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Chaim Bloom Will Take Over Cardinals Baseball Operations in 2026 · Kenny Wallace Media

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The big news is so Heim Bloom will succeed John Mosaic as
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President of Baseball Operations starting in 2026 and will sign a
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five year contract. So that's 20262728 to 9:30,
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right, 678930 So five year contract for Heim Bloom.
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And I think we also knew going in that John Mosaic would not be
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stepping down from his role for 2025 as president of baseball
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operations. We got some people jumping in.
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By the way, let me know if you can hear me.
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Well, I know you can see me. Well, I got the glasses on.
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So this press conference, four people up there, Ali Marmol not
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on the dais, as we like to say. So it's Bill DeWitt, the third
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Cardinals team president, Bill DeWitt junior Cardinals chairman
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and CEO owner, John Mosaic, of course, Cardinals president of
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baseball operations and Heim Bloom, who I don't know exactly
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what his title is going to be for 2025.
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But basically the big news was he will oversee, they called it
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a reset, an overhaul, whatever you want to call it, of the
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Cardinals player development for 2025.
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And then if you're just joining us, Heimbloom taking over as
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president of baseball operations, succeeding John
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Mosaic in 2026 on A5 year contract.
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Some other news, Michael Gersh will now be the VP of special
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projects. So remember before that he was
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the general manager. Now, I don't think I missed
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this, but I don't think they named who would be the other
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general manager. I'm not sure that even matters
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right now. And the press conference just
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ended. So basically MO staying.
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Part of the reason MO is staying on and look, clearly he also
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wants to stay on, but that allows Heim bloom.
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This is the Cardinals, by the way, this is the Cardinal saying
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this. So I'll give my opinion on it in
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a bit. But MO staying on so that Heim
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can really oversee that reset and overhaul in 2025 and really
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focus on that and then he'll be the chief decision maker in
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2026. So couple other highlights here
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before I give my opinion. John Mosaic did say he'd
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anticipate payroll going down for 2025 as they reallocate a
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lot of these resources from the Major League payroll to
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investing in the overhaul of the minor league system.
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Bill DeWitt, the third team present also just 'cause we're
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having fun. Beautiful head of hair now.
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Bill DeWitt the 3rd, right? Beautiful head of hair.
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I did notice that BW3 also said that the the local media
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landscape is a new challenge for them.
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So everybody knows what's going on with, with Bally's and moving
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forward with the Cardinals. Will they control all of that
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television distribution themselves?
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We'll see about that. So there's another thing in
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terms of you're used to getting the checks coming in from
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valleys for the last several years.
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And I, I do think long term, it's better for the Cardinals if
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they're going to own their own deal in terms of streaming and
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television. But for a couple years, you got
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to think that's a pretty heavy investment monetarily.
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BW3 also mentioned he's hoping, as I am as well, that sports
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gambling passes and that could be another positive revenue
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stream for for all the sports franchises in the state,
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including your Saint Louis Cardinals.
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Bill DeWitt Junior, the owner was asked about.
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Basically, this was Derek Gould saying, you know, what kind of
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message was sent by the Cardinals fans not showing up. 3
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million. And it was what it was.
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It was 2.85 million. But there were a lot of no shows
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in there too. Whatever the sold tickets was.
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I mean, there were there were games where only half the people
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actually showed up. And so they'll do it.
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Junior said if he was a fan, he'd actually be excited about
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the future. And sometimes change is good
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little spin cycle there, but I get it.
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And then MO was talking about the fact that they need an
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overhaul in their minor league development.
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And these aren't direct quotes, but I just made some notes here.
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And he said something along the lines of it's not that they
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weren't doing it right from a development standpoint, but just
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that things change. Well, in my opinion, if things
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change, you have to change with them or you have to be ahead of
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the curve. So clearly the Cardinals weren't
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doing things right. If you have to have a major
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overhaul of the entire minor league system here coming up for
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2025 and you're you're admitting that you're going to decrease
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your Major League payroll, which I'm sure fans don't like hearing
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at all. But I want to hear from you guys
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too, because I do think they're finally taking the steps to
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change this. I'm sure, I'm sure the headline
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for fans is, well, why is John Mosaic staying around?
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And I think that's very fair. Why are you allowing the guy who
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who basically is responsible for what happened to the franchise
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the last several years, Why are you letting him stay on to, to
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oversee even for a year this, this big change?
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And look, if they're, if they're decreasing payroll at the Major
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League level, don't you think we've already, we've already
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heard the Katie Wu report that the Cardinals are not expected
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to resign. Paul Goldschman, don't you think
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there's going to be some trades coming?
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I don't know who, but if you're talking about decreasing
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payroll, if you're talking about starting to really build and
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develop around your young core, look, you got option guys like
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Lance Lynn, Kyle Gibson probably not coming back.
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You got to think Eric Fetty's pretty cheap.
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Sonny Gray makes a lot of money, but he's pretty damn good.
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But look at the Nolan Arenado's of the world, $35 million.
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And let's be real, too, when you make a signal to the fan base
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and to the clubhouse that you're really not going to try to win
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all out 2025. And by the way, I don't think
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the Cardinals will be bad in 2025.
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But no one, Arenado is not young.
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So I thought even before this news, Nolan Arenado would
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probably floated out there to his agent that a, it's time to
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maybe move on. And so I wouldn't be shocked at
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all if Nolan Arenado's traded this offseason.
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Now, he's also not super productive.
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He's not bad, don't get me wrong.
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But we're talking about a $35 million contract.
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So I would think the Cardinals would have to eat some salary if
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that's the case. But there's some there's some
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big name, big money guys who probably don't want to be around
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for a rebuild. I'm just speculating here, but I
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would think Arenado, Sonny Gray, we shall see Wilson Contreras,
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we shall see. These guys are all in their 30s,
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mid 30s. Do they want to be around for a
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rebuild? Which by the way, I don't think
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it's going to take that long. I'm I'm excited about the
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Cardinals young position players.
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If you look at 2026, you'd think that's the year that the Quinn
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Matthews, the Tink henses of the world are really ready to
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contribute at the the big league level.
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So all right, I've talked for about 8 minutes here.
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I want to hear from you guys as well.
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But I think the very fair criticism is, well, why is MO
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allowed to stay on and oversee this?
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And, and here's the deal. I've said this a million times.
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I think I'm very fair. I think John Mosaic was very
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good for this organization the 1st 10 years or so.
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The last five to seven years clearly has not been as good.
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There's been a real fall off record wise the last couple
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years and in terms of a real chance of, of making the
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playoffs. And look, if you're basically
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saying here that at the end of John Mosaic's tenure, his his
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final season, essentially that you need to reset, overhaul,
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whatever the word is, your entire minor league development
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situation. Look, John Mosaic is the
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president of baseball operations.
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That right there is a huge indictment of what's been going
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on in the baseball OPS department for the last several
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years. If in this man's final offseason
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and then final season 2025, you have to take monies away from
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the big league payroll and totally, completely overhaul
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your minor league development, I don't know what else you can say
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in terms of how things are going right.
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And that's where, look, I like MO.
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He's been good to me personally. I try to be very fair when he
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says it's not that we weren't doing it right from a
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development standpoint. Well, no, you weren't.
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You weren't doing it right, and that's pretty clear.
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You didn't have the resources allocated you.
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You fell off from that drafting and developing machine that the
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Cardinals were for the 1st 10 years or so.
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And look, Jeff Luno gets a lot of credit, but also John Mosaic
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gets credit. Bill do it.
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Junior gets credit. I gave everybody credit back
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then when the Cardinals were doing really, really well and
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they were churning out Major League players just year after
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year, pitchers, especially starters, relievers.
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That has not been the case the last couple years.
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And then also just in terms of evaluating talent, clearly the
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Cardinals have lost their fastball, pun intended, in terms
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of who to keep, who to trade away.
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When the trade guys, how many? Seems like 8 different
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outfielders have been traded away and then they're good
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somewhere else. And the guys the Cardinals often
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keep, they keep them so long they no longer have any value.
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And you're essentially trading these guys for a bucket of for a
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bucket of baseballs, whether it's Tyler O'Neill, Dylan
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Carlson, whatever it is. I also thought it was
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interesting that Alimar Mole was not there on the dais.
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This was more of a of an ownership front office type
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press conference. I also, I just wonder, I want to
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hear from you fans, is this enough?
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Is this enough substantive change?
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I know you guys are pissed off and you're rightfully so pissed
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off. Is this enough substantive
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change for you to be OK with the direction of the Cardinals with
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MO coming back, even though it's one year they've announced
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Heinbloom. I think Heinbloom being
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announced as the pobo for five years in 2026, I think is
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fantastic news. Coaching staff changes.
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Looks like we're not going to have any, which I think you I
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think you have to basically switch out the the offensive
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coaching staff. Sure seems like Alimar Mole is
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going to be back. I'm not as as mad about that one
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probably as a lot of you guys are.
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Because look, if if you're overhauling the minors in 2025
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and you're not necessarily really going for it from a Major
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League standpoint, does it really matter who your manager
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is, right? I don't think Alimar Mole is
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great. I don't think he's terrible.
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But if you're if you're already setting this whole deal in
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motion for a, for a huge reset really in 2026, the reset is
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starting now at the minor league level, but the reset is really
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starting 2026. That is when Hein Bloom will be
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the chief decision maker. And so then that also gives him
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another year to evaluate Ali, to evaluate the coaching staff.
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Although I just wanted to say I think you should, I think you
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should change out the offensive coaching staff right now
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especially. But Turner Ward was Paul
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Goldsmith's guy and whatever they were doing offensively, not
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working, not working at all. I don't think anybody would
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disagree with that one right there.
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But so I, I don't think it's that big of a deal that Alimar
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Mole is coming back. Now if, if in 2026 Heimbloom
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takes over, he might say, look, I want to start with my own guy.
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And and also look, maybe the Cardinals make some positive
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steps in 2025. Maybe this young core
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offensively starts to blossom. Who knows, with a Mcgreevy, with
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a Graceffo, whoever, whatever happens with a Zach Thompson,
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Andre Polante, you know, maybe, maybe this team isn't that bad
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next year. I don't think the the team is
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going to be that bad, but but could they then get a bigger
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name manager if the team looks like they're potentially in the
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direction to winning in 2026 and you got some guys like Tink
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Hence and Quinn Matthews ready to contribute, You got to think
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those guys are going to contribute a little bit next
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year in 2025. S Look, I've said this a million
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times. I thought I, I didn't think John
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Mosaic necessarily had to step down, but I think announcing
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Heinbloom was great. I would have, I would have
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basically to, to quell fan disappointment, I would have
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said it kind of like, hey, this is going to be a timeshare of
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brain trust between Heimbloom and John Mosaic for 2025.
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I would have said something like that.
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I think that makes the fans a little happier.
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I know you fans want John Mosaic gone all together, most of you,
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a huge percentage. I put it out there on a Twitter
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poll and I know Twitter is not a scientific poll and but look,
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that that's a fairpoint to make if you're going to trade a bunch
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of players, right? Why are you letting John Mosaic
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oversee those trades if he's not going to be there in 2026 if
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Hein Bloom is taking over? And oh, by the way, you don't,
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you don't trust John Mosaic anymore to make those big
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trades. Remember, they already did the
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big the big sell off last year at the trade deadline.
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So these are all really good points questions which I'm
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guessing you're going to have. So I've run my mouth for 15
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minutes. I have about till three O 5.
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So I will go to your guys questions now.
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Here we go. Let's see my guy chiefs 15.
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At least we know the end is near.
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Well, we knew that with MO. I think the most important
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thing, the most important thing is that they announced Heimbloom
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is taking over for five years starting in 2026 and I think
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that's a big positive. This is one of the smartest guys
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in baseball. He was a huge part of the Tampa
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Bay Rays winning at a high level without a lot of resources and
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he basically fell right into your lap right in the middle of
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the succession plan. So I don't I don't know how you
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could be disappointed about that if you're a Cardinals fan.
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Let's see. So heartbeat productions man
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took his notes. That's right, baby, look at
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this. Look at my notes.
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Been looking forward to this five years of Heim where the
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first year he isn't pobo. No, the way I heard it was Heinz
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going to sign a five year contract when he's pobo.
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That's the way I heard it. So that would be 2627282930.
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I'm pretty sure HB cards tone deaf.
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Yeah, I get it. So a lot of you guys think that
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by keeping Mosaic lock, by letting him run the show for one
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more year, it's tone deaf to allow him to oversee this this
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overhaul for the last year. I get it.
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I totally get it. I put this on Twitter earlier.
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HB cards. Good luck selling tickets.
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Yeah, BW3 didn't say they're going to try to spruce things up
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for the the ballpark entertainment aspect of being
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there. I don't know, you guys.
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Tell me, what do you think? I mean, I understand how you
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maybe aren't super happy with 2025.
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Are you not going to come to the ballpark?
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Are you more likely not to come to the ballpark after today's
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news? Right.
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And remember going in, it was essentially reported that John
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Mosaic was not going to lose his job.
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So you tell me. I think at least they're they're
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starting this big overhaul. They're getting the ball
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rolling. I think John Mosaic should have
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either stepped down or taken a different role or also maybe
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just couched couched this situation differently or
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discussed it differently in terms of hey, this is going to
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be a a timeshare between myself and hime for the next year.
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I understand why fans are not happy with John Mosaic being
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around for 2025. I totally get it.
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Let's see Don Farris terrible for the short bus kids.
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They were saying full scale rebuild.
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OK, we don't have to say short bus.
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Come on now, Brett. I'm preparing myself emotionally
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to not getting to see Arenado, Gray, Contreras or even Helsley
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in a Cardinals jersey again. Yeah, I think makes a ton of
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sense to move Ryan Helsley. The reliever market.
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Super volatile guys can be great.
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Guys get injured. He's going to make a ton of
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money next year in arbitration. You're already saying you're
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going to decrease payroll. Why do you need a big name
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closer if you're not going to be all in to win, especially if you
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can get a huge haul for Ryan Helsley?
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I would say it makes total sense, total sense to trade Ryan
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Helsley. I'm still in the camp that it
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didn't make sense for the Cardinals to to sell off at this
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year's trade deadline. You were too close.
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You you had a shot. You have to go for it.
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I understand if you disagree with me.
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I understand you could have got a huge haul for Ryan Helsley a
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couple months ago. But I think after last year it
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still made sense. And look, it was weird because
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the Cardinals played like crap in August.
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They also had a really tough schedule.
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Then they go off in September, they went off in September, beat
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a bunch of good teams. I was there at the end winning
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series against the Guardians. So it wasn't like this team
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didn't have a chance to grab a wild card spot.
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They just look, you had that couple good games, there's some
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some vibes, Eric Fetty, Tommy Pham and then you played a bunch
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of good teams in August, couldn't beat them.
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But then you go on a nice run in September and you finish your
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pretty strong at 83 wins. I'm not saying that's OK, but I
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get why the Cardinals tried to go for a wild card spot at the
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trade deadline and I still think that was the right move.
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Let's see Prezzo, Carter, Much Ado about nothing smoke screens
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all over, let's see Tyler Jarabek.
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Unpopular opinion, but I think letting Bloom focus on resetting
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the development program while MO focuses on building the Major
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League roster is the correct move.
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Yeah, I get that. I understand that.
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I don't. I don't think that's the worst
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thing in the world. Let Heim for one full year
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totally focus on the complete overhaul of the minor leagues.
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But again, if if you're if you're not loving John Mosaic's
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decision making for the last five years or so, what if they
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do trade Gray? What if they trade Helsley?
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What if they trade Arnotto Contreras or a couple of those
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guys, Probably not all, but a couple of those guys.
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Do you want MO making those trades?
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I got to think Heimbloom is going to have a big, a big
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impact in that in that room as well.
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But I get it. I, I said a million times I
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thought John Mosaic should have stepped down.
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I also don't hate this strategy, though.
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I, I think it was a big move. It was a big move announcing
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Heimbloom for me. I'm pretty rational.
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I'm pretty reasonable. I'm OK with it, even though I'll
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say for the 5000 TH time, I thought MO should step down or
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or take a different role. Here we go.
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Tyler Jarabek again. The payroll announcement is a
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bit alarming, probably puts everyone from Gray Arenado
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Contreras to Michaelis and Matt's on the block.
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Yeah, I mean Michaelis and Matt's though, I mean, you have
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to basically you have to eat a lot of salary to move those
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guys. But look, if you want to give
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opportunities, who do you want to see in the rotation next
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year? Let's say you move all the big
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contracts. So let's say you keep Fetty
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around, Fetty's making 7 1/2, although maybe Fetty is a better
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guy to move because the contract is so manageable, you can get
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more prospects in return, right? So next year you want to see
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Palante, Obviously, you want to see Mcgreevy get a look.
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I think it's too early for 10 Kent and Quinn Matthews, but we
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shall see. Then some of these other guys
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that we always hear about, Graceffo, Zach Thompson,
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Libator. Do you want to see Libator get a
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shot in the rotation? Has that ship sailed?
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I guess for next year. Nothing is sailed for next year.
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If you're essentially saying you're not really trying to win,
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then I'm OK if you move some of those big names.
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I'm OK with giving Libator one last shot at the rotation and
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then that's it. And if he doesn't blossom as a
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starter, then just permanently move him to the bullpen.
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If if 2025 doesn't really really matter, let's see, here we go.
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Jeffrey Sawzek. I'm saying under 2.5 million
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tickets sold next year. Yeah, that's definitely a
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possibility. Mt 2330, lol.
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They literally never can admit any mistakes, like ever.
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It's crazy. Yeah, I agree with that.
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I mean, come on, MO MO, when you say it's not that we weren't
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doing it right from a development standpoint, well,
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that's exactly what it was. And you were doing it right back
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in the day. So what?
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You can't have it both ways. You were not doing it right from
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a player development standpoint. That's why you have to totally
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overhaul and reset your entire operations here.
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Come on now. I agree.
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There's one thing to to, you know, be your promo marketing
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department, but also at this point, I, I think we can shoot
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straight with the Cardinals fans, especially after the last
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couple years this week in Missouri politics.
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That's my guy, Scott Fawn. The day they extended Marmol
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last spring, the 24 season was over.
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It was a complete embrace of failure.
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Today, the 25 season is over again, a complete embrace of
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failure. Yeah, I said the whole time.
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I didn't say last year necessarily you had to fire
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Ollie. I was not for the extension.
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And if they move on from Ollie, here's another thing.
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Would Skip Schumacher want this job right now when you're
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starting a full on minor league rebuild?
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We know Skip Schumacher, who loves Saint Louis, but a lot of
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good teams are going to want that guy.
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He's going to be the the hottest free agent manager out there,
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even though he loves Saint Louis, which we know, but he's
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also a California dude, right? And probably the biggest teams
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with the biggest payrolls are going to want this guy.
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We'll see what happens with the playoffs.
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That's the thing. If you could get Skip, would you
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move Ollie to Skip? Want to come here for a rebuild?
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I don't know. We shall see, folks.
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Here we go. Mike at Tyler, who would
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possibly take Matt's or Michaelis.
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They're still arms. I mean, look, people need
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pitching, but they're not going to take that salary.
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You're going to eat a ton of the salary.
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What's Michaelis making 18 1/2? Matt's is AAV is 11.
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I don't know exactly what it is for for next year, but it's
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something. It's something in that realm.
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Let's see Mike at Nathan Rector in that case, it won't help
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decrease payroll much. I think that'll be fascinating
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of who they move again. Maybe Sonny Gray wants to stick
23:33
around for this rebuild. I don't know.
23:38
Michaelis Matts, those guys, they're, they're not good enough
23:41
to really kind of control their destiny right now.
23:44
And it would be nice to open up some spots for some, for some
23:47
young, some younger pitchers. Wilson Contreras, I don't have a
23:51
good vibe on him. And you got no trade clauses for
23:54
some of these guys. I got to think, and I said this
23:57
even before I got to think, Nolan Arenado wants out.
24:01
I think Nolan Arenado right now is kicking himself that he
24:05
didn't opt out couple years ago or at least get more money from
24:10
the Cardinals. I can't believe he didn't opt
24:13
out. And I'm sorry that dude already.
24:15
He worked his way out of Colorado when they were losing.
24:19
You essentially have all of ownership and the front office
24:21
saying right now we're not really trying to win in 2025.
24:25
Again, they won't tank, but Nolan Aronado is how?
24:27
How old is he? Is he 3334?
24:29
Whatever he is, there's no way in hell Nolan Aronado wants to
24:33
stick around. I'm just saying that right now,
24:35
there's no way in hell. I don't care what he says
24:37
publicly. There's no way in hell he he has
24:40
maybe what, 2-3 years left? How old is Nolan Aronado?
24:43
I should know this. Is he like 33?
24:45
I know he's paid for a a few more years here, but I'm sorry,
24:49
there's no way no one Arenado wants to stick around for what's
24:53
going on with the Cardinals. But again, so he's 33, he'll be
24:58
34 next April. His contract is he here for four
25:04
more years? Let me check it here.
25:08
Let me check it peoples. Trying to get you information,
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right, trying to get you some information up-to-the-minute
25:16
salaries, no one Arnato. OK, so three more years.
25:22
So Arnato made 35,000,000 this year.
25:25
He'll make OK. So look, it's not it's not as
25:32
big of money as you thought. 32,000,000 for 202527 million
25:39
for 2020, six, $15 million for 2027.
25:44
So if I add that up, that's 5969, that's 74 million owed
25:48
Nolan Arenado for the next three seasons.
25:52
That's that's less than $25 million AAV.
25:56
And also the Rockies are paying 5 million of that in 25 and 26.
26:02
So look, I was thinking he's making 35,000,000 a year, which
26:06
he was up until this year. So, so look, he's not a $35
26:11
million player anymore, but that's a little more manageable
26:14
in terms of moving, moving that contract.
26:16
So I would think Nolan Arnato is gone.
26:19
If I had to bet money, and I like to bet Nolan Arnato is not
26:22
a Saint Louis Cardinal for 2025. There ain't no way he wants to
26:26
stick around. Here we go.
26:29
Rob Sheehan play the young guys. Gone is Contreras, Goldie, Sonny
26:33
and Nolan. Dump Miles.
26:35
His stuff doesn't play. His ERA is so bad, Tyler, again,
26:40
Michaelis and Matt's aren't going to moves that get us
26:43
anything to help us win immediately or probably even
26:45
down the road. Literally just a salary dump to
26:47
get dead weight off the roster. Yeah, and also give younger guys
26:50
an opportunity. I know you didn't get a huge
26:52
opportunity, but don't you want to at least see?
26:55
Don't you want to see Mcgreevy get an opportunity to start?
26:57
See what you have? Whatever the hell happens with
27:01
Graceffo, I'll repeat myself. I'm OK with Liberatore getting
27:04
one last shot if next year doesn't really matter.
27:08
So space magic Storm. Disappointed in this presser.
27:12
Like glad they're working on the farm system, but disappointing
27:15
nonetheless. My guy.
27:18
Scott, is it just me or did DeWitt seem like a guy in
27:21
another universe? It was just bizarre to see him
27:23
rambling on about how great things are when this team and
27:27
organization is awful. Yeah, I hear you for forgetting
27:33
or or not admitting any type of mistakes.
27:37
And yeah, it did seem like they were really kind of stuck in the
27:40
past, like, hey, this isn't this isn't that big of a deal.
27:44
We weren't doing anything wrong. And they were even asked about
27:47
that. I can't remember who asked them
27:49
about, you know, when did you start to see that you had fallen
27:52
behind, you know, years ago. And and I think it was Bill
27:55
DeWitt, Junior said, well, I wouldn't say it was as many
27:57
years ago as more recent, but look, just go back to some of
28:01
the trades. Ozuna trade, Rosa Raina trade
28:05
and also just all the outfielders not developing all
28:09
these guys, these these top picks in terms of outfielders
28:14
and look, give him credit for Mason Wynn and Alec Burleson and
28:17
large Nuke bar and Brendan Donovan.
28:19
There's a lot of there's a lot of good ones, but again arose
28:23
Arena and I know Dolis Garcia, but Tyler O'Neill and Dylan
28:28
Carlson having to trade those guys with with no value when
28:32
years ago you could have got a haul for those guys.
28:35
Not being able to figure out who's good, who isn't.
28:37
That's what MO used to do really well early on.
28:40
Early on he made no bad trades. Remember even flipping Brett
28:43
Wallace, flipping Brett Wallace essentially for Matt Holiday and
28:47
that was a great move. Brett Wallace didn't turn into
28:49
much, all due respect, but look at what would have happened now.
28:52
Brett Wallace would have been another name thrown in the
28:55
bucket If, if Brett Wallace was a pick three years ago, he would
28:58
have been like the sixth guy that they didn't trade when they
29:02
should have. That stayed forever and then you
29:04
had to trade him for a bucket of balls.
29:06
That would have happened if Brett Wallace was a pick five
29:08
years ago. That's what never happened to
29:10
Mosaic and the Cardinals. What, 15 years ago, 12 years
29:14
ago, 10 years ago, whenever it was Teresa Campbell.
29:19
I've never seen the Cards in a slump like this.
29:23
My guy Gino MO's legacy will be the fact he trashed maybe the
29:27
best player development minor league system under George
29:29
Kissel and brought the team to a point where the major and minor
29:32
leagues are garbage. Yeah, yeah, look again.
29:39
If you need a major overhaul of your entire minor league
29:42
organization in your final year, in your final offseason as
29:46
president of baseball operations, that is a huge
29:49
indictment. There is no other way around
29:52
that. There's really no other way to
29:53
say that. So here we go.
29:57
Prezzo Carter already floating the trade of Walker.
30:00
What? Just a bunch of idiotic behavior
30:02
in this organization. Who's floating that?
30:04
There ain't no way they're trading Jordan Walker.
30:07
Then again, what if Jordan Walker's another one of the
30:09
outfielders that stays too long and never actually turns out?
30:13
I hope to God that's not the case.
30:15
I'm a big Jordan Walker fan. Also, first base Goldie's not
30:19
coming back. Burleson first, Walker.
30:22
Is he an outfielder? Is he a first baseman?
30:24
Long term? Big boy, big dude. 6667 going to
30:29
be about two 65270. I don't know, Mike.
30:33
I don't generally have a big problem with Bill Junior, but I
30:36
disagree with most of what he said today.
30:37
Then again, he's the billionaire, not me.
30:40
Hey, just because he's a billionaire doesn't mean that
30:43
he's always right. And again, like there was a lot
30:45
of marketing up there. Let's be real about that.
30:48
There was a lot of marketing. There's a lot of promotions.
30:50
There was a lot of PR is the word I'm looking for.
30:53
There's a lot of public relations going on.
30:55
I agree with the earlier commenter who said this team
30:59
just refuses to admit mistakes. Even with this whole press
31:02
conference and Heimbloom and everything is a huge admission
31:07
of the mistakes you made for the past 5-7 years that really came
31:12
out at the big league level the last couple years.
31:14
But yes. And they were, they weren't even
31:16
really admitting that, right? They were tap dancing around
31:20
that. And oh, you know, it's not that
31:21
we didn't do things right. And oh, it's only been a couple
31:23
years. No, it's it's been a, it's been
31:25
a downward trend for several years, for several years.
31:29
But the Cardinals were also so good years ago.
31:33
I'm talking that 11 to 15 run even when a lot of these other
31:36
guys left, you know, however much you want to allocate what
31:40
Luno was responsible for and he was really good, let's be real.
31:43
But the My Link system was so good that they were good for
31:46
another five years, whatever it was, because so many guys were
31:50
in place. And you had Yachty staying here
31:51
for 20 years. You had Adam Wainwright staying
31:54
here for for 20 years. You had Matt Carpenter for a
31:57
long time. You had a lot of guys that that
31:59
stuck around for a long, long time.
32:03
Let's see. Tyler Jarabek Gersh is VP of
32:06
Halfway Out the Door. Yeah, that that sounded like it
32:10
sounded like a demotion. Gersh, VP of special projects.
32:14
So we'll see if they name a general manager this year.
32:17
I don't know if it really matters.
32:18
You know, back in the day, the general manager was the chief
32:20
decision maker. Now it's the president of
32:22
baseball operations. I didn't hear anything about
32:25
Randy Flores, so we'll see what happens there.
32:30
Josh Humphreys. It was all Jeff Luno.
32:32
And I'd rather have Goldie back than MO and Ollie.
32:35
Yeah, look, Jeff Luno was huge. I still give, I give MO a lot of
32:38
credit. You gotta give everybody a lot
32:40
of credit back in the day. But Jeff Luno surely gets a lot
32:42
of it. But I'm not this person that's
32:45
now doing revisionist history and saying MO wasn't good for a
32:47
long time. And I think MO was good for a
32:50
long time. And even if he had good
32:51
lieutenants underneath them, right?
32:53
I mean, give credit to him and the Cardinals and the Dewitt's
32:56
and Jacketies for having all those people in place and
32:59
listening to them. Also, Brendan Fauci, I don't
33:04
understand why both Ollie and Moore are sticking around.
33:06
It's almost like they hate this city and don't listen to 90% of
33:09
their customers, The fans. Again, I'm not, I'm not real
33:13
mad. I'm not mad at all about the
33:15
Ollie thing, just because I think if you want to move on
33:19
from the manager, you do it in 2026, right?
33:22
I mean, who are you going to get?
33:23
Who are you going to get to sign up for this rebuild?
33:26
Unless it's Skip. I would I would move on for Skip
33:30
if I'm skip, I don't want to be a part of this rebuild if I have
33:33
big, big winning franchises, big payrolls, big contenders, teams
33:38
that are much closer to contention in the Cardinals to
33:41
win a World Series or run deep. I got Gino again.
33:46
Shield was the last Kissel disciple and tried to save this
33:48
organization, but MO clearly can't see the forest for the
33:51
trees. Is it for the trees or through
33:53
the trees? I never know that one.
33:55
And fired him because he wasn't a yes man.
33:57
Yeah, I think there's some truth to that as well.
34:01
Look, I I think Schilt, you know, you heard some reports of
34:04
some treatment of staff, but also I think I think Schilt was
34:08
always seen as the low level guy.
34:11
You know, I've heard other people talk about this some
34:13
sometimes they say you never want to, you never want to stay
34:16
with the company you were an intern with because people will
34:19
always look at you as the intern, right?
34:21
Schulte was always the minor league guy, lucky, happy to be
34:25
there, never played in the bigs, not a lot of experience.
34:27
Then he started to win and then he gets to the major leagues,
34:29
just happy to be the manager. Then he wins, gets some
34:32
playoffs, Manager of the year, NLCS.
34:35
He thought he had some juice in the organization.
34:37
He didn't because it was MO's way or the highway.
34:41
And look, there's more to that story, but how does it look now?
34:45
It looks like Schulte's in a better spot for sure, as the
34:48
Padres go to the playoffs in the Cardinals.
34:51
Do not for the second straight year.
34:54
I asked this earlier, Is this enough?
34:56
Not at all. Yeah, I get that.
34:58
I get that. It's just enough for me.
35:01
I'm not going to go crazy. But I I'll say for the eight
35:03
thousandth time, I think John Mosaic should have stepped
35:07
aside. But I don't hate what they're
35:10
doing. The Heimbloom succession plan I
35:13
love. If you're going to have to
35:15
overhaul the miners, let Heim do it.
35:18
But also, if you don't trust John Mosaic to make these big
35:21
trades and big decisions in the last year, let's let Heim bloom
35:24
and let's let the brain trust all jump in there and have it be
35:27
a collective. OK, here we go, Tyler.
35:32
Again, another unpopular opinion, but I don't think Ali
35:35
was the problem this year. The offense completely
35:37
underperformed and I know the record of the last two years
35:39
falls on him, but his game management wasn't bad.
35:42
Yeah, he was not the main issue. That's why I would I would get
35:46
rid of the offensive coaching staff over Ollie.
35:49
I would say, look, let's let's see if some new voices, some new
35:53
eyes offensively. What were they there?
35:56
OPS was like, we looked this up there today.
35:59
Was it like 20th or 22nd or 23rd, something like that,
36:02
Whatever it was, So bottom quartile or bottom third.
36:05
But runners in scoring position, they were just atrocious,
36:08
absolutely atrocious. And they started the year so
36:10
bad. They dug themselves such a hole.
36:13
That was the big part of this year.
36:14
The offense sucked so bad in the first month and it was like the
36:18
whole team was in a slump and nobody could get could get out
36:21
of it right. Where's the coaching staff to
36:23
help get these guys out of it? That did not take place.
36:26
And that's one of the the big reasons you were basically
36:28
trying to claw your way back for the whole season.
36:31
You had the good month or so, what good two 2 1/2 weeks in
36:34
May. Then you had this nice stretch
36:36
at the end of the season in September when it really didn't
36:38
matter, let's be real. But the rest of the season
36:41
pretty mediocre or or bad, as we discussed the early part of the
36:45
season, how can you not fire Turner Ward from Josh Humphries?
36:50
I agree with that one, especially since he was Goldie's
36:52
guy and Goldie's not coming back.
36:55
But again, I guess, I guess if we're being fair, I don't want
37:00
to say does it really matter? But if 2026 is the year that
37:04
Heim Bloom really takes over, then he'll want to bring in
37:08
potentially his own manager or or keep these guys, bring in a
37:12
new manager with a new coaching staff.
37:15
So do you bring in a whole new coaching staff for Ali and then
37:18
you get rid of those guys If Heim Bloom wants to make a
37:20
change, This is baseball, it's the big leagues.
37:23
It could happen, but I don't know, I, I would have moved on
37:28
from the offensive staff. I would have had John Mosaic
37:32
step aside and say it's going to be a, it's going to be a brain
37:36
trust between between him and Hein Bloom.
37:39
Ollie, I'm OK with, I get it that you guys aren't.
37:42
But again, I, I think, I think the big change maybe comes the
37:46
big change on the field management.
37:49
I'm talking about the field manager coaching staff that may
37:53
likely happen in 2026 or before 2026 if Heimbloom is not love in
37:58
the direction of of that staff and Ollie so on and so forth.
38:03
Here we go. Mike.
38:04
I'm not even a little surprised that nothing will change to fix
38:07
2025. Yeah, I get that the Cardinals,
38:09
the Cardinals are always slow. This this ownership group
38:12
Mosaic, they're they're very slow to change.
38:15
And even here, even when it's so obvious that you're making a
38:19
huge change for 2026, they still essentially are slow playing it
38:24
this offseason in 2025. By by allowing John Mosaic to
38:29
stick around. The guy who oversaw the fact
38:32
that you got into this situation in the 1st place where you feel
38:35
the need to reset the entire minor league organization and
38:38
you're letting him stick around for one more year to make top
38:42
level decisions. That does not make a lot of
38:45
sense. Brendan Fosche, Why do they do
38:49
the same things that don't work and expect a different result?
38:53
I have to go because I have to pick my kids up.
38:55
Thank you for watching. We had like 300 of you
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concurrently watching. Let me see, I, I bet you we had
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over. Could it be over 1000 or is that
39:05
too many? What do you think?
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We had 300 people watching at once.
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Let's see what we had here. Let's see what we had here.
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We had 14120 people, 14120 views the last 60 minutes.
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That's pretty good. So thank you guys.
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Thanks for all the measured takes.
40:37
Most people are just extreme doom and gloom and others are
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just tools. You are in the middle, which is
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I mean, there's dozens of you guys that I did not get to.
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Here we go, Brian, Charlie, keep the birds feet to the fire.
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Look at this. Hold on.
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Even if you're joking. Thank you.
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Maybe you're not. Maybe.
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Hey, maybe you did. Maybe you got a loan.
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Maybe you opened up retail banking over there.
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Whatever it is. OK, here I'll read a couple
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more. Mitchell Sharp.
41:33
I disagree that any of what was announced as a big move.
41:36
They're changing titles. Why should we believe anything
41:39
is going to change? Yeah, I get that for 2025, big
41:41
changes for 2026. We'll see if they make changes
41:45
for 2026 with with the manager coaching staff.
41:48
We'll see how it goes in 2025. I hear ya.
41:51
I wanted a little bit more. I get it if you guys did too but
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