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How to Become a Children's Book Author (From Helicopter Pilot to Published Author) · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

2:58
Hi,
2:58
I
2:58
am
2:58
Darcy
2:59
Gyant
2:59
and
3:00
I
3:00
am
3:00
the
3:00
author
3:01
of
3:01
the
3:02
Coast
3:03
Guard
3:03
Adventures
3:03
of
3:04
Dolphin
3:04
Gwen
3:05
series.
3:06
The
3:07
first
3:07
book
3:07
in
3:07
that
3:07
series
3:08
is
3:08
into
3:08
the
3:09
Storm.
3:10
Thanks,
3:10
Darcy,
3:11
for
3:11
being
3:12
a
3:12
guest
3:12
on
3:12
the
3:13
Adventures
3:13
in
3:13
the
3:13
Heart
3:14
of
3:14
Children's
3:15
Book
3:15
Authors.
3:16
It's
3:16
fantastic
3:17
to
3:17
interview
3:18
another
3:18
grandparent.
3:19
Had
3:20
some
3:20
influence
3:21
from
3:21
your
3:21
granddaughter
3:22
as
3:23
I
3:23
did
3:23
with
3:23
mine.
3:23
My
3:24
granddaughter
3:24
actually
3:25
is
3:25
a
3:25
co
3:25
author
3:26
in
3:26
our
3:26
book.
3:27
I'd
3:27
love
3:28
to
3:28
discuss
3:29
the
3:30
inspiration
3:31
behind
3:31
your
3:32
book
3:32
and
3:32
the
3:32
origin
3:33
story.
3:34
How
3:34
did
3:34
this
3:34
all
3:35
come
3:35
to
3:35
life
3:35
and
3:36
what's
3:36
the
3:36
story
3:37
behind
3:37
the
3:37
story
3:38
for
3:38
your
3:38
first
3:38
book?
3:39
Well,
3:40
thanks
3:40
for
3:40
asking
3:40
that.
3:41
And
3:41
to
3:41
tell
3:42
you
3:42
the
3:42
story
3:43
behind
3:43
this
3:43
story,
3:44
I've
3:44
got
3:44
to
3:44
go
3:44
back
3:45
a
3:45
little
3:45
bit,
3:46
all
3:46
the
3:46
way
3:46
back
3:46
to
3:47
the
3:47
Revolutionary
3:48
War.
3:48
And
3:49
the
3:49
reason
3:50
for
3:50
that
3:50
is
3:50
I'm
3:51
a
3:51
seventh
3:51
generation
3:52
descendant
3:53
of.
3:53
Of
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a
3:54
Revolutionary
3:55
War
3:55
veteran.
3:56
That
3:56
veteran,
3:57
my
3:57
great,
3:57
great,
3:58
great,
3:58
great
3:58
grandfather
3:59
was
3:59
Luke
4:00
Gyant
4:00
and
4:01
he
4:01
immigrated
4:02
from
4:02
England
4:03
to
4:04
the
4:04
colonies
4:05
back
4:05
then
4:06
as
4:06
a
4:06
British
4:06
soldier,
4:07
served
4:08
his
4:08
time,
4:08
got
4:09
out
4:09
of
4:09
the
4:09
British
4:10
army
4:11
and
4:12
settled
4:12
in
4:12
the
4:13
New
4:13
World
4:13
in
4:13
the
4:13
colonies.
4:14
And
4:15
then,
4:15
and
4:15
then
4:16
the
4:16
revolution
4:16
started
4:17
and
4:17
he
4:17
joined
4:18
the
4:18
rebels
4:19
to,
4:19
to
4:19
fight
4:19
against
4:20
England
4:20
for
4:20
independence.
4:21
A
4:22
few
4:22
years
4:22
ago,
4:22
I
4:23
did
4:23
some
4:23
research
4:24
trying
4:24
to
4:24
find
4:24
out
4:25
information
4:25
about
4:26
Luke
4:26
Gyant,
4:27
my
4:27
great
4:27
grandfather.
4:28
And
4:28
we
4:29
only
4:29
had
4:29
one
4:30
document
4:30
that,
4:31
that
4:31
documented
4:32
his
4:33
military
4:33
history.
4:34
And
4:34
he
4:34
lived
4:35
to
4:35
be
4:35
83
4:35
years
4:36
old.
4:36
I
4:36
think
4:36
they
4:37
were
4:37
probably
4:37
passing
4:37
away
4:38
around
4:38
40
4:39
or
4:39
50
4:39
at
4:39
the
4:39
time.
4:40
Oh,
4:40
oh
4:41
yeah.
4:41
And
4:41
he
4:41
was
4:42
pretty
4:42
seriously
4:42
wounded
4:43
during
4:43
the
4:43
Revolutionary
4:44
War,
4:45
but
4:45
he
4:45
survived
4:46
that.
4:46
And
4:46
he
4:46
was
4:46
actually
4:47
at
4:47
the
4:47
final
4:48
major
4:49
battle
4:49
of
4:49
the
4:50
Revolutionary
4:50
War
4:50
at
4:51
the
4:51
Battle
4:51
of
4:51
Yorktown.
4:52
So
4:52
there's
4:53
a
4:53
lot
4:53
of
4:53
information
4:54
in
4:54
this
4:54
one
4:54
document.
4:55
But
4:56
other
4:56
than
4:56
that,
4:57
we
4:57
don't
4:57
know
4:57
anything
4:58
about
4:58
him.
4:58
We
4:59
know
4:59
where
4:59
he
4:59
was
4:59
born,
5:00
when
5:01
he
5:01
was
5:01
born,
5:02
and
5:02
when
5:02
he
5:02
died
5:03
or
5:03
at
5:03
least
5:03
when
5:04
this
5:04
document
5:04
was
5:05
filled
5:05
out.
5:05
But
5:06
I
5:06
always
5:07
wondered,
5:07
well,
5:08
what,
5:08
I
5:09
mean,
5:09
what
5:09
prompted
5:10
him
5:10
to
5:11
join
5:12
the
5:12
British
5:12
Army?
5:13
Why
5:13
did
5:13
he
5:13
stay
5:14
in
5:14
the
5:14
US
5:14
what
5:14
did.
5:15
Or
5:15
in
5:15
the
5:15
colonies,
5:16
which
5:16
eventually
5:17
became
5:17
the
5:17
United
5:17
States.
5:17
And
5:18
then
5:18
what
5:18
did
5:19
he
5:19
do?
5:19
We,
5:20
my
5:20
grandparents
5:21
did
5:21
some
5:21
genealogy
5:22
and
5:22
they
5:22
were
5:22
able
5:22
to
5:22
track
5:23
down
5:23
our
5:24
relationship
5:24
and
5:25
his
5:25
kids
5:25
and
5:25
all
5:26
that.
5:26
But
5:26
there
5:27
wasn't
5:27
really
5:27
any
5:28
information
5:28
about
5:29
what
5:29
life
5:29
was
5:30
like
5:30
with
5:30
them
5:30
or,
5:31
you
5:31
know,
5:31
anything
5:31
like
5:32
that.
5:32
He
5:32
hadn't,
5:32
didn't
5:33
leave
5:33
any
5:34
memoirs,
5:34
didn't
5:35
leave
5:35
any
5:35
letters
5:36
or
5:36
anything
5:36
like
5:36
that.
5:37
And
5:37
I
5:37
always
5:37
wish
5:38
he'd
5:38
had
5:38
flash
5:39
forward
5:39
about
5:39
200
5:40
years.
5:40
And
5:41
my
5:41
granddaughter
5:42
was
5:42
born
5:43
about
5:43
five
5:44
years
5:44
ago.
5:45
And
5:46
I
5:46
started
5:46
thinking,
5:46
boy,
5:47
it'd
5:47
be
5:47
really
5:47
nice
5:48
to
5:48
pass
5:49
down
5:49
to
5:49
my
5:50
Granddaughter
5:51
and
5:51
eventually
5:52
her
5:52
kids
5:53
and
5:53
her
5:53
grandchildren,
5:54
some
5:55
information
5:55
about
5:56
her
5:57
grandpa.
5:58
And
5:58
at
5:59
the
5:59
time
5:59
I
6:00
wrote
6:00
a
6:00
memoir.
6:01
It
6:01
was
6:01
a
6:01
children's
6:02
book,
6:02
but
6:02
it
6:02
was
6:02
just
6:02
a
6:03
memoir
6:03
with
6:03
a
6:03
bunch
6:03
of
6:03
stories
6:04
from
6:04
my
6:05
time
6:05
in
6:05
the
6:05
military
6:06
and
6:06
growing
6:06
up
6:06
as
6:07
a
6:07
kid
6:07
and
6:08
what
6:08
I
6:09
do
6:09
now
6:09
and
6:09
all
6:10
that.
6:10
And
6:10
I
6:10
put
6:10
it
6:10
into
6:10
a
6:11
memoir
6:12
and
6:12
for
6:13
someday,
6:13
you
6:13
know,
6:13
when
6:14
she
6:14
get.
6:14
Gets
6:14
older,
6:15
she
6:15
might
6:15
find
6:15
it
6:15
interesting.
6:16
But
6:16
then
6:17
somebody
6:17
suggested,
6:18
well,
6:18
why
6:18
wait
6:19
until
6:19
she's
6:19
older
6:20
for
6:20
this
6:21
for
6:21
to
6:21
share
6:22
my
6:22
stories
6:22
with
6:22
her.
6:23
And
6:23
they
6:23
suggested
6:24
I
6:24
write
6:24
a
6:25
children's
6:25
book.
6:26
So
6:26
I
6:27
took
6:27
one
6:27
of
6:27
my
6:28
stories
6:29
as
6:29
a
6:29
Coast
6:30
Guard,
6:31
Coast
6:31
Guard
6:31
helicopter
6:32
pilot.
6:32
I
6:32
he
6:32
spent
6:33
25
6:33
years
6:33
in
6:33
the.
6:34
In
6:34
the
6:34
military,
6:35
most
6:35
of
6:35
it
6:35
in
6:35
the
6:35
Coast
6:36
Guard.
6:36
And
6:36
I
6:36
did
6:37
search
6:37
and
6:37
rescue.
6:38
I
6:38
took
6:38
one
6:38
of
6:39
my
6:39
stories
6:40
and
6:41
developed
6:41
it
6:41
into
6:42
a
6:42
children's
6:42
book.
6:43
That.
6:43
That
6:43
was
6:44
my
6:44
first
6:44
children's
6:45
book,
6:45
into
6:45
the
6:45
Storm.
6:46
It's
6:47
a
6:47
retelling
6:47
of
6:48
an
6:48
actual
6:49
search
6:49
and
6:49
rescue
6:50
that
6:50
I
6:50
did
6:50
as
6:50
a
6:51
pilot.
6:52
And.
6:52
But
6:52
it's
6:53
told
6:53
in
6:53
a
6:53
way
6:53
that
6:53
the
6:54
kids.
6:54
Kids
6:54
would
6:55
appreciate
6:55
it.
6:55
I
6:55
shortened
6:56
it
6:56
up
6:56
a
6:56
little
6:56
bit
6:57
for
6:57
their
6:57
attention
6:58
span.
6:58
And.
6:59
And
6:59
when
7:00
I
7:00
was
7:00
starting
7:00
to
7:00
think
7:01
about,
7:01
okay,
7:01
well,
7:01
how
7:01
do
7:01
I
7:02
write
7:02
a
7:03
children's
7:03
book?
7:03
I
7:03
did
7:04
a
7:04
lot
7:04
of
7:04
research.
7:05
I'd
7:05
never
7:06
written
7:06
a
7:06
children's
7:07
book
7:07
before,
7:08
and
7:08
before
7:08
I
7:08
wrote
7:09
my
7:09
memoir,
7:09
I'd
7:09
never
7:10
written
7:10
anything
7:10
basically
7:11
other
7:11
than
7:11
when
7:12
I
7:12
had
7:12
to
7:13
on
7:13
my
7:13
job.
7:14
But
7:14
I
7:14
did
7:14
a
7:14
lot
7:14
of
7:15
research
7:15
and
7:16
put
7:16
together
7:16
this
7:17
first
7:18
story.
7:18
And
7:19
I
7:19
knew
7:19
to
7:19
relate
7:19
to
7:20
the
7:20
kids
7:21
through
7:21
my
7:21
research
7:22
and
7:22
just
7:22
looking
7:22
at
7:23
other
7:23
children's
7:23
books,
7:24
I
7:24
needed
7:24
to
7:25
have
7:25
a
7:25
character,
7:26
characters
7:26
that
7:27
they
7:27
could
7:27
relate
7:27
to.
7:28
So
7:28
I
7:28
took
7:28
the
7:29
helicopter
7:30
that
7:30
I
7:30
used
7:31
to
7:31
fly
7:31
and
7:31
flew
7:32
on
7:32
the
7:32
missions
7:32
and
7:33
gave
7:33
it
7:33
eyes
7:34
and
7:34
a
7:34
mouth
7:34
and
7:35
gave
7:35
it
7:35
a
7:35
personality.
7:36
So
7:36
I
7:36
made
7:36
it
7:36
a
7:36
character
7:37
of.
7:38
Of
7:38
the
7:38
book.
7:38
And
7:39
the
7:39
pilot
7:40
is
7:40
a
7:40
female
7:41
pilot.
7:41
And
7:41
I
7:41
decided
7:42
to
7:42
go
7:42
with
7:42
that
7:43
because
7:43
I
7:43
wanted
7:43
my
7:44
granddaughter
7:44
to
7:44
be
7:44
able
7:44
to
7:45
have
7:45
a
7:46
female
7:46
that
7:47
she
7:47
could
7:48
emulate
7:48
or
7:48
look
7:49
up
7:49
to
7:49
have
7:49
as
7:49
a
7:50
role
7:50
model
7:50
because
7:51
she's
7:51
going
7:51
to
7:51
know
7:52
her
7:52
grandpa
7:52
used
7:53
to
7:53
be
7:53
a
7:53
helicopter
7:53
pilot.
7:54
But
7:54
I
7:54
wanted
7:54
her
7:55
to
7:55
know
7:55
that,
7:55
hey,
7:56
girls,
7:56
women
7:56
can
7:57
be
7:57
pilots
7:58
also.
7:58
So
7:59
that
7:59
was
7:59
the
8:00
reason
8:01
behind
8:01
that.
8:02
So
8:02
my
8:02
granddaughter
8:03
was
8:03
basically
8:04
an
8:04
inspiration
8:05
to
8:05
starting
8:06
out
8:07
writing
8:08
books.
8:08
What's
8:09
your
8:09
granddaughter's
8:09
name?
8:10
Her
8:11
name
8:11
is
8:11
Gwyneth.
8:12
And
8:12
the
8:13
name
8:13
of
8:13
the
8:14
character,
8:15
the
8:15
pilot
8:15
in
8:15
my
8:16
children's
8:16
book
8:16
series
8:17
is
8:17
Gwen.
8:18
So
8:19
it's
8:19
named
8:20
after
8:20
my
8:20
granddaughter.
8:21
Fantastic.
8:22
And
8:22
I
8:22
tell
8:23
the
8:23
story,
8:23
actually
8:24
the.
8:24
If
8:25
you
8:25
noticed,
8:26
with
8:26
caboose,
8:27
it's
8:27
Spelled
8:27
with
8:27
a
8:28
K.
8:28
Right.
8:29
And
8:29
my
8:30
co
8:30
author
8:31
and
8:31
my
8:31
granddaughter,
8:32
her
8:33
name
8:33
is
8:33
Kira,
8:34
we
8:34
took
8:34
the
8:35
K
8:35
and
8:36
of
8:36
course
8:36
substituted
8:37
the
8:37
K
8:38
in
8:38
caboose
8:39
from
8:39
a
8:39
C
8:40
to
8:40
a
8:40
K.
8:40
And
8:41
that's
8:41
how
8:41
we
8:41
did
8:41
that
8:42
and
8:43
came
8:43
up
8:43
with
8:43
the,
8:44
with
8:44
the
8:44
name
8:44
caboose.
8:45
I
8:45
just
8:46
thought
8:46
I'd
8:46
share
8:46
that
8:46
with
8:47
you
8:47
as
8:47
a
8:48
proud
8:48
grandfather.
8:49
And
8:50
it's
8:50
as
8:50
nice
8:51
as
8:51
an
8:51
independent
8:52
author
8:53
where
8:53
you
8:53
don't
8:53
have
8:54
a
8:54
publisher
8:55
or
8:55
editors
8:56
telling
8:56
you
8:56
what
8:56
you
8:57
can
8:57
and
8:57
can't
8:57
write
8:58
as
8:58
independents.
8:59
We
8:59
can,
8:59
we
9:00
can
9:00
come
9:00
up
9:01
with
9:01
our
9:01
own
9:01
names.
9:01
We
9:02
can
9:02
do
9:02
it
9:02
how
9:02
we
9:02
want
9:03
to
9:03
do
9:03
it.
9:03
So.
9:04
Absolutely.
9:05
If
9:05
you
9:05
don't
9:06
mind
9:06
me
9:06
asking,
9:06
because
9:07
that
9:08
really
9:08
leads
9:08
me
9:08
into
9:09
my
9:09
next
9:09
question
9:10
anyway,
9:10
so
9:10
I
9:11
might
9:11
as
9:11
well
9:11
use
9:12
this
9:12
as
9:12
a
9:12
perfect
9:13
segue,
9:14
your
9:14
publishing
9:15
approach.
9:15
And
9:15
I
9:16
share
9:16
this
9:17
for
9:17
aspiring,
9:18
not
9:18
only
9:18
aspiring
9:19
authors,
9:19
but
9:20
also
9:20
for
9:21
readers
9:22
to
9:22
understand
9:23
the
9:23
challenges
9:24
as
9:24
a
9:24
children's
9:25
book
9:25
author.
9:26
When
9:26
I
9:27
first
9:27
started,
9:28
and
9:28
I'm
9:28
sure
9:28
you,
9:29
you're
9:29
going
9:29
to
9:29
tell
9:29
us
9:29
the
9:30
same
9:30
story,
9:31
I
9:31
found
9:31
out
9:31
there
9:32
was
9:32
traditional
9:33
publishing,
9:34
there
9:34
was
9:34
self
9:35
publishing.
9:36
As
9:36
I
9:36
did
9:36
more
9:37
and
9:37
more
9:37
research,
9:37
I
9:38
found
9:38
out
9:38
about
9:39
hybrid
9:40
publishing,
9:40
which
9:40
is
9:41
almost
9:41
like
9:41
a
9:41
la
9:42
carte.
9:42
So
9:43
can
9:43
you
9:43
tell
9:43
us
9:43
your
9:44
publishing
9:44
approach
9:45
and
9:45
why
9:45
you
9:45
took
9:46
that
9:46
approach?
9:47
My
9:47
first
9:47
experience
9:48
with
9:49
writing
9:49
was
9:50
my
9:50
memoir.
9:51
And
9:51
I
9:51
looked
9:51
at
9:51
all,
9:52
all
9:52
the
9:52
methods
9:53
available
9:54
pro,
9:54
you
9:54
know,
9:55
from
9:55
traditional
9:56
down
9:56
to
9:57
self
9:57
and
9:57
hybrids.
9:58
And
9:59
I
9:59
didn't
10:00
want
10:00
to
10:00
spend
10:00
a
10:00
whole
10:00
lot
10:01
of
10:01
time
10:01
waiting
10:02
for
10:02
a
10:02
traditional
10:03
publisher
10:04
to
10:04
decide
10:05
that
10:05
I
10:06
was
10:06
worthy
10:06
and
10:07
to
10:07
go
10:07
through
10:07
that
10:08
whole
10:08
process
10:09
of
10:09
agents
10:10
and
10:10
all
10:10
that.
10:10
I
10:10
was
10:11
new
10:11
to
10:11
the,
10:11
the
10:11
game.
10:12
I've
10:12
never
10:12
written
10:13
anything.
10:13
My
10:14
education
10:14
is
10:14
in
10:15
aeronautics,
10:15
so
10:16
it
10:16
has
10:17
nothing
10:17
to
10:17
do
10:17
with
10:18
writing.
10:18
I
10:19
did
10:19
some
10:19
research
10:20
and
10:20
I
10:20
settled
10:21
on
10:21
a
10:21
hybrid
10:22
for
10:22
my
10:22
memoir
10:23
and
10:23
they
10:24
helped
10:24
me
10:24
a
10:24
lot
10:25
through
10:25
that
10:25
process.
10:26
When
10:26
I
10:27
decided
10:27
to
10:27
write
10:28
my
10:29
children's
10:29
book,
10:30
I
10:31
decided
10:31
to
10:32
go
10:32
it
10:32
alone,
10:32
did
10:33
again
10:33
some
10:33
more
10:34
research
10:34
as
10:34
the
10:34
pros
10:35
and
10:35
cons,
10:36
and
10:36
decided,
10:37
okay,
10:37
I'm
10:38
learning
10:38
enough
10:38
here
10:39
to
10:39
go
10:40
self
10:40
published
10:41
independently.
10:42
And
10:43
of
10:43
course
10:43
that's
10:44
a
10:44
steep
10:44
learning
10:45
curve,
10:45
as
10:45
you
10:46
know,
10:46
to,
10:46
you
10:47
bet
10:47
learn
10:47
all
10:47
the
10:48
ins
10:48
and
10:48
outs
10:48
of
10:49
self
10:49
publishing
10:50
and
10:51
KDP
10:51
and
10:51
IngramSpark
10:52
and
10:53
you
10:53
know,
10:53
all
10:53
these
10:53
things
10:53
that
10:54
you
10:54
and
10:54
I
10:54
are
10:54
familiar
10:55
with
10:55
in
10:55
the,
10:55
in
10:56
the
10:56
industry.
10:56
In
10:56
the
10:56
process.
10:57
There
10:57
was
10:57
a
10:57
steep
10:58
learning
10:58
curve
10:58
in
10:59
my
10:59
first
10:59
book,
11:00
the
11:00
into
11:00
the
11:00
storm
11:01
of
11:01
this
11:01
children's
11:02
book
11:02
series.
11:03
But
11:03
then
11:03
it
11:03
got
11:03
easier.
11:04
I've
11:04
gotten,
11:04
I'm
11:05
about
11:05
ready
11:06
to
11:06
publish
11:06
my
11:07
fourth
11:07
children's
11:07
book
11:08
here.
11:08
Congratulations.
11:09
That's
11:10
phenomenal.
11:10
And
11:11
each
11:11
time
11:11
it's
11:11
gotten
11:12
Quicker
11:12
and
11:13
easier
11:14
because
11:14
now
11:14
I
11:14
know
11:15
how
11:15
the
11:15
process
11:16
works.
11:16
Are
11:16
you
11:16
still
11:17
using
11:17
print
11:18
on
11:18
demand,
11:18
basically,
11:19
or
11:20
have
11:20
you
11:20
done
11:20
a
11:21
quantity
11:22
runs
11:22
it
11:22
all
11:23
with
11:23
a
11:23
local
11:23
printer?
11:24
No,
11:25
it's
11:25
strictly
11:26
print
11:26
on
11:26
demand.
11:27
I
11:27
just
11:27
didn't
11:28
want
11:29
to
11:29
get
11:29
bogged
11:30
down
11:30
with
11:31
boxes
11:31
and
11:31
boxes
11:32
of
11:32
books
11:33
and.
11:33
And
11:33
then
11:33
to
11:33
have
11:34
that
11:34
added
11:34
pressure
11:35
of,
11:35
okay,
11:36
now
11:36
I've
11:37
got
11:37
these
11:37
sitting
11:37
in
11:37
the.
11:38
In
11:38
the
11:38
garage,
11:39
and
11:39
I've
11:39
got
11:39
to
11:39
make
11:40
a
11:40
move
11:40
somehow.
11:40
So
11:41
I.
11:41
I
11:41
prefer
11:42
the
11:42
print
11:42
on
11:42
demand.
11:43
And
11:43
the
11:43
reason
11:44
I
11:44
asked
11:44
that,
11:44
of
11:45
course,
11:45
is
11:45
to
11:45
share
11:46
that
11:46
with
11:47
our
11:47
aspiring
11:48
authors
11:49
to
11:49
understand
11:50
that
11:50
you
11:50
don't.
11:50
You
11:51
don't
11:51
have
11:51
to
11:51
tie
11:51
up
11:52
thousands
11:52
of
11:53
dollars
11:53
in
11:53
inventory
11:54
to
11:55
bring
11:55
your
11:55
book
11:55
to
11:55
life.
11:56
The
11:56
other
11:57
interesting
11:57
thing
11:58
I
11:58
just
11:58
want
11:58
to
11:58
share
11:58
this
11:59
with
11:59
you,
11:59
Darcy,
11:59
is
12:00
yesterday
12:01
I
12:01
received
12:01
a
12:02
quote.
12:02
I
12:02
thought,
12:02
you
12:03
know
12:03
what?
12:03
We're
12:03
going
12:03
to
12:03
be
12:04
publishing
12:05
our
12:05
second
12:05
book.
12:06
Why
12:06
not
12:07
just
12:07
get
12:07
a
12:07
quote
12:08
on
12:09
doing
12:09
quantity
12:10
runs?
12:11
And
12:11
when
12:12
I
12:12
got
12:12
the
12:12
quote,
12:13
I
12:13
was
12:13
quite.
12:14
I
12:14
don't
12:14
want
12:15
to
12:15
use
12:15
the
12:15
word
12:15
shock,
12:16
but
12:17
when
12:17
I
12:17
looked
12:18
at
12:18
it,
12:18
I
12:18
realized
12:19
that
12:20
using
12:20
print
12:21
on
12:21
demand
12:22
is
12:22
really
12:23
not
12:23
that
12:23
expensive
12:24
compared
12:25
to
12:25
doing
12:25
a
12:26
large
12:26
run.
12:27
So
12:27
I
12:27
think
12:27
you'd
12:27
have
12:28
to
12:28
get
12:28
into
12:28
the
12:29
thousands
12:29
and
12:30
thousands
12:30
of
12:31
books
12:31
run
12:32
before
12:32
there's
12:33
any,
12:33
really
12:34
economy
12:34
of
12:34
scale.
12:35
And
12:35
then
12:36
you
12:36
do,
12:36
let's
12:37
say
12:37
2,000
12:37
books,
12:38
and
12:39
they
12:39
get
12:39
shipped
12:39
to
12:40
you,
12:40
and
12:40
you've
12:41
got
12:41
these
12:41
boxes
12:42
and
12:42
boxes
12:43
sitting
12:43
in
12:43
your
12:43
garage
12:44
or
12:44
storage.
12:45
Now
12:45
what
12:45
do
12:45
you
12:45
do
12:45
with
12:45
them?
12:46
How
12:46
do
12:46
you
12:46
get
12:46
them
12:46
into
12:47
the
12:47
hands
12:47
of
12:47
the
12:47
customers?
12:48
And
12:48
it's
12:48
a
12:49
whole
12:49
nother
12:50
marketing
12:50
issue.
12:51
Darcy,
12:52
can
12:52
you
12:52
grab
12:52
caboose
12:53
the
12:53
Rocky
12:54
Mountain
12:54
Bear
12:54
book
12:54
for
12:55
one
12:55
second?
12:56
Because
12:56
I
12:56
want
12:56
to
12:57
share
12:57
something
12:57
with
12:57
the
12:58
audience.
12:58
And
12:59
if
12:59
you
12:59
open
12:59
it
12:59
up
13:00
for
13:00
yourself,
13:01
and
13:02
inside
13:02
there
13:03
should
13:03
be
13:03
the
13:03
very
13:04
front
13:04
cover,
13:05
there
13:05
should
13:05
be
13:05
a
13:05
heart.
13:06
Is
13:06
there
13:06
a
13:06
heart
13:07
there?
13:07
Okay.
13:08
That
13:08
is
13:08
called
13:09
a
13:09
book
13:09
plate.
13:09
I
13:10
added
13:11
after
13:11
the
13:11
fact
13:12
because
13:12
somebody
13:13
said,
13:14
where
13:14
does
13:14
the
13:14
author
13:15
sign
13:15
or
13:15
the
13:15
child's
13:16
name?
13:17
A
13:17
lot
13:17
of
13:17
times
13:18
it's
13:18
a
13:18
gift
13:18
from
13:19
a
13:19
parent
13:19
or
13:19
a
13:20
grandparent.
13:21
So
13:21
how
13:21
do
13:21
you.
13:21
Where
13:21
do
13:21
you
13:22
put
13:22
that?
13:22
So
13:23
that's
13:23
the
13:23
reason
13:23
I
13:23
think
13:24
you've
13:24
done
13:24
the
13:24
same
13:25
thing,
13:25
if
13:25
I'm
13:25
not
13:25
mistaken.
13:26
I
13:27
didn't
13:27
on
13:28
this
13:28
first
13:28
book,
13:29
but
13:30
my
13:30
next
13:31
one,
13:31
the
13:31
one
13:31
that's
13:32
coming
13:32
out
13:32
here
13:32
in
13:32
a
13:32
couple
13:33
of
13:33
weeks,
13:33
I
13:33
did.
13:33
I
13:34
added
13:34
that
13:34
in
13:34
there
13:34
because
13:35
somebody
13:36
suggested,
13:36
hey,
13:37
you
13:37
should
13:37
have
13:38
a
13:38
place
13:38
for
13:38
kids
13:39
to
13:39
put
13:39
their
13:39
name
13:39
on
13:39
it.
13:40
Absolutely.
13:41
So
13:41
the
13:42
nice
13:42
thing
13:42
about,
13:43
again,
13:43
this
13:44
is
13:44
for
13:44
the
13:44
listening
13:45
audience
13:45
is
13:46
that,
13:46
you
13:47
know,
13:47
like
13:47
Darcy
13:48
and
13:48
myself,
13:48
we
13:49
recognize
13:49
that
13:50
there
13:50
should
13:50
be
13:51
somewhere
13:51
that
13:52
that's
13:53
a
13:53
nice
13:53
little
13:53
spot
13:54
for
13:54
a
13:55
message
13:55
to
13:55
be
13:55
written
13:56
or
13:56
for
13:56
a
13:57
child
13:57
to
13:57
write
13:57
their
13:58
name
13:58
or
13:58
whatever.
13:59
And
13:59
so
13:59
adding
14:00
it
14:00
in,
14:01
because
14:01
we're
14:02
self
14:02
published,
14:03
I
14:03
just
14:04
had
14:04
it
14:04
added
14:05
in
14:05
after
14:06
the
14:06
fact.
14:06
Then
14:07
I
14:07
just
14:07
updated
14:08
the
14:08
files
14:08
on
14:09
Ingham
14:09
Sparks
14:10
and
14:10
on
14:10
Amazon
14:11
and
14:12
boom,
14:13
voila.
14:13
It's
14:14
just
14:14
another
14:15
measure
14:16
that
14:16
you
14:16
can
14:16
use
14:17
without
14:18
having
14:18
to
14:18
tie
14:18
up
14:19
a
14:19
lot
14:19
of
14:19
money
14:19
in
14:19
inventory.
14:20
Right.
14:21
And
14:21
another
14:22
thing,
14:23
as
14:23
a
14:23
self
14:23
publisher
14:24
and
14:24
having
14:24
the
14:25
ability
14:25
to
14:25
go
14:26
in
14:26
and
14:26
make
14:26
changes
14:26
to
14:27
your
14:27
book
14:27
and
14:28
then
14:28
upload
14:28
them
14:28
to
14:29
Amazon
14:30
or
14:30
whoever's
14:31
doing
14:31
the
14:32
Print
14:32
on
14:32
Demand
14:33
is,
14:33
you'll
14:33
notice
14:34
on
14:34
the
14:34
COVID
14:34
of
14:34
my
14:35
book
14:35
there
14:35
into
14:36
the
14:36
Storm,
14:36
it
14:37
has
14:37
won
14:38
two
14:38
awards
14:39
within
14:39
the
14:39
last
14:39
year.
14:40
I
14:40
was
14:40
able
14:41
to
14:41
myself
14:42
using
14:43
Canva,
14:44
basically
14:45
go
14:45
in
14:45
and
14:46
update
14:46
my
14:46
cover
14:47
with
14:47
the.
14:47
The
14:48
awards
14:48
and
14:48
then
14:49
upload
14:49
it
14:49
to.
14:50
Upload
14:50
it
14:50
to
14:51
Print
14:52
on
14:52
Demand,
14:52
you
14:52
know,
14:52
through
14:53
Amazon.
14:54
So
14:54
I
14:54
was
14:54
able
14:54
to
14:55
do
14:55
that
14:55
myself
14:55
where
14:55
if
14:56
you're
14:56
going
14:57
through
14:57
a
14:57
traditional
14:58
publisher,
14:58
I
14:58
think
14:58
to
14:59
do
14:59
that
14:59
would
14:59
be
14:59
a
14:59
lot
14:59
harder.
15:00
And
15:00
to
15:00
your
15:01
point,
15:01
again,
15:02
if
15:02
you
15:02
got
15:02
a
15:02
thousand
15:03
copies
15:03
sitting
15:03
in
15:04
the
15:04
garage,
15:04
you'd
15:05
have
15:05
to
15:05
wait
15:05
for
15:05
the
15:05
sell
15:06
through
15:06
before
15:07
you'd
15:07
ever
15:08
be
15:08
able
15:08
to
15:08
show
15:09
people
15:09
that
15:10
you
15:10
got
15:10
a
15:10
second
15:10
award.
15:11
Exactly.
15:12
Thanks
15:12
for
15:13
sharing
15:13
that.
15:14
The
15:14
next
15:14
thing,
15:14
and
15:14
I
15:15
want
15:15
to
15:15
let
15:15
you
15:15
know,
15:15
on
15:16
my
15:16
iPad,
15:17
I
15:17
actually
15:18
have
15:19
your
15:20
website
15:20
in
15:21
front
15:21
of
15:21
me.
15:21
I
15:21
love
15:22
your
15:22
website.
15:22
You've
15:22
done
15:23
a
15:23
phenomenal
15:24
job.
15:24
The
15:24
one
15:25
thing
15:25
I
15:25
wanted
15:25
to
15:26
ask
15:26
you
15:26
as
15:27
a
15:27
children's
15:28
book
15:28
author,
15:29
when
15:29
my
15:29
granddaughter
15:30
and
15:30
I
15:30
started
15:31
on
15:31
our
15:31
adventure,
15:32
the
15:32
first
15:32
thing
15:32
we
15:32
did
15:33
is
15:33
we
15:33
wanted
15:33
to
15:33
get
15:33
our
15:33
book
15:34
to
15:34
market.
15:35
When
15:35
we
15:35
were
15:35
just
15:36
about
15:36
ready
15:36
to
15:37
publish,
15:38
someone
15:38
said,
15:39
well,
15:39
where's
15:40
your
15:40
home?
15:41
And
15:41
I
15:41
said,
15:42
what
15:42
do
15:42
you
15:42
mean,
15:42
where's
15:42
our
15:43
home?
15:43
And
15:43
they
15:43
said,
15:43
well,
15:44
do
15:44
you
15:44
have
15:44
a
15:45
website
15:45
where
15:46
you
15:46
can
15:46
direct
15:47
somebody
15:47
to,
15:48
to
15:48
buy
15:49
your
15:49
book?
15:50
And
15:50
I
15:50
thought,
15:50
oh,
15:51
I
15:51
just
15:51
thought
15:52
I
15:52
was
15:52
going
15:52
to
15:52
send
15:52
them
15:53
to
15:53
Amazon
15:54
or
15:54
whatever
15:55
online
15:55
retailer
15:56
and
15:57
that'd
15:57
be
15:57
the
15:57
end
15:57
of
15:57
it.
15:58
And
15:58
they
15:58
said,
15:58
no,
15:58
no,
15:58
no,
15:58
no,
15:59
you
15:59
need
15:59
a
15:59
website.
16:00
We
16:00
developed
16:01
a
16:01
website
16:02
after
16:03
the
16:03
fact.
16:04
Can
16:04
you
16:04
tell
16:05
us
16:05
your
16:06
journey
16:06
with
16:06
your
16:07
website?
16:07
Did
16:07
it
16:07
come
16:08
before
16:08
or
16:09
after
16:09
your
16:09
first
16:10
book
16:10
and
16:11
how
16:11
did
16:11
you
16:11
go
16:11
about
16:12
putting
16:12
it
16:12
all
16:12
together?
16:13
My
16:13
first
16:14
whip.
16:14
I
16:15
went
16:15
through
16:15
the
16:15
process
16:16
of
16:16
getting
16:16
my
16:16
book
16:17
all
16:17
written
16:17
and
16:17
ready
16:18
to
16:18
publish.
16:18
And
16:18
while
16:19
I
16:19
was
16:19
waiting
16:20
for
16:20
the
16:20
illustrators
16:21
to
16:21
finish
16:22
up
16:22
their
16:22
part
16:22
of
16:22
it,
16:23
I
16:23
went
16:24
on
16:24
and
16:24
developed
16:25
my.
16:25
Went
16:25
online
16:26
and
16:26
developed
16:26
my
16:26
own
16:27
website
16:27
and
16:28
did
16:28
it
16:28
myself.
16:29
And
16:29
I
16:29
used
16:30
a
16:30
free
16:32
website
16:32
to
16:33
do
16:33
my
16:33
own
16:33
website
16:34
I
16:34
have
16:34
no
16:35
experience,
16:35
but
16:36
it
16:36
was
16:36
kind
16:36
of
16:36
a
16:37
cut
16:37
and
16:37
paste,
16:38
you
16:38
know,
16:38
you
16:39
just
16:39
make
16:40
it
16:40
yourself.
16:40
So
16:41
I
16:41
did
16:41
that
16:42
just
16:42
to
16:42
have
16:43
a
16:43
presence
16:44
on
16:44
the
16:44
Internet.
16:45
So
16:45
I
16:45
threw
16:46
that
16:46
up.
16:46
And
16:47
that
16:47
was
16:47
before
16:48
your
16:48
first
16:48
book
16:48
got
16:49
published?
16:50
It
16:50
was
16:50
just
16:50
before
16:51
the
16:51
first
16:51
book
16:52
got
16:52
published,
16:53
but
16:53
then
16:53
after
16:53
it
16:54
got
16:54
published,
16:55
I'm
16:55
like,
16:55
you
16:55
know,
16:56
this
16:56
doesn't
16:56
look
16:57
professional.
16:58
It's
16:58
not
16:59
attractive.
16:59
So
17:00
I
17:00
did
17:00
some
17:00
more
17:01
research
17:01
and
17:01
I,
17:02
I
17:02
designed
17:03
and
17:03
built
17:03
another
17:04
website
17:05
myself.
17:05
I
17:05
use,
17:06
it's
17:06
wix.
17:07
I
17:07
use
17:07
wix,
17:08
which
17:08
is
17:08
a
17:08
little
17:08
more,
17:09
A
17:09
little
17:09
more
17:09
of
17:10
an
17:10
upscale.
17:10
They
17:10
have
17:10
more
17:11
tools
17:11
and
17:12
some
17:12
training
17:12
to
17:12
go
17:13
along
17:13
with
17:13
it.
17:13
My
17:13
website,
17:14
I
17:14
basically
17:15
designed
17:15
it,
17:15
put
17:16
it.
17:16
Some
17:16
people
17:16
can't
17:17
do
17:17
that
17:17
because
17:17
they
17:18
don't
17:18
have
17:18
time.
17:18
It's.
17:18
It's
17:19
time
17:19
consuming.
17:20
I'm
17:20
retired,
17:21
so
17:21
I
17:21
got
17:22
a
17:22
lot
17:22
of
17:22
time
17:22
now.
17:23
I
17:23
don't
17:23
have
17:23
to
17:23
go
17:23
to
17:24
work
17:24
like
17:24
a
17:24
lot
17:24
of
17:24
people
17:24
do.
17:25
This
17:25
is
17:26
my
17:26
job.
17:26
You
17:26
know,
17:27
essentially
17:27
it's
17:28
a
17:28
job,
17:28
but
17:28
it's
17:29
not,
17:29
it's
17:29
fun,
17:30
you
17:30
know,
17:30
it's
17:30
what
17:30
I
17:30
do,
17:31
as
17:31
you
17:31
know.
17:32
But
17:32
so
17:33
that's
17:33
how
17:33
my
17:34
website,
17:34
as
17:34
it
17:35
currently
17:35
stands
17:36
and
17:36
I
17:36
can
17:36
update
17:37
it
17:37
easily.
17:37
And
17:37
you'll.
17:38
If
17:38
you're
17:38
on
17:38
my
17:39
website
17:39
right
17:39
now,
17:39
if
17:40
you
17:40
scroll
17:40
down
17:40
a
17:40
little
17:41
bit,
17:41
you'll
17:41
see
17:41
my
17:41
newest
17:42
book
17:42
that's
17:42
coming
17:42
out.
17:43
Cover
17:44
pages
17:44
up
17:44
there
17:44
and
17:44
it
17:44
says
17:45
coming
17:45
soon.
17:46
Some,
17:46
Some
17:46
angels
17:47
have
17:47
rotor
17:48
blades.
17:49
Yeah,
17:49
so
17:49
that's
17:49
the
17:49
one
17:50
coming
17:50
out
17:50
soon.
17:50
Because
17:51
I
17:51
did
17:51
my
17:51
own
17:51
website,
17:52
I
17:52
didn't
17:52
have
17:52
to
17:52
go
17:53
through
17:53
a
17:53
web
17:53
designer.
17:54
I
17:54
can
17:54
just
17:54
go
17:54
in
17:54
and
17:55
update
17:55
it
17:55
like
17:55
that.
17:56
Fantastic.
17:57
Fantastic.
17:58
I'm
17:58
always
17:58
curious
17:59
when
17:59
it
18:00
comes
18:00
to
18:00
website
18:01
development
18:02
and
18:03
I
18:03
always
18:03
tell
18:04
aspiring
18:05
authors,
18:06
sometimes
18:07
children
18:07
book
18:08
authors.
18:08
I
18:08
just
18:08
had
18:08
a
18:09
guest
18:09
on
18:10
not
18:10
that
18:10
long
18:10
ago
18:11
and
18:11
she
18:12
didn't
18:12
have
18:12
a
18:12
website
18:13
at
18:13
all.
18:14
We
18:14
got
18:14
to
18:14
talking
18:15
and
18:15
I
18:15
explained
18:16
to
18:16
her,
18:16
you
18:17
know,
18:17
some
18:17
people
18:18
have
18:18
their
18:18
website
18:19
in
18:19
their
18:19
author's
18:20
name.
18:20
Some
18:21
people,
18:21
myself
18:22
and
18:22
my
18:22
granddaughter,
18:24
we
18:24
actually
18:25
named
18:25
our
18:26
website
18:26
after
18:27
our
18:27
children's
18:27
book
18:28
series
18:28
because
18:29
with
18:29
my
18:29
other
18:30
four
18:30
grandchildren
18:31
we've
18:31
now
18:31
written
18:32
38
18:32
books
18:33
and.
18:34
But
18:34
they're
18:34
all
18:34
in
18:35
the
18:35
series
18:35
of
18:35
Caboose,
18:36
the
18:36
Rocky
18:36
Mountain
18:37
Bear.
18:37
Explain
18:38
why
18:38
you
18:39
chose
18:39
to
18:39
use
18:40
your.
18:40
Name
18:40
as
18:40
your
18:41
website's
18:42
name
18:43
for
18:43
expediency.
18:44
At
18:44
the
18:45
time
18:45
I,
18:45
I
18:46
didn't
18:46
know
18:46
where
18:47
this
18:48
children's
18:48
book
18:48
writing
18:49
process
18:49
was
18:49
going
18:50
to
18:50
go.
18:51
I
18:51
didn't
18:51
know
18:51
that
18:52
there
18:52
would
18:52
be
18:52
a
18:52
series.
18:53
I
18:53
thought
18:53
it
18:53
was
18:53
going
18:53
to
18:53
be
18:53
a
18:53
one
18:54
and
18:54
done
18:54
type
18:54
of
18:54
thing.
18:55
And
18:56
I
18:56
just
18:56
said,
18:57
hey,
18:57
I'll
18:57
just
18:57
put
18:57
my
18:57
name
18:58
on
18:58
it.
18:58
As
18:58
the
18:59
author
18:59
and
19:00
just
19:00
not
19:01
very
19:01
creative
19:01
and
19:01
coming
19:02
up
19:02
with
19:02
anything
19:02
better
19:03
at
19:03
the
19:03
time.
19:03
And,
19:04
and
19:04
now
19:04
that
19:04
I
19:05
have,
19:05
I
19:05
mean,
19:05
it's.
19:06
It's
19:06
a
19:06
brand,
19:07
I
19:07
guess
19:07
you
19:07
could
19:07
say
19:08
kind
19:08
of
19:08
a
19:08
brand
19:08
name.
19:09
Darcy.
19:09
As
19:10
soon
19:10
as
19:10
I
19:10
started
19:11
typing
19:11
your
19:11
name
19:12
in
19:12
and
19:13
I
19:13
just
19:13
got
19:13
to
19:14
like
19:14
Darcy
19:15
Guy
19:15
and
19:16
it
19:16
automatically
19:17
came
19:17
up
19:17
in
19:18
the
19:18
search
19:18
engine.
19:19
So,
19:20
I
19:20
mean,
19:20
that's
19:20
pretty
19:20
remarkable,
19:21
right?
19:22
There's
19:22
not
19:22
too
19:22
many
19:23
people
19:23
out
19:23
there
19:23
named
19:23
Darcy
19:24
Guy
19:24
Ant.
19:24
So
19:24
it's
19:25
going
19:25
to
19:25
kick
19:25
them
19:25
up.
19:25
In
19:26
fact,
19:26
there
19:26
is
19:26
nobody
19:26
else
19:27
with
19:27
this
19:27
name.
19:28
So
19:28
it's
19:28
not
19:29
like.
19:29
It's
19:29
not
19:29
like
19:29
it's
19:30
Bob
19:30
Jones
19:30
or
19:30
something
19:31
where.
19:31
Okay,
19:31
you're
19:31
never
19:31
going
19:32
to
19:32
find
19:32
his
19:32
website.
19:33
Right.
19:34
But
19:34
yeah,
19:35
one
19:35
thing
19:35
with
19:36
our
19:36
website,
19:36
and
19:37
again,
19:37
I'm
19:37
just
19:37
sharing
19:38
this
19:38
with,
19:38
with
19:38
listeners
19:39
is
19:39
with
19:40
our
19:40
website.
19:41
We're.
19:41
We're
19:41
locked
19:42
into
19:43
our
19:43
series
19:44
the
19:44
Adventures
19:45
of
19:45
Caboose
19:45
the
19:45
Rocky
19:46
Mountain
19:46
Bear.
19:47
That's
19:47
why
19:47
we
19:47
say
19:47
the
19:47
Adventures
19:48
of.
19:48
Because
19:49
Caboose
19:50
has
19:51
a
19:51
family
19:52
and
19:52
a
19:52
community
19:53
and
19:53
all
19:54
of
19:54
that.
19:54
So
19:55
all
19:55
those
19:55
characters
19:56
will
19:56
get
19:56
introduced,
19:57
but
19:57
they'll
19:58
be
19:58
in
19:58
the,
19:59
in
19:59
the
19:59
broader
20:00
scope
20:00
of,
20:01
of
20:01
the
20:01
Adventures
20:01
of
20:02
Caboose.
20:03
And
20:04
for
20:04
you,
20:05
the
20:05
neat
20:05
thing
20:06
about
20:06
it,
20:06
when
20:06
I
20:06
look
20:06
at
20:07
your
20:07
books,
20:08
you
20:08
certainly
20:08
have
20:09
Gwen
20:09
and
20:10
Dahl,
20:11
I
20:11
think
20:11
in
20:12
your
20:12
first
20:12
three
20:12
books
20:13
and
20:13
then
20:13
in
20:14
your
20:14
fourth
20:14
book,
20:15
you're
20:16
introducing
20:16
some
20:16
new
20:17
characters,
20:18
right?
20:19
It's
20:19
not
20:19
part
20:19
of
20:20
the
20:20
series.
20:20
It's
20:21
a
20:21
standalone
20:22
book
20:22
about
20:22
a
20:22
different
20:23
type
20:23
of
20:23
helicopter.
20:25
It's
20:26
still
20:26
a
20:26
Coast
20:26
Guard
20:27
rescue
20:28
adventure
20:28
story,
20:29
but
20:30
it's
20:31
not
20:31
part
20:31
of
20:32
the
20:32
series.
20:32
I
20:33
have
20:33
a
20:33
special
20:34
reason
20:34
for
20:34
doing
20:34
that.
20:35
A
20:35
special
20:35
story
20:36
that
20:36
I
20:36
wanted
20:36
to
20:36
tell,
20:37
again,
20:37
inspired
20:38
by
20:38
my
20:39
granddaughter.
20:40
It
20:40
makes
20:40
sense.
20:40
It
20:40
gives
20:40
you
20:41
some
20:41
flexibility.
20:42
Exactly.
20:43
That's
20:43
what
20:43
I
20:43
was
20:43
going
20:43
to
20:44
say.
20:44
You
20:44
know,
20:44
if,
20:44
if
20:45
I'd
20:45
done
20:45
a
20:46
series
20:46
or
20:46
the
20:47
series
20:47
name,
20:47
then
20:48
it
20:48
doesn't
20:48
fit
20:48
anymore.
20:49
If
20:49
you
20:50
could
20:50
just
20:50
tell
20:50
us
20:51
a
20:51
little
20:51
bit
20:51
more
20:52
about
20:52
your
20:52
website.
20:53
Like
20:53
I,
20:53
I
20:54
know
20:54
like
20:54
you've
20:54
said,
20:54
you've
20:55
added.
20:55
I
20:56
can
20:56
see
20:56
it
20:56
coming
20:57
soon.
20:58
Is
20:58
there
20:58
other
20:59
things
20:59
every
21:00
time
21:00
you
21:00
launched
21:00
a
21:01
book
21:01
and.
21:01
Cause
21:01
you're
21:01
now
21:02
coming
21:02
up
21:02
to
21:02
your
21:02
fourth
21:03
book.
21:03
Tell
21:04
us
21:04
a
21:04
little
21:04
bit
21:05
about
21:05
the,
21:05
like,
21:06
the
21:06
nuances
21:07
behind
21:08
each
21:08
time
21:08
you
21:09
launched
21:09
a
21:09
book,
21:09
did
21:09
you.
21:10
Did
21:10
you
21:10
do
21:10
something
21:11
different
21:11
to
21:11
your
21:12
website
21:12
just
21:13
in
21:13
terms
21:13
of
21:13
changing
21:14
it,
21:14
giving
21:15
it
21:15
a
21:15
different
21:15
feel
21:16
or
21:17
what
21:17
can
21:17
you
21:17
tell
21:17
us
21:17
about
21:18
that
21:18
journey.
21:19
Changed
21:20
the
21:20
style
21:21
or
21:21
the
21:22
look
21:22
and
21:22
feel
21:22
of
21:23
my
21:23
website?
21:23
I
21:23
basically
21:24
just
21:24
update
21:25
it
21:25
with
21:25
the
21:26
COVID
21:26
of
21:26
the
21:26
next
21:27
book
21:27
and
21:28
people
21:28
can
21:28
place
21:29
orders,
21:29
they
21:29
can
21:30
shop
21:30
and
21:30
buy
21:31
the
21:31
book
21:31
direct
21:31
Books
21:32
directly
21:32
from
21:32
me
21:33
and
21:33
I
21:33
get
21:33
the
21:34
orders
21:34
and
21:34
I
21:35
self
21:35
fulfillment,
21:36
I'll
21:36
mail
21:36
them
21:36
out,
21:37
put
21:37
that
21:37
in,
21:38
update
21:38
all
21:38
that
21:38
information.
21:40
But
21:40
that
21:41
is
21:41
pretty
21:41
easy
21:42
to
21:42
do
21:42
very
21:42
quick
21:43
to,
21:43
to
21:43
go
21:44
very
21:44
quick
21:44
to
21:44
do.
21:45
The
21:45
other
21:45
thing
21:45
I
21:46
add
21:46
to
21:46
my,
21:47
my
21:47
website
21:48
is
21:48
special
21:49
events.
21:50
If
21:50
I'm
21:50
going
21:51
to
21:51
be
21:51
involved
21:51
in
21:52
an
21:52
event,
21:52
a
21:52
book
21:52
signing
21:53
or
21:54
updating
21:54
it
21:55
on
21:55
my
21:55
media
21:55
page
21:56
with
21:56
podcasts
21:57
that
21:57
I'm
21:57
involved
21:58
in
21:58
or
21:58
have
21:58
been
21:59
on.
21:59
Just
21:59
so
21:59
if
22:00
people
22:00
want
22:00
to
22:01
see
22:01
or
22:01
hear
22:02
a
22:02
little
22:02
bit
22:02
more
22:02
about,
22:03
about
22:04
what
22:04
we're
22:04
talking
22:05
about,
22:05
they
22:05
can
22:05
just
22:06
click
22:06
on
22:06
the
22:07
link
22:07
from
22:07
my
22:07
website.
22:08
So
22:08
I
22:08
add
22:08
that
22:08
in
22:09
there.
22:09
The
22:10
reason
22:10
I
22:10
want
22:10
to
22:10
share
22:11
that
22:11
is
22:11
so
22:11
people
22:12
understand
22:13
again
22:14
that
22:14
the
22:14
beautiful
22:15
thing
22:15
about
22:15
a
22:15
website
22:16
is
22:16
it's
22:16
not
22:16
static.
22:17
I
22:17
would
22:18
encourage
22:18
you
22:19
just
22:19
as
22:19
Darcy's
22:20
done.
22:20
And
22:21
we
22:21
recently
22:21
did
22:22
about
22:22
five
22:22
or
22:23
six
22:23
changes
22:23
ourselves,
22:24
right
22:24
in
22:25
the
22:25
new
22:25
year.
22:25
I
22:26
kind
22:26
of
22:26
looked
22:26
at
22:26
it
22:26
and
22:27
said
22:27
I
22:28
just
22:28
did
22:28
little
22:29
changes.
22:30
And
22:30
so
22:30
it's
22:31
important
22:31
people
22:32
to
22:32
know
22:32
that
22:33
once
22:33
you
22:34
start
22:34
and
22:34
you
22:35
have
22:35
a
22:35
home
22:35
for
22:35
your
22:36
books,
22:36
it's
22:37
always
22:38
evolving.
22:38
If
22:39
you
22:39
listen
22:39
to
22:39
Darcy,
22:40
it's
22:41
evolving
22:41
in
22:41
a
22:41
very
22:42
positive
22:42
way
22:42
because
22:43
things
22:43
are
22:43
happening
22:44
that
22:44
are
22:44
helping
22:45
to
22:45
build
22:45
your
22:45
business,
22:46
such
22:46
as
22:47
events
22:48
or
22:48
new
22:48
books
22:49
or
22:50
special
22:50
offers,
22:51
whatever
22:51
it
22:51
happens
22:51
to
22:52
be.
22:52
So
22:53
thank
22:53
you
22:53
for
22:53
sharing
22:54
that.
22:54
So
22:55
I
22:55
know
22:55
you
22:55
talked
22:55
about
22:56
your
22:56
granddaughter
22:57
and
22:57
you
22:58
talked
22:58
about
22:58
your
22:59
career
23:00
in
23:01
your
23:01
motivation
23:02
to
23:02
get
23:02
the
23:03
children's
23:04
book
23:04
off
23:05
the
23:05
ground.
23:05
And
23:06
you
23:06
said
23:07
earlier
23:07
that,
23:08
you
23:08
said,
23:08
I
23:08
thought
23:09
I'd
23:09
be
23:09
one
23:09
and
23:10
done.
23:10
Well,
23:11
obviously
23:11
there
23:12
was
23:12
a
23:12
lot
23:12
more
23:13
motivation
23:14
that
23:14
happened.
23:15
So
23:15
can
23:15
you
23:16
explain
23:16
to
23:16
us
23:17
how
23:17
you
23:17
went
23:18
from
23:18
like
23:19
an,
23:19
an
23:19
aspiring
23:20
author
23:20
thinking,
23:21
oh,
23:21
I'll
23:21
write
23:21
my
23:22
one
23:22
book
23:23
from
23:24
one
23:24
and
23:24
done
23:25
to
23:26
multiple.
23:27
Now
23:27
you're
23:27
going
23:27
to
23:28
be
23:28
up
23:28
to
23:29
four
23:29
children's
23:29
books.
23:30
Can
23:30
you
23:30
explain
23:31
that
23:31
motivation?
23:32
I
23:32
wrote
23:32
the
23:33
first
23:33
one
23:33
and
23:34
I,
23:34
I
23:34
volunteer
23:35
at
23:36
a
23:36
local
23:37
elementary
23:37
school,
23:38
a
23:38
public
23:38
school.
23:39
Every
23:39
morning
23:40
I'm
23:40
up
23:40
there
23:40
helping
23:41
the
23:41
teachers
23:41
and
23:42
I
23:42
work
23:42
with
23:42
first
23:42
grade
23:43
students.
23:44
And
23:44
when
23:44
my
23:45
first
23:45
book
23:45
was
23:45
done,
23:45
I
23:46
went
23:46
into
23:46
the,
23:46
the
23:47
teachers
23:47
invited
23:47
me
23:48
to
23:48
their
23:48
classroom
23:49
because
23:49
they,
23:50
they
23:50
knew
23:50
me
23:50
and
23:51
I
23:51
knew
23:51
them.
23:51
And
23:51
I
23:52
read
23:52
my
23:52
book
23:52
to
23:53
the
23:53
kids
23:54
and
23:54
the
23:54
kids
23:54
loved
23:55
it
23:55
because
23:55
it's
23:56
an
23:56
adventure
23:56
story
23:57
and
23:57
there's
23:57
excitement
23:58
and
23:58
there's
23:58
some
23:59
suspense
24:00
to
24:00
it,
24:00
and
24:01
they
24:01
were
24:01
just
24:01
captivated
24:02
by
24:02
it.
24:02
And
24:02
I
24:02
had
24:03
so
24:03
many
24:03
kids
24:03
come
24:03
up
24:03
to
24:03
me
24:04
and
24:04
say,
24:05
and
24:05
they
24:05
call
24:06
me
24:06
Mr.
24:06
Darcy.
24:06
Mr.
24:07
Darcy,
24:07
I
24:07
love
24:07
your
24:08
book.
24:08
I
24:08
can't
24:08
wait
24:08
for
24:09
the
24:09
next
24:09
one.
24:10
I'm
24:10
like,
24:10
next
24:11
one?
24:11
Well,
24:12
so
24:13
that
24:13
got
24:13
the
24:14
wheels
24:14
turning
24:15
and
24:15
then
24:15
I
24:15
just
24:15
talked
24:16
to,
24:16
you
24:16
know,
24:16
teachers
24:17
and
24:18
parents,
24:18
and
24:19
the
24:19
feedback
24:20
I
24:20
was
24:20
getting
24:20
from
24:21
people
24:21
that
24:22
read
24:22
the
24:22
book,
24:22
and
24:22
they're
24:23
like,
24:23
okay,
24:23
I
24:24
guess
24:24
I
24:24
better
24:24
do
24:25
another
24:25
one
24:25
now.
24:26
It's
24:26
not
24:26
hard.
24:27
I
24:27
have
24:27
all
24:27
kinds
24:28
of
24:28
experiences
24:29
from
24:29
my
24:29
time
24:30
in
24:30
the
24:30
military
24:30
of
24:31
flying
24:31
helicopters.
24:32
I've
24:33
got
24:33
almost
24:34
an
24:34
endless
24:34
supply
24:35
of
24:35
potential
24:36
stories
24:36
that
24:37
could
24:37
be
24:37
written
24:37
or
24:37
developed
24:38
into
24:38
books.
24:38
So
24:39
settling
24:39
on
24:40
another
24:40
story
24:41
was
24:42
fairly
24:43
easy.
24:43
It
24:43
just
24:44
takes
24:44
time
24:44
to
24:45
go
24:45
through
24:45
the
24:45
whole
24:45
process
24:46
and
24:46
illustrating
24:46
and
24:47
all
24:47
that.
24:47
But.
24:48
But
24:48
then
24:48
I,
24:49
you
24:49
know,
24:49
I
24:49
just.
24:49
Through
24:50
the
24:50
encouragement
24:50
of
24:50
people
24:51
that
24:51
like
24:51
the
24:51
books
24:52
and.
24:52
And.
24:53
And
24:53
my
24:53
granddaughter,
24:54
my
24:55
first
24:55
book,
24:56
of
24:56
course,
24:57
when
24:57
it
24:57
was
24:57
done,
24:58
she
24:58
was
24:58
about
24:58
three
24:58
and
24:58
a
24:59
half.
24:59
We
24:59
read
25:00
it
25:00
together,
25:01
and
25:02
at
25:02
first
25:02
she
25:03
was
25:03
three
25:03
and
25:03
a
25:03
half.
25:03
And
25:04
because
25:04
it
25:04
is
25:04
an
25:05
adventure
25:05
story
25:05
and
25:05
there's
25:06
just
25:06
some
25:06
suspense
25:07
with
25:07
thunder
25:07
and
25:08
lightning
25:08
and
25:08
waves
25:09
and
25:09
people
25:09
in
25:09
trouble,
25:10
she
25:11
was
25:11
a
25:11
little
25:11
scared.
25:11
So
25:12
she's
25:12
holding
25:12
onto
25:13
her
25:13
mom's
25:13
arm
25:13
and
25:14
she's
25:14
got
25:14
her
25:14
little
25:14
stuffy
25:15
that
25:15
she's
25:15
holding
25:16
onto.
25:17
And
25:17
we
25:17
got
25:18
to
25:18
the
25:18
end
25:18
of
25:18
the
25:19
story,
25:19
and
25:19
she's
25:20
like,
25:20
grandpa,
25:21
what
25:21
did
25:21
I
25:21
get?
25:22
So,
25:23
just
25:23
wanted
25:24
to
25:24
hear
25:24
the
25:24
story
25:25
over
25:25
and
25:25
over
25:25
again,
25:26
over
25:26
again.
25:26
And
25:27
eventually
25:28
she.
25:28
We
25:28
read
25:28
it
25:29
to
25:29
her
25:29
so
25:29
many
25:29
times
25:30
that
25:30
she
25:30
memorized
25:31
it
25:31
word
25:31
for
25:31
word.
25:32
She
25:32
just
25:32
loved
25:33
the
25:33
illustrate.
25:33
And
25:33
I've
25:33
gotten
25:34
a
25:34
lot
25:34
of
25:34
comments
25:34
about.
25:35
The
25:35
illustrations
25:36
are
25:37
very
25:37
attractive
25:37
to
25:38
kids
25:38
also.
25:39
And
25:39
I
25:40
hired
25:40
an
25:40
illustrator.
25:41
I
25:41
didn't
25:41
do
25:41
that
25:42
myself,
25:42
but
25:43
I've
25:43
used
25:43
the
25:43
same
25:44
illustrator
25:44
through
25:44
all,
25:45
for.
25:45
For
25:46
continuity,
25:46
through
25:47
all
25:47
three
25:47
of
25:47
my
25:47
first
25:48
Adventures
25:48
of
25:49
Dolphin
25:49
Gwen
25:49
series.
25:50
And
25:51
so
25:51
that
25:51
was
25:51
kind
25:51
of
25:51
the.
25:52
The
25:52
spark.
25:52
And
25:53
I
25:53
just
25:53
keeps
25:54
me
25:54
going
25:54
now
25:54
with
25:55
writing
25:55
more
25:55
books
25:55
because
25:56
kids
25:56
love
25:56
it.
25:57
That
25:57
is
25:58
fantastic.
25:59
One
25:59
of
25:59
the
26:00
things,
26:00
my
26:00
most
26:01
enjoyable,
26:02
favorite
26:02
thing
26:02
to
26:03
do
26:03
is
26:03
going
26:03
to
26:04
schools
26:04
and
26:04
visiting
26:05
schools
26:06
and
26:06
classrooms,
26:07
reading
26:08
my
26:08
story,
26:09
telling
26:10
them
26:10
about
26:10
helicopters,
26:11
you
26:11
know,
26:11
mixed
26:12
in
26:12
a
26:12
little
26:12
bit
26:12
of
26:13
STEM
26:14
technology
26:14
and
26:15
how
26:15
helicopters
26:16
work
26:16
and
26:17
telling
26:17
them
26:17
about
26:17
the
26:17
Coast
26:18
Guard
26:18
and
26:18
my.
26:19
What
26:19
they
26:19
do.
26:20
The
26:20
things
26:20
I
26:20
enjoyed
26:21
when
26:21
I
26:21
looked
26:21
at
26:21
your
26:22
website,
26:22
and
26:22
I
26:23
thought,
26:23
oh,
26:24
Darcy,
26:24
this
26:24
is
26:25
so
26:25
neat,
26:25
is
26:26
you
26:26
had
26:26
a
26:27
picture
26:27
of
26:27
one
26:27
of
26:28
the
26:28
kids
26:28
wearing
26:28
your
26:29
helmet.
26:29
And
26:29
I
26:30
thought,
26:30
oh,
26:31
my
26:31
goodness.
26:32
Now,
26:32
talk
26:33
about
26:33
excitement,
26:35
because
26:35
I
26:35
noticed
26:35
you
26:36
had
26:36
your
26:36
big
26:36
poster
26:37
with
26:38
Gwen
26:38
and
26:39
Dolph,
26:40
and,
26:40
like,
26:41
it's
26:41
huge.
26:41
So
26:41
it
26:42
feels
26:42
for
26:42
a
26:43
child.
26:43
They
26:43
must
26:43
think,
26:44
oh,
26:44
my
26:44
God,
26:44
I
26:44
could
26:45
almost
26:45
ride
26:45
in
26:46
this
26:46
helicopter
26:47
that's
26:47
right
26:47
in
26:48
front
26:48
of
26:48
me.
26:48
And.
26:49
And
26:49
Mr.
26:50
Darcy's
26:50
brought
26:51
his
26:51
helmet.
26:52
Yeah.
26:52
And
26:52
I
26:52
tell
26:52
him,
26:53
this
26:53
is
26:53
the
26:53
actual
26:53
helmet.
26:54
You
26:54
look
26:54
in
26:54
the
26:55
story
26:55
that
26:55
Gwen
26:56
on
26:56
the
26:56
COVID
26:56
she's
26:57
holding
26:57
that
26:57
helmet.
26:58
That
26:58
was
26:59
me,
26:59
and
26:59
that
26:59
was
27:00
my
27:00
helmet
27:00
that
27:00
I
27:01
used
27:01
when
27:01
I
27:01
was
27:02
flying
27:02
that
27:02
helicopter.
27:03
So
27:03
it's
27:03
just
27:04
one
27:04
of
27:04
the
27:04
props
27:04
that.
27:05
That
27:05
really
27:05
keeps
27:06
the
27:06
kids
27:06
interested.
27:07
So
27:08
I
27:08
do
27:08
a
27:08
lot
27:08
of
27:09
school
27:09
business
27:09
now,
27:10
going
27:10
around
27:11
and
27:11
just
27:11
doing
27:11
that.
27:12
I
27:12
love
27:13
that.
27:13
That's
27:13
one
27:13
of
27:14
my
27:14
favorite
27:14
things.
27:14
I
27:15
talk
27:15
to
27:15
you
27:15
a
27:15
little
27:15
bit
27:15
about
27:16
Cap
27:16
character
27:17
development.
27:17
Now,
27:18
I
27:18
know
27:18
you
27:19
said
27:19
just
27:19
as
27:20
we
27:20
started
27:20
the.
27:20
The
27:21
show,
27:21
you
27:22
were
27:22
talking
27:22
about
27:23
inspiration
27:25
so
27:25
that
27:25
your
27:26
granddaughter
27:27
could
27:27
see
27:27
a
27:28
reflection
27:29
of
27:29
herself
27:29
through
27:30
the
27:30
female
27:30
pilot,
27:31
which.
27:31
Which
27:32
I.
27:32
Which
27:32
I
27:32
love
27:33
because
27:33
actually
27:33
Caboose,
27:34
the
27:35
Rocky
27:35
Mountain
27:35
Bear,
27:36
is
27:36
named
27:36
after
27:37
Kira.
27:37
It's,
27:38
of
27:38
course,
27:38
a
27:38
female.
27:39
Tell
27:39
us
27:39
a
27:39
bit
27:40
more
27:40
about
27:41
wanting
27:41
to
27:41
make
27:42
sure
27:42
that
27:42
your
27:42
granddaughter
27:43
saw
27:44
herself
27:45
in
27:45
the
27:46
story
27:46
and
27:47
that
27:47
she
27:47
could
27:47
be
27:47
anything
27:48
she
27:48
wants
27:49
to
27:49
be.
27:49
I
27:49
mentioned,
27:50
you
27:50
know,
27:50
she's
27:51
going
27:51
to
27:51
hear
27:52
stories
27:53
about,
27:53
you
27:54
know,
27:54
my
27:54
involvement
27:55
of
27:55
flying
27:56
helicopters.
27:57
So
27:57
she's
27:57
going
27:57
to
27:57
know
27:58
her
27:58
grandpa
27:58
used
27:58
to
27:58
fly.
27:59
But
27:59
I
27:59
didn't
28:00
want
28:00
her
28:00
to
28:00
be
28:00
left
28:00
with
28:01
the
28:01
impression
28:01
that,
28:02
well,
28:02
it's
28:02
only
28:03
guys,
28:03
only
28:04
men
28:04
that
28:04
fly
28:04
helicopters.
28:05
Because
28:06
I
28:06
have
28:06
worked
28:06
with
28:07
and
28:07
known
28:07
many
28:08
female
28:08
pilots,
28:09
excellent
28:09
pilots,
28:10
throughout
28:10
my
28:10
career.
28:11
So
28:11
I
28:11
wanted
28:11
her
28:12
to
28:12
know
28:12
that
28:13
also.
28:14
Just
28:15
not
28:15
only
28:15
for
28:15
my
28:15
granddaughter,
28:16
but,
28:16
like,
28:17
when
28:17
I
28:17
go
28:17
into
28:17
schools,
28:18
I
28:18
make
28:18
sure
28:18
that
28:19
the
28:19
girls
28:19
know
28:20
that,
28:21
hey,
28:21
you
28:21
know,
28:22
they
28:22
can.
28:23
This
28:23
is
28:23
a
28:23
potentially
28:24
something.
28:24
They
28:24
could
28:25
be
28:25
a
28:25
pilot.
28:25
Doesn't
28:25
have
28:26
to
28:26
be
28:26
a
28:26
military
28:26
pilot.
28:27
Aviation
28:27
is
28:28
open
28:28
to
28:29
men
28:30
and
28:30
women,
28:31
and
28:31
so
28:31
I
28:31
encourage
28:32
that.
28:32
And
28:33
just
28:33
kind
28:34
of
28:34
as
28:34
a
28:34
side
28:34
note,
28:35
because
28:35
I.
28:36
The
28:36
main
28:36
character
28:37
is
28:38
a
28:38
woman.
28:39
My
28:39
book
28:40
was
28:40
noticed
28:41
by
28:42
a
28:43
woman,
28:43
a
28:44
lady
28:44
that
28:44
is
28:45
now
28:45
a
28:45
friend
28:45
of
28:45
mine,
28:46
but
28:46
she
28:46
is
28:46
an
28:47
advocate
28:47
of
28:48
females,
28:48
women
28:49
getting
28:49
involved
28:50
in
28:50
the
28:50
aviation
28:51
industry.
28:52
And
28:52
she
28:53
is
28:53
involved
28:53
in
28:54
an
28:54
organization
28:55
called
28:55
Women's
28:56
International
28:57
Aviation
28:57
or
28:57
something
28:58
like
28:58
that.
28:58
I
28:58
forget
28:58
the
28:58
name.
28:58
But
28:59
anyway,
29:00
so
29:00
I've
29:01
been
29:01
invited
29:01
to
29:02
Women
29:02
in
29:02
Aviation
29:03
conference
29:04
in
29:04
March.
29:05
Even
29:05
though
29:05
it's
29:06
a
29:06
conference
29:06
for
29:06
women,
29:06
I've
29:07
been
29:07
invited
29:07
to
29:07
go
29:08
because
29:08
my
29:08
book
29:09
was
29:10
advocating
29:10
for
29:11
women
29:11
in
29:12
aviation.
29:12
And
29:12
they
29:12
want
29:13
me
29:13
to
29:13
come
29:13
and.
29:14
And
29:14
show
29:15
off
29:15
my
29:15
book,
29:15
so.
29:16
Fantastic.
29:16
So
29:16
it's.
29:17
It's
29:17
a
29:17
way
29:18
to
29:18
just
29:18
encourage
29:19
people
29:20
in
29:20
the
29:20
science
29:20
and
29:21
technology
29:22
industry
29:22
or
29:23
potential
29:24
careers.
29:24
I
29:24
think
29:25
you
29:25
may
29:25
already
29:25
know
29:25
this,
29:26
but
29:26
I
29:26
want
29:26
the
29:26
audience
29:27
to
29:27
know
29:27
that
29:28
next
29:28
week
29:28
we
29:29
have
29:29
an
29:29
episode
29:30
coming
29:30
up
29:30
with
29:30
Aaron
29:31
Murphy.
29:32
Yeah.
29:32
And
29:32
Erin
29:33
Murphy
29:33
for
29:34
our
29:34
listening
29:34
audience.
29:35
Erin
29:36
is
29:36
a
29:36
pilot
29:37
for
29:37
United,
29:37
and
29:38
she
29:38
flies.
29:39
She
29:40
flies
29:40
767.
29:42
I
29:42
just
29:42
want
29:43
everybody
29:43
to
29:43
understand
29:44
that
29:45
we're
29:46
proud
29:46
grandfathers
29:47
of
29:48
granddaughters
29:49
now
29:49
that.
29:49
You
29:49
mentioned
29:50
Aaron
29:50
Murphy.
29:51
I
29:51
know
29:52
Aaron.
29:52
We're
29:53
friends.
29:53
We've
29:53
never
29:54
met
29:54
in
29:54
person,
29:54
but
29:55
we've
29:55
collaborated
29:56
and
29:56
helped
29:56
each
29:56
other
29:57
with
29:57
promoting
29:58
our
29:58
books.
29:59
And
29:59
I
30:00
initially
30:00
met
30:00
Aaron
30:01
through
30:02
our
30:02
mutual
30:03
contact
30:03
of
30:04
Liz
30:04
Booker,
30:04
who
30:05
was
30:05
the
30:05
person
30:05
I
30:05
just
30:06
mentioned
30:06
a
30:06
minute
30:06
ago,
30:07
who
30:07
first
30:08
saw
30:08
the
30:08
COVID
30:08
of
30:08
my
30:08
book
30:09
and
30:09
invited
30:09
me
30:10
to
30:10
be
30:10
involved
30:10
in
30:10
the
30:11
Women
30:11
in
30:11
Aviation
30:12
organization.
30:13
Liz
30:14
Booker
30:14
is
30:14
a
30:15
Coast
30:15
Guard
30:16
retired
30:17
Coast
30:17
Guard
30:17
helicopter
30:18
pilot.
30:18
She
30:18
flew
30:19
the
30:19
age
30:19
65.
30:20
And
30:20
the
30:20
first
30:20
time
30:20
she
30:21
saw
30:21
the
30:21
COVID
30:22
of
30:22
this
30:23
book,
30:23
she
30:23
said,
30:24
that
30:24
could
30:24
have
30:25
been
30:25
me.
30:25
That's
30:25
me
30:25
on
30:26
the
30:26
COVID
30:26
And
30:26
she
30:26
got
30:27
really
30:27
excited.
30:28
I've
30:28
been
30:28
on
30:29
Liz
30:29
Booker's
30:29
podcast,
30:30
and
30:30
so
30:31
has
30:31
Aaron
30:31
Murphy.
30:32
And
30:32
that's
30:32
how
30:32
Aaron
30:32
and
30:33
I
30:33
got
30:33
connected
30:34
was
30:34
through
30:35
a
30:35
third
30:35
party,
30:35
through
30:36
Liz
30:36
Booker.
30:37
But
30:38
that's
30:38
one
30:38
thing
30:38
I
30:38
like
30:39
about
30:39
working
30:40
with
30:40
other
30:41
children's
30:41
book
30:42
authors,
30:42
too,
30:42
especially
30:43
in
30:43
the
30:43
aviation
30:43
side
30:44
of
30:44
things,
30:44
is
30:44
we're
30:45
not
30:45
competitors,
30:45
we're
30:46
collaborators,
30:46
and
30:46
we
30:47
hope
30:47
to
30:48
promote
30:48
each
30:48
other's
30:49
books
30:49
at
30:50
book
30:51
fairs
30:52
and
30:52
on
30:53
Instagram
30:53
and
30:54
all
30:54
these
30:54
things.
30:54
So.
30:54
So
30:55
it's
30:55
a
30:56
lot
30:56
of
30:56
fun,
30:56
too.
30:56
The
30:57
underlying
30:58
theme
30:59
in
30:59
the
30:59
three
31:00
books
31:00
with
31:00
Gwen
31:01
and
31:01
Dolph,
31:01
is
31:02
there
31:02
an
31:02
underlying
31:02
theme
31:03
in
31:03
those
31:03
three
31:03
books?
31:04
Yes,
31:05
there
31:05
is,
31:05
actually.
31:06
So
31:06
I'm
31:06
telling
31:07
the
31:07
story
31:07
of
31:07
an
31:07
actual
31:09
rescue
31:10
or
31:10
events
31:11
that
31:11
I
31:11
did,
31:12
but
31:13
an
31:13
underlying
31:14
theme
31:14
is
31:15
courage,
31:16
teamwork,
31:17
and
31:17
trust.
31:18
In
31:19
my
31:19
first
31:19
book,
31:20
in
31:20
the
31:20
story
31:20
there,
31:21
the.
31:21
They
31:22
had
31:22
involved
31:22
having
31:22
to
31:23
fly
31:23
into
31:23
a
31:23
storm,
31:24
and
31:24
Dolph,
31:25
the
31:25
helicopter,
31:26
he
31:26
sees
31:26
the
31:27
thunder
31:27
and
31:27
the
31:27
lightning
31:28
storm
31:29
and
31:29
they
31:29
gonna
31:29
fly
31:30
into
31:30
it,
31:30
and
31:30
he's
31:31
scared.
31:31
And
31:32
he
31:32
tells
31:32
his
31:33
pilot,
31:33
Gwen,
31:34
that,
31:34
ooh,
31:34
I
31:34
don't
31:34
know
31:35
about
31:35
this.
31:35
I'm
31:35
pretty
31:36
nervous.
31:36
And.
31:37
And
31:37
so
31:37
kids
31:38
can
31:38
relate
31:38
to
31:38
that.
31:39
You
31:39
know,
31:39
that,
31:39
okay,
31:40
a
31:40
lot
31:40
of
31:40
kids
31:40
are
31:41
afraid
31:41
of
31:41
thunder
31:41
and
31:42
lightning
31:42
or,
31:43
you
31:43
know,
31:43
they
31:44
experience
31:45
fear
31:46
and.
31:46
And
31:47
so
31:47
forth
31:47
themselves.
31:48
So
31:48
that's
31:49
part
31:49
of
31:49
the
31:49
story
31:50
is
31:50
how
31:50
Gwen,
31:51
the
31:51
pilot,
31:51
encouraged
31:52
him
31:53
and
31:53
how
31:53
they
31:53
worked
31:54
together
31:54
to
31:54
get,
31:55
you
31:55
know,
31:55
to
31:55
still
31:56
do
31:56
the
31:56
mission.
31:56
Have
31:57
courage.
31:58
Even
31:58
though
31:58
you
31:58
still.
31:59
You
31:59
may
31:59
still
32:00
be
32:00
a
32:00
little
32:00
bit
32:00
afraid
32:01
or
32:01
nervous,
32:02
you
32:02
can
32:02
have
32:02
courage.
32:03
So
32:03
there's
32:03
that.
32:03
And
32:04
then
32:04
teamwork,
32:04
of
32:04
course,
32:05
was
32:05
a
32:05
big
32:05
part
32:05
of
32:06
completing
32:07
the
32:07
mission
32:07
successfully.
32:08
Those
32:09
are
32:09
the
32:09
underlying
32:09
themes
32:10
in
32:10
all
32:10
three
32:10
of
32:11
my.
32:11
Well,
32:11
in
32:12
all
32:12
of
32:12
my
32:12
books
32:13
that.
32:13
I've
32:13
written
32:13
so
32:13
far,
32:14
you
32:14
talked
32:15
a
32:15
lot
32:15
about
32:16
school
32:16
visits,
32:17
and
32:17
I'm
32:17
curious
32:18
on
32:18
generally,
32:19
what's
32:19
the
32:20
central
32:20
lesson
32:20
or
32:21
teaching
32:22
from
32:22
your
32:22
book.
32:22
When
32:23
you
32:23
go
32:23
into
32:23
the
32:23
school
32:24
and
32:24
you
32:24
read
32:25
it,
32:25
the
32:26
kids
32:27
get
32:27
a
32:27
sense
32:27
of
32:28
what
32:28
you're
32:29
trying
32:29
to
32:29
convey
32:30
as
32:30
a
32:30
Lesson.
32:31
Yeah,
32:31
because
32:32
I,
32:32
I,
32:32
I
32:33
read
32:33
the
32:33
story
32:34
and
32:34
then
32:34
we
32:34
talk
32:34
about
32:35
courage.
32:35
And
32:35
I
32:36
ask
32:36
them,
32:36
you
32:36
know,
32:37
what
32:37
does
32:37
courage
32:38
mean?
32:38
And
32:39
I
32:39
get
32:39
a
32:39
lot
32:40
of
32:40
input,
32:40
feedback
32:41
from
32:41
the
32:41
kids
32:42
as
32:42
to
32:43
what
32:43
are
32:44
they
32:44
afraid
32:44
of,
32:44
and
32:45
I
32:45
get
32:45
some
32:46
of
32:46
their
32:46
inputs.
32:46
And
32:47
then
32:47
we
32:47
talk
32:47
about
32:47
how
32:48
Gwen
32:49
encouraged
32:50
and
32:50
helped
32:51
Dolph
32:52
to
32:52
get
32:52
through
32:53
his
32:53
trepidations.
32:54
And
32:55
then
32:55
I
32:55
asked
32:55
them,
32:56
well,
32:56
who
32:56
could
32:56
you
32:56
talk
32:57
to
32:57
if
32:57
you're
32:57
not
32:57
feeling,
32:58
if
32:58
you're
32:59
feeling
32:59
nervous
32:59
or
32:59
afraid
33:00
of
33:00
something?
33:00
And
33:00
then
33:01
we,
33:01
they
33:01
start
33:02
throwing
33:02
out
33:02
all
33:02
the
33:02
different
33:03
people
33:03
in
33:03
their
33:03
lives
33:04
that
33:04
they
33:04
could
33:04
talk
33:04
to
33:05
about
33:05
it.
33:05
Don't
33:05
keep
33:05
it
33:06
to
33:06
yourself.
33:06
Talk
33:06
to
33:07
people.
33:07
So,
33:07
so
33:08
that's
33:08
the
33:08
central
33:08
message
33:09
for
33:09
the
33:09
younger
33:10
kids
33:10
anyway.
33:10
For
33:10
the
33:11
first
33:11
and
33:12
second
33:12
grade
33:13
age,
33:13
even
33:13
third
33:14
grade,
33:14
I
33:15
sometimes
33:15
talk
33:15
to
33:16
fourth
33:16
and
33:16
fifth
33:16
graders.
33:17
Don't
33:18
focus
33:18
so
33:18
much
33:18
on
33:19
that
33:19
aspect
33:20
of
33:20
things.
33:21
And
33:21
I,
33:21
I
33:22
get
33:22
into
33:22
a
33:22
little
33:23
bit
33:23
more
33:23
about
33:23
the
33:23
writing
33:24
process
33:25
and
33:25
publishing
33:26
process
33:26
just
33:27
to
33:27
let
33:27
them
33:27
know
33:27
a
33:27
little
33:28
bit
33:28
more
33:28
about
33:29
how
33:29
books
33:29
are
33:29
born,
33:30
where
33:30
do
33:30
they
33:30
come
33:30
from,
33:30
how
33:31
do
33:31
they
33:31
end
33:31
up
33:31
on
33:31
a.
33:32
And
33:32
that
33:33
kind
33:33
of
33:33
thing.
33:33
So
33:33
it
33:33
depends
33:34
on
33:34
the
33:34
age
33:34
of
33:34
the
33:34
kids,
33:35
but
33:35
the
33:35
younger
33:35
kids,
33:36
it's
33:36
mostly
33:36
based
33:37
on,
33:37
focused
33:37
on
33:38
courage
33:38
and
33:38
teamwork
33:39
and
33:40
trust.
33:40
Thank
33:41
you.
33:42
I
33:42
want
33:42
to
33:42
delve
33:43
into
33:43
your
33:43
writing
33:44
process
33:45
with
33:45
multiple
33:46
children's
33:46
books.
33:47
Can
33:47
you
33:48
share
33:48
some
33:48
insights
33:49
into
33:50
your
33:50
development
33:51
and
33:52
writing
33:52
process
33:53
for
33:53
your
33:54
children's
33:54
books?
33:55
So
33:55
kind
33:55
of
33:55
explain
33:56
what's
33:56
a
33:57
day
33:57
in
33:57
writing
33:58
look
33:59
like
33:59
for
34:00
Mr.
34:00
Darcy.
34:01
Okay.
34:02
Because
34:03
my
34:04
stories
34:05
are
34:05
based
34:05
on
34:06
actual
34:06
events,
34:07
I
34:08
don't
34:08
have
34:08
to
34:09
write
34:09
a
34:10
fiction
34:10
story
34:11
and
34:11
come
34:11
up
34:11
with
34:12
characters
34:12
and
34:12
all
34:12
that.
34:12
I
34:12
just
34:13
basically
34:13
got
34:13
to
34:13
tell
34:14
my
34:14
story.
34:15
But
34:15
I
34:16
add
34:16
in
34:16
a
34:16
couple
34:16
of,
34:17
I
34:17
changed
34:17
the
34:18
characters.
34:18
I've
34:18
got
34:18
Dolph,
34:19
of
34:19
course,
34:19
now
34:19
I've
34:20
got
34:20
Gwen,
34:20
but
34:21
I
34:21
also
34:21
have
34:22
the
34:22
crew
34:22
on
34:22
the
34:22
helicopter
34:23
that
34:23
were
34:23
with
34:23
me.
34:24
So
34:24
it's
34:25
a
34:25
true
34:25
story.
34:26
When
34:26
I
34:27
first
34:27
decide,
34:27
okay,
34:28
I'm
34:28
going
34:28
to
34:28
write
34:28
this
34:29
next
34:29
book,
34:30
I'll
34:30
spend
34:30
an
34:30
afternoon
34:31
just
34:32
writing
34:32
the
34:33
story.
34:33
I
34:33
just
34:33
write,
34:34
write,
34:34
write,
34:34
write
34:35
down
34:35
the
34:35
story.
34:35
What
34:35
happened
34:36
next?
34:37
Where
34:37
was,
34:37
where
34:38
were
34:38
we?
34:38
When
34:38
did
34:39
it
34:39
happen,
34:39
all
34:39
this
34:39
kind
34:40
of
34:40
stuff,
34:40
how
34:40
did
34:40
it
34:41
conclude?
34:42
So
34:42
I
34:43
can,
34:43
within
34:43
a
34:43
matter
34:44
of
34:44
a
34:44
couple
34:44
hours,
34:45
I
34:45
can
34:45
write
34:45
out
34:45
an
34:45
initial
34:46
draft
34:46
of
34:46
the
34:47
story
34:47
pretty
34:48
quickly.
34:48
But
34:49
then
34:50
you
34:50
go
34:50
back,
34:50
and
34:51
now
34:51
you
34:51
got
34:51
to
34:51
smooth
34:52
it
34:52
out.
34:53
My
34:53
first
34:54
book,
34:54
into
34:54
the
34:54
Storm,
34:55
I
34:55
did
34:55
a
34:56
draft
34:57
and
34:57
I
34:57
shared
34:58
it
34:58
with
34:58
one
34:58
of
34:58
my
34:58
teacher
34:59
friends,
34:59
a
35:00
first
35:00
grade
35:00
teacher,
35:01
and
35:01
she
35:02
read
35:02
it
35:02
and
35:03
she
35:04
gave
35:04
it
35:04
back
35:04
to
35:04
me
35:04
and
35:04
she
35:05
said,
35:05
way
35:06
too
35:06
long,
35:06
too
35:07
many
35:07
words,
35:07
you
35:08
gotta
35:08
shorten
35:08
it
35:08
up.
35:09
I
35:09
said,
35:09
okay,
35:10
I
35:10
didn't
35:10
know
35:10
that.
35:10
So
35:11
I
35:11
ended
35:12
up
35:12
cutting
35:12
out
35:13
half
35:13
of
35:13
the
35:13
words.
35:13
And
35:14
she.
35:14
One
35:15
thing
35:15
she
35:15
told
35:15
me
35:15
that
35:15
was
35:16
very
35:16
important
35:16
for
35:16
children's
35:17
books
35:17
is
35:17
you're
35:18
going
35:18
to
35:18
have
35:18
illustrations.
35:19
You
35:19
don't
35:19
have
35:19
to
35:20
describe
35:20
or
35:21
use
35:21
a
35:21
lot
35:21
of
35:21
words
35:21
to
35:22
describe
35:22
the
35:22
scenery
35:23
or
35:23
set
35:24
the
35:24
scene,
35:24
because
35:24
you're
35:25
going
35:25
to
35:25
have
35:25
illustrations
35:26
that
35:26
the
35:26
kids
35:26
are
35:26
going
35:26
to
35:26
look
35:27
at
35:27
that
35:27
story.
35:28
So
35:29
that
35:29
helped
35:29
a
35:29
lot
35:30
once
35:30
I
35:30
kept
35:31
that
35:31
in
35:31
mind,
35:31
you
35:31
know,
35:31
when.
35:32
I
35:32
did
35:32
my
35:32
research,
35:33
I
35:33
found
35:33
when
35:33
I
35:34
first
35:34
started
35:34
to
35:35
write
35:35
a
35:35
children's
35:36
book,
35:36
and
35:37
like,
35:37
now
35:37
we've
35:37
written
35:38
multiple.
35:39
The
35:39
one
35:40
recommendation
35:40
I
35:41
had
35:41
heard
35:41
about,
35:41
especially
35:42
if
35:42
it's
35:42
a
35:42
illustrative
35:43
book,
35:44
is
35:44
between
35:44
five
35:45
and
35:45
a
35:46
thousand
35:46
words,
35:46
maximum.
35:47
Exactly.
35:48
That's
35:48
been
35:48
my
35:48
target.
35:49
Yep,
35:49
target.
35:50
But
35:50
I
35:51
usually
35:51
always
35:52
go
35:52
way
35:53
over
35:53
that.
35:53
And
35:53
then
35:54
I
35:54
have
35:54
to
35:54
edit
35:55
and
35:55
trim
35:55
it
35:55
down
35:56
and
35:56
edit
35:56
again
35:57
and.
35:57
And
35:58
to
35:58
go
35:58
through
35:58
a
35:58
lot
35:58
of
35:59
editing
35:59
and
35:59
having
36:00
some
36:00
friends
36:00
and
36:01
other
36:01
people
36:01
read
36:02
it.
36:02
But
36:03
even
36:03
after
36:03
all
36:03
that,
36:04
I
36:04
still
36:04
involve
36:05
a
36:05
professional
36:06
editor.
36:07
Do
36:07
you
36:07
visualize
36:08
the
36:09
illustration
36:10
to
36:10
help
36:11
you
36:11
cut
36:11
down
36:11
on
36:11
your
36:12
words?
36:12
Uh,
36:13
yes.
36:13
I
36:13
don't
36:14
draw
36:14
them
36:14
out,
36:15
but
36:15
I
36:15
know
36:16
as
36:16
I'm
36:16
writing
36:17
what
36:17
it
36:17
should
36:17
look
36:18
like.
36:18
And
36:19
then
36:19
when
36:19
I
36:19
get
36:20
with
36:20
an
36:20
illustrator,
36:21
I
36:22
give
36:22
them
36:22
a
36:22
lot
36:22
of
36:22
details
36:23
about
36:24
what
36:24
this
36:25
scene
36:25
looks
36:26
like.
36:26
It's
36:27
interesting
36:27
you
36:27
should
36:28
say
36:28
that,
36:28
because
36:29
I
36:29
mentioned
36:30
we're
36:30
working
36:30
on
36:30
our
36:31
second
36:31
book,
36:31
and
36:32
it's
36:33
now
36:33
the.
36:34
One
36:34
of
36:34
the
36:34
pages
36:35
has
36:35
gone
36:35
to
36:35
the
36:35
illustrator.
36:36
This
36:37
one's
36:37
probably
36:38
the
36:38
most
36:39
important
36:39
page
36:39
in
36:40
the
36:40
whole
36:40
book
36:41
because
36:41
we're
36:41
actually
36:42
introducing
36:42
four
36:43
new
36:43
characters
36:44
all
36:44
at
36:45
once.
36:45
So,
36:46
you
36:46
know,
36:46
trying
36:47
to
36:47
do
36:47
that
36:48
and
36:48
still
36:48
convey
36:49
a
36:49
story
36:50
can
36:50
be
36:50
a
36:50
little
36:51
difficult.
36:51
But
36:51
I.
36:52
I'm.
36:52
I've
36:52
got
36:52
a
36:53
good
36:53
illustrator,
36:53
so
36:54
I
36:54
hope
36:54
he's
36:54
up
36:54
for
36:55
the
36:55
challenge,
36:55
that's
36:56
for
36:56
sure.
36:56
What
36:57
was
36:57
interesting
36:57
about
36:57
my
36:58
illustrator,
36:58
he
36:59
actually
36:59
lives
36:59
in
37:00
Ukraine,
37:01
the
37:01
country
37:01
of
37:01
Ukraine.
37:02
And
37:03
I
37:03
don't
37:03
know
37:04
if
37:04
he's
37:04
ever
37:04
even
37:04
seen
37:05
the
37:05
ocean.
37:05
So
37:05
here
37:06
are.
37:06
He's
37:06
helping
37:07
me
37:07
to
37:07
illustrate
37:08
a
37:08
story
37:08
about
37:09
a
37:09
coast
37:09
guard
37:10
adventure
37:11
on.
37:11
On
37:11
the
37:12
ocean
37:12
in
37:12
a
37:12
storm.
37:13
So
37:14
there
37:14
was
37:14
a
37:14
lot
37:15
of
37:15
back
37:15
and
37:15
forth
37:15
between
37:16
him
37:16
and
37:16
I
37:17
describing.
37:18
And
37:18
I.
37:18
And
37:18
then
37:18
I
37:18
would
37:19
send
37:19
him
37:19
pictures
37:19
of
37:19
the
37:20
actual
37:20
helicopter
37:21
and,
37:21
you
37:22
know,
37:22
I'd
37:22
send
37:22
him
37:23
photographs.
37:23
This
37:24
is
37:24
what
37:24
the
37:24
ocean
37:24
looks
37:25
like
37:25
in
37:25
a
37:25
storm,
37:26
you
37:26
know,
37:26
and
37:26
he
37:27
would
37:27
go,
37:27
oh,
37:27
okay.
37:27
And
37:28
then
37:28
he'd.
37:28
He'd
37:28
make
37:28
it
37:28
into
37:29
a
37:29
children.
37:29
My
37:30
illustrator
37:30
actually
37:31
is
37:31
in
37:32
England,
37:33
and
37:33
our
37:34
whole
37:34
book
37:34
takes
37:35
place
37:36
in.
37:36
In
37:36
an
37:37
actual
37:37
real
37:37
town.
37:38
But
37:38
we've
37:38
we've
37:39
changed
37:39
the
37:39
name
37:40
of
37:41
it
37:41
from
37:42
Cammore
37:43
to
37:44
Big
37:44
Head.
37:45
And
37:45
what's
37:46
interesting
37:46
is
37:47
that
37:47
I
37:47
know
37:48
he's
37:48
never
37:48
been
37:49
to
37:49
the
37:49
Rocky
37:49
Mountains
37:50
yet.
37:50
That's
37:51
a
37:51
big
37:51
part
37:51
of
37:52
our
37:52
whole
37:52
adventure
37:53
series.
37:53
So
37:54
it's
37:54
interesting
37:54
you
37:55
should
37:55
say
37:55
that.
37:55
Whether
37:56
it's
37:56
an
37:56
ocean
37:56
or
37:57
a
37:57
mountain,
37:58
as
37:58
long
37:58
as
37:59
you
37:59
get
37:59
a
37:59
good
37:59
illustrator
38:00
and
38:00
you
38:00
can
38:00
give
38:00
them
38:00
guidance,
38:01
it's
38:02
incredible
38:02
what
38:02
they
38:02
do.
38:03
Oh
38:03
yeah.
38:04
I
38:05
could
38:05
never
38:05
do
38:05
it
38:05
myself.
38:06
I
38:06
definitely
38:07
have
38:07
to
38:08
get
38:09
help
38:09
with
38:09
that.
38:09
That
38:10
makes
38:10
two
38:10
of
38:10
us.
38:11
So
38:11
I'm
38:11
also
38:11
curious
38:12
because
38:12
you
38:12
talked
38:13
about
38:13
your
38:13
personal
38:14
experience,
38:14
said,
38:15
you
38:15
know
38:15
what,
38:15
Rick?
38:15
I've
38:16
got
38:16
no
38:16
problem
38:16
in
38:17
writing
38:17
the
38:17
story
38:17
because
38:18
I
38:18
just
38:18
draw
38:18
upon
38:19
my
38:19
personal
38:19
experience.
38:20
Did
38:21
you
38:21
do
38:22
any
38:23
additional
38:23
research
38:24
when
38:25
you,
38:25
when
38:25
you
38:25
started
38:26
trimming
38:27
the
38:27
story
38:28
back?
38:29
Tell,
38:29
tell
38:29
us
38:29
about
38:30
that?
38:30
Not
38:30
a
38:31
lot.
38:31
There
38:31
wasn't
38:31
really
38:32
a
38:32
lot
38:32
of
38:33
necessity
38:34
for
38:34
that
38:34
since,
38:35
you
38:35
know,
38:35
I
38:35
knew
38:36
about.
38:37
There
38:37
was
38:37
nothing
38:38
for
38:38
me
38:38
to
38:38
research
38:38
as
38:39
far
38:39
as
38:39
the
38:39
mission
38:39
because
38:40
I,
38:40
I
38:40
knew
38:41
from
38:41
personal
38:42
experience
38:42
what,
38:42
where
38:43
it
38:43
was.
38:43
And
38:43
that
38:43
was
38:44
true
38:44
for
38:44
all
38:45
three
38:45
of
38:45
my,
38:46
well,
38:46
now
38:46
all
38:46
four
38:47
of
38:47
my
38:47
books.
38:48
So
38:48
I
38:48
didn't
38:48
have
38:48
to,
38:49
I
38:49
didn't
38:50
do
38:50
that.
38:50
Now,
38:51
okay,
38:51
people
38:52
to
38:52
understand
38:52
that,
38:53
you
38:53
know
38:53
what
38:53
I
38:53
mean?
38:53
There's
38:54
different
38:54
ways
38:54
of
38:55
doing
38:55
it.
38:55
After
38:56
25
38:57
years,
38:57
you
38:57
definitely
38:58
have
38:58
had
38:58
a,
38:59
you
38:59
know,
39:00
an
39:00
extensive
39:01
background,
39:02
so
39:03
you've
39:03
got
39:03
lots
39:03
to
39:04
draw
39:04
upon.
39:05
And
39:06
so
39:06
I
39:06
just
39:06
want
39:06
people
39:06
to
39:07
understand
39:07
sometimes
39:07
you've
39:08
got
39:08
to
39:08
go
39:08
out,
39:08
even
39:08
with
39:09
a
39:09
children's
39:09
book
39:09
and
39:10
do
39:10
a
39:10
little
39:10
bit
39:10
of
39:10
research.
39:11
But
39:11
don't
39:12
be
39:12
afraid.
39:12
Either
39:13
way,
39:13
whatever
39:14
works
39:14
for
39:14
you
39:15
produces
39:16
the
39:16
same
39:16
results.
39:17
I
39:17
want
39:17
to
39:18
get
39:18
around
39:18
to
39:18
success.
39:19
When
39:20
I
39:20
talk
39:20
to
39:20
people
39:21
about
39:21
success
39:22
measurement.
39:23
Can
39:23
you
39:23
tell
39:23
us
39:24
about
39:24
your
39:25
original
39:25
goal?
39:26
I
39:26
know
39:27
you
39:27
originally
39:27
said
39:28
one
39:28
and
39:29
done.
39:29
Tell
39:30
us
39:30
about
39:30
your
39:30
original
39:31
goal
39:31
or
39:31
goals
39:32
regarding
39:33
your
39:33
first
39:34
book
39:34
launch.
39:35
First
39:35
book
39:36
launch
39:36
was
39:36
to
39:37
hopefully
39:37
eventually
39:38
earn
39:39
back
39:39
my
39:39
investment.
39:40
You
39:40
know,
39:40
as
39:40
a,
39:41
as
39:41
a
39:41
self
39:42
publisher,
39:43
you
39:44
pay
39:44
for
39:44
it
39:44
all
39:44
out
39:44
of
39:45
your
39:45
pocket.
39:45
And
39:46
with
39:46
a
39:46
children's
39:47
book,
39:48
for
39:48
me,
39:48
the
39:49
biggest
39:49
expense
39:49
was
39:50
the
39:50
illustrator.
39:51
They
39:51
get
39:52
paid
39:52
good
39:53
money
39:53
because
39:54
they
39:54
have
39:54
a
39:54
skill
39:55
and
39:55
it's
39:56
well
39:56
worth
39:56
it
39:56
if
39:56
you
39:57
have
39:57
a
39:57
good
39:57
illustrator.
39:57
So
39:58
you
39:58
make
39:58
this
39:59
investment
39:59
upfront
40:00
for
40:01
getting
40:02
the
40:02
book
40:02
published
40:03
and
40:03
then
40:03
you
40:03
gotta
40:04
get
40:04
your
40:05
print
40:05
pay
40:05
for
40:06
printing
40:06
your
40:06
first
40:06
batch.
40:07
So
40:08
my
40:09
goal
40:09
was
40:10
to
40:10
try
40:10
to
40:10
make
40:11
my
40:11
investment
40:12
back
40:12
over
40:13
time.
40:14
And
40:14
I
40:14
didn't
40:15
get
40:15
into
40:15
this
40:16
as
40:16
a
40:17
career.
40:18
It's
40:18
not
40:18
fame
40:19
and
40:19
fortune.
40:20
It's
40:20
not
40:20
fame
40:20
and
40:21
fortune.
40:21
No.
40:22
I
40:22
always
40:22
say
40:23
that
40:23
if
40:23
you
40:23
get
40:24
into
40:24
children's
40:25
book
40:25
writing
40:26
for
40:26
fame
40:26
and
40:26
fortune,
40:27
you've
40:27
gone
40:28
into
40:28
the
40:28
wrong
40:28
career.
40:29
And
40:29
you
40:30
know
40:30
what's
40:30
funny
40:30
is
40:31
for
40:31
some
40:31
reason
40:32
kids
40:33
and
40:33
even
40:33
adults
40:34
think
40:34
that
40:34
if
40:34
you're
40:35
a
40:35
published
40:35
author,
40:36
that
40:37
you
40:37
now
40:38
have
40:38
a
40:38
lot
40:38
of
40:38
money,
40:38
that
40:39
you're
40:39
a
40:39
millionaire,
40:39
you're
40:40
rich.
40:41
And
40:41
they're
40:42
surprised
40:42
to
40:42
know
40:42
that,
40:43
no,
40:43
I
40:44
haven't
40:44
made
40:44
any
40:44
money
40:45
yet
40:45
and
40:45
it
40:45
may
40:46
be
40:46
years
40:46
before
40:47
I
40:47
earned
40:48
back
40:48
my
40:48
investment.
40:49
But
40:50
they
40:50
think
40:50
of
40:50
people
40:51
like
40:51
the
40:52
very
40:53
famous
40:54
children's
40:54
books,
40:55
the
40:55
Dr.
40:55
Seuss's,
40:56
the
40:56
J.K.
40:57
rowlings,
40:57
Harry
40:58
Potter
40:58
type
40:58
of
40:58
people.
40:59
And
41:00
those
41:00
are
41:00
very,
41:00
very
41:01
rare.
41:01
I'm
41:01
trying
41:01
to
41:02
give
41:02
aspiring
41:02
authors
41:03
some
41:04
realism.
41:04
That's
41:05
why
41:05
I
41:05
talk
41:05
about
41:05
success.
41:06
I
41:06
don't
41:07
know
41:07
about
41:07
your
41:07
calculations,
41:08
but
41:08
I
41:09
calculated
41:10
we're
41:10
going
41:10
to
41:10
have
41:10
to
41:11
sell
41:11
between
41:11
1100
41:12
and
41:12
1500
41:14
books
41:14
just
41:15
to
41:15
break
41:15
even.
41:16
That
41:16
doesn't
41:16
include
41:17
my
41:17
time,
41:18
that
41:18
just
41:19
includes
41:19
all
41:19
the
41:19
expenses
41:20
to
41:21
bring
41:21
it
41:21
to
41:21
market.
41:22
I
41:22
just
41:22
want
41:22
people
41:23
to
41:23
understand
41:23
that
41:24
you
41:24
get
41:24
into
41:24
it
41:25
and
41:25
it's
41:25
certainly
41:26
not
41:26
about
41:26
fame
41:27
and
41:27
fortune.
41:28
Talking
41:28
about
41:28
success,
41:29
measures
41:29
of
41:29
success,
41:30
it's
41:30
not
41:30
about
41:30
the
41:31
money.
41:31
I
41:31
don't
41:31
really
41:32
look
41:32
at
41:32
book
41:32
sales
41:33
or
41:33
money
41:34
as
41:34
a
41:34
measure
41:34
of
41:35
success.
41:35
I
41:36
feel
41:36
I've
41:36
been
41:37
successful
41:37
when
41:37
I
41:38
get
41:38
the
41:38
feedback
41:38
from
41:38
the
41:39
kids,
41:39
which
41:40
I
41:40
get
41:40
frequently,
41:41
how
41:41
they
41:42
just
41:42
love
41:42
these
41:43
books,
41:43
they
41:43
can't
41:43
wait
41:44
for
41:44
the
41:44
next
41:44
one.
41:44
They
41:45
read
41:45
them
41:45
over
41:45
and
41:45
over
41:46
again.
41:46
I
41:46
hear
41:46
that
41:47
feedback
41:47
from,
41:48
from
41:48
the
41:48
kids
41:48
that
41:49
read
41:49
them
41:49
and
41:49
the
41:50
parents
41:51
and,
41:51
and
41:51
then
41:52
when
41:52
I
41:53
go
41:53
to,
41:53
I
41:54
do
41:54
a
41:54
lot
41:54
of
41:54
in
41:55
person
41:55
events,
41:56
vendor
41:56
events
41:56
and
41:57
book
41:57
signings
41:58
and
41:58
just
41:58
talking
41:59
to
41:59
the
41:59
people
41:59
when
41:59
they
41:59
come
42:00
up
42:00
to
42:00
my
42:00
table
42:00
and
42:01
I
42:01
sign
42:01
the
42:01
book
42:02
and
42:02
they
42:03
want
42:03
to
42:03
talk
42:03
about
42:03
the
42:04
Coast
42:04
Guard
42:04
or
42:05
they
42:05
want
42:05
to
42:05
talk
42:05
about
42:06
their
42:06
first
42:06
helicopter
42:07
ride,
42:07
or
42:07
they
42:07
have
42:08
questions,
42:08
want
42:09
us
42:09
to
42:09
share
42:09
stories.
42:10
And
42:10
I
42:10
just
42:10
have
42:11
all
42:11
this
42:11
great
42:12
feedback
42:12
and
42:12
interaction
42:13
with
42:13
people
42:14
at
42:14
these
42:14
events.
42:15
That's,
42:15
that's
42:16
just
42:16
one
42:16
of
42:16
my
42:17
measures
42:17
of
42:18
success
42:18
is
42:18
I
42:18
get
42:18
to
42:19
talk
42:19
to
42:19
people
42:19
and
42:20
they're
42:20
interested.
42:21
Darcy
42:21
last
42:21
week
42:22
I
42:22
talked
42:22
to,
42:23
I
42:23
call
42:24
her
42:24
a
42:24
newly
42:24
minted
42:25
book
42:25
author
42:26
and
42:26
I
42:26
talked
42:27
to
42:27
her
42:27
about
42:27
success
42:28
and
42:28
she
42:28
said,
42:28
you
42:28
know,
42:29
when
42:29
I
42:30
got
42:30
my
42:30
first
42:31
book
42:31
review,
42:32
that
42:32
was
42:33
a
42:33
big
42:33
part
42:34
of
42:34
my
42:34
success.
42:35
And
42:36
you
42:36
know
42:36
what?
42:36
I
42:36
know
42:37
exactly
42:37
how
42:37
she
42:38
feels.
42:38
When
42:38
you,
42:38
when
42:39
you
42:39
can
42:39
go
42:40
onto
42:40
Amazon
42:40
and
42:41
read
42:41
those
42:42
reviews
42:42
from
42:43
people
42:43
you
42:43
don't
42:44
even
42:44
know,
42:45
pretty,
42:45
pretty
42:46
satisfying.
42:47
I
42:47
want
42:47
to
42:47
pick
42:48
up
42:48
on
42:48
what
42:48
you
42:48
talked
42:49
about
42:49
because
42:49
when
42:49
I
42:50
looked
42:50
at
42:50
your
42:50
website,
42:51
when
42:52
I
42:52
listened
42:53
to
42:53
you
42:54
about
42:54
your
42:55
school
42:55
visits
42:56
and
42:57
you
42:57
mentioned
42:58
that
42:58
you've
42:58
got
42:58
over
42:58
a
42:59
thousand
42:59
hours
42:59
of
43:00
volunteer
43:00
Work
43:01
in
43:01
the
43:01
public
43:01
school
43:02
system.
43:02
I
43:02
thought,
43:03
wow,
43:04
that's
43:04
incredible.
43:05
So
43:06
talk
43:06
to
43:06
us
43:07
about
43:07
that
43:08
feeling
43:09
and
43:10
also
43:11
talk
43:11
to
43:11
us
43:12
about
43:13
how
43:13
is
43:13
the.
43:13
How
43:14
is
43:14
the
43:14
school
43:15
visits
43:15
and
43:16
the
43:16
interaction
43:16
with
43:16
the
43:17
kids
43:17
helping
43:17
you
43:18
with
43:19
your
43:19
books?
43:20
I
43:20
actually
43:20
started
43:21
volunteering
43:22
in
43:22
the
43:22
school
43:23
system
43:23
before
43:23
I
43:24
started
43:24
writing.
43:25
So
43:25
that
43:25
wasn't
43:26
something
43:27
that.
43:27
Because
43:27
I
43:28
had
43:28
books,
43:28
now
43:28
I'm
43:28
going
43:28
to
43:28
go
43:29
volunteer
43:29
to
43:30
use
43:30
that
43:30
as
43:30
a
43:30
marketing
43:31
scheme
43:32
or
43:32
ploy.
43:33
The
43:33
two
43:33
kind
43:33
of
43:33
go
43:34
hand
43:34
in
43:34
hand.
43:34
Because
43:35
I
43:35
was
43:35
a
43:35
volunteer,
43:36
it
43:36
kind
43:36
of
43:36
opened
43:36
the
43:37
door
43:37
for
43:37
me
43:38
to
43:38
be
43:38
able
43:38
to
43:38
go
43:38
and
43:39
talk
43:39
to
43:39
schools.
43:40
And
43:40
then
43:40
word
43:40
of
43:41
mouth
43:41
has
43:41
helped
43:41
a
43:42
lot
43:42
from
43:42
getting
43:43
into
43:43
schools.
43:43
But
43:44
I
43:44
love
43:45
sharing
43:45
the
43:45
story
43:46
with
43:46
kids
43:47
and
43:47
teaching
43:48
them.
43:49
I
43:49
mix
43:49
in
43:49
some
43:50
science,
43:50
you
43:51
know,
43:51
about
43:51
helicopter
43:52
aerodynamics,
43:53
and
43:54
I
43:54
do
43:54
some
43:55
demonstrations
43:55
to
43:56
the
43:56
kids,
43:56
the
43:56
difference
43:56
between
43:57
airplanes
43:57
and
43:57
helicopters.
43:58
So
43:58
they're
43:58
learning
43:58
about
43:59
that.
43:59
And
43:59
then
43:59
we
43:59
talk
43:59
about
44:00
courage
44:01
and
44:01
all
44:01
these
44:02
kinds
44:02
of
44:02
things.
44:03
But
44:03
what
44:03
I've
44:04
started
44:04
doing
44:04
recently,
44:05
because
44:06
I'm
44:06
doing
44:06
a
44:06
lot
44:06
more
44:07
school
44:07
visits,
44:08
is
44:08
asking
44:08
the
44:09
school
44:09
to
44:10
somehow
44:11
either
44:11
send
44:11
home
44:12
a
44:12
flyer
44:13
or
44:13
a
44:14
book
44:14
order
44:14
form
44:15
so
44:15
that
44:15
the
44:15
parents
44:16
can
44:16
buy
44:16
the
44:16
book.
44:16
It
44:17
helps
44:17
to
44:17
increase
44:18
my
44:18
sales
44:19
for
44:19
families
44:20
or
44:20
parents
44:20
that
44:20
want
44:21
to
44:21
have
44:21
copies
44:22
of
44:22
their
44:22
own.
44:23
So
44:23
it
44:23
helps
44:24
with
44:24
a
44:24
little
44:25
marketing
44:25
a
44:26
little
44:26
bit.
44:26
Um,
44:27
I
44:27
don't
44:27
get
44:28
a
44:28
lot
44:28
of
44:29
book
44:29
sales
44:30
because
44:30
of
44:30
school
44:30
visits,
44:31
but.
44:31
But
44:32
it
44:32
all
44:32
adds
44:32
up.
44:32
That's
44:33
not.
44:33
My
44:33
motivation
44:34
is
44:34
to
44:34
go
44:35
into
44:35
schools
44:35
to
44:35
try
44:35
to
44:35
sell
44:36
books,
44:36
is
44:36
to
44:36
go
44:36
in
44:37
and
44:37
tell.
44:37
And
44:37
it's
44:38
not
44:38
like
44:38
kids
44:38
are
44:38
walking
44:39
around
44:39
with
44:39
20
44:40
bucks
44:40
and
44:40
they
44:40
say,
44:41
okay,
44:41
here,
44:42
I'll
44:42
take.
44:42
I'll
44:42
take
44:43
two
44:43
copies,
44:43
please.
44:44
I
44:44
want
44:44
to
44:45
talk
44:45
about
44:45
the
44:45
role
44:46
of
44:46
writing
44:46
because,
44:47
you
44:47
know,
44:47
you
44:48
had
44:48
a
44:48
full
44:49
career,
44:50
and
44:50
I'm
44:51
just
44:51
wondering
44:52
now,
44:52
how
44:53
is
44:53
being
44:53
a
44:53
children's
44:54
book
44:54
author,
44:55
how
44:55
has
44:56
that
44:57
helped
44:57
you
44:57
in
44:58
the
44:58
grand
44:58
scheme
44:58
of
44:59
things
44:59
in.
44:59
In
45:00
your
45:00
current
45:00
life?
45:01
I
45:01
pay
45:01
a
45:01
lot
45:02
more
45:02
attention
45:03
to
45:03
children's
45:04
books
45:04
now
45:05
that
45:05
I
45:05
have
45:05
one,
45:06
and
45:07
there
45:07
are
45:07
several.
45:08
I.
45:08
When
45:08
I'm
45:09
at
45:09
the
45:09
library,
45:10
I'm
45:10
looking
45:11
at
45:11
children's
45:12
books
45:12
to
45:12
see
45:13
how
45:14
other
45:14
children's
45:15
book
45:15
authors
45:16
are
45:16
approaching
45:17
things,
45:17
see
45:18
what
45:18
their
45:18
covers
45:18
look
45:18
like,
45:19
seeing
45:19
their
45:19
styles
45:21
and
45:21
the
45:21
topics,
45:22
you
45:22
know,
45:22
what
45:22
are
45:23
the
45:23
books
45:23
about?
45:24
And
45:24
so
45:25
that's
45:25
kind
45:25
of
45:25
opened
45:25
my
45:25
eyes
45:26
to
45:26
what
45:26
kids
45:27
are.
45:27
Are
45:27
being
45:27
exposed
45:28
to
45:28
in
45:29
the
45:29
school
45:29
system,
45:30
in
45:30
their
45:30
libraries,
45:31
and
45:32
all
45:32
the
45:32
different
45:32
things
45:33
there.
45:33
And
45:33
then
45:34
I
45:34
do
45:34
a
45:35
lot.
45:35
It
45:35
has
45:36
helped
45:36
with
45:37
every
45:37
book.
45:38
It's
45:38
a
45:38
little
45:38
bit
45:39
easier
45:39
and
45:39
a
45:39
little
45:39
bit
45:40
better
45:40
that
45:40
I
45:40
write
45:41
because
45:41
now
45:42
I'm
45:42
able
45:42
to
45:43
use
45:44
not
45:44
only
45:44
my
45:44
experience,
45:45
but
45:45
I
45:45
kind
45:45
of
45:46
know,
45:46
have
45:46
an
45:46
eye
45:47
for
45:47
what
45:48
else
45:48
is
45:48
out
45:48
there
45:49
and
45:49
seeing
45:49
how
45:50
I
45:50
can
45:50
incorporate
45:51
those
45:52
techniques
45:53
and
45:53
ideas
45:54
into
45:54
my,
45:55
my
45:55
next
45:55
book
45:56
or
45:56
my
45:56
next
45:56
story.
45:57
So
45:57
that,
45:58
that
45:58
has
45:58
helped
45:58
me
45:59
to
45:59
progress
46:00
as
46:00
a
46:00
professional
46:01
author
46:02
and,
46:02
and
46:03
get
46:03
better
46:03
at
46:03
my
46:04
craft,
46:04
I
46:04
guess
46:05
you
46:05
could
46:05
say,
46:05
which
46:06
to
46:06
me
46:06
still
46:06
sounds
46:07
very
46:07
weird
46:07
to
46:08
say
46:08
because
46:08
I
46:08
never
46:09
ever
46:09
thought
46:09
I'd
46:09
be
46:09
an
46:10
author
46:10
of
46:11
anything.
46:11
But
46:12
now
46:12
to
46:12
say,
46:12
well,
46:13
yeah,
46:13
I'm
46:13
a
46:13
professional
46:14
author
46:14
and
46:14
I'm,
46:14
yeah,
46:15
I'm
46:15
an
46:15
award
46:16
winning
46:16
author.
46:16
I've
46:17
won
46:17
some
46:17
awards
46:17
and
46:17
it's
46:18
like,
46:18
how
46:18
did
46:19
that
46:19
happen?
46:19
You
46:19
know,
46:20
that's
46:20
fantastic.
46:20
Never
46:20
was
46:20
in
46:21
the
46:21
cards.
46:21
When
46:22
you
46:22
get
46:22
up
46:22
in
46:22
the
46:22
morning.
46:23
I'm
46:23
just
46:23
thinking
46:24
kind
46:24
of
46:24
out
46:25
loud
46:25
here
46:25
a
46:25
bit,
46:25
but
46:25
when
46:25
you
46:26
get
46:26
up
46:26
in
46:26
the
46:26
morning,
46:26
how
46:27
does,
46:27
how
46:27
does
46:27
this
46:28
whole
46:28
writing
46:29
thing
46:29
fit
46:29
into
46:29
your,
46:30
into
46:31
your
46:31
life,
46:32
into
46:32
your
46:33
daily
46:33
routine?
46:34
My
46:35
routine.
46:36
I
46:36
kind
46:36
of
46:36
wake
46:37
up
46:37
and
46:37
spend
46:38
a
46:38
lot
46:38
of
46:38
my
46:38
time
46:39
thinking
46:40
now
46:40
about
46:41
marketing.
46:42
At
46:43
some
46:43
point
46:43
you
46:44
go
46:44
from
46:44
writing
46:44
your
46:45
books
46:45
and
46:45
spending
46:46
a
46:46
lot
46:46
of
46:46
time,
46:47
you
46:47
know,
46:47
just
46:48
producing
46:48
the
46:48
book
46:48
and
46:49
getting
46:49
it
46:49
published.
46:50
But
46:51
then
46:52
unless
46:52
you
46:52
do
46:52
some
46:53
marketing,
46:53
it's
46:54
going
46:54
to
46:54
sit
46:54
there
46:54
and
46:55
nobody's
46:55
going
46:55
to
46:55
know
46:55
about
46:56
it.
46:56
You
46:56
wrote
46:56
the
46:56
book
46:57
for
46:57
a
46:57
reason.
46:57
And
46:57
this
46:58
is
46:58
for
46:58
prospective
46:59
authors
47:00
that
47:01
not
47:01
very
47:01
many
47:02
people
47:02
decide
47:03
they
47:03
want
47:03
to
47:03
be
47:03
an
47:04
author
47:04
because
47:04
they
47:04
love
47:05
marketing.
47:05
They
47:06
love
47:06
writing
47:07
and
47:07
producing
47:08
the
47:08
stories
47:09
and
47:09
telling
47:09
the
47:09
stories.
47:10
But
47:11
now
47:12
I
47:12
spend
47:13
as
47:13
much
47:14
time,
47:14
if
47:14
not
47:14
more
47:15
time
47:15
on
47:16
the
47:16
marketing
47:17
aspect
47:17
of
47:17
things.
47:17
So
47:18
figuring
47:18
out
47:18
how
47:19
to
47:19
get
47:20
the
47:20
books
47:20
recognized,
47:21
get
47:21
em
47:21
into
47:21
the
47:22
hands
47:22
of
47:22
people
47:22
and
47:23
get
47:23
them
47:23
into
47:23
schools
47:24
and
47:24
libraries
47:24
and
47:25
so
47:25
forth.
47:25
So
47:26
that's
47:26
where
47:27
a
47:27
lot
47:27
of
47:27
my
47:27
focus
47:27
is
47:28
nowadays.
47:29
That's
47:29
important
47:29
for
47:30
people
47:30
to
47:30
know.
47:31
I'm
47:31
glad
47:31
you
47:31
shared
47:32
that
47:32
because
47:32
that's
47:32
such
47:33
a
47:33
important
47:34
part.
47:34
And
47:35
you
47:35
know
47:35
what,
47:35
Darcy?
47:37
Every
47:37
day
47:37
I
47:38
get
47:38
up,
47:38
I'm,
47:38
I'm
47:39
thinking
47:39
the
47:39
same
47:39
thing
47:39
as
47:40
you
47:40
is
47:40
that,
47:41
you
47:41
know,
47:42
I
47:42
recently
47:44
put
47:44
together
47:44
a
47:45
couple
47:45
of
47:46
lists
47:46
of
47:47
what
47:47
I
47:47
think
47:47
would
47:48
be
47:48
potential
47:49
bookstores
47:51
to
47:51
reach
47:51
out
47:51
to
47:52
them.
47:52
So
47:52
you
47:52
know,
47:52
all
47:53
of
47:53
those
47:53
things
47:53
are
47:54
so
47:54
important
47:55
besides
47:55
your
47:56
friends
47:56
and
47:56
family,
47:57
like
47:57
how
47:57
do
47:57
you
47:58
build
47:58
your
47:58
circle
47:58
bigger
47:59
so
47:59
that's
48:00
there's
48:00
more
48:00
people
48:00
that
48:01
know
48:01
about
48:01
your
48:01
book.
48:02
And
48:03
I
48:03
am
48:03
a
48:04
hands
48:04
on
48:05
kind
48:05
of
48:05
person.
48:06
I
48:07
like
48:07
to
48:07
get
48:07
out,
48:08
I
48:08
like
48:08
to
48:08
talk
48:09
to
48:09
people.
48:10
So
48:10
part
48:11
of
48:11
the
48:11
marketing
48:12
focus
48:12
for
48:12
me
48:13
is
48:13
this
48:14
won't
48:14
work
48:14
for
48:14
everybody,
48:15
but
48:15
for
48:15
me
48:15
is
48:15
getting
48:16
out,
48:16
doing
48:16
school
48:16
visits,
48:17
which
48:18
takes
48:18
time
48:18
and
48:18
effort
48:19
to
48:19
go
48:19
and
48:20
do,
48:20
and
48:21
then
48:21
doing
48:21
other
48:22
in
48:22
person,
48:23
you
48:23
know,
48:23
vendor
48:24
Type
48:24
events.
48:25
Talk
48:25
a
48:26
little
48:26
bit
48:26
more
48:26
about
48:27
vendor
48:27
events.
48:28
Like
48:28
how
48:29
far
48:29
would
48:30
would
48:30
you
48:31
go?
48:31
Like
48:31
how
48:32
many
48:32
vendor
48:32
events
48:33
would
48:33
you
48:33
do
48:33
in
48:33
a
48:33
year
48:34
and
48:34
how
48:35
far
48:35
would
48:35
you
48:35
go
48:36
to
48:36
get
48:36
to
48:36
a
48:36
vendor
48:37
event?
48:37
Like
48:38
in,
48:38
in
48:38
terms
48:38
of
48:38
travel,
48:39
I've.
48:39
Traveled
48:40
as,
48:40
as
48:41
far
48:41
as
48:41
two
48:41
and
48:41
a
48:42
half
48:42
hour
48:42
drive
48:43
to
48:43
get
48:43
to
48:43
an
48:43
event.
48:44
But
48:45
when
48:45
I
48:45
go
48:45
to
48:46
that
48:46
location
48:46
I
48:47
try
48:47
to
48:47
do
48:47
multiple
48:48
things.
48:48
I
48:48
try
48:48
to
48:49
do
48:49
like
48:49
a
48:50
vendor
48:50
type
48:50
event
48:51
pop
48:51
up
48:51
market
48:52
or
48:52
a
48:52
book
48:53
signing
48:53
at
48:53
a
48:53
bookstore
48:54
combined
48:55
with
48:55
a
48:55
school
48:56
visit
48:56
to
48:56
kind
48:57
of
48:57
make
48:57
get
48:58
the
48:58
most
48:58
bang
48:58
for
48:59
my
48:59
buck
48:59
as
48:59
far
48:59
as
49:00
traveling
49:00
and
49:01
maybe
49:01
having
49:01
to
49:01
stay
49:02
overnight
49:02
and
49:02
that
49:02
type
49:03
of
49:03
stuff.
49:03
But
49:03
generally
49:04
most
49:04
of
49:04
my
49:04
events
49:05
that
49:05
I
49:05
do
49:05
are
49:05
within
49:06
an
49:06
hour
49:06
drive
49:07
of,
49:08
of
49:08
where
49:08
I
49:08
live.
49:08
I
49:09
live
49:09
near
49:09
Seattle,
49:09
so
49:10
there's,
49:10
there's
49:10
just
49:10
about
49:11
every
49:11
weekend
49:12
there
49:12
is
49:12
something
49:13
somewhere
49:13
if
49:14
I
49:14
wanted
49:14
to
49:14
be
49:14
involved
49:15
in
49:15
it.
49:16
And
49:16
I'm
49:16
kind
49:16
of
49:16
putting
49:17
together
49:17
my
49:17
plan
49:18
for
49:18
the
49:18
next
49:18
six
49:18
months
49:19
and
49:19
scheduling
49:20
things
49:20
and
49:20
getting
49:20
my,
49:21
my
49:22
applications
49:22
in
49:22
for
49:23
different
49:23
events
49:23
coming
49:23
up.
49:24
Do
49:24
you
49:24
find
49:25
people
49:25
are,
49:26
are
49:26
pretty
49:26
warm
49:26
to
49:27
that?
49:27
When
49:27
you
49:27
say
49:28
I'm
49:28
going
49:28
to
49:28
be
49:28
doing
49:29
a
49:30
vendor
49:30
event,
49:30
I'm
49:31
just
49:31
going
49:31
to
49:31
use
49:31
a
49:31
name.
49:32
So
49:32
I'm
49:32
going
49:32
to
49:33
Portland,
49:33
I'm
49:34
going
49:34
to
49:34
be
49:34
doing
49:34
a
49:34
vendor
49:35
event.
49:36
And
49:36
when
49:36
you,
49:37
when
49:37
you
49:37
get
49:37
a
49:37
hold
49:38
of
49:38
a
49:38
school
49:39
or,
49:39
or
49:39
a
49:40
store
49:40
that's
49:41
in
49:41
Portland,
49:41
do
49:42
they
49:42
say
49:42
oh,
49:42
okay,
49:43
well
49:43
that
49:43
sounds
49:43
great.
49:44
You
49:44
generally
49:45
find
49:45
good
49:46
acceptance.
49:47
You
49:47
have
49:47
to
49:48
work
49:48
at
49:48
it.
49:48
Okay,
49:49
so
49:49
I
49:49
like
49:49
if
49:50
I
49:50
know
49:50
in
49:51
Portland
49:51
is
49:51
a
49:51
good
49:51
example.
49:52
I
49:52
am
49:52
actually
49:53
going
49:53
down
49:53
to
49:54
Vancouver,
49:55
Washington,
49:55
which
49:55
is
49:56
right
49:56
across
49:56
the
49:56
river
49:57
from
49:57
Portland
49:57
here
49:57
this
49:58
summer
49:58
and
49:59
I
49:59
will
49:59
be
50:00
talking
50:00
to
50:00
bookstores
50:01
and
50:02
I
50:02
do
50:03
have
50:03
to
50:03
make
50:03
some
50:03
phone
50:04
calls.
50:04
Some
50:04
of
50:04
them
50:04
say
50:05
well
50:05
no,
50:05
we
50:05
don't,
50:06
we
50:06
don't
50:06
do
50:06
that
50:06
or
50:07
your
50:07
genre
50:07
is
50:07
not
50:08
right
50:08
for
50:08
us
50:08
or
50:08
whatever.
50:09
I
50:10
contact
50:10
schools
50:11
and
50:12
tell
50:12
them
50:12
I'm
50:12
in
50:12
the
50:12
area.
50:13
Here's
50:13
an
50:13
opportunity
50:15
and
50:15
some,
50:16
occasionally
50:17
one
50:17
or
50:17
two
50:17
will
50:17
take
50:18
it,
50:18
but
50:18
you
50:19
know,
50:19
it's
50:19
not
50:20
guaranteed
50:20
or
50:20
it's
50:21
not
50:21
everybody
50:21
you
50:22
contact
50:22
so
50:22
you
50:23
have
50:23
to
50:23
do
50:23
some
50:24
shopping
50:24
and
50:25
getting
50:25
the
50:25
word
50:25
out.
50:26
But
50:26
I
50:26
try
50:27
to,
50:27
you
50:27
know,
50:27
combine
50:28
different
50:28
events
50:29
to
50:29
make
50:29
it
50:29
more
50:30
economical,
50:31
cost
50:31
effective.
50:32
The
50:32
reason
50:32
I
50:32
asked
50:33
that
50:33
is
50:33
because
50:33
my
50:34
next
50:34
question
50:34
is
50:35
actually
50:36
leading
50:36
to
50:37
what
50:37
advice?
50:38
And
50:38
I
50:38
know
50:38
and
50:39
you've
50:39
already
50:39
given
50:39
some
50:40
great
50:40
advice
50:40
and
50:40
I've
50:41
tried
50:41
to
50:41
just
50:42
draw
50:42
out
50:42
a
50:42
little
50:43
more
50:43
supplementary
50:44
support
50:45
for
50:46
people
50:47
to
50:47
understand
50:47
this.
50:48
But
50:48
advice
50:49
for
50:49
aspiring
50:50
authors.
50:50
What
50:51
kind
50:51
of
50:51
advice
50:51
would
50:52
you
50:52
give
50:52
someone
50:53
who's
50:53
just
50:54
trying
50:55
to
50:55
get
50:55
their
50:55
first
50:56
book
50:56
to
50:56
market
50:56
or
50:57
just
50:57
published
50:58
their
50:58
first
50:58
book.
50:58
What
50:58
would
50:59
you
50:59
say?
50:59
I
50:59
would
51:00
say
51:00
don't
51:00
get
51:00
discouraged
51:01
because
51:02
I
51:02
knew
51:02
I
51:02
struggled
51:03
with
51:03
that.
51:03
Keep
51:04
your
51:05
writer
51:05
idea,
51:06
edit
51:06
it,
51:07
share
51:07
it
51:07
with
51:08
some
51:08
other
51:08
people,
51:08
get
51:09
some
51:09
feedback
51:10
and
51:10
keep
51:11
working
51:11
at
51:11
it,
51:12
revising
51:12
it,
51:13
and
51:13
then
51:13
send
51:13
it
51:14
to
51:14
a
51:14
professional
51:15
editor
51:15
so
51:16
they
51:16
can
51:16
give
51:16
you
51:17
some
51:17
third
51:18
party
51:19
feedback
51:19
on
51:19
it.
51:20
And
51:20
then
51:20
once
51:20
you've
51:21
done
51:21
that,
51:22
of
51:22
course
51:22
some,
51:22
somewhere
51:23
in
51:23
that
51:23
process
51:23
you
51:23
gotta
51:24
decide
51:25
how
51:25
are
51:25
you
51:25
gonna
51:26
do
51:26
this?
51:26
So
51:26
you
51:26
can
51:26
go
51:27
traditional
51:28
or
51:28
you're
51:28
gonna
51:29
self
51:29
publish,
51:30
but
51:30
then
51:30
do
51:30
the
51:31
research
51:31
and
51:31
keep
51:32
looking
51:32
online.
51:33
There's
51:33
all
51:33
kinds
51:34
of
51:34
information
51:35
and
51:35
resources
51:35
to
51:36
help
51:36
prospective
51:36
author,
51:37
aspiring
51:38
author.
51:39
You
51:39
just
51:39
gotta
51:39
spend
51:39
some
51:40
time
51:40
researching
51:41
it
51:41
and
51:41
reading
51:42
and,
51:42
and
51:43
just
51:43
keep,
51:43
keep
51:44
plugging
51:44
at
51:44
it.
51:44
Don't,
51:45
don't
51:45
get
51:45
discouraged.
51:46
And
51:47
I
51:47
just
51:47
want
51:47
to
51:47
pick
51:47
up
51:47
on
51:48
what
51:48
Darcy
51:48
said
51:48
about
51:49
editing.
51:50
As
51:50
Darcy
51:51
and
51:51
I
51:51
both
51:51
know,
51:52
if
51:52
you
51:52
have
51:52
an
51:52
excellent
51:53
illustrator,
51:53
that's,
51:54
that's
51:54
where
51:54
the
51:55
primary
51:55
cost
51:55
is
51:56
if
51:56
you're
51:56
not
51:56
an
51:57
illustrator,
51:58
to
51:58
get
51:58
your
51:58
book
51:59
edited
52:00
so
52:00
you
52:00
have
52:01
some,
52:02
some
52:02
type
52:02
of
52:03
idea
52:04
of
52:04
how
52:04
people
52:05
are
52:05
going
52:05
to
52:05
be
52:05
able
52:05
to
52:06
read
52:06
it
52:06
and
52:07
get
52:07
a
52:07
sense
52:07
from
52:08
it.
52:08
Editing
52:09
is
52:09
not
52:09
that
52:10
expensive
52:10
because
52:11
most
52:11
of
52:12
the
52:12
time
52:12
they're,
52:12
they're
52:13
setting
52:13
their
52:13
price
52:14
on
52:14
the
52:14
number
52:15
of
52:15
words
52:16
and
52:16
if
52:16
you've
52:16
written
52:17
between
52:17
500
52:18
and
52:18
a
52:18
thousand,
52:19
it's
52:19
not
52:20
a
52:20
lot
52:20
of
52:20
words.
52:20
Don't
52:21
worry
52:21
about
52:21
the
52:22
cost
52:22
of
52:22
editing.
52:22
That
52:23
should
52:23
be
52:23
right.
52:24
But,
52:25
but
52:25
it's
52:25
very
52:25
important.
52:26
I
52:27
just
52:27
want
52:27
to
52:27
emphasize
52:28
that
52:28
because
52:28
Darcy's
52:29
absolutely
52:30
right.
52:30
Yeah.
52:31
And
52:31
if
52:31
you
52:31
have
52:31
a
52:31
lot
52:32
of
52:32
mistakes
52:33
in
52:34
your
52:34
book
52:34
when
52:34
it
52:35
goes
52:35
to
52:35
print,
52:35
you
52:35
know,
52:36
punctuation
52:37
and
52:37
grammar
52:37
and
52:37
all
52:37
that
52:38
kind
52:38
of
52:38
stuff,
52:38
it
52:39
just
52:39
kind
52:39
of
52:39
ruins
52:40
the
52:40
book.
52:40
And
52:41
it's,
52:41
it's
52:41
a
52:41
shame
52:41
that
52:42
with
52:42
just
52:43
a
52:43
little
52:43
bit
52:43
of,
52:43
a
52:44
little
52:44
bit
52:44
more
52:45
investment,
52:45
it
52:46
could
52:46
have
52:46
been
52:46
fixed.
52:47
I,
52:47
I
52:48
agree
52:48
a
52:48
hundred
52:48
percent.
52:49
And
52:49
my
52:49
first
52:50
book
52:50
was
52:50
the,
52:51
was
52:52
the,
52:52
was
52:52
the
52:53
memoir.
52:54
No
52:54
illustrations,
52:55
uh,
52:56
but
52:56
a
52:56
lot
52:56
of
52:57
words.
52:57
And
52:58
the
52:59
biggest
52:59
expense
52:59
for
53:00
my
53:00
memoir
53:00
was
53:01
what
53:01
I
53:01
paid
53:01
by
53:02
the
53:02
editor
53:03
because
53:03
there
53:03
was
53:04
no
53:04
illustration.
53:05
So
53:05
that
53:05
was
53:05
an
53:06
investment
53:06
well
53:07
worth
53:07
it
53:07
because
53:07
it
53:07
was
53:07
a
53:08
lot
53:08
of
53:08
words
53:08
and
53:08
it
53:08
took
53:09
a
53:09
lot
53:09
of
53:09
time.
53:09
But
53:09
children's
53:10
books,
53:10
that's
53:11
kind
53:11
of
53:11
a
53:11
minor
53:11
expense
53:12
but
53:12
very
53:13
critical.
53:13
I
53:14
want
53:14
to
53:14
talk
53:14
about
53:15
the
53:15
encouragement
53:15
for
53:16
readers
53:16
and
53:16
with
53:16
you
53:17
doing
53:17
school
53:17
visits,
53:18
I'd
53:18
like
53:18
to
53:19
you
53:19
to
53:19
answer
53:19
two
53:20
questions
53:20
is
53:21
the
53:21
first
53:21
one
53:22
is
53:23
why
53:23
should
53:24
children's
53:25
book
53:25
readers
53:25
purchase
53:26
your
53:26
book?
53:27
This
53:27
again,
53:28
it's
53:28
written
53:28
for
53:29
kids.
53:29
They're
53:30
going
53:30
to
53:30
want
53:30
to
53:31
hold
53:31
it
53:32
and
53:32
read
53:33
it
53:33
again.
53:34
Like
53:34
my
53:34
Granddaughter.
53:35
Read
53:35
it
53:35
again,
53:36
read
53:36
it
53:36
again,
53:36
read
53:37
it
53:37
again.
53:37
If
53:38
it's
53:38
a
53:38
good
53:38
book
53:39
with
53:39
good
53:39
illustrations,
53:40
they
53:41
will
53:41
want
53:41
to
53:41
read
53:42
it
53:42
again.
53:42
And
53:42
that
53:43
just
53:43
helps
53:43
them
53:43
in
53:44
developing.
53:45
Well,
53:45
they
53:45
start
53:46
to
53:46
recognize
53:46
words
53:47
and
53:47
they
53:48
recognize
53:48
the
53:49
flow
53:49
of
53:49
a
53:49
story.
53:50
And
53:50
it's
53:51
just
53:51
a
53:51
process
53:51
in
53:52
helping
53:52
them
53:52
to
53:53
learn
53:53
to
53:54
read
53:54
and
53:55
eventually
53:55
learn
53:55
to
53:56
write
53:56
and
53:57
appreciate
53:57
literature
53:58
and
53:59
to
53:59
have.
53:59
There's
53:59
nothing
54:00
more
54:00
better
54:01
than
54:01
having
54:02
a
54:02
physical
54:02
copy
54:03
in
54:03
your
54:03
hand.
54:04
I
54:04
do
54:05
have
54:05
my
54:05
books
54:06
on
54:06
electronically.
54:07
People
54:07
can
54:08
buy
54:08
them
54:08
through
54:08
Kindle,
54:09
but
54:10
I
54:10
don't
54:11
know
54:11
that
54:11
I've
54:12
even
54:12
sold
54:13
five
54:13
Kindle
54:13
copies
54:14
of
54:14
my
54:14
children's
54:15
books
54:15
because
54:16
kids
54:16
want
54:16
to
54:17
see
54:17
paper,
54:18
paper,
54:19
you
54:19
know,
54:19
and
54:19
hold
54:19
the
54:20
book.
54:20
So
54:20
that's
54:21
what
54:21
I
54:21
encourage.
54:21
I
54:22
couldn't
54:22
agree
54:22
to
54:22
more.
54:23
I
54:23
know
54:24
when
54:24
people
54:25
visit
54:25
your
54:25
website
54:26
and
54:26
by
54:26
the
54:26
way,
54:27
everyone,
54:27
what
54:27
we're
54:28
going
54:28
to
54:28
do
54:28
is
54:28
we'll
54:29
put
54:29
all,
54:29
all
54:30
the
54:30
links
54:30
to
54:31
all
54:31
of
54:31
Darcy's
54:32
his
54:33
website
54:33
and
54:33
all
54:34
the
54:34
social
54:34
media
54:35
and,
54:36
and
54:36
any,
54:36
any
54:37
other
54:37
links
54:37
to
54:37
other
54:38
things
54:38
that
54:38
we've
54:38
talked
54:39
about
54:39
that'll
54:39
be
54:40
in
54:40
the
54:40
show
54:40
notes.
54:40
So
54:41
I
54:41
just
54:41
want
54:41
everybody
54:41
to
54:42
know
54:42
that
54:42
I
54:43
know
54:43
your
54:43
books
54:43
are
54:44
on
54:44
your
54:44
website
54:45
in
54:46
terms
54:46
of
54:46
where
54:47
they're
54:47
available
54:47
for
54:48
purchase.
54:48
Can
54:48
you
54:48
just
54:49
quickly
54:49
tell
54:49
us
54:50
where
54:50
they're
54:51
available
54:51
for
54:51
purchase?
54:52
Amazon,
54:53
of
54:53
course,
54:54
is
54:54
the
54:54
big
54:54
one,
54:54
but
54:55
anywhere
54:55
online,
54:56
that
54:56
book
54:57
you
54:57
can
54:57
buy
54:58
online
54:58
books,
54:59
Barnes
54:59
and
54:59
Noble
55:00
and
55:00
Target
55:01
and
55:02
all
55:02
these
55:02
different
55:02
places
55:03
that
55:03
you
55:03
can
55:03
buy
55:03
books
55:04
online,
55:05
they're
55:05
available
55:06
because
55:06
I've
55:06
marketed
55:07
it
55:07
not
55:07
only
55:08
through
55:08
Amazon
55:08
but
55:09
also
55:10
through
55:10
IngramSpark,
55:11
which
55:12
allows
55:12
those
55:12
books
55:12
to
55:12
be
55:13
uploaded
55:13
to
55:13
all
55:14
these
55:14
other
55:14
online
55:15
book
55:16
sellers
55:16
or
55:17
bookstores.
55:18
So
55:18
those
55:18
are
55:18
the
55:19
two
55:19
biggest.
55:20
And
55:20
just
55:20
so
55:20
everybody
55:21
knows,
55:21
that's
55:22
exactly
55:22
the
55:22
same
55:23
model
55:24
we've
55:24
used
55:24
Darcy's
55:25
model.
55:25
So
55:25
we
55:26
use
55:26
Amazon
55:27
and
55:27
we
55:27
use
55:28
ingramsparks
55:29
for
55:29
every
55:30
other
55:30
online
55:31
book
55:31
retailer.
55:32
And
55:33
I
55:33
also
55:33
publish
55:34
my
55:34
books
55:35
in
55:35
hardcover,
55:36
Paperback
55:37
and
55:37
hardcover.
55:38
And
55:38
the
55:39
hardcover,
55:39
I
55:40
have
55:40
published
55:40
them
55:41
through
55:41
IngramSpark
55:42
because
55:42
Amazon
55:42
doesn't
55:43
do
55:43
children's
55:44
books
55:44
and
55:44
hardcover.
55:45
So
55:46
IngramSpark
55:47
actually
55:48
has
55:48
a
55:49
website
55:49
that
55:50
buyers
55:50
can
55:51
go
55:51
to
55:51
and
55:52
purchase
55:52
the
55:52
book
55:52
directly
55:53
from
55:54
IngramSpark.
55:54
Instead
55:55
of
55:55
going
55:55
through
55:55
Amazon,
55:56
you
55:56
can
55:56
buy
55:56
it
55:56
directly
55:56
from
55:57
ingramspark.
55:58
There's
55:58
a
55:58
little
55:59
bit
55:59
of
55:59
a
55:59
cost
56:00
savings
56:00
there
56:00
and
56:01
it's
56:01
quicker,
56:02
quicker
56:02
to
56:02
buy
56:02
it
56:03
through
56:03
IngramSpark's
56:04
website
56:05
if
56:05
you
56:05
want
56:05
hardcover.
56:06
Can
56:06
you
56:06
share
56:07
some
56:07
final
56:07
thoughts?
56:08
The
56:09
experience
56:09
for
56:09
me,
56:10
I'd
56:10
never
56:11
anticipated
56:11
going
56:12
down
56:12
this
56:12
road,
56:12
but
56:12
now
56:13
that
56:13
I
56:13
have,
56:14
it
56:15
has
56:15
been
56:16
such
56:16
a
56:17
wonderful
56:17
experience
56:18
that
56:18
I
56:18
can't
56:18
imagine
56:19
not
56:20
doing
56:20
it
56:20
or
56:20
not
56:21
having
56:21
done
56:21
it
56:22
and
56:22
not
56:23
stopping.
56:23
I
56:23
think
56:24
I'm
56:24
going
56:24
to
56:24
continue
56:24
to
56:25
do
56:25
it.
56:25
Eventually
56:26
I
56:26
may
56:26
start
56:27
lacking
56:27
off
56:28
on
56:28
the
56:28
number
56:28
of
56:28
books
56:28
that
56:29
I
56:29
write
56:29
and
56:30
just
56:30
focus
56:30
more
56:30
on
56:31
getting
56:32
out
56:32
there
56:32
and
56:32
talking
56:32
to
56:33
people
56:33
and
56:33
sharing
56:33
the
56:34
books.
56:34
But
56:34
it's,
56:35
it's
56:35
just
56:35
a
56:35
lot
56:36
of
56:36
fun
56:36
and
56:36
it's
56:37
a
56:37
way
56:37
to
56:37
kind
56:37
of,
56:38
for
56:38
some
56:38
people,
56:38
even
56:39
if
56:39
you're
56:39
just
56:39
going
56:39
to
56:39
do
56:40
a
56:40
one
56:40
and
56:40
done,
56:41
it's
56:41
so
56:41
fulfilling
56:42
to
56:42
do
56:43
one
56:43
book
56:43
and
56:44
have
56:44
it
56:44
out
56:45
there
56:45
in
56:45
the
56:45
world
56:45
with
56:46
your
56:46
name
56:46
on
56:46
it
56:47
and
56:47
then
56:47
go
56:47
to
56:47
the
56:47
library
56:48
and
56:48
you
56:48
see
56:48
it
56:49
on
56:49
the
56:49
shelf.
56:49
It's
56:50
just,
56:50
wow.
56:50
Nothing
56:51
feels
56:51
better
56:52
than
56:52
to
56:53
see
56:53
your
56:53
book
56:53
with
56:54
your
56:54
name
56:54
on
56:54
the
56:54
COVID
56:55
you
56:55
know,
56:55
So
56:55
I
56:55
would
56:55
encourage
56:56
just
56:56
go
56:57
for
56:57
it,
56:57
do
56:57
it.
56:58
And
56:58
it's
56:58
so
56:58
easy,
56:59
it's
56:59
so
56:59
easy
57:00
to
57:00
do.
57:00
Nowadays
57:01
through
57:02
self
57:02
publishing,
57:03
there's
57:03
some
57:04
expense,
57:04
but
57:05
there's
57:05
ways
57:06
to
57:06
mitigate
57:06
that
57:06
too.
57:07
Some
57:07
of
57:07
the
57:07
expenses.
57:08
To
57:09
your
57:09
point,
57:09
go
57:09
have
57:09
some
57:10
fun
57:10
with
57:10
it.
57:10
Like
57:10
it
57:11
doesn't
57:11
have
57:11
to
57:11
be
57:11
all
57:12
work.
57:12
If
57:13
you
57:13
tie
57:13
in
57:13
some
57:13
play,
57:14
it
57:14
definitely
57:15
can
57:15
be
57:15
some
57:16
fun.
57:16
Especially
57:17
I
57:17
love
57:17
what
57:17
you're
57:18
doing
57:18
with
57:18
your
57:18
grandkids
57:19
and
57:19
getting
57:19
them
57:19
involved.
57:20
And
57:20
it's
57:20
like,
57:21
wow,
57:21
what
57:21
a
57:21
great
57:22
idea.
57:23
And
57:23
look,
57:23
now
57:24
you
57:24
have
57:24
planted
57:24
the
57:24
idea
57:25
in
57:25
my
57:25
head
57:25
of
57:26
when
57:26
my
57:26
grandkids
57:27
get
57:28
a
57:28
little
57:28
older,
57:29
we're
57:29
going
57:29
to
57:29
go
57:29
out
57:29
and
57:29
do
57:29
some
57:30
of.
57:30
Our
57:30
own
57:30
adventures
57:31
as
57:31
a
57:31
self
57:32
published
57:32
book
57:33
author.
57:34
We
57:34
both
57:35
know
57:35
that,
57:35
you
57:36
know,
57:37
it
57:37
takes
57:38
some
57:38
financial
57:38
resources
57:39
to
57:39
do
57:40
all
57:40
this.
57:41
And
57:41
so
57:41
what
57:42
we
57:42
did
57:42
is
57:43
with
57:43
my
57:43
grandchildren,
57:44
we've
57:44
written
57:45
38
57:45
stories.
57:46
Now,
57:46
of
57:47
course
57:47
they're
57:47
not
57:47
children's
57:48
books
57:48
yet,
57:49
but
57:49
what
57:49
we've
57:50
done,
57:50
and
57:51
we've
57:51
actually
57:51
added
57:52
them
57:52
to
57:52
our
57:52
website
57:53
is
57:53
we
57:54
actually
57:54
turned
57:55
at
57:55
least
57:56
half
57:56
of
57:56
them
57:57
into
57:57
audiobooks.
57:58
And
57:58
four
57:59
out
57:59
of
57:59
my
57:59
five
58:00
grandchildren
58:01
are
58:01
the
58:01
narrator
58:02
capturing
58:03
their
58:03
young
58:04
voices.
58:04
Now
58:04
before
58:05
they
58:05
get.
58:06
Because
58:06
I
58:06
got
58:06
a
58:06
couple
58:06
of
58:07
grandsons,
58:08
I
58:08
got
58:09
three
58:09
granddaughters
58:09
and
58:10
two
58:10
grandsons.
58:10
At
58:11
some
58:11
point
58:12
their,
58:12
their
58:13
voices
58:13
are
58:13
going
58:13
to
58:13
get
58:13
huskier.
58:15
Right,
58:15
Right.
58:15
Yeah.
58:16
I,
58:16
I
58:17
listened
58:17
to
58:17
the
58:17
podcast
58:18
where
58:18
you
58:19
interviewed
58:19
your,
58:20
your
58:20
granddaughter,
58:20
Kira.
58:21
Yes.
58:22
And
58:22
she,
58:22
she
58:23
sounds
58:23
grown
58:24
up
58:24
now.
58:24
Is
58:24
she?
58:25
She
58:25
is.
58:26
We
58:27
did
58:27
capture
58:28
her
58:28
younger
58:28
voice.
58:29
It's
58:30
in
58:31
one
58:31
of
58:31
the
58:31
episodes
58:32
where
58:32
I,
58:33
I,
58:33
I
58:34
interviewed
58:34
her
58:34
when
58:34
she
58:35
was
58:35
five
58:36
or
58:36
six.
58:37
So.
58:37
Okay.
58:38
Yeah,
58:38
so.
58:39
And
58:39
you
58:39
know,
58:39
it's
58:40
just
58:40
the
58:40
way
58:40
it,
58:41
it,
58:41
it
58:41
turned
58:41
out.
58:42
But
58:42
you
58:42
know,
58:42
they
58:42
grow
58:43
so
58:43
quickly.
58:44
That's
58:44
what's
58:44
happened.
58:45
And
58:45
that's
58:45
why
58:45
I'm
58:46
trying
58:46
to
58:46
capture
58:46
all
58:46
these
58:47
moments
58:47
as
58:47
quickly
58:48
as
58:48
I
58:48
can.
58:49
Because
58:49
every
58:49
day
58:50
they
58:50
just
58:50
get
58:50
it.
58:50
They
58:51
get.
58:51
I
58:51
get
58:51
younger.
58:52
They
58:52
get
58:52
older.
58:53
Yep.
58:53
That's
58:54
right.
58:54
I
58:54
understand.
58:54
I
58:55
understand.
58:55
My.
58:55
My
58:56
granddaughter's
58:56
now
58:57
5,
58:57
and
58:58
I
58:58
have
58:58
a
58:58
second
58:59
granddaughter
59:00
that
59:00
will
59:00
be
59:01
entering
59:01
the
59:01
world
59:02
in
59:02
the
59:02
middle
59:02
of
59:03
May.
59:03
So
59:04
she's
59:04
not
59:04
born
59:04
yet,
59:04
but
59:05
then
59:05
I'll
59:05
have
59:05
two
59:06
grandkids
59:06
to
59:06
go
59:06
out
59:07
and
59:07
do
59:07
some
59:07
adventures
59:08
with.
59:08
One
59:08
of
59:08
the
59:09
things
59:09
that
59:09
we
59:09
did,
59:09
Darcy,
59:11
created
59:11
a
59:12
bookmark,
59:13
and
59:14
it
59:14
has
59:14
a
59:15
QR
59:15
code,
59:16
and
59:16
so
59:17
when
59:17
someone
59:17
purchases
59:18
our
59:18
book,
59:19
we
59:19
give
59:19
them
59:20
a
59:20
free
59:20
bookmark
59:21
and
59:21
they
59:22
get
59:22
the
59:22
audio.
59:23
A
59:23
free
59:23
audio
59:23
book
59:24
with
59:24
it.
59:25
It's
59:25
actually
59:25
my
59:25
middle
59:26
granddaughter.
59:27
She's
59:27
the
59:28
narrator
59:29
of
59:29
our
59:29
first
59:29
story.
59:30
Oh,
59:31
wow.
59:31
Good.
59:31
Definitely
59:32
a
59:32
lot
59:32
of
59:32
fun.
59:33
Well,
59:33
you
59:33
know
59:33
what?
59:33
I
59:33
want
59:33
to
59:34
thank
59:34
you
59:34
so
59:34
much
59:35
for
59:35
being
59:35
a
59:35
guest
59:36
on
59:36
the
59:36
Adventures
59:37
in
59:37
the
59:37
Heart
59:37
of
59:37
Children's
59:38
Book
59:38
Authors.
59:39
Your
59:39
generosity
59:40
of
59:40
time,
59:40
your
59:41
insights
59:42
and
59:43
are
59:43
definitely
59:43
going
59:44
to
59:44
significantly
59:45
benefit
59:46
aspiring
59:47
authors,
59:48
which
59:48
I
59:48
love,
59:49
and
59:49
I.
59:50
I
59:51
know
59:51
that
59:51
readers
59:52
will
59:52
enjoy
59:52
your
59:53
books.
59:53
I
59:53
really
59:54
enjoyed
59:54
your
59:54
book.
59:55
I
59:55
can't
59:55
wait
59:55
to
59:55
share
59:56
it
59:56
with
59:56
my
59:56
grandchildren.
59:58
I
59:58
promise
59:58
everyone
59:59
we'll
59:59
get
59:59
links
59:59
to
1:00:00
everything
1:00:00
to
1:00:01
help
1:00:01
you
1:00:01
reach
1:00:02
out
1:00:02
to
1:00:02
Darcy
1:00:03
and
1:00:03
enjoy
1:00:04
his.
1:00:04
His
1:00:05
four
1:00:06
what.
1:00:06
What
1:00:06
soon
1:00:07
will
1:00:07
be
1:00:07
four.
1:00:07
Four
1:00:07
books.
1:00:08
I
1:00:09
really,
1:00:09
really
1:00:09
appreciate
1:00:10
that.
1:00:10
If
1:00:10
you've
1:00:10
enjoyed
1:00:11
this
1:00:11
episode,
1:00:12
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1:00:13
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subscribe
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to
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1:00:16
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1:00:17
our
1:00:17
future
1:00:17
episodes
1:00:18
would
1:00:18
really
1:00:19
be
1:00:19
appreciated.
1:00:20
And
1:00:20
feel
1:00:21
free
1:00:21
to
1:00:22
share
1:00:22
this
1:00:22
episode
1:00:23
with
1:00:23
anyone
1:00:23
who's
1:00:24
inspired
1:00:25
or
1:00:25
enjoys
1:00:26
hearing
1:00:26
about
1:00:27
Darcy,
1:00:27
Dolph,
1:00:28
and
1:00:29
Gwen's
1:00:29
Coast
1:00:29
Guard
1:00:30
adventures.