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Sometimes There's Side Eye - Episode 4: Exploring "It's All in How You Raise Them" and "I Want to Get a Puppy so I Can Raise it Right" · Sometimes There's Side Eye

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  Welcome to sometimes their side. I a podcast about two friends,
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  having real and unfiltered conversations about dogs and
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  people. Listen, as we talk about our
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  lives with dogs, training Behavior, share some laughs and
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  a lot of Banter, my name is Heather.
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  My name is Christy. And today we are talking about
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  the topic of I want to get a puppy to raise them right in
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  conjunction. With, it's all in how you raise
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  them. And before we get started, just
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  a reminder to subscribe rate US and share us.
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  So, if you are somebody who forgets to do that at the end
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  and then get right back in with us and enjoy this topic.
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  And we are so excited to talk about this.
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  One of the reasons that I suggested the topic of I want to
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  get a puppy to raise them, right?
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  And that so easily goes into, it's all in how your reason is
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  because since the pandemic I have been approached by so many
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  people asking for good rescues or good breeders because they
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  want to get a puppy. They wanted to get a dog but
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  they wanted to make sure it was a puppy and they kept telling me
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  because I want to make sure it's raised, right.
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  Which made me kind of start wondering like what What do you
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  mean raised, right. There's nothing wrong with
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  wanting to get a puppy to raise it, right?
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  But they're Christie and then you hate because you hate
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  puppies. Oh yeah, I don't hate puppies.
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  I just don't want one in my home full-time.
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  Please don't give me a puppy as a gift.
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  It will not enjoy that. I showed up at your door and I
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  was like, merry Christmas, happy birthday and Happy Valentine's
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  Day. Christy, I bought a puppy.
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  I would not open the door, buddy.
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  Live here longer my friend. Goodbye.
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  Look what you got yourself. You like that, dog.
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  So it did start me questioning like what do people mean when
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  they say raise them, right? And then asking people the
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  question of how familiar are you with dog behavior in general?
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  And then, you know what, really qualifies an individual to raise
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  a puppy, right? Because as Heather, and I had
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  gone through this other, obviously started with more
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  knowledge, given her background. But as I have learned over the
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  years about puppies and puppy culture and all these things.
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  I kind of personally became overwhelmed with how much there
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  is to raising a puppy. Right there is a lot and write
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  in quotation marks, but, yes, there's so much to it,
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  introducing them to people of different sizes and color, and
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  people with hats, and people without jobs, and people with
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  disabilities who hunched over our wheelchairs.
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  Yes different. Wars and noisy environments.
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  Different noise kids. So there's just a lot to expose
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  a puppy to when thinking about what could my future hold with
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  this dog. Yeah and what do I want to make
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  sure that they have a solid foundation on and that kind of
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  got me thinking I don't think people realize how much there is
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  to it. I think a lot of times when
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  people say I want to get a puppy so I raised them right.
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  What they mean is, I want a puppy who hasn't been abused and
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  you want to raise them with a whole lot of love Within They're
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  faced with a lot of them so that they can be exposed to their
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  family. But in reality like just your
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  family unit isn't really socializing them, that's just
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  their family unit. Yeah.
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  I think a lot of people want to raise their puppies.
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  Right? I don't think for sure, get
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  puppy the normal person. There's bad players and every
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  and everything, but the normal person does not get a puppy and
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  say, like, oh, I really hope I've raised this puppy wrong.
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  Have a crappy family member. Yeah.
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  So I think that kind of let me ask.
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  Let us name this road was watching me with Thiago sort of
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  your first experience with somebody who's really passionate
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  about trying to in quotation marks, do it the right way.
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  Hmm, I don't know. Probably for somebody who's like
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  more passionate about. It does a lot of research, blah,
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  blah blah, and then sets out to sort of do it with the intent.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I think possibly you were
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  you were probably the more organized person I heard and I
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  was doing it because Heather hasn't had list.
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  Yeah. Because I think I've met other
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  passionate people who were socializing and doing everything
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  that they knew to do with the research that was out there at
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  the time. Yeah.
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  But rather was like checking things off.
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  Like these are the things that are important and I want to make
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  sure that they happen in specific week.
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  So they'll God's life and and then continue on from there.
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  It's so I Don't think I had ever experienced that.
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  Yeah malady. Yeah before yeah.
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  Because I pretty much when I have a puppy.
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  It's like man life goes on hold for those first like eight weeks
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  or so that the puppies home. Because I just I want to be able
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  to do everything I can during that imprinting period.
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  And even beyond that, try my best to make things stuck that
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  deck in my favor. So yeah, I was just curious if
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  you've kind of experience that with other with other people and
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  I think like, Even having Lizzie the puppy that we did have.
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  Like, yeah, we were told socialize her, so I was pretty
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  on it with like socialization. Like, yeah, taking her to
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  PetSmart. I mean, we did the best we could
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  with the information, but I was very active in.
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  Like I wanted to enroll her in puppy school.
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  I wanted to socialize her with as many people as I could, and
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  she was really people social, because that was a big concern
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  being part Shar-Pei. Yeah, a lot of times they only
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  Love their family and they're very cautious of strangers.
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  And we knew we were a very social family.
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  Yeah, we had a lot of people coming over.
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  My parents were like, the college group posts at our
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  church. So, you know, we had lots of
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  people coming in all the time and so, we knew we needed a
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  Social puppy. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm lucky
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  enough once again to have all these great people that helped
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  me along the way and taught me. But even having said that, the
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  way that I socialize Thiago in 2017, Is not the way that I will
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  hopefully socialize my puppy. Maybe that might be coming this
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  year. Some of it is the same.
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  I will still choose to introduce my new puppy to appropriate
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  adult dogs outside of his or her home.
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  The dogs that were so into with Thiago learning from are now
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  seniors. And so I need to, like, come up
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  with a whole new list of adult dogs because I would not ask
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  Lucy. Would not enjoy that because
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  we're not just going to adult dogs and being like, hey, we
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  don't care if you like it or not.
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  Let's just go have at it. We want adult dogs who are also
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  very fair and are going to enjoy the time to.
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  That's a whole nother piece of it.
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  And then we already talked about how I sort of over socialize
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  Thiago to people won't be doing that this time around still all
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  the exposure. Till the people, the places, the
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  children, the environments, all that stuff, but more in a
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  passive. Of socialization type of way
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  because we know better, we do better.
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  It is interesting to think about from the average family who's
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  getting a pet. We don't mean that in an okwe,
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  this was us when we were growing up, we're getting a pet, you're
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  not seeking out actively majority of the most recent
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  articles on training and you're not tapped into that world.
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  So it's really difficult to get the good information if you're
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  trying to look up. How to train a dog, you're going
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  to get 572 opinions and you're going to be sitting there as a
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  person. Just going, what the fuck is the
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  right thing to listen to? So that's really hard to, I
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  think it makes it man. It makes it almost impossible to
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  know what the heck to listen to. And I think that, that probably
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  goes into why I created my business, which is socializing,
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  and training, and working with puppies, for people.
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  When I said, Shout to create puppy, kale day.
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  It was really because I'm super passionate about all this stuff.
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  And I want everyone to be able to have the opportunity to have
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  their puppy, brought up with the most support possible.
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  I also want people to enjoy their puppies.
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  So if you are overwhelmed and like, don't know what to do,
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  don't know what article to listen to need to work a
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  full-time job and have three kids and you're trying to bring
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  up a puppy. Holy cow.
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  That's Lat. Yeah.
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  So they want to do the right thing.
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  All of my clients know that they don't have all the tools they
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  need. And that it's not like they're
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  like me where they're super passionate about doing all the
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  research to figure it out. They have a full life, you know,
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  my life is dogs. So to me, it's like, well, I've
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  already done the research. I've already looked at
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  everything. I know how I would raise a
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  puppy, and if you align with the way that I would raise a puppy,
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  bring it on, you know, let me help you with that.
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  So far, all of my clients have been so, so thankful because
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  they still get to enjoy their puppy.
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  The topic is kind of coming from a good place.
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  I want to raise them, right? Because we're adding this family
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  member but there are definitely other ways to think about it, I
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  guess. Yeah.
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  And I think it goes saying I want to raise them, right?
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  Comes from the saying, it's all in how you raise them.
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  It kind of is a An offshoot of that.
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  Yes, that train of thought that you have to raise them yourself.
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  Yeah. Or you have to know how they
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  were raised for them to be in okay dog.
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  Yeah they have to have a really great intro to life to be a good
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  dog later in life. Yeah.
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  Which we always want to set a dog up for Success.
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  We want to Stack the deck in their favor, but there are so
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  many examples of really great dogs who had a really bad start
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  to Life. Yeah, and there's great examples
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  of dogs who struggled later in life, who had a really great
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  upbringing so that we know that they're the start to life was
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  very Kush and very, I mean, I was three of them.
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  Yeah, yeah. So let's talk about your dogs.
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  Of course, as you all know, I had a pit bull named Lucy and we
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  adopted her when she was 14 weeks old in 75 and we were of
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  the mindset that we were going to raise this puppy, right?
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  And we were going to bring her into our home with our two other
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  dogs, and because we were starting with her as a puppy
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  that everyone was going to get along perfectly.
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  It sounds so stupid. Now not stupid, just like silly,
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  nobody stupid for thinking that it's just feel silly to me at
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  this point. It's so mature, a cultural
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  thing. Yes.
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  Yes, that you do. My into it that was a very
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  enthusiastic. Yes.
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  Yeah, we adopted her and as, you know, from the our dogs episode
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  things didn't go as planned. And I spent a lot of time
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  socializing Lucy. She actually went to the daycare
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  that I worked at and was active in at the time.
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  She started training as soon as she got her vaccinations and we
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  were working towards her becoming my agility dog.
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  So I was very Very passionate about her being out in the world
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  and the way I did things back in mid 2000's was, you know, the
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  best that I could do considering the circumstances and the
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  knowledge that we had at the time I feel like I did a really
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  good job in quote raising her, right and by the time she was,
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  you know, 16 months old. We started having problems
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  within our home and while there were dogs that Lucy was Social
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  with as a young dog even after we started having problems in
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  our home, ultimately she became an only dog in our Singleton and
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  we never ended up introducing her to anyone else.
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  Once we got to a certain point in her age because it was the
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  right thing for her. There's an example of a dog that
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  we quote raised, right? And shit went wrong, a huge
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  piece of that is just that was her genetics and that's who she
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  was and I could not combat. Those genetics, no matter what I
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  did. The flip side of that would be
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  Daisy on. Remy, you know, Remi came into
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  our home about four years old. When we adopted her, she walked
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  into our house, similar to Daisy.
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  And just said, okay, this is where I am cool.
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  I'm acclimated and I'm good to go with Remy situation.
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  She came into the local in take shelter.
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  She was almost completely bald. She had really, really bad.
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  Allergies environmental and food, and she was in a pretty
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  bad way. Medically as a young dog, she
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  spent two years in Foster, in rescue waiting for her home.
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  She ended up being completely dark social, and people social,
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  and she actually was tested and passed to be a therapy dog.
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  But the day that she was supposed to have her first visit
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  was when her back stuff started. So she had gone through the
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  process to be a I registered therapy, dog, as well as Daisy.
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  So it is assumed that Remy didn't have, maybe that I don't
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  want to say, like Grammy was an abuse case or anything like
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  that, but I think that whoever had her didn't have great
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  resources. I don't think that they were
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  probably doing everything that I was doing with my loser engine.
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  Puppy culture member to like doing neuro stem at when she was
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  three weeks old, and they weren't doing socialization
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  trip. Oops, two different Home Depot
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  Lowe's, and Etc. They weren't putting her through
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  training classes and all that stuff.
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  And similarly, with Daisy, she was found as a stray when she
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  was about four I believe and she went in to rescue.
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  She was as we know a medical nightmare, she had to have some
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  pretty extensive knee reconstruction surgeries on both
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  knees when she came in. And so she spent A lot of time
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  getting recuperated from the medical side and then her
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  initial Foster is fantastic, but he was a young guy at the time
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  living in a house with other Bachelors.
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  I don't think he was doing all that well, and she was already
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  four, but I don't think you should do.
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  Y'all think that I was doing with my young dogs, but he did a
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  great job of getting her fixed up medically, she then bounced
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  around to an adoptive home for a year.
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  Year, which was a good situation for her, but then they couldn't
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  keep her. And then she bounced back and
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  then, she bounced to our house. I mean, this dog bounced all
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  around. Probably her whole life.
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  She just cruised into our house at like, 8 years old.
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  And was like, hey guys, I'm here.
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  I'm amazing live with the magic and love it and we did.
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  And she, she was magical. He was, and I didn't do people
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  say to me. Oh, my gosh, Daisy!
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  She was an amazing therapy, dog. Did you train her to do that?
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  Hell. No.
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  That was Daisy. That was just pure susheela's.
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  Yeah, that's an example of the flip side.
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  The reason that we bring up both sides is because I am a person
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  who's passionate about quote, raising my puppy, right?
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  And look how wrong it can go because we have no control over
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  genetic factors. What do I say?
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  Christie. Genetics are a tricky.
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  Mistress her. Yeah and I think that we We
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  should talk about troops story because he's another great
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  example of where things can start wrong and go completely
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  right. I want to call him shoot like
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  Shoop ba-doop ba-doop ba-doop anyway to I know but like I just
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  hear Salt-N-Pepa every single time.
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  You say his name. So chup belongs to my friend who
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  lives in Minnesota, and he came from a hoarding case.
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  He came from a home with 150 dogs.
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  Crazy is Sing like, I can imagine living with 150 bucks
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  but he did, he wasn't like a breeding facility.
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  It was just a hoarding case. A lot of those dogs have to be
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  dispersed Out Among multiple States because no one rescue
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  could would think so a pup for all of them.
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  So when qu came in a he is missing an eye and they believe
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  from trauma, obviously, we don't know his backstory, but they
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  think it was probably some sort of dog to dog trauma on his eye.
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  When he first came in his foster mom.
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  Mom said that he was so scared. She would just sit in the room
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  with him, with his crate door open, and he would stay in the
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  crate because he was just too scared to come out.
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  And so she'd only like leash him to take him outside to go to the
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  bathroom, but left, everything else up to him on his terms so
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  that he could get comfortable on whatever to Foster, what an
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  amazing faster. Yeah, my friends started seeing
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  pictures of him and immediately fell in love and said we don't
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  want just to A dog, we want to adopt this specific dog and
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  governorís mobile, both on board with it.
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  And so when they met chup, I remember correctly, he had under
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  like a Barstool the entire time he didn't want to come to them.
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  He was not like these are my people or anything like that,
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  and they were so undeterred when they adopted him, he still had
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  some some coming out of his shell to do.
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  Obviously, he was learning to trust of this point.
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  This dog is like, Like the Walmart greeter of dogs.
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  Like, oh my God, that was everything.
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  And everyone is his friend, all people, all dogs.
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  He gets along with big dogs and small dogs, so he's kind of
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  social to oh yeah, he lives with two cats.
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  So that was a concern of mine when she first got him.
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  I said he looks like a cattle, dog.
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  Are we sure that he's going to be cat social because I don't
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  want something to happen to your cat's.
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  He's like 20 pounds and I am not a small dog person in that I
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  love All dogs. I don't want to own a small dog
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  personally I don't want it living in my home perm.
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  I can't wait until you're like 75 years old and have a small
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  dog and I can replay this agreement, be small but but like
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  I do definitely threatened to steal chup because he is so
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  amazing. He looks very big and pictures.
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  He looks like a 40p guys. Hi I'm but was like shocked when
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  you told me his actual size because I look at pictures of
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  him and I'm like 35, 40 pounds. And then if you compare the
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  pictures with the cats, he's barely larger than I don't think
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  I've seen a picture like that, but that's so funny because then
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  you see it in perspective, know, I still believe he's big.
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  Like I said, I don't think of him as a big probably why you
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  like him because in your mind you're like he's like a 35-pound
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  dog. Not a little told ya.
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  He is and he's got the personality of your big dog.
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  Yeah, he's not trying to prove anything.
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  He's just a big dial. He's like, hey guys, I'm here
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  friend. Welcome to the party.
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  He is so great. And now he goes to the old folks
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  home and he is that that might not be the right term to call it
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  anymore. B0, retirement, Retirement
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  Facility old book so that is not getting edit it out.
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  Sorry that was offensive. Daddy.
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  Yes, the retirement facility but he goes there and he volunteers
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  and they just love him and also my friend does Big Brothers, Big
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  Sisters and she As a little brother right now.
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  And and so her little comes over, and he does great with
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  with her little brother. He's good with kids, he's good
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  with adults, he's good with dogs, he's good with cats.
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  It's like everyone on Earth as his friend life, man.
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  Yeah, he did a great job. Supporting him in the beginning.
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  What he needed to sort of come out.
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  Absolutely, definitely a case, he was not getting what he
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  needed in the beginning and still ended up being an amazing.
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  I also don't want everyone to think.
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  Oh, if you just love them enough, it's right.
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  You know, because we the same friend and I have a mutual
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  friend, who didn't adopt an adult, dog, from a breeding
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  facility and she, she still is pretty Farrell.
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  Yeah. After three years of care and
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  love and and doing a multiple trainers and behaviorist.
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  Yeah. Involved and LEDs all of it and
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  I think they've come to accept that.
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  That's who she is. Yeah, they're letting her look,
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  her best life in that condition and those term.
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  No. Yeah.
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  Feral hog, who, who lives with two people who she will taller.
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  And they do a really good job of like respecting her boundaries
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  so that she can live the best life possible.
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  Considering the circumstances and really because they do such
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  a good job. Good job.
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  She's living her best life as Lena.
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  The dog. She is.
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  Yeah, absolutely. I want to share one more story
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  because we Haven't talked about a puppy or a dog situation where
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  the person goes to an ethical responsible breeder, and they
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  have done everything to stack, the deck in their favor and crap
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  goes wrong. So I want to kind of make sure
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  that we touch on examples of all sides.
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  Everyone knows that my world is Rottweilers and that's where I
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  came from. I have a friend who quite
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  literally did everything possible to stack the deck in.
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  In their favor when they were getting a new puppy and they
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  went to someone who they knew the lines really well, they had
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  had dogs from them before or related to them before they were
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  sticking to a breed. You know, they had been in
• 22:44
  Rottweilers for decades at this point extremely experienced
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  owners. They got a puppy and that
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  breeder did all the things that we would want, you know, when
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  raising the litter and making everything happen.
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  Family, and I actually met the dog.
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  Did you know that I actually met him?
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  Uh-huh. Yeah.
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  So I actually did meet him when he was an adolescent.
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  I think it was probably around a year old so not sexually mature,
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  not socially mature at that point before the age of two,
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  unfortunately some things transpired.
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  And this dog was not well, he had some serious behavior
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  issues, even though they had done, you know, in quotations.
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  Everything, right? They ended up having to
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  euthanize him because he was not safe.
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  I fully support their decision. I have no doubt that this was
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  what needed to happen for the safety of the family, because he
• 23:43
  was not well, but that's an example of.
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  Hey, we did everything. We were supposed to do and shit,
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  went South really bad. And I know I actually have
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  personally met another dog from that litter.
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  Who's great? And so Just really interesting
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  to me how there's like the flip side of it as well.
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  And here, we sit back to the same point, which is genetics.
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  You can't fight the genetic background.
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  You can, you can structure some things to try to help it.
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  You can support the dog, you can, you know, try to combat it
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  with different behavioral, protocols and everything else.
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  But at the end of the day, A my Lucy was who she was my Daisy
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  was who she was. Remy, was who she was troop, is
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  who he is. We can bust our asses to make
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  everything perfect. But we still have to remember
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  that. That genetic factor is there,
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  and it's a big piece of it, going back to.
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  I want a puppy to get them, you know, want to get a puppy to
• 24:52
  raise them, right? And then also, it's all in how
• 24:54
  you raise them. I think the main point is that
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  we want people to think Yeah. And when they're thinking about
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  their next dog, whether it be an adult or a puppy that they
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  really think through what resources do I have.
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  If I get a puppy and I'm going to support it.
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  I'm going to raise it. Do I have a team around me?
• 25:18
  That can help me with this? Do I have a trainer that I
• 25:22
  already know? And I know I want to utilize.
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  Do I need to look for someone like me who's doing this as A
• 25:29
  passion and as a business to help support our family during
• 25:33
  the formative months or like, Christie is an adult dog.
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  A better decision. Yeah.
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  Logging with loves the perfect father right now but this is
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  amazing. Yeah, I love getting an adult
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  dog. Because you know what?
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  You're getting into. Yes of the time I like yes,
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  environment matters. Like so sometimes People will be
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  like, well, the dog at the shelter wasn't barking and now
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  it's a Parker. Yes.
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  Yeah, environment. There's but for the most part,
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  you are getting a dog, you're seeing who they are.
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  Yeah, as an adult. And so that's not going to
• 26:11
  change significantly for you. Unless it's a major event
• 26:15
  happens. Yeah.
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  Unless there's you know some well there's a lot of reasons
• 26:19
  that it could but for the most part you're pretty much getting
• 26:22
  who you're bargaining for. Yeah I like to look for dogs
• 26:26
  that meet the criteria. I'm looking for.
• 26:29
  Yeah. Yeah, but as an adult, you know,
• 26:31
  so that I don't have to train that in, it's just who they are
• 26:35
  and then they can work from there because there's always
• 26:37
  things we can train, right? Training is never done, but who
• 26:42
  they are is developed, right? And and I like knowing who they
• 26:47
  are and if you are looking at it, so say, you're a family who
• 26:52
  has children and has a cat, you know, then I would say look to
• 26:56
  organizations who have dogs in foster homes, And you can
• 27:00
  literally find people who have dogs that are in Foster with
• 27:03
  kids and a cat. And then you have information
• 27:06
  about this dog. And it's a, it's a, such an
• 27:10
  easier transition than what if you start with a puppy that you
• 27:15
  have no knowledge of and you're not capable of supporting it
• 27:19
  because life and then the dog ends up not liking kids or you
• 27:25
  know, chases your cat or whatever.
• 27:27
  So, I think there's value to rough with your Kids, like, I
• 27:30
  really love them that ban liked apples and is a lot, FYI.
• 27:34
  Thiago, when my family visits with my niece and nephews Tiago
• 27:41
  is highly managed during that time because Tiago is a lot of
• 27:45
  dog for children. He has not grown up with
• 27:48
  children and he gets very worried and concerned about
• 27:53
  children making certain noises, he's not a dog who could easily
• 27:57
  live with children now, Because he wasn't exposed to it.
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  And also, I just don't think it's, I don't think that he
• 28:04
  would have a great quality of life.
• 28:05
  If he lived in a house full of kids, you know, these are all
• 28:08
  things that you want to be thinking about when you're like,
• 28:11
  hey let's get a puppy. Hey let's add an adult, an adult
• 28:15
  dog. Look at your life and see and be
• 28:19
  honest about it. Choose the right fit for your
• 28:22
  family. Yeah, there's and there's
• 28:24
  nothing wrong with wanting a puppy or an adult dog.
• 28:27
  Know their one. But also So I think we have to
• 28:30
  stop some of these things because they do.
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  It's all in how you raise them, really?
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  Demonizes shelter dogs, that are adults.
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  Yes really stands in the way of people even considering yes I'm
• 28:44
  getting an adult dog that is fantastic.
• 28:48
  One really in a lot of ways, those are the easier way to go.
• 28:51
  A lot of in a lot of situations they are And we have a lot of
• 28:56
  examples of shelter dogs, dogs in rescue dogs who came from
• 29:00
  hoarding situations, dog, dogs, who came from dog fighting bust
• 29:04
  that are fantastic, family pets, and that spectrum is Broad and
• 29:09
  wide, but there are a ton of examples.
• 29:12
  And so if we keep saying it's all in, how you raise them,
• 29:16
  damn, you're putting like a rubber stamp on all of those.
• 29:19
  Amazing adult dogs who had a crappy crappy start in life,
• 29:23
  like my Daisy. Remy.
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  And how unkind is it to say that to someone like your friend who
• 29:30
  did everything right or to you, right?
• 29:33
  Did everything, right? And then say all the time, how
• 29:36
  you're raised them. So this is clearly your fault.
• 29:39
  Yeah. Like, you're responsible for
• 29:41
  this and the statement I want to get a puppy to raise them,
• 29:44
  right? It's like, we'll come back at me
• 29:46
  and be like, Oh, clearly raised her wrong shit.
• 29:50
  I mean, I did everything I possibly could my friend.
• 29:53
  Did everything that As she could and it just went South.
• 29:57
  Yeah. So when you have somebody say to
• 30:00
  you Christy, they see Lucy. And like, clearly, we all know
• 30:04
  she's perfect. So they see Lucy and they say to
• 30:08
  you. Oh wow.
• 30:09
  You know, it's all in how you raise them.
• 30:11
  What do you say? I typically say I didn't raise
• 30:13
  her, I got some adult. Yeah.
• 30:17
  And in her younger years, people would often back away from her
• 30:22
  when I said that she does look like he is Sheep wool.
• 30:26
  She is a pit bull. We know now we got her DNA of an
• 30:29
  ethically tested 97% purple but she looks very typical pit bull.
• 30:35
  Yes, she does. Now she's very not intimidating
• 30:39
  with her grey face. Yeah.
• 30:40
  Usually has pearls on. Yeah.
• 30:43
  And sometimes like a little jacket with unicorns on it.
• 30:47
  It's or she's a very 0% intimidating to anyone at this
• 30:51
  point now. So in the past they would back
• 30:56
  away. Now they just go, it's nice.
• 30:58
  No. And then they continue petting
• 31:00
  her. So what is your typical
• 31:02
  response? If people say to me, I want to
• 31:05
  get a puppy to raise them, right?
• 31:07
  Or it's all in how you raise them.
• 31:09
  I usually just give a little, hey, genetics, as a thing.
• 31:13
  And a lot of times that will make people sort of stopped and
• 31:18
  like, give me a quizzical look and I'm a person who loves to
• 31:22
  educate and if They seem like the doors open.
• 31:27
  Then I will most certainly walk through it and have a
• 31:29
  conversation. I mean, clearly, I'm an
• 31:31
  extrovert, I'll talk to anybody. I also don't feel an obligation
• 31:36
  to educate the world at this point.
• 31:38
  So I just like to have my little tagline that I kind of toss out
• 31:43
  as an automatic response and I let people sit with it and if it
• 31:48
  plants a seed, great, if it doesn't, that's cool.
• 31:52
  You know, my experience has been my own experience and has
• 31:55
  brought me to where I am now. So I just try to really think
• 32:00
  about things at this point because we everybody who says
• 32:04
  these statements is coming from a good place, I used to say
• 32:07
  these things. You know we go back to now we
• 32:10
  know better so we do better because they're just not
• 32:13
  accurate statements. Yeah and I think that's what we
• 32:16
  would hope. People get out of this.
• 32:19
  Yeah episode is maybe think before you say certain phrases
• 32:23
  phrases that are Running around all the time that are so
• 32:27
  socially common and socially accepted but may not be true.
• 32:32
  Yeah, and consider a lot of just thinking through and
• 32:35
  consideration of, if you do want to get a puppy, what resources
• 32:39
  do you have? Yes, what is your knowledge of
• 32:43
  dog behavior? Do need to up that before you
• 32:45
  get your puppy and what what support to you or you know, what
• 32:50
  is stopping you from getting an adult dog?
• 32:53
  Yes as well. So So, all of those are things,
• 32:57
  we would hope that this kind of gets you thinking about, like we
• 33:00
  said, there's no right or wrong answers.
• 33:03
  I'm going to pick the right dog for your family.
• 33:05
  But yeah, we just want you to have a good experience with the
• 33:08
  dog that's happening in your home.
• 33:10
  Because we also want you to keep in mind, this is going to be
• 33:14
  your family member for the rest of your life.
• 33:16
  Well, the rest of their life, if only it was the rest of our
• 33:19
  lives but the rest of their life and we want it to be enjoyable.
• 33:24
  I want it to be a great experience for you and the dog.
• 33:28
  Everybody go love their dogs. Yes, absolutely.
• 33:33
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• 33:41
  Thank you so much for listening and until next time, bye-bye.