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RHOA Premiere Recap with the Real Housewives Whisperers · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: The glory days of the Atlanta Housewives is gone.
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  Speaker 2: It's over. It will never be what it was. Never.
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  Speaker 1: Season nine is the last season where Atlanta Housewives was
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  Speaker 1: in its glory days. Stay tuned, we'll get into my
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a love connection, because I'm not Chuck Woolery,
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  Speaker 1: living legend Dave Quinn.
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  Speaker 3: honored to be here right now, really honored.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave.
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  Speaker 1: No, listen, I'm honored to be here with you. You are
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  Speaker 1: one of my dearest friends. I love you so much
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  Speaker 1: and I could not think of a better person to
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  Speaker 1: kick off the season premiere of Atlanta Housewives than you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, And what a season this is already setting
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  Speaker 3: up to be with some of the backstage drama, the
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  Speaker 3: women doing their own photo shoots and their own promos.
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  Speaker 3: What about that I'm living for it all.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, that's a gag based on everything that's
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  Speaker 1: been happening in social media with people saying tons of things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yep.
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  Speaker 1: So to know that these Atlanta cast members spent their
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  Speaker 1: own money to do their own photoshoot was very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: But from what I was.
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  Speaker 1: Told they did this without Bravo knowing about it, only
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  Speaker 1: because they did not like the promo photo that Bravo
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  Speaker 1: did pay for.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you heard too.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I heard too. And honestly, the photo that
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  Speaker 3: they came out with its gorgeous. I mean, they look
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  Speaker 3: beautiful and there's an energy about it that the other
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  Speaker 3: one doesn't really have, and I think it's because of
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  Speaker 3: the fact that they all came together in that way.
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  Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I would love for this. I
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  Speaker 3: think this is a make or break Atlanta season.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think that they are all showing up
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  Speaker 3: and doing their jobs and I'd love to see it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think you saw that in the premiere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's get right into it.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the premiere and drum brall, please, I liked it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's big.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed the premiere episode. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: solid effort. I give it a B plus good. I
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. And let me hear from you, Dave.
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  Speaker 1: Did you enjoy the season premiere of the Atlanta Housewives?
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  Speaker 3: I did, and for me, it's all that first scene
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  Speaker 3: in the episode where you have Kenya and Candy and
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  Speaker 3: Marlowe and Charat all together, all key King, all catching
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  Speaker 3: up in I think it was Kenya's dance studio right,
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  Speaker 3: and it just felt organic and real, these real friends
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  Speaker 3: having a great time. The energy was outstanding. I loved
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  Speaker 3: seeing them all back together, and I kind of miss
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  Speaker 3: Cynthia because I love Cynthia Bailey, but it still felt
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  Speaker 3: I just love the energy of it all, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that that is going to be the thing that
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  Speaker 3: carries them through this year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the first scene was great. Listen, Kenya is
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  Speaker 1: our favorite. We love Kenya. She's one of our favorites,
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  Speaker 1: because we love all the cast members. Because gop forbid
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  Speaker 1: I say someone is my favorite, it would break the
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  Speaker 1: Handswernet again. So Kenya Moore is one of our favorites
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  Speaker 1: because she's a fantastic reality star. So to see her
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  Speaker 1: open up the premiere Dancing with the Stars with her
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  Speaker 1: guy Brandon, and to see Marlowe come in giving you
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  Speaker 1: good old Dorothy Dandridge look sort of mocking. Kenya's costume
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  Speaker 1: appearance on Dance with the Stars, I thought was.
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  Speaker 3: Genius, genius, so fun, and then you know the Charat
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  Speaker 3: of it all is incredible, and I have a little
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  Speaker 3: Tita spill about this. I'm sure you know this, but
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  Speaker 3: your audience may not know that. I heard through some
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  Speaker 3: well placed sources that Charay literally signed her contract minutes
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  Speaker 3: before filming that scene. That she got a phone call
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  Speaker 3: while she was at the gym that said, your contract
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  Speaker 3: went through. Come on by, we're filming. And she picked
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  Speaker 3: her ass up from the treadmill and ran on over,
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  Speaker 3: drove on over to that scene, got miked up, and
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  Speaker 3: came in. That's why you see her. She's got no
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  Speaker 3: makeup on her hair and a messy ponytail and the
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  Speaker 3: girls are freaking out about her appearance because they didn't
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  Speaker 3: know she was coming. And that is why I think
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  Speaker 3: it's so good, because she Charay. You know, we're big
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  Speaker 3: Charat fans, comes and delivers like dominoes, and she is
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  Speaker 3: just in it right away. I loved every second of it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, listen, Charay needs to be on the show
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of the history of Atlanta Housewives. Charay
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  Speaker 1: was on my podcast, and she is super underrated. I've
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  Speaker 1: said it before, I say it again. She's super underrated.
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  Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, you just draw some exclusive tea.
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  Speaker 1: I did not note that Dave Quinn that Charay was
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  Speaker 1: called and told your contract is good, go to work.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why when she showed up, because I was like,
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  Speaker 1: for this to be Charae's like entrance back into the show,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, my girl couldn't put on some heels, couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Wear a nice little cocktail dress. But now it all
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  Speaker 2: makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: And I have to say, one of my favorite conversations
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  Speaker 3: that I had for the book was with you, and
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  Speaker 3: you talked to me about when you came back to
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  Speaker 3: the show. I believe it was season eight, correct, and
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  Speaker 3: you brought Chara with you, and that was a big
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  Speaker 3: thing for you that the second Charat entered into that party,
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  Speaker 3: none of the women knew she was coming. And Kenya
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  Speaker 3: saw her and immediately picked up the ball and started
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  Speaker 3: running with it and started throwing those jabs. And that's
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  Speaker 3: where we got the baseboards and you know, and all
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  Speaker 3: of that house fighting. That is exactly what I saw
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  Speaker 3: in this moment she walked in and you saw Kenya's
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  Speaker 3: eye and then Kenya, you know, immediately the questions start coming,
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  Speaker 3: what's going on with the guy you're dating? Is he
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  Speaker 3: still in prison? And it's like she knew what to do.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I love about the Atlanta women because
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  Speaker 3: and especially Kenya, they work, they know the job, and
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  Speaker 3: they do their job.
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  Speaker 1: No, Kenya is the uncredited executive producer of The Atlanta Housewives.
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  Speaker 2: I will go on record saying it.
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  Speaker 1: Kenya and Charae are the best producers on Atlanta Housewives
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  Speaker 1: because when they are in a scene, they know what
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  Speaker 1: to do in order to put that scene to be
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  Speaker 1: entertaining and interesting. The rest of those women, no shade
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  Speaker 1: to them. They need producing. They need someone to tell
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  Speaker 1: them or should I say, remind them that you're on
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  Speaker 1: a reality show.
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  Speaker 3: Be real.
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  Speaker 1: So Kenya and Charae are always frustrated because they feel like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you bitches here not doing anything?
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  Speaker 2: Like we all have to show up and show out.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's why when Marlow walked into that scene,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on record and say this rename the
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  Speaker 1: show the Real Marlowe of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Because baby, this season, I.
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  Speaker 1: Can tell you already from the first episode, this is
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  Speaker 1: Marlow Hampton's season.
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  Speaker 2: She is the.
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  Speaker 1: Fourth multiplier that our mutual friend Dave Ebony K Williams coin.
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  Speaker 1: This is Marlow's season period.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and going to work as an important part of
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  Speaker 3: this job that I think fans as viewers get really
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  Speaker 3: clouded by because they often hate and complain about the
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  Speaker 3: people who are actually doing the job. They're doing the work,
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  Speaker 3: They're making things happen. Which is why, going back to Ebony,
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  Speaker 3: I was so frustrated as a viewer of New York
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  Speaker 3: seeing the discourse against her when I was like, why
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  Speaker 3: do we have people like Luanne and Ramona, who are
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  Speaker 3: legends in the housewives industry walking out of scenes and
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  Speaker 3: not saying anything like these are people who need to
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  Speaker 3: do their job and their jobs is you don't like
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  Speaker 3: what we're talking about. Give me something else to talk about, period,
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  Speaker 3: Come on, give me reality. So I appreciate that this
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  Speaker 3: is going to be you know, Marlow Hampton's Atlanta, and
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  Speaker 3: we are all just living in it because she's doing
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  Speaker 3: her job. She's been doing her job every time she's
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  Speaker 3: been on the show in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Now, listen, Marlow has been on the show for ten
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  Speaker 1: years and she finally has a peach is well deserved,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to remind the Atlanta Housewife fans of
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  Speaker 1: this the glory days of the Atlanta Housewives is gone.
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  Speaker 2: It's over. It will never be what it was never.
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  Speaker 1: Season nine is the last season where Atlanta Housewives was
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  Speaker 1: in its glory days, and the season ten reunion is
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  Speaker 1: the last reunion where the Atlanta Housewives were in their
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  Speaker 1: glory days of a reunion. Now, when I say that,
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  Speaker 1: that's not shade. What I'm saying to y'all is this,
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  Speaker 1: we have to accept the fact that Atlanta house Wise
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  Speaker 1: will never be what it once was. The heyday of
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  Speaker 1: Nini Leaks. Like you said, even Cynthia Bailly, phasr Parks Porscha,
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  Speaker 1: those days are gone. And what I remember, talk about
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  Speaker 1: some exclusive t for you day because you pour one
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  Speaker 1: of my cup let me.
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  Speaker 2: Prot one on yours, honey.
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  Speaker 1: So look, I told the producers season eleven because I
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  Speaker 1: was asked to come back to produce Atlanta Housewives and
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't make it work for business reasons. And what
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  Speaker 1: I said to the producer of that show, I said,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, make the show great,
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  Speaker 1: stop complaining about what it used to be and start
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  Speaker 1: accepting what it can be. And I said, once you
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  Speaker 1: start doing that, you will have a good season. And
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  Speaker 1: I think season fourteen premier showed me that if you
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  Speaker 1: focus on what the show can be, you'll have a
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  Speaker 1: great show. So that wasn't me throwing shade about the
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  Speaker 1: Glory days not being what it is today. What I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is I watched season fourteen, and for the first
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  Speaker 1: time since I left the show season nine, I said,
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  Speaker 1: this is a brand new Atlanta and I'm very interested
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  Speaker 1: in where this is going to go.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I feel the exact same way.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I had a conversation with some producers towards the end
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  Speaker 3: of last season and they were candidly just asking me
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  Speaker 3: what my thoughts were about, you know, if the show
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  Speaker 3: came back next year, what I would like to see,
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  Speaker 3: And I said, the first thing that I want is
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  Speaker 3: just they got to get rid of all these friends
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  Speaker 3: because there were so many friend voices. I think last
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  Speaker 3: season there was just as many friends as there were
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  Speaker 3: full time housewives. So it was like that, you need
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  Speaker 3: to clear out the noise. And I think that's exactly
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  Speaker 3: You're such a good point. This is turning the corner.
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  Speaker 3: Now the noise is gone, we're really focusing on our
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  Speaker 3: core cast. And I think the results show in this.
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  Speaker 1: Premiere absolutely and what the results also showed is Marlowe,
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  Speaker 1: I love you, but you are no Taler Perry.
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  Speaker 2: Because that invitation.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with Kenya, it was botched like Terry Debro TV
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  Speaker 1: show on E Honey. It was very Perry Mason, not
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  Speaker 1: Taler Perry. Like I could not get past this ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: invitation when a beautiful model who's a size two walks
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  Speaker 1: up with a laptop that was used from Apple Genius
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  Speaker 1: Store and you want to miss thing to flip and open,
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  Speaker 1: press the space bar button to hit play, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: supposed to watch it when I've seen Tyler Perry give
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  Speaker 1: a whole box to these celebrities.
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  Speaker 2: Marlow I love you. That wasn't epic fail sis.
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  Speaker 3: It was very Karen Huger. You know she's pulled those
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  Speaker 3: stunts before, with those invites to things. But you're right,
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  Speaker 3: it did not succeed. Now, I'm curious, without being shady,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be shady here, but what are
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts about Porsia not being part of the show
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  Speaker 3: right now? Do you feel her absence?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's not a it's but when I say yes,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I desire for her to be back.
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  Speaker 1: I've spoken to a lot of people, and they all
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  Speaker 1: said something was missing when they watched the premiere. And
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  Speaker 1: what I challenged them on was what I said earlier
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  Speaker 1: was stop wishing what it used to be. So do
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  Speaker 1: I miss Porsche, Yeah, but I also miss Nini, I missed,
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  Speaker 1: I missed, I miss everybody. But I do believe based
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  Speaker 1: on this new cast, the new era of the Real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta is going to be Marlowe, Drew and
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  Speaker 1: Sanya Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And when I say that, this is what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to show a new Atlanta and those three
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  Speaker 1: women are going to be the future of the franchise.
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  Speaker 1: And it's nothing against Kenya, Charae and Candy, who's great,
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  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with them. What I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: is when you look at for example, New Jersey, Teresa
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  Speaker 1: was always the mainstay, but when they brought in Margaret
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  Speaker 1: and Jackie and Jennifer Aden, Teresa Wilissa were always the
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  Speaker 1: main girls, but it was a different energy brought into
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  Speaker 1: that show. And now Jersey is having the best season
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  Speaker 1: has had in years. So what I'm saying is Marlowe, Drew,
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  Speaker 1: and Sonya are the future of the franchise. And although
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  Speaker 1: it's still up in the air if their impact is
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  Speaker 1: going to be felt this season. What I will guarantee
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  Speaker 1: you is this, those three will be on the show
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  Speaker 1: for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I can see that for sure, and especially with Drew.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she certainly seems to be delivering story, story, story.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that was what we got, if not maybe
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  Speaker 3: too much story from her her first season. I struggle
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  Speaker 3: sometimes when housewives come on the show and their first season,
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  Speaker 3: their first introduction to them is I'm in a bad
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  Speaker 3: marriage because I don't really root for you, because I
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  Speaker 3: don't really know you, and I don't really know your
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  Speaker 3: relationship to be anything but bad. So I'm just kind
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  Speaker 3: of like, why are you in here? And turn again.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's still in a bad place. It's not
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  Speaker 3: like it's in a better place. So I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: if I'm rooting for Drew right now, though I am
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  Speaker 3: a Step Up fan forever, so I will always love
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  Speaker 3: her from Step Up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm a TLC biopic fan. And she killed the
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  Speaker 1: Rolla's Tea bos Hoodey.
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  Speaker 3: She killed it. She killed it, and I think she's
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  Speaker 3: super talented. She is, but I worry that there's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a performance there, and you know that
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  Speaker 3: when you're an actor and you come onto the show
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  Speaker 3: and you have that. I think sometimes it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: reveal your reality. And I wonder how much this stuff
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  Speaker 3: between her and her husband is is performative.
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  Speaker 2: I could not agree more.
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  Speaker 1: I met Drew so Dora as Chara's fashion show.
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  Speaker 2: Yes I attend it because I was invited.
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  Speaker 3: The fashion show with fashions.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm not allowed to say what happened, but
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  Speaker 1: all I'll say is I was there and ju so
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  Speaker 1: Dour was there and I guess her leg was broken chalkcase,
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  Speaker 1: she having a cast, and I was like, how dreadful?
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, I walked up to Drew and I spoke
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  Speaker 1: to her, and Drew asked me, She said, do you
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  Speaker 1: like me? And I said, yeah, why wouldn't I? She said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you like me? And I said why
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  Speaker 1: why wouldn't I like you? She said, because when someone
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  Speaker 1: posted a picture of the housewives and I was in it,
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  Speaker 1: you gave everyone else a compliment but me, And I said,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, Drew, I'm so sorry. I said, listen,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: ask anybody who knows me. I'm not a mean person.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Like I don't I'm not mean I'm shady, but I'm
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: not mean, and I said, I know those girls, so
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I was giving my girls compliments. But I didn't mean
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to offend you because I didn't say anything about you,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and we started to follow each other. But with that
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: being said, I also struggled with whether or not her
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and Wrap are giving us great content. That's real because
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. But to your point, when you are an actress,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: are you able to turn off that acting hat the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: way Garcelle does this so beautifully on Beverly Hills Lisa Renna,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I don't mind her being performative because I need it
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: on that show.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, But to your point with Drew, the jury is
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: still out.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I like her so much, and it's the thing is,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I struggled with her last season because the lobbyed criticism
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: she had towards Kenya seemed unwarranted based on what I saw.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: It seemed like it was coming from her as a
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: fan of the show, as a viewer, and her experience
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: of watching Kenya in the past. And listen, I mean,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: ken you made a comment about her wigs. Did you
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: have you watched? I mean, the wigs improved after Keny
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: made that comment, So it's like, I hate to say it,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: but she took the note like she took a bottle.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Of shampoo from Kenya. More haircare, hoodey and massage that scalp.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: She's looking great except for the crescent. Everything is looking real.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: That split screen was hilarious. That split screen with with
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: that and the strawberry candy. Oh my god, the O
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: truly original editors. You all are shady.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I live for it, the shady Bravo editor.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the Drew Sodora before and after picture.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Weight loss.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it a weight loss because you're in
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the gym?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Or was the weight loss because you were also allegedly
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: on the doctor's bid getting a cosmetic surgery?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: What do you think? Dave?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: It's very teddy Mellencamp all in, I'm I'm all in.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I want to know what the what the tea is? Like?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: What is this all about? Now you're doing weight loss?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I think you know. I've thought about this, Carlos, of
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: starting like a housewives consultant firm, Like there are pageant consultants,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: like I could be a Housewives consultant and they could
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: come to me and say, what do you think my
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: business should be? And I can tell them not that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: And this is one of those things with Drew. I
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: don't know if I would have encouraged her to go
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: down this pathway because I'm not sure it's a lucrative business,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you know, Charay. If Charay had a workout business, that
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: would make sense. She lives a workout lifestyle. It would
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: make sense to me. I haven't seen enough of that
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: from Drew to understand how connected it is to her.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: But this, this is it's.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Very I'm still about you messioning Teddy Mellicamp.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: She has. It's not shady, it's just that's her job.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: That's her business is the same business.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about one of my other favorite shady moments,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the fact that Marlowe alleged that Kenya Moore was driving
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: around in Lisa Ray's range Rover.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: The layers of this were so incredible. The Marlowe Kenya
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: back and forth will always be a joy to me.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: These women know how to throw shade towards one another
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: that cut real deep. And this is ridiculous as anything.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I'm completely here for it. I want the entire controversy
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: to play out over multiple episodes.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, now I'm talking to Kenya in a few weeks
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and I will definitely get the answer on whether or
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: not she was driving around and Lisa Ray's white Range Rover,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: because I.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Need to know that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: But anyways, so one of the highlights of the episode
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was obviously Marlowe's event the misspelling of the word because
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Kenya is a wordsmith, so of course she.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Caught that shade.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: But the one thing that I want to tell Marlowe is,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I know you're excited to have a peach and it's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: been ten years in the making, but be careful about
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: being too overly excited, because when she was trying to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: get a moment out of Kenya based on what Charay
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: and Sonya told her that the other girls were saying,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the reason why Kenya didn't give Marlowe anything is because
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Kenya knew You're trying to get a moment and I'm
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: not going to give you anything. And marlow looked at
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: her very disappointed, like, you really aren't going to let
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: me have this moment, Kenya, I have a peach and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you an Alley hoop and you're
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: not gonna slam dunk it. Marla was pissed and she
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: walked off an embarrassment and spoke to the producers because
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I know that that was going to be the moment
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that she felt like, I'm not a housewife. Because when
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you are a housewife and your event is the season
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: premieeres finale, that's a big deal for you. And I
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: think Marlo was pissed at Kenya because Kenya paid it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: And Kenya has sat back for years and years and
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: watched Marlow come in to scenes right and cause disruption
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and walk on out completely unscathed. You're gonna have to
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: work a little bit harder for kenymore. She is the smartest.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I would put her up in the maybe the top
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: three smartest housewives of all time.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Agreed.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: She knows exactly what she's doing at all times. I'd
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: put Gazelle up there, I'd put Yeady, Serena up there.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Probably these women know what they're doing. And I do
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: not think that she was going to give anything to
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Marlow that Marlow didn't earn, and that was a case
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: that Marlow didn't earn it. Also, it's not like she
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: was the only one talking smack. Everybody said something, So
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: that gossip train is not going to play well back
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: when there's a camera catching everything you're saying.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Now now, and that was the thing. That's what I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: was like, nice, try, Marlowe.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But I get it. This means a lot to you.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: But my concern about Marla this season is I don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: want her to feel like she has to have a
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: moment every time a camera is on her. Because I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: did enjoy the moment at home with her nephews. I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: thought that was the beautiful moment that she had. And
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for marlow to win. But I did have
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Scharai my podcast, and Charay did tell me marlow his
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: beloved belt this season, So I'm a little concerned about
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: my girl.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: So but listen, it sounds like, based on listening to
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: that episode, it sounds like she goes after Candy and
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: they have some back and forth, and again, great, let's
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: bring it out of Candy. Candy's been coasting in a
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: lot of people's eyes for multiple seasons. I think Candy
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: brings a lot. I'm a big Candy fan. I went
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to the restaurant and everything. I love the spinoff. But
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I think that Candy, you know, knows how to play
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: when the when the ball is lobbied her way. So great,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: let's step her up too.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Now all the girls need to step up. But the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: good news is you and I both agree that this
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: was a great season premiere. We're looking forward to seeing
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: more episodes and again, as of now, the show should
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: be called The Real Marlowe of Atlanta.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: And I promise you one thing.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: If I do not see Marlowe with an old white
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: man that she's dating, I'm going to be very disappointed.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: It's a big Papa two point zero. I want to
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: see it. I want to know what's going on here. Yes,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I think that that's the mystery. We want to know
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: who she's dating, Carlos. We can't move on from this, though,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: without talking about the new girl, because everyone's gonna think
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: you hate her if you don't talk about it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that shady.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: We're not being shady. We're just talking about the ones
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: we know very well. But tell me what your thoughts
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: are on the newest houseway.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Listen, the jury still out.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: She's very accomplished, and I'm happy for her accomplishments. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: will say this, her husband is the most attractive man
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that has ever been on Atlanta Housewives. He is stunning,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and I apologize Peter Thomas because you know I love you.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Her man is so fine. He beats Wan Dixon to me. Apollo,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Naida Eddie Osofo, Saya got the best looking husband on
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: reality television.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: She is very attractive, though, Evan Goldschneider with like a word.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, day day no, no day No.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I'm gaggy. You know what, keep talking, it may be
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a time. Keep talking. Let me process that, Bob, you
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: drop because I'm gagging.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: No, I think he's very attractive. I am excited to
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: see she's Jamaican, right, I'm excited to see a Jamaican housewife,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and you know, in the same way that I think
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Wendy Doctor Wendy Esopho introduced us to kind of a
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: new culture within the commune and Potomac. I'm excited to
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: see what, you know, the Jamaican flavor brings to Atlanta.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: No, I am too, I'm too, so I'm very intrigued
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: with that. But listen, I did say that Marlow, Drew
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and Sonya are the future of the show, and I'm
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: curious to see how they're going to carry on for
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Sonya gives me the new candy, accomplished,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: hard worker, interesting family dynamic. So I think that I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: think what Dusea Door is doing, I agree with you.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that she puts down the script and allows
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: herself to be seen more because I do think there's
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: something there.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I love Ralph.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I definitely think Ralph and Drew are giving me loving
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: marriage Atlanta with their historic marital problems. I'm not gonna
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: say that Ralph is a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater allegedly.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: But what I will say is if I was married
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to Ralph, that man would never lea the because I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: won't trust it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely needs location services on at all times
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: on his phone. I need to know where he is.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I also would not trust it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I need to know the password.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: And no flights to Tampa ever, you're not allowed ever
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: in the in Tampa period.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: And I need for social media if I haven't done
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: it yet, you know day that they're going to find
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: out who that woman was that offered wrapa massage because
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: when they were reading her hashtags on Instagram. You know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: these housewife fans are going to do a deep dive
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: with the hashtag and uncover this woman who offered a
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: married man a massage.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: And then posted some like cryptic tweet about or equiptic
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Instagram message about how like you know, I'll get whatever
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I want sort of thing. Was that? What if I
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: read yeah no no no no no no no no
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: no no. If Carlos King were producing that season, I
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: have a feeling we would see that woman would be
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: brought in. Whether you liked it or not, she there,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: She would be showing up, honey.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: She would have showed up to Marlow's event if I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: was producing.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: It exactly and said right next to next to Kenya would.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: As a surprise, who are you, I'm the masseuse.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been. They would have gone to
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: a massage class and she would have been a teacher,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: and then she would have casually brought it up. I mean, listen,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: it writes itself. It's all right there.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back after some quick ass.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the cave. You and I talk
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: for hours. We can't do it on this podcast, but
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I got to pick your brain on some new tea
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: that's brewing in Potomac.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I love Photomac.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: How do we feel about Ashley Darby filing for divorce
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: with Michael.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I think the fans feel like is
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: a long time coming. But there's lots of questions I'm
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: hearing surrounding it. You know, is this something that she's
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: doing just for the show because he didn't want to film?
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Is this something that and that would explain why he
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: didn't want to film?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: So wait, hold on, is Michael not filming this season?
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I have heard that Michael is not filming this season,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: so this is a question, right, did she do that?
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: There was rumors that she tried to buy a house
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: with Michael before they went public with their split, So
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: what's that about. I mean, there's lots of questions everything
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: with Ashley and Michael. For the entire time they've been
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: on the show, there's been questions about what's really going
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: on behind the scenes. I think Ashley Darby is a
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: phenomenal housewife. I think she knows how to deliver great
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: television and I would love to see the liberation of
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Ashley Darby away from somebody who's not making her happy.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, all I care about
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: is her happiness. But I do like that there's a
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: big cloud of question around it all because it just
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: makes it that much more interesting to watch.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: You always have the team Dave.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Exclusively heard here for the first time, allegedly, Michael
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Darby has not been filming this current season of The
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Potomac Housewives.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, listen, we all want to know
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: what he's up to too.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But oh, I think we know what he's up to. Honey,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: those fans will find out.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I think we know what he's up to, what he's into,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: what he's behind, what he's been in. I think we
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: know a lot about Michael Darby is doing.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Child. I don't think we don't know.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I love Potomac I can't wait for it to come back,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: and I've heard other things about this season. It's pretty intense.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Did you hear what I heard about Gisell and Candas
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and Chris Bassett.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I sure have.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Now tell me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: heard more than I have. I heard gizel Is allegedly
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: accusing Chris Bassett of being inappropriate to the women on
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't that be completely shocking to you? I
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: feel like we have watched Chris Bassett on every season
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: of the show be the voice of reason. I love them,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the calm one. He has done nothing but stand beside
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: his wife, even when most people, I think, feel like
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: she didn't deserve to have someone standing by him. He
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: has been there. I think he is a loyal, loving person.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: So if that accusation is lobbied, that would be really
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: shocking to me and kind of makes me wonder how
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: because that is just so not Chris.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Did you hear that too, I've heard rumors.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Of those similar things. Yes, And it's confusing to me.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: And you know, I love Gazelle. We both talked about
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: how much we love Jazelle and what a great housewife
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: she is. But I do wonder whether she's been mistreated
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: by men for so long that she is confusing kindness
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: with malice.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: That's interesting, Okay, I don't know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I mean again, I'm not in this. I don't know
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: all the details, but just hearing that from what you
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: and I are talking about right now, that seems confusing
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: to me that Chris would ever do something like that.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Then again, I believe women, so I want to be
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: supportive of all.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, and listen, I'm with you in terms
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: of I think Chris Bassett is such a great guy.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I think it's so out of.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Character for him to be anything but respectful to everybody.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And if that is.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: What is happening on this season of Atomac Housewife, now
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I understand why Candace Dillard has unfollowed Gazelle.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you something.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: If I'm getting a Candace versus Jazelle Bryant this season,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: oh honey, sign me up and inject this season in
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: my vein Kandace versus Joselle to.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Talk about two titans of reality TV. That would be
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: incredible television. And I'd be curious to see where someone
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: like Robin falls on all of this, because while many
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: people believe that she is traditionally on Giselle's side all
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the time, do you think she would be in this case?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Well, she is supposed to be the reasonable one out
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: of the reasonable shady click, so we shall see with that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But I definitely need to see more Wan Dixon this season.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: And the only other thing I heard about Potomac this
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: season is the fact that Candace may only have one friend.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And that's when.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I heard that Cana and Karen had a moment and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: it seems to be that Candace may I don't know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: be navigating some troubled waters with the friendship this season.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, the beauty of these Housewives shows are
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: all about, you know, shifting dynamics and frank groups and
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: reconciliation and finding ways forward. So I believe they'll find
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: their way through it if that's happening. But I root
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: for Candace in a way.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I love Candace.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: She's an activator, She's good TV in that sense. And
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I've also heard that there may be a blast from
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: the past making some appearances. And Cha or Katie, well
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: we've seen that both of them were at a party. Yeah,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: so that so both of them. But I was thinking
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: another blast from the past. I've heard that there's a
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: that there's somebody from the Housewives universe who may be
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: lurking around and we may see.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: From not a Potomac housewife.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say nothing else beyond that.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait before I let you go, how are my
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Dallas housewive girls doing?
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  Speaker 2: Because I know you keep in touch with them.
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  Speaker 3: They're doing well. Yeah, the girls are all good. You
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: miss Dallas or you said it got the acts.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think I've shared this story with the world,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if I said this to you day,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: but although you united, say a lot to each other
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and we tell each other everything. I was asked to
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: be the executive producer of the Dallas Housewives.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: What yes? Exclusive?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Carlos Sweet. So this was for season A,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: possible season five or from the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So season one of Dallas Housewives aired.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I watched it and I.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Was like, hmm, there's something missing about this show. There's
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: something missing. It was evident that the breakout star was
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Line Lockin. I mean, anybody with eyeboss can see that, correct,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: But I always felt like, Okay, somebody's missing. I was
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: approached to executive produce season two of Dallas Housewives. I
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: was approached by high level executives to take over the show.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, by a man that I called the white Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: He was a part of the conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, continue, okay.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, why not, I'll do it, I said,
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  Speaker 1: but if I do it, I would have to have
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: my company be a part of it. If I do it,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it as like a freelancer.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Those days are gone. Long story short. Unfortunately, the producer
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: of the company or the owner whatever wasn't feeling it,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: like I got to share this company title with Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: That ain't happening. So the conversation ended there. And I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to do it because I saw the potential in
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that franchise, and because I had success with Atlanta, success
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: success with New Jersey.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I wanted to like turn Dallas out.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I was actually like a little bit excited with the
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: possibility of taking over Dallas. But it did not work out.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: So I'm sad to see it not be around. But
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, if it was ever to come back,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I would be open to the conversation again. But my
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: question to you, Dave Quinn, is do you think Dallas
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: would ever come back?
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, my head is really exploding at the idea
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: of you doing that and up you know, of course,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I'm frustrated that you did not tell me this when
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: I was writing the book. That would have been such
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: a good nugget to put in there. But you know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: it's very interesting because if you read that chapter, we
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: talk about the producer rich By from Goodbye Pictures, who
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: had not had experience working with housewives before. He had
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: done a ton of other things for Bravo, and he's
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: an incredible producer and has done incredible shows. But yes,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: this is a different beat and the show didn't start
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: as a housewives show, as many shows that are in
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: development happened, you know, start in a different direction, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: it kind of turned into a housewife show, and learning
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: how to kind of edit for that was challenging for him.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: And I think that cast ran away and ran kind
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: of all over them. I don't think that. So when
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: you ask about it wanting to come back, I don't
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: see it coming back because I think that cast really
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: lost themselves. The number one piece of advice that I
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: give to housewives when I meet them when they're brand
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: new housewives, and I just did this with I met
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: a bunch of the Dubai ladies when they were here
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: in New York, and I pulled them aside and I
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: give them my three or four things that I think
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: they need to know before they enter into this journey
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: of the show airing, And I say, you have to
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: work as a cast. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: It is something you want four or five, six, seasons
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: on the show. You don't want to be isolating people,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: pushing them out, refusing to film with anyone. That's why
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I think Potomac is so successful because Giselle and Karen
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: oil and water, but they understand the importance of the
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: other and they never say I'm not filming with her.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: It's why I'm glad that Porcha's not around this season,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: because I know how difficult it was for her to
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: film with Kenya, and I think it really as a viewer,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: it really we felt it because there wasn't a connection
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: there and it wasn't fun for us as viewers to
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: see them isolating each or her really isolating Kenya, not
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: wanting to be around her and not engaging. So again,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: you have to work as a team, and I don't
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: think the Dallas women towards the end knew really how
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: to work, or even from the beginning knew how to
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: work as a team. So if it comes back, it
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: can't be with those women. I would if I were you,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: give me the Real Housewives of Houston.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Please, Yes, I would love to do a real housebosor
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: of Houston.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of ideas about that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I'll call you separately so we can discuss it, because
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I am ready for it. There is not a single
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Housewives franchise on Bravo right now produced by a black
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: owned production company, and I would really love to see
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: that shift, And I know somebody who would be great
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: at it. So give it to us. Carlos. As busy as.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I am, I have time to produce television because I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: love what I do, and I have said it on
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the record, I think it would be such a great
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: success story for the network to say that the first
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: black guy to executive produce the Real Housewives franchise and
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to have that franchise be Atlanta, for me to break
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: records on my first season being the EP on the show,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to have created a franchise on the Oprah Winfrey Network
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: called Love and Marriage, to have Monique Samuel's anchor the
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Love and Marriage DC show. Why wouldn't you say, like
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: it would be a great story we gave Carlos King,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a black owned production company a housewife show.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's about damn time. Yeah, I'm all for it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: And then you can hire a white guy like me
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: to work for you, and.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I totally would And listen already said this to you,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and I will go on the record saying this. I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: said it to you in private, I'll say it publicly.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: When I have my first book. You're writing it like
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you you've already hired.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: I'm down. I can't wait. That will be an absolute joy.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: It'll write itself. It's your soul, verboth said. All I
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: have to do is transcribe.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, honey, because I have a life that needs
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to be shared.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm here to watch it all and listen
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to it all. Thank you so much for having me.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen. We could talk for another two hours.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: You know we can, But promise me you'll come back on.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: The podcast anytime so that we can talk about other stuff,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: because we again, there's so much more in store on
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: this podcast that I need to pick your brain on
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: something else.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I'm always on the other end of the phone when
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Carlos can calls.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: So Dave, let the world know where they can find you,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: follow you, you, what've been up to, Where they can
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: buy your New York Times best selling book and all
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: those great things.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so the book Not All Diamonds and Rose
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: is for sale everywhere books are sold, and uh, and
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the audiobook is out with Amy Phillips, who we all
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: know and love doing a lot of the accents. So
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: if you guys are Audio Bok fans, she's the best,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: definitely pick that up. And then I'm on social media.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram and Twitter at nine Daves and I
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: share a lot of my writing there. I work for
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: People Magazine and Entertainment Weekly and a bunch of other spots.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I may have a podcast on my own that I'm
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: working on. Yeah, it will not be anything like this.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: I can't top anything like this. Please into totally different.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I'm going in a totally different direction, but I want
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: to offer something that housewise fans don't have right now
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: in the pantheon of podcasts. So a little teaser there.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Well, we are going to follow like, subscribe, review and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: everything else.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I will love you, love you so much.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, thank.
• 44:54
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