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Happy Hour #218: A New (?) Hope · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm welcome to Stuff
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  Speaker 1: another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you're choosing
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  Speaker 1: to drink, please do so responsiblely. Whatever you're choosing to do,
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  Speaker 1: always be responsible. Yes, Samantha, are you up to anything?
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  Speaker 2: I am up with my bubble water. That's just gonna
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  Speaker 2: be the stable for me.
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  Speaker 1: What about you? Red Wine Stafle uh So. Before we
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  Speaker 1: love to see you, all right. So this feels kind
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  Speaker 1: of strange to me, but because of the way the
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  Speaker 1: calendar works, this is our Star Wars, our annual Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars Day episode that I do. It's coming out before
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  Speaker 1: it's even May. It feels wrong, but just the timing
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  Speaker 1: of things, this is when it has to happen. So
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  Speaker 1: this is where we are. But Star Wars Day, if
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  Speaker 1: you somehow don't know, if you somehow missed it from
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  Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, is May the fourth. There's also
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  Speaker 1: Revenge of the Fifth or Revenge of the sixth, and
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  Speaker 1: this is the May so there's a lot. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Star Wars stuff going on. But I have
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  Speaker 1: people I've talked about this before because I have this
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  Speaker 1: strong association with Star Wars. Everybody who's like Star Wars Day.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we need to talk to Annie. I've already
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  Speaker 1: got plans, and this weekend it just feels wrong. It
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  Speaker 1: feels too early. I don't I might. I just wish
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  Speaker 1: it could be it's on a Monday this year. It's
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  Speaker 1: not working for me, Samantha. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I'll change it for you if I could.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Oh, it would be so much
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  Speaker 1: better if it was not on a Monday. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: we roll with the punches, the Star Wars Day punches. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: random aside, I just have to put this in here.
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  Speaker 1: We recently did our Aliens episode and I'm there. I
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  Speaker 1: briefly mentioned Alien three and I said, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: who directed Alien three, but I know Josh Whedon wrote it.
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  Speaker 1: David Fincher directed Alien three, and I just want to clearly,
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  Speaker 1: I want that out of my system. When I remembered that,
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  Speaker 1: it like broke my brain, and I was so angry
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  Speaker 1: at my past self.
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  Speaker 2: That you couldn't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it was because I knew it was a famous director,
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  Speaker 1: but I couldn't remember it was David Fincher, and I
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  Speaker 1: thank you for the correction. I'm also mad that one
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  Speaker 1: of my friends who has never seen that movie was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh the David Fincher, Oh she's the reason she did
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  Speaker 1: you she did.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if illow you once and then it once.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was. I just remember having
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  Speaker 2: a very big.
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  Speaker 1: Victory over it. I feel like you've done it a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: Have I Okay, I just remember the one. Maybe you
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  Speaker 2: can't remember what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you had one that was like excruciatingly like a
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  Speaker 1: throwdown for me, and you counted it twice. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: could see that. I could see that. Well anyway, I
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  Speaker 1: had to get that out of my system. Oh no, yes,
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  Speaker 1: So this Star Wars Day does feel strange. I usually
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  Speaker 1: last year we went to a drag show. I usually
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  Speaker 1: go to the Plaza because they show one. The Plaza
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  Speaker 1: is a local independent theater in Atlanta. But this year
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  Speaker 1: they're showing Attack to the Clones, which I have to
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  Speaker 1: say it might be one of my Ley's favorites. That
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  Speaker 1: one's It does have a killer soundtrack, of course it does,
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  Speaker 1: because it's John Williams. I just don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: can I don't know. But last year I didn't go
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  Speaker 1: when they showed Phantom Menace and the actor who plays
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  Speaker 1: Obi Wan Kenobi Want McGregor showed up at the showing,
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  Speaker 1: and I still regret that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you do know that, Like there's a huge film
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  Speaker 2: festival happening in Atlanta and a lot of celebrity to
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  Speaker 2: hear going to the plaza specifically, like Josh Brolin has
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  Speaker 2: been here for his movie, so it wouldn't be surprising.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know someone showed up. I'm just letting you know.
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  Speaker 1: I have to weigh the pros and cons. Yeah, the potentials. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know I did rewatch Clone Wars maybe a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago. I know, I made you watch the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. You sure did the prequels, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: as bad as I remember it being. But I think
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  Speaker 1: that's because I remembered it being so awful.
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  Speaker 2: You did build it up to be like this is little,
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  Speaker 2: this is just awful. This is the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's his name?
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  Speaker 2: That one character you can't stand?
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  Speaker 1: I have a couple of those on the fort.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Alien who kind of just like is really clumsy
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  Speaker 2: the entire time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, George ar Binks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well a lot gave me a lot of
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  Speaker 2: heads up about that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that was fair of me. I think
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  Speaker 1: that was a legitimate thing for me to do. I
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  Speaker 1: actually pat myself on the back for warning you. One
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  Speaker 1: of the interesting things though, because I was talking to
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  Speaker 1: a friend of ours about our thoughts on the Prequels, because,
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  Speaker 1: as we've discussed before, they kind of are going through
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  Speaker 1: a renaissance right now, and he said he really appreciated
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  Speaker 1: Clone Wars as he was older, and he kind of
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  Speaker 1: gave me his reasons why, and I ultimately disagreed. But
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  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if it's like the Romantic one,
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  Speaker 1: and so I kind of wonder if I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: Not Is this the one where he talks about how
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  Speaker 2: he hates sand Is that one? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: And I agree, you're a really it's a fair point too.
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  Speaker 1: It gets everywhere. It's course, it gets everywhere. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if that's part of why I don't like
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  Speaker 1: that one so much. I'll have to reevaluate. The thing is,
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  Speaker 1: And this is part of what I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today, is that the Prequels, as many issues as
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  Speaker 1: they have, which I think are numerous, watching them now,
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  Speaker 1: it just hits differently because they are very much here's
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  Speaker 1: your democracy and here's the insidious effort that overturns it,
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  Speaker 1: and all of the ways and the good faith, the
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  Speaker 1: way good faith is manipulated to overturn it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: people have done side by sides of the rise of
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump and the rise of the Emperor from the prequels,
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  Speaker 1: and it's unsettling. It's like legitimately, like they even have
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  Speaker 1: a scene in the third one where the Emperor it says,
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  Speaker 1: this attack on my life has left me to fall,
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  Speaker 1: and he's got like a bandage on his ear. Is
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  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump? It's the same thing. It's eerie, it's
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  Speaker 1: really eerie. But it's about a fall of a republic
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  Speaker 1: and a bunch of institutions and then many many years
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  Speaker 1: of fascism and death and all of that that comes
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  Speaker 1: from it. And then you get to a new hope,
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  Speaker 1: and you know a new hope is coming, and so
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  Speaker 1: that's exciting and you're like, yes, yes, But then they
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  Speaker 1: came out with the sequels, and the sequels were actually
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  Speaker 1: like no, just kidding about that new hope. Park And
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  Speaker 1: I was watching Return of the Jedi with a friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine the other day and she said, this movie
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  Speaker 1: used to be so I would get to the end
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  Speaker 1: and I'd be so optimistic, and now I just know
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  Speaker 1: what's coming in the sequels, and I'm like, let's just
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  Speaker 1: end it here, friend, let's pretend the sequels.
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  Speaker 2: We're just gonna pretend it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: Well, put them in a separate category. You can you
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  Speaker 1: can have the days where you need it to end there,
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  Speaker 1: and then you can have the days where you reconcile
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  Speaker 1: with the fact that they did not in fact in there.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of new Star Wars stuff is really political,
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  Speaker 1: and it's always been very political. It's very it's very philosophical, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, superficially, it's kind of a kid's fairy tale
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  Speaker 1: in space, and that's the most like base way I
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  Speaker 1: could describe it. I think it's much more than that, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but if you think about why people get so invested
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  Speaker 1: in arguing about it, it is very philosophical. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of religious arguments you can have, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of political arguments you can have. And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the new stuff that's coming out is
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  Speaker 1: very political. So I don't want to say that's like
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  Speaker 1: deviating from the norm, but it's much darker when we
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  Speaker 1: did our original Star Wars Princess Leia episodes, we talked
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  Speaker 1: about why they were so successful. At least one of
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  Speaker 1: the main reasons they were so successful, and it's because
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  Speaker 1: they were optimistic in a time of it was like
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  Speaker 1: the Vietnam War, and people wanted to see something that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't so grim, and it also had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: facts people hadn't seen for but because it's so dark,
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  Speaker 1: and because the world we live in is so dark,
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  Speaker 1: and like the season in season two of and Or,
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  Speaker 1: they have a speech that feels like it's about Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: but that it was written before he was re elected, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: But it just is like, oh my gosh, this is
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  Speaker 1: the world we're living in. So it doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 1: the escape that I go to it for. So I
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  Speaker 1: actually haven't watched and Or season two. It's been out
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. It's been on my calendar for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, and I keep moving it week per week,
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  Speaker 1: like are you ready to mentally handle it this week? No?
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  Speaker 1: All right, push to the next week. And I know
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  Speaker 1: it's good. I know I'll like it. I think it'll
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  Speaker 1: depressed me, but I'll like it. And I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: about this too, because I've you know, been open about
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  Speaker 1: how in some cases, when the pandemic happened. For instance,
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  Speaker 1: here I was playing The Last of Us Too, which
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  Speaker 1: is an extremely depressing game, and it was like my
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  Speaker 1: comfort game. But I think that the politics aspect of
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars in and Or in this case is something
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  Speaker 1: that feels way more real to me. And so it's
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  Speaker 1: not I don't know, it doesn't have that level of
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  Speaker 1: Catharsis that the Last of Us two had for me.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, I have been putting off watching and Or,
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  Speaker 1: which is funny too because and Or season two ends
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  Speaker 1: right before Rogue one begins. Your favorite film. I just
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  Speaker 1: made a mistake, is all it haven't. And when I
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  Speaker 1: saw Rogue one it was really sad and depressing, but
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  Speaker 1: I again I knew a new hope was coming. But
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  Speaker 1: now the sequels hangover the whole thing. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: even want to talk about all of the retcons I'm
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  Speaker 1: having to deal with right now. But that's that's another reason.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know what, maybe I'll stick to
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  Speaker 1: my fan fiction for now, my original trilogy, and let
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  Speaker 1: you all sort this out and stop putting me through
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  Speaker 1: emotional turmoil for decisions that you will backtrack on months
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  Speaker 1: later Anyway, I did also want to briefly mention because
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  Speaker 1: Savers doing an episode on this around this time of year,
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  Speaker 1: there is a lot of marketing that comes out Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars marketing, and we're doing some of the biggest examples
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: of all time. And I was researching that before we
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: started recording this actually, and you know, for better or worse,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people would say for worse Star
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Wars was there in the early days they were like
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: pioneering the marketing game, and I was surprised that it
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: was in nineteen seventy seven when the first one came out,
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  Speaker 1: they were already like Burger king seller stuff. So that's
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me that now, like if you go to
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  Speaker 1: the store right now, you'll see multiple, multiple items. And
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it makes me laugh that, you know, Darth Vader
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  Speaker 1: is on everything. He would be so angry. But also,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the message of the original trilogy was very
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  Speaker 1: fascism is bad. Maybe not do give all these companies
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  Speaker 1: all this money, and then here it is, it's everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: One of the reasons this is this particular aspect of
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  Speaker 1: this conversation that's been on my mind is I did vote.
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  Speaker 1: It is the preliminary election here in Georgia. The ballot
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  Speaker 1: was very long. It took me a long time actually,
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  Speaker 1: both to research and to vote. Now, the line there
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  Speaker 1: was no line walked right in early voting, and I
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: got one of those fantastic kind of passive aggressive postcards
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  Speaker 1: in the mail that was like, we can't tell who
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  Speaker 1: you vote for, but we'll know if you voted, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Which is really not cool. That's such a weird we
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  Speaker 2: have on record. Well, bro, that makes me not want
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  Speaker 2: to vote, even though I'm a proponent voting. Stop doing that.
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  Speaker 1: The one I got was so cute, I didn't mind.
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  Speaker 1: It had like a lot of like drawings of stars
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  Speaker 1: on it. I was like, oh, okay, cute drawings as
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  Speaker 1: they threatened me. Yes essentially essentially. But you know, obviously
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  Speaker 1: a lot is going on when it comes to politics,
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  Speaker 1: not only in the US but in the world. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars has been utilized in that UH as kind
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  Speaker 1: of a source of rebellion in a lot of cases,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes what I think is a really fundamental misunderstanding
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  Speaker 1: of what movies mean on the ultra conservative side, but
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  Speaker 1: people using like Obi wan speech about the fall Republic
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  Speaker 1: and people using Lea as a joined the resistance kind
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  Speaker 1: of sign which we talked about in the Princess La episodes.
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  Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons it's been on my mind.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I was kind of trying to think of
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  Speaker 1: how we're going to celebrate this Star Wars day and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, we could watch and or and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, I just don't think I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think i'm ready for it. I think I
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  Speaker 1: need the optimism. I think I need the optimism. And
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  Speaker 1: then one other thing I was thinking about was wanting
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  Speaker 1: to hold on to things, this kind of idea of
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: wanting to hold on to I want to hold onto
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  Speaker 1: the idea that it did work out after Return of
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  Speaker 1: the Jedi, which I had long held until the sequels
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  Speaker 1: came out, and I was reading the books and the
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  Speaker 1: comics and all of that, and just all of these
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  Speaker 1: things that sometimes give me anxiety. When I see other
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  Speaker 1: people have moved on, I guess like they're like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 1: They're never going to bring back the Jedi or the
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  Speaker 1: Republic or any new new ideas, which maybe they do.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a part of me that wants to hold
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  Speaker 1: on to this, and so I I have been trying
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  Speaker 1: to examine. I don't know the pros and cons. I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's It's ultimately an escapism for me, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to take it too too seriously. But in
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  Speaker 1: the real world, yes, I should be examining somethings. But
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  Speaker 1: in my escapist world sometimes I need it to end
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  Speaker 1: at Return of the Jedi.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. And I you know, I probably won't even
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  Speaker 1: see the new movie. I'll wait and see what people say.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a new movie.
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  Speaker 1: With the Mandalorian and Grogu yep. Oh, Burger King has
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  Speaker 1: a whole menu based on it. Really, Yes, how little
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  Speaker 1: I know? Okay, yes, not a sponsor. Not a sponsor
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, I'll see. But I've also just been,
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  Speaker 1: as I've been very open about on the show, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: have been depressed and hyper fixated lately, and so getting
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: me out of the house requires like luring me with
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  Speaker 1: something uh perfect. Yeah, not even a Star Wars movie
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  Speaker 1: is always enough. Sometimes it needs to be something else also,
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  Speaker 1: But I'm coming out of that slowly. Yes, yes, it's yes. Well,
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  Speaker 1: one thing I do love and I would love for
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