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- 0:00Speaker 1: A Russian drone strike this morning has hit a commuter
- 0:02Speaker 1: train in Ukraine's Kharkiv region. One passenger was killed in
- 0:06Speaker 1: the attack and several more were injured. Ukraine uses trains
- 0:10Speaker 1: to move troops and equipment, so Moscow has upped its
- 0:13Speaker 1: attacks on the rails. The vast rail system, vital, a lifeline,
- 0:18Speaker 1: which makes it a prime target. It's also the way
- 0:21Speaker 1: that our CBC News team travelled into Ukraine. Our Briar
- 0:25Speaker 1: Stewart has just arrived in Kyiv, actually on this train.
- 0:28Speaker 1: It's not the one that was targeted in that drone strike. Briar,
- 0:32Speaker 1: take us through Moscow's upping of attacks against Ukraine's rail system.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Well, yes, as you mentioned, I mean, the rail network
- 0:43Speaker 2: in this country is absolutely vital, not only for moving passengers,
- 0:46Speaker 2: but also goods, grain, resources, humanitarian aid. There are 20,000
- 0:51Speaker 2: kilometres of track across Ukraine today.
- 0:54Speaker 3: And really so much of.
- 0:55Speaker 2: It now is coming under increased attack and in many
- 0:58Speaker 2: cases threats. And not only are we seeing attacks on
- 1:02Speaker 2: locomotives specifically, but because of the threat of drones, you
- 1:06Speaker 2: are seeing a train system that has been severely impacted
- 1:11Speaker 2: by just the threats and leading to multi-hour delays. Now,
- 1:15Speaker 2: I came in on the train along with my crew
- 1:17Speaker 2: from Lviv to Kyiv. It is one of the most
- 1:20Speaker 2: busy routes typically because it's coming from Western Ukraine into
- 1:24Speaker 2: the capital. And our train ride went quite smoothly. It
- 1:29Speaker 2: was about an hour delayed, really no big deal. But certainly,
- 1:32Speaker 2: you know, speaking to rail staff, they've talked about kind
- 1:36Speaker 2: of this environment where there is this increased tension.
- 1:40Speaker 3: Just this morning, a train in Kharkiv was hit by
- 1:44Speaker 3: a drone.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Passengers had been evacuated off that train, but what officials
- 1:48Speaker 2: say is that At least some of them hadn't moved
- 1:51Speaker 2: far enough away. They're supposed to move about 200 meters
- 1:54Speaker 2: when there's a threat of a drone. And one person
- 1:57Speaker 2: was killed and seven people were injured. And that's really
- 2:00Speaker 2: just the latest attack. Earlier this week, there was a
- 2:03Speaker 2: strike on a train that was just two kilometers or.
- 2:06Speaker 3: So from the Polish border.
- 2:08Speaker 2: And, you know, the Ukraine Railways is putting out alerts
- 2:11Speaker 2: like this every day. I spoke with a steward that
- 2:15Speaker 2: was on the train yesterday as we came in, and
- 2:18Speaker 2: she told me that on one of the routes she
- 2:20Speaker 2: took last week, passengers on board had to be evacuated.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Five different times along the way.
- 2:26Speaker 2: And on one of those occasions, they had to basically
- 2:29Speaker 2: stand outside in a field for around two hours.
- 2:32Speaker 3: So it is having a severe impact.
- 2:36Speaker 2: You have railway operators now changing the rules, not boarding passengers,
- 2:40Speaker 2: for instance, if there's a threat of a ballistic missile strike.
- 2:44Speaker 2: But they basically have a team of people, Ukrainian Railways does,
- 2:48Speaker 2: monitoring threats of drones. And now whenever there's a possibility
- 2:52Speaker 2: that a drone could be headed for a train, they
- 2:55Speaker 2: have to evacuate all the passengers.
- 2:58Speaker 1: That is quite something. Nearly five years into this war, Breyer.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Very glad to have you there. And I also want
- 3:03Speaker 1: to get your assessment of Poland's prime minister and this
- 3:08Speaker 1: warning being sent out to countries allied with Poland's neighbour, Ukraine.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Yeah, and it certainly was a very strong warning coming
- 3:18Speaker 2: from Prime Minister Donald Tusk of Poland, saying that Russia
- 3:21Speaker 2: was planning to launch a hybrid attack of missiles and
- 3:25Speaker 2: drones against countries supporting Ukraine.
- 3:28Speaker 3: He said it was from intelligence agencies. He didn't name
- 3:31Speaker 3: those intelligence agencies.
- 3:32Speaker 2: And certainly we haven't heard that kind of language precisely
- 3:37Speaker 2: from other European leaders. That being said, I think there
- 3:40Speaker 2: is a lot of growing concern about Russian attacks and
- 3:45Speaker 2: particularly hybrid warfare that European officials believe are playing out
- 3:50Speaker 2: beyond the country of Ukraine. In recent months, EU officials
- 3:55Speaker 2: believe that Russia has been behind a string of sabotage cases.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Germany blamed Russia for an attempted drone attack at Leipzig
- 4:04Speaker 2: airport in Germany over the summer.
- 4:06Speaker 3: And I think, you know, as.
- 4:08Speaker 2: There are more reports of these things, we are, you know,
- 4:12Speaker 2: there's a debate, I'm sure, among European nations about how
- 4:17Speaker 2: to respond because you have some countries like Poland that
- 4:20Speaker 2: is really calling attention NATO to take a harder line.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Others like Germany are kind of urging more caution, saying,
- 4:27Speaker 2: you know, Europe doesn't want to get dragged into some
- 4:29Speaker 2: kind of situation where they, you know, they could provoke
- 4:32Speaker 2: another attack. But at the same time, I mean, you
- 4:35Speaker 2: have to remember what's been going on this week, where
- 4:38Speaker 2: Russia has been launching a number of drones very.
- 4:41Speaker 3: Very close to the Polish border.
- 4:42Speaker 2: And in some cases, drones are being found in countries
- 4:46Speaker 2: like Poland and in the Baltics. perhaps not sent there intentionally,
- 4:50Speaker 2: but drifting off course, because things like GPS jamming are
- 4:54Speaker 2: being used to try to impede the drones. And so
- 4:56Speaker 2: it really does create a very concerning situation because you
- 5:00Speaker 2: can imagine that it might not take much for one
- 5:04Speaker 2: of these attacks to turn deadly in one of these
- 5:06Speaker 2: countries bordering Ukraine.
- 5:08Speaker 1: No question about that. Briar, thank you very much.