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  Speaker 1: Let's get a sound check. Good morning, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, Good morning, good sometime, good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Behold inducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
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  Speaker 3: high school basketball stand what in the hell.
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  Speaker 1: Don't jumped any conclusions. Not a god. You've got to
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  Speaker 1: lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 3: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to
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  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Welcome in to the radio program. It
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  Speaker 1: is Chucking Back in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three kJ RFM. Breakdown you with us here on
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  Speaker 1: this lovely Thursday in the Pacific Northwest. My name is
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Powell. Bucky Jacobson. The Bucky Jacobson is here, so
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  Speaker 1: is Ashley Ryan. As we get things started here, over
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  Speaker 1: the course of the next four hours, we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: a lot of sports, but primarily football, as the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: and the Rams get ready to do battle on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Here we sit on Thursday, Softy very relieved to know
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  Speaker 1: that he only has to wake up and I'm assuming
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  Speaker 1: he's already up three more times before his football team's
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  Speaker 1: going to play for the Super Bowl. Do him a
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  Speaker 1: lot of good over there.
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  Speaker 5: I imagine he does seem a lot like my daughter
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  Speaker 5: who's four.
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  Speaker 1: He's a lot like her. Yeah, yeah, in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ways of a pill wears a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Of dresses zomies and runs around the house like a
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  Speaker 6: crazy kid.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, he does that far more than Grace does,
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  Speaker 5: but yeah, similar. But they are also alike in the
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  Speaker 5: fact that anything that she's excited about she counts down
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  Speaker 5: with how many sleeps she has left anything?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So when are we going on our daddy
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  Speaker 1: daughter day on Saturday? Oh, she looks encountered.
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  Speaker 5: That's two more sleeps, two more sleeps, yep, yep, two
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  Speaker 5: more sleeps.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. So yeah, I think heard softiere.
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  Speaker 6: Like, I would like to say that.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's easier to keep track of things if
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  Speaker 7: you if you do it that way by sleeps, because
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  Speaker 7: it's I always wonder like am I supposed to count
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  Speaker 7: the day I'm in right now? Or am I supposed
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  Speaker 7: to start tomorrow? Like is it four days away? Or
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  Speaker 7: is it three days away? It's sleep Yeah, if I think,
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  Speaker 7: but if I think of it and sleeps, it's way
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  Speaker 7: easier for me to figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe Grace has figured out the key to
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  Speaker 1: counting on something. Maybe half the population has been confused
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  Speaker 1: for many years. Yeah, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we grow up and some of
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  Speaker 5: how we learn how many sleeps it is until something
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  Speaker 5: that we're excited about, And then you'll learn about the
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  Speaker 5: calendar and the days and dates and all that, and
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  Speaker 5: then you're like, you just totally screwed up the whole things.
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  Speaker 5: Just how many sleeps until you get to where you
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  Speaker 5: want to be?
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  Speaker 1: It sleeps. I mean we are three days away from
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  Speaker 1: seahawks and rams. Yeah, three sleeps away from seahawks and rams.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's grace math and it makes uh.
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  Speaker 7: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just the way it's been.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'll go towards it seems like it probably makes
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  Speaker 5: sense because Grace does it. If you said that that's
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  Speaker 5: how soft he does it, I'd be like, oh, well
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  Speaker 5: we should maybe question that just a smidge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would probably limit the number of things
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  Speaker 1: that my young daughter has in common with soft. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to try. It's cute that there are few
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  Speaker 1: things they have in common, but I think you need
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  Speaker 1: to draw there need to be a lot more in
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  Speaker 1: the column that they don't.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, there will be, trust you me. So the soft one,
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  Speaker 5: my daughter will not be two peas in a pod.
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  Speaker 5: That'd be hilarious, just like him.
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  Speaker 6: We have her beat him next Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can try that. She needs a meet him first.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's actually funny if she hasn't. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: just dress her up like him and then let her
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  Speaker 7: just walk.
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  Speaker 5: Around and instead of saying trick or treat, you say,
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  Speaker 5: for crying out loud, ye give me some candy?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, pal uh for crying out louder treat? Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we are underway here on this Thursday, just three sleeps
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  Speaker 1: from the NFC Conference Championship game Seahawks Rams and certainly
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  Speaker 1: we will be discussing it at great length before we
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  Speaker 1: begin our first full real discussion about it here this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Championship game.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks Rams again Sunday, and man, what a matchup? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do you guys even realize I mean they face They
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  Speaker 1: faced each other twice obviously this year. I know you
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  Speaker 1: realize that. Okay. And the points spreads, so both the
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  Speaker 1: times that the team won, they didn't cover, even though
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  Speaker 1: the point spreads were very narrow each time, Like I
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  Speaker 1: think the Seahawks were favored by a point and a
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  Speaker 1: half they won by one. Oh yeah, yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: and so yeah and this and the Rams I think
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  Speaker 1: were favored by three and a half points and they
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  Speaker 1: won by two. Okay, So this is Vegas saying throughout
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  Speaker 1: the season how close these two teams are. This is
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  Speaker 1: two games played completely differently. Yes, and they came down
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  Speaker 1: to the wire in each case and came within three
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  Speaker 1: points total the two contests, and yet even though the
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  Speaker 1: team won, they didn't cover. I mean that. And to
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  Speaker 1: top it all off, there's only one point separating them
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  Speaker 1: in their two contests. This year, there's only one yard
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  Speaker 1: separating them in their two contests. This year, they gained
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  Speaker 1: a grand total over their two games one yard separation
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  Speaker 1: in the two contests, despite the fact that the two
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  Speaker 1: games were wildly different. The two games where one team
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  Speaker 1: outplayed the other and lost, and then in the second
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  Speaker 1: game Seahawks were outplayed by the Rams and won. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just I mean, that just shows you out evenly
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  Speaker 1: fought that they are, even though they are pieced together
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  Speaker 1: differently and built built differently. And yes, both teams have
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  Speaker 1: like the Seahawks have a good offense and the Rams
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  Speaker 1: have a good defense, but the bottom line is the matchup.
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  Speaker 1: That really is the matchup, even more so I think
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  Speaker 1: than Stafford versus Darnold. Is the number one offense in
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League versus the number one defense in
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League in terms of points put on
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  Speaker 1: the board per game, and that's what's going down. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't happen that frequently, not at this level, and usually
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  Speaker 1: it favors the defense historically. I'll let you know which
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  Speaker 1: is good for us. But yeah, this is there are
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  Speaker 1: other aspects of the game, and maybe it's their defense
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  Speaker 1: and our offense that ends up deciding this thing. But
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  Speaker 1: in terms of man, where's the great matchup? It's the
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  Speaker 1: Rams defense with their MVP quarterback and a guy PFF
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  Speaker 1: has said is the best player in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 1: Puka Nakua against Mike McDonald's defense. And not only are
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  Speaker 1: they number one in the National Football League in points
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  Speaker 1: per game allowed, they're number one with a bullet if
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  Speaker 1: there's such a thing, because they're certainly playing better now
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  Speaker 1: than they've played at any during this season. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the idea of seeing which one of your strengths, right,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, ultimately, I think the team that should win
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  Speaker 5: it in whatever sport you're talking about is the one
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  Speaker 5: that's the best all the way around.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: You can't have a crazy deficiency on one side of
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  Speaker 5: the ball or the other. But it usually still boils
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  Speaker 5: down to, Okay, what's this you know straw that stirs
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  Speaker 5: a drink? What's the what's the thing that propels this team? Well,
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  Speaker 5: the defense is what propels this team. The offense can
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  Speaker 5: the offense has over the course of this season outscored
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  Speaker 5: an opponent. I mean in the game that you were
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  Speaker 5: talking about the second time that they met, where the
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  Speaker 5: Rams were pretty much unstoppable at first, and yet the
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks somehow found a way to you know, make up
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  Speaker 5: a sixteen point deficit with half of a quarter left
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  Speaker 5: to play. And so the offense did their part in
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  Speaker 5: that one. And yet, Yeah, the idea of Sean McVay
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  Speaker 5: kind of looked at as one of, if not the
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  Speaker 5: most you know, talented offensive minds is as a head
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  Speaker 5: coach versus what everybody's now recognizing is the most talented
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  Speaker 5: defensive minded coach. And how they're units, both of them,
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  Speaker 5: that's kind of what they're gonna live and die by.
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  Speaker 5: How those units are gonna clash together. Yeah, if you're
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  Speaker 5: saying it comes down to how many yards are separating
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  Speaker 5: these two one one yard? Not how many yards? How
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  Speaker 5: many yard are they separated by one? Okay, then yeah,
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  Speaker 5: pretty evenly matched. And I think it's got to be
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  Speaker 5: interesting to be in one of those buildings when you know,
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  Speaker 5: in the playoffs, so much rides on every single play,
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  Speaker 5: but with these two teams, it feels like it's even
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  Speaker 5: the every play call. There's so much riding on it, right,
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  Speaker 5: I mean you have to be playing chess, you know,
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  Speaker 5: so many different times and then hoping that boy because
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  Speaker 5: you make a mistake and call the wrong defense against
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  Speaker 5: that offense or vice versa, it could turn into six
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  Speaker 5: points real.
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  Speaker 1: Quick and in a hurry.
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  Speaker 7: And I can understand to you why people are nervous
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  Speaker 7: about the defense going up against them, considering what the
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  Speaker 7: Rams did in Game two. And you think, you know,
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  Speaker 7: with Sean McVay doing his mathematics, I picture him kind
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  Speaker 7: of like a beautiful mind. Yeah, yeah, you know, for
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  Speaker 7: them to have been able to dial up five hundred
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  Speaker 7: and eighty one yards, that's you look at that and
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  Speaker 7: think like, oh my gosh, yeah, that's that's that does
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  Speaker 7: make me nervous considering it went from like two forty
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  Speaker 7: nine to five eighty one.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a big difference from Game one to Game two.
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  Speaker 7: But I I have so much faith in this defense
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  Speaker 7: to not do that again.
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  Speaker 6: And if you.
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  Speaker 7: Look at the offensive output they had, they were only
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  Speaker 7: one yard apart from Game one to Game two. Four
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  Speaker 7: hundred and fourteen yards of total offense for the Seahawks
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  Speaker 7: in Game one, four hundred and fifteen in Game two,
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  Speaker 7: So they've been at least consistent offensively. Yeah, that's been
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  Speaker 7: the big issue. So and I mean and and he
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  Speaker 7: cut that in half in game two. So cut that
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  Speaker 7: in half again in game agree with Yeah, yeah, cut
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  Speaker 7: that in half again in game three, and assume that
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  Speaker 7: Mike McDonald's not gonna come back out with a defensive
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  Speaker 7: you know, output like you did last time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the nervous about at all. Maybe there are reasons
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  Speaker 1: to be as a Sea Hawk fan. I don't think that.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I'm not. I don't think that you should be.
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  Speaker 1: And the and the reasons are because of that Mike
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  Speaker 1: McDonald beautiful mind. We got it gon Nash too, Yeah
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  Speaker 1: we do. And I'll just say, there's what one playoff game,
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  Speaker 1: So eighteen games, you have eighteen games worth of information
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  Speaker 1: and two times the offense had a better plan than
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  Speaker 1: his defense. All right, this entire season, Tampa Bay and
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. He was humiliated by the Tampa Bay situation,
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  Speaker 1: blamed himself for it, and also admitted that I over
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  Speaker 1: coached in the LA game. I made it too complicated.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna go ahead, first of all, inside
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  Speaker 1: with the percentages. Doesn't mean the Rams won't come out
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  Speaker 1: and have a good day. I mean, that's the sports.
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  Speaker 1: You never know. But in terms of the percentages, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't think that Mike McDonald, that can even happen
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  Speaker 1: to him again. Uh. And then the second thing is
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  Speaker 1: even within that game where they they compiled all of
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  Speaker 1: those yards, they went into halftime if you remember, and
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  Speaker 1: Kyrien Williams had been running all over them. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald got in a half time and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: I know what they're doing. Here's what we're gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: And Kyraen Williams didn't do anything in the second half
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  Speaker 1: after that. Now they in stopping Kyron Williams then couldn't
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  Speaker 1: stop Stafford and Nakua and that combination. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: the advanced scouting that you have at this point in
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  Speaker 1: the year, the you know, having faced them two times
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  Speaker 1: already this year and getting to face them a third time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that you're gonna shut them
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  Speaker 1: down like you did San Francisco. I think they're too talented,
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  Speaker 1: they're too healthy compared to the forty nine ers. Mcveigh's
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  Speaker 1: too good. I mean, we're not gonna get it. We're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna get a game where the Rams can't figure
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  Speaker 1: out how to move the chains. It's not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a forty nine er game like we've seen the last
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  Speaker 1: two times out. But I also am just as confident,
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  Speaker 1: if not more so, that there's no way they're duplicating
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  Speaker 1: what they did offensively the last time. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that if you get that consistent offensive effort and you
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  Speaker 1: don't commit more than two turnovers, I think that you're
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  Speaker 1: in good shape. I think this game's probably going to
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  Speaker 1: be played or in the low twenties. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that Mike McDonald will live with that. Yeah, Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: would think you'd live with that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: If you say twenty to twenty four points, you give
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  Speaker 5: that up, then you should feel like you can go
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  Speaker 5: out there, your offense can go out there. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I said yesterday, I have a lot of people brought
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  Speaker 5: it up. I'm sure how quick this Seattle offense has
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  Speaker 5: been able to strike over the course of the season.
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  Speaker 5: I mean they've been able to put up points. They
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  Speaker 5: did it even in that game that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 5: where I mean they were getting out played and then
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  Speaker 5: bang bang, all of a sudden, when it's thirty to fourteen,
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  Speaker 5: they end up coming back and somehow tying it and
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  Speaker 5: then win it in overtime. So I think the offense
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  Speaker 5: is capable of doing it. You gotta slow them down
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  Speaker 5: to some degree, and I think you need to do
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  Speaker 5: it sooner then later.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 5: If I would want to let them get off to
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  Speaker 5: a crazy hot start that you then have to make
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  Speaker 5: an adjustment to because I think that the way in
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  Speaker 5: which that second one went down, now everybody could say, well,
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  Speaker 5: they shouldn't really won the first game. They got out
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  Speaker 5: played in the first game, with the exception that Reek
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  Speaker 5: Woland kind of that that catch by the tight end.
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  Speaker 1: Now that was the San Francisco game. Oh that was
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the There was something in the in
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  Speaker 5: the crazy and the Rams game that I was thinking over.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the four turnovers, and he's still almost won by
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  Speaker 1: a field goal, which is another thing. Field goal. That's
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  Speaker 1: another reason why I'm not worried. I mean, you've made
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  Speaker 1: four turnovers and still had a chance to win the
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  Speaker 1: game if you know it was a long field goal.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Jason Myer's been that good this year.
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  Speaker 1: They had a chance, he had a chance even with
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  Speaker 1: four turnovers. And then in the second game to have
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  Speaker 1: given up five hundred and eighty yards, which is such
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  Speaker 1: an outlier and one I mean, I just don't think
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  Speaker 1: Sam Donald's going to be that sloppy with the football
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  Speaker 1: the national media scene to think. So, they think he's
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  Speaker 1: that way every single game. Every time he wakes up
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  Speaker 1: like he's buttering his bagel and he fumbles it into
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  Speaker 1: the trash. That's the way the national media sees him.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm kind of with Ashley. Yeah. Four turnovers
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  Speaker 1: in the first game, two in the second. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: could live with two. Yeah, I can live with two,
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  Speaker 1: And I think you win on Sunday. Don't do that
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  Speaker 1: anymore than that. No, but if you can cut it
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  Speaker 1: down again to one, yeah, then I feel really good
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  Speaker 1: about the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and I like our game plan that we started
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  Speaker 7: with last week, Like just run the opening kickoff back.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great game, that's a good start.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how we should do it every game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why Harball Jay Harbaugh doesn't
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: do that. Yeah.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: I feel like if we would have implemented that.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: Saving saving it for the last few games of the season.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: Well, so I think I think we're in good hands
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: with that game plan for sure.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
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  Speaker 1: Greg's all right, yeah, I believe so.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: I haven't heard anything else.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: I was thinking this morning, Oh, I wonder if I
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: should check in with him, and I thought, you know what,
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: he'd let us know if he was if he were not.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: He got a lot of love yesterday. That was really
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: nice to see. Greg. You got a lot of fans
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: out there. They really rallied to your support. I think
• 17:55
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• 17:59
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• 18:02
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• 18:05
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• 18:08
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• 18:15
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• 18:19
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• 18:23
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• 18:26
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• 18:29
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• 18:34
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• 18:36
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• 18:40
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• 18:45
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• 18:49
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• 18:53
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• 18:56
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• 19:01
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• 19:05
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• 19:09
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• 19:15
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• 19:19
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• 19:22
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• 19:25
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• 19:28
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• 20:17
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• 20:21
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• 20:27
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• 20:31
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• 20:37
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• 20:43
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• 20:47
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• 20:49
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• 21:02
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• 21:09
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• 21:11
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• 21:14
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• 21:17
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• 22:06
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• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald is of course a big topic of conversation nationally.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: The narrative is about his whether or not he has
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the juice to win in a big game such as
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the NFC Conference championship game. We kind of feel here
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: at least most of us, that we're not worried about
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: that he's got the juice. Well, we're worried about is
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that injury and just how healthy he's going to be
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: after playing with that injury this past week, taking a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of a beating, but then being able to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: put his feet up on the desk for the end
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of the third quarter and the entire fourth quarter. How
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: is Sam Donald feeling? How is he preparing for this
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Rams game on Sunday? Yesterday he spoke to the media
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: Feel good, you know, feeling really good just attacking Rehoub
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: these last couple of days. Obviously will be throughout the week. So,
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: like I said, just got to continue to prepare and
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: get my body right for Sunday.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Donald say he exhaled a little bit after the sequence
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: where you got sacked and then hit.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Cooper on the next play.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Did you have any moments in the game like that,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: what you felt like, yeah, I'm gonna be okay or
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: anything like that, or yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: I think just once I came out, to be honest,
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: once I came out and warm ups and felt good
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: throwing the ball. You know, I was confident about going
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: out there and letting it rip, and you know, whatever
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: happens throughout the game, whether I take a hit or not. Like,
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: you know, it's whatever happens happens. You know, if I
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: something you know, tragic happens and I you know, go
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: down and you know, can't get up or you know, uh,
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: then it is what it is. And you know, uh,
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: Drew Jalen, you know they're they're ready to go. But
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: obviously hopefully that doesn't happen. But yeah, I'm I'm ready
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: to you know, attack everything and be ready for anything.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold yesterday talking about his injury Bob Candot to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the other voice that you heard always prying.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: It's like there, it's like they think it's their job
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: to ask questions.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Always knowsy that guy, so many questions. I mean, what
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: was it in your your business? How he felt? Yeah? Anyway,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't see any reason here again to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: worry about this. I mean, if Sam gets up to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the podium on Wednesday yesterday, and he's like trying to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: answer questions and like, yeah, I felt pretty cool, Yeah good,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: really good in the game. I mean I took a
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: couple of big hits, but no big issue. I mean
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I really muscle hold on, give me a second, I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: muscled through. Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, then we got a problem. Yeah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: but you know, straight backed, clear of voice, strong of will.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I think Sam's fine. Yeah, I do too.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: I mean the when when Matt Hasselbeck starts talking about
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: how you're just you feel totally fine with it, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: then it's just whether or not you got the fastball.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: That led me to have a little bit more concern
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: about it than I did before or going into last week,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: and then even majority of this week. It just I mean,
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: I have never thrown a football like these guys throw footballs,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: and so I don't understand where that kind of torque.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: But I mean I've obviously thrown a ball a lot,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: and I know what that feeling of having a tweaked
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: o bleak would be. You're not going to pitch with it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: You don't want to swing a bat with it, I'll.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Tell you that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: But to be able to go out there players are soft. Yeah, sure,
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: sure you will go with that, and you just yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: lazy soft the teammates yeah, quitters, yeah, all of that right,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: And then we.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Heard what you were putting down.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah good, I'm glad you guys were getting it. I
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: was trying to not say it. I didn't want to
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: throw it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: You were subtle about it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: All my friends under the bus. But yeah, you guys
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: are horrible and weak minded individuals. But Sam Darnold is not.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: I I don't have a bunch of worry about. He's
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: definitely going to play. I would think that that the
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: fact that they're still like, we're not. He's not throwing
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: every pass in practice, he's not going to Mike McDonald's,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: we're not he's not going to do that. Is the
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: fact that they're still watching out for it. That there's
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: still something there that kind of lingers a little bit
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: and probably will be for the remainder of the season.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: But if they have it to the point where he's
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: still going to be fine to play, and if it
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: was to get bad enough that they had to shoot
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: him with something that some sort of you know, a
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: masking agent that makes it where it doesn't hurt, he'll
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I guarantee it for a couple more games. What's some
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: butter on it?
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I always read, butter on your womb?
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: I think too because it is his left oblique right right,
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: that's the opposite, yeah, osite side, So that I think
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: that we you know, he lucked out in the sense
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: that that's the side that got hurt.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Obviously it's not. It's not.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Actually they say that's the worst side.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: See, I would think the throwing motion would make the
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: right side work.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: No, I think because that's the one that's the side
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: that is going to kind of initiate the twist, the
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: pulling of torquing your your torso.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, it is what it is. I think he
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: caught it right when it happened. Yeah, and then they
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: stopped the progress of the injury at that point in time.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: To me, it feels like I don't think it's much
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: of an issue. I wouldn't worry about it whole heck
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: of a lot.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I didn't notice it at all in the game.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think an expert I probably did. Like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck been through the experience, probably did. Maybe they
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: did be a little more conservative with some play calling.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: But when you win by thirty five, it doesn't really
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: show up. And so that was perhaps the best medicine
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that you didn't have to gut it out for all
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: four quarters on Saturday because of a lopsided contest. So
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold looks like he's ready to go, and that's
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: great news for all football fans. Let's face it, the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is go to the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: NFC conference championship game with a quarterback injury.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: What that would be terrible to be at your conference championship.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: It's awesome when you just get I mean, I would
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: think it would be totally fine to just go through
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: the grueling part of a full season and then you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: get the bye, and then your first game you win
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: it and you know, outstanding, and then all of a sudden,
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: for some reason after the game's over, Nope, starting quarterback
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: doesn't get to play the next game.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: You're right. I don't think you have.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: To worry about that with Sam Darnlold, and that would
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: be that would be rough if you did.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I wonder if the NFL now regrets rigging the game
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: for the Bronco.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, probably they do.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, they could have had Josh Allen.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: We didn't have the broken bone in our script, Josh.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Allen playing this week.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think basically Sean McDermott is mad because
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: he got beat by a guy with a broken ankle
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: and he got fired that's basically what it couldn't beat
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: a guy that had a broken ankle.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: And I'm sure the Broncos are in trouble because they
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: didn't stick to the script and keep him healthy.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: That's what you're supposed to do.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks a lot, Peyton. Anyway, I was I've got something,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and I don't think I have it nearly enough time
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: to do it now now they were down to like
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: eight minutes left in the segment. But maybe we'll do
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: this more frequently because I went back through my notes
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that I made during the last Seahawks Rams game to
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: come from behind, okay, and I think there's some interesting
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: things that popped up in that game, and I went
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: through the exercise and I'm like, oh man, this is
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: pretty fascinating to go back and wrote right down to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: have what you wrote down as you were going through
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: that game. So I don't know how much we'll get
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: through this, but I think there's some interesting points to
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: make from this little exercise that I did. And I'm
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: going to start with right off the bat. The first
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: thing I'll start with, and this is probably what I
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: should edit out, but I wrote skirmish injury measurement. No, yep,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: injury Kevin Dotson. Okay, so that wasn't like back to back. Yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it was just me reacting as time is going back.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Just look like an injury garden variety football injury to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman caught up in the fray, but not so fast.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Dotson's still very angry with Derek Hall, claiming publicly that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: it was a dirty play numerous times. So this is
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be the first time they faced each other since that.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's more on the line than just some
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: personal grudge match against the guy that you thought injured. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: injured you intentionally. There's more at play, you don't. You're
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: not gonna get in a fight, get kicked out of
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the game, or get fifteen yards. It's not probably gonna
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: show up in this game. But nonetheless, this is the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: first time that they're facing each other since that time.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he said he he ended up saying in
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: a you know, meeting with the media afterwards, like yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do anything about it, but we'll see
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: him again that du So. I don't think that means
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: he's gonna find him, you know, outside of the hotel.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: I don't think it means anything. I think it means
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: on the football field, where it's legal to smash each other,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: He's going to try his best to he.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Would love nothing more than to smash.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Him, yes, and get away with it, and tried to
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: do it within the rules of the game so he
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: doesn't get penalized.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something to keep an eye on, I suppose. Then
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Seahawks were up seven to three start a second quarter.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Pooka Niaku had already had four catches seventy four yards
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: in the game, and I wrote down, why is Nikua
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: consistently open? And then all of a sudden, Nikua is
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: open again. Now Stafford missed him. It was an overthrow,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: but it was a wide open Nakula went over his head.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Would have been a huge play. And so already I'm like,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: why is Nikula consistently open against our defense? And they
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: never did cover him. He ended up with twelve catches,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five yards and two touchdowns that day.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about an outlier to this season.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Nikua is that good or if
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks were just off their game that much in
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that contest, But it wasn't just Nikua making every catch.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Stafford was thrown to them. Obviously, I felt like, why
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: is their best receipt. We know he's their best receiver.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows that he's their best How is he getting
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: open so consistently wide open against this defense we love
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and admire so much here in Seattle.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well I don't, Yeah, I don't think. I think
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: that is a Sean McVay thing.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, pukin a coup is great.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: And obviously he's picking up what Sean McVay is putting down.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: And then he has the trust of Matthew Stafford to
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: where he's going to look at. He's going to look
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: to him, and regardless of how open he is, he
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: believes that he'll come down with the ball even if
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: he's covered. But he's open a ton. That's a Sean
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: McVay thing to me.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Twelve forty five, in the second quarter, I wrote field
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: goal good nevous with an N. Yeah, it's it's nevus.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Cam, Yeah, I wrote it with an end.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: A second quarter midway I wrote down LA two hundred
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and six yards to seventy six. And that was as
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the Rams were finishing off a touchdown drive to take
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: a thirteen to seven at halftime and I wrote down
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Rams dominating up front, and then I added one word
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: stunningly because when you think about it, I mean, what
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: have we probably highlighted more than anything else about why
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks are good this year? That front four, and
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: yet they were getting dominated in that game by the
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Rams front four in that contest, even without a starter
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: in Kevin Dotson. At least that's how it felt to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: me in the moment.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: Well it was. I mean, there's no part about how.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, the way in which the game ended up
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: made it feel far better. The way in which that
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: game went for the first three plus quarters was absolute
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: dominance by the story that is the Sean McVay versus
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald. There's no doubt about it. I mean, they
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: scored on six straight possessions at one point during the game,
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: and then when they stopped them all, they totally stopped it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Interesting to say that we'll get to that in a moment.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Third quarter, Seattle's actually up fourteen to thirteen because of
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a ken Walker touchdown run Stafford Dodges pressure deep to Smith,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I wrote plus forty eight yards touchdown and then added
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: wide open. How because we're just not used to seeing that. Yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: we're not used to seeing teams scheme wide open wide receivers,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: and we've seen it two times this year Tampa Bay
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and the second Rams game. I'm just gonna trust that
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: those are outliers, that that's just not gonna happen this weekend.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe it happens once or twice, but not consistently like
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: it did in that game where you're falling behind eight
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: thirty seven third quarter, I wrote thirty six yard field
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: goal good Beavis with a bow? Yeah, I guess I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: couldn't see the back of his jersey. And I never
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: heard of that chunky kicker before. For some reason, I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: didn't have that one in the memory bank. And I'm like,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is bicker kicker? Is he saying Nevas or Beavis? And
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it turns out it's mevs Yeah with an m thicker kicker? Yeah,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: mevus and butt Head is the kicker punter compesh.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah with the sounds right.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Seven minutes third quarter, Darnald interception Wallace down to the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: one yard line, I wrote bad throw. Then I wrote
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: where is Walker? Because that's the game where Walker started
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to run like we saw him kind of get showcased.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: And yet Kubiak kept sticking with the rotation with sharbon Ay.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Now Walker had the last possession sharbon A's turn, we
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. I mean, I really
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: like Zach Charbonay, but man, I just want ken Walker
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: to be the running back and I want him to
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: get every care So if he's on a roll, I don't.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, as much as I'd like for Zak Charbonay
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: to be on the field on Sunday, at least I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: at least him being out. I don't have to worry
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: about Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald taking out a red
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: hot running back. It's the end of the season. We're
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: not saving him for anything else. Who cares about free
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: agency right now? Give him the damn ball and we
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry that if he's hot, he's going
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: to be taken out to rest. Yeah, well, I'm with you.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: You don't have to worry about that now because there
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: is no they're not going to give Whoever is going
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: to try to fill that role, he's not going to
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: have the same role. But then again, that role has
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: worked out pretty well as of late, with him getting
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: the ball down on the goal line with the twelve touchdowns.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: He guess, all right, we got Rams twenty three, Seahawks fourteen.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: At this point end of the third, I wrote Bryant injury.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: So that's when Kobe Bryant went down. He's back and
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: now he's he back. He led the team in snaps Saturday.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: That's how back Kobe Bryant is. That's a great addition
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: for the team. Eleven minutes, fourth quarter, Donald interception Kobe
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Turner on third and goal from the six. Remember we
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: got denied points right then and there and still came
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: back and won this game. But I did literally right,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe he swept up in the emotion. Okay, Donald may
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: have a RAMS issue, even though I don't feel like
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that right now. I don't feel like that today, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I've been preaching about it all week long. I did
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: in the moment out of frustration. That's fair, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: giving away points and a Gino Smith third and goal
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: from the six, I wrote down, all right, maybe I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: got to admit to this. Maybe Donald does have a
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: RAMS issue.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, he's six interceptions two games. Is not
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: something that you just get to overlook. But you also
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: do have to look at it with the grain of
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: salt where it's it is just two games and he
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: has ended up winning one of them and out playing
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: him in the other one.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Thirty to fourteen. The Rams were already up when that happened,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden something started to occur.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Next Rams possession, they were stopped three and out. Keep
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: that in mind. Eight minutes left fourth quarter, Shaheed punt
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: return touchdown. So again Shaheed provides the spark Saturday, he
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: provided the spark in this game. If you remember, two
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: point tried good. It was thirty to twenty two at
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: that point. Then Tyrese Knight for the second time, a
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: huge pop on special teams on the ensuing kickoff, So
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: that happened on two straight kickoffs. So see what we're
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: getting at, See the momentum that started to be built.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Even though Sam doesn't have the good day, what do
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: we have going here? We've got special teams contributions both
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: on coverage and on return. And the next then the
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: next thing I wrote down three and out in all caps,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: chance to tie all the momentum in the world. Shaheeda
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: thirty one in yard end a round Donald a twenty
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: six yard touchdown pass to Barner two point try successful,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: to which I wrote, craziest two point conversion ever, Holy
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: f dash k exclamation mark Rams thirty Seahawks thirty. So
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that was the completion of the comeback next possession, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: we'll close with this third three and out in a row.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: So I think that is something that got lost in
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: that game. We gave up five hundred and eighty one
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: total yards to McVeigh and Stafford and Nikua, and the
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Rams gave up an unlikely thirty seven points, came back
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: in one thirty seven, and there were contributions from everywhere.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Donald Donald ended up making some key throws, Walker had
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: some explosive runs. Obviously Shaheed had had the turnaround moment
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: in the game. But when you give up that many points,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you don't typically give credit to the defense. They had
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: three straight third and outs in the second half in
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: that game. They were a down at one point, what
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: thirty to fourteen? They were down sixteen points, but in
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the second half, even though the Stafford and Nakoul lit
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: them up, they had three straight three and outs against
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: that offense on a night they were on fire. And that,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: as much as anything helps you come back from sixteen
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: points down in the second half, so the defense didn't
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: do nothing that day. The defense, really, when it mattered most,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: got you the ball back so you could complete the comeback.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, they did exactly that. There's part
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: of me while I was watching that game, the first
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: three and out before the ban bang three and out,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: and then it's the punt return, and I'm thinking myself,
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: you better not let off the gas. Rams you better not,
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: because at thirty to fourteen, I think they did have
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: a tendency of like, okay, we kind of got this,
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: especially thirty to fourteen, and then you intercept the ball,
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: stopping them from stopping the Seahawks from going down and
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: getting points right there, and then that's where the first
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: three and out the punt return happens. And it to
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: me it was like, if you took the foot off
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: the gas a little bit, you are allowing them to
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: gain some momentum. The kick return did it, and then
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: the punt the coverage on the next one, I mean,
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: the defense did it. I think there was an adjustment,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: but I think there's a part of it also that
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: was thirty to fourteen, everything's going on our way, and
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: I think they let up a little bit.
• 44:32
  Speaker 11: M hm.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Well, anyway, fascinating thing. Maybe we'll do that more. Yeah, likely,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next the share Coacher reboard. Boy,
• 44:41
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• 44:45
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• 44:48
  Speaker 1: three kJ RFM. Yeah, yeah, well it was, it was.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: It was interesting when you know, all we could see
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: was your nose up.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I felt I was trying to like stay alive from drowning.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here, but I was afraid I was
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: going to break it if I forced it too much.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: But Bucky's got I let's try it gently. It's our
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: twelfth man roundtable. It's Hugh, it's Greg with us here.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: As of course, we're getting you ready for Seahawks Rams
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: on Sunday at three point thirty. All right, that's a
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: big chunk. We haven't even discussed the Rams offense. With
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: the assumed MVP and maybe the best receiver in the
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: world in Poka Nakua taking on this Seahawks defense was
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: just absolutely on fire. Hugh. This is number one versus
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: number one. I mean, you want a heavyweight out the
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: number one offense in the NFL versus the number one
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. Oh yeah, let's get it on. Yeah.
• 45:50
  Speaker 11: We've talked about the the defense for the Rams sliding.
• 45:54
  Speaker 11: But you know, I think job number one. You mentioned
• 45:56
  Speaker 11: Pooka and Nikoua. Let's let's go back to the game.
• 45:59
  Speaker 11: Down in La Nikua had seven catches and four of
• 46:04
  Speaker 11: them were for ten or more yards, but none twenty
• 46:08
  Speaker 11: or more. Now in Seattle he had the same four
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: ten or more yards, but all four of those were
• 46:17
  Speaker 11: more than twenty five. He had catches a fifty eight,
• 46:20
  Speaker 11: fifty four, forty one, and twenty seven. Everything else was
• 46:23
  Speaker 11: less than ten. So those four big plays they had
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: Nicoua lined up on the right side of the formation.
• 46:32
  Speaker 11: All four of them. Three of them were inbreaking which
• 46:36
  Speaker 11: leads me to Matthew Stafford has an interesting thing about
• 46:41
  Speaker 11: if you remember that no look past he had in
• 46:43
  Speaker 11: the Super Bowl that that created with three minutes ago,
• 46:47
  Speaker 11: the twenty two yards to Cooper Cup.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: He beat a safety von Bell on that play by
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: no looking on him.
• 46:55
  Speaker 11: Against Seattle, he had an inbreaking route where he no
• 47:00
  Speaker 11: looked on Ernest Jones and that was one for fifty
• 47:05
  Speaker 11: four yards.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 47:07
  Speaker 11: He had another one for the touchdown pass to Nicoua
• 47:11
  Speaker 11: from the one yard line.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: He no looked on that.
• 47:14
  Speaker 11: Every time he does this, it's it's a receiver running
• 47:18
  Speaker 11: from the right side to the left. I have not
• 47:21
  Speaker 11: seen him do anything other than again right to left.
• 47:25
  Speaker 11: And Stafford, if you and this is how I filtered
• 47:28
  Speaker 11: at air yards ten to twenty two. That's intermediate in
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: breaking routes filtered for that. Stafford fit number one in
• 47:36
  Speaker 11: the NFL and attempts number two in rating only to
• 47:40
  Speaker 11: Jared Goff. But to the left side, he's he's got
• 47:46
  Speaker 11: more than double coming from the right side. So Seattle
• 47:49
  Speaker 11: has to be aware of that and this idea that
• 47:53
  Speaker 11: he's going to look you off.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: He did it to Ernest Jones twice.
• 47:56
  Speaker 11: And he did it and and on the overtime touchdown,
• 48:00
  Speaker 11: ty Akata was duped out. He was in the wrong
• 48:04
  Speaker 11: position as well, and Nicoua gets an overtime touchdown. Seattle
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: course had to come back and get the touchdown. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 11: that portion of it is lethal and Greg I'll close
• 48:16
  Speaker 11: my thoughts on Nikoua with this. Eventually, Dennis Allen, the
• 48:21
  Speaker 11: defensive coordinator for the Bears, was gonna get out schemed
• 48:24
  Speaker 11: by Sam McVay at midfield in overtime third and five
• 48:29
  Speaker 11: when the Bears had to get a stop because they
• 48:31
  Speaker 11: probably would have forced.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: A pond that it was a easy design blitz.
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: For Matthew Stafford to just rise up and hit Nikua
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: right there on a lot adjustment. It fooled him zero
• 48:44
  Speaker 11: and Nikou on third and five, and actually I think
• 48:47
  Speaker 11: it was excuse me, the third and seventy caught it
• 48:49
  Speaker 11: at five years whatever it was. He then dragged guys
• 48:52
  Speaker 11: for twelve more yards down into field goal range, and
• 48:55
  Speaker 11: so that was kind of the play of the game.
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: And it was a very ilk con blitz.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 49:01
  Speaker 11: On bringing seven Matthew Stafford he probably said, really, really,
• 49:05
  Speaker 11: you're trying that on me, thirty seven years old. You're
• 49:08
  Speaker 11: trying that on me anyway, Seattle can't make those mistakes.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, McDonald has been reluctant to blitz so far in
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: his three Well we'll throw out the JV game three
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: meetings against the Rams and the key to the same
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: the Seattle meeting here last month. The front four that
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: had done wonders all year affecting quarterbacks did not in
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: that game. And that allows Kua with those deep crossers
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: that he was talking about two hundred and twenty five
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: yards receiving because of those deep crossers.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: That's the task this weekend.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Does McDonald to the front four to Leonard Williams and
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: de Marcus Lawrence and Byron Murphy? Are they going to
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: get to affect the quarterback Stafford with just rushing for
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: and allowing them to still cover seven and have their
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: six and five man defensive secondaries on all the things
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: that McDonald's able to do with it, Employee Eman Worry,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Can you do it without bringing any of those back seven?
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: They didn't in the second meeting. Will they?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna blitz a little more. I think
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Witherspoon's gonna blitz a little not the seven man in
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: the wholesales that Stafford can easily pick out. But there's
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: so much film in the latter half of this season
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: from the Seahawks defense in McDonald of Ema Moory in
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: coverage and Witherspoon in coverage because of how successful the
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: four front four pass rush has been, that is a
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: lot there for McDonald to do that Stafford and McVeigh
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: haven't seen in disguising blitzes and bringing Witherspoon and m
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: and Worry from different places. I think they're gonna blitz
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: more those two guys in particular, probably not both at
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the same time because of the risk of Hughes outlining.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: But that's the key, because when Stafford is pressured as
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: an effected pressure, his numbers, like most quarterbacks, go way down.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Stafford is an absolutely different quarterback since he was here
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: last month. He is a sixty five plus percent passer
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: on average for this entire season. He's an under sixty
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: percent in three of his last four games. I know
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: it was zero degrees in snowing in Chicago, but he
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: was twenty of forty two.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: The MVP.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: That's MVP is a regular season vote. The MVP of
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: the league was twenty of forty two with the season
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: on the line against Chicago. He is not the same
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: quarterback he was overthrowing wide guys and wide open receivers
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta when they lost on a Monday night game.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: After they came to Seattle the opening round, they nearly
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: should have lost to Carolina, and Stafford was a barely
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: fifty percent passer that day. It's not the same offense
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: because it's not the same quarterback. He has not been
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: an MVP the last four games. Some people in Los
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Angeles are talking about the hand that he snapped on
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: the top of a helmet of a panther in that
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: first round game, and how he hasn't been the same since.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Perhaps whatever the reason this is so far on, what
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: we've seen is a different Stafford than Seahawks are going
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: to get on Sunday than they got a month ago
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: December eighteenth.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Man, it's got to be a third one then, because man,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the difference between Stafford and Game one and Stafford in
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Game two statistically was just outrageous. And I don't expect
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to see the Stafford that they confused like nobody in
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: game number one, And I don't expect to see the
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Stafford that threw for four hundred and seventy five yards
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: in game number two. It's kind of land somewhere in
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the middle, right, I mean, that's somewhere in the middle
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: of those two Staffords. We're going to have our playoffs.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Ste you would think that their defense is so good
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks offense can score enough on a regressing
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Rams defense that if they hold Donald or Stafford to
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: under four hundred, they could possibly win. Right, They won
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: with him throwing for four to seventy five. Can he
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: throw for three something? One hundred fewer yards is probably
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: one or two fewer scores and certainly five or six
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: fewer first downs.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: So no two games are the same. We've saw that.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: We saw that in the San Francisco game back to
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: back these last two weeks. But there is there are
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: some corollaries you can draw about how Stafford is playing recently.
• 52:59
  Speaker 11: Well, the Rams Areumber two in their use of dime,
• 53:02
  Speaker 11: and that's going to be a showdown there with Seattle's
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: emerging running game. I mean, over the last four games,
• 53:10
  Speaker 11: you know, the first fourteen games, the Seahawks ran for
• 53:14
  Speaker 11: a one hundred and nine yard average. There now in
• 53:17
  Speaker 11: the last four games, one hundred and sixty eight. And
• 53:20
  Speaker 11: these are on design runs, by the way, that's excluding
• 53:24
  Speaker 11: scrambles and so and so. Now the Rams they have
• 53:29
  Speaker 11: to look at Sula, Chris Shula, the defensive coordinator. He's
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: got to say, do I want to keep playing all
• 53:37
  Speaker 11: that dime where I've got these athletes that I like
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: the help and pass coverage, or do I need to
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: get heavy and stop this run?
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: All right? One last thing next, we'll get to keys
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: from Greg prediction from Bucky and one last thought from
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• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you Seahawks rams super Bowl on the line. What's going
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to be the key to victory in this one?
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Jermaine Curse, by the way, Lake What High School, University
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: of Washington. Of course he's the He has caught the
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: last pass thrown in the last NFC Championship game played
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: in Seattle. He cut the overtime touchdown from Russell Wilson
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: at beat the Packers and sent the Seahawks into Super
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Bowl forty nine.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Look, it's what I appreciate it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: At the beginning of the show, Sam Darnold not turning
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: the ball over is the overarching key to this game,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, to them raising trophies. If he
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't give the Rams a short field. I don't think
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks defense gives up the touchdowns in the yards
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: nearly that they have against the Rams. On defense, Can
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: they pressure Stafford affect Stafford without blitzing or out out
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: blitzing much? Meaning the front four Byron Murphy and Leonard Williams.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Williams got the Pro Bowl Murphy could you could argue
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: is that all Pro defensive tackle the way he plays
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: to run In the past, Murphy and Williams have combined
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: for ninety one quarterback pressures and NFL Next Gen Sets,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: says the league's advanced Stats, as second in the league
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: only Zach Allen John Franklin Myers of the Broncos are
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: also in the AFC Championship Game. That's the only duo
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: of defensive tackles with more pressures in the league than
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Byron Murphy and Williams. Can Murphy and Williams affect Stafford,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: which means that four for the Seahawks have to beat
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: five for the Rams in pass protection on the offensive line.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: If they can do that, like they have almost every
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: other team in the league. Then McDonald can do all
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: the games and stunts and tricks and disguises in the
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: secondary with Eamon Worry and Witherspoon. How much are they
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: going to have to bring Emon Worry and Witherspoon. That's
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: a real key defensively for Seattle. I'm thinking the Seahawks
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: win this game because of their defense. Much lower scoring
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: than the shootout on Thursday Night last month. It's talking
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: like twenty four to twenty and a really a classic game,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: one of those I can't believe I was there to
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: witness type of games.
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  Speaker 1: Nice Greg, nice work, bucket, what do you got.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a crazy battle. I mean,
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: I just think these teams are too evenly matched for
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: it not to be regardless of how it starts and ends.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: I don't think you can start off as slow or
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: allow the Rams offense to go the way they did
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: the first half plus like the last time they played,
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: and hope that you have a comeback in store. But
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to be more hard fought. I
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: think every blade of grass I'm going to go twenty
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: to nineteen. I think the Seahawks pull it off. I
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: think it comes down to the final.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Possession twenty to nineteen. That'd be a thriller too, all right, Hugh,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: last thoughts from you. Davante Adam's going to make a
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: differ friends in this. I mean he's healthy going into
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: this game, which is not man a case here lately.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, we didn't see him the last time in Lumen.
• 57:07
  Speaker 11: And for the season, there were seven receivers who had
• 57:11
  Speaker 11: double digit touchdowns, and DeVante Adams led the NFL with
• 57:16
  Speaker 11: fourteen despite playing in only fourteen games. The next closest
• 57:20
  Speaker 11: guy was eleven, and Jigba had ten. I watched the
• 57:25
  Speaker 11: uh his entire touchdown reel. Of the fourteen touchdowns, twelve
• 57:30
  Speaker 11: are in the red zone and ten of those ten
• 57:34
  Speaker 11: of the twelve are inside the seven so low red zone.
• 57:39
  Speaker 11: And what's unique about what they do is a few
• 57:43
  Speaker 11: things we've heard all heard RPO. RPO is obviously stands
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: for run pass option. There's a misnomer, a misconception out
• 57:52
  Speaker 11: there that that involves the quarterback. The quarterback as an RPO,
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: he can be the part of the run in terms
• 58:01
  Speaker 11: of like if you ran a quarterback draw. But it's
• 58:03
  Speaker 11: basically this the offensive line are blocking a run play
• 58:07
  Speaker 11: and the running back is taking his angle as if
• 58:10
  Speaker 11: he's getting the ball, and then the quarterback decides whether
• 58:12
  Speaker 11: the hand the ball on the run play or throw
• 58:15
  Speaker 11: either a slant or a bubble screen or what have you.
• 58:18
  Speaker 11: So almost all RPOs are from shotgun. Matthew Stafford will
• 58:24
  Speaker 11: do RPOs from under center. He did one against Seattle
• 58:28
  Speaker 11: where Davante Adams down down at so far. DeVante Adams
• 58:32
  Speaker 11: has a very narrow split, very close to the ball,
• 58:36
  Speaker 11: and so you usually say, well, you're not gonna run
• 58:38
  Speaker 11: a slant on that. You're too close to the ball.
• 58:41
  Speaker 11: You must be an outbreaking route or a fade. But
• 58:43
  Speaker 11: then he will run a slant from a very tight
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: split with the quarterback under center, with the offensive line
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: blocking a run game, and they've got touchdowns in this
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: and they and then when you think he's gonna do
• 58:57
  Speaker 11: the slant, there's all that space out there because of
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: the tight split, so it becomes a load. And by
• 59:03
  Speaker 11: the way, now Adams presumably doesn't have the quickness that
• 59:06
  Speaker 11: he did a few years ago, but we're talking about
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: one of the greatest receivers at the line of scrimmage. Quickness,
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: releases I've ever seen like when he was, you know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: going fourteen to fifteen hundred yards. That dude was just
• 59:20
  Speaker 11: like a magic show at the line of scrimmage with
• 59:23
  Speaker 11: his quickness and his releases, his ability to just get by.
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: He's like Houdini. So he is a big time load
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: down there in the low red zone. And for those
• 59:34
  Speaker 11: reasons I've described. All right, excellent stuff. Greg, you got
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  Speaker 11: a specialty show tonight, I do.
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  Speaker 4: Seven and nine.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: We kind of have Gary Kanon in the Los Angeles
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  Speaker 2: Times Rams beat writer. You're gonna hear the update and
• 59:46
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, all right, And you're playing through pain, everybody. Just
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  Speaker 12: Here's coach with what he sees as the latest. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I think, I don't know. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: when you've played you've had that many reps and you've
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  Speaker 1: worried about him playing with that injury than I am
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  Speaker 1: that he's going to get rusty in a couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: I think he knows the offense. I think that he
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  Speaker 1: everything that they're working on and planning. I mean, maybe
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  Speaker 1: Let's just go ahead and cut down on our swings
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, No, I mean, I don't think at this
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  Speaker 5: really like it's not like he's missing a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: time to accumulate RUSS. He's just not getting as much
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  Speaker 5: practice as he would like. Right, if he was one
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  Speaker 5: hundred percent healthy, you'd like to have all the throws
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  Speaker 5: and be actually working on at full speed or as
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  Speaker 5: every once in a while making a throw but kind.
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  Speaker 5: I think that it kind of creates a system where
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  Speaker 5: a couple easy plays to get in the flow of
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I had I had multiple injuries that ended
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  Speaker 5: time for the fastball. I might look stupid on a
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  Speaker 5: very many fastballs, and sure enough, you'd get a fastball
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  Speaker 5: or two account And I ended up taking advantage and
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  Speaker 5: usually came back from those on fire to some extent.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't think it means you necessarily will stumble
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  Speaker 5: or struggle, but I think there is definitely a different
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  Speaker 5: mindset that you have to go into it that is
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  Speaker 5: different than your normal routine of how you prepare for
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  Speaker 5: a game.
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  Speaker 7: I think too though, just having locked getting some more
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  Speaker 7: reps when you're heading into right now, the biggest game
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  Speaker 7: of the year, just in case something happened isn't a
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  Speaker 7: bad idea, because that's the last thing you want, is
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  Speaker 7: if something were to happen, you've got to put a
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  Speaker 7: guy in that hasn't taken a snap with the first
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: team in four.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Months, maybe the time four years.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well but I'm saying like probably, well it wouldn't
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: have been since training camp, right if he even got some,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: then maybe.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: The timing suffers a little bit, But I think you're
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: picking that up. Yeah, by second third possession at the latest.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: You're this far into the season.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yes, let's just let's just not have him throw. Yeah,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, let you have him walk through and run
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: through and tape his arms down to his sides if
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you would like, maybe put him in a wheelbarrow.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: And then just yell throw when he would have thrown
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: like gavel, gavel, gavel or whistle. You just yell throw
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: like he'll just yell throw, okay, catch, yeah, exactly, and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 7: then there you go.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, Dave Pearson's not doing anything during practice. Just
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: have him wheel him around in a wheel there and
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: then just yell.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: Throw yeah Pearson, look out, they're coming off the edge.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: So that's how practice down.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: And if it is, please get us video. Yes, that
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: would be We do appreciate that. How about Hugh Millen
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: like ken Walker thousand yards rushing Sunday, that's what I heard.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I mean he's summoning Eric Dickerson numbers out, he's exaggerating
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: for emphasis. His point is that this right his point
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: as the stage is set. There's no excuses. Ken Walker
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: is playing well. He's the only guy he's been wanting
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: all year long to be the guy wanting to get
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: into his rhythm. The Rams haven't been playing well against
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: the run here as of late, All signs point to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: ken Walker having the best day of his football life
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. Boy, you get that done. Sam Donold might
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: not even have to throw. He might be able to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: wheelbarrow it on Sunday.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you could tape his arms down, you can just
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: yell throw.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: I mean it would be exactly the way that they
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: would want to draw it up. And we've watched Clint
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: Kubiak in this offense is not ran the ball crazy efficient.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, they haven't been putting up crazy numbers. They
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: didn't lead the league in rushing yards or anything, have
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: the leading you know, rush or anything like that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: But they stick to it.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden, the idea of man, what
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: would happen if you just didn't give him a share
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: of the carries?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: But he just got all of it because.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: We I don't I think there's an there's definitely something
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: to You're increasing your chance of getting injured if you're
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: just the bell count you take all the all the reps.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: So we've kept him healthy throughout the course of the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: season by sharing his reps with with Zach Charbonney. But
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: I do think that there's something to boy this. Let
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: him start to eat, let him go. Like once they
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: start feeling it right, they start to inflict pain at
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: the end of runs and they start to feel themselves
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: a little bit more. You start getting a feel for
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: you know, how quickly these backside linebackers are collapsing on
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: that hole, and so you're bouncing things a little better.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: I think there's a chance that he does have his
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: best game, but I think you got to get off
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: to a good start in order for that top.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Coming off a pretty damn good game. If he play
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: has a better game, his best game, wow.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm fine with him doing what he did
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: last game. I'll allow it.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah if I think three touch
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: if he scores three touchdowns.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and over one hundred yards, yeah, appreciate it.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: On that one. On the other side, of course, defensively,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: I mean we here in Seattle, I think every Seahawk
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: fan has the utmost confidence in the defense, even though
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: the last time you faced the Rams, they racked up
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: five hundred and eighty one yards against this defense and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: didn't have an answer all day long for the great
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Puka Nikua. And let's not beat around the bush. He's great.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe our guy is in that conversation too.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, national people JSN as the best receiver
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: right now. Jamar Chase is certainly in that conversation. But
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Pooka Nikua, former fifth rounder, is in that conversation at
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the very least of being the best receiver and according
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus, the best player in the National
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Football League this season. So how do you stop him?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 12: Here's coach McDonald So, I mean, uh, you name it.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 12: I mean, ball skills are are tremendous. So a lot
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 12: of those contested catches, he's coming down with body control,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 12: you know, on the sideline, being able to make plays.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Uh, they kind.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 12: Of he can kind of do everything, so you can't
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 12: just count for him for to doing one thing. He's
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 12: great in the run game. It's great running after catch. Yeah,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 12: I mean he kind of gets like hidden yardages, which
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 12: is which is a testament to his toughness. And so
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 12: he does a lot of great things. He's a really
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 12: good player.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: You know. Aaron Noticey always just stops it really good.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I think Mike McDonald's shares my glossary of terms I'm
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: not I have to earn great. Yeah, he always they're
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: really good. Like McVeigh, the great team faced we're facing
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: very very very great playing great football right now. They're
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: just they're just great. Your eyes.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: The eyes were perfect, Sean McVay.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Eyes had perfect Sean mcvaghy did he's got Sean McVay.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good song, not great. It's a good song, a.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Very good song. Sean mcvina, great song, great song man. Oh,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks, Oh geez, the best. Actually, I think that's
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Kim Carneson. Yeah, Kim Carnes.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: Great, Oh my gosh.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. Kim Carns is very good, very good singer.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: It was a very good, so good, and I enjoyed it.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Looking I'm very much looking forward to seeing the concert
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure she put on a very good performance. No,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. Uh So Pooka Nikoua, no getting
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: around it. He's great. He's not just very good. He's
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: turned into a great football player. We had great one
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: too in JSN. But JSN didn't have two hundred and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: twenty five yards, twelve catches and two touchdowns the last
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: time we faced him, and so I don't. I I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: would bet everything that I have that Nkoup is not
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: going to touch that. But he affects the games in
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: so many ways. He's very good blocking down field. They'll
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: give him the ball on the end around two or
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: three times a game. It's outstanding in the red zone.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: He's he'll get you. They give it to him when
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: they need tough yardage, when it's third down and one,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: they'll they'll they'll do an in and round with him
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: because he's their best not just a run after the catch,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: he's their best run after being hit. He's better than
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Kyrin Williams at that.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, he's he brings a different skill set. He's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: kind of a He's got a little bit of the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: Deebo Samuel, but I maybe even better hands as far
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: as contested balls. But I mean Deebo Samuel Samuel, remember
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: when he was with the Niners.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: He just was that.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: He was like there was something about him that made
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: him really difficult to get to the ground after he
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: caught the ball. Pookah's got that, and that's such big ass.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: That's what it is. Got a big ass. I got
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: a big dumper. Yeah, well that big.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: Dumpers are are there in twenty six. The big dumpers
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: are in and he definitely has that. There's a tough
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: to him. He's obviously not worried about the contact that comes.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is going to be about as hyped
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: up as that defense is going to be, and I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: think that they're going to be wanting to put a
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: lick on him. You know, they're going to be wanting
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: to make him feel it whenever he does touch the ball.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: He's the type of guy that you just got to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: hope to contain, right. I mean, I don't think he's
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: gonna get to twenty five either. I mean, there was
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: a few big chunk plays there. I mean, it wasn't
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: if you keep him to where his longest pass is
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: a thirty yarder, he can let him catch eight or
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: nine balls, and I don't think that that's going to
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: be the reason you lose. You just can't let him
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: go off and you have a trouble stop and Kyrie
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: Williams the running back, and then let them figure out
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: a way to get a couple other people in the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: game to where next thing, you know, they're scoring thirty
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: thirty five points.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: So we just can't do what we did in the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: second game. Yeah, basically, yeah.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Well, and I as we pointed out at seven o'clock,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: I wrote down at one point, like their offensive line
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: is dominating our defensive in that game. That's not happening again.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not gonna happen. I mean, they
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: maybe they win the day, but they're not going to
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: dominate the day. And so again another topic we discussed yesterday.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: You get a four man pass rush, you're able to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: drop seven into coverage and not just seven. We don't
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: have just your run of the mill seven. First of all,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: all of our best defensive backs are healthy, and linebacker
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: right now and linebackers right now, they are healthy. We
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: also are the most versatile secondary in the National Football League.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: The number of different things that they can do, probably
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: the most athletic, and when you consider Emon Warren Woolden,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: when you factor them into the equation, and then you've
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: got the smarts of Julian Love and the toughness of
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant and everything else. I mean, the front four
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: does its job than the back seven, including Ernest Jones
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: with six interceptions this year from inside linebacker, they're going
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: to get their all done as well. And so I
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: just there's no chance he's going to have the game
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: that he had the last game.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 7: Well, and not to mention, I think the defense was
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: embarrassed by giving up that many that might Mitch yardage
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 7: and that many points because that's just not what they do.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 7: So there's an element of pride at the Seahawks defense
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 7: is going out there with in this game as well.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: And I do think that the big dumpers are the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: new nice calves.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah they are.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: You know, orange is the new black. Big dumpers are
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: the new ice calves. All right, let's talk about turnover deferential.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: It is a huge factor in every football game. We
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: already know that. So it's a cliche and if you're
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: using that in your pregame analysis, you're lazy at your job. Okay.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: So but when you do have a little bit of
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: statistical history that says, man, we turned the ball over
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: a lot more against that team than we do anybody else. Okay,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: I will allow people to use that as their pregame
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: analysis this week, because obviously there's been a bit of
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: a contrast here and we can't fall into the same pattern.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Sam donald cannot have three turnovers on Sunday and expect
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: to win. Not saying you can't win, but expect to
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: win in that situation. Mike McDonald also addressed the turnover
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: differential in this matchup.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's interesting. I think I think you're looking at
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 12: a really small sample and it's kind of like two
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 12: independent like observations that happened to not go our way
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 12: takeaway wise, so you look offensively, like, hey, there's some
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 12: things we could do better to protect the ball special
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 12: teams wise, you know, I thought we've been pretty sound,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 12: you know, with the football and been secure and defensively.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 12: I think there's some things that we did in the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 12: first game that was really good, that we took the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 12: ball away and we had some opsie pass game, and
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 12: it's kind of like, are we doing you know, are
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 12: we doing the things that we need to do defensively
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 12: to kind of put the ball in jeopardy and be
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 12: able to attack it. And so it's kind of like
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 12: a paypey play game by game type of thing, and
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 12: they do a good job of protecting it, you know. So,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 12: but that that really doesn't it doesn't really have an
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 12: effect only how we prepare what we're trying to do
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 12: in terms of making the ball come to life.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Said really good again, his poor wife, How do you
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: think I look today?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: Really really good?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Really good?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: How was that dinner?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Really good? Not above that? Ever? Do we not ever
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: get above that?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 7: Imagine though, imagine how exciting it would be if it
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 7: did get above it.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: You're like day made, year made.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I think you just tell hey, it's about the process.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: We're always getting better here, right.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: If I set the standard to where that was great,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: that was, that was unbelievable, Well, now what would be
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: unbelievable be on that?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't marry Gus Johnson, you married Mike. All right,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: let's face it, we're keeping here, hun. I think it's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal point by Bucky. I mean a really good point,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: a really good point. I get carried away. Yeah, I
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: don't want you decent point, really good point, good good point.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: He never really really good.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: That's really good.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: That's where I cap out at makes sense, just really
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: good what.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: We did there. Uh and and look I'm with him.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: I'm with him a thousand percent. I think that that
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: echoes everything that I have said about this topic over
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: the entire season. It's the reason why I don't allow
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: turnovers to be used as a key to the upcoming game,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: because it's almost always a short sample size, and certainly
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: this one is. And yes, we're on the short end
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: of the stick on this one, there's no question about it.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: And maybe you do have to factor in that Sam
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Donald got sacked nine times in his last game as
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: a Viking against the Los Angeles Rams. Maybe he does
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: have an issue here. I just still can't go into
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: the game. I just don't go into this game thinking, well,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: we got a factor in at least two turnovers, because
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: you know, Sam Donald is gonna turn the ball over.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: It's the Rams after all. I mean he might, he
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: might turn it over two to four times for all
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I know. I I but to me, I think it's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: too short of a sample size to think Sam Donald
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: has a RAMS problem. I do too.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: I think that, like I've said a million times, I
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: don't think alturnatives are created the same. And I think
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: sometimes you get into a you know, if it's third
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: and long and you're outside the red zone, you're you're
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: on their forty yard line and so, but it's third
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: and twelve, you want them to take a chance to
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: complete that thing if it turns into a pick and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: now of a sudden it's their ball on the twenty
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: nine yard line, okay, versus I just throw it out
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: of bounds and we're gonna punt or we're gonna have
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: to decide do we try to go for a fourth
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: and twelve. No, you're gonna try to pin them right there.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: Probably when you're going against a team that is the
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: best team offensively at putting points up, then you have
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: to take a couple more risks to because it's like, okay,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: I am the idea of you. You've said this many
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: times of with a great defense. It doesn't mean, oh,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: play far more conservative because we don't need as much offense.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: It can mean that some teams do that. Some coaches
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: will make it that way. I think Mike McDonald has
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: Sam donald in the Hey, we obviously don't want to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: turn it over when we're down inside the ten and
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: getting ready to score. We don't want to do it
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: when we're backed up against our own end zone because
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: that's automatic points for them. We saw that with the
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: fumble or an interception that they got the ball at
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: the one yard line.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: You don't want to be doing that.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: That puts your defense in a near win, near impossible
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: situation to defend. But the idea of hey, go out
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: there slinging it with him. I want you to beat
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: Matt Stafford at Matt Stafford's game, right, if we're going
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: to compare the quarterbacks, you go beat him, because I'm
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: going to beat their defense, and so if you keep
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: pace with them and it turns into a benign turnover.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean that loosely, but you get what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: There's certain ones that are just catastrophic and you can't
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  Speaker 5: have those. And so I think that there's almost certainty
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: that there's going to be some sort of turnover. I
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: would imagine a pick at some point in time, because situationally,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: it's going to be where he's been coached and he thinks, Yep,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: this is where I'm pushing it. I'm pushing the envelope
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: right here. I'm gonna fit it in there, and if
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: they make a play on it, so be it. They're
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: a good team for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: You know who asked that question to Mike McDonald. You
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: know that, Nosy prior? Who was it? Mike Sando?
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  Speaker 6: Oh right, you did do that up in our business sandals.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: Why you gotta be like that?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Give me some information they pass along to the people. Jeez,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: like it is any of your business.
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  Speaker 6: Snoopy, come up with your own answers, Sando.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sando's next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
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  Speaker 1: hunts Now with Mike, here's chucking bud happy Conference Championships Sunday.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Mike Sando, You've earned it, buddy, you got here, you
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: did it. I can feel the energy coming off of you,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: even over the phone line. Super excited. Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: I was at the game last week. I'll be there
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  Speaker 13: again this week. It's kind of like old times. You know,
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  Speaker 13: It's been a while since they've had this type of energy,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 13: this type of team playing at home with everything on
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  Speaker 13: the line.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, taking photos with Dave Bowling making the rounds and
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: then asking our head coach about turnover differential? How dare you?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: How dare I asked that?
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  Speaker 13: I don't think I asked him that. I asked a
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  Speaker 13: few questions after the game. I don't think I did
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  Speaker 13: that one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well maybe oh I actually thought it
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: sounded like you So all right, So what is the
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: big topic? Do you think? What is the big issue
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: for rams Seahawks? What's going to determine this outcome on Sunday?
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  Speaker 13: I think the Seattle defense with the home crowd and
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 13: and the offense that doesn't turn it over too much.
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  Speaker 13: I think they can turn it over a little bit,
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  Speaker 13: not too much. So I see this game as one
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  Speaker 13: that Seahawks should win. I believe that the Rams have
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 13: been should be the tireder team that's just piled up
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  Speaker 13: a ton. I think since the last time they played,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 13: the Rams have flown thirteen thousand miles and the Sea
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 13: x are about six thousand. They've played, you know, more games,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 13: they've played super tight, you know, overtime, put.
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  Speaker 1: It all on the line.
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  Speaker 13: I think Seattle is a much more rested team. The
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 13: only thing that would possibly concern me for the Seahawks is,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 13: you know, offensively, if they were to get behind, you know,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 13: and have to pass. I think the Charbonney injury in
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 13: pass protection is a little bit of a thing. So
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 13: you know, the Seal defense would probably still allow a comeback,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 13: but can't get behind too much. And I don't think
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 13: that's going to happen. I think the Sea X are,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 13: you know, the better team. I think they're probably going
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 13: to win the game. I think they have a chance
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 13: to win, pulling away in the second half. So I
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 13: do lean to them pretty strongly. But there is a
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 13: path for the Rams, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: For sure, definitely a path, Sando. I mean, you're talking
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: about the ken Walk part of this was Sharbonnaye.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: You know, blowing his knee out.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, how where do you stand on the idea
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: of like letting of running back eat. I mean, they've
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: tried this running back by committee, which a lot of
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: teams do because it's hard to stay healthy if you've
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: run your guy twenty five thirty times a game, and
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: so now you've got two games you pulled the governor
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: off and you let him go. Do you prescribe or
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: subscribe to the idea of the more carries or running
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: back can get, the better he can kind of get
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: into the flow and just letting him eat.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, probably, I think so. Most backs would say that.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 13: Of course, they all want the ball, so they're a
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 13: little bit biased. But I do think there's something to that.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 13: I think it's been that way for ken Walker this
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 13: year too, just getting work in this offense behind this line.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 13: I thought, you know, I'm not a personnel evaluator, but
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 13: I thought his vision was not good a lot of
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 13: the season, Like, man, doesn't he see this? Doesn't he
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 13: see that? I felt it's been way better, So you know,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 13: something's happened there. I know they've had some changing in
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 13: the change in the coaching room there too with him,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 13: but whatever it is. I think he's gotten more comfortable.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 13: I think more is good for him. And now you
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 13: just need two games. So I don't think I think
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 13: some of that balancing guys out is smart over the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 13: whole course of a season. When you have two guys
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 13: that are good, but we.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Got two games.
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  Speaker 13: Now, it's all hands on deck, right, I mean, give
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 13: him to him forty times if he needs it.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Derek Henry time, it's Otis Anderson time. Just
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: give him those the two tea's. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Mike
• 1:26:23
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• 1:26:25
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• 1:26:28
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• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: pumps out. He joins us every Thursday at this time,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: but not every week is conference championship week? All right?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: So do you give Jarrett stead him a chance to
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: pull this thing off on Sunday? A chance? Yeah?
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  Speaker 13: I think that in one game at home with a
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 13: good but not perfect Patriots team, Sure you give him
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 13: a chance. I think the Broncos have pulled out a
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 13: bunch of games this year. Some of that's been bo
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 13: Nick's run a round, so they're going to lose some
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 13: of that. I think in a one game situation, you
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 13: have a chance with the backup. I think it's harder
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 13: to do over multiple games. I probably lean towards New England.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 13: I think we're gonna have a Seahawk New England rematch
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  Speaker 13: in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: It's not what I want to hear, Sando. Why Because
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a Bronco fan.
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  Speaker 13: So I actually said that, would you better have that
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 13: happen or rather have a forty three to eight?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want that either. I've already told my shoots
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: a gun question.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 13: Choose what are you choosing lose now or just get
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 13: slaughtered in the Super Bowl?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: No, no, neither. I don't want either. I would question.
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  Speaker 5: It's not a horrible question. Uh, sand do stop that
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: with your good questions. Okay, So when it when it
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: comes to I'm going to ask you one more on that.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: What is the most difficult thing about a quarterback stepping
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: in when the situation, when there's this many chips in
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: the pop.
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  Speaker 13: I think it's a when it's a different style of quarterback,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 13: that's a little bit challenging because you when you have
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 13: someone like bon Nix with the ability to run around,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 13: you build your run game off of that too, and
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 13: you know, he becomes a threat as a designed rusher.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 13: I think he had six or seven of those, got
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 13: hurt on one of them. As a bootlegger, right, he's
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 13: super convincing on that could be and then you know,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 13: play action the ability to really move him after that
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 13: and have him be able to scramble. So I think
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 13: your offense does change. The good thing for them is
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 13: that they got that. They knew about it the whole week,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 13: so it's not like, you know, it's a change in
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 13: the first quarter and net Nix goes out. I think that,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 13: you know, is challenging too in a different way. So
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 13: they have a chance, with a really good coach and
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 13: Sean Payton, to have a game plan that works. We've
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 13: seen sid him come in. I remember he played the
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 13: forty nine ers when he was with the Raiders a
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 13: few years ago, and I think he had three hundred
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 13: and sixty yards passing.
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  Speaker 1: The next week. It wasn't like that.
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  Speaker 13: That's why I think, you know, the more games you
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 13: have to do, the harder it is. But for one
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 13: game he.
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  Speaker 1: Can go out there.
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  Speaker 13: He's a veteran who has a commanding type of voice
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 13: and personality. I think he can convince him for a week,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 13: Hey we got this, We're going to go. And I
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 13: think that's why Sean Payton announced it so early. Right
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 13: he could have held an extra press conference Sunday night
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 13: to let everyone know. I think that was for his
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 13: team and for his quarterback, to just say, guys, we're
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 13: not hiding from this.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Mm hm. Why don't we believe in the Patriots?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: I do believe in the Patriots. You do, well, I
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: do believe. It's like a Super Bowl champ. I get
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: that you're picking him to win this game, but it
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: feels like good that the New England area nobody's really bought.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, great turnaround, got the right head coach, and man,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: this young quarterback looks good. But you're not gonna win
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: a super Bowl with this group. Why do we feel
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: that way? Well?
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  Speaker 13: I think that I think this becomes an incremental thing.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 13: Maybe if they win convincingly on Denver, then people will
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 13: say that. I think we for the longest time, we
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 13: didn't think they would even overtake Buffalo. Oow, Buffalo will
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 13: still find it way by the end of the year, right,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 13: and then they beat Buffalo and you're like, well, and
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 13: they keep winning. The fundamentals look really good.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: For them.
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  Speaker 13: I think, though, when you're a team that came into
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 13: the season and everyone thought was a bottom five team
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 13: in the AFC, it takes longer to get the respect.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: So that's probably what that is, you know.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 13: But if they win this Denver game, I think some
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 13: people will give them a chance.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Boy, looking at Mike Sando's ex timeline here, you seem
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: truly fascinated by this Buffalo Bill's Sean McDermott story. So
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about it at this stage?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I know a lot of people were making fun
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 13: of the owner and the GM press conference yesterday for
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 13: them for good reason on some of it. But what
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 13: the owners said to start off resonated with me that
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 13: he went in that locker room and he just saw
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 13: these guys, you know, crying and.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: All that they've had too much to It.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 13: Seems like their losses in these playoffs are all gut punchers.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 13: There's different ways to lose these games, right, Like when
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 13: you lose a Super Bowl with the thrown interception by Seattle,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 13: It's like way worse than if they never completed the
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 13: pass to curse and they just lost the game.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 13: The Bills have had so many of these, and it's
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 13: kind of been their history with the Super Bowl four
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 13: losses and those, and I think you do reach a
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 13: point where you've got to change the channel a little
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 13: bit here. And it doesn't mean that Sean McDermott deserve
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 13: to lose his job and the GM deserve to be promoted.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 13: That's not really what it's about. It's just kind of
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 13: an owner having a feel in that locker room that
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 13: we've got to change this, we need a new direction here.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: And I kind of get it. Yeah, I do too.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it was right, But I
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: also I'm like, I think that I think they had decided,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: if we don't go to the super Bowl, we're going
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: to fire him. But that was with John Harball out
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: there and Kevin Stefanski out there and maybe Matt Lafleur
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: becoming available. Now, it doesn't feel to me, Mike, like
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: they've got a plan. I would think that if you're
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: going to fire a successful head coach, you'd have a plan,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: and it just doesn't feel like they've got one, right, now.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 13: Well, we'll find out if they do have a plan.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 13: I don't think you have to hire the guy who
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 13: has the best resume.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 13: I think you need to do your work and find
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 13: your you know, find your Mike McDonald, you know, find
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 13: your guy that fits well for you. And he doesn't
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 13: have to be somebody one hundred and sixty wins. In
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 13: some ways, they may not need that, they may not
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 13: want that, you know, like if you listen to Terry
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 13: Pagoula and Sean mcneermt or Brandon Bean, they feel like
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 13: they have a good team. Like they're probably not looking
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 13: for someone to come in and fire everybody and.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: Start just fresh, right.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 13: They're probably just looking for a new voice, and so
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 13: they can probably they can find that. Maybe I don't know,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 13: you know, there's Brian Dayball in the next there that
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 13: would be kind of a familiar voice. I don't know
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 13: if that would be the way to go, but they can.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 13: They can get somebody. I still think they can.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they will.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 13: I don't know what their process will be like, but
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 13: they can get somebody. And by the way, they got
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 13: Sean McDermott.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true, Seahawks Patriots that's what you get, that's what
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I got. Okay, all right, Well, enjoy it on Sunday. Uh,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: and then we look forward to previewing the Super Bowl
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: with you for the next couple of weeks. Yeah, it
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: should be fun. All right, great, Thank you, Michael. All Right,
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