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Ep.80 | The Future of Curiously Guided; Where Do We Go From Here? (with Shay & Mariah) · Curiously Guided Podcast

0:07
SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Curiously Guided Podcast, the show for intentional business owners and curious minds looking to combine the inner work and outer work to create a life, business, and career that feels deeply fulfilling and wildly aligned on all levels.
0:21
SPEAKER_01: We're your hosts.
0:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm Shay.
0:23
SPEAKER_00: And I'm Mariah.
0:24
SPEAKER_00: We're two business strategists passionate about rewriting the rules to success in a way that combines both strategy and energetics.
0:34
SPEAKER_00: So this podcast started with both of us being in the online business world, craving more deep, meaningful, and transparent conversations.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: So we decided to come together and create a space to do just that.
0:47
SPEAKER_00: Our guest interviews highlight cool humans doing cool shit, chasing their dreams, and going down their own rabbit holes to create a more sustainable and fulfilling life in whatever way that means for them.
1:00
SPEAKER_01: We see this podcast as everything that people won't share on social media.
1:04
SPEAKER_01: We don't give a fuck about highlight reels or proven frameworks.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: We love getting in the weeds, asking the tough questions, and doing the work to create a life and career we love, all while committing to ourselves and our personal growth.
1:17
SPEAKER_01: Because only through that lens can we truly create a lifestyle that feels good from the inside out.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Curiously Guided podcast.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: Are you ready to trust the nudge and let curiosity guide the way?
1:30
SPEAKER_00: Because we're excited to shake shit up and live outside the box with you.
1:35
SPEAKER_01: Okay, welcome back, friends.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: We are at the final episode of Curiously Guided season four.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: Right now, this is our 80th episode, I think, which is wild to even wrap my head around.
1:48
SPEAKER_01: I can't believe we've been doing this for that long, but it doesn't feel like that long.
1:52
SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, we always close down every season by kind of taking a moment to practice what we preach and zoom out a little bit, take a moment of stillness, kind of figure out, uh, you know, just reflect a bit on what we've covered and think a bit about where we're going from here.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: So this episode will be a little bit more off the cuff than maybe you guys are used to from us.
2:14
SPEAKER_01: Mariah and I really just kind of want to share a bit more about our behind the scenes and um a little bit more conversational style.
2:21
SPEAKER_01: So um if that sounds up your alley, stick around.
2:24
SPEAKER_01: I think this will be a good one.
2:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, right before we press record, Mariah and I kind of took a look through the episodes that we um shot this season and we were just laughing.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: Like we literally are this may sound a bit selfish, but like we are shooting this podcast for ourselves.
2:42
SPEAKER_01: And the episode titles really reflect the season of life that we're both in and the things that we're thinking about and our curiosities and struggles.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: And so I was really kind of shocked as we were going back and reviewing them about how far I have personally come in this past season and how um some of the topics that we covered were things that I personally was really working through, and I think Mariah was as well.
3:04
SPEAKER_01: So we started off this season by shooting um, you know, our big aha moment in our break between season three and season four was that we really wanted this podcast to be the intersection of where the outer work meets the inner work.
3:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, one thing when we're off cam off camera, off record, whatever, that Mariah and I constantly talk about is the lack of transparency and real stories that are out there in the business world.
3:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, we um there's a lack of relatability.
3:35
SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: People are not relatable.
3:38
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
3:39
SPEAKER_01: You know, there's a lot of how-tos and tactics, and um, you know, these are the 10-step formulas for this, that, and the other.
3:47
SPEAKER_01: And that you, you know, there's no shortage of that.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: And there is a time and a place for that, absolutely.
3:53
SPEAKER_01: But the intention of this podcast is not to be that.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: So we have actually turned down a lot of pitches that are let me teach you my nine-step framework or whatever, because we really want this podcast to be what we were craving when we started it, which is real honest conversations about the human side of this.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: You know, this is a it takes a lot out of you to run your own business.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: And I get frustrated when all I'm hearing online is wins and successes and million dollars, and there's no context.
4:25
SPEAKER_01: Nobody is giving me the, oh yeah, but I didn't sleep for six months straight, and then I was questioning my whole identity, you know.
4:32
SPEAKER_01: So we started this podcast with a desire to share more of that side of things.
4:38
SPEAKER_01: And what I'm particularly curious about is how people are showing up for themselves.
4:44
SPEAKER_01: I think the big lesson from season three was we were interviewing all of these really top performers, and I was blown away at how they filled their own cup, they nourished themselves first, they trusted their own curiosity, despite what people were telling them was possible and not possible.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: And that's what led to the magic.
5:03
SPEAKER_01: And so I am fascinated.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: I want to know what you are doing to set yourself up for success?
5:08
SPEAKER_01: And then how does that trickle over into the work that you feel called to do, right?
5:12
SPEAKER_01: And so this season was absolutely a continuation of that conversation of how are we bringing in our own spirits into the work that we do every single day?
5:22
SPEAKER_01: And I really, without even trying, that kind of came through.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: You know, we actually shot some episodes before we even realized that was um Brendan's episode as a good example.
5:32
SPEAKER_01: We shot that before we had this realization in his whole episode of where drop shipping meets stoicism, you know, is like that perfect blend of outer work and inner work.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: So that's absolutely the theme that has come through from my perspective this season.
5:46
SPEAKER_01: But what do you think, and Raya?
5:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, what were your takeaways as we went through those episodes?
5:50
SPEAKER_00: It's funny because I said when we weren't recording, it's like I was looking at the titles of the episodes and I'm laughing because I was like, wow, I would click on all of these.
6:00
SPEAKER_00: Like all of these are so aligned with like what I'm interested in.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: So I'm glad that I feel that way.
6:08
SPEAKER_00: I feel like a lot of podcast hosts maybe can't say that about some of their episodes, where it's like, I feel like this podcast truly is like we started it as a passion project.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: We're wrapping up season four.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: It continues to be a passion project.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: Like we get so much out of these conversations and just like connecting with people and seeing the behind the scenes of, like we said, combining the inner work with the outer work, because that's truly deep down what we believe is the difference between somebody running a business in a way that doesn't feel good and somebody that runs a business in a way that feels sustainable, especially in this past year, like towards the end of 2023 and the beginning of 2024, I have seen a lot of people fizzle out of the online business world and a lot of people getting jobs or like getting side hustles and stuff like that.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: But it just goes to show you that, like, if you're going to do this, it comes back to the very first episode of this season.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: Business is spiritual.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: If you are going to do this in a way that feels good, aligned, and sustainable for you in the long run, you have to be willing to do the inner work to do that.
7:21
SPEAKER_00: And sometimes that means saying, hey, in this season, I actually I actually need more consistency.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean that like you're taking a lighter to your passions and you're never gonna fulfill your life's purpose because in this season we talked about like your life's purpose isn't what you do, it's who you be.
7:38
SPEAKER_00: And so that's a really good episode.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: Go back and listen to that one.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: I really enjoyed re-listening to that one, but essentially it just goes to show you that like there's so many layers to it.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: It's not about like creating Instagram reels and TikToks to making a fuck ton of money.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: Like that's not deep enough for the people that call themselves or align with like intentional business owners, which is a thing that I think that we kind of feel really close to.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: And so this podcast, I like the fact that like moving forward in season five, which if you were wondering if the podcast is going to keep going, spoiler alert, of course it is, we're fucking obsessed with it.
8:20
SPEAKER_00: But moving forward, I think we're really trying to focus less on like the business-only strategy type episodes.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: We did have, you know, a couple in previous seasons.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: It's not like we like Shay said, have ever been like a really hard framework podcast, but we really want to focus more on like the curiosity, the creativity, the spirituality, and like the journey of coming home to yourself and how your business reflects that.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: Because Shay's right, like we do get a lot of people that are like, hey, we'd love to come on the podcast, but their pitch ideas are very businessy.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying that they don't have something great to offer the world.
8:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that the conversation would be absolutely fantastic, but like we want to be really clear and really focused on like this whole coming home to yourself and how business reflects that, how the intersection of business and life and passion and soul kind of come and merge and meet together because that's the juice in whatever way that looks like for you.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
9:17
SPEAKER_00: So, like, we just also wanted to take a second and say thank you.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for everybody reaching out.
9:23
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for all of the DMs that we're getting.
9:25
SPEAKER_00: Literally, like, I have chills and I feel like I kind of want to cry for a second.
9:28
SPEAKER_00: But like all of the positive reviews and just your feedback on like these episodes, we get DMs and comments and stuff like that.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: And it's wild because people are literally reflecting back exactly why we created this podcast.
9:43
SPEAKER_00: Like, I literally just got a message last night that was like, Thank you so much for like creating a podcast that makes me feel safe, seen and like is relatable.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: And me and Sharon were like, oh my God, like that's why we do this.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole like undercurrent of these conversations.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: We just want to have we we started this because we were tired of feeling alone.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: We were tired of feeling in asilo.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: We were tired of feeling like, fuck man, it looks like everybody else is out here killing it and I'm not, or my day-to-day doesn't look like how everybody else's seems to, when really we were having conversations behind the scenes and we were like, actually, we're all dealing with the same ship, and nobody's fucking talking about it on social media.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: And so, like, that's why we wanted to create this podcast and we really enjoy the conversations where people are willing to be vulnerable and like be transparent and be like, yo, what was your where was your mind at?
10:40
SPEAKER_00: Where was your heart at?
10:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, how was that decision?
10:42
SPEAKER_00: And what's interesting because Shay was like, Well, what do you think like the the golden thread of like these conversations were?
10:49
SPEAKER_00: And I started laughing.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, all these bitches be curiously guided.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: And that's fucking cool.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: Like it's just so cool to reflect and to see that because like during the season, me and Shay are not looking and like ultra strategizing things.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: That's why we take breaks in between seasons so we can kind of recoup, reflect, and take the space that we need and kind of plan out our intention for the next season.
11:13
SPEAKER_00: But during the season, I don't want to say we're winging it, but we fucking wing it.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: Like we kind of just are just like, hey, here's our focus, here's our north star, does this align?
11:22
SPEAKER_00: And so it's cool to see that even though we're not quote unquote strategizing it and having like all these goals for the podcast, like we're still staying aligned with our mission for the podcast.
11:35
SPEAKER_00: So that's really cool.
11:36
SPEAKER_00: I want to say thank you to all of you guys listening.
11:39
SPEAKER_00: Thank you when you guys share these episodes with people.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: It literally means everything to us.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I just wanted to take a second and say thank you.
11:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
11:48
SPEAKER_01: That was great.
11:48
SPEAKER_01: Um, another thing I wanted to touch on before we shift to like future thinking is just um I'll share a few of my big takeaways from the seasons from specific episodes, and then I'll kind of ping that over to you.
12:01
SPEAKER_01: But one thing that I was really struck by, Mariah and I shot an episode right in the middle of the season.
12:08
SPEAKER_01: It was about um getting out of stuck and how to pivot.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: And that conversation was very much a reflection of where I was in my life.
12:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, I was in a really low place.
12:19
SPEAKER_01: I was really feeling stuck.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: And it's cool to think back about that episode was a big pivot moment for me.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: I kind of realized around that time and through shooting that episode, you know, life is tough.
12:32
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna throw a lot of responsibility at you.
12:34
SPEAKER_01: And it's really on me to kind of claim joy and claim, claim play in my life and make space for it because I was at a point where just everything was feeling like a chore.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I'm sitting here now, however many months later, I'm uh I I've shared on the podcast before my personal dream is that I want to be a millennial snowbird.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: I really like where I grew up.
12:57
SPEAKER_01: I own a house there, I love it, but I in the winter it just sucks my soul.
13:02
SPEAKER_01: So my husband and I have always wanted to travel in the winter, and we've done it a few times, but we had taken a few years off due to some, you know, um, stuff going on in our personal life and health issues.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: But this year, after that episode, I kind of realized like we're gonna fucking do it.
13:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, even though it feels scary and even though there's some risks, and we booked the trip, and now I'm here in Mexico City and I'll be here through the rest of winter, and I'm a little tan and I'm feeling energized, and I have all this clarity and I'm feeling more calm and more joy on the day-to-day.
13:33
SPEAKER_01: And it was just, even though at the time it felt scary and uncertain, I remember in that episode, I was just like, the only things are gonna change, the only way things are gonna change is if I change.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: And even though it feels risky and scary to kind of take this big leap and do this thing, it's on me.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: I gotta do it.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: I gotta grab joy where I can in this life.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: And so I'm feeling proud of myself for a being honest.
13:58
SPEAKER_01: It's really hard to be honest when you're in a low place because it's hard to admit it.
14:01
SPEAKER_01: That's really scary.
14:02
SPEAKER_01: And then what comes next?
14:05
SPEAKER_01: The baby steps, you know, and literally for me, it was asking myself, what do you want?
14:09
SPEAKER_01: Shea, what do you fucking want?
14:10
SPEAKER_01: What would bring you joy?
14:11
SPEAKER_01: Okay, do it.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: And so I that episode, all of them are for me and you in a way, but um, it was really a big shift for me.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: And I'm feeling happy here.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of nice to compare how I was feeling then to now.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then another thing I wanted to share, we did my goal.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: This is a preview.
14:32
SPEAKER_01: So moving forward, I want to bring in more quote unquote experts or people that are like so deep into the study of something, like they've followed their curiosity down this rabbit hole of this particular topic.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: And this season, just kind of like Mariah was saying, naturally, we had um two MD doctors and then one um I don't know how we would describe Karine, but she's very much trained in this space as well.
14:57
SPEAKER_01: In a row, we shot three episodes that were all around stress, resilience, nervous system capacity.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: And at the time, that was really something I was struggling with was I have big goals for myself, I see big vision, but right now current Shay doesn't feel like she has the capacity for these big things.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: And so that those three episodes almost built on themselves.
15:21
SPEAKER_01: And like there was this awesome story that came through.
15:24
SPEAKER_01: And I had all of these wonderful revelations around what does um capacity even mean?
15:29
SPEAKER_01: What does resilience even mean?
15:31
SPEAKER_01: I had awesome reframes during all of those, and it really has helped me.
15:36
SPEAKER_01: Like I am now feeling like I'm in a more spacious place.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: So I love talking to people like Anu that, you know, have dedicated their whole life, you know, they know the science and they're in the mainstream, and they are also connected with curiosity and play, and they're bringing those two things together.
15:54
SPEAKER_01: And it's so brave and exciting.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: And it was really fun to talk with her about.
15:58
SPEAKER_01: I did a lot of inner child work this season, and she has such an awesome grounded way of thinking about that and perspective on that.
16:06
SPEAKER_01: And so I don't know, those three episodes, the fact that they kind of naturally came together and all had an awesome through line.
16:14
SPEAKER_01: I was really like kind of blown away by because like Mariah is saying, we we don't overly strategize.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: And so, um, me personally, I took a lot away from those.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: How about you?
16:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought that it was pretty wild that they built on themselves in the way that they did.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: And we were like, you can hear it in the episode.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: We're like, what?
16:33
SPEAKER_00: This built on that, and we're just like laughing like a bunch of doofuses.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, so it's it's hard for me to pick the ones that really stand out because I find that I have two sides to me, the deeply strategy side and the deeply energetic side.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: And it's funny because if you know one part of me, sometimes you're surprised that there's like this other part of me.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: Like the people that know like the energetic spiritual side are like, you do what for work?
17:03
SPEAKER_00: And then the people that know like my deeply like strategic side are like you do a grounding meditation, like you do what, you like what?
17:12
SPEAKER_00: And so it's hard because like the different episodes fill up different facets of like my interests.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: So obviously the human design episodes are very close to my heart because I'm fucking obsessed with it.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: But if I had to choose gun to the head, Mariah, choose two episodes.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: I would say the episode number shoot 69 with Maggie finding your deeper why and how it impacts everything.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: I that conversation left an imprint on me.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: Maggie was an amazing guest, and I love the fact that we could fucking wing it, like wing it in terms of like I was throwing questions at her, and we were like dissecting live different perspectives and just like, yeah, but what if you think about it like this?
17:57
SPEAKER_00: And what if you think about it like that?
17:58
SPEAKER_00: And like just how much joy and knowledge and presence she brought to that conversation.
18:04
SPEAKER_00: I remember listening back, and it's funny because every time, you know, we record the interviews and then both of us listen back to them and I create the show notes.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: And every time I listen back, there's medicine that I need in that moment.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: And I remember like having to pause that episode and like take a second and like breathe because like it just was exactly what I needed.
18:23
SPEAKER_00: And then the other episode was a really recent one, episode 78, with Natasha tapping into unlimited possibilities.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: And I think it's the same thing, like the imprint that that conversation left on me.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: I just fucking love the way that Natasha shows up.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: It is a breath of fresh air to see somebody like she's super wise and has so much wisdom and can like her perspective can pierce through things.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: And also she'll be like, wait, what did you say?
18:56
SPEAKER_00: Can you re-ask that?
18:57
SPEAKER_00: I just need like a fucking hot minute.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: And she takes up space and she asks for what she needs.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: And it's just like the perfect example.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: And I literally like have to try to not message her every single day and just be like, you being you is just really inspiring to me.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: Because like that's just it's it's truly, truly how I feel.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like those are the episodes that like left a deeper imprint.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
19:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh, that's great.
19:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I was hoping that you would bring up Natasha because that was such an awesome way to kind of she was our last.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we'll have one more guest, which is amazing.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, we got into gene keys as well.
19:38
SPEAKER_01: So that was something like to show Mariah and I's evolution, you know, we're into human design, as y'all know, and then we we're craving more depth, just as her and I are wont to do.
19:50
SPEAKER_01: And so we kind of have Mariah's gone down it deeper than I have.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: We found gene keys, and then we found Maria, who is an expert in gene keys.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: So that was really neat to kind of take this to the next level in that way, and a nice way to wrap up this season, I think.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, we were just really blessed and honored by the guests, all of the guests that came on this season, you know, I'm thinking back, and there were takeaways of all varieties from every single episode that Mariah and I have both implemented in our lives and our businesses.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: So feeling so grateful for that.
20:22
SPEAKER_01: And also one thing, you know, not to toot our own horn, but one piece of feedback we're getting a lot from our guests is that they really love coming on this podcast.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: You know, they love we start with a grounding meditation that we've shared with you guys, but we end every single episode with our guests saying, Wow, this was a different experience.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: Nobody's really allowed me the space to kind of share about who I be and what this side of my life looks like.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: And so getting the positive feedback from our guests as well and seeing them being excited, excited to share clips from the episode has been very um validating for me.
20:59
SPEAKER_01: It kind of has been like signals that we're heading in the right direction.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I've just absolutely appreciated everyone that's taken the time and um like blessed us with their genius on this podcast this season and all seasons, but just feels like it's getting better and better.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, let's kind of pivot a bit and talk about where we're heading.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, we haven't really had a ton of time to take a break and simmer, like Mariah said, but like I shared earlier, I have this desire.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh I really want to reach out to people that I would consider like hard to get, people that are a bit out of my normal network.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: I want to kind of shoot a bit higher.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: And there's these two Harvard researchers that I like have on my vision board that I want to get on.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: But we're gonna try to start um pitching people, at least I am, that are really down their own rabbit holes of curiosity.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: And they've built a whole career or whatever it is or business around.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: This thing that they feel so deeply passionate about, and they are just like at the depths of it.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: And um, I want to talk more with those people and I want to really kind of curate around, you know, topics we care about, but people that are truly exploring their curiosity at like the highest level.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: And so my goal is to be a little bit more bold, bring in my audaciousness and kind of pitch a little bit higher and continue to like elevate the not even elevate, but just continue this awesome sequence of guests that we've had on.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously continuing this journey of where the inner work meets the outer work, um, and um kind of developing that idea even more around spirit.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: You know, I've seen um there's kind of this backlash online right now about like business and spirit aren't related and they aren't together.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: But like one thing whoever says that should be sent to me.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Talk to me.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: Let's let's have a conversation about though.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: Maybe like if that's right for you, that's right for you.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: There's Mariah and I were laughing yesterday.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: There's we truly believe there's no one blanket that's like a right solution for everybody.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: But what I feel fired up about is people that are being told, no, you can't do your dreams, you can't do this, this is not possible.
23:13
SPEAKER_01: And they're like, no, but I'm curious about it, and I'm just gonna try it anyway, and I don't know where it's gonna lead, but we'll see.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: Like that energy is the most life-giving energy for me.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: And I want to just keep finding people that are on that same wavelength, that are kind of like, hey, I'm here, I have this awesome life, I have this genius I want to share with the world, and it's never been done before, and I got to figure out how it's done.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: And so I know that that everybody's puzzle piece looks different, but I think when we can continue to share those stories of people that are breaking the mold, they're not necessarily listening when people tell them it's not possible, they're trusting themselves and their own curiosity.
23:53
SPEAKER_01: Like that is the story I want to share and develop over and over and over again.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of where I'm hoping to take the podcast next season.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: What are you feeling about the future, Mariah?
24:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like that.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: And I also like, okay, so I don't know if we've shared this on the podcast.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: I think we have, but essentially I pulled a human design chart for the podcast itself.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: And it is a manifesting generator.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: So, like, if you're like we will continue moving forward to have like a sprinkle of different topics and like different, different things because I love that perspective and I kind of want to marry it with, and it it kind of like is similar, but like showcasing people running businesses in a way that are different.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: That's what I that's what fucking lights me up, man.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: That's like the unlimited possibilities, and I think that that's what we don't see a lot of is like how are you structuring your business?
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Like, how is this working with your lifestyle?
24:49
SPEAKER_00: How are you figuring out both about who you are and how does that translate into your business?
24:57
SPEAKER_00: Like seeing examples of that and like people doing business differently, even if it might not look different on the outside, different on the inside is fucking fascinating to me.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: Like this lifestyle business model, not like lifestyle marketing of like hype marketing and like look at all the cool things I have, blah, blah, blah.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: Not that, but like creating a business that supports the lifestyle instead of having to build your lifestyle around the business that you create.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: It's examples like that that just open up my field of possibility like no other.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: Like conversations that me and Shay have off of the mic, where it's like, hey, I know this girl that's selling X, Y, and Z, and she's made she made a million dollars in two years.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: It's like, wait, what?
25:42
SPEAKER_00: Just like the crazy stories that just remind us that like you can do what you really want to do.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: And I think that that does pair with like the experts in their field that have gone down this rabbit hole.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think that it's all interconnected.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: And I would like to have maybe a couple more spiritual episodes on here.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: I have some ideas, I'm not gonna share them yet, but like just diving into like spiritual aspects of things, but in a grounded way.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of the interesting thing about guests is like, I don't want to pitch just anybody and anything.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: I really want to take the time to be able to deep dive into their perspective and see if we can have like a grounded conversation about things.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, because I think that that's important to be able to hang out in the neutral, to hang out in the gray instead of hang out in like these black and white.
26:30
SPEAKER_00: It has to be this way or that way.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited to see kind of like what next season looks like.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: It's so funny because as we're talking about this, we have not planned out next season.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: We have no fucking idea yet.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: So, like as you guys are listening to this, we're planning it, we're reflecting, we're thinking about it.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: So it's going to be really, really interesting to like see how it all plays out.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: And on that note, please, if y'all have an idea, uh something that it resonates with you, something you'd like to see us explore, or some topic or expert you'd like us to have on, like we mentioned, please DM us.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: We love hearing from you guys.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we're honored and I'm so happy that we're kind of building a community of people who think the way we do.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, this was kind of something that Mariah and I were like, are we the only ones out here feeling like this?
27:16
SPEAKER_01: And the answer is no.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: And so please reach this is a collaboration, absolutely.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: You know, reach out to us, let us know what did you like, what what feels like you want more of.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: And um, we are like the manny gin of this podcast.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: You know, we are open to it and we are exploring constantly and kind of letting it all come together.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: And the other thing I wanted to share this past season, Mariah and I have always done a workshop with every season.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: The first three seasons, it was a live workshop.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: And then this season, we actually took one of our live workshops that was very successful and um put it into an evergreen format where you can get it online.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: And that's one thing Mariah and I have both always bonded over is we love the teaching.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: And you know, I think the design your dream day workshop kind of came out of that.
28:03
SPEAKER_01: It was a way I think I was thinking about like me.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: I've always felt like every time I hear these business how-to's, I'm like, yeah, but that I need to do it in my own way.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: And so these workshops are an opportunity for Mariah and I to kind of like distill our own way, like ways that we've found that are kind of doing business differently.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: And then how so we did one around goal setting this year.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: That was a struggle that I always had with setting smart goals in the way that I thought I was supposed to.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: And so we kind of have developed our own way of doing it and it works for us, or at least it's worked for me.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: And now we've shared that.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: And so we have a few ideas from more workshops that we'd like to host and um kind of create a little library of like how to do business differently, you know, or how at least Shay and Mariah are doing business differently.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: So I hope that we can continue to kind of build that up because we both get a lot of joy around coming up with an idea and coming up with like activities that we can do and then how we can actually share that with the world.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: So that's certainly something that like sits close with my heart and I'm can hoping we can continue to develop in the future.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: So if you guys haven't checked that out already, it's the dream day workshop.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: The link to that is going to be in the show notes below, but also you can just go to curiously guided.com slash dream day.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: It's pretty affordable.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: Tickets are under$50.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: So definitely check that out.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: Like we said, it's the process that we both take ourselves through.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: It's been tested and tried out, and we've done the workshop a couple of times and people seem to love it.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: So definitely check that out.
29:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I do kind of want to add here, like in terms of personal life, like in what are you interested in, Shay?
29:42
SPEAKER_00: Like what is piquing your curiosity and just like who you are right now?
29:49
SPEAKER_01: You know, I've been kind of um, that's a really good question.
29:53
SPEAKER_01: And immediately you asked me about my personal life and I go back to business.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: I have just been reflecting on this idea of now that I'm feeling like I have more capacity, I have more space, I'm really trying to like own my wants and desires.
30:09
SPEAKER_01: I've had these kind of like calls on my heart for a while of like big things that I want, like big things that feel very far away right now.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: And for the longest time, I just shut it down.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, you can't have that, you can't dream that big.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, that's not, you can't hold that.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: And I'm just coming to a place right now of like, I told Mari the other day, like, what if I was a bit more audacious?
30:32
SPEAKER_01: I I had a comedian say it as 1% more monster this year, but what if I just was a little bit more bold?
30:37
SPEAKER_01: And what if I actually claimed these things that I've always wanted, but I've been kind of too scared to claim?
30:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, in in the I'm trying to think about a way to say this that doesn't sound totally maniac.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: And I I so for me as a child, we love maniac.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: We love maniac.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: You guys, as a child, I came out of the womb obsessed with money.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: I love money.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: I always I was the entrepreneur.
31:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean my friends were having carnivals and selling tickets and we were doing lemonade stands.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: And like I like women having money.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: And I I think that and actually, this is a I felt shame kind of bringing it up.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: And I think if you're a woman and you want to stay home and bake bread and do the thing, fucking do it.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: We live in a time where you can do it, but also I had a bit of shame around claiming like, hey, I like work, I like earning money and I like investing and I like um sharing that with other women who feel like it's confusing.
31:34
SPEAKER_01: And and so this year I'm kind of really like, what would it look like if I really stepped into that and like allowed to pop the top off of it?
31:43
SPEAKER_00: Just pop the top off.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, I'm getting closer.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: Every year I get closer and closer, but I've never really owned it because I felt some shame of there's a lot of conflicting stuff.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, I want to live a relaxed life.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: And I don't think that any of this stuff is mutually exclusive.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: I can have a relaxed chill life, but also I like work.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: I like, I feel like I was here to kind of sometimes I go through hustle seasons and like I want to make a bunch of money, so then I can do a lot of cool things with it.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: And I have held myself back from that because it felt a bit like betraying something, like, oh yeah, but I want I want to be relaxed and I want to do blah, blah, blah.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: And that's all great.
32:22
SPEAKER_01: You get to build your business and your life the way you want, but I feel like I'm heading into a season of hustle, and that's okay.
32:29
SPEAKER_01: We don't have to shame hustle, hustle with good intention, I think, can be very powerful.
32:34
SPEAKER_00: And so with awareness.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: With awareness, awareness is the key.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: Right.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: And so I am just like feeling fired up.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling like more things are possible for me than I have ever felt before, and I've got some really huge goals, but um, my word for the year is transformation, and so that's really what I'm focusing on.
32:54
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be a big year for me, and I'm kind of just trying to own it and claim it and like kind of drop the shame that I had around a lot of this stuff because that's who I be.
33:03
SPEAKER_01: So, like for me, like I'm feeling finally like I'm more myself.
33:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm reconnecting with my joy and my play, and I'm not trying to fit in some like gender box or some entrepreneur box or some service.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: You know, some I've just put myself in a few boxes that I'm ready to kind of step out of and uh think a little bit bigger.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm excited for you because I can feel it, just the way that you're talking about it.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure that our listeners can feel it too, where it's like when you start to see that it's possible, or even play with the idea that it's possible.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: It's like one of those, like it's not to me, it's not like butterflies in the gut, it's like butterflies in the heart, where you're just like your chest opens up and it feels expansive, and you're just like, could I fucking do this?
33:51
SPEAKER_00: Could I fucking do what would it look like if I fucking did this?
33:55
SPEAKER_00: And then you start talking about it to people and you notice like the frequency of your voice changes, like there's power behind it, and people can feel it.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited for when you're ready to share it.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: To be honest, guys, she hasn't even told me this shit yet.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: So I have no idea what she's talking about.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm excited to learn more about it.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: Well, same same question for you.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: You share what's what's going on with you.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, okay.
34:23
SPEAKER_00: So I don't think, well, okay.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: Educating.
34:28
SPEAKER_00: I fucking I'm just like, and I I know I've said this on the podcast before, so I don't I don't feel like it's a secret, but like I feel like this year we're moving currently when we're recording this, we're in Tampa, Florida.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: We're about to move back to Buffalo, New York, which surprise, surprise, I don't think that I shared that on the podcast.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: But um so we moved out of Buffalo a year and a half ago, lived on the mountains of North Carolina for a year, and then we were toying with the idea like, hey, do we want to move back to Buffalo?
34:56
SPEAKER_00: And that would have been in November.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, please, Andrew, do not make me go back a for the holiday season.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: I love my family, but I was not ready to go back for the holidays.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, please don't make me go back for the beginning of winter in Buffalo.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: So I I got him to agree to live for three months in Tampa, Florida, for us to just figure it out, get some sun, kind of hang out, and just like same thing like with what we do in between podcasting seasons.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: Me and Andrew have kind of been doing with our lives of just like, what do we want?
35:26
SPEAKER_00: Like, what feels good for us?
35:29
SPEAKER_00: And so it's been interesting to see.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: I had a feeling that we were gonna move back to Buffalo, part of me is like, what do you mean?
35:40
SPEAKER_00: There's so many fun places to explore.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: Are you sure?
35:43
SPEAKER_00: But there's a bigger part of me that is really craving community, really craving like groundedness.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: I really want to educate more.
35:53
SPEAKER_00: It's funny because like when you were talking about as a kid, you were selling tickets to the circus and shit like that.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: And like I had somebody ask me, like, what did you want to do as a kid?
36:01
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I just wanted to like make stuff, and then I like actually thought about it.
36:05
SPEAKER_00: I wanted to be a teacher when I was little, and you know what's really fucking funny?
36:09
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I've ever shared it, shared this with somebody.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: I bounced in between wanting to be a teacher and wanting to be a magazine editor, which is hilarious that my business name is Mariah Magazine, because it's like, although I'm not like editing magazine shit, like it's just so funny how that plays out.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: So I really wanted to be a teacher, but I was afraid of getting in front of people and educating.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: That was my biggest fear, even when I was like 16, 17, 18 years old.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: Once I found out in order to get a teaching degree that you had to teach in front of like, I don't know, higher up authorities in order to get like your whatever, I was like, absolutely not.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: That is not for me.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: I gotta go.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: So it's cool to be able to like really come back and have the space that we've had without social obligations of just like, what do I want?
36:59
SPEAKER_00: And I want community, I want to educate, I want to teach workshops.
37:03
SPEAKER_00: I know that in Buffalo, there isn't a very strong local small business community.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: And all of it, I was joking around with Shay before, all of it is like networking where it's like you have to wear a blouse and a blazer.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: And like, I'm just not, I'm not that.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm currently recording this wearing a fucking squirrel sweatshirt.
37:19
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not the blouse and blazer type.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: I could look good wearing it, but I just that's not me.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: I just want to be comfortable, cool, calm, and collected.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
37:28
SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited to see what happens.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to see if I reach out because there is an association, like the small business association, and I have stalked their online presence to see what is happening.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: And I've compared it to other cities.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: So, like if I compare it to Chicago, for example, the Buffalo chapter has nothing.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: It literally has like financing things and like a legal lawyer, which is super helpful for small business, but like there's no workshops, there's no like advisors, they literally don't have a website.
37:57
SPEAKER_00: Their online presence is basically not known.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: And so I'm like, wait a minute, but I see an example over here in Chicago of what's possible for the exact same association, but a different chapter.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: I was like, what if I can reach out, maybe even volunteer and just see if I can get something going in the online local business community?
38:16
SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like in the past eight years of running this business, I have accumulated so much knowledge and it's sitting in my brain.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: And how I felt before and why I never really I never really worked with local people.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: And the reason was I was like, Buffalo so behind, like they're so behind on so many things.
38:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't have the fucking capacity to sit and take people's hand and walk them through.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Now I feel like I have the capacity.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: Now I have the curiosity and the interest.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: And I also want to show people what's possible in business.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: You don't need a 10-year business plan in order to fucking start an Etsy shop or in order to show up at a farmer's market.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: But if you go to a small business thing, they're gonna be like, what's your 10-year plan?
38:57
SPEAKER_00: That would literally suffocate me.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't have a 10-year plan, I don't have a five-year plan, I don't have a fucking three-month plan.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: That's just how I operate.
39:05
SPEAKER_00: And so I think just like being able to show up and be an example of like, I'm a successful online business owner.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: Let me help other people that want to grow their online presence and educate and maybe consult.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure what that's going to look like.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: I do know that like the price points of local things are a lot lower than the price points in the online world from kind of how I've done market research.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: So it's just, it's gonna be very interesting for me to go in and to have conversations with people in the community, see what they need and see how my skill sets can kind of play in.
39:39
SPEAKER_00: But I'm really excited to dive into the community and see how I can fill a gap.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: Maybe start offering like a local networking thing for small businesses where like you just come in your fucking yoga gear.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we do some breath work, like bringing in the inner work and the outer work in the local community feels really good for me.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: Maybe even hosting like a local retreat where it's like we just fucking get together and hang out and like do essentially like a future visioning meditation.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: Like my local community, it's so separate.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: And like, have we seen in the podcast?
40:13
SPEAKER_00: People are craving more examples of how people are combining them because that's just how we are as humans.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: So long-winded way of saying that's what I am extremely excited for.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: And Andrew, since we've been away, has been messing around with actually baking bread, and so we're moving back to Buffalo.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: We're going to possibly start like a micro bakery, so like baking sourdough bread out of our home.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: And I told Andrew, like, I already have a fucking business, bro.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't, I don't want a whole other ass business, but I'm gonna help him essentially like with website and marketing and like being in a farmer's market feels so fucking fun for me on a Saturday.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: I will gladly do that, have conversations with people.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: He said what he's craving is like the routine and the actual of baking bread and things like that.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: So I think we're gonna be a good combination.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: Nobody at home really knows about all of this yet.
41:04
SPEAKER_00: So y'all are like the first ones to hear it.
41:06
SPEAKER_00: And it's like such a shift.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: Like Andrew used to be a worker at a steel factory.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: And so he left Buffalo as a worker at a steel factory, coming home a sourdough bread baker.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: Like he's been experimenting in the kitchen with this stuff, like a like a true scientist.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: And like it's gonna be really fucking cool to see what happens when we kick off season five and to see like how things are playing out.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I am so excited about the future of the sourdough business myself.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: You guys have put a lot of love and thought and science into the um development of everything this year.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: So I cannot wait to see the future of that.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: I also am craving more in-person and real life business, and I'm sure we'll have so much more to share about that in the next season.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I think that could be a nice place to kind of wrap this up.
41:52
SPEAKER_01: Do you have any other final thoughts or anything you want to share?
41:57
SPEAKER_00: I just want to say thank you.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: And I want to say just like it's the same thing that we say at the at the end of every fucking episode.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: We can do and create a business any fucking way that we want to.
42:11
SPEAKER_00: We really just have to like allow ourselves to experiment, trust the curiosity, and remember that we don't know shit.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: We don't know shit, nobody knows shit.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: We're all out here trying to figure this out.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: Even the people, the experts, they're still trying to figure shit out.
42:28
SPEAKER_00: They're still experimenting, testing, even science.
42:31
SPEAKER_00: We only know what we know because we know it, but we don't know what we don't know.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: So, like, just remember that like there's so much unknown, and you can either let that hold you back or you can let that empower you forward.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Because if there's so much unknown, there's so much untapped possibility.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: So I guess that's that's what I want to say.
42:51
SPEAKER_01: Well said, my friend.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: That was beautiful.
42:54
SPEAKER_01: What a way to wrap it up.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: All right, you guys, thank you for hanging out with us.
42:58
SPEAKER_01: I think we're actually ready to close this episode down.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: Just like Mariah said, remember, you truly do have the power to create whatever the fuck you want.
43:06
SPEAKER_01: As long as you follow the nudge, ask questions, and let curiosity guide the way, you're gonna be in good shape and know that you'll always have friends here to kind of be on the journey with.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: We'll see you guys in the next season.
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