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Kimia Behpoornia Disobeys Bridger · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

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  Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I've gotta made myself perfectly clear.
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  Speaker 1: When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come
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  Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guest, you're o
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  Speaker 1: presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff, So.
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  Speaker 2: How do you dare to surbey me?
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  Speaker 3: Listener? Before the show begins, just letting you know that
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  Speaker 3: we are doing a live show at Dynasty Typewriter here
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  Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, August twenty second, at seven thirty pm.
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  Speaker 3: You were going to have wonderful guests. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: All kinds of exciting things will be happening. Maybe I'll
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  Speaker 3: I expect everyone to be there or to be there
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  Speaker 3: the time of our lives. I'll see you August twenty second,
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  Speaker 3: welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Winegger. We
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  Speaker 3: are here in the studio. I made it here safely
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  Speaker 3: without for the first time, without using the map. I
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  Speaker 3: did it all through muscle memory. Didn't think of whatever happened.
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  Speaker 3: But I got here, and I know the two freeways
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  Speaker 3: and how to get onto the second freeway. Hopefully I'm
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  Speaker 3: not jinxing myself now. But that was a big accomplishment
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  Speaker 3: for me this morning. What else is going on? Let's see,
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  Speaker 3: I was alerted this morning by my fridge that I
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  Speaker 3: need to order a new water filter. Everybody wants something
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  Speaker 3: from me, but I we'll see how long it takes
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  Speaker 3: me to actually order it. I'll probably go six weeks
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  Speaker 3: with the water not being filtered. Who's going to be
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  Speaker 3: hurt by that? My body can handle a little few
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  Speaker 3: extra minerals. Other than that, I think that's about it.
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  Speaker 3: I have a very busy day, so let's don't get
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  Speaker 3: in my way. I'm doing this. I'm getting a haircut.
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  Speaker 3: Next time you see the show, i'll have a different hairstyle.
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  Speaker 3: Well it'll be the same one but shorter, So look
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  Speaker 3: forward to that. I want to get into the show.
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  Speaker 3: Today's guest is absolutely fantastic. It's Kimia Bapornia. Kimia, welcome
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  Speaker 3: to I said no gifts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty good? You know. I was wondering about your
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  Speaker 2: haircut because you're here pretty short.
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  Speaker 3: This is a new thing where I've like, I think
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  Speaker 3: i've my barber. Then I love him. Caesar gives me
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  Speaker 3: a great haircut. I finally found someone I can count
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  Speaker 3: on in Los Angeles for not too much money. Sure
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  Speaker 3: close to my house. Oh yeah, but he's The haircuts
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  Speaker 3: he's are giving me now are slightly shorter than I
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  Speaker 3: used to get. Okay, So when it gets to what
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  Speaker 3: is typically what would be a normal short haircut for me,
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  Speaker 3: I think, now it's too long.
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  Speaker 2: M Now, I don't follow that, but I hear you.
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  Speaker 2: Good for you let me.
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  Speaker 3: He does a fade starting with a point five, and
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  Speaker 3: so right now I think I'm probably at a one. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: And so we got to get.
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  Speaker 2: Back to how I found okay cool, how.
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  Speaker 3: Often should I be getting a haircut?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, boy, hair's crazy, right, You got to
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  Speaker 2: like really keep it going.
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  Speaker 3: Girl, You can, like you can go a couple extra weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like a year. Oh yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean I could get to that point have like shoulder
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  Speaker 3: length cool. I think frightening.
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  Speaker 2: Really, you're not down.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it would curl. It gets really wavy.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm imagining for you, And I think awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I wonder. Yeah, I feel like you, like men
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  Speaker 3: are allowed to kind of experiment with their hair from
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  Speaker 3: age like thirteen to twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's a big window.
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  Speaker 3: But after that it's like you you pick the haircut,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to have poor the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise it's like a giant change. We're like. Women can
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  Speaker 3: get like, oh I've got I'm trying a new thing.
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  Speaker 3: People are like, yeah, of course you're trying a new thing.
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  Speaker 3: Men when they're trying a new thing, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like a little bit shakier. Maybe it's because of
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  Speaker 3: the shortness of it. It's hard to like you.
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  Speaker 2: Really have to go through a lot of time to
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  Speaker 2: get it long, right, Yeah, and it looks very much different.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and everybody has the stage of between short
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  Speaker 3: and long.
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  Speaker 2: That's the bad one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they just have to lock themselves.
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  Speaker 2: For fabio hair stage.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind, just like disappearing for six months and
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  Speaker 3: reappearing with a new hair stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that's what I do. Yeah, people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: so that's what you were working on. Yeah, just changing
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  Speaker 3: your look.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's huge these days.
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  Speaker 3: You're getting your haircut twice a year. But the thing
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  Speaker 3: is a lot. That's the thing. That's a big secret.
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  Speaker 3: Men pay think they're paying less once a month, but
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  Speaker 3: evens out. Yeah, I'm paying I guess I could say this.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's as cheap at that you can get
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  Speaker 3: in Los Angeles without really being cheap. Forty five dollars,
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's great. I pay like two hundred something my
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  Speaker 2: two times. I go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But see now we're thinking about me doing it twelve
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  Speaker 3: times a year. Okay, I'm paying about five hundred dollars
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  Speaker 3: a year in haircuts. We're even, we're even. It all
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  Speaker 3: evens out, it all comes out in the wash.
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  Speaker 2: And that's in quality.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: That's quality. We're not talking about that.
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  Speaker 3: But we're not talking about Well, I'm an electric car,
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  Speaker 3: but I still have to pay for the electricity, the gas, money.
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  Speaker 2: Of it all. Oh yeah, use paying more, but my
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  Speaker 2: haircuts farther.
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  Speaker 3: Oh interest, Yeah, see I'm on.
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  Speaker 2: The east side and I'm driving down to Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so again, men and women are even. No one
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  Speaker 3: has anything to complain about. Everything is totally equal in and.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I came here to speak on.
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  Speaker 3: Did you have you been with your hair person for
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  Speaker 3: a long time?
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  Speaker 2: I have, actually our our mutual friend Patrick also goes
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  Speaker 2: to this hair person and any curly hair person I
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  Speaker 2: run into. That's like I'm looking for someone. I go,
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  Speaker 2: you go find Maria she.
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  Speaker 3: Rocks carea Rea. Maybe I should see I have a
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  Speaker 3: weird thing where my hair is not straight or curly,
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  Speaker 3: and when wet it's straighter. And so like barbers, I
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  Speaker 3: think frequently overestimate how short they should cut my hair
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  Speaker 3: because when it curls, it gets shorter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, that's that's how it goes.
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  Speaker 3: So sometimes if they're not aware, they'll go too short,
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  Speaker 3: and then when it dries out, when it's completely dry,
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  Speaker 3: now it's a disaster. But you can't how do you
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  Speaker 3: communicate that to them?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you should know hair is their job.
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  Speaker 3: Hair is their They should kind of know that that, yes,
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  Speaker 3: Like how to get to that point?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just got less because when it dries, it
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  Speaker 2: shrinks up.
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  Speaker 3: And I think I've gotten to that place with my guy,
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  Speaker 3: but finding him was a huge challenge. Oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: bet yes. And you know the challenge. You're going to
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  Speaker 3: a place that cut your hair bad. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 3: you go to another place to cut your hairbad, and
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  Speaker 3: then you go to a place where the guy has
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  Speaker 3: political opinions where you're not entirely sure it stands. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's a whole experience that stuff. My guy doesn't really.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to me, okay, and we like that.
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  Speaker 3: I well, see, I do like that, but my boyfriend
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  Speaker 3: has started going to him, and I found out that
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  Speaker 3: he talks to my boyfriend. So I'm like, uh, is
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  Speaker 3: my personally so off putting? What about me is putting off?
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  Speaker 3: Don't talk? Well, I mean I'm getting what I want,
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  Speaker 3: you prefer, but now of course i want something.
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  Speaker 2: Else because you heard that.
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  Speaker 3: Mister popular. Okay, yeah, but of course if he started
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  Speaker 3: talking to me, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Sure I'd be like, please listen, let's not know.
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  Speaker 3: So there's no winning for this poor barber.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Just talk like I just talk
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  Speaker 2: like twice maybe in.
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  Speaker 3: This what are you talking about during a haircut.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes she'll initiate and be like, so, what's going on you?
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  Speaker 3: Sure?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very open, and then I'll kind of just tell
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  Speaker 2: her two things I'm up to, right, and she doesn't respond.
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  Speaker 3: She doesn't divulge anything.
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  Speaker 2: No. I mean, then I'll ask her like going on
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  Speaker 2: any vacation soon, and she'll tell me in one sentence
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  Speaker 2: she's not very chatty.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's kind of the place you need to be.
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  Speaker 3: I want them focusing on my hair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: My personal life is extremely boring. I don't need to
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  Speaker 3: be dull, you know, putting them to sleep while they're snipping, and.
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  Speaker 2: I don't not boring, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Well apparently Caesar thinks so.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, Caesar's just feeling that you don't want to chat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe go in there today, chat it up, ruin
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, be so chatty today.
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  Speaker 3: My other is when you get to an area of
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  Speaker 3: taste where it's like, oh, what TV are you watching?
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  Speaker 3: What movies? And then they start telling you things that
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  Speaker 3: and then you have to agree with whatever they're saying.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I've got If there's anyone in the
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  Speaker 3: world that I need to just be on a level.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be debating. It's the person that's fair.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair because when I I unfortunately am nothing makes
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  Speaker 3: me happy in the world of entertainment, and so I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how to have a normal conversation with a
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  Speaker 3: person without stepping on toes sure, without being like, well
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  Speaker 3: you have been like.
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  Speaker 2: That sucks, and that sucks. Okay, but it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: nice because like, to be fair, they said they liked
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  Speaker 2: anything you would have said it sucks, so true, that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of comforting.
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  Speaker 3: This is what I end up saying, is I just
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  Speaker 3: lie about especially I say I've never seen anything. Oh
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's good, I haven't seen that covers your basis.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have to see that. I'll have to see that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I do that a lot. I go, oh, I'll
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  Speaker 2: check that out, never never gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Or I've already checked it out and think it's despicable,
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  Speaker 3: and just I'm like, well, I can't break.
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  Speaker 2: It to you that yeah you're wrong, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well so you've I'm hoping that I get to I'm
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  Speaker 3: hoping this is the barber for the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll keep them silent, kill them tat today.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry I pushed you that way, you know, don't don't
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  Speaker 2: mess up a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: But then there's always this temptation for me of do
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  Speaker 3: I want to go to just once, go to a
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  Speaker 3: really expensive place and have them be like you've been
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  Speaker 3: doing it wrong all along.
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  Speaker 2: No, they can't. I don't think. Click. Maybe I'm just
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  Speaker 2: being dumb, but I don't think with short hair, boy hair,
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  Speaker 2: there can be much that you've biffed.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Okay, they can't be like this is what
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  Speaker 3: you should be doing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Your hair looks great like I think
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  Speaker 2: you're do.
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  Speaker 3: You know I'm not fishing for complimentation.
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  Speaker 2: You got them and it worked, it's looking good. Don't
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  Speaker 2: cut it? Actually canceled today?
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  Speaker 3: What do you do? They have a policy, they've got
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  Speaker 3: a twelve hour policy.
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  Speaker 2: You're twenty dollars.
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  Speaker 3: That would ruin the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get your twenty dollars for you to care. So
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  Speaker 2: make it long.
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  Speaker 3: I've got headphones on right now. I take them off,
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  Speaker 3: my hair could be a disaster. Then you've committed twenty dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine. I'll take that gamble. Twenty bucks. I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: hoping you take the headphones off and like luscious.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it just rolls to my ankles. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: that would be my dream.
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  Speaker 2: That would rock.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I could get to that length of hair
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  Speaker 3: in a month, just to dry it out. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: guess I could buy a wig. But that would be
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  Speaker 3: an expensive wig.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too much.
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  Speaker 3: Do they make wigs that long?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course they make wigs.
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  Speaker 3: They make all length wigs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, that you can get a kind of wig
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  Speaker 2: you like.
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  Speaker 3: That would be as much as a car the cost Yeah, probably,
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  Speaker 3: you think. Yeah, I mean if you were getting a
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  Speaker 3: good one, a good one, that would I imagine that
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  Speaker 3: would probably be fifteen thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know anything about wig costs.
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  Speaker 2: You're just kind of saying, and I'm like, yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: sounds right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if we think about we go to a let's say,
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  Speaker 3: a spirit Halloween a party city to buy a wig,
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  Speaker 3: that's where you're going. But like one of those is probably.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred dollars for a long wig there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're one hundred dollars because a short one is
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  Speaker 3: probably fifteen to thirty. Sure, So then if we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about real human hair. Then ankle length, that has to
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  Speaker 3: be fifteen thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what if it's like horsetail hair?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Is that more or less expensive than human hair?
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  Speaker 3: Gotta be less, right, No, it's a novelty.
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  Speaker 2: No no, no, it's god. Yeah, but it's got to
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  Speaker 2: be less because it'll look not like human hair.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll look unbelievably gorgeous. It'll look so conditioned.
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  Speaker 2: Not horse head hair, horsetail hair.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, the.
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  Speaker 2: Main, No, the back, mane, the butt, main.
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  Speaker 3: That's the technical term. But I can tell you're a cowgirl.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually horse is my least favorite animal.
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  Speaker 3: So is that true?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Why, I don't know. I think it's like wrapped
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  Speaker 2: up in horse girl stuff. Oh where I was like
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  Speaker 2: growing up and that was like the thing to be
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  Speaker 2: if you were like cool and in the binary you
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  Speaker 2: were like horse girl cool. And I was sitting there
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  Speaker 2: in my tech deck T shirt.
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  Speaker 3: And then what was your animal?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: What was my Oh? I like giraffes. Okay, monkeys, those
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  Speaker 2: were my childhood favorite.
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  Speaker 3: Those are good animals, fun to draw, Yeah, and to
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  Speaker 3: see it certainly more fun to see at the zoo
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  Speaker 3: than a horse.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If you see a horse at the zoo. You're like,
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  Speaker 3: I have been ripped off. I could see this a
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  Speaker 3: meally in other places. I might be able to see
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  Speaker 3: it on the street. Yeah, don't put that in a zoo.
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  Speaker 2: You're so right, and I don't think that they do.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 3: If I do, I'm gonna that zoo will be hearing
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  Speaker 3: from me. You help review online campaign change dot org.
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  Speaker 2: Petition get the horses out of the Zoo No close.
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  Speaker 3: The zoo down. Yes, I mean horses are not my favorite,
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  Speaker 3: but there those and dogs, to me are kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 3: they've just been with human beings for such a long time. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: they're not even you know, they're almost a different category.
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  Speaker 2: It's not really an animal.
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  Speaker 3: They're a friend. They're a companion or a partner team
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  Speaker 3: m Yes, whereas a monkey or a giraffe, they've had
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  Speaker 3: a longer way to go to being. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: can count on them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he can count on those guys.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, especially monkeys. I think actually we have to
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  Speaker 3: be aware that they could eventually turn on us. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: Planet of the Apes, Planet of the Apes or chimp crazy?
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  Speaker 2: Oh I didn't see either of those.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, which one should you? See first.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell me.
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  Speaker 3: I think if you see Chimp Crazy first, the fear
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  Speaker 3: of Planet of the Apes will become even more horror
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  Speaker 3: because you'll say, you'll see, oh, this is what they're
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  Speaker 3: capable of. Oh, okay, the chimp you know, the apes
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  Speaker 3: might rip every person's face off.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, that's what happens in that.
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  Speaker 3: That's part of us. It's just a small part of
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  Speaker 3: Chimp Crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a small part. That's not the whole.
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  Speaker 3: That's a small part of the freaking.
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  Speaker 2: Way, that's what. That's a small part.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's how familiar are you with that show?
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  Speaker 2: People were like talking about it being crazy. I know
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  Speaker 2: about the face ripping off thing. I thought that was
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  Speaker 2: all of it. Though, that's no small.
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  Speaker 3: Lady's like friend or something. I mean, that's the only
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: I think that's kind of well, there might be other
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: faces or people who get hurt. Yeah, but that's probably
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: the most brutal of all of them. Oh man, it's
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: a tough I don't I don't know if it's good
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: that we're watching this thing.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Or probably not, but I got to see it, and
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not just saying that, like how I tell Maria,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch this. Yeah, I know this one.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna you'll get in there, and it's impossible not
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: to finish it. It's it's like no moment of it
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: is normal, okay, And that lady is I won't give anything.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: We don't tell me anything.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: But there's some good things that happen in some horrible
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: things that happen, and just a woman who needed to
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: find another path in life. A lot of people who
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: needed to find another path in life, and unfortunately they
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: found a legal exotic animal.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Shoot, yeah, that's tough.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Do you have a pet?
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I do I have a dog? Oh? He's got one
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: eye and he said mix. So he's a nightmare. It's
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: really it's really bad because she already awful anxious dogs.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: They are so anxious.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: This one has one eye. Somebody wronged him and we
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: don't even know who, what happened to him, We don't
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: know how he lost his eyes. So he's just very
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: like screams at all strangers, stranger, danger, all over the place.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: How old was he when you got him?
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: He was two and that's also when he lost his eyes,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: So he's like spent two years of life with two hours.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: So he knows the difference. He knows, he knows that
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: he is. Something happened, something happened to him, all the
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: poor little things.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: His name is chef.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a good, sweet little And how old does
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: he know?
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: He's? Oh my god. Okay, so we got him in
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: the end of twenty nineteen and he was two. Then okay,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: so math it up? Yeah, off masks you on this
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: podcast and you did you did our haircut math, you
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: did my dog age math.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I'm gunning for the world of style and math, and
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I think I've nailed it so far. In this episode.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: It's working.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Haircutters reach out, Mathematicians reach out. I haven't done a
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: times table in a long time. Times table.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I'm a big math kid, are you actually? I love math.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I'm letting you do the math here today.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: You could have shown math. How were you into like
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the mathletes and all of this.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: We didn't have math.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: That feels more like a TV thing, right.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: But I was in the math robotics academy at my
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: middle school.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we programmed Lego robots.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's incredible.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we made them do little missions and what were
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: they doing? And so okay, so Lego like the company
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: puts on this robotics competition for middle school high schoolers.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Every year has a different theme. One of the years,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I remember, the theme was like Mars Exploration or something,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: and every school or every classroom that's participating gets the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: same like big map that your tiny lego robot has
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: to navigate and do missions on. And so it's just
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: about building and programming the most efficient robot. And then
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you go to competitions and you like run the wow
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: like programs that you build in. So I was doing
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the creative part.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, I was doing.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: The creative part, even though I was good at maths.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I was I was like, okay, let somebody else do
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the programming. But there was a second part where it
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: was like, uh, you also are solving some sort of
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: social issue with.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Robotics through it going on a map.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's just the robot part. Then there's like
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: a because the theme was Mars, I forget like what
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: we were trying to better with robots in space travel.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: So whatever the issue was did not mean anything.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: No, I did not pierce my brain. I did write
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: a sketch where we were like do we were like
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: news anchors on Mars, Like Mars Weather, Mars Sports like
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: just like Mars News. So that's what I did for
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: like a competition, and we won second place because we
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: were so charming, but truly did not give any information
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to be sent. So it was very
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: much a personality, very the robots. Yeah, yeah, I thought
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: we should get first, but I mean we certainly didn't
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: do the assignment. We were just goofing with the sketch.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I wrote, what was the last time, What was the
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: last time you did something robotic?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, middle school, you gave it up. I
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: mean then I joined theater.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Oh god, the arts have ruined you.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I dare I know. I could have cured something.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Take your pick. There's so many things secure.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is actually what my mom said when I
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to be an actress. She's like,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: you're too smart, though.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Do you have siblings?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That's just me?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Oh so they can't even carry on the importance.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Also, I think she was wrong. I'm not that smart
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: because I can work out some numbers. I'm pretty stupid.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: You could have probably been like mid level at a company.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that sounds sad, kind of that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Way, completely unsatisfying life where you thought, oh I could
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: have done I could have been one of those people
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: on TV.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm sitting at a desk doing someone's taxes
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, do you think if somebody like put these
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: pieces in front of you now, you'd be able to
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: program something?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: No? Nothing, definitely not.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I mean women in stem fuck off shoot.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I'm a bad example. Well, it's just because the tech
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: has changed and I haven't looked at it since middle school.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna know about the flow charts and the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: way Lego is programming the r c X and all
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: this stuff.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Now, wow, it's very impressive. That's very impressive. This is
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: the sort of situation where you do end up shipwrecked
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: and you're still the most qualified person on the island,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and you're like, well, I'm using the middle school Lego things.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: There's probably enough things, not enough things on the island
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: to program.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So you can say, nah, I can do puzzles, like
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I could help logic us off the ieor.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Do you find like a tomb hidden behind puzzles?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: If it was Survivor, we'd be okay, do you think.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: You would do Survivor? I can't, I can't, I don't
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: think even banned from CBS.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I sort of. I always say my wife won't let me.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: That's and then she goes, I didn't say anything, but
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I go, no, she wouldn't let me. She wouldn't let me.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: What is it about survivor that scares you?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, I guess the bugs.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: That to me, the bugs, the general like fear of sunburn.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would burn.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I would die. Although I don't want to do it,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: but I looked into it just in case I accidentally
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: did it, I guess. And they do have to supply something.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: They give you.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of that on screen. I
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: guess you go out in the woods and put on
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: your sunscreen before you get on camera. Yeah, otherwise I
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: would be a disaster. I would be a hospital case,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: you know, like they would have to fly me off
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the island. Yeah, they won't.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I also don't want to poop in the ocean.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Do they? Is that really part of it? They don't
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: have toilets for you.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they poop in the ocean.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: That feels irresponsible on their part. Yeah, it feels like
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: we're putting I mean, I guess other animals poop in
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the ocean. Yeah, but we don't need human sewage flowing
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: through the ocean.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Because of there's like a section of the island that's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: like where they poop.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Oh interesting, net it off.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Where I looked at. Yeah, somebody can fact check.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Oh that's terrible. So it's everyone has to kind of
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: walk into a big toilet kind of.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: It sort of like flows away.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: But also flows, I mean as the ocean does. Yeah,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: that's unpleasant, terrible.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: That's all I can think of when they do the
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: reward challenges, or like when they go on reward and
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: they get to eat like Applebee's and then I'm like, shoot,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: now they all have to go poop in the ocean.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I can't enjoy it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Apple Is Applebee still sponsoring Survivor?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like maybe out Back Steakhouse is probably occasionally
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: getting in there. Who else? Those are probably the two remaining.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think tgif TGF Fridays exists.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Anymore, just generally they're gone.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I think did the whole company go under?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I hope not. I had a surprise birthday there once.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, on the LEASTGI Friday still exist, please hell.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I think it does. One second, let me just confirm Okay, I'm.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Going to get confirmation. We need to get confirmation on Fridays.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I need all the places I've had birthdays to still exist.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're they're open.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: They're still open. My apologies to Fridays. Yea. I feel
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: like maybe the ones in the greater LA area are gone.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: So are the chilis. You know you can't get to
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: a Chili's within fifty miles of LA. I'm pretty sure
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: it's hard to get to a Chili's here. I would
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: go to a Chili's if there was one in Silver.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, definitely that's the market. Yeah, everyone in Silver
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Like wants to head to a Chili's.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: The Echo Park chilis. I think that it would actually
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: do Bonker's business. I think the Like people would be like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I can't believe this is ironic, and then they'd say, oh,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Chili's is great.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they would get it on the bottomless chips.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I think all the chilies, even in my hometown are closed.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: What I think they turned the one that was there
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: into like.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: A spirit Halloween.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Spirit Halloween to go. Oh yeah, it's like a furniture
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: store or something. Now, so that's a shame. Where else
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: have you had birthdays.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Let's see Trucky Cheese, which I guess still around.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still I mean, the fact that they were
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: hanging in there continues to be absolutely baffling, especially considering
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: the fact that they got rid of the robots.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Why do they exist? Do they have holograms?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: They probably did projections or something.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Right, then it's just bad pizza and dirty carpeting.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's games.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: There's games.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Games they used. I used to go to Chucky Cheese
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: because they had this thing where if you got straight
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a's that you get free tokens. Oh every report card
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to try.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Of course, how many tokens would they give you?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: That is such a trick to I mean, parents hate that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: They're like, and I know this is gonna end up costing.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Thought about that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: That's predatory, predatory practice. They are going to elementary schools,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: tricking children into dragging their parents to their horrible rest.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Well then I got good grades, that's true, but I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: was gonna anyways, you know.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: You're headed towards robotics me. Yeah, but maybe not. Maybe
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: you were saved by chuck E Cheese.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what got education, cheese that and Pizza Hut
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and they're reading Challenge.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, book it, yes, book book it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Of course I did have book It and my mom.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I guess I take after my mom because she wouldn't
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: buy anything out. You know, we would go and get
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the free little pizza. That's all we got out of
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the restaurant and left.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Took advantage of Pizza Hut. They weren't getting any more
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: of the family money.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, family, the family money, the family fortune.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: You know you can. You can get Costco if you
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: just go in there and then buy a chicken and
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: walk out Rochestere chicken. They like lose money on that,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: banking on you going in and get you of shit Costco.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I shouldn't say publicly that I'm doing this
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: because they'll kick me out of the club, let's hear it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: But you know, I am Costco's worst nightmare. I go
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: in and get the chicken and maybe two other items,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: sometimes just the chicken.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Which is then you're doing it. The chicken.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: It's five dollars. That doesn't make any at this point,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: but for me it makes sense. Wallet sense, yes, make sense.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, keep that family money. That makes sense. Yeah, to
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: save you have to.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: But now I'm probably gonna be barred from Costco. I
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: don't know. No, Okay, let me have the chicken. Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: you know you they want me to. They're they're putting
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: it there.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you pay annual or something.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I fight with all the other ladies in line. We
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: all descend on the chickens. It's like me and seven
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: grandmothers are all.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: There's enough? Are you really just like elbowing grabs out
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: You go there? And there's like I think there are
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: people who really know about the chickens. They like they
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: know what time to be there and like which ones
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: are best, and so if you get there when they're
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: kind of crowding around, yeah, if you're like you'll we'll
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: see a chicken, you're like, why, we'll just take that one.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: But then you're like, oh did I take the wrong chicken?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're really thinking so hard. I guess
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: you're paying Emotionally, you're getting a five dollars. You're sitting
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: there like, why do they know more than me? Why
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: should I know more about this?
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Costco has absolutely devastated me emotionally. Dang, But the mental
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: toll is worth it. I have chicken for a week
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: five bucks.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: We could ask for more. Are you a costco shopper?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I go not so often, but we are members. Our
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: household goes for you know, paper towels, pilet paper, spin drift.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Best dealin oh, I should get spin drift.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: There you only get grapefruit, lime and lemon. But like
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: you're crazy.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no crazy, What are you talking
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: about it?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: It's juicy, too much juice in that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Oh. I love the grapefruit, okay, for so many reasons.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Wow, you should come to our house. We just drink
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the other two and have all the grapefruit.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I'll stop by and skim off the top. I'll take
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: all the grapefruits from you. The grapefruit is the one
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: that you could have with breakfast. I would say if.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: People used to have half a grapefruit with breakfast, be
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: having a half.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: A grapefruit every morning. The work that you would have
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: to put in.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: To do that.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to have a butler to have a
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: half a grapefruit every morning. Who else has the time? Yeah,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: or the energy to be like the cutting all of
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: that nonsense. And I love a gpruit. Yeah, but they
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: interact with my medication, with my well butrin, so I
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: can't have them too often.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: You can't have a grapefruit spin drift, or you can.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I can? I think who cares? Interact? All you want
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: get in there and mix up with it. I can't
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: remember if it makes it worse or like amplifies it
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: or deadens it. Oh no, but you know, the occasional
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: grapefruit can't be that harmful.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I can't believe, like modern medicine is so intense and
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: so like progressive, but it can be taken down by
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: a great grapefruit.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: A mere citrus. What grapefruit is a very strong flavor.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: So I guess there's something happening in there that's doing
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: all kinds of things in your body. I guess. But
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I feel like the spin drift it's only ten percent.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Uh, the grapefruit one is mostly juice?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Is that true?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: No? No, no, okay, it's it's less than ten though. Actually,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: so you're fine.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: They should make extra pulp spin drift.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: No, what are you doing?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, someone's going to hear this and go that's a
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: good idea.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Now, with more poles spin.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Drift now with more pulp. Yeah, there was zero and
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: now there is and now with pulp.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: It feels like something dyed in the can.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Yuck. No, I don't want spin Drift to reach out,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: dunde it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: What's your favorite spin Drift flavor? M If you don't,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: if you're not going to Costco.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: You just get to pick any of mojito no hito.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Oh it's called no hito. Yeah, yeah, it's just call
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: it mohito.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, but there's no uh rum. There's no rum in it,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I like the mohito flavor. Do like that flavor? No heato?
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Is there a raspberry flavor?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Probably? But I'm not into that.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think I like that one too. Okay, there's
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: like a berry ish. I know we'll have to do
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: like spin Drift exchanges.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be nice.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Oh I've got this crappy flavor, come take it. I
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: like the lemon tea flavor.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like that one too.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: That's a good one.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: The half and half.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: It feels like the like single parent flavor. Oh, I
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: don't know. Like if I'm a single dad, I want
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: the tea and lemonade. The kids won't drink it. It's
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: my little spin little thing. The kids don't like it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: When I have the kids for the weekend, I'm drinking
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: my lemon tea spin.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Keeping you happy that weekend. You're like, oh, the kids
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: are here, Thank God, I've got my half and half tea.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Spin Drift absolutely, spinder free trout, We've got an ad free.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: We have a so long about your drink. If we
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: don't each get a palette of our favorite flavor, please, Also,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: we should get to consult on the next flavor. I'm
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: talking to you spin Drift. Oh yeah, I feel like
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: there should be we should be behind the next flavor
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: of spin Drift.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Call us.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I have ideas. I'm not going to say them on
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: air because then I'll just steal my ideas.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Reach out and we'll tell you what we're thinking.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Take us to spin Drift Labs wherever the hell those are.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: You know, I'll say one idea on air so they
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: can have a bad okay, little bubblegum gross. And that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the type of ideas you want receive.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: If you call us, you're going to get the opposite
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: good one perfect ideas. There's something else we have to
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: talk about. Now that we've each received our fifty thousand
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: dollars payment from spin Drift, which we were promised at
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the episode. I have to talk to
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: you about something else, which I don't want to. I
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: don't want to approach this in any way, but unfortunately,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: how could I not. I was excited to have you
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: here today. I was thinking, we'll have a nice conversation,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: nothing could possibly go wrong, and then we'll move on
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: with our days. I'll get my haircut and be on
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Cloud nine. It's Cloud nine. It's just for general happiness,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: right when you get a good haircut. Little surprise the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: podcast is called I said no gifts, and you came
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: walking in holding what I would describe as something that
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: looks like a gift. Yeah, it's as neatly wrapped. Oh,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: actually pretty heavy.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I'm lifting it for the first time on the episode
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: in kind of a long rectangle gift. Yes, is this
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: for me?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I I'm so sorry. I thought you were being coy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I said no gifts, and I said, oh, come on,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: my mom raised me better than that, right, I can't
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: throw up to a new place I've never been. You know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a housewarming. This is your house,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you live here.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: This is my home you live. It's leaving bag in
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: the corner.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I see it. I'm looking at it smells terrible. No, no,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: you're okay. And so yeah, unfortunately I did bring a gift.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I allow that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: We'll show I opening hair on the podcast.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Ye please, all right.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: It's wrapped in the La Times newspaper, which I support.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I support wrapping in the La Times. Politically, the La
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Times is in a difficult place.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Their food section is good. I follow their food editor.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I checked that on that.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I can't remember her name, but she's always posting good things. Uh.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: And you got the sports section. I should probably check
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: in with my boys.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: You check them out like sports, not at all.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: But it's all sports.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Great, it's and entertainment, entertainment.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Uh okay, so open it right now? Yeah, okay. We
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: rarely get to rip a newspaper.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Look at that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Oh queer.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: For you.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: There you go, that's me. Check that out, okay, ripping Chris.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Oh and I just yelled the word queer. If someone's
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: not watching the episode.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Just driving in their cars, yell queer. It's part of
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: the wrapping paper.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Everyone, it's part of the newspaper. It's the queer lens,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: a history of photography and add for that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: It's oh my god, what's happening? What do you think
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: it is? You probably still don't know, or do you?
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, so so far, it's a little briefcase, silish briefcase
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: that almost looks like it's from the set of a
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Wes Anderson film or something. It's navy blue with red trim. Yes, gorgeous.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Check that out. And we're opening careful with the insides.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, gonna be very it's it full of marbles maybe
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: kind of Oh huh, I just like that opening.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds it's a good sound.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Hopefully the listener likes that. Oh, it's almost like a
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: bubbly Okay, we're opening. Opening is a gorgeous is a Backgammon.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Kit to travel Backgammon set set?
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Just the kit? This is beautiful. Wow. Have I've never
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: played Backgammon? And even like saying I was hoping hopefully
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: this is what it is? It is, I was correct.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I'm a gamer gamer at heart. Let's see. Let me
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: spread this. I'll close my laptop for a minute.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Play that use. I actually haven't seen the inside.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Oh it's pretty good, so beautiful.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I'm glad. It's from the seventies, so it's actually just
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: like a vintage backmage.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Where did this come from?
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I found it on I think on Ittsy because there's
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: so many like new factory made backgam in sets. But
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: part of I think the specialness of a backgammon board
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: is that it is of old times. It's such an
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: old game that I wanted to bring you like a
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: cool old set.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: This is Do you know how to play backgammon? Yes?
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So backgammon is like kind of huge. I'm Persian and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we invented this game. I certainly
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: do not check me how we invented it any ron.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: It came from us ancient nobody look into it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Nobody check that that could be correct. It's part of
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the culture though, Like my parents play, my grandparents play.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: When like you go to a Persian party, sort of
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: toward the end of the night, everyone's sitting around drinking
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: black tea and just kind of like playing some backgammon.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: My grandpa taught me how to play and just brings
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: me peace and reminds me of my family, and I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: wanted to share that with that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: It's so sweet. Where where does the word backgammon come from.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Don't ask me questions like this come on.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: At least help help educate. This is a utility podcast. Ultimately,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: when people learn this is this is the one show
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: people come to to learn. So if we can find
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: out where the words backgammon.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Is from, yeah, and we just want to know that,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and don't tell me who made this game.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: And avoid any other fact about the game. It's I
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: wonder what, like the first games of backgammon even looked
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: like yeah, because this is obviously an evolved version. Although
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I love the idea of this, like this is an
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: ancient Persian design. Yeah, brief case seventies coloring, it's.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: From the Middle English forms of game and back, so
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: it's back and like gommon basically gommona game.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't learn anything from that. I don't know.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: That's a bad name for a game that tells you
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: nothing about Yeah, it sounds good, but it's like, well,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: what game are we playing here? Yeah?
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Let me try to think of it has anything to
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: do with the gameplay, back, end game, no.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Bactly game? So how do you play this? Let's do
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: a quick tutorial.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is such a visual look at it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I'll commentate on you. Let's let's you put these dice.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: There are two dice, three.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: There's three dice. Well, I don't start in my family.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I don't use the third one. That's just sort of
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: like if you want to double your wins.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Or you can chew on it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can chew on it. That's this is your board.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: You do you chew on that if you like.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: It has multipliers of two.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I guess you can multiply. If you're like certain you're
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: going to win, you can roll the multiplier. Okay, because
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: when you play back game and you play like a
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: best of five for a best of three, if you
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: want a shorter game. Uh, but yeah, you set up
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: the board in a specific way. You can google the picture.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to see five go three.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Go here?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Right and then so basically your side you have a
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: home and on my side, I have a home, and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: we're just trying to get all of our colored pieces
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: all the way into our home and then remove them
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: all and put them back into the safe.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Looks.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: See, I don't even know what these words the words
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: for the game are.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: So it's a little checkersy kind of.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit like sorry too, because you're
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: trying to get pieces back into your home.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I think i've ever played Sorry.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, well sorry, I brought it up par cheesy then never.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I've certainly never played.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Party just sorry, but a different name, unbranded? Yeah, well
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: par cheesy? Branded?
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Is parteesy? A brand name?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Par cheesy? Seems to me like the real name of Sorry. Then,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: like Milton Bradley Hopkins and picked it out. Let's put
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: some branding on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, make people apologize
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: to each other.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, I like this game. It's pretty peaceful. It's like
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: a logic counting game. It like speaks to my math
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: brain and my grandpa. Okay, so you make bets? Okay, damn.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of fun that way. Like anytime I
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: played with my mom, We're like, okay, so what are
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: we betting on?
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: And how much are you betting?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Usually just like a round of coffee or who buys
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: ice cream? Now, oh that's a good bets, like Cudi stack.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's the sort of thing I could get into
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: where I'm not stressing out about losing money.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, But when I was like I think I was
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: like nine, and I was playing with my grandpa who's
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: like a master. And I was like so confident. I said,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I bet you twenty dollars, which I had from my allowance,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: right that I'll beat you. And this man was like, okay,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: he fully beat me. He took my twenty oh, and
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: he would yeah, well, And I respect the hell out
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of this because he was like, you learn now, learn now,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: you learned.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I had an opposite thing that happened to me as
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: a kid is our parents were trying to teach us
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: that you shouldn't gamble. And I think we like played
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: a game of poker or whatever and something much easier
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: for children, and I won big and not my parents
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: thinking oh, they'll all lose and they'll lose their money,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: and they refuse to give me the money. So I
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: guess that is also a game about gambling. You know,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: the casino people, the mobsters charge about the money. You're
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: not going to give you all the money.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Hey, if you actually want to know that, you'd get
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: the money.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: But when you start winning too much, then Robert de
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Niro shows off and curbs you or whatever.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: So you've got to be careful with gambling. Yeah, So
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: but to start, you just kind of I want to.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can use those. We just use our hands
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: in my family. But they give you a little roller.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: There is more hygienic. You don't have to wash your
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: hands after totally listen to that.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: You roll it.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I can just do that for twenty minutes for the listener.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: That's truly quiet.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: And so you do this, and then I roll them
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: into my thing.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: You roll them into any spot. You can roll them
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: anywhere wherever you like, as long as it's on the board,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: off or you reroll. So you got a five and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: a two, so you can either move one piece seven
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: or one piece five and one piece two.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: So and listener, I know you're so engaged with this,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: but I do want to do this, and you have
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: that patience. This is what a podcast is. It's listening
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: to a man learn how to play a complicated How.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Dare I do this? I should have foreseen that you
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: were just going to be like, now, how do you
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: play this game?
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: No? I want to just so you say I can roll,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I can move two or five.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, but we haven't set up the board, so you
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: can't do anything.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, so how do you set up the Are you serious?
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I just want to see how it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'll do it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Really, the listener has to be patient. This is how
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: the gate I mean, last episode they listened to me
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: open like maybe one or two episodes ago, open like
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: nineteen layers of a gift. So I think that two minutes.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Of set it up.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: She's taking out the blue pieces, the kind of uh
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: they're probably the size of like a thin mint, and
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: they do look like something I would want to know
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: on their dark I don't want to eat all game
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: that has hard plastic like this makes me hungry. It
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: looks like a satisfying snap.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's not that's up here.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she's put the blue ones in on different things,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: but she left one blue one in the little holder.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's an extra one. That's it's just
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: an extra piece.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: So I'm spoiled.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: It's just for you.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: You can on that one deep in backgammon coins? Is
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: that what they're called.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I actually don't know what the pieces are called. Look
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: at you asking me all this stuff.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I just play with my grandpa. Reminds you
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: of my family, and I love you, Ron.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: And now it's been set up, and.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is my home. This is your home.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: So you're you're you are white, I'm white, and I'm blue, okay,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and so you would be trying to take your white
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: pieces and put them all in here, all right.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: But this is my home. Oh and I'm on this,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: So you move.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Like if you wanted to. Yeah, you're going this way
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and I'm going this way into my home.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Okay. So now considering my two and five right now,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I do want to at least move one piece. Where
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: what can I do?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: So a good move for five. Here's the other thing.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: You never want to leave one of your little puck
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: pieces alone because then if I roll something, I could
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: crush you and then you're killed.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Ultimately, it's a game about community, ultimately, community and home.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Hey, for me, that's what it is. But we're really
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: getting that's kind of what you want to know about.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Someone's hairs are in this vintage board.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: That's probably a dead person.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: This could be a haunted Uh.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You'd be so lucky to be haunted by someone backgammon.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It actually would be a nice experience. The ghost makes
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: you tea every day.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just hear diet there in the background and
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: the satisfying little thing rolling around.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you smoke cucka with a ghost.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Oh that sounds great, not bad. Okay, So now there's
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: a piece in the middle of the board.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm showing you. If you got killed, this
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: is where there's a little bit of violence, and then
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: to get this piece back in play, you would roll
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and then you have to sit it back in your home.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: So like if you roll the two, you could sit
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: it in the two spot.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: So that's why I wouldn't want to take a two.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Right now, That's why you wouldn't want to leave them
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: by themselves.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I want to. I would want to take a five.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: You could do five. Five is good because it friends
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: with other friends, and then you could actually take the
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: two play the same thing too.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: That far already you're.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: A little bit safe. Yeah you got one guy back home.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I love this. I feel like I can really get
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: to This is a game that I It's in the
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: same category as badminton, sure, where it's pleasant listening, no
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: one gets hurt. Gay, that is what I'm saying. This
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: feels a gay friendly. Oh yeah, it's stylish, it's got
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: everything you need. And I could play this while eating
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: a grapefruit and you do from my butler.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: You just yes, your butler comes over. You snack, yes,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: eat sweets, you drink tea. There's actually a Silver Lake
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: backgam and club of it. I've been to. I've been twice.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I'm banned and actually, let's let's not talk about it.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: They have very inconsistent events. You just kind of like
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: have to check the Instagram to see, uh, right, when
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: they're when they're playing. But it's really nice. It's just
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people playing back agad.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I need to join a club. I should I should
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: join a club. Okay, are you part of any clubs? No?
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: No, No, I think we have enough community where we
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: don't need to like join clubs.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Right, there's just so much within comedy that we're all
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: just trapped with each other. None. No, maybe there's no
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: out of this community.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Essentially, what like, it's a cult, that's what you're saying.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Basically a very unhealthy cult.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, but all my friends are in this club.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Wait, how often that's been.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Said about colts generally?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: How could it possibly be a cult? I love all
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: of these people.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Well, no one's harming me.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: They're all so nice to me.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Look I write you a game.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: They want to be around me all the time. Yeah,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: they won't let me go. Oh these people care about me.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, shoot, I can't think about that too hard.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Not thanks, Okay, Well, I'm excited to actually learn how
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: to play this.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could teach you more in depth.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I just sort of like, this is not the place
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: for me to.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Give you the yeah, to be like mildly conscious of
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: a listener falling asleep at the wheel. They're clear, I
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: welcome up now they're over correcting the cars rolling across
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: the freeway, whipple ash event. Okay, I'm very excited about this.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Are there any other games like this you play like this?
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm not too into board games, but
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: if anyone's got a board game night going on, I'm
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: happy to join. I'm very competitive, so it's kind of
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: bad you kind of don't want me there if you're
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: just trying. I can okay, but I'm like pretty harmless,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and uh, when I get angry, people usually laugh at me,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: so it's kind of fun. Actually scared of me. I'm
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: just started sitting there going like the roses, that's so
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: non threatening.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: That's the person you want someone who's competitive but not
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: an asshole.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sort of like a jigglypuff when when she
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: gets mad when everyone falls asleep at her singing that's
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: intended to make people fall asleep, and then she's.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Like, poor character, that poor character has been cursed. All
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: she can do is kind of is puff she. I
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: would say they they probably ultimately we've talked about Kirby
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: on this podcast before and kind of I think we decided.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: They they them for Kirby.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: But uh, Yeahglypuff I think is a she? They yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: And her life is a living hell.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Poor.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: All she wants to do is be a star. It's
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: very Greek, very Greek tragedy, like yeah, like the gods
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: say you can, you'll be able to sing, but it'll
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: put everyone to sleep.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they'll never know, they'll never know how good you.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Are, the poor little thing. And she's gorgeous she is,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: but they are, they are. Yes, she's such a fun
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: character and Smash Brothers almost worthless, but she gets to
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: float around and put everyone to sleep or what have you?
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: These pink Nintendo characters everybody loves someone.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I know, they're the best ones.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: They look like Marshmallows. Yeah, and Kirby's a little more powerful.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I will say.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I play Kirby for Super Smash.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Right, and I make everyone mad because I just do
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: the slam.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: That's the only move I do. We're the same, I'm
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: just slamming from this guy, right.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyone that's actually good at the game is mad
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: at me. They're saying you're cheating, and I'm saying, well,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: then they shouldn't have put the move in.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not cheating.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: I'm using the power of the character.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I know how to play the game
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: and you're being fancy.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: You're vindicated.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: It's a game of brute force, and ultimately Kirby can
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: become an anvil or a rock a rock. They should
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: do a heavy backgammon piece, that'll be.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: That's sure, they should. Why not?
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: They should be a little more creative.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Things they could do, for like a piano, grand piano.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, grand piano is a great idea.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think heavy backgam in board.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Would require a lot of explaining. There would have to
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: be like a notification that popped up on the screen.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: That's a bad idea for you, Nintendo. But if you
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: want good ones again.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: We can come by. We can come by after our
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: stopped spin Drift. It'll be a busy day for us
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: pitching idea.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're happy to.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: We're ultimately drinkers and gamers, and so these companies reach out. Please.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Is there any I feel like Smash Brothers got all
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: the characters they need. I'm wondering if there's any other
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: character I would like them to put in the game.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: It'd be fun if you could put yourself sort of
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: in the game.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I don't like when people put that, like the me character.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Character an Ai scam copy of Just You Bridgery.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: In the game fully motion captured. It might be be
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: on board for that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like power you grow hair and then it
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: chokes the other character long wavy locks.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Have you ever played the game Bayonetta.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: There's a video game called Bayonetta where the woman's like
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: a witch kind of looks like Sarah Palin and her
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: hair like strangles people and it's incredible, And she's a
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: character in Smash Brothers.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so I believe somebody already.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Has are they're ahead of us of those stuff things?
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Get back to me. Yeah, I wonder what my Smash
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Brothers has. Those gloves, you know, the white gloves, and
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: this podcast has a very glove forward theme. I do
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: a lot, or I used to do a lot more
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: of these, but I would do demos with the gifts
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: and I would be wearing a pair of opera gloves
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: now pepper.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Gloves for my viage seventies.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: I think that they're probably going to come into play.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: I will have to do a video with these. They
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: show up at the live shows more often, which I
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: think is becoming continually confusing for listeners who hadn't seen
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: those videos, and they're like, why is he wearing these
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: filthy opera gloves?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: That makes sense, I'd be confused.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: But then you say, well, look, I'll just go along
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: with it because I'm a good sport. I'm a good
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: audience member.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Of course, and we trust you.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Everyone trusts me inherently for some reason. After listening to
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: this show, Well, is there anything left you you'd like
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: to say about Backgaming?
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I've said it all. It's
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: just pretty special. I grew up with this game, and
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: it took a weird time with Iran right now, So
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I was really thinking about my fan.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: All the wonderful things that Iran has done.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's actually got like a cool, extremely beautiful, artistic culture,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: and I was reflecting on all that, and I wanted
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: to bring you back.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I think that's so lovely. I think that's really wonderful.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Not to mention all of the wonderful food that's coming
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: out of it.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, come.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: On, there's just so much people need to be talking.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I think more about the good things coming out of Iran.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do a lot of sweet savory in the food, oh,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: which I love. I sneak in something sweet in kind
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: of every day sweet delicious. Yeah.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Well, I think we should now play another game, okay,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: game of my own design. We're gonna play a game
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: called Gift mess sure, okay, and maybe we should. I'm
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: gonna just kind of cough. I usually ask for the
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: guests to pick a number, but I want you to
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: roll a number. Why not?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I have rolled a three?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Three? Okay. I hope that nice satisfying dice got roll
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: got on mic guys from today. I know this is
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: maybe our best episode. Those are the coins or the
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: backgammon cookies following on each other. Can I just bite one.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Go for it now. That sound was good, but I
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: bet not great in your mouth right?
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Terrible? Okay, at least my teeth didn't dissolve, would crumb? Okay?
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: You roll a three? Yep? Okay. I have to do
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: some like calculating to get our game pieces, so math
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: for you. I mean, that's what the show is that today,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Ridgerd the math whiz reach out for me to calculate
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: anything right now, you can do some promotion, recommendation, whatever
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: you want to do with the mikeel be right back.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, promotion, I guess I'll self promo me if
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: you want to follow me at child Clown on Instagram.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: That's just kind of a name I chose years ago
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm freaking sticking to it, you know, yeah, if
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: you just follow me all I'm doing shows around La
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: all the time, improv sketch and oh. We do this
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: show called Mama Mia but different. It's pretty good. We
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: do a different jukebox musical with eight abba songs. The
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: story is different every time though, So that's a really
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: fun show to check out if you want. We've done
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: one where it's taken place in the nick you It
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: was formula babies verus breastfeeding babies. We'd done one in
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: like old timey renaissance town about a love triangle with
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: a baker and two ladies from the woods. Anyway, it
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: gets weird. So that's a good show. Just follow me.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: You can see shows like that. That's my promo.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Excellent promo. Thank you Mama and Mia, but different. It
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: seems so wild every single time, and it sure is.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: And it's our and Patrick McDonald one of the busiest
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: man's in the city, he demands, one of the busiest men.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: The busiest man's I ever met. He does it all.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Love that guy.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: This is how we play gift Master. I'm going to
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: name three things, three items gifts that you can give away.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I'm name three celebrities and you can tell me which
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: celebrity you would give which gift and why.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Oh shoot, okay, oh shoot, oh shoot. I'm just like
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I hope I know these celebrities.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: We'll all the celebrities hopefully, Okay, we'll see Okay. The
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: gifts you'll be giving today are number one, a trip
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: to the hospital, Number two of Vegas residency, and number
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: three inescapable debt. Now, the celebrities you'll be giving them too.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Are number one Tim Allen rough Rough I don't know
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: how to make the actual noise he makes, but who cares.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Number two is Et the Extra Terrestrial love Et. That's
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: some pitch from our producer on.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: At least that's perfect.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: And number three is Javier Bardam Oh okay, handsome as ever.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great guy. Lovely Bond villain.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very scary Bond villain. He's willing to look
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: scary despite being very good looking.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: You think about No Country for Old Men, one of
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: the weirdest looking people in movies. Yeah, then you see
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: him outside of it and you think, wow, what a transform.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: That's a transformation.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: You put a bad haircut on a good looking man,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: it'll ruin.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: That's kind of it.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I've named everything.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I guess, Okay, great, Shoot, this is tough because I'm
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: trying to Like, I had an instinct to give somebody
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: a certain gift, and then I was like, well that
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: falls poorly on my The other guys, right, I really
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: figure this out.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: It's amaze.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I guess if I give Tim Allen inescapable debt, I
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: feel like he can outrun that.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'm going to say, and don't let
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: this sway you. That's just going to give him more
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: of a reason to work, Yeah, and make more.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: To really look at him a lot longer.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Do you see some of these ultra rich celebrities that
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: don't stop working, You think they must have gambling debt? Sure,
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: so that could be the situation where we would never
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: got it. Right.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Here's where I'm struggling because Et is my favorite in
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: those three, right, and I want to give Et kind
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: of the best one. But so I think Et is
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: getting a residency in Vegas, okay, And and we're putting
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Et on a visa, so the government can't can't.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't matter rules the laws.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: I could to protect Et, because if I send Et
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: to the hospital, the government's going to come for him.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: If I send Et to inescapable debt, the government's going
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: to chase him even more than they already chasing him,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: you know. And then if you give him a residency,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I hope he's stayed protected. I just want Et to
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: be okay, And my parents live in Vegas. They can
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: go check out show. I can stay with them and
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: go watch ET's show.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: What do you think et would do live on drag totally. Yeah,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: he's already done dress the sinking. Such danger in today's
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: political environment. Or a guy, God, he's an alien. He's
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: doing drag. The only protection is giving him Vegas connections.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: That's the only thing that will protect you from Donald
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Trump is somehow being attached to gambling.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm putting eat there in Vegas.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: It's a safe spot.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh mm hmm. I'm giving Javier Bardem the debt
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: because if he keeps working, I'm happy about it. Love
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: to see him keep working.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: That would be fantastic.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: It'd be lovely.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Get this guy on a career treadmill, sure, put.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Him on Broadway, put him on a TV show.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: I'll watch a multicam somebody else gam he's.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: The scariest guy with a big heart in something. It's
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: just a guy from no country for old man. It
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: just like works at a convenience store. He's the same guy,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: but it's a multicamp.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Now he's the new stepdad in the family. They're like,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: there's something wrong with Dad's not gonna be the name
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: of the new Chuck Lori show. There's something wrong with Dad.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: It would be Chuck lory too that you would put
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: the put Javier Bardem in there. Dad has a history, Yes,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: and then Tim headed to the hospital. Sorry, buddy.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: The only thing I will say about a trip to
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: the hospital, I do think ET a trip to the
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: hospital more as a service animal.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Mmm. So you think it is visiting the hosp.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: He's visiting the hospital visiting sick children. I think that
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: would be very It's kind of nice thinking selfies with
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: sick kids.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: But if you put him in the hospital, that's like
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: where they're gonna cut him open to see what alien
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: is case.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: That's kind of part of ET where he goes through
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: the scary tunnel. Yeah, you don't want that Elliott screaming.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: That was very hard for me to watch as a child.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: But maybe ET needs that exposure to a good hospital setting.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: So you're trying to pitch me send an ET to
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: the hospital.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: I think ET is at home in the hospital or
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: on stage in Vegas.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I'm settled in Vegas, in Vegas.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: ET phone hospital. Now I don't know. Well, I think
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: you played very well. Thank you, very thoughtful, very thoughtful. Okay,
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: now we on Alyse has a we're playing. We also
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: play a game called gift or a curse. We're doing
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the mini to go version with Honalise today, So Honale
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: is gonna name something and we're each going to say
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: if it's a gift or a curse and why. Then
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Analise will tell us if we're a right or wrong
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: because they have the correct answer. Answer, there's a right answer. Okay, Honalise,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: what are we doing today?
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: Gift or a curse?
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Group discounts, group discounts? Do you want to go or
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: do you want me to go?
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Uh? You go ahead?
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Okay. I think group discounts. Group discounts are a curse,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: an absolute curse. I don't like any discount that has
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: a qualification. I want to be able to show up
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: without my family, without my friends. Maybe I'm a drifter.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: We're not thinking about drifters when we're talking about group discounts.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: They come in from out of town, they murder someone,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: they want to go to an escape room. Sure the
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: group discount is not offered to them.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: They murdered someone, they've murdered.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Someone, They want to have some fun, and they're like, well,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I don't have anybody in this town. I don't know anybody,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: and now I don't get the discount. You have to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: ultimately any discount. Shoot, if you're going to give a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: percentage off, you should be able to give it to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: a family of fifteen or someone who just pulled up
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: in a rickety old car covered in blood.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Do you want equality for drifters drifters?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, ultimately for drifters. Okay, I think it's a curse.
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  Speaker 2: I was also going to say curse, but not for
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  Speaker 2: your reason where you want murderers to have a nice
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  Speaker 2: time at the escape room. I sort of was thinking
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: that it's it's a nice idea, but organizing a group
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: to go do something sucks. And then you have the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: person one or two people dropping out the day of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: and you had exactly the right number, and now you're like,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: now we don't put the discountbard And then you have
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: to hang out in a large, large group. I don't
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: love that, right, I love smaller group hangs.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Oh me too.
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  Speaker 2: So I'd pay any money to not have the emotional
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  Speaker 2: labor of putting together a group. Are hanging out in
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: a large large group setting just for a discount.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I agree with you. Let's see, Honalise, what
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  Speaker 3: is the answer.
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  Speaker 4: You both win the games. It's a curse. It's a
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: curse for all of the reasons mentioned above. It is
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: a nightmare trying to organize people. And also what, I'm single,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: so I don't get a discount. There's already enough things
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: that are going against me in this world.
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  Speaker 3: Like you're a drifter to.
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  Speaker 2: Think about the murder thing.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know where Honaly is from. They refuse to
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: give any information to us. We've never seen an ID
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: or home address. All right, cool, so we don't know. Uh,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: we're just always on edge around onlyse no.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: I mean I do frequent escape rooms.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: So just saying, do not give this person a reason
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: to kill. Well, we won. We all won today. We did.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: And now this is the final segment of the podcast.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: It's called I Said No Emails. People are writing into
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com desperate for answers.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: They're also sending in voice notes, Onaliz, will you please
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: drag us through the voice notes qualifications so people know
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: how to do this.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: If you'd like to send us a voice note, please
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: make sure that you record it in a quiet space,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: have it be under sixty seconds, and you send it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: to I Said No Gifts at.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Gmail dot com. Make it a question. Make it a question, yes, beautiful. Ok,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: we're gonna read one today despite all of this talk
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: about voice notes. Cool. I'll help me answer you a question.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is Hello Bridger. A question for you and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: your guest. I am a high school teacher and I'm
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: having a hard time dealing with students using AI for
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: their writing assignments. I can pick it out easily on
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: my own, as any good English teacher can, or with
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: AI detection tools if needed, but I'd like some advice
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: for the next time I find let's say, text evidence
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: in the form of a quote that isn't even in
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: our class novel parentheses. That's called an AI hallucination. I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: know what an AI hallucination is. Sure, don't talk down
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: to me. How should I let the student know that
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I have caught them played rising so that they understand
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: that I know this partly because they're riding is garbage,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: But without me saying that they're riding is garbage. Any
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: advice would be helpful doing the Lord's work. And that's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: from mad Vintage. That's a I hope that's the teacher's name,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: mister or missus or ms or what have you mad
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: vintage cool name, cool, very cool name. Yeah, you pull
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: up on a motorcycle, kid, sir, not gonna be doing
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: any AI anymore.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's our advice. Actually, I think buy a motorcycle.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Become the ultimate badass. That's right, carry some sort of
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: sword or knife on your hip. Feel like a threat to.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: The student and they will respect.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, are you in a leather vest? That could be
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: the problem already. If you're not wearing a leather vest every.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Day, just kind of buy a leather vest, then you're good.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: The students feel like they can run over you with
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: their AI tools.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not if you're in a leather vest.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: No way. They want to be cool. They want to
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: feel like somebody else at the bar.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, teach with sunglasses on. There you go.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: I think that that's a perfectly fine idea. I mean
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: there's also you know, I feel like this teacher is
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: blaming the AI here instead of blaming themselves. Maybe they're
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: a horrible teacher, and so the student doesn't know how
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: to write, So now they're turning to a robot computer
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: to spew out some slop and learning nothing. And the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: education system is in jeopardy because of mad vintage.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I would say, maybe they could be a good teacher,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: and it's just that just just to play that as
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: advocating you could be a great teacher. And then still
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: kids would be like, Oh, it takes effort to do
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: good writing. I actually don't want to put in effort today.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I want to go to the mall. What do you
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: kids do?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: I want to skateboard at the mall.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I skate at the mall. So I'm gonna let the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: robot do the effort. I'm just hoping they're return retaining
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: information in class. Like right, I didn't love doing essays,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: but I loved learning in class. Right, I can measure that.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: They're very different things. They are. Yeah, some I enjoyed
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: writing an essay, but essentially can't pay attention to anything.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: I've been diagnosed by listeners as having ADHD. Then jury
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: still out.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: On that listeners.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: The listeners are reaching out.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Don't reach out to me if you're trying to diagnose
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: me with anything. Let me just put that out there
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: I will say, I've been watching Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Apparently the viewers of the show reached out last season
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: to one of the one of the cast mates and said,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: it looks like you've got an alloyed enlarged thyroid. Check
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: it out. She had an enlarged thyroil.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: And that's okay, and let my doctor do that. Okay.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want to come and.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Swing to reach out to a stranger and like something's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: enlarged on your body.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't tell me nothing. I know I have bad pasture.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Let me alone.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: But chiropractors just won't leave you alone.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Now, don't you dare get in there?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: How did we get here? Oh? Yeah, essays versus learning
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: in class, I do think that the teacher should just
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: be as brutal as possible.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, if you notice it, you don't have
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: to be gentle about it. You'd be like, guys, I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: know you're using AI for this.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Right, you're bad writers?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be good writers. Maybe that's a spin
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: you could give it. It's like, I know you're better
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: writers than what you're turning in because you're turning in AI.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: To me, right, this is a new dangerous minds. Do
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: you remember that movie with Michelle Feiffer, Oh yes, maybe
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: we do an AI version of that where a toughest
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: nails teacher shows up to tell the students don't use
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: AI yeah, you know, in a leather vest, probably to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: be like I've got street cred. I don't use a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: computer to write my essays. I use the word processor,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: but I don't use I don't go any further than that.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: I use the spell check, but I don't go any
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: further than that.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Or you could assign handwritten essays.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: They must be doing that now, right.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which you could still have the effort, the effort
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: to write it all out. It's sort of just like
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: a dunk on the kid, you know. It's like, if
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: you're to do that, go ahead and do that. It
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: kind of is a little bit easier to just put
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: your thoughts down. If you make the essay shorter too,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like it incentivizes someone to actually use their brain, right,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Like I can get through three pages handwritten.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: I can write a four sentence essay that too. Yeah,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: why not?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe we're just building confidence. You assign a one paragraph
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: thing and build from there sure that they are writing it,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: because like one paragraph, I could do that and still
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: go skate at them all. I could write a paragraph
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: and then you just and then they prove to themselves
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: that it's more fun and easy to write.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: It It's like training a dog. Yeah, got a clicker,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: spray them in the face. Hey, what was I going
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: to say? I think that. I guess that's all of
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: my thoughts on AI and I want a nightmare to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: be a teacher.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Nowson was always a thing. We'd have to run our
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: essays through this program that would like check if we
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: copied either another student's essay in the database or like
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: an academic paper.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, I what.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Was it called?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Recognized this during college? I think this was happening.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it had a name.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: But I guess that. I guess they have to have
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: something even more complicated now, Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I heard AI uses dashes a lot, and like humans
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: don't oh interesting like the dash when.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: I write dash A good m dash. Yeah, but I
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: almost use those more, you know, like corny ways, like
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: I think it looks funny sometimes.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, like texting. I've seen it used. Interesting, But if
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I was writing a paper right from like.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: A fourteen year old's like yeah, dash is no, you
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: didn't do that. You would have used a period or
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: a comma incorrectly. Yes, wow, mad Vintage, we've saved your
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: career you're welcome, and so many students' minds. Yeah, so
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: many students' minds. Okay, well, I've got my backgammon set kit,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: set kit. Yeah, briefcase, my backgammon briefcase, and I can't
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: wait to learn to play. I'm this is such a
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: nice thing. Yeah, what a gift. You know, occasionally there's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: a gift on here. I'm like, wow, now that I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: get to have that.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I unfortunately prefer to be Ernest there.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you for being here. That's such a nice time.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me listener. The podcast
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: is over. We'll do some clicking, some last minute Ooh
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: doesn't that sound nice? We'll send you off. I love you, goodbye.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: and I said, No Gifts, that's where you're going to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: don't you want to see the gifts.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Here. I thought, I made myself perfectly clear. But you're,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: And I said, no, guess, you're a presences presents enough
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how do you
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: dare to surbey me