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Prosecutor: Dentist charged in toddler's death hired hit man to kill boy's mom · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Sirius x M Triumph Channel one thirty two. Dr Burt
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Speaker 1: Franklin is in jail without bond for first degree murder
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Speaker 1: and the death of nineteen month old Lincoln Lewis. During
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Speaker 1: a police interview with Lincoln's mother, she told investigators that
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Speaker 1: she and Franklin and the baby were all at her
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Speaker 1: Northwest Oklahoma City home the night of July six. She
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Speaker 1: told investigator she heard a loud noise coming from downstairs
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Speaker 1: while she was upstairs. Police report states his mother woke
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Speaker 1: up and noticed him sleeping with his eyes open and
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Speaker 1: making a loud snoring sound, but she couldn't wake him up.
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Speaker 1: The surveillance video showsburg Franklin holding Lincoln and later showed
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Speaker 1: him making a violent kicking motion towards the area where
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Speaker 1: he had laid the baby down. The Oklahoma County District
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Speaker 1: Attorney's office says thirty five old Burt Franklin will be
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Speaker 1: tried for first degree murder in this case. He's handsome,
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Speaker 1: he's educated, he's got a post grad degree, he is
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Speaker 1: a successful dentist, and he acts like a loving father
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Speaker 1: to her nineteen month old little boy. What could go wrong?
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace, this is crime stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. Her nineteen month old son ends up
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Speaker 1: dead dead. But why is the loving dentist to blame? Well,
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Speaker 1: mommy says yes. Not only that she finds out he's
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Speaker 1: married with a family of his own, and once police
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Speaker 1: began closing in, he actually tries to plot to have
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Speaker 1: her murdered so she could never testify against him. What
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm never gonna look at my dentist the
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Speaker 1: same way again. It was bad enough when he had
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Speaker 1: his hand in my Matthew went, remember I was on
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Speaker 1: one of your juries. Okay, that was a shot right there.
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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to take the whole thing in. Let's
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Speaker 1: just start at the beginning. Joining me right now, Crime
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Speaker 1: Stories contributing investigative reporter Bobby Maxwell, joining us. How could
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Speaker 1: it go this far? How did she have no idea?
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Speaker 1: A he's married with his own family. Be the baby
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Speaker 1: just nineteen months old? Is fine one minute? Then he
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Speaker 1: seems to be lethargic a couple of hours later. But
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Speaker 1: let's just start at the beginning, Bobby, What happened? Rock
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Speaker 1: Fan Lincoln's mom actually started dating Bert the boyfriend back
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Speaker 1: in June. Often He actually said he was separated from
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Speaker 1: his wife at the time. She said they had a
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Speaker 1: great relationship. It became serious pretty quick. He liked her
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Speaker 1: child and um that she was actually talking about getting
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Speaker 1: a divorce from his wife he was separated from. It
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Speaker 1: was a full on, uh romance. He pulled out all
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Speaker 1: the stops to engage her. In a very serious, is
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Speaker 1: very quickly loving relationship. Take a listen to what Roxy
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Speaker 1: and Louis Randall has to say about her dream guy,
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Speaker 1: the dentist Burt Franklin listened. He was very charming and
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Speaker 1: kind and just really nice. Was there a point that
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Speaker 1: you said, he's flirting with me? Just engaging in a
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Speaker 1: lot of conversation. He was just funny, he was m witty.
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Speaker 1: We just kind of clicked. Did you know what his
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Speaker 1: marital status was? I did, um partially? What did you
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Speaker 1: understand that they were still married? They had been living
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Speaker 1: in your separate lives? And what he said, were you
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Speaker 1: a secret? I don't think I was fully. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Did his wife know about you? Yes? Did she object?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. She's after all of this, she said
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Speaker 1: that they've never even talked about a divorce. But that's
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Speaker 1: not ever even been mentioned, so she now tells a
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Speaker 1: different story. So he said they were they were living
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Speaker 1: the only they had just not finished the divorce process,
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Speaker 1: So you didn't see yourself as the other woman here?
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Speaker 1: How long before it became serious? Became serious pretty quick,
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Speaker 1: A couple of months it was serious. But he met
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Speaker 1: Lincoln before he met the older kids. Lincoln was with
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Speaker 1: me all the time. He didn't meet the older children
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Speaker 1: for him many weeks or months we started dating in
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Speaker 1: and it was November five or six months. How did
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Speaker 1: they like him? They thought he was great. He you know,
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Speaker 1: played with them and they thought that he was wonderful.
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Speaker 1: You know. There's a couple of times that he got
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Speaker 1: up with Lincoln and like I saw him, you know,
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Speaker 1: like pacing rocking Lincoln back to sleep, straight out to
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCullum joining me right now, along with Joseph Scott,
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Speaker 1: Morgan Care and Start and Bobby Maxwell. Cheryl McCullum, director
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Speaker 1: of the Cold Case Institute, an expert crime scene investigator. Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: have you looked at this video? She had video surveillance
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Speaker 1: in her upscale home and you can see him, the dentist,
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Speaker 1: Franklin in the home. It's like a regular evening. The
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Speaker 1: baby is playing over in the corner. It's very serene,
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Speaker 1: everything's fine. What went wrong, Cheryl McCollum, What can you
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Speaker 1: divine from what you can see? Nancy Ansa says that
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are not gonna like but it's
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Speaker 1: the truth. Boyfriends are not bothers. These women have got
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Speaker 1: to stop acting like they have this instant family and
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Speaker 1: he's perfect and he's gonna love your child. No, he's not.
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Speaker 1: You have got to never leave your infant child or
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Speaker 1: your teenage daughter with this boyfriend that you have just
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Speaker 1: met that you don't know what day thing about. Except
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Speaker 1: he's a doctor with some money who's married. Well, okay,
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Speaker 1: hold on, this is not a doctor. This is a dentist. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's start with that. A dentist is giving somebody botox. Okay. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a professional. I'm not an m D or
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Speaker 1: a d d S. I'm a j D. But right there,
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Speaker 1: I would never even think to go to my dentist
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Speaker 1: to get botox. But that's a whole another can of worms.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCullum pointing out the obvious. And Cheryl, I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you've done the same, but I've told my David,
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Speaker 1: my husband, David, you know, once I murder you, excuse me,
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Speaker 1: once you pass away, I'm not marrying again. Hey, I
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Speaker 1: don't want to raise another man. But number two, I
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Speaker 1: would not trust anybody around the twins. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, Cheryl, for the longest time, I mean years,
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Speaker 1: when I had to go to work. I had two babysitters,
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Speaker 1: one babysitter to watch, the other babysitter watch the babies.
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Speaker 1: I would not leave them alone with one person. Thank
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Speaker 1: god she had the video tape because again, that is
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Speaker 1: going to be the most powerful thing when they go
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Speaker 1: to court. And if I was that prosecutor, I would
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Speaker 1: show it over and over and over that after he
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Speaker 1: damaged this child fatally, he just casually walked he gets
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Speaker 1: the pizza. Pizza, guys, you can see the video for yourself,
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Speaker 1: see what it shows you. It is now posted on
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com and you can watch for yourself
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Speaker 1: exactly what the police saw, exactly what you can see
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Speaker 1: in the home with that surveillance video. I want to
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Speaker 1: ask you about him going and getting the pizza, Cheryl McCollum.
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Speaker 1: It shows how callous and self aublored he is. Nancy
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Speaker 1: that again the mom's gonna come in and attempt to
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Speaker 1: give the baby the past fire. He's like, no, no,
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Speaker 1: he's asleep. He's conning her the whole time. He already
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Speaker 1: knows this child has been so injured. He's lifeless, he's limp,
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Speaker 1: he's non responsive, so to cover and self even further
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Speaker 1: in attempt to, you know, get the job, go to bed.
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Speaker 1: He's just there carrying him into the kitchen and you can, Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now as we're talking. He's
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Speaker 1: got the baby walking around and the baby is you know,
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Speaker 1: it's a time, it's an infant. And I would say
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Speaker 1: he goes from his shoulder to maybe almost two was
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Speaker 1: not quite to his wrist, and he's carrying the baby
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Speaker 1: with one arm, and the baby's legs are just hanging down.
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Speaker 1: The baby isn't wiggling around. The baby isn't you know,
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Speaker 1: shaking its arms. He's not looking around. He's just kind
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Speaker 1: of hanging there. And he's already being dead at that point.
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Speaker 1: But what's more important getting him help too. Just just
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Speaker 1: got Morgan, crime scene investigator, death investigator, professor of forensics
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Speaker 1: at Jacksonville State University. Just got you and I together,
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Speaker 1: and I believe Cheryl, you were with us as well
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Speaker 1: as Karen Stark all sat and watched this video at
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Speaker 1: the same time. I want to go through the video. Luckily,
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Speaker 1: this mom had her home tricked out with surveillance cameras
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Speaker 1: for when a babysitter was there. What do you see
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Speaker 1: in the video because there's a column in the home.
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Speaker 1: There's an obstruction at one point, and you can't see
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Speaker 1: exactly what he does to the baby. But I see
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Speaker 1: him walking around holding the baby, and the baby is
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Speaker 1: just limp in his arms. The thought he was here
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Speaker 1: Nancy has then that obstructive view where we can't see
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Speaker 1: the baby, the baby being uh downward. Uh. It's at
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Speaker 1: that point in tom that it's believed that this man
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Speaker 1: uh inflicted uh inflicted head trauma to this child. And
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Speaker 1: the key here that the medical examiners pointed out is
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Speaker 1: that Nancy, there's not just one skull fractures this child.
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Speaker 1: There are two. There are two skull fractures to this child.
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Speaker 1: So that means that this child sustained grievous impact so
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Speaker 1: strong that it would have uh fractured uh an eighteen
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Speaker 1: months old skull. And let me tell you why that's significant.
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Speaker 1: It goes to the amount of force as as everybody knows.
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Speaker 1: You know, little babies there's their their bones are not
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Speaker 1: what I referred to as ossified. They're they're not there.
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Speaker 1: They haven't got the same texture that an adult skull does.
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Speaker 1: They're soft. And one of the reasons we're created that
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Speaker 1: way is the idea that the skull is malleable, soft,
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Speaker 1: it's flexible, it can sustain a bit of trauma, whereas
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Speaker 1: an adult might not be able to um. And when
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Speaker 1: this occurs, UH, the uh the amount of force that
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Speaker 1: it would take UH is is significant. Even the emergency
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Speaker 1: room physician that initially examined this little angel said that
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Speaker 1: he believed that this that this UH injury that this
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Speaker 1: child sustained did not occur as a result from a
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Speaker 1: fall from a height. That means that we're talking about
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Speaker 1: impact injuries. This, this requires a tremendous amount of anger
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Speaker 1: and treating treating this little baby as if it were
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Speaker 1: you know, less than less than a dog, even uh
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Speaker 1: that it's just some piece of trash, and I'd have
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Speaker 1: to I'd have to go in with what what Cheryl
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Speaker 1: had mentioned. Again, this is another case of a boyfriend
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Speaker 1: in the house that is subjecting this horrible, horrible trauma
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Speaker 1: to this child who he cares nothing about. I don't
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Speaker 1: care what anybody says. Well, you're right about the injury.
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Speaker 1: The mom roxand Louis Randall says the doctors have told
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Speaker 1: her that her baby, Lincoln's skull was fractured. All the
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Speaker 1: way from his eyebrow to his spine. That it was
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Speaker 1: a type of injury he saw when, for instance, a
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Speaker 1: baby is not strapped into a car seat and they
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Speaker 1: are in a head on collision going about sixty miles
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Speaker 1: an hour and then they are ejected. Now that thrown
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Speaker 1: out of the car. That is a type of severity
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Speaker 1: injury injury this child, this baby sustained. Now it's a
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Speaker 1: nineteen month old taught boy. They're in Oklahoma, and it
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Speaker 1: took practically no time at all from medical examiner to
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Speaker 1: determine it would say non accidental blunt forced trauma to
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Speaker 1: the head. Baby Lincoln was immediately airlifted to a facility
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Speaker 1: in Tulsa after the mom raised him to a local
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Speaker 1: emergency room. Following the night, authorities claim her boyfriend's her boyfriend, Dr.
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Speaker 1: Burt Franklin, killed the child. Now, she says, my mind
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Speaker 1: knew logically there was only one explanation, but she couldn't
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Speaker 1: take it in. Go to our website crime online dot
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Speaker 1: com and you can see the video, the home video yourself.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear what the mother said happened
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Speaker 1: what Lincoln's mom, who was now tangled up with this,
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Speaker 1: Mary Dentist, has to say about the night her taught
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Speaker 1: Lincoln was killed and what do you now believe happened.
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Speaker 1: Bert carried him down the steps and link and had
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Speaker 1: his pacifier in his mouth, and he walked back into
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Speaker 1: the living room area, handed Lincoln his bottle on the ground,
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Speaker 1: stepped over him and walked just a couple of steps,
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Speaker 1: and then he turned around and you can see him
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Speaker 1: on camera and he makes a violent kicking motion that
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Speaker 1: you can't see the bottom part of his body, but
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Speaker 1: you can see the top. And he walks back into
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Speaker 1: the living room and got a piece of pizza and
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Speaker 1: then he walks back in the living room, picks up
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Speaker 1: LinkedIn and makes it like a violent shopping motion to
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Speaker 1: the floor. Ramped sam at first to the floor and
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Speaker 1: to heat. At that point I heard a sound, which
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Speaker 1: was the second sound. M I thought the dog had
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Speaker 1: done something. It was a large puppy, so I yelled
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Speaker 1: down and he didn't respond, and in my mind I
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Speaker 1: thought that he was intentionally ignoring it, so like he
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Speaker 1: didn't have to clean up whenever the dog had messed up.
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Speaker 1: Went to the top of the stairs and I said,
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Speaker 1: you know, babe, what was that? And he yelled at me.
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Speaker 1: So it was Dax, which was the dogs. I go
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Speaker 1: down there, Thinkin's pass fires on the floor at the
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Speaker 1: base of the stairs. It was on the ground, so
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Speaker 1: I picked it up, took over the sink and washed
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Speaker 1: it off. And you piece all these events together after
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Speaker 1: the fact, based on the tapes that the prosecutors have
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Speaker 1: recovered from the servers. Correct and some of it you see,
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Speaker 1: some of it you infer. It's the flow events you
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Speaker 1: see from what the prosecutors recovered. At that point, Lincoln
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Speaker 1: was laying on the couch looking up at the TV.
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Speaker 1: So I went to walk around to give him his pacifier,
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Speaker 1: and Bert was on the other couch. He was like, no,
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Speaker 1: he's asleep, and I kind of looked around and I
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Speaker 1: told him, I, you know, it was like, he's not asleep,
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Speaker 1: like his eyes are open. And he was like, well,
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Speaker 1: go on, if he sees you, he's not going to
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Speaker 1: go to sleep. And he's almost asleep, so don't let
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Speaker 1: him see you. So I put his pacifier on the
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Speaker 1: arm and the couch back upstairs. I guess that's whenever
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Speaker 1: he picked up Lincoln and carried his body around. I
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Speaker 1: think he probably thought that it was back downstairs and
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Speaker 1: if he was pulling asleep on the couch and try
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Speaker 1: to cuttle up to him or pick him or hold him.
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Speaker 1: So he carries him into the kitchen, gets another piece
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Speaker 1: of pizza, and then eventually it takes him into my
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Speaker 1: room and lays him in my bed. He came upstairs
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Speaker 1: and I asked where Lincoln was, and he said that
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Speaker 1: he fell asleep on the couch and put him in
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Speaker 1: my bed. And I thought, awesome, Now that showed him
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Speaker 1: carrying Lincoln. And you believe at that point that Lincoln
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Speaker 1: had already been rudely and violently kicked in the head
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Speaker 1: and was, for all intensive purposes brain dead at that point. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was three minutes from the time that he carried
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Speaker 1: down downstairs sitting up a normal toddler to that moment
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Speaker 1: where he carries him into the kitchen unconscious. Lincoln was
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Speaker 1: a normal toddler. There's no getting him to sleep in
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Speaker 1: three minutes flat. His legs are curved in and they
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Speaker 1: are dingly. You can deilities. It looks at one point
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Speaker 1: both of us like the stiffer straight out and they collapsed.
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Speaker 1: They think he was probably having a siege. So he
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Speaker 1: then puts Lincoln to bed in your bed, and you
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Speaker 1: continue working on a project. Um, you then check on Lincoln. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I had walked through the room at one point I
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Speaker 1: acknowledged that he was letting in a certain position. Later
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Speaker 1: on I gone into philis forehead to see if he
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Speaker 1: felt warm love, he was sleepy. Was it typical for
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Speaker 1: him to sleep in your bed? So we CoA slept
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Speaker 1: quite a bit in my bedroom when I was working upstairs,
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Speaker 1: working on this continent upstairs, and my bedroom is the
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Speaker 1: only bedroom downstairs, so it just kind of made sense.
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Speaker 1: You know, in retrospect, do you think he may have
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Speaker 1: put him down there so you would be less likely
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Speaker 1: to engage him interact William check on him. I think
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Speaker 1: he was trying to put as much distance between Lincoln
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Speaker 1: and I as Bostle. So Bobby Maxwell joining us Crime
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Speaker 1: Stores investigative reporter Bobby. You can see on the video
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Speaker 1: he goes the dentist the love or the merry lover,
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Speaker 1: goes over, gives the baby who is lying on the
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Speaker 1: floor on a bank. He gives him the bottle, and
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Speaker 1: see the mom isn't standing where she can see this.
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Speaker 1: And then I don't know why, you can see his
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Speaker 1: leg kind of come back, but you can't see the
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Speaker 1: actual kid exactly. The baby is definitely out of the
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Speaker 1: picture there, but the bird is actually making some kind
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Speaker 1: of move towards the child. You know, um, when we
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Speaker 1: were talking about the romancing and the dating. Karen Stark,
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Speaker 1: psychologist joining us out of Manhattan. Karen, I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: not blaming the mom. She did not do anything wrong.
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Speaker 1: When she realized something was wrong with Lincoln, she raced
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Speaker 1: into the hospital. I don't know that. I guess it
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Speaker 1: would be common practice to go on and and look
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Speaker 1: at the guy's Facebook. I mean, he's pictured with his
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Speaker 1: wife in a Christmas photo with the whole family. Well,
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Speaker 1: but this is a guy that said that he was
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Speaker 1: separated from his wife. So maybe, first of all, not
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Speaker 1: everybody goes on Facebook. But more striking to me, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: is that I'm constantly describing what a killer is like,
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Speaker 1: what a sociopath is like, and how they're indifferent to
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Speaker 1: what's happening. They don't have any conscience, any feelings. And
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Speaker 1: here is on video a tape that shows this man
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Speaker 1: reaching for a piece of pizza after having allegedly destroyed
22:24
Speaker 1: this baby, and totally indifferent to the fact that anything
22:29
Speaker 1: has occurred, Like he could be watching a football game,
22:33
Speaker 1: and it's indicative of the fact that he absolutely does
22:40
Speaker 1: not care, could care. Not only does it care less,
22:43
Speaker 1: but wanted this happen, and it's comfortable enough to have
22:48
Speaker 1: a little snack and keep going, something none of us
22:52
Speaker 1: would be able to do. She's right, Cheryl McCullum direct
22:57
Speaker 1: to the Cold Case Institute. I recall cases or after
23:00
Speaker 1: a murder, the part would stay in the home and
23:03
Speaker 1: like take a shower, they would eat, they would get
23:06
Speaker 1: into the fridge. I have seen cases like that, and
23:10
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just a trial lawyer. I didn't know
23:13
Speaker 1: mentally or emotionally, Cheryl, what that meant, but I knew
23:16
Speaker 1: something was very wrong with that that you commit a
23:18
Speaker 1: heinous crime and then you stick around to raid the fridge.
23:22
Speaker 1: Cheryl Nancy, You're absolutely right. This is not his only victims.
23:27
Speaker 1: I have a daughter, Caroline, she's now at dating age,
23:30
Speaker 1: and I've already told her if there as a kid
23:33
Speaker 1: in that high school that if I can say that word,
23:37
Speaker 1: he's gonna be that his freshman year of college, and
23:39
Speaker 1: he's gonna be that when he's thirty six, and he's
23:41
Speaker 1: gonna be an a seventy two. So here's the deal.
23:44
Speaker 1: You go back in this guy's history's parted in middle
23:46
Speaker 1: school and high school. He's mistreated people. He has mistreated
23:50
Speaker 1: a ton of people that, for whatever reason, did not
23:53
Speaker 1: come forward. But he's got a trail behind him. You
23:56
Speaker 1: know what, that's true. At that age, you're pretty much
24:00
Speaker 1: so many of your characteristics and your behaviors are set
24:03
Speaker 1: in stone. Another thing that's really bothering me, Joseph Scott
24:07
Speaker 1: Morgan is the way he she starts to go over
24:10
Speaker 1: to the baby, and obviously he knows something bad has
24:13
Speaker 1: happened to the child. He goes, I no, no, I'll
24:14
Speaker 1: do it, and he picks the baby up. He's just
24:16
Speaker 1: walking around with the baby limp. I mean, who would
24:20
Speaker 1: walk around with the baby and the baby is just
24:24
Speaker 1: hanging there and he grabs a piece of pizza and
24:27
Speaker 1: walks around like nothing's wrong. The baby is dying at
24:30
Speaker 1: that moment. It's going brain dead. Can you explain that medically,
24:34
Speaker 1: Joe Scott? Yeah, I have a real hard time with this, Nancy,
24:36
Speaker 1: because as you mentioned earlier, he's not a physician, he's
24:39
Speaker 1: a dentist, but he does know enough about medicine to
24:43
Speaker 1: understand when a fellow human being in this case, this
24:48
Speaker 1: this little angel is in crisis and he knew enough
24:52
Speaker 1: to at least pick up the baby. What what's going
24:55
Speaker 1: on is that the child, uh is still alive, but
25:01
Speaker 1: the child it's brain activity is at a point where
25:05
Speaker 1: it's it's almost nil at this point, and he would know.
25:09
Speaker 1: He would know that a mama going over to pick
25:11
Speaker 1: up her her precious little baby is going to sense
25:15
Speaker 1: something is wrong. He knew enough, So I think the
25:17
Speaker 1: standard is is even more exacting for this guy as
25:22
Speaker 1: opposed to somebody else. You know, if you get this
25:24
Speaker 1: guy on the stand and say, listen, you had some
25:27
Speaker 1: medical training. You understand here, what what what's going on
25:31
Speaker 1: with this child? But yet you were so callous that
25:34
Speaker 1: you would pick this child up. You know that this
25:36
Speaker 1: child had a head injury, Well just got be in
25:40
Speaker 1: pain at that point, you know, Nancy, I don't, I
25:43
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know what the status would be. However, if
25:48
Speaker 1: he had struck this child, you talked about how this
25:51
Speaker 1: fracture ran from essentially uh rear word forward is sort
25:55
Speaker 1: of splitting the head in half. Um, if the brain stem,
25:59
Speaker 1: which is the face of our brain, which is the
26:01
Speaker 1: primal brain that controls essentially everything, if that was affected,
26:05
Speaker 1: I would I would hope, hopefully, hopefully, I would say
26:08
Speaker 1: that child would not be in pain. But there is
26:10
Speaker 1: one report where where the mother eventually noticed that that
26:14
Speaker 1: the child was snoring very loudly with the eyes open
26:18
Speaker 1: and and that sort of thing, and that is that
26:20
Speaker 1: is indicative of a severe, severe head trauma. It just
26:23
Speaker 1: hurts me to hear it. I want you to hear
26:26
Speaker 1: what Lincoln's mom remembers about her thoughts sunny disposition. She
26:32
Speaker 1: says he was quote the happiest he had ever been.
26:36
Speaker 1: He had a lot of health problems due to a
26:39
Speaker 1: premature birth, but he had overcome so many of them,
26:42
Speaker 1: and she says he was always laughing and smiling. And
26:46
Speaker 1: now in my mind is the image of him with
26:48
Speaker 1: his eyes wide open, snoring heavily, which tiny tots typically
26:54
Speaker 1: don't do, because he's actually having trouble breathing. That is
26:58
Speaker 1: why he was snoring. That he was dying. He's going
27:02
Speaker 1: brain dad at this time. Listen to what mommy says.
27:05
Speaker 1: He was the happiest and laughing. We've got a little
27:08
Speaker 1: video of him, but I mean, he was just a happy,
27:13
Speaker 1: happy baby, right he was when he would be um laughing,
27:19
Speaker 1: but it would make him cough and choke because he
27:22
Speaker 1: was sick, but he would still laugh. You know. It
27:25
Speaker 1: seems so unjust for him to overcome such tremendous odds
27:31
Speaker 1: to then be taken after winning this battle he had
27:35
Speaker 1: Finally he was finally a normal toddler. He was finally healthy,
27:41
Speaker 1: running around and just being a normal baby. That was
27:44
Speaker 1: Lincoln's mom talking with Dr Pheel our friend, Um, I
27:49
Speaker 1: want to go over a new claim. Bobby Maxwell, Crime
27:52
Speaker 1: Stories investigative reporter contributor Bobby Now, uh, there are claims
27:58
Speaker 1: that he actually tried to have Lincoln's mom murdered so
28:03
Speaker 1: she couldn't testify as to what happened. What do we know, Bobby, Well,
28:06
Speaker 1: this actually went back as far as August Nancy Um.
28:09
Speaker 1: He's been of course jailed on the alleged dept But
28:13
Speaker 1: he offered an inmate three hundred dollars to kill the
28:17
Speaker 1: mom and actually gave him detailed um instructions on where
28:23
Speaker 1: she lived and how to get there. Um. And she
28:25
Speaker 1: was due to testify, so he knew that he had
28:28
Speaker 1: to get her out of the picture. But yeah, he
28:30
Speaker 1: that That's the latest charges on Burt Franklin is that
28:33
Speaker 1: he was trying to pay another inmate. Actually he approached
28:36
Speaker 1: his wife to transfer the money to the inmates account
28:39
Speaker 1: saying it was for spiritual reason. Spiritual reason, Cheryl McCollum. WHOA.
28:44
Speaker 1: So he gets his wife, the quite long suffering wife
28:49
Speaker 1: with all the children picture in front of a Christmas
28:52
Speaker 1: tree with him in the picture, and he is now
28:56
Speaker 1: it's out that he's been having this long time affair
28:59
Speaker 1: with this young lady and is facing charges. He brutally
29:06
Speaker 1: kicks her son dead. Taught he can't even sit up.
29:09
Speaker 1: He's nineteen months old, and she's the wife is visiting
29:14
Speaker 1: him behind bars and funneling money to an inmate, So
29:18
Speaker 1: the dentist can convince the inmate to go kill the
29:22
Speaker 1: girlfriend for three are rich spiritual Nancy because he's inhale.
29:28
Speaker 1: And let me be very clear, there is honor of
29:31
Speaker 1: lo thieves in this regard. Inmates hate maybe killer. So
29:37
Speaker 1: the dentist, he seeks to get drilled often sugar, he's
29:42
Speaker 1: in the best fight for justice. Well let me tell you.
29:45
Speaker 1: Let me tell you another thing that's gonna come against him.
29:48
Speaker 1: Just got Morgan, and that is the After this happens,
29:53
Speaker 1: the inmate, of course rats him out, and the authorities
29:59
Speaker 1: give the eight a cell phone they can record, and
30:04
Speaker 1: they actually get him on tape talking about killing his
30:09
Speaker 1: former lover. So it's not you always have a problem
30:14
Speaker 1: at trial. Hold onto, Scott Cheryl McCullum. You always have
30:17
Speaker 1: a problem at trial when you want to introduce inmate testimony. So,
30:21
Speaker 1: as I always told my juries right up front, I'd
30:25
Speaker 1: say you're gonna hear from so and so. He's an inmate,
30:30
Speaker 1: he's done time. So and they look all shots, I'm like,
30:32
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what do you think? Sometimes you gotta
30:36
Speaker 1: go to hell to get the witnesses to put the
30:38
Speaker 1: devil in jail. Bam. So who do you think this
30:41
Speaker 1: guy is hanging out with nuns and priests and virgins. No,
30:44
Speaker 1: he's hanging out with people like this witness. Why you
30:47
Speaker 1: don't have to like him, just listen to him, Cheryl,
30:50
Speaker 1: you would always tell us that, Nancy, and you were
30:52
Speaker 1: the one that said, and I quoted, swan don't swim
30:54
Speaker 1: in a sewer. You gotta get down and dirty. You
30:57
Speaker 1: gotta go with the off. I'm sure I said cesspool. Okay,
31:01
Speaker 1: I'm sure I said such pool. Swans don't swim in
31:04
Speaker 1: a cess pool. Okay. Yeah, it's all coming back to
31:07
Speaker 1: me now, Cheryl. So to Joe Scott Morgan, I want
31:11
Speaker 1: to talk to you about the force necessary to inflict
31:14
Speaker 1: this wound on this baby boy. That is a skull
31:18
Speaker 1: fracture from the head to the spine. Yeah, you'd mentioned earlier, Nancy,
31:24
Speaker 1: uh that it's been reported that this is the equivalent
31:27
Speaker 1: of a of a head on car collision with his
31:30
Speaker 1: child not being strapped in a in a car seat.
31:35
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would necessarily go with that
31:37
Speaker 1: amount of force, but it is sufficient in order to
31:40
Speaker 1: split this skull that it would require the power of
31:44
Speaker 1: a grown man. A grown man, uh striking a child
31:50
Speaker 1: with his foot. This is not necessarily something you could
31:52
Speaker 1: do with your hands. So this this paints a really
31:55
Speaker 1: grim picture where you've got this helpless, little, prematurely and
32:00
Speaker 1: child at the feet of grown man who was supposed
32:02
Speaker 1: to be a caretaker. If you will um and splits
32:07
Speaker 1: the skull of this child. The only methodology I could
32:10
Speaker 1: think of would probably be either a leg or something
32:14
Speaker 1: akin to like a baseball bat. But in this case,
32:17
Speaker 1: given what we're seeing with the child being obscured behind
32:20
Speaker 1: this post, my money's on the foot. I think that
32:23
Speaker 1: he essentially kicked his child as hard as you might
32:26
Speaker 1: see maybe a pro football player kick a ball through
32:28
Speaker 1: a goal. Oh my stars, Now I want you to
32:32
Speaker 1: analyze this guy's with me. Cheryl McCollum, Director of the
32:35
Speaker 1: Coal Case Institute, Joseph Scott Morgan, death investigator and professor
32:39
Speaker 1: of forensics at Jacksonville State University, Karen Stark, renowned psychologist
32:44
Speaker 1: out of New York, and Crime Stories investigative reporter Bobby Maxwell.
32:49
Speaker 1: Take a listen to the mom who, in her own words,
32:53
Speaker 1: describes when she realized much much later something was horribly
32:58
Speaker 1: wrong with Lincoln. She said, called my one one. She
33:01
Speaker 1: looked over at her married lover and he quote froze listen.
33:07
Speaker 1: I woke up at two to us and I thought
33:10
Speaker 1: Lincoln was coughing. I woke up and I just remember
33:14
Speaker 1: instantly thinking I knew it, he said, you know. So
33:18
Speaker 1: I got up and then went straight to the kitchen
33:20
Speaker 1: and caught him some medicine, caught his bottle, and when
33:25
Speaker 1: he got back to the bedroom, or asked me if
33:27
Speaker 1: Lincoln always slept to the eyes open, and he did sometimes,
33:32
Speaker 1: is really weird, but so I just said yes. As
33:37
Speaker 1: I walked in, I could I noticed that what I
33:40
Speaker 1: thought was a cough was a gurgling. So I put
33:46
Speaker 1: this stuff down and I grabbed him. When I grabbed him,
33:50
Speaker 1: his body was lift So I yelled at him to
34:00
Speaker 1: call on what want and he stood up from the
34:02
Speaker 1: other side of the bat and just stare. At that moment,
34:06
Speaker 1: I thought that it was some people freeze up an
34:09
Speaker 1: emergency situation like a panic, So yell again, I staid,
34:17
Speaker 1: call you call for an ambulance. So too, Karen Stark
34:21
Speaker 1: psychologists when people freeze when something happens, what is that
34:27
Speaker 1: and what do you think? Well, in this case, a
34:30
Speaker 1: lot of times when people freeze, it's because they're in shock,
34:34
Speaker 1: but this man is not in shock. He's been caught
34:37
Speaker 1: and that's the reason that he's freezing. I also want
34:40
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34:45
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34:49
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34:52
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34:58
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35:01
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35:04
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35:10
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35:13
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Speaker 1: This dentist appare only Cheryl McCollum had a whole family
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Speaker 1: with multiple children and a wife that he was keeping
40:06
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40:11
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40:16
Speaker 1: and he is now charged with kicking the baby with
40:20
Speaker 1: such force the baby goes brain dead. Cheryl, how do
40:25
Speaker 1: you analyze keeping a double life and how does that
40:30
Speaker 1: play into this scenario because now obviously he didn't care
40:33
Speaker 1: about the woman because he's allegedly tried to hire a
40:37
Speaker 1: hit man to kill her, the girlfriend, so she can't
40:40
Speaker 1: testify against him at trial about the baby's death may being.
40:44
Speaker 1: He cared about nobody but himself. He doesn't care about
40:47
Speaker 1: the wife in the first set of children, he doesn't
40:50
Speaker 1: care about the girlfriend and her child. He cares about
40:53
Speaker 1: no one. He is, of course charming and funny and weety,
40:57
Speaker 1: as she claims, because that's his hook. That's how he
41:01
Speaker 1: gets you. That's just his trap. If you will the wife.
41:05
Speaker 1: Not only was he cheating on her, I can guarantee
41:08
Speaker 1: you he's been violent towards his own children and her.
41:12
Speaker 1: So what does he do She doesn't leave him. He
41:14
Speaker 1: gets her to come to the prison of the jail
41:17
Speaker 1: to funnel money so that he can set up the
41:20
Speaker 1: hit man. Are you kidding me? Ladies, listen to me.
41:24
Speaker 1: This man don't want you. You're being played. If it's
41:30
Speaker 1: too good to be true, it is. So he's probably
41:34
Speaker 1: given a free botox. He's probably telling her how beautiful
41:36
Speaker 1: she is. She should have known better, Nancy. I'm not
41:39
Speaker 1: blaming her. I'm just saying she should have known better.
41:43
Speaker 1: She knew he was married, she knew they were playing house.
41:46
Speaker 1: And it wasn't this instant family. It was a recipe
41:49
Speaker 1: for disaster. Well, I tell you when when you add
41:52
Speaker 1: in the child, a baby into the mix, a baby
41:55
Speaker 1: that cannot speak for itself. That's a whole another ken
41:59
Speaker 1: of war arms. A guy, prosecutors say, fatally abuses a
42:05
Speaker 1: tiny baby, then casually, nonchalantly goes over and grabs a
42:10
Speaker 1: piece of pizza. Now, I'm also curious to you, Bobby Maxwell,
42:15
Speaker 1: Crime Stories invest the end of Reporter about the mom,
42:18
Speaker 1: about the wife funneling money and visiting him behind bars.
42:22
Speaker 1: What do you make of that? I think she's still
42:25
Speaker 1: holding out hope that there's something left in their relationship.
42:28
Speaker 1: They are still married. Um, and she did it, she
42:31
Speaker 1: transferred the money, so she's still supporting him in in
42:34
Speaker 1: most ways. You know, I'm looking right now at photos
42:37
Speaker 1: of this little little baby, baby Lincoln Joseph Scott Morgan.
42:42
Speaker 1: He is so precious. Now I'm seeing the video now,
42:45
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the video of the dentist bringing him around,
42:49
Speaker 1: putting him like he's gonna put him in a baby
42:51
Speaker 1: high chair, and the baby is just hanging there limp.
42:55
Speaker 1: I mean, what happens when you're when you have that
42:59
Speaker 1: kind of injury, what happens to your brain? What do
43:02
Speaker 1: you feel? Initially what the child would have felt was
43:05
Speaker 1: the severe impact and that doesn't go to the emotional
43:08
Speaker 1: side of it, involving the terror and everything else that's involved.
43:11
Speaker 1: It would have been, uh, the child in the immediate
43:14
Speaker 1: would have felt a tremendous amount of pressure that would
43:18
Speaker 1: have been translated into what we would what we would perceive.
43:21
Speaker 1: It's like the most severe headache that you can possibly
43:24
Speaker 1: have to be pressure behind the child's eyes, the sinus
43:27
Speaker 1: cavities would be filling up with blood. It would it
43:30
Speaker 1: would be hard to kind of shake yourself out of
43:32
Speaker 1: it and clear. So essentially your brain if you will
43:36
Speaker 1: envision a brain becoming like a pair of lungs where
43:38
Speaker 1: it's it's just being compressed, uh, to the point where
43:43
Speaker 1: it can't function. Your your your the room is spending.
43:47
Speaker 1: It's a horrible, horrible situation. And Nancy, if I could
43:51
Speaker 1: just go to one more thing here. Um, we talked
43:54
Speaker 1: about the most vulnerable among us in the society, and
43:58
Speaker 1: we look at this little baby. You're your two little
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Speaker 1: angels were were uh, we're premius. Um, my wife and
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Speaker 1: I lost a child that that was premature, and um,
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Speaker 1: these are the most vulnerable among us. And this child
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Speaker 1: had had somehow, some way survived to this point. But
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Speaker 1: yet we're still dependent upon upon all of us to
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Speaker 1: to watch after him. And here this person is chosen,
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Speaker 1: this monster enters the house and subjects as child to
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Speaker 1: this kind of trauma. It's just heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking. It
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Speaker 1: really shows Sheryl McCollum how deceiving looks and appearances can be.
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Speaker 1: You know, I've told my husband a million times. One
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Speaker 1: of the times that I have loved him most. He
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Speaker 1: always tries to take me out to dinner, Cheryl, and
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Speaker 1: I always say, you know what you and I've been
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Speaker 1: eating together. We've been eating since nineteen seventy nine. Can
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Speaker 1: we stop? But And so one night, the children were
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Speaker 1: still infants, and um, you know, they they would feed
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Speaker 1: him whenever they wanted. They weren't on any kind of
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Speaker 1: a schedule. They'd be up at twelve thirty, five thirty
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Speaker 1: and I just get up at five thirty. And that's
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Speaker 1: when I was holding down two jobs and writing a book.
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Speaker 1: I was half dead, well so was he. One night,
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Speaker 1: I finally agree to go out and get something for dinner.
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Speaker 1: And he went out and black dress shoes that he
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Speaker 1: had warned to work that day, white athletics songs he
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Speaker 1: had on, uh, like running shorts that were a huge
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Speaker 1: and bag and hung down like around his knees. He
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Speaker 1: had on a looked like a golf shirt or something,
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Speaker 1: and a vest, like a fleece vest over it. I
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Speaker 1: don't think he had washed his hair in a week.
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Speaker 1: We were so diety out on a baseball at and
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Speaker 1: I looked it. I love you more right now, fatman ever.
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Speaker 1: Loved him my whole life, because all we were doing
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Speaker 1: was like just surviving and trying to take care of them.
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Speaker 1: Would be up, you know, nineteen twenty hours day and
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Speaker 1: we were just trying to get through because they were,
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Speaker 1: as Joe Scott was saying, so premature. But I was
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Speaker 1: just looking at this home that she was living in,
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Speaker 1: and she's a beautiful and accomplished woman. The home, Cheryl Karen,
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Speaker 1: you gotta look online and see this, Bobby, Joe Scott.
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Speaker 1: It won't mean anything to you. You're a man, sad like,
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Speaker 1: just don't take that. But look at this home. It
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Speaker 1: looks like a model home, like when you go to
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Speaker 1: an apartment or you're looking at a subdivision and the
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Speaker 1: model home is just perfect. Her home is perfect. It
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Speaker 1: looks like someone has coming and designed it, like in
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Speaker 1: a furniture store. And the baby looks perfect. It's in
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Speaker 1: all of its pictures, is perfectly decked out. If it's
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Speaker 1: at the pool, it's got on the full regalia. I mean,
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Speaker 1: everything looks perfect. Cheryl. Maybe the frightening thing is he
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Speaker 1: takes her out too harm to. Like you said, the
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Speaker 1: devil is not just you know, in the area. The
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Speaker 1: devil is at your dinner table. And I am telling
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Speaker 1: these women again, please pay attention if somebody is too
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Speaker 1: nice and too charming and too willing to take on
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Speaker 1: your children and too willing to say, oh, we can
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Speaker 1: make this work. You know, I'm separated. I've had a
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Speaker 1: loveless marriage for years, the same most they've been saying forever.
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Speaker 1: Please pay attention to that, because the reality is, if
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Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey called me, honey, I ain't interested in CHUCKI
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Speaker 1: cheese with his kids. That's the reality. And you know
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Speaker 1: what it's like. You go ahead. I want to hear this,
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum's dream man. Go ahead, let's not discerned my
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Speaker 1: dream man. I'm just saying, if he called hey, let's
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Speaker 1: get together, it ain't chucky cheese that I'm invisionment with
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Speaker 1: his kids. I would want one on one time with him.
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Speaker 1: So my point is she's young and she's beautiful, but
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Speaker 1: she's getting botox, so something in her needed more and
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Speaker 1: and feel like she was as beautiful as we see
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Speaker 1: that she clearly is. He picked up on Matt Nancy.
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Speaker 1: He chose her, He selected her as a victim, and
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Speaker 1: women need to be cognizant that that occurs. It ain't faith.
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, we saw each other in
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Speaker 1: the dentish chair and I just that was it. It
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Speaker 1: was worked b s. He selected you. You know, Karen
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Speaker 1: stark Um. My children both play soccer, and my son's
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Speaker 1: soccer coach looks like I mean, he looks like he
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Speaker 1: should be in an ad for you know those ad
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Speaker 1: machines that they have on TV where I think it's
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Speaker 1: sole flex. That may not even be the right way
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Speaker 1: to say it, but I mean he looks like a
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Speaker 1: Greek god sculpted. And I was standing there looking at
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Speaker 1: this coach out on the soccer field, and Lizzie said, Mobby,
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Speaker 1: why are you looking at him? I said, Lucy, if
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Speaker 1: your father ever starts going to the gym and bulking
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Speaker 1: up like that, okay, We're calling grand mommy because that's
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Speaker 1: just I need him at work. Okay, he's in trouble,
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Speaker 1: he can, he'll have time for a second job. And
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Speaker 1: she said, okay, mommy, if daddy starts working, Jim, we'll
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Speaker 1: tell autumn. And she said, but you know you said
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Speaker 1: that about that other man of the dad over there
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, when he wore that nice
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Speaker 1: suit two soccer press. I'm like, that's right. If your
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Speaker 1: father shows up in a two thousand dollar shoot, there's
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Speaker 1: a problem, Lucy. I want you to remember that when
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Speaker 1: you're growing up. Okay, So Karen's start. Sometimes if she's right,
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Speaker 1: if it looks too good to be true, it's not true.
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Speaker 1: Well it is too good to be true. And if
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Speaker 1: you keep reading about this particular case, nance you find
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Speaker 1: that there are times where he's been in touch with
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Speaker 1: the ex husband and he's been abusive on the phone
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Speaker 1: or in his messages. And she was able to ignore
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Speaker 1: the fact that there was something that was wrong even
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Speaker 1: in the threats that he was making to the ex husband.
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Speaker 1: Number One, he shouldn't have been involved, and he shouldn't
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Speaker 1: have been threatening him in the manner that he was
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Speaker 1: doing it. So there was an indication that there was
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Speaker 1: something very off about this man. And the problem is
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Speaker 1: when you're in love, those beginning stages of love, it's
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Speaker 1: it's not a normal state. It's very crazy. No, it's
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Speaker 1: very not And you have to exercise extra caution when
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Speaker 1: you have a child that cannot speak or defend itself
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Speaker 1: involved in the next Nancy Grace crime story. Signing off
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Speaker 1: goodbye friend,