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Hour 2: History of 9-11. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: On 710WOR, The Mark Simone Show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's the 25th anniversary of 9-11 as we look
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  Speaker 2: back on it this morning. Now, at the World Trade
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  Speaker 2: Center now, you've got all the living presidents. You've got
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  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton. You've got George W. Bush. You've got Barack Obama.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Joe Biden there. They're counting him as a
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  Speaker 2: living president.
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  Speaker 3: President.
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  Speaker 2: He's sort of living. And you got Rudy Giuliani there.
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  Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani is there. And Mayor Mamdani is there. There
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  Speaker 2: was a moment earlier where Mamdani and Rudy shook hands.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see the video later. Rudy Giuliani shaking hands with Mamdani. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Rudy was one of those people saying Mamdani should not come,
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  Speaker 2: should not be there. So far, he's there without incident.
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  Speaker 2: As I say, Giuliani, pretty cordial, shook his hand. So
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  Speaker 2: it's an interesting story of the World Trade Center back then.
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  Speaker 2: 25 years ago, a guy named Larry Silverstein, big real
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  Speaker 2: estate developer in Manhattan, still going strong to this day.
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  Speaker 2: He was 70 25 years ago. He's 95 now. Still
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  Speaker 2: works every day, goes to work every day. He's building, building, building,
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  Speaker 2: but Back then, he was a big real estate developer.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, he was 70 years old. And it was
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  Speaker 2: August of 2001, and he bought the World Trade Center.
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  Speaker 2: He bought the Twin Towers.
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  Speaker 4: $ 3 billion.
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  Speaker 2: Somehow, he borrowed the billions of dollars, and he bought
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  Speaker 2: the Twin Towers. Seven weeks later was 9-11. He just
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  Speaker 2: bought them, and seven weeks later, 9-11, his project. His
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  Speaker 2: lifetime achievement buying the World Trade Center suddenly became a nightmare. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he's 95 today. It's 25 years later. As I say,
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  Speaker 2: he's still working, still going strong, goes to the office
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  Speaker 2: every day. His office is at Seven World Trade Center,
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  Speaker 2: which is the first tower that they rebuilt. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when the towers came down, Silverstein had just bought them.
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  Speaker 2: This is an incredible nightmare. He doesn't know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: The insurance companies refused to pay the insurance companies. And
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  Speaker 2: nobody knew what to do when the towers were knocked down.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody had any idea what to do with the site
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  Speaker 2: once it was cleaned up. And by the way, the
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  Speaker 2: cleanup of that site is an amazing achievement for government.
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  Speaker 2: You know, usually it takes government years to do simple
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  Speaker 2: things that the private sector could do in a couple
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  Speaker 2: of months. You've seen when the government tries to build
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  Speaker 2: a building, it takes years. When it's private sector, building
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  Speaker 2: goes up in six months. So The fact that they
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  Speaker 2: got the cleanup done so quickly was an amazing thing,
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  Speaker 2: an amazing thing. But they got it done. But then
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  Speaker 2: the question is, what do you do on this site now?
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  Speaker 2: And it was Donald Trump back then who kept saying,
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  Speaker 2: and Donald Trump had been to the site right after 9-11.
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  Speaker 2: He was there. He was on the ground. He's a builder.
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  Speaker 2: He was offering to help, offering his people to do
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  Speaker 2: whatever you needed. But he kept saying, just build it
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  Speaker 2: back exactly the way it was, just to show the
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  Speaker 2: terrorists you can't do that to us. We'll put it
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  Speaker 2: back exactly. He actually said, get the original blueprints. They
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  Speaker 2: were all on file. Get the original blueprints, the original plans,
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  Speaker 2: and build it back exactly the way it was. But
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  Speaker 2: the idea was to build something new, and Silverstein had
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  Speaker 2: to do it. But as I said, the insurance companies
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't pay the claim. It was such a bizarre, strange
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  Speaker 2: thing that happened. Nobody had ever anticipated anything like that happening.
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  Speaker 2: So it wasn't in the insurance policy. And it took
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  Speaker 2: the government, it took, I think Eliot Spitzer was the
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General at the time. Oh, no, actually, he had
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  Speaker 2: become governor. After Pataki left, Eliot Spitzer became governor, and
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  Speaker 2: Silverstein still couldn't get the insurance companies to pay the
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  Speaker 2: money for the World Trade Center. He couldn't rebuild until
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  Speaker 2: he got the money. So it was then-Governor Eliot Spitzer
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  Speaker 2: who had to go after the insurance companies. He threatened
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  Speaker 2: to bar them from ever doing business in New York
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  Speaker 2: if they didn't pay up and pay the claims for Silverstein.
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  Speaker 2: So eventually they paid it, and they were able to
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  Speaker 2: start building it back. And as you saw, they built
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  Speaker 2: one World Trade Center, then they built three and four.
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  Speaker 2: These buildings all slowly but surely got put back. There's
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  Speaker 2: only one building left, and they're working on that now.
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  Speaker 2: It's the final building. And it just started construction. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to take about a year or so, but they'll
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  Speaker 2: get it up and that'll be the final building. But
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing that everybody forgets. When they decided, Silverstein
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  Speaker 2: decided he would build back on the site, he would
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  Speaker 2: put a new World Trade Center there. You remember right
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  Speaker 2: after the attacks, as things started to calm down, they
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  Speaker 2: did calm down a bit, but everybody kept saying the
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  Speaker 2: same thing. Everybody said nobody will ever live downtown ever again.
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  Speaker 2: You heard that all the time. Nobody will ever live
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  Speaker 2: downtown again. You know the other thing you heard? Nobody
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  Speaker 2: will ever live on top of a big glass skyscraper.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody will ever live on the top of a skyscraper
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  Speaker 2: ever again. Well, two things happened after that. Downtown became
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  Speaker 2: the hottest residential area in New York. Hotter than it
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  Speaker 2: had ever been. And if you look out that window
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  Speaker 2: over there, the billionaire's row, there's a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 2: hundred-story skyscrapers with $ 300 million penthouses at the top of them.
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  Speaker 2: And they're all sold. So both those predictions were false.
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  Speaker 2: But the problem was when Silverstein got the money and
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  Speaker 2: was going to build back, it was still too scary
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  Speaker 2: back then. Who would ever go into the World Trade
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  Speaker 2: Center again knowing terrorists might come after it? It was
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  Speaker 2: a real problem. And you know who the hero was,
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  Speaker 2: the hero company? American Express. They were the first ones.
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  Speaker 2: American Express stepped up, took a huge, huge lease. They
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  Speaker 2: agreed to serve as the anchor tenant for the new building.
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  Speaker 2: And that gave Silverstein a guarantee he needed to get
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  Speaker 2: his financing. So he obviously got the financing. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the land belonged to the Port Authority. And they were
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  Speaker 2: able to do some stuff as long as the buildings
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  Speaker 2: were gone for a couple of years and the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing was a big empty lot, actually a hole at
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  Speaker 2: the time. They were able to go in there and
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  Speaker 2: rebuild the subways and put in new subway stations and
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  Speaker 2: fix everything under there. But it was a long time
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  Speaker 2: before they were able to get that going. But Silverstein
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  Speaker 2: still goes to work every day. And he's just started
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  Speaker 2: construction on the final building. And a year from now,
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing will be complete. Absolutely finished. Rudy Giuliani
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  Speaker 2: is there. Of course, he was the big hero of
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  Speaker 2: the day. And give a lot of credit to George Pataki,
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  Speaker 2: who helped lead things. And there was Tom Von Essen,
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  Speaker 2: great guy. He's still active. Tom Von Essen was the
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  Speaker 2: fire commissioner, one of our very best. And Bernie Carrick
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  Speaker 2: was the police commissioner at the time. Actually, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to a dinner tonight, a big 9-11 gala with George
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  Speaker 2: Pataki and others. And it'll be quite an event tonight,
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  Speaker 2: 25 years later. George W. Bush is down there. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: he was president at the time. There were all these reports. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: he was speaking to school kids in the Florida classroom
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  Speaker 2: when the attack happened, and then they shuttled him out
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  Speaker 2: of there, grabbed him, put him on Air Force One.
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  Speaker 2: There were these reports. Why was he flying all over
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  Speaker 2: the place? Remember, he flew here, he flew there. They
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  Speaker 2: tried to make it look like something was chaotic or
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  Speaker 2: he was a coward. Actually, it was all very logical.
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  Speaker 2: In an attack like that, when the country is under attack,
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  Speaker 2: The plan is separate the president and the vice president.
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  Speaker 2: The president goes to the situation room, the command center
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  Speaker 2: in the White House, and the vice president is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to go to Nebraska, where they have an exact duplicate
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  Speaker 2: of the White House situation room and command center. And
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  Speaker 2: it's from those command centers that you can control everything,
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  Speaker 2: our military, our weapons, our nuclear weapons. So that's the plan.
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  Speaker 2: President in the White House command center. vice president in
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  Speaker 2: the Nebraska command center, which is deep underground. So when
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  Speaker 2: the attack happened, Cheney was already in the command center
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  Speaker 2: at the White House and the Secret Service decided it
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  Speaker 2: didn't make sense to move both of them because they
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what was going on. They didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: was under attack. They did know that there had been
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  Speaker 2: threats against Air Force One. It turned out later they
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  Speaker 2: were not real, but they didn't want to move Cheney
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  Speaker 2: and Bush. So they decided Bush would go to Nebraska. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is the part they kept quiet. Air Force One
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to be fully equipped with fuel, with food,
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  Speaker 2: enough stuff to be able to stay in the air
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  Speaker 2: for weeks. When they went to this classroom in Florida,
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  Speaker 2: it was just a quick trip. It was going to
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  Speaker 2: be like a five-hour trip. They got lazy that day.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't bother to equip the plane with everything. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't stock it up. So he had to go to
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  Speaker 2: Nebraska to the command center, but the plane wasn't fully stocked.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why they had to land at that first base. Barksdale, Louisiana,
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  Speaker 2: which was a place where they could stock up the plane.
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  Speaker 2: And I've talked to reporters who were there. Everybody looked
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  Speaker 2: out the window. They didn't know why they were landing
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  Speaker 2: at this base in Barksdale, Louisiana, but they sat on
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  Speaker 2: the runway for a couple hours. And all they saw
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  Speaker 2: were trucks just coming up to the plane. And the
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  Speaker 2: trucks would load like hundreds of loaves of bread, hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of containers of food, hundreds of gallons. of milk. Fuel
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  Speaker 2: trucks kept coming. So they had the plane then prepared
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  Speaker 2: the way it should be. So if it had to,
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  Speaker 2: Air Force One could stay in the air for weeks
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  Speaker 2: on end. But then they got to Nebraska to that
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  Speaker 2: base and reporters looked out and they saw instead of
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  Speaker 2: a car picking up Bush, it was a very, very,
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  Speaker 2: very armored military vehicle that he got into. And it
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  Speaker 2: took him to a place where he went down an
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  Speaker 2: elevator shaft into the ground. And that's when he was
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  Speaker 2: in the command center. He then, uh, at some point,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was late in the day, very late
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  Speaker 2: that day demanded to come back to the white house. But, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it was a scary day. Nobody took their eyes off
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  Speaker 2: television or if they were out listening to the radio
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  Speaker 2: that day and keeping track of this. But, uh, Now,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting. President Trump is worried about classrooms.
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  Speaker 2: You know, our universities became crazy indoctrination centers. And that's
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  Speaker 2: where you get this new generation of crazy left-wing socialist
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  Speaker 2: nuts that will vote for a guy like Mamdani. The colleges,
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  Speaker 2: the universities, even the high schools filled with these woke,
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  Speaker 2: kooky left-wing teachers indoctrinating kids. And one of the problems
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  Speaker 2: is how they teach 9-11. It's a big problem. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of these classrooms, the kids are taught that might
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  Speaker 2: have been our fault and the terrorists had a legitimate grievance.
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  Speaker 2: That kind of stuff is actually slipping into college classrooms
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  Speaker 2: from these crazy professors. You know, this is the way
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  Speaker 2: guys like Mom Donnie feel, and this is the way
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  Speaker 2: his father is one of these professors. So the Trump
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  Speaker 2: administration now issuing guidance on how teaching 9-11 should be taught.
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  Speaker 2: Linda McMahon, Education Secretary. calling on American schools to educate
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  Speaker 2: the kids with moral clarity about 9-11 and the significance
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  Speaker 2: for the nation's history. He's asking educators to teach the
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  Speaker 2: real stories of great heroism and courage that day. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you think about that Shanksville flight. The plane had been hijacked.
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  Speaker 2: They knew some of them had cell phones or portable radios.
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  Speaker 2: They knew what was going on at the World Trade Center.
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  Speaker 2: They knew what was going on with the planes. These
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  Speaker 2: hijackers were actually terrorists. They were going to crash the
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  Speaker 2: plane into the White House. So those passengers, they knew
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  Speaker 2: they had to kill themselves, but they did it. They
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  Speaker 2: went and grabbed the terrorists. They just outnumbered the terrorists
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  Speaker 2: and crashed the plane so it never got to Washington, D.C.
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  Speaker 2: That kind of heroism that took place on that day.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one of our great hospital systems, Northwell, huge
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  Speaker 2: hospital systems, now reporting that... There's been a huge explosion
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  Speaker 2: in 9-11 cancer just over the last two or three years.
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  Speaker 2: For many people, it was a slow motion kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people, of course, got all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: illness from 9-11. But Northwell's saying there's been an explosion
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  Speaker 2: of it in the last couple of years. It took
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  Speaker 2: 25 years to show up in some people. But, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we've got a lot of people to talk to about 9-11,
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  Speaker 2: about that day. The day began early today. St. Patrick's
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  Speaker 2: Cathedral had a memorial service, special service. The ex-presidents were
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  Speaker 2: all there, Clinton, Obama, Bush. Mamdani was there, the new,
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  Speaker 2: he's not the cardinal yet, but the new archbishop, Ronald Hicks,
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  Speaker 2: invited Mamdani. Hicks, of course, a very left-wing guy, probably
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  Speaker 2: a Mamdani supporter, but a nice ceremony this morning. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we'll take some calls next. 800-321-0710. A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: have memories of that day.
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  Speaker 1: 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 2: Mark Simone here on the 25th anniversary of 9-11 at 710WOR.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Simone Show on 710WOR. Well, it's
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  Speaker 2: the 25th anniversary of 9-11. It's a very, very, very.
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  Speaker 2: Sad day. I hate this day every year, looking back
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  Speaker 2: and remembering. But you need to do it. Let's take
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  Speaker 2: some calls because people have a lot of memories and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of thoughts on 9-11. Let's go to Jennifer
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  Speaker 2: in New York. Jennifer, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning. Nice to speak with you. I've been
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  Speaker 4: listening to you for years. I'm a Rush Limbaugh baby,
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  Speaker 4: Bob Grant, mom and dad, big influence, Brooklyn born and raised.
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  Speaker 4: I'm on my way to a memorial as we speak
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  Speaker 4: in Washingtonville, New York, where a large community of retired
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  Speaker 4: and active firemen and police reside, and a large number
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  Speaker 4: were killed on 9-11 from FD. That day is something...
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  Speaker 4: That strikes a chord in my heart, makes me cry
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  Speaker 4: when I talk about it. But that day made me
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  Speaker 4: become a first responder and become a New York City
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  Speaker 4: police detective to this day. Wow. Followed my father's footsteps
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  Speaker 4: as a first responder, retired FD. That day, I was
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  Speaker 4: on my way to college at SUNY Purchase. And I
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  Speaker 4: just crossed the Tappan Zee going to school thinking I
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  Speaker 4: was going to be a teacher. God help us. Thank
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  Speaker 4: God I made the right choice today.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations.
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  Speaker 4: See what's going on in the teaching world as we speak.
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  Speaker 4: You know, students not knowing about 9-11 hurts my soul.
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  Speaker 4: But that day, driving home in this communal daze of
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  Speaker 4: people horrified and frightened together, driving up the New York
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  Speaker 4: City roadways and New York State Thruway to get back home,
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  Speaker 4: I remember seeing the convoy from West Point coming down
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  Speaker 4: the New York State Thruway and My heart leapt out,
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  Speaker 4: and I knew in that moment I needed to change
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  Speaker 4: my life trajectory, and I wanted to help. The only
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  Speaker 4: way I knew how was to become a first responder.
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  Speaker 4: That day inspired me, the loss of those.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Jennifer.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry to get emotional.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I understand. But, Jennifer.
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  Speaker 4: I want people to have that passion, the care, and
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  Speaker 4: not forget the Morris Smiths, the Peter Frums. responders killed
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  Speaker 4: and that, hey, I want kids to know about them
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  Speaker 4: and not be dismissed by the defund the police and
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  Speaker 4: the rioters and the poison that's out there where people's
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  Speaker 4: minds are being raked and implanted with false ideas. And
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  Speaker 4: to understand the true tragedy but beauty of 9-11 that
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  Speaker 4: it brought so many together in such horror. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: sorry to get emotional. I'm very passionate. It's the Irish
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  Speaker 4: in me. But I've been wanting to call and trying
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  Speaker 4: to get through to you for a long time, but
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  Speaker 4: you're a popular guy. But I'm so grateful to actually
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  Speaker 4: get through on this day.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're grateful you got through. Jennifer, best call of
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  Speaker 2: the day, maybe of the year, and keep up the
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  Speaker 2: good work. I think you should think about running for
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  Speaker 2: mayor one day. You're a very articulate woman.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, and please give my best to all those
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  Speaker 4: you need to meet that lost loved ones on this day.
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  Speaker 4: I'll always have them in my prayers. Thank you so
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  Speaker 4: much for your time, and God bless America.
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer, very proud to have you in our audience. Call
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  Speaker 2: us again. Take care. Let's go to Dr. Bob in
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  Speaker 2: Long Island. Dr. Bob's a great surgeon. Dr. Bob, how
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  Speaker 2: are you?
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  Speaker 6: I'm good, Mark. Yeah, that was a great call that
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  Speaker 6: just preceded me, and I called really just to honor Dr.
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  Speaker 6: Someone I knew very well, she was really a sister
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  Speaker 6: to me, Captain Kathy Mazza, who I knew as a
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  Speaker 6: cardiovascular scrub nurse at LIJ and then St. Francis Hospital.
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  Speaker 6: Her husband was a New York City policeman and detective,
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  Speaker 6: and she decided to become a Port Authority policewoman. And
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  Speaker 6: for ten years, for nine years, she worked in my
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  Speaker 6: office one day a week just to see the patients
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  Speaker 6: that we had operated on over the years, and she
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  Speaker 6: was a very special person. nurse, but then she became
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  Speaker 6: a Port Authority policewoman and then the first woman captain
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  Speaker 6: in the Port Authority Police Department at the 10th year
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  Speaker 6: and was the commandant at the police academy over in
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  Speaker 6: New Jersey on 9-11. I often asked her, didn't she
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  Speaker 6: feel naked without a gun? She always had a gun
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  Speaker 6: at her ankle. I didn't realize it even in my office.
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  Speaker 6: On that day, she came over with the new recruits
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  Speaker 6: from New Jersey in a van, 9-11, and went up
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  Speaker 6: into the buildings, into the South Tower, and then brought
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  Speaker 6: down people into the lobby. She saw that the revolving
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  Speaker 6: glass doors weren't letting people through fast enough, so she
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  Speaker 6: got people away from the door, shut out the windows
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  Speaker 6: so people could stream out, and she saved countless lives
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  Speaker 6: just with that. She went back up into the building,
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  Speaker 6: and they found her badge and remains about a month later.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: I called to honor her. She was an exceptional person,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: and Say her name again. Captain Kathy Mazza.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Kathy Mazza. All right.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Deloach was her married last name, but that's an extremely
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: special person.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Incredible.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: All right, Dr. Bob, great call. Thanks for calling. A
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: lot of heroes that day. Let's go to John in
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Long Beach. John, how are you doing?
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Fine.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: Good morning, Mark.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: You were talking about the World Trade Center earlier yesterday.
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: And I remember there was a lawsuit or something, and
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: they were trying to determine whether it was one event
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: or two events. And I thought that that was the
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: big issue, not whether somebody– but I thought there was
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: coverage under the policy. You said there was no coverage. Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: but I'm not sure.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just couldn't get the insurance companies to pay.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: They just couldn't pay the claim. And then Governor Eliot Spitzer,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Eliot Spitzer became governor, and he just finally had to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: threaten the insurance companies that they would be banned from
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: doing business in New York if they didn't pay that claim.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Isaac in Rockland. Isaac, how are you doing?
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: Hi, Mark. Long-time listener.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, I see.
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: Just remembering my experience. So I was actually right underneath
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: the building when the plane hit it. I worked in
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: the Mercantile Exchange Building in the World Financial Center. When
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: the second plane, the first plane hit, I was still
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: in the train. I got out of the train, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: I was walking up to the building when the plane
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: came from the other side. We all ran down the block,
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: and then.
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: We're all sitting on the street. I was, you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: remember where the old Sims.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Was over there?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Cy Sims.
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: It was to the, you know, right.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: So you started running.
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: Even then, people were.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: You started running from the building?
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: Well, when the plane hit it, it looked at that
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: famous picture of the explosion in the building. I was
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: like by the foot of the building. We all ran
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: down the block just to get away from it.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: And then we were just standing around. No one knew
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: what to do. Everyone was standing on the streets.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: And when the building did come, when the first building
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: came down, so we saw a big cloud, and it
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: looked like smoke. It was dust and debris flying down
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: the streets. And everyone started running again. It was like
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: a panic.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, great call, Isaac. Thanks for calling. Yeah,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: everybody remembers this. Remember that video of the smoke, the
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: cloud coming and people running from that cloud? Let's go
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to Pat in Westchester. Pat, what do you want to say?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, yes. I was on my way to the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: office on 9-11, and I'm crossing Fifth Avenue right in
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: front of Lord & Taylor. Remember the old Lord & Taylor?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 38.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: And I look up, and I literally see the plane
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: in the sky. And I said to myself, gee, what
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the hell is going on? I bet you there's a
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: problem at LaGuardia, and they're rerouting planes. Because I said,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you know, I was in that area crossing the street,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: you know, right around midtown Manhattan. And I said, I'd
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: never seen a plane flying so low right over Fifth Avenue.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: So literally, that was the plane that crashed into the
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: World Trade Center.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: All right. Pat, thanks for calling. A lot of memories
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that day from a lot of people. We'll take some
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: more calls a little later on. Warner Wolf saw the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: whole thing. He was looking out his window. He lived
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: way downtown with a view of the World Trade Center.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: He was live that morning with Imus. We'll talk to
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: him next. We'll talk to Warner next with some great stories.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: So don't go away. It's the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Mark Simone here on 710WOR.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: On 710WOR. Mark Simone. The Mark Simone Show.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the 25th anniversary of September 11th. 25 years later,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: it's hard to believe. That morning, Imus was on the air.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Of course, Warner Wolf, big part of the Imus show,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: but was not on that morning. but suddenly became a
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: big part of that show. And of course the legendary sportscaster, uh,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the best TV sportscaster of all. And he's with us
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: right now. Warner Wolf. How are you?
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: All right. Thank you very much, Mark. Yeah. Um, I
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: wasn't on, um, I miss that morning because I, uh,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: I only did Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Oh, and Sid
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Rosenberg did Tuesday and Thursday. Oh, so of course this
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: was a Tuesday.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, um, But you lived downtown.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we lived on North Moore Street.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: If you call that living, but okay.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: That was a great neighborhood.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where John F. Kennedy Jr. lived, David Letterman
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: lived on that street.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: Right across the street, he lived, yeah. Other people, Nathan Lane,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Richard Widmark, De Niro.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: But I don't know that they were all there on... 9-11. Anyway, um,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: you know, the thing is, I just say over and
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: over again, when you see a tragic event, you can
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: see it in the movies, you can see it later
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: on television. When you see it live, it just, it
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: sticks in your head, I mean, to this day. And, uh,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: You know, you say it's something you want to forget,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: but you can't forget it, especially if you see it live.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: And the first inclination was, my wife and I were
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: sleeping late that morning. It was about 945, 845.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: And this plane went right over, we lived on the
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: top floor, and this plane went, so close to our roof.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I said, what the heck?
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: What is that?
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was like a monster plane going to
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: land on your roof. And of course, that was the
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: first plane. And then moments later, it hit the tower.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: And gosh, we opened the blinds. Our blinds weren't open.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: We said, oh, look.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: He just made a hole in the tower. And we
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: My first thought was, in 1945, a poor bomber, a U.S. bomber,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I think it was a B-52, hit the Empire State Building.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by accident.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Because there were fog.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: And he was misguided. I said, gee, that must be
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: the same case. But then you could see, oh, wait
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: a minute. And now, oh, my gosh. I think the
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: worst sight was seeing people... jumping out of the window
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: that was oh my gosh that was just horrible.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: And then uh you called imus who was live on
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the air at the.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Time right oh yeah i did yeah i think.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: We have that you want to hear it sure yeah
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: this is it this is the i miss the morning
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: show that that morning msnbc has just flashed on my
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: screen it looks like there is a A plane has
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: crashed into the World Trade Center? We got Warner on
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the phone.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: He's looking at it right now.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: Warner?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Hi, man. What's the deal?
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Something hit the World Trade Center.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I think it was a plane.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: I heard it right over my head, and the explosion
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: rocked the building.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: And I'm looking at it right now. The smoke is
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: just bellowing out of the World Trade Center.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's horrible.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: So... Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, here's one more as you learn more. Sure
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: you have any other information, Mark, from anybody?
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Not yet.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: We're waiting.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Warner's got actually the breaking news here.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was the plane. I heard it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: I heard the plane. I heard it. I said, my
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: wife was close. And that sounds awful low.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And then, boom!
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so at that time, everybody still thought it was
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: an accident. And then.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Then you realize, oh, my gosh, it wasn't.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Were you looking out when you saw the building collapse?
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I went to the roof right after that, and
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: that was horrible. Saw them both collapse. My gosh, I
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: think that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the first building collapsed, and I remember
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I'm watching television in the Today show. He said, well,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: from now on, there'll just be one World Trade Center tower.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: But when it collapsed, listen to this. This is you.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: With Imus.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Warner?
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: It's gone.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: What? It's gone.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: What's gone?
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: The tower.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: It's gone.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: It's gone.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: It collapsed. It's gone.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: It's not there.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: The whole tower.
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: The whole tower.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: It's gone.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: There's only one tower.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: This is horrible.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: It's gone.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: It's not there. It's like it disappeared. It just collapsed.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. When that happens, that's when the smoke started coming, right? Oh,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: my gosh.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: The bellowing smoke, it was black. And you could see
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: the smoke was going into, at that time, New Jersey.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: And you could start to smell something. Wait a minute,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: this isn't right. And then later, we had a balcony
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: on this top floor. I'm talking about weeks later, you
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: could still smell this unusual odor. I always try to
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: describe it as a sweet and sour odor. It wasn't healthy.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: And they were telling us that it's nothing. But I
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: think everyone in the neighborhood knew, wait a minute, this
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: is not normal. And we knew something was wrong. You
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: were inhaling the burning material and pesticides. It just, it
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: was a terrible scene.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: But you continued to live there. You went back to
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: that area.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, we lived there four more years.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Thank goodness you're okay.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: It was a good neighborhood. You could say it was
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: never the same, and I'm sure many people feel that
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: way now.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: But you remember after that, they said, nobody will ever
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: live downtown again. Nobody will ever come down here again.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: It became the hottest neighborhood in the world after that.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of famous people lived down there.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: So what made you finally move uptown, back to midtown?
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: You know what? My wife always had this dream that
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: there was going to be a, you know, if there
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: was ever a flood down there, you would really be
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: wiped out. And she was afraid of that. So we did.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: We moved uptown.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Wasn't wrong. We saw that with Hurricane Sandy. A lot
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: of it flooded.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So. Wow. So I'll tell you, you know, I'm
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: thinking the similarities between 9-11 and Pearl Harbor.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: December 7th, 1941, both almost 3,000 people killed. And I'm
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: sure 25 years after Pearl Harbor, which would have been 1966,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: people were saying the same thing and saying, reminiscing like
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: we are today.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, I checked on it this week, calling people
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: in Hawaii. Apparently, 85 years later, they still do it
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: every year. It's a big event every year.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: No kidding.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: Well, that's good.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: That's nice.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And this will be the first year they'll do it
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: without a single survivor alive.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, my.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, all those people buried underneath it. Yeah. It was
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: the Arizona, I think.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Warner Wolf, great having you with us. Thanks
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: for the insight into that day.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Mark. I just hope that young kids, think
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: about it, if a kid was only born after 2001,
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: if he's 10 years old now, big deal, hopefully They'll
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: just keep it alive in the schools. And, you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: there's one other thing. I'll never forget, I saw a, man,
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: one of the first transponders afterwards, and everybody was just
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: covered with smoke and dirt. And he said, you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: it's not only the people that were killed, He said
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: it's the ripple effect of 3,000 people killed, of families
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: and friends. And he was right. I mean, it just extends.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, 3,000 are dead, but it did extend. There
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: is a ripple effect still.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Well, Warner Wolf, great talking to you. We'll have you
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: back under normal circumstances.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, Mark.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Thanks for all the insight. Take care. The great. Warner Wolf,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Mark Simone here on the 25th anniversary of 9-11 on 710WOR.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: From the WOR LifeVac Studios, The Mark Simone Show.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Well, it's 25 years later. 9-11, September 11, 2001. It's
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: 25 years later. There was also a great ceremony at
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the Pentagon. It's still underway. President Trump spoke there. A
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: little earlier this morning, talking about the strength and spirit
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: of America, how it continues 25 years later. Well, there's
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of 9-11 stuff throughout the day. There'll be
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: a bunch of events tonight. I'm going to the George
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Pataki gala dinner tonight. So it's something we never, ever, ever,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: ever forget. As I said, in Pearl Harbor, it's 85
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: years later, and they still do this every December 7th. Otherwise,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: it'll be a nice day. It'll be 80 and sunny,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and it'll be like that for a couple of days.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Saturday night, late, very late. There'll be some rain. Sunday morning,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: some rain. But otherwise, weather-wise, a good weekend coming up.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: We'll be back. We've got one more hour to go
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and a lot to get to right here in the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: next hour. Mark Simone on 710WOR.