Latest / The Living Waters Podcast / Ep. 213 - What It Actually Means to Have Purpose in Life

Transcript

Ep. 213 - What It Actually Means to Have Purpose in Life · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:05
  Emeal Zwayne: And look when you're living with God himself as your purpose.
• 1:09
  Emeal Zwayne: It allows you the ability to endure the unthinkable.
• 1:14
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, think of Paul's heart, right Again, driven not only to know his maker, be known by his maker, but make his maker known.
• 1:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Listen to what he said to the Ephesians, to the Ephesian elders, in Acts 20, 22 to 24.
• 1:25
  Emeal Zwayne: He said and see, now I go bound in the spirit to Jerusalem, not knowing the things that will happen to me there, except he's saying I don't know what's going to go on, except I know this the Holy Spirit testifies in every city, saying that chains and tribulations await me.
• 1:45
  Emeal Zwayne: So he didn't know what was going to happen.
• 1:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know about any good stuff, but I know this I got chains coming, I got tribulation coming.
• 1:52
  Emeal Zwayne: And then he says this but none of these things move me.
• 1:59
  Emeal Zwayne: What a focus, yeah, I mean, but that in and of itself, like we could spend an hour just talking on that.
• 2:07
  Emeal Zwayne: None of these things move me.
• 2:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Because ultimately that's what it comes down to, right, like what I said earlier staying our course, not being moved, swayed by oh, my car broke down.
• 2:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I have this bill I got to pay.
• 2:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, these people don't like me.
• 2:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, they unfriended me.
• 2:20
  Emeal Zwayne: None of these things move me.
• 2:22
  Emeal Zwayne: What things that you're going to be persecuted.
• 2:24
  Emeal Zwayne: You got chains coming, or do I count my life dear to myself?
• 2:30
  Emeal Zwayne: That's the key.
• 2:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Welcome to the Living Waters podcast.
• 2:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Name that movie from that line game where we try to name that movie from that line these are all clean movies.
• 2:47
  Oscar Navarro: I'm assuming.
• 2:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's the caveat, friends, this is not endorsing any of these movies.
• 2:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Some of them we may have seen, may have not.
• 2:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Maybe if we saw them, it was in the best past.
• 2:58
  Emeal Zwayne: If we've seen some of them today, maybe we use Clear Player, vidangel or something like that.
• 3:02
  Emeal Zwayne: But anyways, here are some of the most memorable movie lines of all time.
• 3:06
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm normally pretty good at this Name, that movie.
• 3:10
  Ray Comfort: So Been who.
• 3:13
  Emeal Zwayne: I should have expected that right.
• 3:14
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, here we go.
• 3:16
  Emeal Zwayne: So your talent is a chance.
• 3:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, oscar, go on.
• 3:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you look at my screen?
• 3:24
  Emeal Zwayne: I promise Okay.
• 3:26
  Ray Comfort: Boy.
• 3:27
  Ray Comfort: I so wanted to watch that movie because I so identified with it, but it was dirty.
• 3:30
  Ray Comfort: Was it dirty?
• 3:31
  Ray Comfort: One, Ray, we got to get you on VidAngel and Clear Player.
• 3:33
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I'd really like that.
• 3:33
  Ray Comfort: I'd love to watch Dumb and Dumb, Seriously Well you know that scene, mark.
• 3:36
  Emeal Zwayne: You remember that scene right, and we were talking about it recently.
• 3:38
  Emeal Zwayne: It was he.
• 3:40
  Emeal Zwayne: He's this nerdy guy and he comes as a beautiful girl and he's like.
• 3:42
  Emeal Zwayne: I need you to let me know I drove all this way.
• 3:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Is there a chance?
• 3:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Like he's like, like one in a hundred.
• 3:46
  Emeal Zwayne: She goes more like one in a million.
• 3:48
  Emeal Zwayne: And then he goes Sawyer's saying there's a chance.
• 3:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, here we go.
• 3:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm going to make him enough that he can refuse oh the Godfellas Woo?
• 4:02
  Ray Comfort: I never seen it.
• 4:02
  Emeal Zwayne: I never seen it.
• 4:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I've never seen it either.
• 4:05
  Ray Comfort: I've never seen it, but I remembered you and how you spoke on that.
• 4:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I told you, there's not one cussword in that movie, not one.
• 4:11
  Mark Spence: I'm actually told there's not one cussword in that movie.
• 4:13
  Ray Comfort: Are you serious For real?
• 4:14
  Ray Comfort: How many is there?
• 4:15
  Ray Comfort: What?
• 4:17
  Mark Spence: I've never seen it, but I'm told not one.
• 4:18
  Mark Spence: It's a series, it's a series.
• 4:19
  Oscar Navarro: It's a series, and that was Marlon.
• 4:21
  Ray Comfort: Brando by the way, it's a series of 200 cusswords.
• 4:23
  Ray Comfort: It's not one enough.
• 4:25
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a series and it's believed to be one of the best ever, is what they say.
• 4:28
  Ray Comfort: I mean, it's one of the kinds of awards.
• 4:29
  Ray Comfort: It's horribly vicious, isn't it?
• 4:30
  Emeal Zwayne: But the acting, I think, makes it, oh yeah.
• 4:32
  Ray Comfort: Brando was a great actor.
• 4:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, here's another one.
• 4:35
  Emeal Zwayne: You're killing me, smalls Sandlot, wow.
• 4:38
  Oscar Navarro: That's a good movie.
• 4:39
  Oscar Navarro: You've seen that Oscar?
• 4:40
  Oscar Navarro: I mean, I haven't seen it in a really long time.
• 4:42
  Oscar Navarro: Actually, I liked it as a kid.
• 4:44
  Oscar Navarro: I am just now remembering we put it on for our kids and it was one of the ones.
• 4:47
  Oscar Navarro: We ended up taking off pretty quick.
• 4:49
  Oscar Navarro: We got 20 minutes into it, oh yeah, I know you can get it.
• 4:53
  Ray Comfort: We got 20 minutes into it.
• 4:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Come on, Ray Mark, get into this Oscar's whipping, you guys.
• 4:56
  Ray Comfort: Hey, I've just got to say it we have lives.
• 4:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, you're right.
• 4:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Good point.
• 4:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, here we go.
• 5:03
  Emeal Zwayne: My mama always said, dude, stop it.
• 5:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you seriously not reading my comments?
• 5:09
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm not looking at your screen.
• 5:10
  Emeal Zwayne: You're insane.
• 5:12
  Emeal Zwayne: No, that one's a no-brainer, that one doesn't matter what was it that one's a no-brainer?
• 5:14
  Emeal Zwayne: But I just said my mama and the way you said You're terrible for us.
• 5:19
  Emeal Zwayne: No, I'm so good.
• 5:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's what it is, but she got it, it's about a gump, right?
• 5:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's right, tom Hanks.
• 5:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, okay, here's another one.
• 5:26
  Ray Comfort: I watched that on Clear Play.
• 5:27
  Emeal Zwayne: That's good.
• 5:28
  Emeal Zwayne: That's one of the most brilliant movies.
• 5:29
  Emeal Zwayne: We watched it as a family on Vin Ange, I think and it was amazing.
• 5:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, here we go, you can't handle the truth.
• 5:37
  Oscar Navarro: Good film no, oh, it's Nicholas K, no, jack Nicholson.
• 5:43
  Oscar Navarro: Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise, and the movie is called A Fugit.
• 5:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Man Wow 1992.
• 5:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Good job Okay.
• 5:55
  Emeal Zwayne: With great power comes great response.
• 5:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Spider-man.
• 5:59
  Emeal Zwayne: That was Spider-Man, spider-man, yeah.
• 6:04
  Oscar Navarro: Okay.
• 6:04
  Oscar Navarro: What's crazy is I don't have a single Bible verse memorized.
• 6:07
  Oscar Navarro: Okay.
• 6:08
  Emeal Zwayne: If Ray doesn't get this, I'm disassociating from him forever.
• 6:12
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a wonderful life.
• 6:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Wait, are you kidding me right now?
• 6:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Every time a bell rings, an angel gets its way.
• 6:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you serious?
• 6:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, what it's a wonderful life.
• 6:22
  Ray Comfort: Look, I move in realms you guys just go out and stuff Ray Comfort.
• 6:26
  Ray Comfort: How did you do that?
• 6:27
  Ray Comfort: That was insane that was good looks.
• 6:30
  Emeal Zwayne: You meant like that yes, yeah, right, let's scale again.
• 6:33
  Oscar Navarro: I've never witnessed a miracle that was pretty crazy.
• 6:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, it's the only movies I've ever watched, all right, other than Ben Hur.
• 6:42
  Ray Comfort: Actually, you know, I watch a lot of old black and white movies.
• 6:45
  Ray Comfort: I mean literally hundreds or even thousands of them.
• 6:47
  Ray Comfort: I've seen every black and white movie.
• 6:50
  Emeal Zwayne: I love black and white movies they were clean, wholesome they're very colorful, all right.
• 6:55
  Mark Spence: Speaking of that, do you have a colorblind friend of mine?
• 6:58
  Mark Spence: Colorblind friend of mine I apologize who insists that apples are yellow?
• 7:04
  Mark Spence: Stop it Really.
• 7:05
  Mark Spence: It's bananas.
• 7:06
  Mark Spence: That's ridiculous.
• 7:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Good one.
• 7:09
  Ray Comfort: Marquis.
• 7:10
  Ray Comfort: Okay, I wouldn't say that That'll do pig.
• 7:14
  Ray Comfort: Oh, that's from Babe.
• 7:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, I think you'd get that one right, Wonderful.
• 7:18
  Ray Comfort: I love that movie.
• 7:19
  Ray Comfort: Don't move on, just talk about Babe.
• 7:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh seriously, it wasn't Babe Cool.
• 7:24
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I watched it five times and I normally don't watch movies more than 10 times with Ben Hur.
• 7:27
  Ray Comfort: But I really really enjoyed that because there's something spiritual about it.
• 7:32
  Ray Comfort: It's foolish things to confound them.
• 7:34
  Ray Comfort: Why is all the animals talking?
• 7:35
  Ray Comfort: It's a great movie.
• 7:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, the scenery was heartwarming to the whole farm setting and I think it was the first movie where they incorporated animals with moving mouths.
• 7:45
  Ray Comfort: Actually, I think they trained them to do that.
• 7:48
  Ray Comfort: No, no, and it almost carries the gospel in it, that stupid pig doing something wonderful at the end that stopped the mouths of all the markers.
• 7:54
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it was beautiful.
• 7:55
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, oscar are you not seeing it?
• 7:57
  Emeal Zwayne: No, I'm not, I'm not.
• 7:57
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm gonna watch you with your kids.
• 7:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Babe, here we go, babe, you shall not pass.
• 8:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, lord of the Rings.
• 8:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, lord of the Rings.
• 8:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, never saw it.
• 8:06
  Emeal Zwayne: I could have been a contender.
• 8:09
  Ray Comfort: Oh um Brockey.
• 8:12
  Ray Comfort: No, no the contender, it was a waterfront guy.
• 8:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, the waterfront.
• 8:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, marlon Brando, another Marlon Brando, okay here's another.
• 8:20
  Emeal Zwayne: This is one of the most famous ones, go ahead.
• 8:24
  Ray Comfort: Make my day.
• 8:25
  Ray Comfort: Dirty Harry.
• 8:26
  Ray Comfort: Clint Eastwood, dirty Harry.
• 8:28
  Emeal Zwayne: I swear to say Dirty Harry, sudden impact.
• 8:31
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys gotta get out more.
• 8:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Wait, it was sudden impact, yeah.
• 8:34
  Ray Comfort: I've never seen it, dirty Harry.
• 8:35
  Emeal Zwayne: There's no place like home.
• 8:37
  Emeal Zwayne: There's no place like home, oh uh, what's it called the wizard the Wizard of Oz.
• 8:42
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, wizard of Oz, julie Gardlin.
• 8:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay.
• 8:45
  Ray Comfort: I've seen this somewhere over the rainbow.
• 8:47
  Ray Comfort: That guy with the ukulele, you sent it last night.
• 8:50
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, izzy.
• 8:51
  Ray Comfort: 1.3 billion views.
• 8:53
  Emeal Zwayne: I know he passed away.
• 8:54
  Emeal Zwayne: His voice is amazing.
• 8:55
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, he was a little big.
• 8:56
  Ray Comfort: That's the problem, poor guy.
• 8:58
  Ray Comfort: But yeah, just the first time I ever heard it, he brought tears to my eyes.
• 9:01
  Ray Comfort: It's just beautiful.
• 9:02
  Ray Comfort: What's it called?
• 9:03
  Ray Comfort: Somewhere over the rainbow by the guy?
• 9:05
  Emeal Zwayne: with the ukulele, izzy.
• 9:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, okay, mark, you better get this one.
• 9:08
  Ray Comfort: Izzy.
• 9:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Izzy, izzy, izzy.
• 9:11
  Emeal Zwayne: I've had people call me Izzy.
• 9:12
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, here we go.
• 9:15
  Ray Comfort: How many is?
• 9:15
  Emeal Zwayne: there 3 trillion.
• 9:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, here we go.
• 9:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Those eggs were a lie, Steve A lie.
• 9:22
  Emeal Zwayne: They gave me no nutrients Nacho.
• 9:24
  Emeal Zwayne: D'ivres.
• 9:25
  Emeal Zwayne: They gave me no nutrients.
• 9:28
  Mark Spence: That is a funny movie that is hilarious.
• 9:31
  Ray Comfort: One more, okay, 3 Amigos.
• 9:32
  Ray Comfort: My precious, oh, that's the Lord of the.
• 9:34
  Mark Spence: Rings.
• 9:34
  Mark Spence: I never saw it.
• 9:35
  Mark Spence: Okay, here's one.
• 9:35
  Mark Spence: You're crazy, here's one you guys have to know.
• 9:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, I went to the movie theater.
• 9:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I paid for a ticket.
• 9:41
  Mark Spence: I just I'm looking.
• 9:42
  Mark Spence: This is an opportunity to have a 3-hour nap when I'm on a trip, 3-hour nap when I have kids.
• 9:47
  Oscar Navarro: The movie theater version is 2 hours and 47 minutes yeah.
• 9:50
  Emeal Zwayne: It was filmed in New Zealand, Mac.
• 9:51
  Emeal Zwayne: He just allowed me to keep sleeping and by the way it was colorized.
• 9:54
  Ray Comfort: It was deceitful.
• 9:55
  Ray Comfort: Everyone goes to New Zealand because the scene was just so incredible, I know but that movie was colorized and everything you see in New Zealand, oh.
• 10:02
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, it's just it's.
• 10:02
  Oscar Navarro: I'm actually in the middle of rereading, lord of the Rings right now.
• 10:06
  Oscar Navarro: Really why?
• 10:06
  Oscar Navarro: Okay, it's so good.
• 10:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Listen, this is iconic here, ready, my name is Maximus.
• 10:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Glad to hear it.
• 10:11
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm the Army's of the North, general of the Felix legions, loyal servant to the true Emperor, marcus Aurelius, father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife, and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
• 10:25
  Mark Spence: You butchered that by now I actually think that was pretty good.
• 10:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, mark, that was brilliant, that was a great impression.
• 10:32
  Mark Spence: I don't.
• 10:33
  Mark Spence: What is her name?
• 10:33
  Mark Spence: Jezebel, that's funny, okay.
• 10:38
  Emeal Zwayne: How about this one?
• 10:39
  Emeal Zwayne: What you doing, life will echo in eternity.
• 10:43
  Ray Comfort: Glad to hear it.
• 10:44
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, same thing.
• 10:45
  Ray Comfort: No, that was a trick question.
• 10:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Three more and we're done, ready.
• 10:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Three, oh it's really Ready, here we go, here we go.
• 10:50
  Emeal Zwayne: No water for him.
• 10:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I said no water for him Ben her, ben her Ray.
• 10:55
  Emeal Zwayne: How many times have I done that?
• 10:57
  Ray Comfort: Oh, it's just it's a wonderful scene and, folks, if you've never seen that scene, please watch it.
• 11:02
  Ray Comfort: Just the scene or the whole movie, just that scene.
• 11:03
  Ray Comfort: No, you don't watch the whole movie, just the scene where Jesus gives water to Ben her or give you a goose bump.
• 11:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's amazing, you guys definitely won't get these next two.
• 11:11
  Emeal Zwayne: What are we doing?
• 11:12
  Oscar Navarro: Hasta la vista, baby and Terminator, I'll be back.
• 11:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Boy, I think I'll be back is probably the most quoted line from the movie, but what does he say it in?
• 11:24
  Mark Spence: What movie is that?
• 11:24
  Emeal Zwayne: That was Terminator 2.
• 11:26
  Mark Spence: 1984.
• 11:27
  Emeal Zwayne: Terminator 2, judgment Day.
• 11:28
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll be back, boy, he's so specific, he's gotten a lot of mileage out of that All right friends what a contrast, I'll be back.
• 11:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Here's a comment.
• 11:36
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll be back.
• 11:37
  Emeal Zwayne: My name is Jaren Hembroff and I'm 20 years old.
• 11:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I love the Living Waters podcast and I would not be upset if you started to do three episodes per week.
• 11:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Wink, wink.
• 11:46
  Emeal Zwayne: You want to kill us, jaren.
• 11:49
  Mark Spence: My son, ethan, said the same thing.
• 11:51
  Mark Spence: He's all dead.
• 11:51
  Mark Spence: I have Listen.
• 11:52
  Mark Spence: One thing you need to change with your podcast three times a week Go Monday, wednesday, friday.
• 11:56
  Mark Spence: That would.
• 11:58
  Oscar Navarro: You were just about to kick him out of the house and do that.
• 12:01
  Emeal Zwayne: It's encouraging that people want more.
• 12:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Really, that doesn't mean a lot.
• 12:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I first discovered Living Waters when the Mario video popped on my YouTube feed.
• 12:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Praise the Lord for that video.
• 12:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Four million views Popped on my feed when I was 17 or 18.
• 12:14
  Emeal Zwayne: I grew up in the church, but it wasn't until I saw this video that I heard the gospel presented so clearly.
• 12:20
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't ever remember hearing about repentance or what it means to truly believe in Jesus.
• 12:24
  Emeal Zwayne: I believe that this is what led me to getting saved by Christ.
• 12:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Praise God, I've been hooked on Living Waters probably since then.
• 12:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Please do more biographical episodes.
• 12:34
  Emeal Zwayne: I would love to hear one on Luther, as well as others.
• 12:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Also, please do at least one episode with all of your wives.
• 12:40
  Emeal Zwayne: We've only got one each.
• 12:41
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm sure thousands of people would love to hear their testimonies.
• 12:46
  Ray Comfort: Oh, I'm sure they'd be thrilled to be on.
• 12:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, right, thank you guys for your passion and your work.
• 12:51
  Emeal Zwayne: I love you guys.
• 12:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Hopefully Would Rachel ever come on.
• 12:54
  Emeal Zwayne: I can see Rachel coming on.
• 12:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Rachel, yeah, your wife.
• 12:57
  Emeal Zwayne: I think Rachel would Hello.
• 12:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I love Aze so much.
• 13:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Talk about all my great attributes.
• 13:04
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, Frank.
• 13:06
  Mark Spence: That would be a very short program.
• 13:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Laura would not come on.
• 13:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Have you asked her?
• 13:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Would Kelly come on?
• 13:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, I don't know.
• 13:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Isn't it funny, our wives.
• 13:16
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know if Laura, I'd call her an introvert but she wouldn't come on.
• 13:18
  Emeal Zwayne: But the rest of us, our three wives, are at least introverts.
• 13:21
  Ray Comfort: Kelly is definitely an introvert, oh, rachel.
• 13:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but Rachel's, she's coming out of her shell.
• 13:27
  Mark Spence: She's a snaggle.
• 13:28
  Mark Spence: She's got 80.
• 13:28
  Emeal Zwayne: She's got 80.
• 13:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Almost 85,000 followers on her social media.
• 13:32
  Emeal Zwayne: She speaks now.
• 13:33
  Emeal Zwayne: What's it called?
• 13:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, joyful mothers For you ladies out there, check it out.
• 13:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, friends, this podcast is brought to you by the Ten Commandments Scroll Pen, one of the best resources I think we have.
• 13:45
  Emeal Zwayne: You pull out and then retract, and it's got just a creative way to memorize the Ten Commandments.
• 13:51
  Mark Spence: I used to use the boomerang pens when I was a server in a restaurant.
• 13:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh really, yeah, I shall not steal Ray.
• 13:56
  Emeal Zwayne: How'd you get that idea?
• 13:57
  Emeal Zwayne: That, seriously, was really really.
• 13:59
  Ray Comfort: I just found it in my brain.
• 14:00
  Ray Comfort: It's just, it's seriously, it's something we never mentioned, but it's their ballpoint pens and everyone steals them and it's got Rindhamon on the pen that shall not steal and it's got the Bible verse and that's going to appeal to the conscience.
• 14:12
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah.
• 14:14
  Emeal Zwayne: It's called boomerang, because boomerang comes right back to you.
• 14:17
  Ray Comfort: Yes, and the thing is, you just let people steal them.
• 14:21
  Oscar Navarro: The Ten Commandments Scroll Pen inks hold separately, can you?
• 14:25
  Emeal Zwayne: imagine.
• 14:26
  Emeal Zwayne: And don't forget the Living Waters mug and they have it in the Study Bible all at LivingWaterscom.
• 14:30
  Emeal Zwayne: We didn't do that in the last episode.
• 14:34
  Ray Comfort: I didn't do that in the last episode.
• 14:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Alright, guys, we are today talking about what it actually means to have purpose in life.
• 14:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I think after this opening, people are abandoning life.
• 14:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Guys, purpose is probably, I would say, one of the biggest buzzwords of the 21st century.
• 14:53
  Ray Comfort: That was about purpose, purpose.
• 14:57
  Ray Comfort: It's like a New Yorker saying purpose, isn't it?
• 14:59
  Ray Comfort: It's a bit of a purpose.
• 15:02
  Emeal Zwayne: What's your purpose?
• 15:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but seriously.
• 15:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, I talk about this in one of my messages where I discuss a sort of thing.
• 15:07
  Emeal Zwayne: But if you were to do a Google search on the top trending buzzwords of the 21st century, I wouldn't be surprised if purpose was close to the top of the list.
• 15:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Books written on it sermons, preached on it, movies, podcasts, radio programs.
• 15:21
  Emeal Zwayne: You're really hard-pressed even to go to a conference or listen to a sermon where someone, to one degree or another, isn't talking about purpose.
• 15:29
  Emeal Zwayne: And yet, unfortunately, a good chunk of the answers on what the purpose of man is have nothing to do with really the biblical call to the purpose of man.
• 15:40
  Mark Spence: So what are some futile purposes of life that people don't go for Everything?
• 15:45
  Ray Comfort: Fantasy fear juggling, not juggles.
• 15:47
  Ray Comfort: He's a good juggler really.
• 15:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, Mark.
• 15:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Why don't you stop juggling, Mark?
• 15:51
  Mark Spence: I could only juggle like three things.
• 15:54
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, but hang on, I can only do two, so three is pretty good.
• 15:57
  Ray Comfort: You can do three.
• 16:00
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm a mime, you know I can do mime.
• 16:01
  Ray Comfort: Man in a box.
• 16:02
  Ray Comfort: Get out of that box.
• 16:07
  Mark Spence: People have erroneously gone down some rabbit trails when it comes to purpose and meaning, and some of them are very popular, like business success.
• 16:17
  Mark Spence: What are some of them that you're not afraid of?
• 16:21
  Mark Spence: Just simply saying that that is not the meaning of life, that is not the purpose of life, because I would imagine we're going to get into what is the purpose and the meaning of life.
• 16:29
  Mark Spence: Westminster.
• 16:30
  Ray Comfort: Catechism.
• 16:30
  Ray Comfort: I'm sure will go there.
• 16:31
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, a lot of people don't discover that their life is futile until they get to the end of it, their life doing everything but serving God, loving God.
• 16:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, you've often talked about and we've discussed it before.
• 16:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I want two things.
• 16:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I want you, after you answer this, to touch on vanity fair.
• 16:48
  Emeal Zwayne: He doesn't have to, he will.
• 16:51
  Emeal Zwayne: We throw that out there, that term, vanity fair there's a magazine by that name, but there's a place where that came out of.
• 16:57
  Emeal Zwayne: But before that, you've always talked about your biggest nightmare being seeing these guys walking down the street walking their dog, their elderly, and you're thinking they're retired, and the nightmare for you is the thought of having nothing to do I don't even say that and just walking your dog all day.
• 17:15
  Ray Comfort: No, it's not walking the dog, the dog is walking the man, that's true, that's the tragedy of it.
• 17:20
  Ray Comfort: The guy is just he stayed at home, woke up, had breakfast, looked at the TV, didn't want to watch the soap, so whatever's on All the woman's talk shows goes for a walk with a dog, comes back and sits down and has a cup of tea and lunch and he's just waiting to die Because he's left God out of the equation.
• 17:36
  Ray Comfort: And when I was a non-Christian I had an incredibly exciting life my own business.
• 17:43
  Ray Comfort: At 20 years old I could slap a note on the door gone surfing.
• 17:46
  Ray Comfort: It was my dream.
• 17:46
  Ray Comfort: I left a bank to open my own business.
• 17:48
  Ray Comfort: People say what do you do for a living?
• 17:50
  Ray Comfort: I'm mind my own business.
• 17:51
  Ray Comfort: What do you do?
• 17:52
  Ray Comfort: But it was just wonderful.
• 17:54
  Ray Comfort: I own my own home at 20 years old and had everything I want.
• 17:58
  Ray Comfort: And I was horrified because I had no purpose.
• 18:01
  Ray Comfort: It just didn't make sense.
• 18:03
  Ray Comfort: I thought it was really.
• 18:04
  Ray Comfort: I had a Solomon experience, condensed.
• 18:07
  Ray Comfort: I didn't have a thousand concubines, only one.
• 18:09
  Ray Comfort: But I thought what do I do now If I make more money?
• 18:14
  Ray Comfort: My friends, my surfing buddies, are going to hate me.
• 18:16
  Ray Comfort: It was crazy.
• 18:18
  Ray Comfort: And I was absolutely floundering at the age of 22, I think Just before I got saved.
• 18:24
  Ray Comfort: I thought I just don't get this, and that's what drives me to reach the lost.
• 18:28
  Ray Comfort: There's just millions, billions out there that are just absolutely lost.
• 18:32
  Ray Comfort: I don't know where they came from, don't know what they're doing here, don't know where they're going.
• 18:35
  Ray Comfort: And Jesus said the Son of man has come to seek and save that which is lost.
• 18:38
  Ray Comfort: So we've got to run to them.
• 18:41
  Oscar Navarro: Ray, your testimony in that regard reminds me of Ecclesiastes Vanity, vanity, and I think you asked the question earlier.
• 18:48
  Oscar Navarro: What are some of the false purposes that are out there?
• 18:50
  Oscar Navarro: I mean, they're endless.
• 18:51
  Oscar Navarro: There's a consumeristic purpose aspect in which I need to gain, obtain experience, wealth, prosperity.
• 18:58
  Oscar Navarro: That's the purpose of your life.
• 19:00
  Oscar Navarro: There's a power purpose out there, and I need to have power and control over my lives.
• 19:04
  Oscar Navarro: There's also a purpose out there in which the working definition of their life is to receive praise, to be recognized and known by a wider audience, and, of course, some of the most well-known people truly feel unknown.
• 19:18
  Oscar Navarro: You know, if so many eyes are watching you, none of them really actually know you.
• 19:21
  Oscar Navarro: There is a purpose, though, that I think everybody deep down longs for, that is given to them by God and rooted in the gospel, and that is this.
• 19:31
  Oscar Navarro: I think everybody knows that their true purpose is rooted in some way, somehow, in love, but they don't understand the love that they desire.
• 19:42
  Oscar Navarro: I think everybody wants to be known and wants to be loved that aspect that touches on the purpose that God has given us, and Westminster Catechism, written in 1648,.
• 19:55
  Oscar Navarro: For those who don't know, catechisms are a question and answer type survey to help children learn about the Bible.
• 20:02
  Oscar Navarro: This one was written in 1648.
• 20:04
  Oscar Navarro: So they're not primarily Catholic.
• 20:05
  Oscar Navarro: I think a lot of people want to hear Catechism.
• 20:07
  Oscar Navarro: They think Catholicism.
• 20:08
  Oscar Navarro: These were Christian tools to start 1648.
• 20:11
  Oscar Navarro: First question what is the chief end of man?
• 20:14
  Oscar Navarro: Now the word chief end sounds archaic.
• 20:17
  Oscar Navarro: What it's ultimately asking is what is the meaning of man?
• 20:21
  Oscar Navarro: What is your purpose?
• 20:23
  Oscar Navarro: Why are you here?
• 20:24
  Oscar Navarro: Why did God create you?
• 20:27
  Oscar Navarro: And the answer is a man's chief end is to glorify God and enjoy him forever.
• 20:34
  Oscar Navarro: Amen.
• 20:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and I've mentioned it a number of times on the podcast, but this is really the foundation for the family vision statement that I crafted for us, for the Zwayne family household, to gladly and passionately glorify God and every thought, affection, word and deed, while constantly enjoying him as our greatest pleasure and most precious treasure.
• 20:55
  Emeal Zwayne: That's what it comes down to, you know, and I love that.
• 20:57
  Emeal Zwayne: We have it on a big plaque in our living room.
• 20:59
  Emeal Zwayne: All of our kids have memorized it.
• 21:01
  Emeal Zwayne: My wife and I have memorized it.
• 21:02
  Emeal Zwayne: It's become the foundation.
• 21:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Willow's memorized it, so we've become our foundation for our family devotions, a common topic of discussion in our home, and that's giving your family purpose right, and I encourage everyone.
• 21:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Unbelievable two for two.
• 21:20
  Emeal Zwayne: You dropped it again, ray.
• 21:21
  Emeal Zwayne: We're two for two today.
• 21:22
  Ray Comfort: Look guys, it's not my fault, it's this gravity thing.
• 21:24
  Ray Comfort: I'm always seriously, I always have problems.
• 21:27
  Emeal Zwayne: I drop eggs, I spill milk whatever it's the gravity thing yeah, gravity, blame it on gravity.
• 21:33
  Emeal Zwayne: But you know, it's something I would encourage every family to do is to craft some sort of vision statement that will give your family something to aim towards in terms of purpose.
• 21:47
  Oscar Navarro: How has that practically helped you guys Like as you disciple your children?
• 21:51
  Oscar Navarro: How do you guys refer back to that statement and memorize how has that worked for you?
• 21:56
  Emeal Zwayne: It's become a reference point, because, if we're dealing with issues of discipline, the question is hey, was that glorifying to the Lord, as you did?
• 22:03
  Emeal Zwayne: That that's so good?
• 22:04
  Emeal Zwayne: And every thought, affection, word indeed, which is everything we think, say, do and feel, you know, and so you bring it back to that.
• 22:10
  Emeal Zwayne: When we're pursuing different things, we'll ask the question well, will this glorify the Lord, or is this being done to glorify yourself, as we're maybe pursuing things that are in keeping with pleasure and maybe they might be questionable.
• 22:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, hey, christ should be your greatest pleasure.
• 22:27
  Emeal Zwayne: You're pursuing riches.
• 22:28
  Emeal Zwayne: He should be your greatest treasure.
• 22:29
  Emeal Zwayne: The ramifications spill over into so many different things.
• 22:35
  Mark Spence: If you don't get this question right, you're not going to get any of the questions that come your way, right?
• 22:40
  Mark Spence: I mean, that's how important this is.
• 22:43
  Mark Spence: I have a car, we all have a car.
• 22:45
  Mark Spence: Ray has a baby car.
• 22:49
  Ray Comfort: The most popular car in the world is the Vida Betel.
• 22:52
  Ray Comfort: That's number one.
• 22:53
  Emeal Zwayne: So that's what you have.
• 22:54
  Emeal Zwayne: So you're falling the ways of the world.
• 22:56
  Emeal Zwayne: That's popular.
• 22:59
  Ray Comfort: No, I'm using it to reach the world.
• 23:01
  Ray Comfort: Oh, that's what it is.
• 23:03
  Mark Spence: So the main purpose of a car is to get you from point A to point B.
• 23:06
  Mark Spence: But if I never put gas in it and I just kept it inside my driveway, then you're not using it for the purpose for which it was designed.
• 23:12
  Mark Spence: In past podcasts, oscars talked about our telos.
• 23:17
  Mark Spence: Right, the main, the purpose for which it was designed.
• 23:22
  Mark Spence: And if the car is not actually used for the purpose for which it was designed, well then it's just a big paperweight.
• 23:29
  Mark Spence: Wow, right.
• 23:30
  Mark Spence: And so you and I, we have a purpose, and that is to know God and to make our God known.
• 23:36
  Mark Spence: So when we do anything extracurricular outside of that and there's nothing wrong with extracurricular activities right, whatever you do, you do all to the glory of God.
• 23:45
  Mark Spence: But if we don't have that purpose, well then you become just a big paperweight, right, you become something other than that which you are designed for, and what you do that day will not have any meaning in life.
• 24:00
  Mark Spence: And you had mentioned Russell Crowe earlier by a quote of his.
• 24:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, maybe his what you're doing, time will echo in eternity.
• 24:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Why did you bring it up?
• 24:09
  Emeal Zwayne: What you're doing, time will echo in eternity.
• 24:11
  Mark Spence: And isn't that true right?
• 24:12
  Mark Spence: Whatever we did last night, we found it so important that we exchanged a moment of eternity for it.
• 24:17
  Mark Spence: Like what we're doing today, we are willing to say I want that to echo forever into eternity, that I can be known by that, and not to overemphasize and overspiritualize, but just by virtue of the fact that we are spiritual beings created with a purpose, that everything we do is holy onto him, that we can be mindful of Christ in the midst of it.
• 24:38
  Mark Spence: And if we had that mindset, we will walk out of more movies, we will not listen to as many jokes, we will utilize the money that God has entrusted into our care a little bit more proper than the person next to us, and because everything we have is on loan from him, and that includes not just money but our time.
• 24:57
  Oscar Navarro: I think the Telos argument is a really good evangelistic approach, especially to younger individuals.
• 25:03
  Oscar Navarro: I think I've talked about that on the podcast before, because maybe one of the reasons why we're doing this is that the newer generation of kids I shouldn't say kids, because honestly it's people my age, newer generation of people are not asking the same question that the generation before them was asking.
• 25:18
  Oscar Navarro: The generation before you know that the existential question that was on everybody's mind is what happens when I die.
• 25:26
  Oscar Navarro: And so if you talk to somebody from generations prior and you ask them what do you think you're going to die?
• 25:29
  Oscar Navarro: They've probably contemplated it at some point.
• 25:32
  Oscar Navarro: But when you start drifting towards younger generation, you ask that question.
• 25:35
  Oscar Navarro: What often you'll see is I don't know.
• 25:37
  Oscar Navarro: Didn't really think about it.
• 25:38
  Oscar Navarro: I'm not sure it wouldn't be fair for us to say that they're not interested in spiritual things.
• 25:44
  Oscar Navarro: It's more helpful to think what is their existential question?
• 25:49
  Oscar Navarro: And the existential question that is being asked, I think, by many today is this question what is my purpose, what is my meaning, what is my value in life?
• 26:00
  Oscar Navarro: And here's where the Telos argument I think helps a lot, because if again, you know, I like to use the idea of a watch.
• 26:07
  Oscar Navarro: Like if I grab a watch and I try to use a watch as a hammer, it's going to make a mess of things.
• 26:12
  Oscar Navarro: I'm going to break the watch.
• 26:13
  Oscar Navarro: The hammer's not going to go into the wood.
• 26:15
  Oscar Navarro: Nothing is going to work out Now.
• 26:16
  Ray Comfort: it's not going to go into the wood.
• 26:17
  Oscar Navarro: Sorry, you're right, you're hammering a hammer with a watch.
• 26:20
  Emeal Zwayne: That's why I hire construction workers Hammer a hammer with a watch.
• 26:24
  Oscar Navarro: And if you are going about your life with the wrong Telos, if you're a watch trying to be a hammer, you're going to feel it.
• 26:35
  Oscar Navarro: Your lived experience is that you're going to feel lost.
• 26:38
  Oscar Navarro: And that's a key word.
• 26:39
  Oscar Navarro: When you talk to younger people today and you ask them do you feel lost?
• 26:43
  Oscar Navarro: It's like they have this look like how did you know?
• 26:45
  Oscar Navarro: It's because they're not living out their Telos.
• 26:48
  Oscar Navarro: And then we get to, through the gospel, explain to them you're Telos, the reason why you exist is to glorify God and enjoy him forever.
• 26:58
  Emeal Zwayne: And then, a minute ago, you looked like you had something brilliant you wanted to say yeah, it wasn't brilliant, it's pathetic.
• 27:02
  Ray Comfort: But it's Revelation 4, verse 11, because it's going to lift up.
• 27:05
  Ray Comfort: You're saying scripture is pathetic.
• 27:06
  Ray Comfort: Whoa, I'm moving on to scripture from my pathetic thought.
• 27:10
  Ray Comfort: But listen, revelation 4, verse 11, king James Version.
• 27:14
  Ray Comfort: They are worthy, o Lord, to receive glory and honor and power, for you have created all things and for your pleasure they are and were created.
• 27:23
  Ray Comfort: And we look at this world and think, yeah, it's all for our pleasure.
• 27:26
  Ray Comfort: What we don't realize is that our pleasure is God's pleasure.
• 27:30
  Ray Comfort: When you look at your kids, nothing thrills you more than seeing your kids enjoying themselves.
• 27:35
  Ray Comfort: You think this is wonderful.
• 27:36
  Ray Comfort: So your kids' pleasure give you pleasure, and us living in righteousness and enjoying the gifts that God has given us gives God pleasure, which is wonderful thought.
• 27:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you know, in the verse that goes along with our family vision statements.
• 27:48
  Emeal Zwayne: First Corinthians 10 31,.
• 27:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Whether you eat or do, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do, all to the glory of God.
• 27:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Mark, I love that earlier you were just referencing some power.
• 27:58
  Ray Comfort: So when you're going to stop slurping your soup and stuff like that.
• 28:01
  Ray Comfort: I often think of that verse when I'm eating, Slurping.
• 28:07
  Ray Comfort: Do whatever you do with your drink, do it to the glory of God it's really hard for me to do that with finger food after this, yeah.
• 28:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's true.
• 28:14
  Emeal Zwayne: That's a good way to find the Lord.
• 28:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but, mark, I love the fact that you referenced that you know how are we spending our time in that regard.
• 28:22
  Emeal Zwayne: When I was a newer believer, I wrote this yesterday live, each live, each moment in wisdom and in holiness, and not for the moment itself, but rather in view of the moment to come, so that, when this moment passes away, you may be left with the results of a positive action and may be able to reflect with rejoicing rather than remorse and regret.
• 28:45
  Mark Spence: What is that resolution?
• 28:46
  Mark Spence: Was it Jonathan Edwards?
• 28:48
  Ray Comfort: Hang on that was very good, Aisy.
• 28:49
  Mark Spence: Merci beaucoup it goes along with that that one of the resolutions from Jonathan Edwards was to Live each moment as if it's your own.
• 28:59
  Mark Spence: No, it was so when he looks back on his life, he would, yeah boy, he would he have 99 resolutions, or something crazy by the time he was 17, some like that, yeah yeah, and you know the point.
• 29:09
  Emeal Zwayne: The point in that is that you know we're only left with what we did with the previous moment, how much time we spent already doing this podcast.
• 29:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Those moments are all gone.
• 29:20
  Emeal Zwayne: They're literally history, trust me.
• 29:22
  Emeal Zwayne: No, oh, all we're left with is a memory and an effect.
• 29:26
  Emeal Zwayne: So I want to so in every moment, in such a way that, when it's gone, in the next moment, I'm reaping a positive memory, a positive impact.
• 29:34
  Emeal Zwayne: By the way that I live for the glory of God.
• 29:36
  Oscar Navarro: That's a great thought another good example is like something not living out its purpose is the like the printer in my office.
• 29:42
  Oscar Navarro: It's like every time I go to print something it starts playing like this little tune, like music.
• 29:47
  Oscar Navarro: It's the papers, german.
• 29:49
  Oscar Navarro: I.
• 29:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Found it.
• 29:53
  Mark Spence: It's the seventh resolution from Jonathan Edwards.
• 29:56
  Mark Spence: He said resolved never to do anything, which I should be afraid to do if it were the last hour.
• 30:00
  Mark Spence: Yeah, that's right.
• 30:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, those are powerful.
• 30:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Those are be good to look up, friends.
• 30:05
  Emeal Zwayne: If you haven't Jonathan Edwards resolutions, they're so convicted.
• 30:08
  Emeal Zwayne: I think he wrote him when he was 17 or something.
• 30:10
  Ray Comfort: He had a brilliant mind, didn't he?
• 30:12
  Emeal Zwayne: yeah, and he would.
• 30:12
  Emeal Zwayne: He would read them weekly and strong and review them weekly and and, if you want to, learn more about them.
• 30:18
  Oscar Navarro: We actually did a podcast on Jonathan Edwards and, if I remember correctly, you read a handful.
• 30:22
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I did be good when I go back and listen to yeah.
• 30:25
  Emeal Zwayne: So you know, I wrote this whole thing to back way back in the day.
• 30:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Boy, I must have been I don't know 18, 19, but it's a long.
• 30:32
  Emeal Zwayne: In terms of the purpose of man, you guys have heard it dozens of times but oh, it's beautiful.
• 30:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but it's funny.
• 30:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I remember I was, I was sitting down, I went over it meticulously and it all.
• 30:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Actually it makes sense.
• 30:44
  Emeal Zwayne: That's an accurate statement.
• 30:45
  Emeal Zwayne: But in terms of the purpose of man, the purposes of man is to know his maker, be known by his maker and make his maker known so that others may know his maker as their maker, be known by his maker as their maker, and make the maker of him, who made his maker, known to the M Eachir maker None is a maker of others so that others may know the maker of him, what made his maker known as a maker of the ones who made the maker of the one who made his maker known as their maker, known as their maker, as their maker, and that they may also make him known to others who will turn already be known by him and, in multiplicity, to the degree of infinite, to make him known.
• 31:16
  Ray Comfort: And you didn't read that.
• 31:17
  Ray Comfort: You did that by memory and I couldn't understand what you were talking about, to be quite honest, but it did make sense.
• 31:22
  Ray Comfort: Well, my brain scares me.
• 31:25
  Emeal Zwayne: But you know what the reason I do that is?
• 31:27
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a joke, because I say, hey, the purpose of man is very, very, very, very simple.
• 31:31
  Emeal Zwayne: There's nothing complicated, complex or intricate about it.
• 31:34
  Emeal Zwayne: It's very, very simple.
• 31:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Here it is.
• 31:35
  Emeal Zwayne: First, man is a nosy maker, but a nice maker, and maker is a maker known.
• 31:37
  Emeal Zwayne: And they think, oh, that's it.
• 31:38
  Emeal Zwayne: And then I do all that and I say, as you saw about that ridiculous illustration, we as people have a way of complicating the simple.
• 31:44
  Emeal Zwayne: That's good, and so yeah, but to know our maker I mean John 17.3, and this is eternal life to know you, the only true God to be known by our maker Romans 8, 29, and 30, whom he foreknew, he predestined.
• 31:59
  Emeal Zwayne: God knows us so well, he foreknew us.
• 32:02
  Mark Spence: And the glory is glorying this, that he knows me and he understands me.
• 32:05
  Mark Spence: Yeah, amen.
• 32:06
  Ray Comfort: So what would you say?
• 32:07
  Mark Spence: if someone said to you.
• 32:08
  Ray Comfort: I've been asking people what is a Christian, asking non-Christians what is a Christian, and you and I know a Christian is someone who knows the Lord, says, and I think he bruised or somewhere you'll no longer say know you the Lord?
• 32:21
  Ray Comfort: And then the scripture you just quoted, this is eternal life.
• 32:25
  Ray Comfort: They might know you, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom we ever sent.
• 32:28
  Ray Comfort: I've got a video coming out with this girl who was a Christian for many years and she just rips into everything and the point is that she didn't know the Lord, cause if she said she did, then she's saying everything she said.
• 32:42
  Ray Comfort: What she's saying isn't true and if she didn't know the Lord, she was a false conversion.
• 32:46
  Ray Comfort: She faked it.
• 32:47
  Ray Comfort: But that's what a Christian is someone who knows the Lord.
• 32:50
  Emeal Zwayne: That's a question you often ask people, right, because I know you're gonna ask it.
• 32:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I love it cause I know what's going on in your brain, but people are so unsuspecting.
• 32:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you saying you knew the Lord?
• 33:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, oh gotcha.
• 33:04
  Ray Comfort: I don't point the finger in the.
• 33:06
  Ray Comfort: I don't do that face.
• 33:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Turn into a witch?
• 33:10
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, that's like sick Gollum.
• 33:13
  Oscar Navarro: My brain is you know we started about movies and let me circle back to movies.
• 33:17
  Oscar Navarro: I know you guys have heard me talk about this at our ambassadors academy and this is sort of going back to act 17, which we talked about last episode.
• 33:24
  Oscar Navarro: How can we look at the world and redeem the things that the poets are saying?
• 33:29
  Oscar Navarro: Because, again, there's common grace out there, and I think one of the best examples of this is in the movie Toy Story, because the thing about purpose is that it tends to speak about our identities and I think for many people we have an identity crisis, and I think the first movie, toy Story, gives this great common grace, poetic example of what it means to have true purpose.
• 33:48
  Oscar Navarro: And so in that movie, as we all know and if you haven't watched, it.
• 33:51
  Ray Comfort: We all know.
• 33:53
  Oscar Navarro: We may not all know, but if you haven't watched it, I'm about to ruin it for you.
• 33:56
  Oscar Navarro: But you should watch it.
• 33:57
  Oscar Navarro: It's a really good movie.
• 33:57
  Oscar Navarro: In that movie we meet Buzz Lightyear.
• 33:59
  Oscar Navarro: And when you first meet Buzz Lightyear he thinks that he is the real Buzz Lightyear of star command.
• 34:05
  Oscar Navarro: You know what I mean.
• 34:06
  Oscar Navarro: He ignores all of the realities, that he's just a toy To him.
• 34:10
  Oscar Navarro: His LED light is a real laser light To him.
• 34:13
  Oscar Navarro: His plastic wings can really make him fly.
• 34:16
  Oscar Navarro: And so when we first meet him, you know he's got like the name Andy has written on his shoe by the boy and he's like look, your chief leader has inaugurated me into your tribe.
• 34:26
  Oscar Navarro: And so all throughout the movie Woody is trying to convince Buzz that he's not a real space ranger.
• 34:33
  Oscar Navarro: Towards the end of the movie they get caught by the neighbor and kid who loves to torture toys, and they're trying to escape to get back to Andy's room.
• 34:42
  Oscar Navarro: And there's this moment where Buzz is gonna be able to prove himself.
• 34:46
  Oscar Navarro: He's gonna be able to say look, my identity and purpose comes from what I do.
• 34:52
  Oscar Navarro: I am gonna tell you who I am.
• 34:54
  Oscar Navarro: And so he gets up.
• 34:55
  Oscar Navarro: He has this opportunity to be the hero of the day.
• 34:57
  Oscar Navarro: He stands on a ledge, he opens up his plastic wings.
• 35:00
  Oscar Navarro: There's an open window.
• 35:01
  Oscar Navarro: All Buzz has to do is fly out that window and he is who he says he is and he's the hero of the day.
• 35:09
  Oscar Navarro: And of course, in that moment he jumps and in slow motion you sort of realize as he does.
• 35:16
  Oscar Navarro: What Ray does every day is find out about gravity.
• 35:18
  Oscar Navarro: He starts to plummet to the ground and he hits it and his arm breaks and he's sitting there depressed because he's realizing that he is not who he says he is.
• 35:27
  Oscar Navarro: And so, like in a scene or two later, buzz is strapped to a exploding rocket and Woody is trapped right next to him and Woody's like still trying to get him to escape.
• 35:38
  Oscar Navarro: And Buzz tells him what's the point?
• 35:41
  Oscar Navarro: What's the point?
• 35:42
  Oscar Navarro: I'm just a toy.
• 35:44
  Oscar Navarro: And Woody says to him almost in a prophetic moment just a toy, just a toy.
• 35:51
  Oscar Navarro: He says, buzz, over there is a kid who thinks you're the greatest, is a kid who loves you.
• 35:57
  Oscar Navarro: And in that moment in the movie, buzz looks down at his soul, on his shoe, and he sees a name written there Andy.
• 36:06
  Oscar Navarro: And he finds the wherewithal to continue in life and to escape and to get back to his home.
• 36:11
  Oscar Navarro: What gave Buzz Value in that moment?
• 36:15
  Oscar Navarro: It's not what he is, it's not what he can do, but who he is loved by.
• 36:21
  Oscar Navarro: He is loved by someone so much greater than him, and that's.
• 36:25
  Oscar Navarro: The good news to us is that there is a name Written on our souls, and it is the name of God.
• 36:31
  Oscar Navarro: That is the chief in the man.
• 36:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's not who you are, it's who's you are in our reading last night it's having a sue.
• 36:39
  Ray Comfort: We read that famous portion of scripture where Jesus appears the resurrection and Mary doesn't know who he is and he just turns and says, mary, oh, that's just a goosebumps moment.
• 36:51
  Ray Comfort: He didn't need to say anything more, and that's the throwing part that God knows us by name.
• 36:56
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, amen, he knows us by name.
• 36:58
  Ray Comfort: She hear his voice.
• 36:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, he calls him by name.
• 37:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, yeah, and, and, yeah, and.
• 37:03
  Emeal Zwayne: So that's the joy for us as believers.
• 37:05
  Emeal Zwayne: You know we?
• 37:06
  Emeal Zwayne: We know what our purpose is.
• 37:08
  Emeal Zwayne: It's to know our makers, to be known by our maker through that intimate, close relationship.
• 37:13
  Emeal Zwayne: And that third part, to make our maker known, and We've discussed it many times with second Corinthians 5, right it?
• 37:21
  Emeal Zwayne: We are Ambassadors for Christ.
• 37:24
  Emeal Zwayne: God wants to plead through us to the world to be reconciled to him.
• 37:27
  Emeal Zwayne: We are full-time ministers of reconciliation, with the ministry of reconciliation, and so we have to keep that in mind and I think a part of really living out purpose is Doing.
• 37:40
  Emeal Zwayne: You know what the famous statement says, beginning with the end in mind, and you know I love what.
• 37:47
  Emeal Zwayne: What it?
• 37:47
  Emeal Zwayne: What Paul said in second Timothy 4, 6 to 8, for I am already being poured out as a drink offering and the time of my departure is at hand.
• 37:56
  Emeal Zwayne: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.
• 38:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give to me on that day, and not to me only, but also to all who have loved his Appearing I love that by Paul.
• 38:13
  Emeal Zwayne: You know he's saying, man, he's reached the end of his life and he's saying, look, I've done all this.
• 38:17
  Emeal Zwayne: My, my, my fight has been fought.
• 38:20
  Emeal Zwayne: But he fought it valiantly, you know he didn't.
• 38:23
  Emeal Zwayne: He didn't throw in the towel, he didn't give up.
• 38:24
  Emeal Zwayne: I finished the race.
• 38:26
  Emeal Zwayne: He didn't just kind of run half-heartedly, he ran as though to win.
• 38:30
  Emeal Zwayne: As he sold us in another place, he's kept the faith.
• 38:32
  Emeal Zwayne: He didn't just keep it, but he contended for it.
• 38:35
  Emeal Zwayne: He fought for it with all his being.
• 38:37
  Ray Comfort: He reminded me when you, when you quoted it, poured out as a drink offering, how David Long for a drink from the well of Bethlehem and a three mighty men broke through the risk their lives to bring back the drink from the well of Bethlehem.
• 38:50
  Ray Comfort: And instead of drinking it, he poured it out as a drink offering to the Lord.
• 38:54
  Ray Comfort: He says how can I do this?
• 38:55
  Ray Comfort: Because it's the blood of you.
• 38:56
  Ray Comfort: Know those, those mighty men?
• 38:58
  Ray Comfort: And we look at the gospel and say the, the great mighty three, the triune, god, broke through and to Bethlehem to purchase Water from the wells of everlasting life.
• 39:07
  Ray Comfort: And how can we drink it in self indulgence?
• 39:10
  Ray Comfort: But we must pour our lives as a drink offering to the Lord.
• 39:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I love that right.
• 39:15
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, mark, there's so many things that get in the way of us fulfilling our purpose and being driven by purpose, and it's the distractions of the world, when you say and, and the weakness of our flesh and the attacks of the enemy.
• 39:33
  Emeal Zwayne: How do we fight that?
• 39:34
  Emeal Zwayne: How do we?
• 39:34
  Emeal Zwayne: How do we get past that and stick to our purpose?
• 39:37
  Mark Spence: I think daily we have to kind of regroup, we have to kind of pause and have that say la moment where we realize and recognize what is the meaning of life.
• 39:45
  Mark Spence: Well, why am I truly here?
• 39:47
  Mark Spence: You know, I was reading an article recently talking about the meaning of life and how it's wrapped up in the Glory of God, and there's a couple scriptures here that let me share with you.
• 39:56
  Mark Spence: And calling God's elect, in Isaiah 43, verse 7, it says bring all who claim me as their God, for I have made them for my glory.
• 40:06
  Mark Spence: It was I who created them and the reason we were made is for God's glory.
• 40:12
  Mark Spence: That that is it.
• 40:13
  Mark Spence: And for somebody who's outside of the faith, they begin to think well, that's very narcissistic.
• 40:18
  Mark Spence: God is a very jealous God and we begin to equate God's jealousy like man's jealousy.
• 40:25
  Mark Spence: But if you pause anything through for a moment, the most loving thing that God could do is Command worship from his creation, because he knows that the worship of God will bring the ultimate satisfaction.
• 40:40
  Ray Comfort: In man to man right.
• 40:41
  Mark Spence: So with God being a jealous God, he knows the greatest need of man is God.
• 40:47
  Mark Spence: So he says draw near to me and I'll draw near to you.
• 40:49
  Mark Spence: That is the absolute best thing that God can give.
• 40:53
  Mark Spence: Man is himself.
• 40:54
  Mark Spence: Jesus said is in Matthew 16.
• 40:57
  Mark Spence: He says if anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
• 41:02
  Mark Spence: For whoever wants to save his life will lose it.
• 41:05
  Mark Spence: But whoever loses his life for my sake will Find it.
• 41:09
  Mark Spence: And then that ultimately leads to a promise that Ray has shared since the moment I've met him.
• 41:15
  Mark Spence: You know, you delight yourself in the Lord.
• 41:17
  Mark Spence: He'll give you the desires of your heart.
• 41:19
  Mark Spence: But that's not to be confused with.
• 41:21
  Mark Spence: If I delight myself in the Lord, well then I get riches, fame, popularity and everything else attached to that.
• 41:26
  Mark Spence: No, but when we are delighting ourselves in God, then we want what God wants for us.
• 41:32
  Mark Spence: Yeah right, that's what we, that's what we want.
• 41:34
  Mark Spence: It's like pray the Lord of the harvest to raise up laborers.
• 41:36
  Mark Spence: If we continually are praying to the Lord of the harvest, we're gonna recognize as we look inside the mirror that we are part of that prayer.
• 41:43
  Mark Spence: But we are the answer, the solution to the problem of the world not hearing about Jesus Christ.
• 41:49
  Mark Spence: So, as we delight ourselves in God, what does he do?
• 41:53
  Mark Spence: He gives us things that matter, which are heavenly spiritual things.
• 41:56
  Mark Spence: We've been blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenlies.
• 41:59
  Mark Spence: No good thing Will he withhold from those who walk up rightly that what we need is Christ to light ourselves in God we're gonna find everything we need is satisfied in him alone.
• 42:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen, so well put mark.
• 42:13
  Ray Comfort: Richard Orkins said, the universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at bottom no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind pity, lessen difference.
• 42:22
  Ray Comfort: What a load of onions, oh.
• 42:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Absolutely Call them.
• 42:28
  Ray Comfort: Richard, open up your Bible.
• 42:30
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, created by God for God to enjoy pleasure forever more.
• 42:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and and look when, when you're living With God himself as your purpose, it allows you the ability to endure the unthinkable.
• 42:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, think of, think of Paul's heart, right again, driven not only to nose maker, be known by his maker, but make his maker known.
• 42:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Listen to what he said to the Ephesians, that to the Ephesian elders, in Acts 20, 22 to 24, he said in see, now I go, bound in the spirit, to Jerusalem, not knowing the things that will happen to me there, except.
• 43:07
  Emeal Zwayne: But he's saying I don't know what's gonna, what's gonna go on, except I know this the Holy Spirit testifies in every city, saying that chains and tribulations await me.
• 43:18
  Emeal Zwayne: So he didn't know what was gonna happen.
• 43:20
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know about any good stuff, but I know this I got, I got chains coming, I got tribulation coming.
• 43:25
  Emeal Zwayne: And then he says this but None of these things Move me.
• 43:31
  Emeal Zwayne: What a focus, wow, I mean.
• 43:33
  Emeal Zwayne: But that in and of itself, like we could spend, and you know, an hour and just talking on that.
• 43:39
  Emeal Zwayne: None of these things move me.
• 43:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Because ultimately, that's what it comes down to, right, like what I said earlier Staying our course, not being moved, swayed by oh, my car broke down.
• 43:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I have this bill I got to pay.
• 43:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, these people don't like me.
• 43:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, they unfriended me.
• 43:53
  Emeal Zwayne: None of these things move me.
• 43:55
  Emeal Zwayne: What things that you're gonna be persecuted?
• 43:56
  Emeal Zwayne: You got chains coming.
• 43:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Nor do I count my life dear to myself.
• 44:03
  Ray Comfort: That's the key.
• 44:03
  Ray Comfort: Wow, there's not Crucified with Christ.
• 44:06
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I'm no longer live Right.
• 44:09
  Emeal Zwayne: My life isn't dear to me because my life isn't mine, doesn't belong to me.
• 44:13
  Emeal Zwayne: The things that happen to me here on this earth don't matter anymore.
• 44:15
  Emeal Zwayne: I've set my mind on the things above, where Christ is seated, seated up in the heavenlies, right, but none of these things move me.
• 44:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Nor do I count my life dear to myself so that I May finish my race with joy and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus to testify to the gospel, the grace of God.
• 44:36
  Emeal Zwayne: There's a van Whoo.
• 44:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean again, anyone who thinks that these words are derived.
• 44:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Read that, by the way, that was really good.
• 44:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm just stirred by this because I'm convicted, right, because I'm so easily Deterred from my purpose.
• 44:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Paul saying, yeah, this is what I know definitely will happen.
• 44:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know about anything else, but I don't care, I'm not moved, my life isn't dear to myself.
• 44:56
  Emeal Zwayne: What's my goal?
• 44:57
  Emeal Zwayne: What's my purpose?
• 44:58
  Emeal Zwayne: To finish that race.
• 44:59
  Emeal Zwayne: It's to.
• 45:00
  Emeal Zwayne: It's to do it with joy, to fulfill the ministry that I receive from Lord.
• 45:05
  Emeal Zwayne: This came from God.
• 45:06
  Emeal Zwayne: To what?
• 45:07
  Emeal Zwayne: To testify to the gospel of the grace of God.
• 45:09
  Emeal Zwayne: That's purpose, right there.
• 45:11
  Emeal Zwayne: And you know we need to be like Jesus.
• 45:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Isaiah 57 prophesied of him right, his face was set like flint and then we see it revealed in Luke 9.51.
• 45:20
  Ray Comfort: What happens when you strike flint Sparks?
• 45:23
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, they're trying to tear him from his Purpose and you'll get sparks like Peter.
• 45:28
  Ray Comfort: God, don't go to the cross, lord.
• 45:30
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, get behind me Satan.
• 45:32
  Emeal Zwayne: I love it.
• 45:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
• 45:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Luke 9.51.
• 45:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Now it came to pass, when the time had come for him to be received up, that he stead, fastly, set his face to go to Jerusalem.
• 45:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm going, and he knew what awaited him.
• 45:43
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, but you know, it is so important to know the meaning of life.
• 45:48
  Mark Spence: You know, when Jesus said I've come, that you may have life and have it to the full, the church today has erroneously dissected that and Falsely said that that means to have an abundant life, meaning a joyous life, a happy life.
• 46:04
  Mark Spence: And then we use that as a draw card for salvation and then people experiment with our claims to see if those are true, and they've experienced trials and tribulation.
• 46:13
  Mark Spence: But Jesus did say that I've come, that you might have a full life.
• 46:18
  Mark Spence: And the reason why this is so important is because that word full that we're abundant it just means full.
• 46:26
  Mark Spence: Sure, jesus came to give us a full life, but if we're focused on what that actually means, it is a meaningful life.
• 46:34
  Mark Spence: It is devoid of aimless wanderings inside this life Now, is it wonderful in the sense that it will not have the trials and tribulation?
• 46:44
  Mark Spence: No, you get to determine whether or not you like it to that extent, but the truth is that we've been created for good works and it's a life filled with good works.
• 46:53
  Mark Spence: So we are continually walking in good works and it is at times uncomfortable, but it is a full life and Jesus came to give us that full, meaningful life, devoid of aimless wandering.
• 47:05
  Mark Spence: Amen.
• 47:07
  Oscar Navarro: Augustine has a great quote.
• 47:09
  Oscar Navarro: I finished his book Confessions back in January, I think it was in January.
• 47:12
  Oscar Navarro: He says our hearts are restless until they find their rest in you talking of the Lord.
• 47:21
  Oscar Navarro: And, yeah, the restlessness that so many out there feel.
• 47:25
  Oscar Navarro: Isn't it possible that you feel restless because you're not living out a truly purposeful life?
• 47:31
  Oscar Navarro: No, a life that glorifies and enjoys your maker.
• 47:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen Augustine was brilliant.
• 47:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Friends.
• 47:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Let me leave you with this.
• 47:39
  Emeal Zwayne: I wanna give you a word of exhortation.
• 47:40
  Emeal Zwayne: We've become friends now over the course of these past two years.
• 47:44
  Emeal Zwayne: You're telling about us guys, no, our listeners.
• 47:47
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys are my friends and it's been a journey, and the feedback we've gotten from so many of you about how this podcast has become a regular part of your life is so encouraging to us.
• 47:59
  Emeal Zwayne: But I wanna encourage you to really take to heart what I'm about to share.
• 48:03
  Emeal Zwayne: If we do not recalibrate and I've mentioned this word before recalibrate every day, we're going to veer off course.
• 48:14
  Emeal Zwayne: You know I wear a watch that is linked to the Boulder Colorado atomic clock, which keeps perfect time Like our smartphone.
• 48:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, exactly, but this is on my wrist, but every night it goes into this mode at midnight where you see this like a satellite dish doing lights on and off.
• 48:37
  Emeal Zwayne: It's recalibrating, it's connecting to that clock in Boulder, colorado, so they can realign, cause over time, even if it's a fraction of a second, it'll go off, so it's always perfectly aligned, like my phone.
• 48:49
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, they turn at the exact same time Because you got no excuse of being late all the time.
• 48:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, constantly.
• 48:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Anyway, my point is friends.
• 48:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Look, if you really wanna live out your purpose in life, to be vibrant, like Paul the apostle you're not deterred, you're not moved, your life is not dear to you you must recalibrate.
• 49:05
  Emeal Zwayne: You cannot have a life that's lived out in vibrant purpose if you don't spend time with God.
• 49:11
  Emeal Zwayne: It's not legalism, it's not some form of attaining spiritual bragging points.
• 49:18
  Emeal Zwayne: It's your lifeline.
• 49:20
  Emeal Zwayne: How can you have a vibrant life if you're not recalibrating by connecting with your God, by pouring your heart out to him, bringing your burdens to him, by listening to his voice, through his word, and receiving guidance and truth into your life?
• 49:33
  Emeal Zwayne: And so you need to examine yourself I do my brother's here to need to and ask yourself what are the things that are deterring me from a passionate pursuit of God by spending intimate time with him.
• 49:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I hope you do that today.
• 49:47
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, that's the end of it.
• 49:49
  Emeal Zwayne: The final purpose is hearing my voice.
• 49:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't forget the 10 Commandments.
• 49:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Scroll pen.
• 49:56
  Ray Comfort: They just surreaked the whole program.
• 49:59
  Emeal Zwayne: And the boomerang pen that Ray greatly reminded us of.
• 50:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Or was it Mark?
• 50:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know, I don't care.
• 50:04
  Emeal Zwayne: The Living Waters, the evidence study Bible all at livingwaterscom podcast at livingwaterscom, with your thoughts and comments and ideas, let us know.
• 50:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't forget to subscribe, leave us those ratings and comments on the platform you listen on, whether it's Spotify, apple or anything else.
• 50:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for joining us, friends.
• 50:22
  Emeal Zwayne: We'll see you here next time on the Living Waters podcast.
• 50:27
  Emeal Zwayne: The ultimate cure for insomnia Touch Pfft, pfft, pfft.
• 50:36
  Ray Comfort: Just let it die.
• 50:37
  Ray Comfort: I did Pfft, pfft.