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Patriots Unfiltered 10/8: The Silver Lining in Loss to Dolphins, Around the NFL · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: In other Miami news, the owner is selling I think
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  Speaker 3: eighteen percent of the team.
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  Speaker 4: Oh is it?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so interested.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to buy a TV. You think the
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  Speaker 3: Crafts would give me a piece of this team when
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  Speaker 3: I retire.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's not really that bad.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of calls, a lot of emails. People are excited.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's because of the picks, but I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 5: I'm disappointed that some people sort of questioned his loyalty.
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  Speaker 6: I de escalated. I'm tossing the grenade.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I noticed you came in here without your
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  Speaker 3: returning from practice when Evan is put on the spot
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 3: at ji Lets Stadium, another episode of your favorite podcast
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  Speaker 3: having to do with the New England Patriots. We're here
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  Speaker 3: for the next two hours. It's Evan, it's Paul, it's me,
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  Speaker 3: it's Deuce, it's Matt and Nabooth. And yeah, things aren't
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  Speaker 3: good in Patriots Nation. I can tell you that that
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  Speaker 3: was a that was a to say it's a winnable game,
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  Speaker 3: I think is an understatement, and they blew that one.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if historic fashion is the right word,
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  Speaker 3: but in ugly fashion. Uh. And then you know, things
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  Speaker 3: are happening and oh, it's just not good. And and
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  Speaker 3: then I can all I can say is at least
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  Speaker 3: we're not the Jet right.
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  Speaker 8: Well, we still have a head coach.
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  Speaker 3: I guess right. Some people would with the emails that
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  Speaker 3: we're getting, people are losing confident. Well, patience is a
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  Speaker 3: good word, and I would say confidence, Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean the hope, Like what again, I've said this
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. What were you really hoping
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  Speaker 3: for this this year? You know?
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  Speaker 5: So that's accurate to me in terms of the record
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  Speaker 5: you know, like one in four. It's probably not completely
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  Speaker 5: you know, unexpected by a lot of people, right, but
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  Speaker 5: I think you can expect more than the performance than
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  Speaker 5: they put on Sunday now, more than you know, fourteen penalties,
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  Speaker 5: twelve accepted, you know, not being able to muster more
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  Speaker 5: than ten points most, I mean, twelve point four points
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  Speaker 5: per game. I think you could have reasonably expected more
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  Speaker 5: than that. Yeah, some of those things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they dropped the ball at least not actually Remondre
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a fumboat for the first time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: but they dropped the ball.
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  Speaker 5: How you guys feel it almost kind of feels worse
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  Speaker 5: that they're really not turning the ball over and looking
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  Speaker 5: this bad.
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  Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, yeah, do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: I know that sounds silly, like why would you say
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  Speaker 5: it's it's worse they.
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  Speaker 3: Want excuse for losing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, jeez, if you could just hold out of
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  Speaker 5: the ball and not hand them points, we'd be winning
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  Speaker 5: these games. Well, we're not handing anyone any points. Well
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  Speaker 5: with turnovers, we're handing opportunities, right, but not with turnovers.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that first game made you think that
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  Speaker 8: maybe this is a team that you know, we of
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  Speaker 8: course talked about the sustainability of playing that way, but
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  Speaker 8: at least it felt like they're all on the same page.
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  Speaker 8: They're not going to make like the terrible mistakes, and
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  Speaker 8: you know, I think some of those things have really
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  Speaker 8: started to pop up the last couple of weeks where
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  Speaker 8: that's that's that's killing them. They can't they're not talented.
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  Speaker 3: They cannot afford it. I mean, to me, the one
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  Speaker 3: that I just keep going over is the twelve man
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  Speaker 3: penalty on the fourth kind of stuff, you know, just
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  Speaker 3: like you can't and I know what to give the
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  Speaker 3: other team a secondary.
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  Speaker 5: And it didn't cost them anything because Gonzales makes the
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  Speaker 5: couple of plays later, but it's still indicative of the
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  Speaker 5: things that they're doing that are so preventable.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it has.
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  Speaker 5: Nothing to do with talent, you know, going back to
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  Speaker 5: my Austin Hooper, you know, refrain from the training camp.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you want to be a track team, you
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  Speaker 5: want these are all preventable. Thing doesn't take talent to
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  Speaker 5: stay on side, to know you're supposed to be out
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  Speaker 5: there off off the field at that time. Whatever.
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  Speaker 8: Even the elis pass interference one. I mean, that was
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  Speaker 8: devastating and I mean, again, it's a third and long.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, even if the guy catches a situation attack.
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  Speaker 6: It seemed like there was a miscommunication of who had who.
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  Speaker 6: It's it's man to man coverage, and we don't know
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  Speaker 6: who's on which guy. You know, who's got the tight end,
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  Speaker 6: who's got the back, And so then he gets over
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  Speaker 6: there late and ton Ley throws right at him and
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  Speaker 6: he was just completely a mess on the play.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And and and you got Kean White,
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  Speaker 3: who's now giveth and taking away. It reminds me of
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  Speaker 3: that game that Zay Flowers had last year for the Ravens,
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  Speaker 3: where he had some great plays and then he had
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  Speaker 3: some bonehead plays that hurt the team and you known'
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  Speaker 3: you know, with Barmore out. Uh, you know, Keon White
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  Speaker 3: is like, we're he's been thrust into this position of
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  Speaker 3: having to make these plays. I don't think he's ready
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  Speaker 3: for that yet. And maybe he's just just going overboard
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  Speaker 3: and and and you know, I wouldn't say trying too hard,
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  Speaker 3: but just kind of not staying within himself. Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 8: So it's frustrating because I felt like, personally, looking back
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  Speaker 8: at it, I saw some strides of him maintaining pocket
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  Speaker 8: integrity and you know, not being a bull in the
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  Speaker 8: china shop. But again, it's it's just the inconsistency. It's
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  Speaker 8: the same thing across the board. One play it's this guy.
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  Speaker 8: The other play it's this guy. One play, the protection's okay.
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  Speaker 8: The next play Jacoby Brissett is missing a layup. You know,
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  Speaker 8: it's just around and around.
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  Speaker 5: You go, yeah, it's a good point yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So well, we do this all the time on Tuesdays,
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  Speaker 5: like we get to talk on the post game show.
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  Speaker 5: I don't anything nothing since Thursday.
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  Speaker 6: I would just say, you know, the biggest thing that
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  Speaker 6: I that I see right now is that there's guys,
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  Speaker 6: and we were talking about this a little bit off
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  Speaker 6: the air deuce, that they've lost the layer of top
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  Speaker 6: players here and there's guys that are in positions that
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  Speaker 6: are probably a little bit above where they should be
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  Speaker 6: on the pecking order.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 6: Keon White's a great example, like if Christian Barmore is
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  Speaker 6: inside with him, then now he's Robin instead of Batman.
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  Speaker 6: And you know Christian Barmore is the Batman. You know,
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  Speaker 6: David Andrews goes out and Nick Leverett allows the highest
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  Speaker 6: amount of pressure a center has ever allowed in the
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  Speaker 6: PFF era with ten quarterback pressures allowed by a center,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, I wrote an after further review that
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  Speaker 6: the guard play could have been better around him in
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  Speaker 6: some certain instances. It certainly wasn't all on Nick Levertt.
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  Speaker 6: But ten's ten, you know, that's that's the number next
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  Speaker 6: to his name. So you have guys that are just
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  Speaker 6: you know, that should be David Andrews, that there should
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  Speaker 6: be a Christian Barmer out there. You know, Christian Ellis
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  Speaker 6: is now playing man to man coverage on a running
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  Speaker 6: back on a big third day late in the game, Like,
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  Speaker 6: these are not things that they expected to be the
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  Speaker 6: case two months ago. Yeah, and now you're seeing some
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  Speaker 6: of those guys, you know, not be able to step
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  Speaker 6: into those shoes.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: You know, So when when that's the issue, when you've
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  Speaker 3: got injuries combined with you know, maybe a lack of
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  Speaker 3: talent compared to you know, some of the other teams
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  Speaker 3: you're playing, you're going to get that. So then you
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  Speaker 3: turn to the coaching and you say, okay, well, now
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  Speaker 3: they got to coach these guys up. They got to
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  Speaker 3: they have to at least try to eliminate the stuff
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  Speaker 3: that you can control. You can't control, you know, that's
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  Speaker 3: Elliot Wolfstrob. You can't control your roster. You can't control
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  Speaker 3: the other team's roster. But there's mistakes that maybe you
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  Speaker 3: can have a hand in helping your team not commit.
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  Speaker 3: And I think even then, let's be frank, I think
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  Speaker 3: the coaching is falling short too.
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  Speaker 5: No, I I think there's a really good points that
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  Speaker 5: you just made, because it's not like there were a
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  Speaker 5: lot of holding calls in the game on both teams.
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  Speaker 6: You can't really like.
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  Speaker 3: That's sometimes that's because they're better than you.
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  Speaker 5: That's not coaching right. Sometimes you just got because they're
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  Speaker 5: not teaching a technique that's going to lead to holding calls.
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  Speaker 5: Especially yeah, especially when both teams are getting called for
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  Speaker 5: a lot of holds. But you can prevent it, doesn't
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  Speaker 5: you know, like the ones that we're talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the too many men you know on a punt, inexcusable
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  Speaker 5: to me on a punt, especially not calling a timeout
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  Speaker 5: and recognize it. You can prevent twice now in five weeks,
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  Speaker 5: the same kind of scenario unfolds at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the first half where you're backed up inside your ten.
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  Speaker 5: The other team has timeouts. Your goal should be to
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  Speaker 5: make sure they use their timeouts. And then on top
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  Speaker 5: of that, you get eight yards on first down. And
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  Speaker 5: I was joking about this during the game, so you know,
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  Speaker 5: everybody remembers the sequence. The Dolphins bought a snap just
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  Speaker 5: before the two minute warning. They lose a field goal
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  Speaker 5: because no one's looking and they snap it. They lose
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  Speaker 5: twenty two yards. Huge break for the Patriots. Miami ends
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  Speaker 5: up having your punt up seven to three. The Patriots
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  Speaker 5: get the ball, and their goal should be this is
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  Speaker 5: the last possession of the half. Right, they get eight
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  Speaker 5: yards on first down. Right, eight yards on first down,
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  Speaker 5: so it's second and two. I joked to Evan and
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  Speaker 5: Mike at the time. I was like, well, this is
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  Speaker 5: the time they take a couple of shots down the sideline,
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  Speaker 5: Am I right?
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  Speaker 4: And they did.
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  Speaker 5: They took two deep shots down the right sideline, one
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  Speaker 5: of which was I think it was Polk. I keep saying,
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  Speaker 5: I meant to check that. I think Polk did a
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  Speaker 5: great job. It was preventing an interception, which you could
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  Speaker 5: have given them the ball back even quicker. But sure enough,
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  Speaker 5: Miami has the ball back at the end of the
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  Speaker 5: half on the Patriots forty four yard line because you
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  Speaker 5: threw two passes there when I'm sorry, the way the
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  Speaker 5: Patriots have run the ball in twenty twenty four, they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna take two downs and they're gonna pick up two
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  Speaker 5: yards if they just run the ball and make the
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  Speaker 5: other team use timeouts. They got so much yards on
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  Speaker 5: first down that Mike McDaniel wisely didn't call time out,
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  Speaker 5: So well, I'm not going to kick start there two
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  Speaker 5: minutes drillier like they're going to get a first down,
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  Speaker 5: so I'm not going to get the ball back. Like
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  Speaker 5: that's the same thing they did against Seattle. And Mayo
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  Speaker 5: recognized it against Seattle, and the same thing happened again,
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  Speaker 5: and he again said, yes, you're right, that's bad execution.
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  Speaker 3: Bob always hesitant to criticize play calling because I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what the hell i'm you know, but like that
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  Speaker 3: one seems to be universal. Like everybody who was looking
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  Speaker 3: at that game said what was going on?
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  Speaker 5: I'll be defensive of the play calling later in the show.
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  Speaker 5: Ye how about that for a previews?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you know, but that's what I did.
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  Speaker 5: I did a little research. It kind of annoyed me
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  Speaker 5: with some of the narratives. Yesterday, Alex man pelt.
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  Speaker 3: That that one seemed to be a.
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  Speaker 5: Repeat mistake, yeah, you know, and Girod said it was
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  Speaker 5: a mistake. He said it was a carbon I think
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  Speaker 5: he used the term carbon copy of the Seattle game.
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  Speaker 3: And so I don't know, like what was going through
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  Speaker 3: a VP's head, Like maybe they put ten guys in
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  Speaker 3: the box, all right, so what like this is a
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  Speaker 3: better call maybe then to throw it down the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, that's.
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  Speaker 5: Specially this second.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's weird to me if I was like,
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  Speaker 8: they seem so acutely aware of who they are sometimes
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  Speaker 8: when they talk to us, and then they get into
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  Speaker 8: situations like that and they like lose their minds of
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  Speaker 8: who they really are. It's like you tell us all
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  Speaker 8: the time, you want to run the ball, you want
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  Speaker 8: that to be your bread and butter. Well, and he's
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  Speaker 8: gotta have it moments, Why are we taking shots?
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  Speaker 3: Especially?
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  Speaker 8: You know, it's such ill time situational football.
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  Speaker 3: It's just I mean, I'd rather see Brissett charge ahead
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  Speaker 3: on second down for what yard? Now it's third and one?
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  Speaker 3: Do it again? Sure, you know, maybe it's posible.
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  Speaker 5: But I didn't even hate the idea of throwing the ball.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I would have run it, no question. But
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  Speaker 5: I said at the time, how.
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  Speaker 6: About like a little play.
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  Speaker 5: Action, a little dump into the flat to Hunter Henry,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like I'm gonna get five yards on this,
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  Speaker 5: He's probably gonna get out of bounds, and I, you know,
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  Speaker 5: now I get my first down and I can get going.
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  Speaker 5: I can if I want to. Yeah, taking a shot
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  Speaker 5: down the sideline for a team, especially that doesn't take
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  Speaker 5: a lot of shots down the field to me, maybe
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  Speaker 5: no sense at all.
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  Speaker 6: Mayo says, it's, you know, execution, And I don't know
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  Speaker 6: exactly what he means by that, like if he means.
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  Speaker 5: We got to do it better. And it's not necessarily
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  Speaker 5: to play.
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  Speaker 6: Because when you watch right so then you watch the
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  Speaker 6: second and third down play second down, Brissette just takes
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  Speaker 6: the shot. He doesn't even there's routes on the left
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  Speaker 6: hand side. He's not even looking over there. He's not
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  Speaker 6: going through the progression. He's just I got one on
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  Speaker 6: one here. I'm just gonna take a shot. Third down
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  Speaker 6: to me, he he opens to the wrong side of
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  Speaker 6: the field and Jalen Polk is open on third down
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  Speaker 6: going into the left sideline, and he's looking right, and
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  Speaker 6: so it's if you're the coaches, like, do you sit
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  Speaker 6: there and say, well, he just didn't execute the play right.
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  Speaker 6: You know, if you if his eyes are in the
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  Speaker 6: right place here, then Polk's got the first down. And
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  Speaker 6: we're not talking about how we watch the scenario at
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  Speaker 6: the end of the half. But you're putting players in
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  Speaker 6: a position where they have to do things that maybe
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  Speaker 6: they're not capable of doing. So that's that's the part
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  Speaker 6: of it from a coaching perspective that I had pushed
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  Speaker 6: back on, is that you know that Jacoby Brissett is
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  Speaker 6: not necessarily going to put the team on his back
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  Speaker 6: and drive the ball here in the two minute drill,
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  Speaker 6: So run the ball and if you gain eight more yards,
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  Speaker 6: now maybe you know, take a shot down the field.
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  Speaker 6: But you look at the end of the game. Do
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  Speaker 6: the coaches look at that and say, well, we were
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  Speaker 6: a heel away from that being a great play call. Now,
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  Speaker 6: other people have said, you ran the ball for straight
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  Speaker 6: times at the minute and twelve to go. When you're
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  Speaker 6: run first team, why you why are you throwing the ball? Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: a VP might say well, we had the exact right play.
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  Speaker 5: Call out as definitely not as critical of that as
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  Speaker 5: as some others have been. That's a great point, Like,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, when you call a play and get
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  Speaker 5: a guy open like that, I'm sorry, that's that's what
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  Speaker 5: that's what you're looking for, right, I'm not. I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to do it because I want to have to
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  Speaker 5: run the ball, like because that's my identity. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna save that because it's a little bit long winded.
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  Speaker 5: But the execution thing that you guys are talking about, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I understand that a coach is going to say, well,
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  Speaker 5: it's you just got to execute better. I get like
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  Speaker 5: every play is designed to work, Like there are no
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  Speaker 5: plays in the playbook that said, you know what, if
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  Speaker 5: all goes well here, we might be able to gain
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  Speaker 5: the yard. Like if everybody blocks any play properly, it
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  Speaker 5: should work right, should pick up you know, a modicum
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  Speaker 5: of yardage. But to Evan's point, you have to weigh
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  Speaker 5: those kinds of execution percentages with your personnel. What are
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  Speaker 5: your chances backed up inside your own ten yard line
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  Speaker 5: of this is going to be the time we're going
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  Speaker 5: to hit a deep ball right at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the half, Like for a team that is so like
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  Speaker 5: limited offensively, this is when we're going to go bombs away.
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  Speaker 5: Like the way the pluses and minuses.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, I get it.
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  Speaker 5: If they executed the play properly, maybe there's a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more room there, maybe they catch Miami by surprise. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not like a big situational play call guy like
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  Speaker 6: I kind of that's Paul's side of the street. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But the lack of scheme related conflict, like play action, motion,
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  Speaker 6: different formations, there's just not a lot of that that
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  Speaker 6: goes on in this offense. And when you look at
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  Speaker 6: a lot of the stats from next Gen Dallas, Cleveland,
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: they're Patriots, They're all in the same category and all
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: these things. It's all the same offense. It's the Mike
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: McCarthy offense that they're all running. And so the Patriots
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: right now are thirty first in the league and play
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: action rate. You don't have receivers that are that are
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: these great receivers. You know, if you had Jamar Chase
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: and t Higgins out there, then fine, just run routes
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: and get open and Joe Burrow's gonna get you the football,
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: they're thirty first in play action, they're twenty seventh in motion.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: I know that's been the big topic. They don't they're
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: a spread formation offense, so everything is like these isolated
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: routes across the field. And you know, Mayo said last
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: week when we were talking to him about the motion,
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: that team's motion as an advantage when you don't have
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: the personnel. And when he says that, I'm like, well,
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: you don't have the personnel.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that's absolutely true either, but
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: he did say that. I know he said that. But
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: like Miami has the personnel and they motion right, you know.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: So there's a lot of it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Like you said, it creates conflict, it can be a
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: tell for the quarter. But there's a lot of reasons.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of criticism in New York right now
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: with the Jets, who obviously, you know for those that
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: are listening didn't know, they just fired Robert Salah that
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: the same kinds of criticisms. Their offense Stacked doesn't use
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: any motion. Now it's all blamed on Rogers, which may
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: be true. Evidently Rogers doesn't like motion. I don't like it. No,
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: I don't care for it. I don't care for his comportment.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: As I told you, I don't taken away from me.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: And you know, but for whatever reason, those are similar
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: kind of criticisms of the Jets offense, which has been
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: just meh, hasn't been as bad as the Patriots, but
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: hasn't been great. And you know, they're, you know, gonna
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: move on from their head coach now because they're two
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: and three and obviously they had higher aspirations.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like we were talking about it before the
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: show started, they can still salvage their season.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I think it was a good move to do it
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: because there's a chance that you can sort of make
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: a move, put someone else in there, and maybe you
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: get a spark. I thought it was going to be
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: another week. I thought they would probably lose Monday night
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: to Buffalo and then two and four they would do it.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: But I think it's a good move. They can't wait
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: around with a forty whatever year is he forty forty
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: one forty. You can't just say, well, we'll get a
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: new coach in next year and we'll take another run.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: It's a very sm Your window is much smaller with
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: that team than.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Buffalo, probably, Yeah, that's what you hope with it, Like
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: you tell me, window close.
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: I know there's not a lot of Patriots positivity right now,
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: but that's what you hope. That you hope that the
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: Jets are going to fall off this year and that
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: you know, the window might start to open for the
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: Patriots a little bit. And I'll see what happens down
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: in Miami too, But they can, you know, find a
• 17:59
  Speaker 8: way to salvage yea.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: The only difference is they have a ton of young talent.
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: They do they do the quarterback.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: The quarterback is what they're missing.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, going back to our team, we're
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: in a tough spot. We've got Drawd Mayo, who is
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: this is the first time he's done this, but his
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: support cast is some guys who it's the first time
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: they're doing what they've done, they're doing as well, and
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: that that's a that's a tough combination, uh for Mayo
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: right now. So you wonder if he's getting the support
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: that he needs, especially during games, you know, in the
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: heat of the moment, Like you know, we talked about
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: the twelve guys, the twelve man you know, oh running
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: off on that play, like you would hope that Mayo
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: would see that in call time out, But Jeremy Springer
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: can call time out too, or somebody else can, you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be Mayo. The other play that
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about, uh it was uh you know, yeah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: no it was. It was a jail break up the
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: A gaps and it was right and just before the
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: snap Miami shifts, you know, and that's something where you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: an experienced quarterback should see that and either call out
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: of the play or call a different coverage, or if
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: you have to because you're in just the wrong play,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: call time out, you know, and nobody does anything. Nothing
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: was done, and it was overloaded to the sets right
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: and they just came and just he had one second
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: and he was like, somebody's got to see that and
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: do something. Nobody did anything.
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: And you wonder with all, you know, the changes that
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: they've implemented, with all the different people being on the radio,
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: and I mean, it's just it's are there too many
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: cooks in the kitchen right now and not one single
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: chef that's you know, being able to make those calls.
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: It's like that's the thing I'm a little worried about
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: right now, is like there's just everybody's got an opinion
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: in there, I'm sure and there, and but at a
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: certain point, like I feel like Girott has to put
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: his foot down and be like, this is what we
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: need to do. We need to run the ball at
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: the end of the first half. We need to run
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: the clock out, like, you know, he needs to come
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: down and start, you know. And I don't know, maybe
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: he is transfor I don't know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I put that particular that element. That's a head coach thing.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: A head coach needs to say, hey, Alex, we need
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: to make sure we're running the ball here, right, No,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: we need to make sure that this is the last
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: possession of the half. We're backed up inside our ten.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: We need to make sure that, above all else, this
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: is the last possession of the half. So you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: if you want to say specifically to run it, fine,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Bill used to do that all the time. Yeah, Josh,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: we're running it here. He would say it all the time. Situationally,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: they need to be better.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we're running it. You call it, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: like if it's power, if it's outside zone, like that's
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: that's your your way, that's your school, right, But we're
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: running it here. Just find a way to run the ball.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: And what's our plan on third down? Like what how
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: are we picking up this blitz? How are we getting
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: receivers open? Who's hot? You know? Where's what are we
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: doing to handle these blitzes that they're throwing our way
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: right now? Too many times on film it just looks
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: like there's no real plan of protection routes. You know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: they're they're blitzing the crap out of per set. You
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: know that that's that's the plan right now, Manta man coverage,
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Send everybody and get make him make a quick decision
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: with the ball. And you know he's just throwing like
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: a spot route over the middle of the field to
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: Austin Hooper, Like that's our best blitz beater is Austin
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Hooper running seven yards up the field and turning around
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: and hoping that Persett hits them. You know that that's
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: that's our You know, we have guys like Pop Douglas.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: You have guys like two running backs that can catch
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: the ball out of the backfield that if you get
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: them on the move somewhere against the blitz pressure like that,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: then they're gonna have some space in some room to
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: run and right now, it's just okay, we're gonna go
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: five wide, they're gonna send pressure and we're gonna throw
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: the bottle a spot over the middle of the field
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: and hopefully it works out. And yeah, it's just not working.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah that's not good enough.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've come to a crossroads, I think. Uh
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: and you know, there are rumors out there that maybe
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Mao makes the decision.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I thought your aunt sounded like he was ready. Yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: on Monday, I sort of fall in line. Normally, I
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: don't as you know, there's a lot of like media
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: narratives that I don't necessarily see the same way. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: I thought he sounded like a guy that was ready
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: to make it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, we talked about it on the postgame show. I
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: think I think it's time. I think you've got, you know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: a home game here and then you go to London,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: which is gonna be kind of a neutral atmosphere. Uh
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: so maybe two environments in which a rookie quarterback can
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: operate for the first time in terms of you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: being heard and getting signals out and all that stuff.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I think it's a good time to put him in.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I think if you wait any longer after these two games,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: you might as well wait tilap to the buy.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: And I would just say, you know, my two senses,
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's an ideal situation to put him in,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: So why.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Not right right now? There's never going to be oh,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: this is perfect, it's and and if and when they
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: put him in, it probably won't look that great. You know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I'm perfectly you know, expecting there to be a lot
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: of bumps and bruises and hiccups and roll.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: You know, we ask you him like, did you think
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: it's you know, probably more geared to Evan because I
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: know you watched the film.
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: I did grind it again yesterday?
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Did you grind it again? You know what, I'll open
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: it to you.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Good for you.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Do you feel like there were some signs, because this
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: is something that's been talked about a little bit the
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: last day and a half or so, that maybe there
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: were some plays that were to be made a little
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: a little bit more like they were a little closer,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: let's put it, that, a little closer to having a
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: semblance of an offense in this game than maybe in
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: the previous four.
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, personally, just I'll tell you what I saw.
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: I didn't feel that way so much, not saying I
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: didn't I did either last game. I felt more that
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: way in this one. I saw a little bit more
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: out of the offensive line. I thought a couple you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: the tackles specifically, Evan and I were talking about just
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: one play that stood out to me. It was the
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: first or second third down that they faced, but the
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: right tackle just threw his arms and the rusher just
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: died at the spot. I mean, it was like, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: I'm like, is that a strike system? Like did I
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: just see what this is what they've been talking about?
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: Because it was there was just a really impressive play
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: by it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: There was three guys on the ground on play.
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: Boom and the guy just drops in a way, and
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: I was like, well, where's the other guy? So that
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: to me stood out a little bit more as a positive.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I didn't generally you didn't necessarily see like no, not
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: not close, not just I would say I would agree, like,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I just thought it looked very similar production wise. Is
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: the other the other four One of the things people
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: have been saying, like, you know, they got this, they
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: get that. I mean, I I'd make fun of the
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: defense a lot for like like this this game a
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: lot of people say, you know, Girod said it, we
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: played defense good enough. I don't think you did. But
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: to me, no one ever takes the opponent into consideration.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Right the offensive line settled down after a tough start
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: because the other team didn't have any pass rushers available
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: in this game.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: They were out Now, Phillips.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Didn't play, Jubb didn't play.
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: That's that's another thing about the strike system. I was like, well,
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: I don't know who this guy even is.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Chopping Steeler looked pretty good.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: But one thing I didn't want to ask just run
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: past Evan Like what stood out to me a couple
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: of times and you kind of hinted at already were
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: on some of the blitzes, like who's the hot read
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: like who? Like because a couple of times there were
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: blitzes and there's no there's just no one to throw
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: to and they're sending five six guys and they're getting
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: there and it's like somebody's got to pop open quick,
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: and everybody's just running down the field just you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: there's no chance. That was one thing that stood out
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: to me a little bit.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that that happened too often, even the last third
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: down at the game where they have six, they're bringing six,
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: they're bringing the house, and everybody's running into the end zone.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: And I know it's third and ten, but like you
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: have two downs to get third and ten. So even
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: if you complete a five yard pass, like you still
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: are gonna go for it on fourth down anyways, but.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: It's kind of my point. Yeah, so like you get
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: the near if you're Miami, you see what happens on
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: second down. You're lucky that you didn't give up the
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: go ahead touchdown, right right, So what did they say, Well,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: we ain't letting that. We're not leaving this to chance again.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: We're gonna come at them with everything on third and
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: fourth down because we're gonna get there if we do,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: and they did on both plays. They got the ball
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: out real quick. I mean the fourth down play had
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: no shot.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there was pressure on all three of those final plays,
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: and we can get to the polk one in a second.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: But I thought in this game there were four or
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: five opportunities, which granted is is small, Like we're talking
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: about very small margins. You know, I just watched the
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Houston Texans offense against Buffalo last night, and they have
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: four or five opportunities a half. Not four or five
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: opportunities a game, but there's four or five opportunities where
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: a great throw would produce a big play for the Patriots.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: I did not think Brissette was a train wreck in
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: this game. I didn't think he was terrible. I agree
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: he was worth it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: He had a couple opportunities for Polk. I mean obviously
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: a touchdown, there was one earlier in corn first half. Yeah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Polk ran a nice route, got behind and the throw
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: was just overthrown, but not a lot. I didn't see
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: a lot of that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was definitely worse in San Francisco, And like
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: to Paul's point, it's a much better defense in the
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: forty nine ers and the Dolphins. But there's four or
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: five plays two to Polk. One was the corner route
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: early on that you're referencing. He had an out later
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: on in the game on third down that a great
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: quarterback and a great throw is a completion there. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: he also had a deep shot to Pop Douglas on
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: a play action play where he twisted the safety around
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: and he had a step on the safety and it
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: wasn't a great throw. And you just look at this offense,
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: and they can't afford to miss on those opportunities because
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: they don't present enough of them. So if you're wintling
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: it down to four or five plays, it's tough. It's
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: a tough, you know, grading system for Bersett. But at
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: the same time, does Drake May get in there and
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: does he hit that deep shot to pop Douglas, does
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: he hit that third down play under some pressure. Well,
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: we don't know until he gets out there and we
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: see it. But when I heard Girod talk about it,
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: that's what it is. It's not like he threw three
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: picks and two pick sixes and was an absolute mess
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: on Sunday. It's that there. It's just not good enough.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Like it's just not good And I'm not saying like
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: if May comes in, it's all of a sudden going
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: to be good enough and they're gonna win these games.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I want him in just to start the process of
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: learning how to play quarterback in the NFL. I don't
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: think that. I don't I'm not. I don't know, Like
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: if that throw to Poke at the end, if if
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: it's lower and Poke scores the touchdown, I maybe.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: He sails it further off his head.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: And I want him to start learning how to play quarterback.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: And he played exactly the same as Prissette has played
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: for the most part. I mean, you know, obviously it
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: would look different because he has a different skill set,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: but the similar production. I would still feel better about it,
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: right because I'm getting the guys some development time, some experience,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: and I'm assuming he's going to get better. You know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I have immense respect for what Prissette has done in
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: the first five weeks, so I know it probably doesn't
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: sound that way.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: I have a lot of respect.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Like some of the throws he made in the fourth
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: quarter the other day while getting popped, we're pretty act.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: The throw that he made to Kaishan Boudy on like
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: the true last drive of the game.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: He breaks I didn't even see that he breaks down.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: He breaks out of two sacks and then throws off
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: platform across the field on the move to a bullet
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: to Kaishan Boody. Like that's a great throw, Like that's
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: a big time throw. But the throw to the polk
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: on the potential game winner is just it's just too high,
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: Like it throw is too high, just a little too high.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: And those are the margins for them right now, you
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: know that that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: That it was really he didn't have to get that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: Over well, so you know we thought that so on
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: when who gave up some pressure on the inside on
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: the play, and like my one critique of that was
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: just that's your eighteen million dollar a year guard, you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: he he he draws, he draws the one on one
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: because he's the.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: Guy, and hey, there's any any sort of coverage in
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: front that he had.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: But it's a it's a classic Tampa two hole shot.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: Like right, you know, Tampa two lineback course. So the
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: linebackers carrying the vertical three up his three. Right, when
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: three guys go vertical, the linebacker carries the vertical, the
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: two safeties are in the split field, and he's splitting
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: the two safeties up the middle. What you want to
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: do is put the ball right over the guy's head,
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: like right, like put it right over the linebackers because
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: he's his back is to the quarterback, so he can't
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: see the ball coming. So all you gotta do is
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: just zing it right over his head and then Polk
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: doesn't have to to jump. Yeah, and that's the difference,
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: you know, do I does Drake may make that throw.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but but at least I want him
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: in there trying, yeah, right, like and learn from it.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: If he threw that same throw into the third row,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: I would still feel better.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: But I am dead.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I totally get what you're saying with you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: I just think with May when he gets in, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: I think it's good that we're having a conversation now
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: about you know, before it happens, of like reasonably, what's
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: the expectations, because there probably are some fans out there
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: that expect that it will be better, and I don't
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: know necessarily to be better. I just want to see flashes,
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: you know, I want to see what we saw this summer,
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: which was all right, yeah he airmailed that one, like you,
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: there's gonna be some airmails like that's kind of what
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: he did in college a little bit too. But there's
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: also just that arm and that willingness to throw the
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: ball down the field and some of these plays where
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: some of them it's a guy has a half a
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: step and looking on you know, when we look back
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: at it, it doesn't look like he missed the play. But
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: for May, if that might be a misplay, what would.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: You say is the most think the thing that you've
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: been most impressed about with Brissett through the five games toughness, right,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: So that perfect. Finally I asked her, I had no question,
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: and he got it right.
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: I always get scared when you ask me a question like
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: what road are you trying to watch me that ball?
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to mount Cooks with you, but I
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: would totally agree that like his ability to take hits
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: and keep getting up in his toughness. So I also
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: think that's a really valuable thing. And I don't want
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Drake May to get hurt. I've said this a million times,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: but I think it's great that you're going to find
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: out a little bit about the toughness of your your
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: presumptive franchise quarterback. Yeah, you know that's why I You know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: if I would grad, i'd make I'd make the move.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: If it's not this week, it would be in London.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: It's got to be soon.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I'm ready.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I just think the biggest thing too, is, you
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: know I mentioned earlier that they're playing they're seeing a
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: ton of man coverage and they're seeing a ton of
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: blitz pressure. No team in the league sees more man
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: coverage than the Patriots.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Right now.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because they just know the outside receivers are not special,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: so they're not going to win against man to man consistently.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: But the difference is is that if you put Drake
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: in there, he can run.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: So like now, if you're gonna blitz him and then
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: you're gonna be man to man everywhere. If you don't
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: have a spy or something like that accounting for the coquarterback,
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: then he's gonna get outside the pocket and he's gonna
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: pick up the first down with his legs, or he's
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: gonna get out and he's gonna improvise and he's gonna
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: throw on the move. And I understand people want him
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: to play quarterback from the pocket, but that is what
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: this offense needs right now, is somebody to elevate that element.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Something extra to make up for the fact that they
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: can't win all of these one on one messages all
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: the time.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: And we see it every week in almost every game.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Quarterbacks have to run every once in a while, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: when they do, it's a backbreaker for the defense. It's
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: you know, they got everybody covered down downfield, the pocket's
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: broken up, and then the quarterback runs for fifteen yards.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: You need to have a couple of those in a game.
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: Did you see any of those Mahome scrambles last night?
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: Like you see the one d.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: The play was an incomplete pass. But and this is
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: where I know that, you know, I know, I know
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: the Patriots fans love these when when as as as
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: TJ said last night, I'm so sick of them glazing.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: I just started laughing that just looking us like I'm
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: not that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Language.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: There was a play in the red zone where he
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: started scrambling around and he just did a like a
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: complete spin spin spin around it. There was no one there,
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: and I was just like like, what was that?
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: Unbelievable?
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: But there was another play around midfield where you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: his pockets broken, you know broken, contained makes a guy
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: miss in the backfield and he's not even running, but
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: he's got such field awareness and all of a sudden
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: and then he just runs out of bound just before
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: the guy gets to him, and he's got like twelve
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: thirteen yards.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the play that he made, the when he dove
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: for the pylon, he out to two tackles at once.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: I was just like, holy crap. I didn't know he
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: was that quick, you know, Like that was impressive, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: like not to put it all on Drake May that
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: he's got to do those kinds of things. But he
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: can do those kinds of things. And then if you
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: get outside the pocket and we're man to man across
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: the board, maybe Pop Douglas pops free late in the down,
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Maybe Polk gets opened down in the field, and now
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: it's a big play, you know, we're talking about maybe
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Juju smith Hussey.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty yards or whatever he got.
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: I was so mad about that.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: But that dropped touchdown for a pick.
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: That's oh yeah, that's so. That's why I wake up
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: this morning. I didn't watch all the game enough. But
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: then I see do we make a mistake letting? And
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: I'm like, I refuse to ever get off of the
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: hill that juju was washed here.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: It would only be a mistake if Mahomes was our quarter.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: But every catch he had, He's.
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: Like, why no one even near him? And then of
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: course I'm like, oh, wait, what's this. Oh he fumbled
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: it off his hands in the end zone into the
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: other game. That's the juju we saw and he turned what.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Was I mean, I don't know how much of the
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: game you saw. That was an absolute blowout last night.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, like it was not competitive y. Yeah, And
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: that play made the game somewhat competitive on the scoreboard
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, like they're going in to make
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: a twenty three to seven. He drops the touchdown and
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: basically leads to a touchdown the other way. It's all
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, it's sixteen thirteen in a game that
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Like the Chiefs felt like they were
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: ahead by four scores.
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: They doubled up them in yards time of possession.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was not a competitive game.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: It's the weird part to me that with May is
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: like I never thought with Brissette, like I for some reason,
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: I just thought he'd be able to take the easy
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: stuff and like that seems a struggle to me. And
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: I'm surprised. And I know that it's probably asking a
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: lot for Drake me to come in and process as
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: quickly as gonna need to hit those quick shots. But
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: I never thought that. That's what my biggest complaint with
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: Jacoby Brissett would be, Like he can't take the layups,
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: Like the layups that are there.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of it. I'm not gonna like
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: I'm not in I don't know what they're coaching them
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: to do when it comes to pre snapper reeds and
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: things like that. But if you're going to be a
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: quarterback that's a little bit limited in terms of his
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: physical tools, then you gotta dominate mentally, Like you gotta
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: be able to come to the line of scrimmage, know
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: where your numbers are, know where the line is, you
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: know where's the pressure coming from, how are we blocking this,
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Where am I going with the ball? And just all
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: of that just right now just doesn't seem to be clicking.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Get it out.
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's maybe my biggest question with Drake is
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: would he be able to get it out quick? When
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: he gets it? You know, is going to be or
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: is it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Going to be like it's all going to be? Yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: you know, this is where we have to be watching.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: How is he processing, what decisions is he making? How
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: is he under pressure? That's what it's all about.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: And that should be the only thing for or against
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: him playing those things.
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: The speed of the game, and compared to some of
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: the performances of the other rookie quarterbacks who have all
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: you know, had some success but have had ups and downs.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: Two in these few first.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: And I would hope that we're not doing that at all.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: I would hope that the coaches don't really care what's
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: going on in those other three places because they're not here.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: I would hope that it's just about what Fred just
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: talked about, like how quickly is he processing here?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: And here's something I'm anxious about. We talked about Drawed Mayo,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: first year head coach, having the support that he needs.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Does Mayo have the support he needs? You know, is
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: at this point Alex van Pelt so caught up in
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: how he's calling the game and getting ready, you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: the game plan that May's not getting the attention, and
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and you know, what's Ben mcadoo's role, Like, how is
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: he supporting Tissa McCartney is a young guy, Like, I
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: don't think that he can be that much of a support. So, like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: is what support is may getting in this critical time?
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it's great, I just don't know.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I'm anxious about it. I'm anxious.
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: I mean the reps thing was a little bit of
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: a glimpse of, you know, prioritizing his development even though
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: he's still the backup quarterback. I would just hope that
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: when they do make the switch Jacoby Brissett. I mean,
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: now everybody's focused on getting the kid ready, preparing him,
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: making sure he's you know, it's not like Paul said,
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: it's it's gonna be dicey no matter when he gets
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: in there for a variety of reasons. But you just
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: you want to give him all the tools you can.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Good luck kid, all right, TPX heutline is eight five
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: to five past five hundred, eight five five past five hundred.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Let's get to some of the listeners and emailers and
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: callers and and all that good stuff. We'll start with
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Patty and Agawam. What's up Patty?
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: Hey, Patty.
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: So I've sent Tom down since I woke up this
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: morning because I was pretty heated. I was gonna go
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: on a rant. But what basically all boils down to
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: is Jacoby's a backup quarterback. We all know that I
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: said before you know I said leading up to the game.
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: I said in the pregame show, I thought the past
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: we're gonna lose. And my reason was you can't consistently
• 39:25
  Speaker 9: throw for as a team one hundred and fifty yards
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: or less every game and expect to win.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, it didn't happen. Fred, No, I know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: but but go ahead and you.
• 39:39
  Speaker 9: Could say he wasn't a train wreck. But I don't know.
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: To me, it's just I like, like you like you
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: guys said, like I want to see if the kid
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: can play, put him in there, and Paul like, I'm
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: with you, like, I don't know. I don't know if
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: the Mario Douglas is a good player. I don't know
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: if Jalm Polk is a good player, because at this
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: point we have a backup quarterback on to him and
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: I don't I'm not saying the rookie is going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: be any better, but at least give him a chance
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: to be better. And I'll say this, like, if we
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: might have a chance to win maybe three games for
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: the rest of the year, if Drake may plays, if
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: if Jacobe's the starter for the rest of the game,
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: for the rest of the season, I mean, we might
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: have seen the one game that we won all year.
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: But that's that's kind of where I'm at right now.
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: I'm not gonna you know, I'm gonna watch every game
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: so I can just do this, you know, pretty much
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: like after that that touchdown that wasn't and it wasn't
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: a touchdown to anybody that's gonna call up and complain
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: and say they should change to the rule. That's always
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: been the rule.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't think we didn't get any
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: calls like that in the post game, which if we're
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: going to get him that half his.
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: Toes and lifts his feet up and his butt hits
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: out of bounds, it's a touchdown. Hit the ground exactly.
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: It's just like but I just I'm sorry, go ahead, Paul, Now, I.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: Was just gonna say, it's just like the opening game
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: of the NFL season, the kickoff Baltimore and Kansas City,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Isaiah likely catches it pass at the end of the game,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: he has one foot in bounds. The second foot the
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: heel comes down and comes all the way down, and
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: then his toe ever.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: So slightly hit the white right.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: That's only one foot in bound.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are under the mistaken impression that
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: a toe tap ends the play. It doesn't end the play, no,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Usually toe taps are on the sideline and a guy's
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: leaning over the sideline toes you know, toes first and
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: he tumbles out of bound.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Right right, and go ahead, Patty.
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: I was gonna say, and like, if you look at
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: the defense we we I think we have studs on
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: defense in my opinion, that's just my opinion. Gonzales is
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: a stud. You know, God willing he comes back healthy.
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: I think Briston Marmore is a stud. I know I'm
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: throwing some caveats, but like legal problems with stan thing,
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: Jabil Peppers, in my opinion, is a stud. And we
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: got good guys. You know, there are no studs on offense,
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: or at least we don't know if we have any
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: studs on offense. If we if Drake May turns out
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: to be a stud, that is a huge building block.
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: Let's get the friggin process started.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's where guys. All right, thanks Patty. Patty woke up.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: He was ready to go. You know, he's not a rant.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Cameron in North Carolina. I hate Cameron.
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: Hey, guys. I was listening to the Post and.
• 42:35
  Speaker 10: A couple of things that really stood out to me
• 42:38
  Speaker 10: was with Jacoby's interview and Remandre's interview. And I feel
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: like there was a lot of subtle shots taken, but Jacoby,
• 42:46
  Speaker 10: he just kept harping on fundamentals fundamentals that we do
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: fundamentals this and that, and then Remandre was really hopping
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: on that the play that's called should be the play.
• 42:56
  Speaker 10: It is what it is, and we need to just
• 42:58
  Speaker 10: run the play. Am I looking too much into that?
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: Or did you guys also know that something with that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Well with the Jacoby in the front of metals, that
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: was the message in the locker room for from Mayo.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: So I'm sure penalties. Yeah, So like I think he
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: said we take one step forward and like twenty steps back.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what Mayo was saying. So I think
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Brissette was just saying what Mayo said the Remondre one.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know what do you guys?
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: I was not aware of that comment. Have we taking
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: that as a shot at maybe some of his teammates
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: who are freelancing on offense? Like I know we had
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: defense freelancing, you know, accusations from Godschaw the week before.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: Is that what that means? I didn't know.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: I'm not familiar with the steam.
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: I mean I was in there like three or four
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: different times about just like you know, he touched on it,
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: you know, like the play call of the play call.
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: It is what it is we need to just run
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: the play that's called.
• 43:46
  Speaker 10: And he said it like two or three different times.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: So it sounds to me like people were complaining that
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: they didn't run the ball up.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I was going to.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: And he's saying, it doesn't matter what the play call is,
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: it's on us. So he's not I would say, he's
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: not calling out his teammates they were at all. I
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: think he's saying, what's on us to execute the play.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so they ran the ball well in this game.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: They averaged almost eight yards of carry and they ran
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: it with the running backs eighteen times.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Right, So now I'm going to get to this.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: This is what I I've talked about.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: So all right, the whole thanks to well, they didn't
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: run the ball enough and you know, they got way
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: out of whack and like, yeah, I mean I think,
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: and I think Evan said it earlier. There's always like
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: an individual play you could say, like, well, why didn't
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: they run it there? And I certainly think it's a
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: fair second guess, second guess on first and first and
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: ten from the twelve at the end of the game,
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: with that much time left and all three timeouts, you
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: certainly had plenty of time to run the ball if
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: you wanted to. Okay, I have to be honest, and
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be completely forthcoming. Watching the game and
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: watching four straight passes, I did not even blink. I
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: didn't blink at all. I expected them to throw the
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: ball into the end zone four times, and they did.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: It didn't bother me at all. If they had run
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: the ball wouldn't have bothered me either, because of what
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: I just said. They had plenty of time. They threw
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: the ball thirty four times, they ran it nineteen times.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: You do realize they were looking and one of the
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: narrators was in a game they were leading the whole way. Okay, yes,
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: they were leading the game the whole way until the
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: last two times they had the ball, in which case,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: the last seventeen plays of the game they threw it
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: fourteen times.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: That's where it got out of whack.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Otherwise in the game it was basically fifty to fifty,
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: which in the NFL is rare.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a great example of you can't just look
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: at the box score after the game and make conclusions.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: You have to see it in contact.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: They had a fourteen play drive that got down to
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: the twelve yard line. That was eleven passes in three runs.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: And then the last time they got the ball, obviously
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: they threw it. You know, it was desperation. They threw
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: it all three times. So I believe listen, I might
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: be off by a play or I might have counted
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: a penalty, and I believe it was fourteen into the
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: last seventeen plays they threw the ball. So if you
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: take away fourteen pass attempts, it goes from thirty four
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: to twenty.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: Right, Is that outrageous?
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: They're losing fifteen to ten with four minutes left in
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: the game. Are they supposed to just say, you know what,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: let's go three yards with the call to dust and
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: see if we can go seventy yards?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: Like they were.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Losing at the end of the game, that's why they'd started.
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: Throwing the ball.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Like I absolutely think when you average, as Evan just said,
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: your two running backs averaged over seven yards of carry,
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: I believe they set a franchise record for average per
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: carry for an entire game. They ran the ball exceptionally well.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: And it wasn't just believe me, you guys know, I
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: pick on these things. It wasn't just thirty three yard
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: run for Stevenson, twenty four yard run for Gibson. Take
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: those out, they still had healthy averages, both of them
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: over five yards of carry without the big plays. So
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: they ran the ball really well in this game, and
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: I would not argue that maybe they should have run
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: it a little bit more.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: But this hole, like they did it backwards.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: Mike, which I heard yesterday from my boys, right like,
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: I just did they watch the game and did they
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: think that it was out of whack all game? And
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: if you go back and you look when they stopped
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: running the ball, there is almost always a good reason.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: If you see it, it's run, run, run, holding call
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: first and twenty Now we're behind the chains, right, yeah,
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: because they had a ton of holding calls in that game,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: which by the way, wiped out a lot of runs
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: because a lot of the holding calls were on runs,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: you know. And how many holes did we have five?
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: I think it was seven total in the game between
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: the two teams.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: So four or five on the Patriots, and some of
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: those were runs, they weren't just I know one at
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: least was on a pass. But you know, they had
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: like a run around the end by Gibson, I think
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: toward the end of the game that got called back
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: for a hold. So now it's first and twenty, you know,
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: with you know, inside the too minute warning. Should we
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: see if we can run three times and get twenty yards?
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: Like?
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: This is all I'm saying is I think it's too
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: easy to just blame it all on Alex van Peltz.
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: I don't think that he called a horrific game in
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: this game. I just don't think, you know, there were
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: things that I would nitpick, because that's what I do.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: But I don't think that they didn't run the ball
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: like they ran the ball exceptionally well in that game.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: You want to run it a few more times, fine.
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: But what's a good example for what happens when you
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: run rights? That's your example of a.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Oh and by the way, the Dolphins had one hundred
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: and ninety three yards rushing and they didn't score either.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: I just think the part that I just can't wrap
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: my head around is how they're not productive in the
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: play action game. It just it doesn't compute that they're
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: a good running team and these teams are stacking the
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: box and they're putting you know, seven eight guys in
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: the box all the time because they're a good running
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: team and they just generate no yards off of play action,
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: like they had twenty three yards off of four play
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: action dropbacks in this game, twenty three Like they should
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: be a prolific play action passing team, you would think,
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: and they just can't get that element of their offense going.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: So now you don't have like the yin and the
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: yang of the run games, so can you have, Like.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: I'm curious as to what you think the reason why
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: they haven't been able to hit more of those plays.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Is it just because or is it too simplistic for
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: simpleton like me to say when they're taking those shots
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: with play action, it's still predominantly man coverage, and they're
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: able to cover the guys well enough that they're not
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: getting Amari Cooper, you know, for a sixty yard touchdown
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: like Cleveland would, or David Nujoku, you know, winning his
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: matchup down the seam, you know, is different than Austin Hooper,
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: as you said, running an eight yard come back.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of that and Jacoby Brissett.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: And yeah, the line player. Yeah, no, there are some
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: man coverage opportunities where they run play action I think
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: of not in this game necessarily, but last week in
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: San Francis, they put six offensive linemen on the field
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: and they called one shot play play action, and it
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: was man to man coverage. And when you play man like,
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: those guys are not worried about the run, so it's
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: not really as much conflict. You're trying to that's what
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: you're trying to. You're trying to dial it up against zone.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: They did in this game have a couple of split
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: safety zone shots where I didn't love the timing of
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: the play like that to me is like, okay, if
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: you see the two deep safeties like check back into
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: a run, Like, why are you calling play action into
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: a split safety coverage. That's not what you're looking for.
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: You're looking for the single high safety. So that happens sometimes,
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: and then they miss some opportunities down the field too.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: All right, TPS outline eight five five past five hundred.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Let's go to James and Idaho. What's up?
• 50:47
  Speaker 12: James, Hi, thank you for your content.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
• 50:53
  Speaker 12: So I have been listening. My question it's sort of expanded.
• 50:56
  Speaker 12: I'll try to keep this brief. I guess could you
• 51:01
  Speaker 12: or would you tell us about quarterback coaching. So the
• 51:06
  Speaker 12: question that was just asked is why can't we hit
• 51:09
  Speaker 12: some of those play action playoffs and passes? And my
• 51:14
  Speaker 12: thoughts on Jakoby is that I think he's the perfect
• 51:16
  Speaker 12: guy for where we are. He's a mile better than
• 51:20
  Speaker 12: Cam Newton or mac Jones. But he looks like he
• 51:25
  Speaker 12: telegraphs all this passes. His head goes to one side
• 51:28
  Speaker 12: of the field and it doesn't move, And I want
• 51:33
  Speaker 12: to know if he can be coached to look at
• 51:39
  Speaker 12: if he can go through his reach fast or whatever
• 51:42
  Speaker 12: it is. It just looks like, you know where he's
• 51:44
  Speaker 12: trying to go with the ball every time, and then
• 51:46
  Speaker 12: it ends up that they're covered, and then he's trying
• 51:49
  Speaker 12: to force the ball in somewhere else and he's run
• 51:51
  Speaker 12: out of time because the offensive line is that great.
• 51:57
  Speaker 12: What I really want to know is about Drake May
• 52:00
  Speaker 12: because every time they showed Drake, he's on the sideline,
• 52:05
  Speaker 12: standing by himself and playing with his earpiece or something,
• 52:11
  Speaker 12: and I'm wondering why he's not on watching the game.
• 52:16
  Speaker 12: You know, Jacoby is not a bad quarterback, He's not
• 52:19
  Speaker 12: one of the greats, obviously, but why isn't Drake May
• 52:23
  Speaker 12: studying the Kobe.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: All right, what I got it, James, That's exactly what
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: he's doing.
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah. So he stands on the sideline behind the offense,
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: like where a play caller would stand, and he's playing
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: quarterback with the earpiece in his head so he's hearing
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: the call. And then he's literally standing right behind Jacoby
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: but obviously to the side, and he's going through the
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: motions of what he would be doing pre m post snap.
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: So he's he's literally doing exactly what James was describing.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. No, Yeah, he's paying
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: attention and he's doing what he's being told to do.
• 53:02
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a big part of it too. You
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: know some of the conversations that I've had with him is,
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: you know, he's not the quarterback, so like he doesn't
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: want to get in Jacoby and at Alex vand Pelt's
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: way on game day. You know, it's it's not I
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: know people are saying all wise and he's sitting there,
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: you know, as they're going through the stills and stuff
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: like that, it's because it's their show, Like they're working
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: with Jacoby. They're not there to to work with him.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: Necessarily in that moment, you know. So he's doing exactly
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: what he's told.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dcent Baltimore, Hey d.
• 53:36
  Speaker 14: Hello, Hey, yea, how you guys are doing good?
• 53:42
  Speaker 15: But we all agree we want to see Drake may
• 53:44
  Speaker 15: play at one point.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I want to see him play, right now.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 53:49
  Speaker 15: Yeah, but I don't know how good he had been.
• 53:51
  Speaker 15: His offense that Alason Pelp is calling, it's too plain,
• 53:55
  Speaker 15: it ain't creative at all. It doesn't make the defense
• 53:58
  Speaker 15: break at all. He just come on there and it's
• 54:00
  Speaker 15: just straight to the point. They don't make the defense think.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but you're you're could be one hundred percent right.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: But for me, that's no reason not to start playing
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: them and maybe they can evolve a.
• 54:13
  Speaker 15: I'm saying for Drink, I would like for him to play,
• 54:15
  Speaker 15: but I don't know how it will be good. I
• 54:17
  Speaker 15: don't think he know how to coach this this type
• 54:19
  Speaker 15: of quarterback.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I think his offense.
• 54:23
  Speaker 15: Is like it's outdated, it ain't creative, and it don't
• 54:25
  Speaker 15: use no motion. Most of the teams that use the
• 54:28
  Speaker 15: motion is the highest score officers in the league. Yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 15: so how you not using no motion motion makes the defense.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Think I'm hoping. I'm hoping that the only reason it
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: is the way you say it is right now is
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: because Brissett's limited and once May gets in there, they'll
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: cater a little bit to his talents a little bit more.
• 54:48
  Speaker 15: But we'll say this new style offense, I think he's
• 54:51
  Speaker 15: stuck in his ways and make Drake May play the
• 54:53
  Speaker 15: way he wanted the players that it was working for him.
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not as worried about that piece. But you
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: know the way that De's describing creativity, I mean, Dallas
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: and Cleveland do the exact same thing. So like this
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: coaching tree just doesn't believe in motion in the way
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: that Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan and uh, those guys
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: believe in motion. And I don't necessarily agree with it either,
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: but that's their philosophy. They motion with the purpose. They
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: don't motion as window dressing. They're not just gonna send
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: a guy across the formation just to as eye candy
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: for the defense. If they're motioning, it's because there's a
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: reason behind why they think it's gonna help the play operate.
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: And a lot of these guys that motion as much
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: as you know the Rams, the Dolphins, like those teams,
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: they're just motioning sometimes just to as window dressing like.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: So so when Kansas City runs in a circle like that,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: and then that's not what eye candy, I'm only kidding waste.
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: The time, I mean before end looks.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: Last night brought back bad memories of the Patriots when
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: had the four tight ends with the Scott Chandler era.
• 56:03
  Speaker 16: There's a Chandler, Yeah, And it is unbelievable the amount
• 56:09
  Speaker 16: or the how few like tight window throws Mahomes has
• 56:13
  Speaker 16: to make because dudes are just wide open down the field.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: It's uncann In particular last night, I thought it was
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: amazing with how many times that happens, given you know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: another personnel loss and then suddenly that's probably was the
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: best offensive game of the year.
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: How is Travis Kelsey still so open in the middle
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: of the field.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean remember back to the early knots when
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Peyton Manning was our biggest rival, and you know, games
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: that the Patriots were, you know, Marvin Harris would be
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: wide open. It's like, how is that? How is that possible?
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Julian Edelman, you know it's because of Peyton Manning. Like
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: they're so afraid and they're like, you know.
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: I don't know, third and fifteen might want to cover
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: an Edelman.
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: It is the super Bowl.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, three in a row.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Kendall's in North Carolina. Hate Kendall.
• 57:05
  Speaker 15: Hey, what's going on?
• 57:05
  Speaker 12: Guy Ken?
• 57:08
  Speaker 15: Hey?
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: I want to know how many peaks I think we
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: would have total in the draft of April, and which
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: I think we can get for.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: It's kind of muffled. They can't hear.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: Where could they get for Tae Kwon Thornton. Maybe a
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: conditional Day.
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: Three picky, I would like just one snap.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah he's not I mean he's I've sort of like
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: felt like I kind of championed his cause a little
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: bit this summer. I thought he had another good training camp.
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: I was, I was cautious.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: I wasn't all in. But he's just not really playing
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: a role. The draft.
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: I think they got about ten right now.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Do they?
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: I haven't low.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's the only one I knew of.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: I haven't in my notes.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: I would think that the best they're going to get
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: for Taekwon Thwton is a conditional seventh round pick. If
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: he ends up staying on a team's roster, then maybe it.
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: Seems like Booty has you know, I mean I thought
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: Booty was was probably a little bit better than him,
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: maybe a little bit more consistent, But it seems like
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: Booty surpassed him. And now it's born Polk and Douglas.
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: That's probably the main trio, and you'll see a smattering
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: of Booty in there. But I don't I don't know
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: if Thornton, I mean, he might really be on the
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: way out.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you have two other receivers that run
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: the inactive list. Yeah, you know, you know, Osborne for
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: injury and Baker obviously a healthy scratch. But I just
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: don't know if there's a role here for Thornton that
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: you know, we should mention luck On fora threw that
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: out there late last week that the Patriots have, you know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: willing to take offers calls on on Thornton. That to
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: me is usually the precursor to a release. I wouldn't
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: be surprised. You know, they have a lot of receivers
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: that aren't playing, and I don't know how many roster
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: spots you can afford to do that with.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: So I was waiting for an email like this, and
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: here it is. Jake writes, in can we get a
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: wrap from Evan and Fred? And what happened last week?
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered? No, No, I think it's fair. I was
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: waiting for somebody to ask, and I don't know. If
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Evan you want to go first, I'm willing to go first,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: but go ahead.
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: I'll let you go first.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I mean my part of that is
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: after Evan's comments, Uh, you know, I felt that it
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: was just so egregiously inaccurate that I scrubbed it. I
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: scrubbed it from the on demand version. And that was
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: a bad move by me. I shouldn't have done that.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: It was out there, everybody was talking about it.
• 59:48
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: My instinct was I just didn't want it living on
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: our platforms. But I made it worse by by scrubbing
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: it and created a second story that was all on me.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: That was no one telling us to do that, And
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: that's that's what That's what pissed me off the most
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: about what I did is that other people were getting
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: blamed for it. Uh. And I'm the one that did that.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: I you know, Paul, you know, we've never been told, never,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: not once by anyone on the team to take something
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: down or to not write this or to not say that.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Have they been pissed at what we've done. Absolutely, we've
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: gotten in trouble of those times. Yeah, but we've never
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: been censored.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 15: Uh.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: That was all on me that I did that, and uh,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: you know it was a bad move, so meacopa, yep.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean obviously, I I feel like what I
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: said on the Sports of is what I would say now. Uh,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: you know, I misspoke, Like I misspoke, I used a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: word now was way over the top, and exaggeration of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: what was going on got carried away in a in
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: a debate. I think the one thing that I would
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: just say for myself to get off my chest a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: little bit, is just I wasn't reporting anything like that
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: was my opinion of the situation. I feel like it
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: got a little bit misconstrued that I was reporting on
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: that we.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Don't Well, that's why we have to be careful, right
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: and I understand what a team.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: I understand it's a gray area, and that's why I
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: wanted to kind of put that out there. You know,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: that's that's not what we do. Like, we don't break
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: news here, we don't report news here. So that wasn't
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: what I was doing. But I obviously got carried away
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: and used a word that I can't even say anymore
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: because it's I remember ever again, I remember my dictionary.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: But I apologize to obviously to Fred and to you guys,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: and but most importantly I to girod in in Jacoby,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: most importantly, because that was obviously totally wrong of me
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: to do.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: Can I just throw it was? It was a tough weekend,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: it was, and we it's it's a reflection of all
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: of us, even though like in this particular case it
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: didn't really have much to do with with me and Mike.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: We're still all part of one team here. Content I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: would just say number one, I'm sure that a lot
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: of you listening were like I had Paul in that pool.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: I had Paul to say something right, and you know,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: and I have actually absolutely been in Evans shoes, you know,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: sort of you know, getting out over my skis a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: little bit and getting carried away. So it happens the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: other part. And just to sort of reiterate with Fred's
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: talking about like taking the Maya helper and you and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: I talked about it Friday morning, so I know how
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: how much you were bothered by what you did, and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: what we ended up backfiring. It wasn't just like well
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: people had already seen it, but now what happens is
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: just the line lives on, just the money line that
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: Evan can't say anymore. If you listen to it, if
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: you if you've got a chance to go back and
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: listen to it, you'd hear the context. And I'm not explaining,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: I'm not excusing. We definitely we went too far, but
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: like it's talking about sort of a frustration level in
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: the locker room, and there's some context there that unfortunately
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: gets lost. Our decision gets you know, it makes it
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: get gets lost a little bit. But yeah, yeah we
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: did it. We own it and we move on.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: And I was even thinking, oh, I'll put it back up,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: and it's like, no, no, don't do that.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: Friend.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Now you're creating a third store, you know, like just
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: just let it go, let it go. I'm my bad. Yeah,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: so my yah too. Yeah. So you live and learn.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like Evin said, our our job.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: I remember when Belichick first got here, I sat down
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: with Brian Maury and you know, we kind of went
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: over the ground rules because you know, back then we
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: that you were in on.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: That, but that was before I was shunned.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we were doing the newspaper back then,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: and so we were doing a lot of writing. And
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: you know, the agreement we had with Belichick is we
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: don't break news. We don't you know, disclose injuries. We
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: don't take cheap shots. You know, we try not to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: do that. And I think we we did it up.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: We did a really good job of adhering to those rules.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: We screwed up, But when you look at the volumes
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: of stuff that we produce, I think we've done a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: decent job at that, you know. And like anybody that
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: watches our show, they know that we're as objective as anyone.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: You know, just listen to this show right here. We
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: we try to be fair, though, and we try to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: not take cheap shots. You know. We try to not
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: take guys who you know, can do things we only
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: wish we could do and say that they suck and blow.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: We have some freedom, you know, and that comes from
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: from the crafts that want us to do it that way.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: They want us to cover the team. I just has
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: no value if we're not and I keep track a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: little bit, I don't listen and watch what every other
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: team does. But I see stuff, and I tell you,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: there's teams that would have taken the game that the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: Patriots played Sunday and they would have done a two
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: hour radio show today on Marty Marpoo and man like
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: that was really because I think he was impressive in
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: that game, not necessarily his performance, but just the fact
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: that he did everything that he was asked to do
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: in that game, playing every snap. There's there's teams in
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: the league they wouldn't even talk about the fact that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: they lost. They would just talk about this guy came
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: off of injured reserve and in his first game, he's
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: got the green dot. He's playing linebacker, he's playing safety.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: We haven't even mentioned that yet more over an hour
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: in and we talked about that a lot in the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: post game show. No, I know, I know, but you're stifled,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: stifled by the constant negativity. They won't show no. But
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, as an example, that's the way
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: that they want us to do it. They want us
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: to sort of cover the team. And Jonathan himself told
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: me my first month here, if we lose a game
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: and you don't tell people we lost, no one's ever
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: going to listen to you, right, Like, you can't just
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: pretend that they want to gain and they lost.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: You know, I've always it has no value if if
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: we're not honest, then you know, what's the point of listening,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: you know. So we're trying to be honest, but we
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: try to be fair and when we can, we try
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: to accentuate the positive. I mean, I it's good for
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: us for this team to be good. You know, winning
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: is good for us. Gerard Mayo being a successful head
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: coach is something that I really really want to happen to,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: And uh so, you know, I think that's like, honestly
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: where my frustration is coming from, because I want Girod
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: to succeed, Like I want the team to be good
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: more than anybody. And you know, I just let that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: kind of get to me a little bit that they
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: are where they are right now. And obviously, I.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 8: It's funny you guys had the challenge of doing that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: after you know, when you started Paulo. The team was
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: so good over that period, but it was still challenging,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: you know, like it was still hard for you guys,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: I'm sure to yeah, well, yeah, you're first two but.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: Then obviously it becomes a lot easier to avoid the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: pitfalls that we fell in this week when you go
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: twenty plus years of boring twelve and four seasons according
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: to you, I know, yeah, so it obviously was a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: lot easier to follow those rules.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: An now it's the four and well, I think when
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: we had our meeting with him, it was two right, Yeah,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: it was early, so early had the early success, to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: be honest, and then the next year they didn't make
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: the playoffs.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: Right, And you know what I think was the I
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: think that drew bledsoe trade was the impetus read yeah,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: because you know, we all recall we broke that. That
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: was the last bit of news that we broke on
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: pitch start.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: No, but in all fairness, we were allowed to break that.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: We didn't break any We didn't do it by yeah, no, no, no,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: But I'm saying I think that was kind of like
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: you know, but I would not.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Be for give another example where we screwed up, not
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: not intentionally, but I think it grew. I think it
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: was the Ted Washington uh either extension or no. We
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: were signing him and his agent called us.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: That the Herald had a story and told us saying
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: that that the Ted Washington re signing was all but done.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: The hell this was. Felger was actually the beat writer
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: at the time, and we were not allowed to break news,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: but if it was out there, we were allowed to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: put it up, and we put it up based on
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Harold Report talked to the agent.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: Right the Herald Report said that this was and then
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden it wasn't a done
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: deal and they thought that us, like the agent went
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: to the team and said, your team sight is saying
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: this is all done. It's that was, you know, and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: that was one of those deals like wait till it's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: done and then.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Well, also we could have a reliable source. Our problem
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: was using Felger as the source. Well you know it
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: was Shefter. He wasn't around right now.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: Felger is my biggest fan, so we want to kill him.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, we've had those things. Question I wrote,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: I wrote something that Bill didn't like once and we
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: had a very uncomfortable conversation in an elevator once. But
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: I and I said this a million times since Bill
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: was tough to deal with, like, you know, because he
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: never made you really feel comfortable. But he was as
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: professional with me every day after that as he was
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: with anybody else that covered the media now that covered
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: the team, You know, did I I felt like that day,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: I you know, I was out for him, like, yep,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: he's you know, it's like Fred's old fur. You're either
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: fur or you're again. I was again. I was in
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: the notes like I was out for him. But you'd
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: never know that. He never like ignored my questions or
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: didn't acknowledge me, you know, or any time after that.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: He was a tough guy to for everybody to cover,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: but he was remarkably consistent.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: I have Bill was plenty of emails from him when
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: he thought I screwed up, and probably half the time
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: he was right. The other half of the time we
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: could have a debate about.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: It, but it was nothing worse than opening your email
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: and seeing Bill Belichick. Yeah, but that's good feeling.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: They never told us what to write, what to say,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: or that's never you know. I think people have this,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: and I've heard it. People have this perception that it's
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: ESPN up there and the commercials, and you know, the
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: mascot's working at the computer and players are walking around
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: and Bill Belichick was looking over our shoulder. That is
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent not what goes on here to this day,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: to this day. That is not what goes on here. Now.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: We have a relationship with football where when we ask
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: for and are granted behind the scenes access, just like
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: NFL films, we whatever the produced pieces from that behind
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: the scenes access, we run it by them just like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: NFL films does. But that's the extent. Yeah, miked up
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: stuff that we do. We let the player look at it,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: you know, because we're being granted access that not everyone
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: has it. That's the collaboration, the cooperation, which is understandable,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: but they're not telling what to say or right. That's
• 1:11:01
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to Rod. All right, May.
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  Speaker 19: Just heard you on EI.
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  Speaker 20: You were asked about the quarterback situation in recent weeks
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 20: after a game. The next day when we talk to you,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 20: you've reiterated that Jacoby was said as a starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 20: Today you didn't go there, and I know you said
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 20: you haven't watched the film.
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  Speaker 2: Is do you feel like.
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  Speaker 21: I've watched the film. I just haven't watched like some
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  Speaker 21: of the other things. I watched the offense and the
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 21: defensive film. For sure, I get the special team. So
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  Speaker 21: what I would say is, you know, I think I've
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  Speaker 21: been pretty consistent, and my messaging is that every single
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  Speaker 21: week we're all or I should say every single day,
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  Speaker 21: we're all being evaluated, and it's no different.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's kind of how I see Thank you.
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  Speaker 19: I just remind you turning your cameras before asking your
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  Speaker 19: question if you can just helps them and so coach
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  Speaker 19: can see you as you asked, the question will go
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 19: mark Daniel's fall up at the quarter ring.
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  Speaker 11: Edro, good morning. When you meet with your coaches today,
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  Speaker 11: do you anticipate talking about the potential of starting Drake
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  Speaker 11: May and making a change of quarterback.
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  Speaker 21: When I meet with the coach today, it's about you know,
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  Speaker 21: we're in a solution driven business and we aren't playing
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  Speaker 21: good football, and so we have to look at every
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 21: single unit and every single player and figure out how
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 21: we use this roster to go out there and win games.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 14: Coacoda Randall, followed by Mike Riesee Rod.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 11: While understanding the struggles of the offense aren't on just
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 11: one person, is making a change at offensive play caller
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 11: during the season something you'd ever consider that's not under consideration.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 7: Next question, Mike Priese Gud, how would you evaluate Jacoby's
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 7: performance yesterday?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just wasn't good enough.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 21: I thought we played well enough off sorry defensively on
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 21: special teams to win the football game. And look as
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 21: the quarterback and he understands this. You know, he touched
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 21: the ball on every single play and we didn't win
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 21: the game. Was four enough points to win the game?
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  Speaker 21: And I think he would echo that same sentiment that
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 21: it wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 14: We'll got Doug kie faulbout Chris Ryan, and we'll keep
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  Speaker 14: it with just one question and then we'll come back
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  Speaker 14: to you. If you have a follow up question, just
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  Speaker 14: raise your hand again, which I get to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Drad on the Jabrill Pepper situation.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 20: Have you heard anything from the NFL about potentially putting
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 20: him on the Commissioner's exemptal list?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 21: So you know, we informed the NFL and we're still
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 21: gathering information. I know the team put out a statement
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 21: earlier today, So I'm not sure you know how the
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  Speaker 21: league and how we are going to handle that going forward,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 21: but we should. We should find out some more information
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  Speaker 21: over the next few days.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.
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  Speaker 19: Chris Fryan, followed by Sophie Rome.
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  Speaker 13: Born in Draft football as well with you, I'm on
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 13: the quarterback situation. You know, seeing what bo Nix is
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 13: doing Williams and you know, obviously Jayden Daniels is doing.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 13: Is that in any way make make you inclined to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 13: kind of see what what Drake can do, and particularly
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 13: that they struggled a little bit early on and then
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 13: have a transitioned into being effective in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I watched those guys on film.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 21: I would say each each situation is unique, and so
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 21: it is our situation, and like you, I think you
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 21: hit it on the head. You know, those guys it
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 21: was a little bumpy at first. Jade and Dane's aside.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 21: But those guys are playing at a high level, and
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 21: so it's natural for fans and for the media to say, well,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 21: we have you know, a good quarterback waiting in the
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 21: wings as well. But at the same time, you know,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 21: our mentality is how do we develop him? How do
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 21: we get the guys on the field around him to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 21: develop and and move forward from there?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 19: Thank you, Thanks Sophie Willing.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 22: Hi, Jerrod, I was just curious having Jabrill and Kyle out.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 22: How do you feel like your safety group with Dell,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 22: Jalen and Marte stepped up? Uh, given that they were
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 22: out kind of those two major forces, it.
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  Speaker 2: Was very encouraging. And those guys grew up yesterday.
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  Speaker 21: So like the way that they played, and hopefully here
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 21: going forward they continue to develop at that at that pace,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 21: you know, there is no injury and you know what
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 21: Pep's going through right now, We're gonna need guys to
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 21: step up, and I thought they did that yesterday. It
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 21: wasn't perfect, but I thought they played hard. I thought
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 21: they uh did what we asked them to do, and
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 21: there's something to build off of.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 6: Thank so.
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  Speaker 23: Andrew kill him, Giord, what did you guys find out
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 23: about Jabril's situation.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: And was the injury report last week? The fact that
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: he was on it?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 23: Would he have played if it weren't for this situation?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 23: Just to just yeah, I don't, I don't want to.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 23: I don't want to speculate or do anything like that.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 23: He was dealing with an injury throughout the week and
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 23: so that's why he was on the injury report.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 11: Uh.
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  Speaker 21: Like I said earlier, Look, the team put out a
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 21: statement about it, and you know we're still gathering information.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Where did you guys find out about it? He called
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: me the morning.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 19: Though expression Hendrew County by Phil Perry.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 24: Hey, good morning, Girod. I know you're gathering information. That information,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 24: I'm sure will dictate your ultimate decision. But just based
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 24: on what you know now, would Dabroll be welcome in
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 24: the building today and tomorrow?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: You know, based on well he's not. He's not in
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: the building today. You know, he has his appearance and
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: things like that.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 21: But as we gather information, he can he can definitely
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 21: be in the building. Like we don't know, we don't
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 21: know enough to say he shouldn't be in the building.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you, Phil Perry, Mike, is Jabrill situation
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: something you will address with the team or you have
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: addressed with the team already and what would your message
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: be to them on that front.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I've already addressed it with the team. That messages
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 21: is really for the team. And what I will say is,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 21: you know, all through training camp, all through you know,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 21: the season, we talk about you know, uh situations that
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 21: happen around in the league.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: So we can learn from other people. This is uh.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 21: Look, as we gather information, I think the players need
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 21: to know about it and so we can learn from
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 21: whatever happened.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 19: Colbert to come.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 7: But I just had a couple of situational football questions.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: At the end of the second quarter.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 11: Were you happy with or I don't say were you happy?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: But was that like the same thing that we saw
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 7: against the Seahawks in terms of the two throws and
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 7: what were your thoughts on that?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 11: And then I'd love to ask you about the last
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 11: play too.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 21: Yeah, those were the I mean, it was like a
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 21: carbon copy of that game. What I would say is,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 21: you know, our execution throughout the season at the end
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 21: of the half and the end of the game, they
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 21: just have to be better. And that's exactly what you
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 21: saw at the end of the game where we ran
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 21: out of time once again. Uh, it wasn't the call.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 21: It was just that we weren't we didn't execute the.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Playfall and and now great moments.
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  Speaker 6: History and I lost.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: Right, Well, you do exactly predict it properly if if
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: you're wrong, if you if you think they're gonna win
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: by two touchdowns and then win by two touchdowns the
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: whole game. Yeah, no, it kind of unfolded the way
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: everybody thought it would. But if it was properly, and
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: then you were wrong, it's not proper You know they're wrong.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: And this is why I don't wrong and the only
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  Speaker 5: one that that counts exactly.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: And this is why I don't gamble. One.
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  Speaker 5: This is exactly why I don't gamble, because you get
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: it right and you can still lose a because the
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: games that play all right, So did I get so
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: I got it right? Well on Aaron, So I got
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: it right? Then right, did you win or lose?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: I won, then you got it.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 11: But if you lost, got it wrong.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: But but but just as easily they could have gotten
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: the yard and I wouldn't have covered.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: Aaron, what's up? That's why you don't gamble.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: That's why I do not Gamble's trying not to agree
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: with Paul.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: This is the effort.
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  Speaker 4: This is got it wrong.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: You got it wrong, but I didn't get it wrong.
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  Speaker 6: You were rubbish.
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  Speaker 3: Delightful. Now did you get announced when you watch into
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  Speaker 3: the arena they really were going to do it well
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  Speaker 6: MAC champion Mike Dessault.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, uh, now, how the delightful time there at Uh?
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  Speaker 8: I don't know what's that aganis arena?
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  Speaker 5: That was beautiful.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't find the Baseball Hall of Fame though, told
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  Speaker 8: me it was around there somewhere.
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  Speaker 5: It was in the back, in the back, run the back,
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  Speaker 5: you know. From my mouth, I was like, where's my guy?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 8: I at least want to go see the baseball diamond
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 8: where you dominated. And they didn't even get that.
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  Speaker 5: That's even further back.
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  Speaker 3: We were talking about the Baseball Hall of Fame of
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: the week. Yeah, I said that they I think they
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  Speaker 3: moved it to a dorm room and Warren Towers.
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  Speaker 5: I told you it's a different exhibit for me there
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: have I told my son, uh, was was at a
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  Speaker 5: fraternity event at b U and he.
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  Speaker 6: Was like, ah, this is great.
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  Speaker 15: You know.
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  Speaker 5: He just like love the campus and everything right in
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: the city. And I said, hey, make sure you take
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: your boys to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Recognize some greatness.
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  Speaker 5: So I told Fred. I sent the text. I go,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: I'd read this in my friend voice with a sniff.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: But then I had a text back and say, hey,
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  Speaker 5: make sure you don't really do that, because there's no
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  Speaker 5: building that actually exists.
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  Speaker 3: Noah from Toronto says the postgame show needs more levity
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: and less negativity. This year. We all know the team
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: is terrible. I'd rather laugh about it than cry or
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: argue about it.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: That's why I thought, Noah from Toronto, I thought we
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: took a good step to the the former. The levity
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: part this week, I thought we had and I think
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: it was because you were here.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: Fred.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: You bring you are you know, you bring high comedy generally,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: you know, like when you insist that Christian Illis didn't
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: interfere with that guy.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: I thought the ball was whizzing by. I thought it
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: was well.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 6: Timed, it was high comedy.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know it was.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: It was bang bang bang, but it was ridiculously dumb
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: and he was like eight yards.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't have to tackle. But I thought
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: that the ball was already out of play.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: That one was more questionable than Polk being out of bounds,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: Like Polk was clear.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: I kind of felt, what about the only one that
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: doesn't think Polk was out of bounds?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Just Pole?
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  Speaker 6: I know he was, you know, two weeks in a row.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: He doesn't know the rules, but he's trying to What
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: about Deleveret moving the ball?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 6: That was bs I honestly that I didn't see. I honestly,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: it's on the film. It's on the film, and it
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: is it is quite ridiculous.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 8: Kicks the ball up and you know, yeah, turns it
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: a little bit.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: That I think those things are stupid. I agree with you.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: I think that happens on a lot of plays. I
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: didn't see this one. The passing eperience was past.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 8: I just I just watched him like as it like
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 8: dawned on him, because I think he had no idea.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: And then you know, and then Jacobe started doing palms up,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: and then he went to like palms up, and you
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 8: watch it all kind of unfold, like, what who are
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 8: you calling?
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  Speaker 3: That one was tick tack Dylan in North Carolina on
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: the TVX utline, What's up, Dylan? Hey, how a y'all
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  Speaker 3: doing good.
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  Speaker 25: My biggest thing is everyone. I feel like a lot
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 25: of Patriots fans think that our defense is, you know,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 25: going to keep us in every single game, and in reality,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 25: I think we have two good guys in Gonzalo or
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 25: Gonzales and far more other than that. I mean, I
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 25: think you've got a lot of decent guys, but I
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 25: don't think that it's worth saying like they're going to
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 25: keep us in every single game. I mean, and you
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 25: saw that last last week. You've seen that against great
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 25: quarterbacks over the last three years. I mean, it's not
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 25: like in the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen era. And I
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 25: just think we need to pump the brakes on our
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 25: defense and how good the Patriots really are, because reality,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 25: we're not good at all, Like really nothing offense, defense,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 25: special teams. It all needs major work.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 26: And I'll think it up the air.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: Guys say okay, thanks.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: I think Evan wrote wrote it in his after further review,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 8: and I agree. It's like they've really missed you one
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: Bentley right now. They just they don't have guys in
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 8: the middle of the field that you know, can make
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 8: plays and can get through the trash and can defeat blocks,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 8: and a lot of times what you're seeing is that
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 8: those inside linebackers are just getting swallowed up and they
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 8: cannot get off, and it's it's a really hard way
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 8: to live. And I mean, I you know, I do
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: kind of question a little bit the personnel overall behind
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 8: Bentley because and I don't know, I mean, maybe I'm
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 8: being too critical because it just seems like a very
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: specific kind of job. But inside, I mean, I I
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 8: was okay with Mapu. I mean, I don't think he
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 8: was great. I do think that he's got a little
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 8: bit of the smarts and anticipation and a little wiggle
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 8: to get around guys inside and to be able to
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 8: make plays. It's not there yet for him. But you know,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 8: Ray Coui McMillan, it was it was a struggle for him.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think they definitely miss Bentley. I
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: think he's a really valuable player for them, and I
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: think his experience makes him better probably than his talent.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: And I would just say, like I think the caller Dylan,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: he's there is a perception that this defense is like
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: elite and they're going to keep the team in every game,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: and it's not that if that's what you're thinking, then
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: they're not that good. They're not that bad either. And
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: I've been kind of critical of the defense at times
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: over the years. I don't like listening we talked about,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: like some of the things that Mayo said. I don't
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: like the coach saying like we played defense good enough,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: defense and special teams were good enough to win this
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: game when there were litany mistakes on both of those
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: units on Sunday. You know, so this is not that
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: wasn't just an offensive loss. That was a team loss.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: The defense. You know, you're playing against the team that,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: believe it or not, scores less than you do without
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: its quarterback. Yep, okay, they had scored less points than
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: you allowed them to score Sunday in their previous three games.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: And you had the lead in the fourth quarter and
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: let them go fifteen plays eighty yards almost entirely on
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: the ground because they don't have a quarterback. You know,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: it would be one thing if they had like Josh
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: Allen out there and they they tricked you, you know,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: you were playing too deep and they would daring you
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: to run because yeah, Josh Allen, he's gonna rip you
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: a pot if you play anything different. This is Tyler
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: Huntley who missed a lot of throws in that game.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't think the defense was terrible the
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: other day, but they faded. How many three and ounce
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: did the Patriots have offensively? How many did Miami have? One? Yeah,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: and I'll even say two, except for you gave him
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: an extra possession by having too many men on the
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: field on the three and ol punt that you forced.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: Like the Dolphins drove the ball virtually every drive they had.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: They should have had more points if not for the
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: Dolphins themselves with just dumping, like snapping the ball when
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: no one's looking to get out to lose a field goal,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: having a rolling a ball back on another field goal,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: which by the way, came after they gated a field
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: goal with a fall start penalty. Like for all the
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: things that we said about the Patriots, Miami did all
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: the same stupid stuff. I mean, they just were the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: last one standing at the end. They were two terrible teams.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: Like forget about Tom Brady, but can you imagine a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: Patriots team in the past playing in a game where
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: the other team made that many mistakes? I mean, it
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: would have been over it. So I just hear a lot.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: A lot of the Bill people came out.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 6: I heard anything.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: The Patriots made these mistakes the last four years.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: A lot of people will tell you, like, you know,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: if Bill was coaching this team, they'd be three and two.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: That might be true. It could be.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know how much better I'd feel today. Honestly,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: I like winning more than losing news flash. But like
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: they could have won the game the other day if
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: if Bersett throws a little bit lower and Polk is
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: able to get both feet in bounds, Like, we still
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: have the same issues.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: Same issues. And let's face it, over the last few years,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: special teams has been not what we you know, are
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: used to. Yeah, penalties will have been a problem over
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: the you know, turnover, some mistakes, turnoversational places is a continuation.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: So special teams again.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 10: So I.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 5: In that game Special Team Chad, they block a punt,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: big play, They missed a thirty three yard field goal.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: They have the one bad punt. I believe that Bryce
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: Baringer has like two bad punts all year. They both
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: came in those situations.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: By the way, his bad punt is forty one yards, which.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: Is bad for him for anyone.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's bad.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: That's a bad punt and it gets returned twelve yards,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: so it's even worse. So that was a bad punt,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: bad situational punt there. Antonio Gibson taking the ball out
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: of the end zone Castius some yardage at the end
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: on a kickoff he and I don't know if he
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: thought because it landed in the landing zone he had.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: To return it.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: I think he could have taken the touch back. And
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: Evan you says that ye twenty five, so it's like
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: six yards they lost there.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: I think he got.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: Tackled at the nineteen. So special teams weren't great either,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: you know. So I don't know why you, as a
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: coach go out and say, you know, defensive special teams,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: you know we did enough to win.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think defensively, And I get that some
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: people are gonna hear it as making excuses. But at
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 6: this point in this game on Sunday, you know, you're
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: they don't have bar Moore, you know, they don't have Bentley.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 6: They're also down there starting safeties, who are two impact
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: players on that on the defense, so they're.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Down a lot of guys.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, you walk at some of these
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 6: run plays, like they're they're trying to stop the run
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: out of too high. They don't have Bentley in the
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: middle of the defense to be able to get off
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: blocks and make things happen. They don't have Dugger and
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: Pepper's filling from you know, eight ten yards off the ball,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: and those two guys come, you know, flying down and
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 6: car crashes all over the place.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: Most of the time, I agree with all that. I'm
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: just saying I'm not gonna call it anything different than
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: it was. Yeah, all of those things are true. The
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: other team lost their starting running back in the first quarter.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that's it's totally fair. I just I think defensively,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 6: where where I critique them schematically is just you have
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: a outstanding corner in Christian Gonzales.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: Like, this guy is a star, He's he is the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: real the best player you know for the Patriots through
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: five games. I don't really think this is a close section.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he is the real deal. And if I was
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: the Patriots, and it's just my opinion, I would lean
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: as far into that as you possibly can extend him now,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: and I would.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: Say do like, you know how like I'm sort of
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: not as on board with the Christian Gonzalez as everybody else.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: That's why what Evan's talking about, lean More into that
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: if you're the guy, if you're the man, just let
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: just do the Tai law thing and have ten guys
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: over there. I got this guy right.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: They don't do that. No, they play too much zone.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: They're still playing too much zone. And I just if
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: I if I was them. You know, remember in eighteen
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: and nineteen when Gilmore was really at the peak of
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: his powers, it was cover zero. It was Manton across
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 6: the board all the time, single high safety up top
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: five man rush. Like you have a guy that can
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 6: cover Tyreek Hill for the entire game.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: Cooks and the Super Bowl pick and not Cooks and
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: not give.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: Up an explosive play, one of the most explosive guy
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: in the league, and he's stride for stride with him
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: the entire game. And yet you're gonna drop out into
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 6: Cover two, Like, I don't understand what the point of
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: that is, Like, especially with that playing quarter right, Like,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: get get up in the receivers faces, disrupt the timing
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: on the outside with some physical coverage, and blitz the
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: crap out of the quarterback because you're not getting home
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: with four because you don't have a bar More, you
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: don't have a Jude On like, you don't have the
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: guys to get home with four when they rush four guys.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: They're thirty first in the league in pressure rate, second
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: to last. So if you're you have corners in Gonzales
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: and I would also put the Joneses in this category
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: two who can cover man to man? Those guys can cover,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: So let them go and go, you know, give the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 6: resources to the pass rush and try to get after
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: the quarterback a little bit. I just don't think they
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: do that enough. And the other example I'll just give
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: quickly right now, in Denver, Patrick Curtan is like the
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: best defensive player in the league. I mean, he's outstanding.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: Denver right now is running man to man coverage forty
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: five percent of the time. It's the highest rate in
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: the league. They're running cover zero at almost ten percent
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: of their passing place because they know that Cirtan is
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: just gonna take his man out. So even if we
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: face a Tyree kill, a Garrett Wilson, whoever it is,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: we don't have to worry about him getting beat man
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: to man. I'm not trying to say that Gonzalez is
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: on that level yet, but for this team he might
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: have to be on that level if they want to
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: get the defense back in order.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 8: Love it great, n I'm fired up. You get them
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 8: fired up.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: That's basically my feeling is for five minutes. It's not
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: like I keep getting chirped every time someone says Gonzales
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: had a really good game, which I still, by the way,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: want to point out that your bible, you people your bible,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: say that he's not having a good year. But whatever,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: I watched games and I just used the dinosaur eye test.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: I think he's pretty good. I think he's played well.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: I don't understand why he doesn't cover very average graded
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: in PFF, but he does over the guy, but it's
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: not always man to man like he So he covered
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: hill twenty one times in this game, but only five
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: of them were pure man to man and.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 6: It's like five and all five of them he's literally
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: in his hip pocket like they ran it.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: I thought it was more than that. Again, is the dinosaurs,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: Well some of it.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: Some of it is like match zone, where like if
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: he runs a vertical it converts to man to man.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: So those are like the lines, but they ran Hill
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: on like one of those cheap motions where he comes
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: in motion and rolls into the route and Gonzo has
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: him in man to man and Hill takes off and
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 6: he literally looks like he is not even running that hard,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: and he keeps up with the fastest receiver in the league,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: and it's like, why wouldn't you just let him do
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: that the entire game?
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: I so this week could be interesting with that too,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: because Nico Collins is going to be out. Diggs is
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: a guy that's given them fits.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in the.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: Past, do you just lock him up with with Gonzales
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: on digs and worried about Tank Dell with with the
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: smaller guys, with Marcus Jones.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 8: Lock him on, frustrate him, he'll turn to start tanking him.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: He's not anywhere close to what he was last year
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: coming off but Ton acl.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Strap missed him a couple of times in this
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: last game, I thought, But it's it just it screams
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: to me twenty nineteen Patriots, like put everybody on the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 6: line of scrimmage, Glegg Gonzo, take his guy one on
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: one and just come after the quarterbacks, like you're not
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 6: sitting in these zone you can't protect is not working.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: Houston has had a hard time protecting Shroud, been sacked
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: fourteen times.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get back to the TPX outline.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: Craig's in California.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: Hey, Craig, I know, Craig, crag I'm supposed to wait
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: for us there, Craig, how about I gotta let you go.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: Speaking of Houston, Let's go to Colleen in Houston. What's up, Colleen?
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 27: Hey, guys, I hate to bring the mood down, but
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 27: I gotta to talk about the Jabriel Pepper situation. I'm
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 27: really disappointed by the team's non reaction basically, I know,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 27: with like the Jack Jones thing and with the Kishambouti thing.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 27: You know, wait for all the evidence and stuff. But
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 27: this is the same team that refused to uh draft
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 27: Joe Mixon, the same team that released Antonio Brown based
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 27: on my text message. And this woman had bruises and
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 27: scrapes all over her body and he was arrested for it,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 27: and we need more evidence.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: I just I didn't hear about the bruises and scrapes. Yeah,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: that was repet.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: He alleges that he has video. His lawyer alleges that
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: he has video evidence that that's not how it happened.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: She fell down the stead, Now, I know that's the
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: that's the cliche of domestic abuse while I fell. I
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: you know, I understand where Colleen's coming from totally. You know,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: we'll see, you know, I don't know what's going to happen,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: But that was I'm not gonna lie. That was my
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: initial response yesterday, is like, why he's still on the team,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: Like domestic to me, Yeah, that's the that's one of
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: the things that you can't come back from. Yeah, Like,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: you know, I I agree with Colleen. I was a
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: little surprised that there was no action. Yeah, but I
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: don't know all the information either.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 27: There's video evidence, why not release it? That was also
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 27: I just think that's muddying the water.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: That also came to my mind, Colleen, because if you, okay,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: so you didn't show this to the police, you have
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: video evidence, and you didn't show this, you might have
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: been able to avoid all of this.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 27: Right you know, Yeah, no, exactly. So thanks, Paul, I
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 27: appreciate your sport, and yeah, let's hope.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: They do the right thing, all right, Thanks Colleen, And
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: I just want to reiterate I don't have the information,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: So like if it comes out in like a couple
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: of weeks that this is all made up by the woman,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: and people go, yeah, Paul I wanted to cut him. No,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: I don't have the information. My initial reaction was exactly
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: what Colleen's initial reaction is though, Like, domestic abuse is
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: different to me. You can't lay your hands on it's
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: not you know, speeding, Yeah, it's it's different.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 8: Even bringing guns to the airport.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 5: I would have cut him too. I was very consistent
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: with that. Violence to me is a different animal.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 8: I just say overall, I mean, it's just so disappointing
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 8: what's happened to the captains, what's happened to a lot
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 8: of the players that they sign to long term extensions
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 8: have now gone onto IR or have been And you know,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 8: this is its own situation, but just from a team
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 8: building standpoint, so much of what they invested in right
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 8: now is not what it's going to be rolling out
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 8: on the field here.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: And so much of what's happened I think gives Mayo
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: the excuse to like all of a sudden turn into
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: a hard ass right now. You know, Like I know
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: he wants to be collaborative and supportive and you know,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: it's the new wage athlete. But like he's he's got
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: an excuse right now to like clamp down, you know.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 8: So he's got to do something. I mean, it's you know,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 8: and I mean I don't think that necessarily this incident
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 8: with Gabriel Peppers is a reflection of the locker room
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 8: or those you know, Like this seems to me like
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 8: Gabril Peppers is maybe a bad guy and that's just
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 8: you know, what happened. But at the same time, there's
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 8: no discipline on the field, right there's self inflicted wounds.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 8: I mean, those are the bigger concerns.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 9: To me.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 8: This is a little bit of its own headache and nightmare.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 8: But just echo what Paul said. I mean, if if
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 8: it turns out to be true, that he's got to
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 8: be gone and I and I'm a fan of the
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 8: player on the field, you know, and that's and.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: I just wonder to you know, until they find out
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: if it's true, Like I'm okeny, I'm curious to see
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 5: what he's what he's his role is this week? Is
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: he here? Is he going to be in the building
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 5: tomorrow when they have practice or are they going to
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: say you know what, we will stand by you. We'll
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: wait to see what the evidence shows, but you're not
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: playing until we find out. Like to me, airing on
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: that side and being wrong is better than airing on
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: the other side and being wrong.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: And that's how I would wagh if I were the organization.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 8: Which they might even get killed, just letting them in
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 8: the building, like even just let them be in the lock.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: I would say, you know what, you're not off the team,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: but you stay home. You're going to be an act of.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 8: This, and that way is it. The NFL could take
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 8: a little bit of the pressure off them by putting
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: commissioners let me exemplist and saying, let's just take this
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 8: out of the team's hands.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: And until this, you know, Ray Rice is the sort
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: of example that everyone uses. When that first happened, the
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: Ravens stood behind him. It wasn't until that elevator video
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: came out that the raven said, okay, we've got.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: To well but just you know, and also the league suspended.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: Him when the elevator thing came out.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: Before the elevator came out, then they looked horrible because
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: it was learned that they saw the video and that
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: was I think it was like a two game suspension
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: of something.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: Laughable and then they made it six or something, and
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: then you.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: Know, obviously to your point, Baltimore said, we can't have
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: that guy on it right now that everybody knows, right,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: But that's but I hope that's not the case. And
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: it's a different to I think. I don't know, Like
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: I'm willing to you can't, you can't. I'm willing to
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: have due process.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: I'd rather I would rather be winless this year, and
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: like I said, I would rather.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: Be wrong and find out that he was innocent after
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: the fact and have dealt with something that he's been
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: accused of strongly then the other way around, right, Like, well,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna let it play out. He can
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: play in these three games and all of a sudden
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: you find out he was absolutely guilty.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 8: But that would make me sick, right, No, I'm all
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 8: set with seeing him until unless.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: That's coming from Mike, right, I mean, biggest guy.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: And now that said, I hope I hope the evidence
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: does prove him innocent.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 5: For more reasons, yeah, like for a lot more football.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: I hope he didn't do this, right because I hope
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: this this woman did not you know, suffer domestic abuse.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: That's what I hope.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: It's just it. It's tough to see to Mike's point
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: that so many of the guys that they were counting
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: on coming into this season all for different reasons. But
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 6: you know, Barmore, they signed him to this big extension.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 6: He's a great player, Blood.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 5: Clottsmore Bentley, andrews now Peppers.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: And Pepper's you know, checks the core for for all
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: intensive purposes, quits on the team and goes home, you know,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 6: like he's your your left tackle signing in the off season.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 8: Really good point, Michael inconsistent. Yeah at best.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Ramandra Stevenson fumbles and four straight games out of
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: the gate.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 8: Like, it's just so many of the I mean, this
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 8: is it's crazy to go right down through it.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 5: So it's bad enough that you sort of went into.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: Can we talk about Christian Gonzales, You went.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: Into the season sort of knowing, you know, I get
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 5: like Girod said, we're going to take some lumps. I
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: think that's the phrase that he used a lot more.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: But these are some of the things you thought were
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 5: going to be on the plus side, and you guys
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: just rattled up a laundry list of things that haven't yep.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 6: Now because just to be a little bit positive, Remandred,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: I thought, whether we want to call it a benching
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: or what. I wouldn't call it necessarily a benching, but
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, he played great in the game, didn't fumble,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 6: so there's that. I thought he handles it during the
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 6: week and after the game perfectly. So that was a
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: really good example by him. And you know, just that
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 6: that's what you're looking for, is accountability and then obviously
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: getting better and not being an error repeater.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 8: And just Antonio Gibson I think has been pretty good
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 8: and it's been a good signing. And you know it's
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 8: another piece that that you know, did work out. And
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 8: I'm just gonna take this moment to glow about Mappoo
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 8: a little bit. And I think, you know Paul's right
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 8: about you know, did he play all that great? Did
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 8: he impact the game all that much? I think was
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 8: a six tackle or something like that? I mean not really,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 8: but like I was just so impressed for a guy
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 8: that we spent you know, last year. I think he
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 8: played maybe one hundred defensive snaps the whole the whole year,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 8: Is that right? One hundred defensive snaps.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: He played like seventy plays the other day, and you've
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: only played a hundred half.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: It might have been close.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 8: Sorry I might. I might closer to two hundred. Sorry,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 8: I think it's two hundred defensive steps total. So I
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 8: wrote he played basically half the snaps in one game.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 8: So when we kind of joked this summer, we got
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 8: hurt the first day at training camp, and day two
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 8: he's out there watching. He'd trudge out, he'd sit there,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 8: you know, he'd stand behind the defense, and we're like,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 8: who's this guy? I think he is calling the defense
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 8: back there, making you know, making hands signals to himself
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 8: and stuff. And even you know, last week, it was like,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 8: are you gonna play this week? And he'said, I hope,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 8: So I hope, So I want to play. And then
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 8: Jirod came on the radio before the game was like,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 8: I hope he can go the whole game. So I
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 8: just think it's a it's a really good sign that
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 8: a kid who look, I don't need him to be
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 8: perfect in his first game of the season, but that
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 8: they trust him that much to call the defense to
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 8: play multiple roles with. Like I said, one hundred times.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 8: Three practices, like three real practices, which and let's be honest,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 8: these practices aren't anything like the training camp run a
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 8: football where you're getting physicality and you know, you're kind
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 8: of going through the motions at least two of the
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 8: three days out there. So I just think it's a
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 8: good sign. Like I said before, they made a guy
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 8: like that, who and especially with Peppers now in question
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 8: and possibly no no longer dressing for the Patriots again,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 8: it's a it's it's a that's a really positive piece
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 8: to take out think.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: It might put them on the good list on Sunday.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 5: We both go absolutely no idea how.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 6: Well we played, But he's on the good one.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 8: I mean, he's got some wiggle though to him, Like
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 8: like I went back and when I was watching, when
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 8: I was grinding the film yesterday, like I really wanted
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 8: to you know, am I am? I just was he
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 8: just out there? I didn't want to come out here,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 8: you know, doing the whole band. But he's he's always
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 8: had kind of a quick ability to change direction, recognize
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 8: something and go the other way. And I just and
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 8: it translates, it's like he didn't look out of place
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 8: at linebacker. He had good size, and you know, I
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 8: think for some of the people who've been banging that
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 8: drum about getting a mobile, second level guy like you know,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 8: and maybe he's not a full time week side linebacker
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: like some people might want, but but maybe he's going
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 8: to play an even bigger role because he's you know,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 8: gonna be calling the defense. He's going to be you know,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 8: I just think he's going to be a key piece
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 8: going forward. They got to keep him healthy in the
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 8: lineup and then you know, that might be a real
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 8: piece to build off of.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: Goal.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there was one play in the red side. I
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 6: think it was the play which a finally gets hunting
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: down on a sack. He covered three different reads I
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 6: know exactly what he covered, three different reads he recognized open.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: He started on the left hand side in like a
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: bracket I think it's like a cover seven quarters And
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: he starts in the bracket and he goes in the
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 6: middle of the field. Then he gets on the post
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 6: to take away Tyreek Hill over the top, all on
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 6: the same play and I was like, that's a guy
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 6: that mentally is seeing the game, you know.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 12: Now.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 6: The one thing I would just say that for improvement
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 6: is just play action. You know, there's a couple of
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 6: times where play action plays. He he came hard charging
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 6: at the line of scrimmage, playing to run and they
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 6: threw it right by fake. Yeah, Johnny Smith beat him
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: on a crosser off play action for seventeen yards. He
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 6: was getting pulled out of those passing lanes a little
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: bit too much. But that's all processing and that can
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 6: improve over time and things like that. And they have
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: a really tough time right now covering the middle of
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 6: the field. So if you can add some range and
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 6: athleticism and cover talent to that area of the field,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: I'm all for it. And maybe Taki Taki comes back
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 6: to and that's another guy that can cover and can
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 6: move a little bit, and they can get some of
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: these plays that they're giving up in the middle of
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 6: the field taken care of.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 8: I just say, you hear so much them talk about always,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 8: you know, film junkie loves it and get like you know,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 8: and you know sometimes that but with him, I kind
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 8: of believe it now, like to be able to do that,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 8: Like they clearly trust him on a different level than
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 8: they might trust other guys.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Cole's and Saint Louis Hey, Cole Cole, Yes, Hey, how's.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 12: It going on?
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 8: Hey Cole?
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 26: So my two cents and the whole Drake May situation is,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 26: I just say, a loss of online. How we are
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 26: ruined Drake May, how he ruined mac Jones. And last
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 26: time I checked, Drake May was got the third overall.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 26: Mac Jon's got the teams Nobody when we drafted mac Jones.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 26: Did we expect mac Jones to get top five quarterbacks
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 26: in the league. So if we're worried about ruining him,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 26: then we messed up drafting third overall.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 15: Begin with.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 8: I mean, I just think you played Drake. You played
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 8: mac Jones like. You didn't ruin mac Jones by playing like.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: In all fairness, though, when they drafted mac Jones, he
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: was supposed to be the most NFL ready quarterback in
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: the draft.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 5: Right. But I think Mike's point is, I don't really
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: think that they ruined mac Jones. I know that's the
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: common narrative that they ruined him. I don't think that
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: they they did him any favors and year two and
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: year three, but I think if mac Jones was the
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: real deal.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: The ruined to stay, that's for su But I'm just.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: Saying, if he was the real deal, you'd still be
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 5: seeing him play.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 8: I'd say, if there aren't real strides taking next offseason
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 8: to ensure ensure that the tackle position and the offensive
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 8: line in general has a good starting place, and that
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 8: there's a little bit more speed at the wide receiver position,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 8: like you know, then we can talk about because I
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 8: think those are the things that didn't help mac Jownes.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 8: I don't want to say they ruined him, but they
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 8: didn't give him enough of a chance to succeed because
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 8: they didn't take care of those pieces.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: Maybe we won't bring Brian Flores in to be the
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, right.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 8: He can be the defensive probably the best talk about
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 8: Cover zero Matt and des moines.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 28: What's up, Matt, Hey, I just had a question as
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 28: far as, uh, when we're gonna start Drake May. So,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 28: I know you guys previously said that it should be
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 28: pretty obvious when we're going to be starting Drake May.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 28: But when you guys think the announcement will happen during
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 28: the week, well, if if.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: They're gonna play him, I think yeah, I think that yeah,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: Mayor will tell us if they're going to play him.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 5: I think London. I think that London. This is what
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 5: I said on on on Sunday. I just think it
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 5: makes some sense Fred's looking for.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: I think, I know, I think this week's better than
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: London because London, if you're talking about getting him prepared
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: for the game, London is a disruptive week. You're gonna
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: be leaving on a Thursday late afternoon, you're gonna be
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 3: flying on a red eye to London, and you're gonna
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: go right to practice when you get to London. This
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: is a better week to start, just from a preparation standpoint.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 6: I've heard London too, and I was telling you know,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 6: because not that we have to play in the game,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: but we do the travel aspect of it, and it's
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: it's quite disruptive of your whole routine and all this
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 6: kind of stuff to go throw him into a European
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 6: game like that, where it's a weird week. He's traveling
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 6: midweek and not on a Saturday, and then you know
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: he's jet lagged and like all this stuff. It's it's
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 6: just an odd situation.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 8: He's never been out of North Carolina before this year.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I also think you even have a passport
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 6: I hope so rank. I also think that, you know, Sunday,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 6: I would play him Sunday against the Texans. But it's
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: like the number one defense in the league right now.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 6: Their pass rush is number one in the league, and
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: pressure a you know, so like five yeah, Will Anderson
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 6: and Daniel Hunter coming off the edges at him, you know,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: welcome to the NFL, rookie, like, you know, like, but
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 6: maybe that's good for him. That's why I just can't
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: believe they didn't play him against this Miami team was
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 6: kind of garbage like that. That was just the shock
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 6: to me. It was like, this is such a layup
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: game for him to play against a really lousy team.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 6: Your left tackle is a clean sheet tacks playing at
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 6: home against the team with their third string quarterback who
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: has no pass rushers healthy, Like it just seemed like
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: that was the game.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: But Dan is in New Jersey.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 29: Hey Dan, big guys, this is not a Drake may call.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 29: But you could see the headlines if they do, wait
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 29: a week, it's going to be London calling right.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: Today.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 29: Here's here's my question. Though I don't think this was asked,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 29: but I didn't hear on the postgame show today, But
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 29: at the end of the game when they're down by
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 29: six or five. Excuse me, it's fourth and fifteen. Why
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 29: don't just kick the field goal, play the defense, get
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 29: the ball back. I mean it played out that that
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 29: would have worked, because they would have with polkached about
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 29: like the thirty five, they could have had a cheap
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 29: a long field goal.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: But everything changes. I mean, you could have done that.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that that would be that would have
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: been wrong. That was an option, absolutely, Dan, But don't
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: go by like they ended up on the eleven yard
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: line or whatever it was, and they would have kicked
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 5: a field Like everything changes, Miami's urgency to get a
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: first down is much greater. If they know that they
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 5: can't give up a field goal, they lose, you know
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, it's much harder. Like Miami's goal there
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: was don't turn the ball over, make them use all
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: three timeouts. They can't go sept sixty yards, you know,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: with no timeouts. And who was it how much time
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: was left?
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 6: Twenty seconds? Yeah, thirty seconds, thirty seconds. They got the
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 6: ball back with twenty nine seconds.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: So like to me, it's different if Miami has to
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 5: get a first down to prevent you from getting a
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: field goal. Plus, even if it does work out exactly
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 5: the same and you get the three in out, Miami's
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: playing defense differently than they played. They're not giving you,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 5: you know, that catch the Hunter Henry right right, you
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 5: know they're not just in the end zone. They're preventing there,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 5: trying to prevent a field goal range right completion you.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 6: Look at it's just it's just probabilities, right, Like what's
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 6: more likely? And remember it was fourth and ten before
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 6: Hunter Henry jumped off side.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: So it's to pick up in fifteen from the seventeen, Yeah,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: that being right.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So converting that fourth down or kicking the field goal,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: maybe recovering an on site kick, or getting a three
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 6: and out and then getting down the field again to
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 6: kick another field to win the game. You know, the
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 6: nerds would probably say it was more likely that you
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 6: pick up the fourth down.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 8: Can I ask you, guys, did you know that's not
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 8: a lot of people really reacting strongly to that last
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 8: past that were set through to Hunter Henry and you know,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 8: were like, it can't go to him of anybody like,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 8: and I just I wasn't as upset because I just
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 8: felt like he just was chucking it up, like.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 5: You saying, why he didn't just check it up into
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: the end zone.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 6: I've cheened some.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: Still shots which I don't know, I know that's what
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: I thought. I've seen some still shots that are laughably misleading,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 5: like one has like Douglas running toward the sideline, like
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: you could have fitted into that role and then he
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: could have gotten out of bounce like this is like
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: a zero.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 6: This this guy's everywhere.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: Miami had everybody back, Like I just would have chucked
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 5: it into the end zone and hope that maybe he
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 5: gets deflected, you know, like you know, I would have
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: given myself a shot. It was only was thirty six yards, right, No,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: it's further than that. I think, Oh okay, maybe it
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: was their own thirty six they took over and that's
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 5: what's sticking out.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you throw it in the end zone,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: it wasn't fourth down, right, so.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: You know, but there it was going to be the last.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: You might have had time for two plus, right, if
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 5: you threw one in the end zone, and you might
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: have had time for two plus.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 6: I actually kind of liked the design of the play,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 6: like I thought it was.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I think they were trying to do. Yeah, well,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: the one guy one guy Street, you know, the Mario
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 5: Doug was streaking across the field one way, catching it
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: boom to a guy going to maybe Polk coming the
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: other way.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 6: But they had all the crossers going in one direction
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: boom win. So they had like the it was like
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 6: vertical and to clear it out. And then they had
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 6: three clock crossers at three different levels coming across from
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 6: the left to right, and like all three crossers are
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 6: going into the sideline, like pretty well designed play where
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 6: you think, you know, if I hit one of these levels,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 6: then the guy's gonna have a chance to get out
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 6: of bounds. The problem was is that I had Hunter.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 6: The ball just stopped Hunter Henry in the middle of
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 6: the field instead of carrying him into the sideline. But
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 6: you know, I he might have been able to get
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 6: it to pop on the second level crosser. I don't
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 6: know if the safety might make the tack.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 5: And I don't know that that's what they were trying
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: to do, but I just wonder, like, do you have
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 5: a better chance of maybe hitting someone on a dead
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: run across the field and having them lateral or just
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: throwing one up for grabs in the air.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 6: So he had said on the EI that he go
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 6: al Mary, Yeah, that he was that the design of
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 6: the play is to hit pop at the second level
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 6: crosser and so then you're out of bounds at like
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 6: the thirty or something like that.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 5: And I know people had that still shot of that.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 5: I don't think he was wide open now as some people.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 6: The safety is sitting on it.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: So the safety is you know, some outlets are reporting
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: that he was wide open on that and they missed
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 5: him some outlets.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that's gonna be it for this.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: It's minutes.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you listening. We'll be back tomorrow at noon,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: so we'll talk to you then. And we got a
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: Patriots playbook with John Rook tomorrow. So another big day
• 1:57:51
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• 1:57:54
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