not art. I think there's a lot of science fiction
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  Speaker 1: that is excellent, and it absolutely conforms the Ironman's views
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  Speaker 1: on art. Some of it's romantic, some of it's naturalistic,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: some of it's good, some of its mediocre. So it's
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: bad just like in every genre. So there's nothing about
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: these genres that would exclude them from the realm of art.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, The Shining is brilliantly made, for example, it's
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  Speaker 1: a brilliantly eight horror movie. I don't like it. I
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: don't want to watch it again. It's it's got an
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: a real malevolence to it, it's got a real nastiness
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  Speaker 1: to it. So it does not reflect my sense of life,
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  Speaker 1: but that doesn't diminish its qualities.
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  Speaker 3: Qua out which I think it's probably good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and lots of good examples of science fiction aliens,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: particularly aliens. The second Aliens, the one that James Cameron made,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: is excellent, I think thematically and exciting and also a
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: horror movie, but with a real good a good theme
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: in the end. All right, we uh, yeah, I really
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  Speaker 1: only like the second one. I think all the others
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: have a darkness to them. The second one doesn't. The
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: James Cameron one doesn't. I think all the other ones
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: are a pretty my level and dark and not good,
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  Speaker 1: and heroism is undermined. The second one there's no undermining
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: the heroism, and the heroism is' she's a thinker. She's
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: a woman who looks at reality and uses her mind.
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  Speaker 1: All right, if you want to ask me about specific movies,
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  Speaker 1: Remo says, which Erasio hold your book? Do you recommit?
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  Speaker 1: I read? You know, I can't remember. I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: their names, and generally they're all very similar, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if they're ones that really stand out as
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  Speaker 1: just just just read any one of them. They're just
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  Speaker 1: Sports deal, the big it's the biggest ip i'lb o ever,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be your leveraged buyouts ever. Another Saudi and Jared
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  Speaker 1: Krishna deal. Yeah, I mean it seemed like a rich price.
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  Speaker 1: It's not clear where the where the benefits of going
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  Speaker 1: private are. But again I'm not an expert. These people
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  Speaker 1: are putting real money that they've got, They've got skin
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  Speaker 1: in the game. I don't so, I don't know is
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  Speaker 1: it Is it a great efficiency somewhere? Are they seeing
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  Speaker 1: something with an on taped market that they can tap
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  Speaker 1: they have a unique skill to tap. Are they going
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  Speaker 1: to use this to roll up and add other companies?
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  Speaker 1: What exactly is the business model? I don't know. But
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean doesn't exist. It just means I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So big levage buyouts, you expect levage buyouts to keep
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: growing because valuations are growing, partially because of inflation and
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: partially because the market is up. You know, I generally
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  Speaker 1: think that levage buyouts makes sense because because people have
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  Speaker 1: to pay back that debt and and really focuses the
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  Speaker 1: mind when you have a lot of money on the
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: table that you have to pay back. So they must
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: have a strategy of how to get out of this.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Have a strategy, all right? Thank you, Emo, Michael. If
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: the Democrats win big in the midterm, will Trump actually
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: work with them to expand most socialist and fascist policies.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: We will transform into a one party soft dictatorship. Well,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: I think we're already somewhat of a soft dictator ship.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: We've still got the courts holding us back, but I
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: think to a large extent, we already there. I don't
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: know if they'll If the Democrats will work with Trump,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think there'll be a lot
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: of animosity. I think they'll try to impeach him. I
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: think it'll go back and forth. So I don't really
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: expect the Democrats and Republicans to work together into a
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: kind of a uni political party. But with Trump thought
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Coonel says, eight was I'm not sure what eight was means?
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  Speaker 1: Eight was question mark? Anybody know what that means? Eight was? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you can clarify what you mean in the chat.
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  Speaker 1: I'll try to read it, all right. Not to have
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: a algorithm. A reliable way to make people believe in
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: falsehoods is frequent repetition. Yes, I've talked about that often.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: Familiarity is not easily distinguished from truth. Authoritarian institutions have
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: always known this, Yes, I mean this has happened over
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: and over and over again over the years. The Left
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: told us these economic stories. They're completely untrue about wages
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: and everything. They just repeat them, repeat them, repeat them,
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  Speaker 1: repeat them, and everybody just believes them. The right has
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: done the same thing with immigration, and now are tariffs.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's convinced now the tariff's a good thing,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: mainly just because of repetition and some mindlessness. So yes,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: I think that that, I think that that is absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: Repetition is a way to kind of convince it, to
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: kind of condition people to think that something is true
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: even when it is not, even as clearly is not.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: And both left and right have perfected it. And you're right,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: authoritarians have always known this rand. Thank you fifty dollars.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Really appreciate that rand. Great to listen to show with
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: two out of four major topics that are essentially positive.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: It would be nice if reality will consistently fifty percent positive. Well,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: I mean reality is more than fifty percent positive. I mean,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: let's remember that, right. Every day good suffers happening. Every day.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Somebody is starting a business. Every day, an amazing new
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: restaurant is opening somewhere.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Every day.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: There is a new entrepreneur starting up a new business
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  Speaker 1: trying to solve another problem.
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  Speaker 3: There's a scientist some way.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Figuring out how to solve how to kill cancer or whatever.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: So every day the good news out numbers the bad news.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: It's just a lot of little good news and big
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: bad news. The big news the bad news dominates because
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: it's big and it's in politics and we all know
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: about it. The good news is in our personal lives,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: in the economic world, in the tech world, in places
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: like that, and it's hard to keep up and it's
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: all small, so it's not clear that it's newsworthy. So
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: just remember the fact that I don't do fifty to
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: fifty every day doesn't mean it's not overwhelmingly positive out there.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, ran, thank you, thank you,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Let's see, I am committed to
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: trying to find more positives and spending more time on
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  Speaker 1: the positives, not Javis algorithm that Hamas will least. Just
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  Speaker 1: because they can't sustain living like rats on the tunnels,
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  Speaker 1: it's easier to give the hostages back and seek diplomatic
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: immunity or to rebuild their forces. I think they needed.
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  Speaker 1: I think they look. I know that Trump gets all
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the credit for this, but really the credit goes to
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: the Israelis, to Israel, and to the fact that it
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: was willing to penetrate into Gaza City and penetrate into
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  Speaker 1: Gaza and give Ramas a sense that this was it,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: that they were coming after them and they were going
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: to destroy them. And I think, you know, Hamas figured,
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  Speaker 1: releasing the hostage just buys them a little time. They
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: can kill their enemies. Now, they can regroup, they can rearm.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe through diplomatic measures and the so called Piece deal,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: they can indefinitely hold the Israelis back. But I think
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  Speaker 1: they got a sense and attacking Katao gave them that sense,
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  Speaker 1: and attacking Gaza gave them a.
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  Speaker 3: Sense that this was it. Israel was serious, they were
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  Speaker 3: coming after.
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  Speaker 1: Them, and so they decided they decided to stop for now,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: temporarily and to get a breathing. So it is it
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: is hard to sustain life in tunnels, particularly when you
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: know the enemy's closing it and closing it. And look,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: this is the Nataniel's credit. Israel went into Gaza in
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  Speaker 1: spite of massive opposition inside Israel, people who wanted the
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: Israeli government to compromise by all means to release the hostages.
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  Speaker 1: They they and Nathaniel said no. The only way to
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: release the hostages is to put more pressure on Hamas
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: and he was right. He was right. Credit where credits
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  Speaker 1: do all? Right, Linda says Trump is only pro Trump.
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  Speaker 1: How day he take any pleasure in? Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: Trump loves all the attention. He loves that he gets
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  Speaker 1: credited with this deal. He loves being portrayed in the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: world as a peacemaker. He loves the fact that he
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: got the attention of the of the can Asset. He's
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: a real narcissist. I mean, there's He's a real narcissist.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: He He's stood in front of the cansset and talked
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: for an how and rift and and and was funny
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: and entertaining as he always is in these talks, and
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: ridiculous an episode as he always is in these talks.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's in Egypt riffing and roasting all these European
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: leaders and Arab leaders. I mean, roasting is not the
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: right war. But but you know, just riffing Trump is Trump.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Trump is narcissistic Trump. Nothing changes in that sense. Oh,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: eight wars is Trump says he's ended eight Wars. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Trump will keep saying that it's his claim
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  Speaker 1: to fame. He's big on it. But as he.
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  Speaker 3: Ended eight was it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Not really did he really end the Thai Cambodia War?
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  Speaker 1: Was that really a war? Was that going to become
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: a war? You know? Unlikely that he played a decisive
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  Speaker 1: role there? Did he end the India Pakistan? India doesn't
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  Speaker 1: give him any credit? The Pakistanis do because the Pakistanis
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: are sucking up to Trump like there's no tomorrow. But
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: did he did he end that war? No? I doubt it.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Did he end this war? The war framas it's not
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: ended yet, so maybe he will. Maybe the peace deal
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: will end the war, but he hasn't ended it yet,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: so we're not real. He shouldn't be ready to celebrate
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: peace for three thousand years, although he is. So yeah,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a it's a he's gonna claim
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff that is that is doubtful, is
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: is real or accurate? But it doesn't matter. It's like
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: repeating the lies we talked about earlier. If you peat
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: something and over and over and over again, everybody believes
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: it's true. Everybody thinks now he's a peace maker. Whether
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: it's true or not, it's hard to tell without having
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: insight into what actually happened behind the scenes. Andrew, there's
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: the meaning implication and altruism. Do human beings essentially need help?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Is the individual help bless? How do you think a
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: serious altruist would react if you told him to leave
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: others alone and focus on his own life. I think
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: he would really dramatically object. He would he would say
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: that that would make him imorral, that would be self fish,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: that would take away any meaning and purpose he might
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: have in life. Meaning and purpose is to be found
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: outside of you, not inside of you. So yeah, I
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: mean I think I think he would really be upset.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'd be supportive or positive about it
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: at all. It's not about helplessness. It's about the outside orientation,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: the orientation towards other Right, it could be towards God,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: who's not helpless. But you need a sacrifice to God.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: Why does God need your sacrifices? That's for another day.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: But the reality is that you. The one thing altruism
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: is is uniform about. You don't matter, you don't count,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: You do not deserve to be to get attention from
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: yourself consistently. So it's very self demeaning. It's the whole
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: essence of it, Paul says, was Venezuela the model for
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Latin America mines Francisco Dunconi invested in to lose his wealth,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: causing the mucha secondhander to lose their ill gotten wealth
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: and dramatically speeded up the collapse in Atla Shrug. Well,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: I don't see how. I mean. Venezuela was a completely
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: different country in the nineteen fifties and forties. I think
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: that the model was the mines in Chile. Chile is
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: a very rich mining country, and I think that's where
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: Francisco comes from. So in Mexico as mines, I don't
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: think Venezuela played any part in that at all. I
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: don't know much about Venezuela of the fifties, of the
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: forties and fifties. When nine n was writing at La Shrug,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: it certainly wasn't what it is today. This is a
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: modern phenomenon. Chavez came to power in the nineties. I think,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: all right, Clark, on a positive note, I'm looking less
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: and less. It's looking less and less that mcdanny will
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: win New York City, Will Como be a pro business mayor?
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I mean, I haven't heard anybody be optimistic
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: about that. Almost everybody I've heard is saying that mcdonny's
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: a showing, so it would be really good if if,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: if you're right, I very much hope. I haven't seen
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: the latest polls.
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  Speaker 3: Como will be just a regular mayor.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: I mean he'll be he'll be corrupt, and you know,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: he'll probably want to appease the people, will invite him
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: to good parties, and so I think he'll just be
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: middle of the road. Nothing. I think Adams has been
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: a fairly good mayor, has deployed a lot of police
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: and let's hope that the you know, the main thing
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: that a mayor should do is make sure the police
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: is functioning right and make sure crime is down. Let's
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: hope that Como does that. I don't know, Benjamin, thank you.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: He's certainly for the sticker. He's certainly better than Mumdani's,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: so pretty much anybody is better than Mumdani. So I'm
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: really happy if that is. If you're right in that
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: mcdanie's not going to win, that would be huge. I'm
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: actually debating a socialist just a few days after the election.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: It'd be a lot easier for me to debate him
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: if Mumdani loses Okay Leam Part one. I lived in
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: South Korea. The government is far less stable and more
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: corrupt than Maga. Yet the un new skyscraper is going up,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: luxury sports cause on the roads, great restaurants and malls.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: A pinch of freedom has a strong propellant force towards
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: prosperity even in the face of corruption instability. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's right, But it's also true south Korea.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that will corrupt than Mega. I
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: don't know, but as far as I know, you know,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: South Korea does not have a civilian dressed armed police.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I guess you call them armed individuals in unmarked cause
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: rounding people up in the streets and throwing them in
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: the back of vans. And South Korea leaves people mostly
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: alone when it comes to business and what comes to
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and when it comes to things like that, and
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: so I think that's why it's done well. Even when
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: the political class is very corrupt and there's a lot
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: of political instability. You don't need, you know, what you
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: need is basically to leave people alone. Michael, A part
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: of me thinks Trump's people are trying to provoke a
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: crisis that allows him to claim emergency power so he
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: can become dictator. Well, I guess, and I don't think
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: it's for him to become dictator. But there's no question
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: in my view that they're trying to provoke a crisis.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: They're trying to have riots in Portland. They don't have
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: enough riots in Portland, so they're trying to instigate riots
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: in Portland so they can send out the police. No,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: it's not for him to become dictator. He's not going
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: to become dictator, but it's to grow executive.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: Power, to show the left to flex muscles.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: They thrive on that, and to take more and more
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: and more power, to take more and more and more power. Answers,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Can I just say I'm bugged by Libo Rich and
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: others getting invited to Leonard's birthday party seemingly based on
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: how unquestioning they are on his situation. There's no question there,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: and I've show I'm not going to respond, so I
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: appreciate you being bugged, all right, Christos.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: Sadly, I don't think the West should be described.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: As moral any more anymore, being not far away from
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: a dictator ship and woods matter, it should be described
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: as less immoral than the rest of the world. Well, no,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I still think there is a significant difference
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: between the West and the rest of the world. There's
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: a significant difference between Germany and Russia and between France
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: and China from a perspective of freedom, and so maybe
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: they're less moral. But I certainly think the West is
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: still better than the rest of the world from all perspective.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: It's declining and that should be pointed out, and it's
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: becoming less Western in that sense. For example, I often
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: say we'll all China now because we're becoming more like
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: China and less Western. But the West is still better.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: It's still holding on with fingernails barely, but it's still
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: holding on. Kim says loved the prenup and marriage video,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: but would have liked more tips, especially for long term success.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll we'll do more of that.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: We'll do more of that, so I'll do another show
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: on tips on marriage and how to keep it going.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, thanks, Kim, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Justin
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: has bbe exceeded your expectation? Were you wrong? Yeah, he's
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: definitely exceeded my expectation, no question about that. Was I wrong?
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: I guess I was a lot of things that Bibe
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: did ultimately took him much longer than it should have.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: That I didn't think he would do. I didn't think
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: he had the balls to do it, and I didn't
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: think he was decisive enough to do it. And he
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: ultimately did it. I think he was helped along by
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of other factors and it took him, as
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I said, much longer than it should have. But ultimately, yeah,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: what they did to Risabela in Lebanon and what they
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: did to Iran exceeded my expectations. I did not think
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: that Bib would launch that. So yes, I was wrong,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: justin why is Trump so irrational when it comes to
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: most issues but very irrational when it comes to Israel? No,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: I think Trump is completely irrational when it comes to Israel.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: You cannot decide on rationality based on whether the outcome
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: is one you like or not. You have to look
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: at method, and there's no method to his liking of Israel.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: I think politically, he believes that Israel is politically is
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: a topic that that is a strength of his I
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: think partially that's because you know, he's got some some
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: people around him that are very pro Israel, whether it's
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Hickseeth because of his evangelical roots, or whether it's Rubio
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: who's always been pro Israel, or whether it's Kushner, who's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: who's Jared Kushner, who was part of his first administration,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: was partly responsible here, who is who's very pro Israel?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: And and of course he is married to Trump's daughter
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: and she converted to Judaism. So he has a certain
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: personal inclination to be pro Israel.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: But you know, but he goes back and forth between.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Rational and irrational. Do this, but don't do that? Stop here?
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, why did they stop the war with Iran?
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: When they stopped the war with Iran? That was irrational?
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: Why even this deal? Why was this deal struck when
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: it was when it was struck. Why didn't he he
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: let Israel finish the job on Kamas. See what happens
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: in the next few weeks, over and over again, there
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: being this playing both sides and changing his mind. And
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: so he's been decent and Israel, he's been better than
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: he's in Israel than in other things. I think because
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: he's a it's a topic he cares about from way back,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: and he's surrounded by people who seem to care about
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: this topic. But I don't think he's rational. It's just
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: that his emotions here aligned with what is right, which
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't always happen. Thomas. I read nineteen eighty four and
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: was disappointed Jojo Owell's view of humanity. Winston is one
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: that is fearful and pragmatic. Your thoughts in the ending book, Yeah,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: I mean the book is very malevolent. It basically has
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: provides us with no hope. Winston in the end is
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: a dead end. He can't get out of it. It's sad. Yeah,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: in that sense. It's very disappointing, but not very surprising.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think oh well understood where
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: you know, where the individual gets what he gets to
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: deliberate himself. He didn't understand the world of reason and individualism.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: He was a collectivist at the end of the day,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: he was remember Oo was a socialist. Justin ere I
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: advocated for an invasion of Iran after nine to eleven.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: But it now seems that Iran is nearing collapse without
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: significant external divention. Yeah, and we said that at the time.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: I've always said Iran will ultimately collapse, But why wait
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: nine to eleven? Was what twenty five years ago? Why
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: wait twenty five years? And also why, I mean think
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: about it. If you want had been toppled after nine
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: to eleven that never been isis the one If Gernnistan
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: and Iraq would have gone completely differently, particularly in Afghanistan,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: Hamas would have never gained the kind of clout and
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: influence that had gained, they would have never been October seventh.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: Thousands of people would still be alive that are not alive.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: And by the way, we never advocated for invading Iran,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: were advocating for taking out the Iranian regime. As you
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: saw with Israel in twelve days. It didn't invade, and
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: yet it almost toppled the regime. And imagine what the
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: United States could do with planes and cruise missiles and
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: an aggressive, prolonged attack on the regime. The regime would
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: have collapsed and the Iranians would have had twenty five
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: years of freedom, and we would have had twenty five
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: years of a lot less terrorist activity, a lot less
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: terrorist engagement. So why not is the real question, Particularly
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: if you didn't have to have boots in the ground,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: and I know a thought you needed boots in the
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: ground anyone, Thomas. I'm listening to the book We by
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: Zamyatin and am confused by the point the authors making
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: with their main character. Is he trying to say purely
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: logical people gravitate towards authoritarianism?
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not familiar with the book, but I
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, that's that's the argument being made all
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: the time, that reason and logic leads to authoritarianism. Most
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: of the Christians today, Christian Conservatives, the National Conservatives all
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: make that argument that Marx was the epitome of the Enlightenment.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: He was the consequence of reason, and that reason leads
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: to authoritarianism, which is a complete fallacy. But a lot
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: of people believe that, even some libertarians justin have you
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: seen the Brutalist is an objectivist? I have not seen
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: the book, but I can tell you this without any question,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: even not seeing it. It is not objectivist. Islam Ali?
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: How much credit does Trump deserve for this piece deal?
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: And what cause did it happen so quickly? It seemed
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: to have happened overnight. It didn't happen overnight. It took
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: a week or so. But first of all, there's no
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: peace yet, and there's no deal yet. There's an outline
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: for a deal, and there's this first stage, first phase,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: but the second phase is the difficult one where Ramas
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: dis arms and somebody else takes control of Gaza and
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: all of that, and that hasn't happened yet, and I
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to happen.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: So first let's put it in perspective.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: Trump gets some credit for it, forgetting particularly the Arab
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: states in line to put pressure on Hamas, but I
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: don't think any of that would have happened if is
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Well hadn't bombed Doha, hadn't bombed katau I. Also, you know,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: Trump is very good at leveraging what other people want
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: from him. Took he wants F thirty fives, The Egyptians
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: want more security guarantees, the Saudis want something, and he's
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: good at leveraging that. He doesn't care about. Actually, you know,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: he's fine with giving the Turks F thirty fives if
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: they do what he wants. Everything's transactional with him, So
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: he manipulated the transactions to get the Arab world behind it.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: That's his big contribution everything else, And the reason that
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: happened so quickly is because of the military pressure Israel
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: was putting in Ramas Brownie. Is the Daily Wire doing
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: an Atlas Shrugged series. There was talk about that a year ago,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: a year and two ago. I haven't heard anything new.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: I don't really have any new information. So my answer
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: is I don't know. I'm not sure if if The
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: Daily Wire is doing an atlashok TV series or not.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: I don't have any new information about that. My guess
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: is not. But it's just a guess. Thomas.
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  Speaker 3: I was arguing with a friend about art literature.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: As a higher key of what is considered good. I argued,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: good theme and good skill, bad theme and good skill
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: and good theme and bad skill. Thoughts, Yeah, I think
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: that's right. Best is good theme and good skill. Next
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: qua art is bad theme but good skill. Bad is
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: bad philosophy. And the worst and almost the worst is
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: a good theme and bad skill. That that's terrible because
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: then the good theme gets you know, it's not art.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: And then the worst, of course is bad theme and
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: bad skill. But but yes, I agree with that. Absolutely
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: art is art no matter what the theme is. And
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: and you've got to judge the art based on the art.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Art is not subjective at all. Is the quality of
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: art is objective? You've got to do. But then the
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: question is do you have the knowledge to be able
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: to make an objective assessment of the art, and that
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: very few people have. But you know, the the the
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: the way to evaluate art is not to evaluate it
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: based on the theme.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: It's a valuated based on its qualifying to be art.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: Qua art. Is it doing what oar's supposed to do?
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: And how well is it doing it? Whatever the theme
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: happens to be. Jacob Any comments on science fiction elements
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: and outlets shrugged. I think it illustrates well the potential
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: of science that is with written metal and more outdare
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: the motor well in the in the shield, the thing
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: that makes them invisible? Yeah, I mean it's hard to
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: really think of those things as science fick because they're
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: so rooted in this world. But yeah, there's no, there's no.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any issue with using science fiction.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Science fiction is a great tool. I think she wouldn't
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: view to science fiction because it's basically things that are
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: expanding out based on existing knowledge and new metal is
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: not crazy. I mean people inventing new metals today. A
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: perpetual motion machine is more sci fi. A shield that
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: makes them kind of that protects the valley. That's tech
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: that probably exists today. So I mean it's it's the
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  Speaker 1: elements of science fiction and enhanced the story. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's completely legit and uh and and shows you know,
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  Speaker 1: it also illustrates, for Hoe, the potential of science, the
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  Speaker 1: potential of the human mind. Part of the theme of Attler.
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  Speaker 3: Shuck Justice says, please invite more guests.
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  Speaker 1: Get I I would be get Well, I can't do
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  Speaker 1: the interviews while I'm traveling, and I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: traveling a lot. Once I stop traveling, I will invite guests.
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  Speaker 1: So as I did in the past, I will continue
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  Speaker 1: to do. Andrew Trump and the Libertarians have a having
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  Speaker 1: common that they consider peace as a vague as a
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  Speaker 1: value regardless of context. Yeah. I think that's right. I
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think the Libertarians are worse because there's
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  Speaker 1: a there's a nihilism for the Libertarians with regard.
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  Speaker 3: To peace, and I don't think Trump quite has that.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Libertarians and it turns there more intellectual
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  Speaker 1: most sophisticated than he is, so I think they're worse.
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