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Stranded In The Future From The Founding Father Of Alternative Robyn Hitchcock · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Wow, there you are. Where have you been? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's about showing up right, You on your side, me
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  Speaker 1: on my side. That's why we created aro dot net
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  Speaker 1: it's like to be a podcast listener, because oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I am one and nothing, nothing gets me more than
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  Speaker 1: when I'm in the middle of traffic and I can't
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  Speaker 1: get to another podcast because it's on a different platform.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to do it all on arow
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  Speaker 1: dot net A R r oe dot net. Keep your
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  Speaker 1: eyes on the road and the job. Enjoy the exploration.
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  Speaker 2: I Bill's here with me, or I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: With Bill and we're all together harmony. How about that? Man,
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  Speaker 1: let's create a song about that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, here we are. How are you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic and I'm very excited to share a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with you because you're releasing this book at a
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  Speaker 1: time where I want to believe that today's music searching
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  Speaker 1: and seeking through fans of music is greater than it
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  Speaker 1: was during the days of Tower Records and even music Land,
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  Speaker 1: because people to know, they want new things, they're trying
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  Speaker 1: new things, they want to explore, and you're given us
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  Speaker 1: that avenue of not only are we going to find
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  Speaker 1: your music, but we're going to get the story as well.
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  Speaker 1: And I commend you for that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, I hope you do get the story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to bring it to life. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that had to be an emotional draw for you in
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  Speaker 1: order to bring it to life and to be able
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  Speaker 1: to be you know, right in tune with everything.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you mean in him with what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: Then, absolutely compared to today, because I always believe that
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  Speaker 1: we can't get anywhere today without yesterday, and yesterday had
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  Speaker 1: to happen for today to happen.
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  Speaker 2: That is so true.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday is the stepping stone to tomorrow. Let's hope there
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  Speaker 3: is one. Yeah it was, you know, it was a
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  Speaker 3: long time ago, but I like to I've got to
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  Speaker 3: that time in life where I want to try and
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  Speaker 3: make it, preserve what I remember, you know, and make
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  Speaker 3: it into a story.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: Did your songs become your journal then? I mean, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean when you're like that, you charged up my
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  Speaker 1: energy when you start talking like that. Because I totally
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  Speaker 1: believe in keeping a written journal.
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  Speaker 3: I do that, but I didn't do that back then.
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  Speaker 3: I think I just wrote the songs. I've journaled more
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  Speaker 3: in the last ten years, I think, since I've been
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  Speaker 3: based in the States. But my songs were I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what they were. I just know that I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to write them, and I spent a very long time
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  Speaker 3: training myself to write them. And to begin with, they
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  Speaker 3: were pretty terrible, but eventually I kind of learned to
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I love about what you've done with
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  Speaker 1: this project is the fact that the book cover itself
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  Speaker 1: is such an attraction. The hot pink, a touch of yellow.
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  Speaker 1: But I see clocks. It's almost like you're saying, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a time traveler. Let's go for a let's go for
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  Speaker 1: a trip through time, because there's something you need to
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  Speaker 1: know about this journey. So are you? Do you love
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  Speaker 1: time as well?
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  Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by time. I don't know if if time
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  Speaker 3: is my friend, but.
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  Speaker 2: I know that.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't get anywhere without it, nor would the rest
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  Speaker 3: of us. You know, if there was no time, everything
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  Speaker 3: would happen at once.
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  Speaker 1: So now, how do you handle that? When time is
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  Speaker 1: basically I mean when you jump from stage to stage
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  Speaker 1: or from song to song, you know that that's going
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  Speaker 1: to require time, and sometimes it feels like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: only spent fifteen minutes on it. You turn around and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, no, it was two hours, dude. How
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  Speaker 1: do you get that back or do you even want
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  Speaker 1: that time back?
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  Speaker 3: I think you have to accept how it makes you feel,
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  Speaker 3: and just you know, sometimes time is going slower than
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  Speaker 3: you think, Particularly for me on stage, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I've been up there for hours and actually it's only
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  Speaker 3: sixty five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: So I think time moves very slowly when I'm on stage.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably the opposite of being drunk or something. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. You know, you you're I think I'm just accelerated.
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  Speaker 3: When I'm on stage. My mind is working much faster,
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  Speaker 3: so time goes slower. But you know, if you're not,
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  Speaker 3: if you're not thinking about it, time just slips through
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  Speaker 3: your fingers, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: So like when you're up on stage, Robin or you
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  Speaker 1: like me in the way that you'll look out at
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  Speaker 1: everybody and it's almost like you can see their stories
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  Speaker 1: happening right before your eyes. Because to me, it's just
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  Speaker 1: as entertaining watching people as it is for them to
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  Speaker 1: watch me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is that what you do? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I love me a live audience. Oh my god, I
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  Speaker 1: love a live audience. I mean, did you find yourself
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  Speaker 1: being addicted to it?
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  Speaker 2: I seem to keep doing it, so I guess I must.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. You can't put it away in the top drawer,
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  Speaker 1: can't you. I mean, this is one of those things
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  Speaker 1: that it's just going to hang out with you for
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  Speaker 1: a long time.
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  Speaker 3: No, my top top drawer is too crowded to put
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  Speaker 3: that in there. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I'd have to
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  Speaker 3: throw out some socks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have to go into a time zone in
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  Speaker 1: order to write the music, because it's almost like you
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  Speaker 1: have to become the actor in order to have the
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  Speaker 1: emotion when you do start putting it with the instrumentation
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  Speaker 1: of a song. Did you have to slip away from
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  Speaker 1: this world?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how much I'm ever in this world anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Some people don't think I am at all, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I always I've always got half of me is connected
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  Speaker 3: to somewhere else. I guess it's maybe it's just a
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  Speaker 3: safety say, you know, locate the exit nearest to you
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  Speaker 3: kind of thing, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, But I totally understand that because people accuse me nowadays.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you can't hear a word I'm saying. And I
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  Speaker 1: look at them and I go, it's not that I
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  Speaker 1: can't hear you. I'm just not here to listen to you.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you give me like a hands up that
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  Speaker 1: you're going to speak to me?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess you look at someone and they open
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  Speaker 3: their mouth, the chances are they going to say something.
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  Speaker 2: Whether you listen to it or not is up to you.
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  Speaker 1: Really now, Now, being the founding father of alternative rock,
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  Speaker 1: I got I got to tell you. I was a
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  Speaker 1: music director of ninety five point one. I was really
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  Speaker 1: so much against alternative music because I didn't want it
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  Speaker 1: to be played every five minutes like radio tends to
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  Speaker 1: do with their songs. So I was fighting to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that it stayed underground. What was your side of
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  Speaker 1: the journey when all of a sudden it was being
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  Speaker 1: played everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Well, by that stage, I was probably not so much
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  Speaker 3: part of it, you know, I was part of the
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  Speaker 3: I was part of a small the kind of thing
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  Speaker 3: that was played on Sunday night on MTV, you know,
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty minutes, and the kind of stuff
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  Speaker 3: that was on college radio and uncertain I don't know
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  Speaker 3: where was ninety five point one was that in Charlotte.
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  Speaker 1: It was in Charlotte, it sure was, yeah, And we
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  Speaker 1: were trying to become the different one, and so therefore,
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  Speaker 1: you know, alternative music was our only answer. So in reality,
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  Speaker 1: we were the first, but then everybody started copying us
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  Speaker 1: after the popularity of alternative music started taking over.
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  Speaker 3: I think once it started taking over, it was no
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  Speaker 3: longer truly alternative is the answer, you know, So things
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  Speaker 3: like when Nirvana and Pearl Jam broke it became mainstream
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  Speaker 3: and that whole the whole grunge thing, but also r
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  Speaker 3: Em you know, they they were definitely alternative with a
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  Speaker 3: small A, and then they became alternative with a big A,
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  Speaker 3: and then they became global chart toppers. So at that point,
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  Speaker 3: you know, all kinds of stations were playing them. They'd
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  Speaker 3: only play people like me still on the sort of
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  Speaker 3: specialist shows. I had a couple of songs that maybe
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  Speaker 3: got daytime play, but I was much more on the
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  Speaker 3: other side.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, you're absolutely right about that, because what we
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  Speaker 1: would do is we would do the cross format, which
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  Speaker 1: is like the center dot was was the hit song,
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  Speaker 1: and you were always going to be on either side.
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  Speaker 1: Of that X. In other words, I would do the
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  Speaker 1: center song out to the side, center song out to
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  Speaker 1: the side. And that's how we got your music on year.
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  Speaker 1: Was that we put you inside the mix, but we
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  Speaker 1: had to go through formatics in order to break it.
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  Speaker 1: Or we would create a specialty show and put your
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  Speaker 1: music on that and give you the limelight there.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, well, thank you. That was that was much appreciated.
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  Speaker 1: Now to grow with that though, because I mean this
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  Speaker 1: is pre social media. We didn't have that. Oh I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna jump on to chat, GPT or I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to go on to you know, some sort of like
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  Speaker 1: LinkedIn or anything like that to put your song up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you were going to TikTok something that
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be generations up the road, what did you
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  Speaker 1: do personally in order to stay socially networked in.
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  Speaker 2: Back then? That's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how did people communicate before cell phones? You know,
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  Speaker 3: I remember people stopping at a payphone to call the
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  Speaker 3: gigs to find out where we were playing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And so I think I mean it was actually largely
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  Speaker 3: through the record company or the promotional people the record
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  Speaker 3: company used.
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  Speaker 2: So all of what we're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Now would have just been on a you know, a landline,
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  Speaker 3: a dial phone even, and so people would arrange phoners.
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  Speaker 3: What were n if it's still called phoners, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: so the short answer, arrow is it was all all phones, telephones,
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  Speaker 3: not phones like they are now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was such an exciting time for radio, that
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  Speaker 1: alternative movement, because it was like, you guys totally got
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  Speaker 1: what the grassroots movement was all about. And that meant
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  Speaker 1: that you had to get out there and you got
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  Speaker 1: to hoof it up. You got to go out there
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  Speaker 1: and meet the jocks, and you got to go out
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  Speaker 1: there and meet the people. And that's what I loved
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  Speaker 1: about that whole entire movement is it reminded me so
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  Speaker 1: much of being a folk rock era more than anything.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, were you around in the folk rock times?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you I played enough with that folk
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  Speaker 1: rock to know I had to study it, yes, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, okay, yeah. Well I certainly met a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, and I'm still friends with some of
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  Speaker 3: the DJs now who are retired or you know, got
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  Speaker 3: a Saturday morning show or something. But I've still got
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  Speaker 3: some people I met wow forty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Now, so did you. Did you ever run into those
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  Speaker 1: jocks though that always thought that, oh I can sing
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  Speaker 1: that song, I can have a good time with that song,
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  Speaker 1: because I think radio people are just musicians that didn't
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  Speaker 1: make it. So we chose a different form of getting
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  Speaker 1: our microphone out there.
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  Speaker 2: I know what you mean.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know, you run across DJs who are
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  Speaker 3: definitely performers themselves, and you know, would like to be
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  Speaker 3: rocking out or whatever, and they do it at the
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  Speaker 3: mic instead. You know, you get very extrovert broadcasters. You
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  Speaker 3: I think you're one, you know, and it's great and
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  Speaker 3: entertains people. It kind of caffeinates people.
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  Speaker 2: You know. It's a sort of way here we are.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go right, you know, Hey, ho and what I
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  Speaker 3: call what I call caffeinated.
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  Speaker 1: He's the founding father of alternative music. We're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: right back with Robin Hitchcock coming up next, the name
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  Speaker 1: in the book Stranded in the Future. We are back
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  Speaker 1: with the frontman of Soft Boys, mister Robin Hitchcock. You've
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  Speaker 1: got something on here as a quote that really I
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  Speaker 1: would love to see on a T shirt, some sort
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  Speaker 1: of merch here, and that quote is your music paintings.
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  Speaker 1: You can listen to Oh my God. Yeah, when I
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  Speaker 1: came across that robin, I sat there. I literally I
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  Speaker 1: had to I had to close my eyes and go
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  Speaker 1: this man just spoke to my soul.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really, well, well thank you very much. No, it's good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, my dad used to paint and draw,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's just so I do.
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  Speaker 1: And so I.
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  Speaker 3: Think of myself as a visual artist. But I'm but
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  Speaker 3: I'm in music, you know. So when I write a song,
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  Speaker 3: I have pictures, you know, like like like Crase to
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  Speaker 3: have videos. In the height of MTV, everybody had to
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  Speaker 3: make a video to go with a song, otherwise you
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't get airplay. You know, even people like me did
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  Speaker 3: little low budget ones. And I suppose it's the same
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  Speaker 3: thing basically means giving something to look at. Yeah, well
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  Speaker 3: only my song's basically you shouldn't really need a video.
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  Speaker 3: You just listen to the words and then the pictures
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  Speaker 3: will appear in your head.
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  Speaker 2: That's the idea.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's what I love about the word interpretation, because
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  Speaker 1: your interpretation versus my interpretation. All of a sudden, we
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  Speaker 1: now have a conversation while we see you live on stage,
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  Speaker 1: and we both come out with even a third interpretation,
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  Speaker 1: because now we've seen it live.
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  Speaker 3: Well exactly everybody walks away with how they see it.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what makes music phenomenal. And that's why this
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  Speaker 1: period in music history, with these streaming outlets, gives us
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to go explore Robin, to find you all
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  Speaker 1: over again, to sit there and see the Soft Boys
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  Speaker 1: and see and if people have never seen the Soft
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  Speaker 1: Boys before or even heard them before, it's brand new, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's brand new material to hate you hear that new
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  Speaker 1: band Softboys. Oh you know they've been around for a while, right,
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  Speaker 1: Not in my heart? They just arrived.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we just re released the first, the second Softboys album,
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  Speaker 3: Underwater Moonlight, on Tiny Ghosts, that label that my wife
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  Speaker 3: Emma runs, And yeah, you know we've so the Softboys
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  Speaker 3: can be rediscovered anew. There it is Underwater Moonlight available now.
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  Speaker 1: So do you find yourself in love with the beauty
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  Speaker 1: of the unexpected? Because I kind of like that shock
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  Speaker 1: value of the everyday world when things hit you unexpectedly.
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  Speaker 3: I like the unexpected, although I don't really like it
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  Speaker 3: when it happens to me.
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  Speaker 2: I like reading I like reading about it. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: very good with surprises.
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  Speaker 1: That to me is like, Okay, somebody's telling me I
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  Speaker 1: need to be writing a song or some poetry right now,
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  Speaker 1: so you grab the pen and you start putting it down.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm much prefer to live in that world than
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  Speaker 3: actually have to deal with things firsthand.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm very happy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I personally do unexpected things to people.
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  Speaker 3: I hope not too much, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of my favorite places in a book to
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  Speaker 1: go to someplace that's very unexpected. I love going to
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  Speaker 1: the dedication, and of course my mind is going, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god. My unexpected moment right now is I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who TK is? Oh my god, who is TK?
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  Speaker 1: Why did TK make this part of the book. I
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  Speaker 1: need to know. I need to know.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, and I have no idea who TK is either.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but see, that's what's great about writing a book.
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  Speaker 1: Now you've putting your words in people's hands. This is
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  Speaker 1: almost like giving us that opportunity to return to the
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  Speaker 1: old fashioned days in a modern way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you can, absolutely, what.
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  Speaker 1: Did you learn from this project, Robin? Because when you
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  Speaker 1: go in and you start reshing, often everything that's happened
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  Speaker 1: in your life. You get a clearer picture of the
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  Speaker 1: journey that you walked on.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm also selective. I'm not writing about everything that happened.
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking the things that did happen that work in
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  Speaker 3: a story, and I'm also inventing a bit. You know,
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  Speaker 3: what I say is true, but it's not necessarily factual.
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  Speaker 3: So not everything that happens in my books actually did happen.
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  Speaker 2: Or could have happened.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it goes off into a parallel world, but I
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  Speaker 3: think it enhances the story. My main concern is that
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  Speaker 3: people enjoy reading the book. Well.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's the reason why I like that when people
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  Speaker 1: say based on a true story, Because in reality, Robin,
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  Speaker 1: aren't our real lives based on a true story. When
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  Speaker 1: we're putting it on paper, we lived it, but it's
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  Speaker 1: still based on a true story.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what we tell ourselves is based on a true
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  Speaker 3: story because we probably also, even without writing a book,
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  Speaker 3: we probably remember the things the way that works.
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  Speaker 2: Best for us.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we remember things selectively, and we remember things
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  Speaker 3: in a way that we can so we can live
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  Speaker 3: with ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: You know, another thing that you planted inside my imagination
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  Speaker 1: was a street that doesn't lead anywhere right away. The
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  Speaker 1: very second that I came across that, I'm going, my god,
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  Speaker 1: this Robin really does paint pictures inside my imagination. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're sitting right there in front of me. But yet
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  Speaker 1: my imagination just took off because you started that engine.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Well good, I'm glad see where it takes you.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: So, Nett, do you find this to be a great
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: place of expression or do you find yourself wanting to
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: go in and now make a soundtrack to this book.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make a soundtrack because I lived
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: it that I was writing. I was writing songs at
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: the time, so there are songs, especially towards the.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: End that I wrote.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: There is a kind of soundtrack I suppose you know
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: it ends with the early soft Boys. But no, it
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: makes me just want to get on and write another book.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, what do you like about that process?
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Because it's one of those where because a book can
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: take you anywhere between a year and a half and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: three years to do, and then you have to go
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: through that damn editing with that editor and it's like, oh,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you didn't live at miss editor, and come on, you
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: weren't there with me. How do you deal with that,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: when the editors come in to get you to kind
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: of shape things up a bit.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I'm lucky they haven't done that so far because I
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: revise the book so much. Every time I write a
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: bit more, I read through the whole thing. So yeah,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: it's pretty edited by the time they get it now.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Not to sound like that we're being selfish or anything
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: like that, because I'm guilty of the crime. When you
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: do go back and read something that you've put on
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: paper to me, I get emotional. I do. I can't
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: hold it back. And it's like, dude, you live this
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: life and you're getting emotional. Yeah, I really do. You
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: get emotional as well.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Well when I read back what I've written.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, No. The funny thing is it looks like a story,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: and I begin to detach from it. I think, oh, okay,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: here's my life as a story. It's almost as if
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: somebody else has fictionalized it, you know, So I in
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: a way.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: It helps me let it go. I think, which is
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: which is good?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: You know, I've reached the age where I just want
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: to store these little nuggets of experience for other people.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: So what do you do with that transition period? Because
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the songwriter versus the book writer. Are they one and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the same people or is it that you You've got
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to be able to have that separation there between the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: two because the songwriter is always going to want to
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: be it's going to I call it twitter speak, it's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: gonna gonna want to be you know, rhythmic as well
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: as short words. To the point.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good point. When I'm writing.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: You know, if a song occurs to me, I just
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: write it down. So it's it's not like either or
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I can do both. You know, if I've if I
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: suddenly find a song lyric occurring to me while I'm
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: writing a book, I'll just write the song lyric down
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: somewhere else. But the songs of just little fragments of
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: words and melody. You know, you have a couple of
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: words on a tune and you grow a song from that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: But it's connected, it's connected.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Well see, that's what I love about writing music is
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that it's pieces parts from a journey that you've had
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and then it comes together for somebody in this modern world,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and they'll never understand that story until they pick up
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a book like this one right here, stranded in the future.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Because they needed to understand where did this life come from?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Where did this story come from? And you give it
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to us?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Robin, Well, thank you very much. I'm glad.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about everything
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you're doing? Because I just learned about the Softboys re
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: releasing that album, so now I got to know more
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: about everything you're up to.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Well, if you go to my website, that's a pretty
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: good one that has a lot of stuff that's currently available,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: but it has my videos and you know it's got
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: some backstory, it'll tell you. I'll tell you what records
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: still exist, and you know there's I would start there probably.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I love it. Well, you got to come back to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: this show anytime in the future, dude, because the door
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: is always going to be open for you.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Arrow, I look forward to it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Robin? Likewise, great talking to you.