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Jason Weaver on The Chi, Brotherhood & Breaking Barriers · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
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Speaker 1: Is Laura le Rosa And this is another episode of
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Speaker 1: of the conversations that shake the room. Baby, going right
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Speaker 1: back into another conversation that is going to shake the room.
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Speaker 1: This is part two of my interview with Jason Weaver
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Speaker 1: where we get into all things The Shy. If you
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Speaker 1: guys didn't know, The Shy is on its final season,
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Speaker 1: season eight. There's twists, there's turns, there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: the drama, but we get into all of the behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes conversation and the meaning with Jason Weaver, let's
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Speaker 1: get into it. So let's let's get into, you know,
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Speaker 1: just some things here with you. Because I started this
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Speaker 1: by mentioning, like, you know, a few ways that people
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Speaker 1: may know you, some stories that we've heard throughout your career,
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Speaker 1: but you've been in this business for a very very
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Speaker 1: long time. What age did you actually start anything entertainment related,
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Speaker 1: even if it was something we don't know about.
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Speaker 3: I actually started in my hometown in Chicago, back when
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Speaker 3: I was like five years old. And you know, I
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Speaker 3: initially started off doing print ads and commercials in the
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Speaker 3: Chicago in the Chicago Land area. Back in the late
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Speaker 3: seventies and the eighties, A lot of the major jingle
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Speaker 3: campaigns that people would hear on national commercials were all
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Speaker 3: created more or less in Chicago, and the talent that
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Speaker 3: was utilized for these spots was mostly black talent. Black musicians,
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Speaker 3: black singers, black vocalists, i should say, and black actors,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and personalities that could be
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Speaker 3: featured in these ads. And so that's the world that
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Speaker 3: I come from. My mother, Marilyn Haywood, also professionally known
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Speaker 3: as Kitty Haywood, in that circle in Chicago. You know,
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Speaker 3: when I expressed an in wanting to pursue acting and
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Speaker 3: get in the entertainment industry, my mother had already had
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Speaker 3: a long successful track record as a jingle singer in
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Speaker 3: Chicago for many years. So you know, she was able
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Speaker 3: to help usher me into the business in a way
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Speaker 3: where you know, I was able to carefully navigate my
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Speaker 3: way through you know, of course, learning and understanding the
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Speaker 3: business as I went along as well, and as I
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Speaker 3: matured and evolved as an artist and a creative and
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Speaker 3: so no, it's been a it's been a long journey,
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Speaker 3: but it's been a blessed one. You know, I'm so
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Speaker 3: grateful that I still have the opportunity even now at
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Speaker 3: forty six years old, you know, to be working, and
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Speaker 3: especially to be on a great show like the Shi. No,
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Speaker 3: I just give all glory and thanks to God, because
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Speaker 3: it's not a lot of people, you know, in our
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Speaker 3: industry that have been able to kind of transcend from
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Speaker 3: you know, generation and generation and for you know, a
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Speaker 3: number of years like that. So I do recognize how extraordinary, Uh,
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Speaker 3: the journey has been so far.
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Speaker 4: As well.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Chicago, because I know
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Speaker 1: The Shy is set in Chicago, and I think you
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Speaker 1: guys do a really good job of showing the backdrop
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Speaker 1: and like the color and the warmth of Chicago. But
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Speaker 1: before we get to the you're welcome, Before we get
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Speaker 1: to the shot, I want to talk about you know,
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Speaker 1: we always have conversations about like nineties sitcoms and those sitcoms.
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Speaker 2: That like we grew up with, so many of them
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Speaker 2: were based.
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Speaker 1: In Chicago, and a lot of people I think when
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Speaker 1: we talk about and correct me on anything I'm wrong on,
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Speaker 1: but family matters, right.
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Speaker 2: Steve Harvey Show.
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Speaker 3: Well, Steve Harvey Chicago, I think it was.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So from what I so, from what I
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Speaker 1: can remember what I have here in my research. But
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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes the sitcoms start Steve Harvey nineteen seventies
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Speaker 1: frunk star who took a job teaching music out of
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Speaker 1: Chicago High School, Kenan and Keale and Malcolm and Eddie
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Speaker 1: between brothers.
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Speaker 4: Wow, you put me onto something because.
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Speaker 1: The reason why I thought about that is because when
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Speaker 1: you said the jingles thing, I'm like, which show do
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Speaker 1: I remember where somebody was trying to do jingles?
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Speaker 2: That was a Jamie Fox show?
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Speaker 1: But that was a Jamie Fox Yeah, but it wasn't
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Speaker 1: It wasn't set in Chicago.
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Speaker 2: But it made me think.
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Speaker 1: But it feels like some of the other shows that
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Speaker 1: I watched, like the Steve Harvey Show and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: So do you remember growing up in that time and
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Speaker 1: you know the way that Chicago or just people in
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Speaker 1: the industry that your mom was working with, how they
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Speaker 1: talked about their black stars and their black.
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Speaker 2: Talent and what stories are being told on TV.
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Speaker 1: And I wonder if that had any influences in the
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Speaker 1: roles and the jobs that you went on and then
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Speaker 1: later take.
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Speaker 4: That's a great question.
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Speaker 3: No, you know, back then when I was first entering
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Speaker 3: into the business, even if shows were technically like based
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Speaker 3: in Chicago, the storyline was based in Chicago, those sitcoms
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Speaker 3: that those stories didn't really have a tendency to lean
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Speaker 3: more towards It's the cultural aspect of what Chicago life was,
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Speaker 3: especially the black experience in Chicago. You know, Chicago is
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Speaker 3: a very proud city, has a long and beautiful history.
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Speaker 3: It was founded by a black man, Jean Baptiste DuSable,
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Speaker 3: who was a Haitian black man who came through New
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Speaker 3: Orleans up the Mississippi River as a fur trader and
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Speaker 3: settled in Chicago.
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Speaker 1: And I did not know he settled in I didn't
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Speaker 1: know that about him. While we both learned in some
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Speaker 1: Chicago stuff today.
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Speaker 3: Huh, absolutely not. The Chicago was founded by a Haitian man,
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Speaker 3: Jean Baptiste point DuSable. I should, I should that we
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Speaker 3: even have a Black history museum, uh, in in the
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Speaker 3: middle of.
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Speaker 4: South Side Chicago.
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Speaker 2: Called the DuSable.
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Speaker 3: Museum, UH to celebrate him and to celebrate much of
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Speaker 3: the notable and powerful Black history that's come out of Chicago.
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Speaker 3: I think, what what the Shah has been able to
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Speaker 3: successfully do and why I'm so proud to be part
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Speaker 3: of it is because I think this has been like
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Speaker 3: the first time that No, I take that back, because
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Speaker 3: when I did Brewster Place with Oprah Winfrey, which was
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Speaker 3: a short lived hour long show that was on ABC
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Speaker 3: years ago, that was set in Chicago, but that was
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Speaker 3: set in like nineteen sixties Chicago, so different kind of era,
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Speaker 3: but the shy for the first time for me, as
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Speaker 3: a proud Chicago and as an actor coming from the city,
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Speaker 3: this is the first time I've really been given an
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Speaker 3: opportunity to kind of share those stories that I'm familiar with,
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Speaker 3: you know, like the family dynamics and the complexity of
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Speaker 3: that whole thing, you know, telling a story about community,
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Speaker 3: particularly the South Side of Chicago, which I'm very familiar
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Speaker 3: with and from. Even when it comes down to the
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Speaker 3: faith aspect and growing up in the church. You know,
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Speaker 3: you saw like the character Pop on our show and
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Speaker 3: his father being a pastor, and you know, I know
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Speaker 3: about that we're growing up in the church from coming
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Speaker 3: from Trinity and also at times attending as a guest
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Speaker 3: Lena's home church, Christ Universal Temple. You know, the cookieouts
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Speaker 3: and all of that stuff. All of those things now,
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Speaker 3: as as an actor hailing from the city, I've been
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Speaker 3: able to do and I'm very proud to do it.
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Speaker 3: I think that one of my main goals as an
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Speaker 3: actor coming from the city has also been to focus
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Speaker 3: more on the authenticity side of it, like what we
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Speaker 3: actually say in the street, how we talk our vernacular,
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Speaker 3: or the way that we express ourselves, our body language,
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Speaker 3: because you know, I think what a lot of people
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Speaker 3: outside of our community are coming to the understanding now
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Speaker 3: is that black people are not a monolith in a sense,
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Speaker 3: especially African Americans. You know, New Yorkers, Black New Yorkers
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Speaker 3: have a way of expressing themselves. Black people from Los Angeles, Louisiana, whatever.
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Speaker 3: So you know, Chicago is too.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're been there.
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Speaker 3: I've never been to Delaware. I've heard good things about it,
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Speaker 3: but I've never been. But I'm sure and you heard.
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Speaker 2: Good things about it. You don't gotta be nice.
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Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay. I was I know you ain't
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Speaker 1: probably never even like delaware like okay, but yeah.
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Speaker 3: I didn't know what we was there. I know Joe
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Speaker 3: blind but yes, but but no, we we've been able to,
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of explore and and display all of that.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm very proud of it. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: So you talk a bit about, you know, just being
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Speaker 1: from Chicago and the authenticity of the show and all
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Speaker 1: the things. I think a common question I heard the
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Speaker 1: cast could ask or like, you know, how do you
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Speaker 1: keep authentic? And you know stuff like that, But what
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Speaker 1: are some of the like responsibilities that you feel as
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Speaker 1: a person that you know. I got a chance to
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Speaker 1: talk to the younger cast, right, and I know a
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Speaker 1: lot of them are from Chicago. But you being older,
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Speaker 1: seeing the changing of times of how black television goes
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Speaker 1: from something like a Steve Harvey show to you know,
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Speaker 1: what we do or don't have now and you're from Chicago,
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Speaker 1: it's like a double win me there. It's like you
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Speaker 1: understand the importance of a show like the Shot, but
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Speaker 1: you also are from Chicago and understanding importance of that
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Speaker 1: as well too. So what are you dealing with when
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Speaker 1: you're walking on set day to day? Because of that.
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Speaker 4: Oh Man, that's another great question.
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Speaker 3: I think that one of the things I'm most proud
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Speaker 3: of with our show and being in Chicago is that,
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Speaker 3: you know, we explore the elements of violence in street life,
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Speaker 3: which is a reality in Chicago, and everybody knows that
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Speaker 3: that seems to be amplified more in mainstream media than
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Speaker 3: anything when people are referencing Chicago. But one of the
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Speaker 3: things that I'm really really proud about is that we
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Speaker 3: are showing the beauty of the community. We are showing
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Speaker 3: the solidarity in the unity that does exist in the community.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the South Side and West Sides and some of
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Speaker 3: the more underserved communities in Chicago and the Chicago lands
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Speaker 3: surrounding Chicago area, yeah, are plague with violence in certain ways,
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Speaker 3: but you know, there's also communities there with heart, Like
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Speaker 3: the community of Inglewood has heart in history, the community
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Speaker 3: of Woodlawn, park manor Chatham, you know, I mean, there
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Speaker 3: are so many communities there that are comprised of black
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Speaker 3: and brown people where you know, those stories have never
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Speaker 3: been told, they've never been acknowledged, and they haven't been
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Speaker 3: told in a beautiful way too. The way that they're
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Speaker 3: depicted visually you know, I think Lena and the directors
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Speaker 3: and the producers do an amazing job of actually presenting
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Speaker 3: the South Side as a thriving, beautiful and colorful community.
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Speaker 3: You know, even when the show is like set in
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Speaker 3: the wintertime, the things that are shot interior, they feel
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Speaker 3: very warm. The homes feel welcoming, you know, the conversations
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Speaker 3: within the home feel relatable even if you're not from
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Speaker 3: the South Side of Chicago. So that's one of the
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Speaker 3: many things that makes me very proud to be associated
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Speaker 3: with the show and represent on behalf of it as well.
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Speaker 1: So your character, First, I have a question last year
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Speaker 1: or maybe even been earlier this year, I can pull
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Speaker 1: up there, let me see what the day on that was.
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Speaker 1: I'd have to pull it back up, but I saw
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Speaker 1: it was like one of the trades. It was like
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Speaker 1: deadline of variety, and they announced that you and what's
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Speaker 1: her name, uh, Deanah Hall or pickword now going to
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Speaker 1: be serious regulars.
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Speaker 2: But you had been a regular on the show already.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's what a lot of people. That's what
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Speaker 3: a lot of people had assumed. I was always technically,
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Speaker 3: since I first came on the show on season four,
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Speaker 3: I was always technically and contractually referred to as a
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Speaker 3: recurring character. Wow, what what ended up happening was is
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Speaker 3: that I think, you know, because with the Sha everything
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Speaker 3: is kind of unpredictable, and I think Lena plays a
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Speaker 3: lot on synergy and connection and flow and authenticity and
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Speaker 3: her ability to tell a story. And I just think
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Speaker 3: over time the type of character shod is Or was,
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Speaker 3: and how his story was so relatable to a lot
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Speaker 3: of people, but also because he was so layered as
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Speaker 3: a character and nuanced, you know, as a character, I
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Speaker 3: think it just made for interesting stories to be built
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Speaker 3: around him, and the audience responded well to that, and
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Speaker 3: so over time, they just kind of kept me on.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I think when season eight finally came
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Speaker 3: around and they realized that that character in particular contributes
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Speaker 3: so much to the overall story arc and storyline of
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Speaker 3: the show, that's when they decided to, you know, promote
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Speaker 3: me the series regular, which I'm I'm very grateful for.
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Speaker 3: I'm very grateful that I got the opportunity to be
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Speaker 3: recognized in that regard in the last season. But even
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Speaker 3: prior to that, prior to becoming a series regular, you know,
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Speaker 3: I was still very honored and proud to be a
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Speaker 3: part of the show. And you know, anything that was
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Speaker 3: required of me, whether it was heavy lifting or just
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Speaker 3: playing more of.
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Speaker 4: A supportive role, you know, I was.
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Speaker 3: I was always enthusiastic, you know, to meet the challenge
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Speaker 3: because again, you know, for me, it's about telling a
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Speaker 3: great story. Yeah, it's about you know, representing something that
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Speaker 3: you know that I believe in that and that I'm
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Speaker 3: proud of.
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Speaker 2: So you know, the regular folks watch it, I'm like,
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Speaker 2: hold on, aw, I mean did.
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Speaker 1: That because I wasn't the reason why I brought that up,
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Speaker 1: because I was like, I know that the Shy has
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Speaker 1: like so many twisting turns in the storyline. So I
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Speaker 1: wonder if you on the talent side wherever, like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I know I'm here and I know I'm a part
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Speaker 1: of the story, but is this something that happens just
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Speaker 1: in case it'd be like no.
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Speaker 3: I mean that that's exactly what it is. You you
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Speaker 3: hit the nail on the head. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 3: Lena has this saying during our table reads, she was like, yeah, y'all,
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Speaker 3: you know, knock out these lines, get it right, you know,
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Speaker 3: sell these lines, because you know, anything can happen on
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Speaker 3: the shot. Nothing's guaranteed. Nobody's guaranteed, and you know, as
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Speaker 3: an actor, it keeps you on edge because you know,
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Speaker 3: each and every week you gotta come with it. You know,
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Speaker 3: there's never a relaxed position that you should ever find
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Speaker 3: yourself in as a creative period. But you know, especially
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Speaker 3: on that show, you will always kind of, well, man,
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Speaker 3: is my character gonna make it?
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Speaker 2: Next week?
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Speaker 4: Am I gonna get killed?
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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that was based on
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Speaker 3: all your performance and how the audience reacted to you
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Speaker 3: and and their engagement with your characters. So thankfully for me,
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Speaker 3: I think you know, a lot of people like genuinely
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Speaker 3: like Shad and could see that at his core he
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Speaker 3: was a good guy and they ended up kind of
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Speaker 3: rooting for him. So that gave me, you know, that
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Speaker 3: ability to stay around a lot longer.
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Speaker 1: I think with Shay, it's like you feel like everybody
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Speaker 1: has a shot in their family or knows a shot,
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Speaker 1: like somebody who just honestly is just like trying.
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Speaker 2: To do the right thing.
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Speaker 1: But you you're playing the cards you were dealt to
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Speaker 1: a certain extent, but you are you there's a boundary
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Speaker 1: or a cutoff with you as a human.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Now it's so funny that you would mention
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Speaker 3: that I have so many I have so many black
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Speaker 3: men in particular that range and age, you know, who
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Speaker 3: have dealt with similar circumstances in their personal lives. You
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Speaker 3: know that that that kind of run parallel maybe to
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Speaker 3: what Shod has experienced, even being incarcerated maybe at one
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Speaker 3: point in their lives and trying to re enter back
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Speaker 3: into society and be given a second chance. And not
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Speaker 3: a lot of those stories are told from an honest
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Speaker 3: and respectful point of view, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: I think with Shad's character, it really showed in a
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Speaker 3: very authentic way the obstacles that he was being confronted
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Speaker 3: with and that he had to hurtle over, and even
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Speaker 3: the decisions that he made in his mind, whether it's
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Speaker 3: way left or right, whether it's stay legit or whether
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Speaker 3: you go back into the gangster world. Even when we
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Speaker 3: explored those things, they were explored in a very honest
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Speaker 3: and respectful and authentic way, which I think a lowed
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Speaker 3: especially a lot of the black men who became later
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Speaker 3: on familiar with our show, finds something to connect with,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: In the show.
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Speaker 3: So so that was good and I was happy that
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Speaker 3: I was able to serve in that regard as an actor,
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Speaker 3: in helping to tell that story, because you know, that
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Speaker 3: does impact me. It does matter to me when other
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Speaker 3: brothers come up to me and they and they share
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Speaker 3: their stories with me, and how through you know, watching
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Speaker 3: the show in some kind of way, it maybe gave them,
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Speaker 3: you know, some additional insight or maybe gave them, you know,
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Speaker 3: some more hope, you know, and knowing that there's a
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Speaker 3: silver liner, that there's light at the end of the tunnel,
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Speaker 3: even for them. So I'm glad that I was able
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Speaker 3: to serve in that regard.
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Speaker 1: I hear a lot of the ass members, you guys
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Speaker 1: tell those type of stories where people are like really
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Speaker 1: relating to the characters. Do you remember a time that
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Speaker 1: was like super like touching or like just you have
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Speaker 1: a lot have had a long career, but just from
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Speaker 1: the shy and just a shot a time where someone's
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Speaker 1: come up to you in the conversation or the specific
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Speaker 1: topic that they've talked about has been like man, like
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Speaker 1: I'm doing that, like you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I've had I had a brother stop me
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Speaker 3: because I'm a Cubs fan and when I'm at home,
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Speaker 3: I frequent this restaurant called Harry Carrey's and it's like
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Speaker 3: a Chicago sports memorabilia type of restaurant, sports themed restaurant
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Speaker 3: based on the legendary Hairy Carey. And as I was
17:42
Speaker 3: walking into the restaurant, there was a young brother who
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Speaker 3: approached me and he was taking donations for something that
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Speaker 3: they were doing in their neighborhood. I forgot what neighborhood
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Speaker 3: is from Ou South, but you know, we were just
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Speaker 3: taking donations for whatever it was they was doing. So
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Speaker 3: I donated a couple dollars and and he and I
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Speaker 3: just struck up a conversation, and you know, towards the
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Speaker 3: latter end of the conversation, as we were getting ready
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Speaker 3: to part ways, he said, Hey, man, I just want
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Speaker 3: to let you know, like, you know, I know who
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Speaker 3: you are.
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Speaker 2: You know, I.
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Speaker 3: Respect your work, and man, thank you man for telling
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Speaker 3: telling real stories, for helping the tell real stories like
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Speaker 3: related to us. Man, Like, you know, I just came
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Speaker 3: home too. You know, I've had my challenges and I
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Speaker 3: felt like sometimes I'm just kind of on my own island.
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Speaker 3: And what that show, what that character has shown me
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Speaker 3: is that I'm really not alone. There's a lot of
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Speaker 3: brothers like me out here that are really just trying
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Speaker 3: to make it, you know, but just have had to
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Speaker 3: deal with the BS man and like, you know, the
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Speaker 3: circumstances and the cars that they were dealt. He said, Well, man,
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Speaker 3: I just want to let you know those stories matter
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Speaker 3: in the way that you portray it, and you do
18:49
Speaker 3: it so proudly as a Chicagoan, that means a lot
18:51
Speaker 3: to me. Man, So God bless you. You know what
18:53
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Keep doing your thing, And that meant a
18:56
Speaker 3: lot to me, you know, especially coming from a young
18:59
Speaker 3: brother coming from the city, because you know, so many
19:02
Speaker 3: guys from the city, especially the young ones, have gone
19:04
Speaker 3: through so much where they're hardened, and it's hard for
19:08
Speaker 3: them to be able to be vulnerable like that and
19:11
Speaker 3: express themselves and share, you know, some of the more
19:15
Speaker 3: intimate moments of their lives that have made them feel
19:18
Speaker 3: uncertain or where they question their future. And you know,
19:21
Speaker 3: for that young man to take time, even while he
19:23
Speaker 3: outside hustling and trying to do his thing, to let
19:26
Speaker 3: me know that he sees me as I'm seeing him,
19:29
Speaker 3: it's those it's those kind of interactions that you know,
19:32
Speaker 3: make it even more even more rewarding, you know, past
19:35
Speaker 3: a paycheck that you can earn from it, you know,
19:38
Speaker 3: pass any kind of surface level recognition that you can receive.
19:42
Speaker 3: It's those kind of conversations on the street, you know,
19:45
Speaker 3: with the real guys.
19:46
Speaker 4: That I'm representing.
19:47
Speaker 3: That that that makes me very proud and I'm thankful,
19:51
Speaker 3: you know, to the Lord that I'm used as a
19:53
Speaker 3: vessel in some kind of way, you know, to be
19:56
Speaker 3: able to provide that that sense of hope and that
19:58
Speaker 3: encouragement to go of people in general who can relate
20:01
Speaker 3: to that kind of character.
20:03
Speaker 2: You know.
20:04
Speaker 1: I think about like all of the characters that lean
20:06
Speaker 1: Away has either developed in front of us, where like
20:08
Speaker 1: the Shy was the first time I met them, or
20:10
Speaker 1: these are characters that I've known in love and grew
20:12
Speaker 1: up with and now she reinvents them on the Shy
20:14
Speaker 1: And just how no matter how big the celebrity of
20:17
Speaker 1: a person is, like you guys are all super approachable,
20:20
Speaker 1: Like we've been watching you in various different ways for
20:24
Speaker 1: a very long time, but like I'm listening to you, like,
20:26
Speaker 1: oh I just am you know, out in the community
20:29
Speaker 1: headed to my favorite spot in Chicago, and I know
20:31
Speaker 1: people seeing you and in the community also mean something too,
20:35
Speaker 1: like they really feel connected to the character because like, no,
20:37
Speaker 1: he's here, he really is boots on a girl.
20:39
Speaker 2: He understand what's going on.
20:41
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now they can. I mean that's the thing
20:43
Speaker 3: with me. I've always been one of those people. I've
20:47
Speaker 3: always viewed myself as an artist. In order to be
20:49
Speaker 3: able to tell the.
20:50
Speaker 4: Stories of people, you have to be amongst the people.
20:54
Speaker 4: You have to be able to relate to and understand
20:56
Speaker 4: what people go through in their everyday lives. And you
20:59
Speaker 4: can't do that behind the iron fence, and you can't
21:02
Speaker 4: do that behind you know, a superficial point of view
21:05
Speaker 4: of all, I got money and you know, I got
21:07
Speaker 4: a little bit of fame and recognition. And then coming
21:10
Speaker 4: from Chicago too, you just can't be that way, Like
21:13
Speaker 4: you can't be from there and be one of those
21:16
Speaker 4: kind of people that isn't approachable. You know, it's a
21:18
Speaker 4: blue collar town and you know, everybody works hard to
21:22
Speaker 4: put food on the table for their family. So what
21:24
Speaker 4: makes you so different just because you're on TV? You
21:27
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
21:27
Speaker 3: So you know with me, I also I also recognize
21:31
Speaker 3: it's important for the youth, for the younger generation to
21:35
Speaker 3: see me, to see me in the neighborhood, to see
21:38
Speaker 3: me present and engaging with them so that they know
21:41
Speaker 3: like it's tangible or it's within reach, you know what
21:45
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and you can accomplish and do the same
21:47
Speaker 3: thing too, Like anytime when I'm home, people can see
21:50
Speaker 3: me on seventy fifth at Lim's Barbecue, you know what
21:53
Speaker 3: I'm saying. At anytime, people can see me, you know,
21:56
Speaker 3: out South, like in Max so smoky, Oh yeah, a smoke.
22:00
Speaker 3: He's like, no, Chicago sees me. And then I'm involved
22:04
Speaker 3: with the community. I serve on the advisory board for
22:07
Speaker 3: a nonprofit that's situated on the South Side and Woodlawn
22:12
Speaker 3: called Hello Baby. And Hello Baby is basically a center
22:17
Speaker 3: or in a safe space for young families, particularly young
22:21
Speaker 3: mothers and young fathers, to be able to build a
22:25
Speaker 3: stronger bond and rapport with their child because in most
22:28
Speaker 3: underserved communities, especially on the South Side of Chicago, they're
22:31
Speaker 3: multi generational homes that really don't allow you know, young
22:36
Speaker 3: parents to be able to establish, you know, an even
22:39
Speaker 3: stronger bond and connection with their young children because it'll
22:42
Speaker 3: be so many disciplinarians and so many different energies in
22:45
Speaker 3: the household. But what Hello Baby does is it provides
22:49
Speaker 3: a safe haven right there in the middle of the
22:51
Speaker 3: South Side in the community for young parents and for
22:55
Speaker 3: kids to come together and just play.
22:57
Speaker 2: And to learn.
22:59
Speaker 3: We do giveaways like with diapers and you know, hygiene
23:04
Speaker 3: products and things like that. You know, think every day
23:06
Speaker 3: essentials that people need, you know, we give those and
23:09
Speaker 3: donate those to the community. And so you know, it
23:13
Speaker 3: even goes past representing it on screen as an actor.
23:16
Speaker 3: I'm just a firm believer that also while representing in
23:20
Speaker 3: that regard, I think it's also important to give back
23:23
Speaker 3: to the community that you're actually portraying or that you're
23:26
Speaker 3: trying to shed light on as well.
23:27
Speaker 1: Do you think okay, first question, do you think that
23:33
Speaker 1: not even just Chicago and any underserved community, right like,
23:36
Speaker 1: lean Away does an amazing job. And I'm gonna keep
23:39
Speaker 1: saying this because if I don't know who doesn't watch
23:41
Speaker 1: the shot at this point, But if you don't watch
23:42
Speaker 1: the shot, you should, And if you do watch the shot,
23:44
Speaker 1: like I want people to say this more. She does
23:47
Speaker 1: such a good job at painting the Chicago warm. I
23:51
Speaker 1: remember my first time going to Chicago, like it was
23:53
Speaker 1: maybe four or five months ago.
23:55
Speaker 2: Okay, and I felt very ignorant.
23:57
Speaker 1: Because when I was there, what I even after watching
24:00
Speaker 1: the shy because I felt like, okay, that's and I
24:03
Speaker 1: think most people watching this will think, or who've watched
24:06
Speaker 1: it may think this tooth never been there.
24:07
Speaker 2: When you watch something like the shot, you.
24:09
Speaker 1: Feel like if you're not local, if you're not from there,
24:11
Speaker 1: you're not gonna never find that. Like you go to
24:13
Speaker 1: this place, but you might not find that community for
24:16
Speaker 1: real because you don't know the people there. So it's
24:18
Speaker 1: either you're on like the tourist the outskirts, or if
24:20
Speaker 1: you go into the part where you see your people,
24:22
Speaker 1: now you gotta get now we now we're thinking about
24:25
Speaker 1: everything we hear in the news when it comes to Chicago.
24:27
Speaker 2: Right.
24:27
Speaker 1: I went there though, and I saw, oh my god,
24:29
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in Atlanta. Like I went
24:31
Speaker 1: to the Soho House and I was like, the first
24:33
Speaker 1: thing I said was, it's so many black people in here.
24:35
Speaker 1: The only place I've ever seen so many black people
24:37
Speaker 1: spend money like that was in Atlanta.
24:40
Speaker 2: It was like wealth and like luxury.
24:42
Speaker 1: Do you think that even with shows like the Shy
24:46
Speaker 1: that underserved in communities like Chicago get talked about the
24:52
Speaker 1: way that they do, will ever get the justification they
24:54
Speaker 1: deserve even with shows like The Shot. Do you think
24:56
Speaker 1: that will actually ever happen, like when they be eradicated
24:58
Speaker 1: through these you know, shows and movies, or will there
25:02
Speaker 1: always be that stigma that you just gotta go see it?
25:04
Speaker 2: Oh?
25:04
Speaker 3: No, no, no, man, Yet another great question. I love
25:09
Speaker 3: love these questions.
25:09
Speaker 2: It's not job, Jason, you know, not be doing that.
25:11
Speaker 3: Laurie, you you like what I said.
25:13
Speaker 2: I'm a fan.
25:14
Speaker 3: I watch you on the show, so I already know
25:17
Speaker 3: you're gonna come with it. But no, I that's a
25:20
Speaker 3: great question. I think what what the Shy has done?
25:24
Speaker 3: And I always say this, I think it's opened up
25:27
Speaker 3: Pandora's box in a sense. Well, no, that's the wrong thing.
25:30
Speaker 3: I think what it's done is just open up the
25:34
Speaker 3: floodgates to where more of these kind of stories can
25:37
Speaker 3: be told. I think for for for so long, black
25:41
Speaker 3: storytellers have been reluctant to go deeper. And then the
25:47
Speaker 3: things that really affect our community, you know, multi generational families,
25:54
Speaker 3: mental health, lgbt Q plus issues, you know, dealing with incarceration,
26:02
Speaker 3: re entry into society, but having a real conversation about it.
26:06
Speaker 3: Men's healing circles, sisters healing circles. We have helped, I think,
26:15
Speaker 3: introduce the conversation where we can have a more broader
26:20
Speaker 3: conversation and to be able to tell more complex and
26:24
Speaker 3: diverse stories, even particular when it comes to the city
26:28
Speaker 3: of Chicago, because yes, you do have the South Side
26:32
Speaker 3: in the West Side communities of Chicago, but you also
26:36
Speaker 3: have the Black families that live in the suburbs, that
26:38
Speaker 3: outlying suburbs of Chicago, in the overall Chicago Land area,
26:42
Speaker 3: whether they live in Naperville or whether they live in
26:46
Speaker 3: communities like where I grew up in South Holland and
26:49
Speaker 3: South Suburbs. And you know, there's so many as far
26:54
Speaker 3: as the Black experience when talking about Chicago and the
26:57
Speaker 3: Chicago Land Area, there's so many different stories race to tell,
27:02
Speaker 3: so many more interesting stories to tell. And I do
27:04
Speaker 3: believe that the Shy has helped to just usher in
27:07
Speaker 3: that new era of writing and storytelling, particularly with the
27:11
Speaker 3: Black experience in Chicago and just hopefully for the Black
27:15
Speaker 3: experience just in America in general. Like you know, I
27:18
Speaker 3: think I think some of the things that we explored
27:21
Speaker 3: and that we touched on in the shy, although it
27:24
Speaker 3: made some audience members uncomfortable, I think it was necessary
27:29
Speaker 3: because what it?
27:31
Speaker 4: What it?
27:32
Speaker 1: What was the most necessary thing? You think that made
27:34
Speaker 1: people uncomfortable, but was very necessary.
27:37
Speaker 3: I'll be honest. I think a lot of the things
27:39
Speaker 3: that we touched on lgbt Q plus related, particularly black
27:44
Speaker 3: men's perspective with it, you know, with I'm sorry.
27:48
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
27:49
Speaker 1: You and Triggs character in Luke James character or Vic
27:52
Speaker 1: in the show are like best friends, but you're a
27:54
Speaker 1: straight male And I'm not for sure how Vic or
27:57
Speaker 1: Trick identifies in the show specifically, but I know that
28:00
Speaker 1: he is dating a trans woman.
28:04
Speaker 2: Trans.
28:06
Speaker 1: Yes, so, and we get to see that relationship play
28:09
Speaker 1: out on screen. Yeah, and that's a big You guys
28:13
Speaker 1: almost act like it's.
28:14
Speaker 2: Not happening even though we're watching it.
28:15
Speaker 1: In road time talk a bit about just you know,
28:18
Speaker 1: character development there and kind of you know, feeling what
28:22
Speaker 1: you why you think that that's so necessary?
28:25
Speaker 3: No, I thought, you know, what was so interesting about
28:27
Speaker 3: that was the way that we explored with those two characters,
28:33
Speaker 3: that dynamic. You had one my character who was staunched
28:38
Speaker 3: against that, like for him anything related to LGBTQ, especially
28:43
Speaker 3: his best friend and he dating a transgender woman. Oh
28:47
Speaker 3: I'm just not that, ain't it? And it was conflict
28:50
Speaker 3: in the very beginning in season four, and then over
28:54
Speaker 3: time as they began to connect more as brothers and
29:01
Speaker 3: be there more for one another as brothers, Shah begin
29:05
Speaker 3: to realize that, man, that don't even matter. I just
29:08
Speaker 3: want my brother to be happy. It's so it's so
29:10
Speaker 3: much shit that we go through out here in the
29:12
Speaker 3: real world anyhow as black men. The last thing I
29:15
Speaker 3: want to do is lean on my brother like that
29:18
Speaker 3: and make him feel even worse for just being who
29:21
Speaker 3: he is, simply just being who he is and what
29:24
Speaker 3: he likes and how he chooses to love and what
29:27
Speaker 3: that did. Because I remember when in kudos to Luke James,
29:32
Speaker 3: you know, for being the extraordinary artist that he was
29:36
Speaker 3: to be able to dive into that as an actor
29:40
Speaker 3: and to be able to depict that and help tell
29:42
Speaker 3: that story. You know, I think because I've been approaching
29:46
Speaker 3: the street by other black men again when we first
29:50
Speaker 3: explore that storyline, I have brothers coming to me like, yo, hey, man,
29:56
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie to you like, you know, I
29:58
Speaker 3: kind of stopped watching The Shy a little bit, you know,
30:00
Speaker 3: because it just felt like, you know, prior of your
30:03
Speaker 3: character coming on, they was like forcing the you know,
30:05
Speaker 3: the gay stuff on me, man, And I wasn't really
30:08
Speaker 3: like feeling that, you know what I'm saying. I'd be like, okay,
30:11
Speaker 3: I hear you well, Man, when your character came on,
30:13
Speaker 3: you know, because I saw you was on the show,
30:16
Speaker 3: I wanted to tap back in and see what you
30:17
Speaker 3: was gonna do on there. And Man, when I saw
30:19
Speaker 3: your character and like Trig going through they thing, he said, Man,
30:24
Speaker 3: if it, you know, it helped me to come to
30:25
Speaker 3: grips my relationship with my brother, man, because you know,
30:29
Speaker 3: my brother's either gay or my brother you know, has
30:32
Speaker 3: a preference, you know, what he likes and how he
30:35
Speaker 3: chooses to love it. For years, we never talked about it,
30:38
Speaker 3: and I didn't know how to talk to him about it,
30:40
Speaker 3: and he didn't know how to talk to me about it. Well, man,
30:42
Speaker 3: we ended up just having a conversation about it because
30:44
Speaker 3: we started talking about the show and how how Shod
30:47
Speaker 3: and Trigg were on there, and so, you know, unbeknownst
30:51
Speaker 3: us at the time, as we were filming it, you know,
30:54
Speaker 3: we knew we were gonna it was gonna be a
30:56
Speaker 3: water cooler piece, so to speak, where people were gonna
30:59
Speaker 3: talk about it.
31:00
Speaker 2: But I don't think we.
31:00
Speaker 3: Really had any idea how it was going to serve
31:04
Speaker 3: in a therapeutic way, particularly like with black men, to
31:08
Speaker 3: where we can have more open conversations about it together
31:12
Speaker 3: versus it being a thing where oh, that's them over
31:15
Speaker 3: there and it's us. It was like, no, that's what
31:17
Speaker 3: I meant by like, you guys are like doing like
31:20
Speaker 3: you are active, like you're just moving around your world
31:23
Speaker 3: like it's not even happening.
31:24
Speaker 2: That's what I mean by that.
31:25
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it almost teaches us, which we should
31:28
Speaker 1: know as simple human beings. But there are a lot
31:29
Speaker 1: of people who do divide, okay, you and them and
31:32
Speaker 1: us when it's like, for realal, we all just maneuvering
31:36
Speaker 1: throughout this world.
31:36
Speaker 3: Every day and everybody's trying their best, you know what
31:39
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And especially in the eyes of God, if
31:43
Speaker 3: you want to talk about sin and all of that, man,
31:45
Speaker 3: we all sinners in the eyes of God, man, and
31:47
Speaker 3: we all sin each and every day. And it's just
31:50
Speaker 3: my personal viewpoint, and people can can disagree and they
31:53
Speaker 3: have their opinion about it, and that's fine. And I'm
31:57
Speaker 3: not trying to impose upon anyone my beliefs or what
32:01
Speaker 3: I think. But I'm just the kind of person where
32:04
Speaker 3: I just want to extend and treat everybody with grace
32:07
Speaker 3: and respect. I don't have any contempt or hatred towards anyone,
32:10
Speaker 3: And it's none of my business how you choose to
32:13
Speaker 3: live your life or how you choose to love. It's
32:16
Speaker 3: not my job. That's the Lord's job, you know what
32:18
Speaker 3: I mean. And my job or the commandment that's been
32:21
Speaker 3: placed upon me as my Lord and savior sinning in
32:23
Speaker 3: the heaven.
32:24
Speaker 4: We just love one another.
32:26
Speaker 3: And that's all I try to do every day.
32:28
Speaker 1: Now.
32:28
Speaker 3: I ain't perfect, you know. I definitely have my issues
32:31
Speaker 3: like everyone else as well, and you know, there are
32:34
Speaker 3: different things that I can do to improve as a
32:36
Speaker 3: human being, but I do just try to keep it
32:39
Speaker 3: at the forefront of my mind every day to just
32:41
Speaker 3: treat people how I want to be treated and try
32:43
Speaker 3: to love from that frequency. And you know, if more
32:48
Speaker 3: people would embrace that, man, it would make the world
32:51
Speaker 3: an even better place. But you know, in the meantime,
32:54
Speaker 3: those of us who who may embrace that more, we
32:58
Speaker 3: also have a duty to try to share that with
33:01
Speaker 3: others and try to help them see a different perspective
33:04
Speaker 3: as well. And that's what I try to do through
33:06
Speaker 3: my art. So yeah, with shod that was.
33:09
Speaker 2: It for me time.
33:11
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here listening to you talk, and I'm
33:13
Speaker 1: thinking about how amazing you and Luke James's chemistry as
33:18
Speaker 1: best friends and as brothers on screen is. I'm wondering
33:21
Speaker 1: what it's like off screen. And I'm wondering because that
33:25
Speaker 1: becomes a responsibility that can be as positive as it is,
33:29
Speaker 1: it can be kind of dark and heavy. Have there
33:32
Speaker 1: been moments whereas brothers off screen, you guys have had
33:35
Speaker 1: to remind each other of like the responsibility of the
33:38
Speaker 1: silver lining of it because of some of the you know,
33:40
Speaker 1: people who aren't as positive and receiving messages and stuff
33:44
Speaker 1: like that.
33:44
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
33:45
Speaker 3: Nah, Well, I will say this, if there are any
33:49
Speaker 3: booze from the crowd when it comes to that and
33:52
Speaker 3: helping to tell stories in that regard, we don't even
33:55
Speaker 3: hear it. We're so we're so immersed in the work
33:58
Speaker 3: and so focused on the work and making sure that
34:02
Speaker 3: the art is displayed beautifully and maintains its initial integrity
34:08
Speaker 3: and how it's supposed to be presented from the writer's perspective.
34:11
Speaker 3: We don't pay attention to that. When Luke and I
34:13
Speaker 3: get together and go over scenes and talk about our
34:16
Speaker 3: characters and we just hanging out period, it's just, man,
34:20
Speaker 3: we're in a bubble of positivity and in a bubble
34:24
Speaker 3: of creativity to where no, none of that is even discussed.
34:28
Speaker 3: I think the main thing that we discussed is between
34:31
Speaker 3: the both of us is how can we be better? Yeah,
34:34
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, Okay, last scene that
34:37
Speaker 3: we did that was good, but now how can we
34:40
Speaker 3: how can we turn it up a little bit more
34:42
Speaker 3: to be able to provide you know, a different a
34:45
Speaker 3: different point of view, you know, with this character. So
34:47
Speaker 3: the and and and I might add to Luke James,
34:50
Speaker 3: it's just an absolute pleasure to work. He was a
34:54
Speaker 3: pleasure to work alongside with consummate professional, true artists, true actor.
35:00
Speaker 3: I will forget sometimes that he's a phenomenal vocalist because
35:03
Speaker 3: the way that he just he commits as an.
35:06
Speaker 4: Actor, he's just awesome. So it was an honor to
35:09
Speaker 4: work with him.
35:10
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's it's been amazing watch you guys
35:13
Speaker 1: on screen, and even in this new season and the
35:16
Speaker 1: last season, Oh my god, I'm like why, Like I
35:19
Speaker 1: feel like my family's about to leave me and like
35:22
Speaker 1: where or something like it. Really, I'm like, why does
35:24
Speaker 1: kind of be over? And I know every show has
35:27
Speaker 1: its time, but because we don't get a lot of
35:29
Speaker 1: this good feeling all the time, It's like why I
35:32
Speaker 1: felt the same way when Insecure, I wasn't going to
35:35
Speaker 1: do anymore seasons. Love is when that didn't get more seasons.
35:40
Speaker 1: Like there are certain things on television where you're just
35:42
Speaker 1: like why.
35:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I always I always say this because
35:47
Speaker 3: I've been in the business for so long and you know,
35:50
Speaker 3: have my fair share of productions that have like ended
35:54
Speaker 3: or you know, all good things must come to an end, right,
35:59
Speaker 3: And every show serves its purpose for the time that
36:02
Speaker 3: it's supposed to.
36:03
Speaker 4: Be on there.
36:04
Speaker 3: And yeah, although it's bittersweet for us too, as the
36:07
Speaker 3: cast and the crew, we all walked away on rap
36:12
Speaker 3: day feeling like we served our time and our purpose
36:15
Speaker 3: and now it's time for a new show or a
36:20
Speaker 3: new creative to come forward and a new story to
36:22
Speaker 3: be told and present it in a way also to
36:26
Speaker 3: the audience where we can truly benefit from it. You know,
36:30
Speaker 3: I think that's another thing too. And I say this
36:33
Speaker 3: with all due respect because I'm still a part of
36:36
Speaker 3: the machine, if you will, and kind of came up
36:39
Speaker 3: under the old Hollywood system. But you know, I'm encouraged
36:42
Speaker 3: now to see that there are more black independent creatives
36:48
Speaker 3: filmmakers who are now finding ways to get their story
36:51
Speaker 3: out of there and to be able to monetize it
36:54
Speaker 3: to where they can benefit from it financially as well,
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Speaker 3: and not just giving like a small piece of the pie,
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Speaker 3: but actually have an ownership in the work that they're
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Speaker 3: that that they're doing, and that they believe in. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, I think we're in a very interesting chapter
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Speaker 3: right now as you're seeing more of us segue or
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Speaker 3: transition out of the traditional Hollywood mold and now transitioning
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Speaker 3: more into you know, independent uh filmmaking and hitting our
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Speaker 3: niche or our base audiences and being able to benefit
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Speaker 3: from that. And so I feel encouraged from that, and
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Speaker 3: I think that you're going to see a lot more
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Speaker 3: young black filmmakers who are going to be willing to
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Speaker 3: step out on faith and tell their stories truthfully and
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Speaker 3: authentically and unapologetically, and and serving the audience who will
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Speaker 3: be able to appreciate that and will be it will
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Speaker 3: be willing to pay for it. So yeah, you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm grateful for shows like this and many others that
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Speaker 3: came before us. We've served our purpose and now it's
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Speaker 3: time for the new creatives and the new generation to
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Speaker 3: you know, now carry the mantle moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me. I feel like
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Speaker 1: I've taken up so much. I had so much prepared
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Speaker 1: to talk to you about. We would be here for
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Speaker 1: like five hours, honestly, so we got to do this
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Speaker 1: again sometime. No, we'll definitely do it again. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: it's been an absolute pleasure. You know, I really and
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Speaker 1: genuinely respect you the journalists. You are the accomplished black
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Speaker 1: woman that you are. I wish you nothing but success
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Speaker 1: moving forward. I definitely look forward to to linking up
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Speaker 1: with you guys when when I eventually come to New York,
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Speaker 1: and then even before then, if you're in Atlanta once
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Speaker 1: we get the show up and running, I have Christy
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Speaker 1: reach out to you one of our reps from eighty
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Speaker 1: five or from the show and we'll make it happen.
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Speaker 2: Got you, Okay, I'm gonna hold you to it.
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Speaker 3: All right, all right, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, y'all.
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Speaker 1: This has been another episode of the Latest with Landa Rosa.
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