Latest / Birdland Territory / Colton Cowser with a walkoff HR, but O's lose Game 2

Transcript

Colton Cowser with a walkoff HR, but O's lose Game 2 · Birdland Territory

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: For the Birds today it was a mixed bag. They
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: played a doubleheader on the Memorial Day Sunday at Camden Yards,
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: winning the first one dramatically and losing the second one.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: They split with the Tigers, winning five to three on
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: the Colton Kowser walk off home run at a four
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: to one loss in Game two. Welcome in another edition
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: of Birdland Territory with Steve Maleuski, Tim Barbaras and Brad Brock. Hey, guys,
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: let's go to the first game first, because that was
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: a little more exciting. We'll get into aspects of all
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: of this day in a moment here, but let me
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: start with Brandon Young. We'll get to Colton Kowser's walk
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: off in a minute. But Brandon Young did it again
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: for the Orioles in a time when Dean Kramer's been out,
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Eflyn is out for the year. Those two have combined
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: to make three starts. Brandon Young has made seven and oh,
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: by the way, the Orioles are six and one in
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: those games and today six and two thirds no earn runs.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's the only Oriole starter this year that
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: has two games not allowing an earned run in and
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: outing and so pretty impressive stuff. What did you guys
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: see from Brandon Young today?
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I think today's just kind of
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: a continuation of what we talked about a couple of
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: weeks ago in Miami. That first thing, he gave up
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: a couple of runs, and from that point on, I've
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: been it's been watching a different pitcher. He's just been
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: attacking so much with his four seamer. He has so
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: much trust in that pitch and now his splitter. He's
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: really tightened up the metrics that they were showing on
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: the TV with the movement profile. Today was a really
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: really good pitch and I think he's just leaning really
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: into that four team at the top of the zone
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: and then he's mixing in that splitter once he gets ahead,
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: and it's a really tough mix for hitters.
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: To be on. And his force seeming right now is
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: playing just at an elite level. I mean, just watching
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: some of the swings.
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: These guys are swinging first pitch and just popping up
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: fly balls, routine fly balls, the right field, routine flyball,
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: a center field. It just really shows you that that
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: pitch is really playing at a very very high level
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 2:06
  Speaker 4: I'd hate to make it so simple, guys, But he
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: just threw strikes like that. That was the biggest thing
• 2:11
  Speaker 4: that stuck out. Stuck out to me today. He got
• 2:14
  Speaker 4: first pitch strikes on twenty one of twenty eight batters
• 2:17
  Speaker 4: that he ended up facing. Seventy one of his one
• 2:20
  Speaker 4: hundred and five pitches were strikes. And with Brandon Young,
• 2:24
  Speaker 4: this isn't a guy with spectacular nasty stuff per se.
• 2:29
  Speaker 4: But if you just pounce the strike zone, if you
• 2:32
  Speaker 4: end up being fearless, you give yourself a chance. And
• 2:35
  Speaker 4: I thought it was really interesting going back a few
• 2:38
  Speaker 4: weeks at this point where he had the blow up
• 2:41
  Speaker 4: start against the Astros, and he really took that to
• 2:44
  Speaker 4: heart and a lot of those runs ended up being
• 2:46
  Speaker 4: unearned and there were a lot of defensive miscues, but
• 2:49
  Speaker 4: it was very hard on himself. And oh man, I
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: feel like I got past that point where last year,
• 2:55
  Speaker 4: you know, he'd have a spectacular start like he was
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: in Houston where yeah, he almost had a no hitter,
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: and then a blow up start where it's just been
• 3:03
  Speaker 4: so consistent for him. Guys, Like if you would have
• 3:07
  Speaker 4: told me back in March that on May twenty fourth,
• 3:12
  Speaker 4: Brandon Young would have the best er on the starting rotation.
• 3:15
  Speaker 4: I would have said that no way, no way, right,
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: Kyle Braddish and Trevor Rodgers and and you know Boz
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: and Bassett and Efflin at that point. But here we are,
• 3:25
  Speaker 4: and he is the only starting pitcher with a sub
• 3:28
  Speaker 4: for Era on the Orioles.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: That's quite remarkable and much to his credit and much needed,
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: because in a time when others are not pitching as expected,
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: he's pitching better than expected. So it's a nice surprise.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: He was the minor league pitcher of the Year a
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, but he's never been a big,
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: highly ranked prospect or someone throwing ninety eight or as
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: you said, Tim has to blow you away stuff. But
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: he's doing what he needs to win. I think, Brad
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: you called it there. Fastballs at the tops, litters at
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: the bottom. This change he'd made with his split today
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: was pretty impressive. I've not seen very often from one
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: start to another a five mile an hour difference in velocity.
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: His splitter was averaging eighty seven point seven miles per
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: hour this year, but eighty two point eight today, and
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: Statcas tells us it was getting thirty inches of drop today,
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: thirty eight, so he eased off the gas and got
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: better movement. That's got to be some real trial and er,
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: I would think, or some real data work by the
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: pitching coaches brad to come up with what led to
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: what we saw today.
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think when you uh, the biggest number
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: I saw there like he obviously the vertical drop was
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: a lot, but his horizontal run they showed on the
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: TV and it was I think like.
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: Six inches less.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: And when you're throwing flour seamers like he does, you
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: want less run and more drop. And so, like you said,
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of trial and it's probably different grips.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: It's probably figuring out where to start the pitch. But
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: to me, it's watching his those like old school pitching.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: And by old school, I mean like when I played,
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: it was inside outside, up, down, push pull, so you
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: get it. Basically, it's just speeding hitters up and slowing
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: them down, going up, going down, going in and going out.
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: And it's just to me, I love watching that kind
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: of pitching. Like you said, he doesn't have blow you
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: away stuff, but he just uses the shrike zones so
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: well and he's just proving that you don't need to
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: have this unbelievable stuff to have success at the major
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: league level. They always say that if you can locate pitches,
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: you can do it for a long time, and it's
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: it's the tail's oldest time in baseball, and he's proven
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: that right now. I love to see it, and especially
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: a guy that after he made that start with the Astros,
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: there were some roster moves that had to be made
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: there and for him to turn a season around the
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: way he did, this guy's going nowhere. And I think
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: I love seeing stuff like that happen in a season
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: and really really happy for him, and it's great to
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: see him out there with this confidence that he has.
• 5:57
  Speaker 4: Man focusing in on that though, that's splittering, and how
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: he made that big of an adjustment between his last
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: start in terms of the grip, in terms like how
• 6:07
  Speaker 4: much does a pitcher tinker with that in season at
• 6:11
  Speaker 4: this point a month and a half, you know, almost
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: two months in.
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, honestly, it might not be. It might
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: not be this crazy pitch change. It could just be
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: today maybe that's what it was. I think you'd have
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: to see it again next start to see if there's
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: that drastic difference or maybe just today it was just
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: really good. I don't know, it's it's one of those things,
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: like you're saying in between starts like that, that is
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: a that's a Jurassic change between the velocity and the
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: drop he was getting.
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: So to me, that tells me he's doing something different
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: with the grip.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: But I'll be interested to see his next start if
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: it's if it's still in that range, or if the
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: velocity ticks up a little bit and he doesn't have
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: as much drop. But there's just some things where your
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: stuff is just better, period, and you don't know it
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: until you're warming up or even when you get out
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: on the mound. So maybe it was just a good
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: day for the splitter. Maybe there's more humidity.
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it's just one of those things where.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: Everything just kind of lined up and it was it
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: was a great pitch today for him.
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: It's interesting, and we don't know this answer as we
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: tape this, but I wonder if that's been in the
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: works for a while and he broke it out today,
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: this grip, because it seems fast to go from one
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: start to another, all these different velocities and so forth.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that can happen, Brad, or maybe it
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: was something that was on the cutting room floor and
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: then today it made it into the film.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what it honestly could have been too,
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: is he's maybe working on two different ones.
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: And wasn't ready to break it out in the game.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: But he's been doing this work for weeks or a
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: month or two months at this point, but he finally
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: felt comfortable trying a new grip or trying to throw
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: it a different way, and today was the day to
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: try it and it worked out really well. So hopefully
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: he can continue doing that and whatever he did today
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: hopefully can do the next start because it was really
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: fun and impressive to watch.
• 7:54
  Speaker 4: I just think with Brandon young guys, it's just really impressive,
• 7:58
  Speaker 4: you know, in terms of him taking advantage of this opportunity.
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: And it goes back to a conversation that we've been
• 8:05
  Speaker 4: having for a while about this team in terms of
• 8:08
  Speaker 4: there's been a lot of guys that have stepped up
• 8:11
  Speaker 4: with these opportunities, but they still find themselves where they are,
• 8:15
  Speaker 4: and that is seven games below five hundred.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah they do. And so the Ools come out of
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: that doubleheader guys with a record of twenty three and
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: thirty and overall they have lost fifteen of their last
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: twenty three, just eight and fourteen in May after losing
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: Game two. Now, we want to remind everyone watching Birdland
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: Territory we're closing in here on one thousand subscribers, the
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: next big goal for us as we charge towards seven
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: hundred and then hopefully eight, nine hundred and one thousand.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: So appreciate all of you that follow the show. I
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: hear a lot of great comments as I travel around
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: Baltimore and from people at the ballgames there are enjoy
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: watching Birdland Territory. So if you have not yet subscribed,
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: please dose follow us on our podcast networks as well
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: and help get us to a thousand subscribers, a great
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: number we are shooting for. Let's go back to Game
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: one in the end, which was also pretty exciting. Colton
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: Cawncer has had it for kind of forgettable year, and
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: then on an O two pitch from a future Hall
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: of Famer Kenley Jensen, he hit one four forty. I mean,
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: you can't draw that up where you can't right predict that.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: Talk about unexpected, but what a swing that was for
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: Cowser today. Almost hope that gets some going and extended
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: run of some success here.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be awesome to see him get gold
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: and they could use him desperately just because of his power,
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: because of his defense, because of everything he brings to
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: locker room. He's one of those guys that you can
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: tell they rally around that. I mean, that was the
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: great reaction by the dugout.
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: They were so pumped for him.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: Manager had a lot to say of him working really
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: hard the last two months to try to get a
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: swing where he wanted it to be. And then of
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: all pitches, Kenny Jensen, known for his cutters to been
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: throwing it for fifteen years now, and he gets a
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: two scene where that he tried to sneak by him
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: and he was ready for it. He just dropped the
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: head on it, and I mean he absolutely crushed that ball.
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: It just it goes to show that Colton cows are
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: it's there. It's it's more about just making more contact
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: because the power's there, It's always going to be there.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: That's kind of what his swing is right there, just
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: dropping the head down in the zone.
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: And he can really give the ball right.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: But that was a great swing, great win, and at
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: a time they really needed it. I mean, think about
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: the conversation we'd be happening tonight if he doesn't hit
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: that ball and he pops it up or strikes out.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: It's I mean, twenty three and thirty as opposed to
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: twenty two and thirty one.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: It's it's kind of a drastic difference there. Holton cows would.
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: Be Guys, it's just one of the biggest X factors
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: in this lineup because we've seen him when he's at
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: his best. He can go on stretches for weeks where
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: he's really carrying the ball club and we know what
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: he brings from a defensive perspective, but this is a
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: very athletic player. This is someone that can steal bag
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: if he gets on and we know that the raw
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: power is there and it has not been the start
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: of the season that Colden Kowser would have won it.
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: But if you look back over his last ten games, guys,
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: he's got a nine to eighty two ops. He's got
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: hits in five of his last six games, including that
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: big walk off. So if he can start trending in
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: the right direction, I think that that would do wonders
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: for this lineup because you have him slotted in the
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: bottom third, and that's someone that can help turn this
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: lineup back over.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: And it's been a quite a fall here for Colton
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: because if you go back to twenty twenty four, when
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: he was second for the Rookie of the Year, ops
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: was seven sixty eight, I mean, he looked like he
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: was really on his way, and then he fell off
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: to six fifty five and twenty twenty five and this
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: year at game time today, five point thirty and exit
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Velocity's down. He's you know, his career k raps over thirty.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: So there are things to clean up and things that
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: make you wonder if he's gonna do it long term.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: But also I think with Kowser, I think there's a
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: will there, a drive there, and a one two there
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: that is hidden under the scenes, a little bit that's
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: gonna have to serve him well here. I mean, Brad,
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: any young player has to deal with ups and downs,
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: and Kowser's had extended downs here. But today was a
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: big up for him and maybe work paid.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: Off, yeah, for sure.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: And it's almost after these games I was wondering the
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: lineup seems to change so much day to day.
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: We don't see Basaillo in there every day. We don't
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: see Kowser in there every day.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: It kind of just seems to be moving around with
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: them not being able to score a ton of runs
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: on a consistent basis. Do you think there's any world
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: where they just say we're gonna run these same at
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: least eight guys out there every game, or this is
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: kind of just how they do it.
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: They've been doing it.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: You guys have obviously watched way more games the last
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: couple of years. Is it kind of just how the
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: front office likes to do it. They like to do matchups,
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: They like lefties facing right e's. Is that just kind
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: of how it was going to be? Because I just
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: I keep looking at the lineup changes every day and
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: it's you just never get the same The first four
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: or five are always the same, and then after that,
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: so you just kind of never know who's going to
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: be what slot.
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's definitely organizational guys where I know Craig
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: Albernas was asked about that a couple of weeks ago
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: about I know, gosh, through the first thirty thirty five games,
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: I think the Orioles only used the same lineup twice.
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: I want to say, and Albernas was kind of pointing
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: that out, and Brad, this is a team that's definitely
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: leaned very heavy into platoons.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: But I am kind of with you where I.
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: Just feel like players can be creatures of habit, and
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: you know, guys toggling between multiple different positions, guys moving
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: all up and down the lineup and not getting that
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: consistent run. I'm sure that has to affect some of
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: the players. I think it's definitely a fair point to
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: point out that consistency could do some of these guys wonders.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just an observation I made.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Like I said, it's it's you guys have obviously really
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: extensively watched this team for years now, and it's just
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: kind of the better teams I was on seem to
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: have a way more consistent lineup. And I know that's
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: a little different Baseball's change with the way they platoon
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: guys and stuff. It almost seems like they're purtuning guys
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: in the minor leagues where if they struggle against left
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: these they're only going to face righty's when they get
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: the triple A. But it was just one of those
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: thoughts I had that like, maybe just run them out
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: there for seven games in a row and see what happens,
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: because they obviously like the guys on the team, obviously
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: like Holdon and they love to see him go out
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: there and do more for the team. But today was
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: a great start, and ipe I hope a jump starts
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: to the point where that he forces himself to have
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: to play every day.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: I also think it's a fair question to ask, and
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: we know that this is a defense that has really
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: struggled throughout the year for the Orioles, where do you
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: almost want to go with more of the glove first guy,
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: because with Dylan Beavers being on the il, we know
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Tyler O'Neil is really really struggling right now. So it
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: is it almost just more prudent put the guy more
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: of a sure thing of a defender and Colden Cows
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: are out there, and especially now that he is swinging
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: the bat better of late.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see I think here.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things where I think
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: everything has to be on the table with where they're
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: at record wise, and with it from.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Getting close to June.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I just think that with like we keep talking about
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: the talent on this roster at some point you just
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: got to be like, we gotta try something else. I
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: don't know, it's just it's it's funny looking at in
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: the outside, Like on the team, you're not thinking about that.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: You just whenever you're told to play, you play. You
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: don't question anything. You just go along with it.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: But just being like on the outside now and kind
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: of looking at it out the roster's made up and
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: watching how much just talent is out there, it's just
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: it makes you wonder if they you know, you gotta
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: put all the cards out there, because we're almost June
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: and next thing they'll be June fifteenth and July, and
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: it's like you just don't want to look at your
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: where you're at in the standings and be just out
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: But come that point with just such a talented roster
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: like they have, I got to.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Think within the clubhouse, with the hitting coaches and the hitters,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: they're thinking, like you're thinking, Brad, we should be better
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: than what the numbers are saying. The first five in
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that lineup, that's pretty solid five, and a couple of
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: them are starting to swing it better now, gunn are
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: swinging it better. Alonzo's hit a couple of home runs
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: lately beside who's been on a tear, and then you
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: got guys at the bottom who can swing it and
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: have swung it, and so why isn't it adding up?
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Like today, they scored three runs or less in the
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: second game, they're four and twenty two. So they just
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: got to scratch you out a couple more than they're
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: getting and right now, whatever is lacking there, I don't
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: think we have the answers, and I don't think they
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: have the answers right now.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it seems like they'll go a game
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: where they hit with thruners in scoring position and they
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: just can't. We've talked about it multiple times. It's just
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: like grabbing the momentum of the season. I know it's
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: every game. They kind of look at every game's individual game,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: but if there was every momentum swing, I felt.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Like that swing from Cold today was it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Like that was a moment they were looking for from
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: a guy they were expecting to produce and hopefully have
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: a you know, a comeback season, and he hits a
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: huge homer to walk it off heading into the double header,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: you almost wish it was a just a double header
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: right after each other, because you feel like that three
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: hour gap in between the games just kind of like
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: sucked life. It just it seemed like the life was
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: kind of just blow there in the second game, just
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: kind of all together, the weather.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: It was just it just didn't feel like it.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: The energy was there after that kind of a walk
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: off win, and if you're the Orioles, they.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Just got to find a way to continue to win
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: these series. Steve where, Yes, this is a very very
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: struggling Tigers team that came into Camden Yards and the
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: O's won the series. Wasn't the most esthetically pleasing series
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: in the world, absolutely not, but you took two of
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: three and now you just got to continue to stack it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: And the Rays come to town tomorrow for Memorial Day.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And you know the last episode that we did, guys,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: you know that was following that the gut punch of
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: a loss on Wednesdays. So we've seen this team come
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: out a couple weeks ago when the Yankees killed them
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: in that four game series, they came back and they
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: won the series against the Yankees in Baltimore, and you're
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: hoping that you can do the same with the Rays
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: come to town beginning tomorrow.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Let's touch on that in a minute. Let's touch on
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: game two. Trevor Rodgers was good a lot today, but
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: there are a couple key swings which did him in.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: We'll touch you on that and more coming up on
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Birdland Territory.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: This episode is brought to you by fan Duel Baseball Fans.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: The MLB season is in full swing and fan Duel
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: is giving you a chance to call your shot with
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Daily Dingers. Joining the action is easy. Just make your
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: free pick on who's hitting a home run in their game,
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: and if you're right, you'll get a profit boost to
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: use on your next bet for a chance at extra winnings.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: It's just another reason why fan duel is the home
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: of home runs. So are you ready to play your game?
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Head over to FanDuel dot com Slash podcast to get started.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: That's FanDuel dot com Slash Podcast. To opt in for
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Daily Dingers and make your free pick on who's hitting
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: a homer. Playball and swing for the fences on FanDuel,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: an official partner of Major League Baseball. No purchase necessary,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: opten required. Bonus issued as non withdrawable profit boost tokens
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: restrictions apply, including any token expiration and max wager amount.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: See terms at sportsbook dot FanDuel dot com. Gambling problem
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: call or text one eight hundred gambler.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just not sure how to characterize Trevor Rodgers star today,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: so I want to hear from you guys on it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I can't make up my mind whether they pitch you
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: well or not, and I think he did a little
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: bit of both. The final box score shows four and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: two thirds, four runs, two walks to strikeouts, a two
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: run homer by Dylan Dingler in the first inning, the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: key two run single by Kevin McGonagall with two outs
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of the bases loaded in the fifth, which knocked him
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: out of the game. In between, it looked at times
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: like his old self. How did you guys see it?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: For me, I think it was two pitches.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's hard to look at that start and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: like not just think about the home run and the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: hit that knocked him out of the game, because to me,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: this two strike, two out thing is just unbelievable at
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: this point, Like I remember guys going through a couple
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: outings or a couple of starts having this problem but
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it's been i mean a couple of months story with him,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it's been everything has happened with two outs and two strikes.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: It almost seems like and it's just one of those things. Tim,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: you said you sent the picture of where that pitch
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: was on the home run. Maybe there is something because
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's where you want to throw that pitch.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: He threw it down and in where he was trying
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: to was throwing right to the location. I don't know
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: if that's just where guys are looking for pitches there.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I really don't know at this point, because I feel
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: like there's got to be something because he showed who
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: he who he can be there in those middle innings
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in the second, third, fourth inning before he got in trouble,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and it's that pitcher is there. It's just these two
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: or three pitches a game. It seems to be like
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: that causes everything to go awry, and it's just he
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: he has got to be beyond frustrate at this point
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: because I'm sure he's Dovan and everything. I'm sure the
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: pitching coaches of Dovan and everything, and it's at this
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: point it's just it's it's become longer than just the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: kind of freak thing that's happening.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: And this this is a sixth start run now, and
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, Steve. There were flashes. You saw a
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: More from Trevor Rodgers today.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: But he just needs a clean first inning at this
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: point because it gets to the conversation that we continue
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: to have this team just playing from behind and trailing
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: and you give up the home run in the first
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: inning it's two to nothing. He was able to settle
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: in for a little bit there. But something that's been
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: more evident for me, especially over these last two starts,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: and you look at the season total, the change up
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: just hasn't been there for him. And the change up
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: was a really, really good pitch for him last year,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: and it's just getting hit. You know, opposing batters are
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: hitting three thirty three off his change up this year
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: compared to two h two last year. And that was
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: where the majority of the hard contact was on in
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: this game, Guys, you know the change up. You saw
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: four balls hard hit. Four of the eight were a
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: hard hit with the change up, and he's just not
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: fooling anybody with him.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't like the cutter in the first inning. The
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: only reason I say that it was a two to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: one count. It broke right into his bat right where
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: he was swinging. It was eighty three, and I think
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that helped Dylan Dingler sit on that pitch two to one.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: He might have been sitting cutter knows he's had a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: tough time with his cutter. And he hit it out okay,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And did he tip his pitch? I think he just
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: threw a poor pitch. That's what my individual take is
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it It wasn't executed as it should have been. And
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: in the McGonagall pitch, he was ahead one into he
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: missed with two sweepers. He wanted to get him out
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: on a sleeper.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: But he did locate it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Then came that change up to him you just mentioned,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: and it was just high enough that he could get
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: back the ball. And this kid's having a great year
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and he did it. So this is one of those
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: games I colmost hate when I hear pitchers say one
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: or two pitches beat me.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: But this was one of those games.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: That's what it was, exactly one or two pitches and
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: you know it's no sorry.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Hopefully he can he can build off that and and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: he'll think that way and think most of my pitches
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: were good today, but but I don't know. It might
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: be tough for him to think that way now after
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: some rough outings.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's funny you mentioned the cutter.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I went to a cutter later in my career when
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I was having trouble against lefties, trying to use it
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: as a you know, pitches kind of neutralized them again.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And I was talking to Richard Bleier, who threw a
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: great cutters.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: But he told me it's a Homer pitch and it's
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: He's like.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: So it's it's one of it's like a it's it's
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a great pitch to help you get to what you
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: want to but when it's there to hit, it's a
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: home run pitch. And I got beat on it multiple times,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and his voice kept coming into my head every time
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I would give up one on it. It's like you're
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: trying to set It's not the pitch you're trying to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: get the guy out on. You're trying to set something
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: else up on it. Instead of leaving it over the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: plate like he did, he probably wanted it more in
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: He probably the first to tell you was the location
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: where it ended up on the box. Correct, Yes, but
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I agree with Steve. The shape of it was very
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: hit able. It was on the plate the entire time.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: It didn't have that late sharp break. It was more
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: of like a dull kind of sweeping action. That cutters
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: is not what you want to throw, So I know
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: that experience.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: With the cutter.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: At times, it's got to be in there to kind
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: of get to the change up, which is probably what
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: he was trying to do. And then when you get
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: beat on that cutter, you just kick yourself because it's like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: why not just go to the change up right there
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: or whatever pitch he was trying to throw instead, So
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: it's just frustrating at this point, he's got to be
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: so frustrated. I went through stretches like this and my career,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and it's just you go home and you just you
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: turn over it and you just think about, like, gosh,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: like what is going on here? It's it seems unlucky,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: it seems like I think the big up bat was
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: mcconnall with mcconagall with the one two count. I think
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: those two miss sliders really set the tone for that
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: at that because he had to be in the zone.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: After that, do you get out of it?
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Brad you know when when you've had those type of
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: tough stretches, and obviously it's different as starter compared to
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: a reliever. I get that, and he.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Has to stew on it even more.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I know you've you've talked about that in the past, Brad,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: But how did you get out of it?
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: What do you do?
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: What do you look at it?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: It's it's really just being able to flush the past.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And it's like getting that one out for me, it
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: was like one or two outings could change my just
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: how I was thinking about everything.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And it's just having success.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Like he's pitched for long enough at this point in
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: his career that you just have that success breed success
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and like you know, like the luck just kind of
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: starts following your way once you have these that line
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: drive that used to be by the shortstop is now
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: to the shortstop or the second basement. It's just base
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: off is such a weird sport when it comes to that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: It's like the hard hit rates and everything. At the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: end of the day, it doesn't mean anything because if
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: you hit it at somebody, it's an out and you
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: just kind of like, oh great, I got I put
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: up a zero today and now all of a sudden,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about that out and completely different than if
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you hit the ball two feet.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Through his left and is a base hit.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: So for me, it was really just kind of stacking
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a couple outings together and to kind of get my
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: confidence back and then from there I could kind of roll.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: But it's just at this point, it's been a long
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: it's been a long period of time.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know how starters can go through stretches like this.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: For me, if as a reliever, if you're six weeks
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: going bad, you're probably on a different team at this point.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know how you are able
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to just move on and get by this one. But
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: it's he just got to keep going out there and
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: hopefully things start going his way. And like you said,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is getting out of that
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: first inding without any runs, because then from there he's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: put together a good second and third innings. It's kind
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: of been running into trouble in the fourth and fifth.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: It's been the first, the fourth and fifth for him
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: that really have just caused a lot of trouble.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Let's look ahead. Tampa Bay Rays are coming to Baltimore
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: for a series that begins on Memorial Day. We'll check
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: in on that next on Birdland Territory.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Big Bad Morning Show, Vinnie and Haney, Inside Access Live
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: on YouTube weekdays six till six search Baltimore one O
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: five seven the Fan, Subscribe for daily Short's right to
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: your phone and never miss what you missed one five
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: seven the Fan.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the oil record, guys, they're
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: doing okay against under five hundred teams, less against the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: better ones. So here's another chance to start to turn
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: that around. They got swept in New York and then
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: they beat the Yankees in Baltimore. Up they got swept
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: at Tampa Saint Pete. Now they'll try to beat the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Rays in Baltimore. What do you make of the upcoming series.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's you got to kind of look
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: at the same as the Yankees. You can't really worry
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: about the week before. You just got to go out
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: there and play these games individually. And like Tim said
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: earlier in the episode, you won the series. Maybe it
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't the most sexy wins they've had, the season, but
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: they won a series. You just got to back it up,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and that's the only way they're going to get back
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: in this thing is by winning series. You can't worry
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: about sweeps, you can't worry about putting together winning streaks.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You just got to win two out of three. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's the mentality it has to be at
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: this point. It's it's fight or flight at this We've
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: been talking about for a couple weeks, but it's to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: me it is fight or flight time, Like this is
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the next four or five six weeks is going to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: determine this season. And it's really coming down here that
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: if you start getting swept by the Rays and then
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you have to face Toronto after that, it's these games
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to start getting stacked up without the rest. And I
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: think today with Albert Suarez that was a huge audience
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: is going to have huge dividends coming here the rest
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: of the week.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Totally completely agree, but yeah, you look at this upcoming stretch,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: it's a ton of division games. You got the Rays
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: and you get the Blue Jays, then the Red Sox,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: then the Blue Jays. So it's a ton of division games.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: And we know that this team has really struggled against
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: American League's opponents to start this year, and you got
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: to turn it around. You know it. This series that
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: they just had against the Rays, it was a lot
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: different than the the Orioles Yankees series where that was
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: extremely one sided. I know the first game got away
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: from the the O's where it ended up being sixteen
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: to six. But you look at the latter part of
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: those final two games. You had a two run lead
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: heading into the eighth inning and a heck of a
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: lot more often than not you expect to close out
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: that game. And we saw some defensive mistakes, you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Colden Kwser booting around a ball, a ball just getting
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: beyond his outstretched glove in the second game that led
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to a couple of tack on runs where it was
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: definitely a lot more winnable prior to that. So it's
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: just avoiding beating yourself man like that. That's got to
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: be the biggest thing. You cannot afford to beat yourself
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: and give ex outs, give an extra ninety feet to
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: a team like the Rays that just does all of
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: the little things so well.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: And the Ools saw that firsthand at the trap. They'll
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: see if they can turn it here. As the Rays
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: come to Baltimore, it looks like it'll be Bradish and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Boz in the first two, that's what projects to be,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and we'll see how it plays out. So maybe with
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Bradish and Bos going better, Brandon Young is certainly going better,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you get a fourth in there all of a sudden,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: maybe you have the makings of a bit of a
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: run for the rotation. Then the offense starts to do
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: its part. That's the hope as we roll on through
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: this season and the Oils try to dig out of
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a bit of a hole here in the standings, even
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: though in the wild card they're not so far out
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: as we know. Versus Pasid pointed that out and he's
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: certainly not wrong. So let's see how it goes the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: next few days. Guys. We'll reconvene shortly and talk to
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you again those fans, so thanks for watching today again.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Subscribe to Birdland Territory, follow us on the podcast networks,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and we'll see you for our next show soon on
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Birdland Territory.