Latest / Legacy Living with Dr. Gloria Burgess / Celebrating Joy Harjo | Episode #390
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- 0:21Hello, and welcome to today's show, Legacy Living, Make Your Life Count.
- 0:28I'm your host, Doctor Gloria. Gloria Burgess, international leadership expert and
- 0:36trusted advisor. Welcome to Legacy Living, Make your Life Count. I'm so
- 0:45delighted that you joined me today. I want to give a big thank you
- 0:49to those of you who are listening, and a great big shout out to
- 0:53all of you listening around the world. I'm delighted and so grateful that you're
- 0:57here. I sure hope you're enjoying a fabulous day and that you're having a
- 1:03fantastic week, because, you know what, in the grand song of the
- 1:07universe, life is so short. It's short, sweet and very precious.
- 1:12So I hope you're making a difference in your own life because when you do,
- 1:18you also make a difference in somebody else's life. Now, a lot
- 1:22of us, a lot of us really want to make our life count for
- 1:26something, but we don't know how or how to begin. So folks ask
- 1:32me, doctor Gloria, how do you make your life count? Well,
- 1:38it's very simple, very simple. You make your life count day by day,
- 1:44step by step, moment by moment, every single day. Three sixty
- 1:49five, twenty four seven. Now, I'll say more about that later on.
- 1:57Right now, it's time to step back and listen in that's right,
- 2:01it's time to hit the pause button. It's time for today's episode, which
- 2:07is all about music and poetry. Now, I want you to imagine that
- 2:13we're in the same room, maybe it's your living room or kitchen, and
- 2:16I'm sitting across the table from you. I'm pouring you a cup of tea
- 2:22or coffee, and we're about to have a wonderful cup of what matters.
- 2:29So again, today's focus is all about the power of music and poetry.
- 2:35Music and poetry. Now, today's episode focuses on one of my favorite people
- 2:40on the planet. Her name is Joy Harjo. Her life is what legacy
- 2:49living, make your life count is all about. Now, most of us
- 2:53know Miss Harjo as a wonderful poet and musician and activists. Well, I
- 3:00know her as a poet and musician and activist extraordinaire. I also know Miss
- 3:08Joy as a smart, funny and fiercely lit soul. For me, she
- 3:15expanded and amplified my understanding about the intertwined power of music and poetry. And
- 3:23she showed up in my life at a time where it made a difference for
- 3:28me. Now, I had the good fortune to meet miss Joy Harjoe many
- 3:34many years ago when we were both featured poets at the Scadget River Poetry Festival.
- 3:40I recall that experience as though it happened just a few weeks ago.
- 3:46I remember seeing her take the stage in her black shirt and black jeans and
- 3:51black boots and turquoise earrings and turquoise beads around her neck. She had something
- 3:59else around her neck as well, and that was her axe, right,
- 4:02that was her saxophone. So when she took the stage, the first sound
- 4:08I heard were not the words of her poems, but the music of her
- 4:13soul, which is poetry too. I heard that music wailing from her saxophone.
- 4:19And I play saxophone too, so I'm thinking, Wow, I've never
- 4:24heard poems come out of the saxophone like that before. What I heard was
- 4:30the poetry and the music of earth and sky and rivers and streams in the
- 4:36voice of that saxophone. I heard Miss Harjoe screaming love songs to the sun,
- 4:45and I heard her crooning nighttime memories to the moon. Oh yes,
- 4:53I heard the music of poetry and the poetry of music. And they were
- 4:59like two love dancing like there's no tomorrow. There was no light, there
- 5:05was no separation between them. It was in Miss Harjo's music that I learned
- 5:15about her poems, and in her poems that I learned about her music,
- 5:19and I understood that both were as necessary as air. Did you know that
- 5:33miss Harjo is the first poet from Indian country to become Poet Laureate of the
- 5:41United States. Yeah, that's right, And she's the second poet, only
- 5:46the second poet to hold that post for three consecutive terms. Now, Miss
- 5:55Joy has many many worthy tributes, prizes and accolades. But the best way
- 6:01to introduce this very special human being, this very special poet, is not
- 6:05by sharing her many many accolades. The best way to introduce Joy Harjoe is
- 6:12through her own words, through her own poetry, which is music, which
- 6:17is music, which is music. The first poem I'd like to share is
- 6:26called Remember Remember. Remember the sky you were born under. Know each of
- 6:39the stars stories. Remember the Moon, Know who she is? I met
- 6:48her in a bar once in Iowa City. Remember the Sun's birth at dawn.
- 6:58That is the strongest point of time. Remember sundown and the giving away
- 7:04tonight. Remember your birth, how your mother struggled to give you form and
- 7:13breath. You are evidence of her life and her mother's and hers. Remember
- 7:23your father, he is your life. Also remember the earth, whose skin
- 7:32you are. Red earth, black earth, yellow earth, white earth,
- 7:39brown earth. We are Earth. Remember the plants, trees, animal life,
- 7:48who all have their tribes, their families, their histories. To talk
- 7:57to them, listen to them, they are alive poems. Remember the wind.
- 8:09Remember her voice, she knows the origin of the universe. I heard
- 8:16her singing Kiawa war dance songs at the corner of Fourth and Central once.
- 8:26Remember you are all people, and that all people are you. Remember you
- 8:33are this universe, and that this universe is you. Remember all is in
- 8:41motion, is growing is you. Remember all language comes from this. Remember
- 8:52the dance. That language is, that life is Remember m Remember. In
- 9:15this beautiful poem, Miss Joy distills so many lessons, lessons perhaps she learned
- 9:24as a child, lessons we would do well to refresh for ourselves, Lessons
- 9:31about the symbiotic relationship of human beings to all things, all essences, all
- 9:39presences, all prayers, all people. The music of the repeated word.
- 9:46Remember is a summons, a calling to us all to do just that.
- 9:52Remember remember here where is that poem? Again? Remember Remember the sky that
- 10:09you were born under. Know each of the star's stories. Remember the moon.
- 10:18Know who she is. I met her in a bar once in Iowa
- 10:24City. Remember the Sun's birth at dawn, that is the strongest point of
- 10:31time. Remember sundown and the giving away tonight. Remember your birth, how
- 10:41your mother struggled to give you form and breath. You are evidence of her
- 10:48life, and her mother's and hers. Remember your father, he is your
- 10:58life. Also, remember the earth, whose skin you are. Red earth,
- 11:05black earth, yellow earth, white earth, brown earth. We are
- 11:09Earth. Remember the plants, trees, animal life, who all have their
- 11:18tribes, their families, their histories too. Talk to them, listen to
- 11:26them. They are alive poems. Remember the wind. Remember her voice,
- 11:35she knows the origin of the universe. I heard her singing kiawah war dance
- 11:43songs at the corner of fourth and Central ones. Remember you are all people,
- 11:52and that all people are you. Remember that you are this universe,
- 12:01and that this universe is you. Remember all is in motion, is growing
- 12:09is you? Remember all language comes from this remember the dance. That language
- 12:20is, that life is remember Remember. Another one of my favorite poems by
- 12:46Miss Harjo is one of her more recent poems. This one is from her
- 12:52collection called Conflict Resolution for Holy Beings. I love the title of that book,
- 13:01don't you Conflict Resolution for Holy Beings? And the title of this next
- 13:07poem is called for calling the spirit back home from wandering the earth in its
- 13:13human feet. Yeah, for calling the spirit back home from wandering the earth
- 13:26in its human feet. Put down that bag of potato chips, that white
- 13:35bread, that bottle of pop. Turn off that cell phone, computer and
- 13:41remote control. Open the door, then close it behind you. Take a
- 13:52breath offered by friendly winds. They travel the earth, gathering senses of plant
- 14:03to clean, give it back with gratitude. If you sing, it will
- 14:13give your spirit lift to fly to the star's ears and back. Acknowledge this
- 14:20earth, who has cared for you since you were a dream, planting itself
- 14:26precisely within your parents' desire. Let your moccasin feet take you to the encampment
- 14:35of the guardians who have known you before time, who will be there after
- 14:41time. They sit before the fire that has been there without time. Let
- 14:50the earth stabilize your postcolonial insecure jitters. Be respectful of the small insects,
- 15:00birds, and animal people who accompany you. Ask their forgiveness for the harm
- 15:07we humans have brought down upon them. Don't worry. The heart knows the
- 15:16way. Though there may be high rises, interstates, checkpoints, armed soldiers,
- 15:24massacres, wars, and those who will despise you because they despise themselves.
- 15:31The journey might take you a few hours a day, a year,
- 15:37a few years, one hundred, a thousand, or even more. Watch
- 15:45your mind, without training, it might run away and leave your heart for
- 15:52the immense human feast set by the thieves of time. Do not hold regrets.
- 16:03When you find your way to the circle, to the fire kept burning
- 16:07by the keepers of your soul, you will be welcomed. You must clean
- 16:14yourself with cedar sage or other healing plants. Cut the ties you have to
- 16:22failure and shame. Let go the pain you are holding in your mind,
- 16:29your shoulders, your heart, all the way to your feet. Let go
- 16:34the pain of your ancestors. To make way for those who are heading in
- 16:40our direction. Ask for forgiveness, Call upon the help of those who love
- 16:49you. These helpers take many forms, animal element, bird, angel,
- 16:57saint, stone, or ancestor. Call your spirit back. It may be
- 17:08caught in corners, increases of shame, judgment, and human abuse. You
- 17:17must call in a way that your spirit will want to return. Speak to
- 17:23it as you would to a beloved child. Welcome your spirit back from its
- 17:30wandering. It may return in pieces, in tatters. Gather them together.
- 17:41They will be happy to be found after being lost for so long. Your
- 17:48spirit will need to sleep awhile after it is bathed and given clean clothes.
- 17:55Now you can have a party. Invite every one you know who loves you
- 18:00and supports you. Keep room for those who have no place else to go,
- 18:07make a giveaway, and remember, keep the speeches short. Then you
- 18:15must do this, help the next person find their way through the dark.
- 18:29Help the next person find their way through the dark. In other words,
- 18:41be the difference who makes the difference in your own life and then in somebody
- 18:48else's life. I love this poem because it is just filled with the music
- 18:56of surrender, letting, go longing. The music is filled with poetry,
- 19:10the poetry of refreshment, renewal, remorse, and belonging. And once again,
- 19:19Miss Harjo reminds us that music and poetry. Poetry and music are absolutely
- 19:26inseparable. Now, if we're walking through a gallery and taking in a painting
- 19:37or sculpture, we can pause and consider that painting or sculpture for a good
- 19:44long while. But the words of a poem, the notes of music,
- 19:49they just fly away. They fly away from us as soon after they land
- 19:59on our Well, if you like hearing poems like I do, I encourage
- 20:06you to download my podcasts so you can listen again and again. And if
- 20:11you'd like to hear poems read on the poet's own breath, you can go
- 20:15to any good poetry website and listen to a recording. For example, you
- 20:21can find audio and video recordings of Miss Harjo sharing some of her poems.
- 20:27How cool is that? So here are two more poems by Joy Harjo.
- 20:36These poems are also among my favorites. This first poem is called Grace.
- 20:42Grace for Darlene Wind and James Welch. I think of Wind and her wild
- 20:53ways, the year we had nothing to lose and lost it anyway in the
- 21:00first country of the Fox. We still talk about that winter, how the
- 21:07cold froze imaginary buffalo, and the stuffed horizon of snowbanks, the haunting voices
- 21:14of the starved and mutilated, broke fences crashed our thermostat dreams, and we
- 21:19couldn't stand it one more time. So once again we lost a winter in
- 21:27stubborn memory, walked through cheap apartment walls, skated through fields of ghosts into
- 21:36a town that never wanted us. In the epic search for grace. Like
- 21:45coyote, like rabbit, we could not contain our terror and clowned our way
- 21:51through a season of false midnights. We had to swallow that town with laughter,
- 21:59so it go down easy as honey. And one morning, as the
- 22:04sun struggled to break ice and our dreams had found us with coffee and pancakes
- 22:11in a truck stop along Highway eighty, we found grace. I could say
- 22:19Grace was a woman with time on our hands, or a white buffalo escaped
- 22:25from memory, But in that dingy light, it was a promise of balance.
- 22:33We once again understood the talk of animals, and spring was lean and
- 22:40hungry with the hope of children and corn. I would like to say,
- 22:47with grace, we picked ourselves up and walked into the spring fall. We
- 22:53didn't. The next season was worse. You went home, home to Leech
- 23:00Lake to work with the tribe, and I went south. And when I
- 23:07am still crazy, I know there is something larger than the memory of a
- 23:14dispossessed people. We have seen it. I know there is something larger than
- 23:33the memory of a dispossessed people. We have seen it. Grace. This
- 23:55next poem, This next poem is called Eagle Poem, Egle poem. To
- 24:08pray you open your whole self to sky, to Earth, to sun,
- 24:15to moon, to one whole voice that is you, and know there is
- 24:25more that you can't see, can't hear, can't know except in moments steadily
- 24:33growing, and in languages that aren't always sound, but other circles of motion,
- 24:41Like Eagle that Sunday morning over salt River, circled in blue sky and
- 24:48wind swept our hearts clean with sacred wings, we see you, see our
- 24:59sun, and know that we must take the utmost care and kindness in all
- 25:06things. Breathe in, knowing we are made of all this, and breathe
- 25:17knowing we are truly blessed because we were born and die soon within a true
- 25:30circle of motion, like eagle rounding out the morning inside us, we pray
- 25:40that it will be done in beauty, in beauty, Eagle poem. Here
- 25:56it is again to pray you open your whole self to sky, to earth,
- 26:03to sun, to moon, to one whole voice that is you,
- 26:08and know there is more that you can't see, can't hear, can't know
- 26:15except in moments steadily growing, and in languages that aren't always sound, but
- 26:22other circles of motion, Like eagle that Sunday morning over salt river, circled
- 26:30in blue sky and wind swept our hearts clean with sacred wings, we see
- 26:38you, see ourselves, and know that we must take the utmost care and
- 26:47kindness in all things. Breathe in knowing we are made of all this,
- 26:59and breathe knowing we are truly blessed because we were born and die soon within
- 27:10a true circle of motion, like Ego rounding out the morning inside us,
- 27:21we pray that it will be done in beauty, in beauty. Mm mm
- 27:40hmm, Ego poem. This poem evokes memory, such deep memory and my
- 27:57own soul, and I know I can hear the Holy Spirit whispering, be
- 28:06still, Be still, Take a minute, take a moment to savor the
- 28:12beauty of the day. Maybe it's the way the sun beams down on the
- 28:17bright blue sea, or maybe it's a passing, a passing moment that we
- 28:26pause so we can relish that exquisite glow of the evening sun, just before
- 28:34it melts away into a bank of clouds or steams away into the silent sea.
- 28:47I love this poem for so many reasons, and again, I think
- 28:51the most significant reason is because it allows me. It helps me, It
- 28:56encourages me, invites me to slow, to just be still, to press
- 29:03pause, just for a moment, for a little while, to bathe in
- 29:07beauty, and to forget, to let go of the busy, busy,
- 29:11busyness of my life. The poem also invites me to remember to live in
- 29:21the music and poetry and sanctity of the world. How we live is how
- 29:30we do everything else right. How we parent, how we teach, how
- 29:34we serve, how we lead in any aspect of our lives. To learn
- 29:44more about Joiharjoe and her life of writing and music and service, be sure
- 29:51to visit the Poetry Foundation website, and the website is www dot Poetry Foundation
- 30:00dot org. Okay Poetry Foundation dot org. There you can read more about
- 30:07Miss Joy's life, you can read her poems, and even hear her read
- 30:11some of her own poems. You can also find information and inspiration on Miss
- 30:18Joy's website, and that's www. Dot Joyharjo dot org. Okay Joyharjo dot
- 30:26org. And you spell Harjo h a r jo Joiharjo dot org. Can
- 30:34I just tell you something, Miss Joy? We love you, and we
- 30:40celebrate you. We lift you up during National Poetry Month, during Women's History
- 30:45Month, during Indigenous People's Month, and not only during those times, but
- 30:49we celebrate you every single day. We celebrate you for looking into the wind,
- 31:00for looking into the wind, for standing in the wind, for allowing
- 31:04the wind to whirl through you. We celebrate you for looking into the face
- 31:10of memory, for being a vessel for the voices of your ancestors and those
- 31:17who are coming in our direction. We celebrate you for being a music maker
- 31:23and a poetry baker, for your exquisite artistry and your amazing gifts of being
- 31:30awake to life and turning that life, the good, the gracious, the
- 31:36ugly, and the tragic into astonishing works of remembrance, of reverence, of
- 31:47restoration, of redemption. We salute you and celebrate you for your astounding as
- 32:01we express our deep, deep gratitude, and we thank you for showing us
- 32:07the inseparable power of music and poetry and what the power of one person,
- 32:17of one person who lives their life to make a difference is all about.
- 32:22Right now, That's exactly what we talked about earlier, and I promise to
- 32:27say more about how you can make your life count, So here we go.
- 32:34You can make your life count in so many ways by being there for
- 32:37someone who simply needs the precious, wonderful fragrance of your presence. Now what
- 32:45do I mean by that? Well, maybe that person just needs you to
- 32:52listen to them talk about their day, about how their dad is doing,
- 32:55or maybe they need to talk about their relationship with a friend or a daughter
- 33:00or son, and they don't want to just talk to anybody. What they
- 33:07really need is you. Why because you listen with a smile in your heart,
- 33:14You listen without having to jump in and give advice. You listen because
- 33:19you really care, So you can make your life count in that kind of
- 33:27way. It really is that simple. And remember, how we live is
- 33:37how we serve how we live is how we teach and parent, It's how
- 33:44we live and lead in any aspect of our lives. So let's remember to
- 33:52take good care of ourselves every single day. Three sixty five twenty seven.
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- 36:20you for being here, for allowing me to share a bit about my journey
- 36:24with what legacy living is all about, not just living and learning, but
- 36:30living and learning and serving so that you make a difference in your own life
- 36:35and in the lives of others. It's about being on purpose every single day.
- 36:42Three sixty five, twenty four seven. Legacy living is one of the
- 36:47many powerful ways to make your life count. I'm your host, doctor Gloria
- 36:55Gloria Burgess, and this is legacy living. Make your life count. Please
- 37:01join me again next time, and remember, don't just count the days in
- 37:08your life. Make the days in your life count. That's what legacy living
- 37:15is all about. Have a fantastic day, and remember make the days in
- 37:22your life count. God bless that's our show today. I'm your host,
- 37:40doctor Gloria Gloria Burgess. I hope you'll join me again next time. Until
- 37:47then, don't just count the days in your life. Make the days in
- 37:52your life count. That's what legacy living is all about. Here's to you.
- 38:00You have a fantastic day and be sure to make it a yes kind
- 38:04of day. Remember to celebrate the music of your life. Make the days
- 38:14in your life count.