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'Killer fiance' wants custody for tot-girl of fiance HE KILLED, Kelsey Berreth; PLUS: Texas teacher tries to sell girl online to sex trade [Cops] · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: dot com Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. From what I
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  Speaker 1: can gather, I believe she really cared for Patrick, but
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  Speaker 1: I also think she was afraid. Crystal Lee, a longtime
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  Speaker 1: friend of Patrick Frazy heads to Colorado as recently as November.
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  Speaker 1: According to Patty, the two have known each other a while,
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  Speaker 1: even owning horses together. She had known him since she
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  Speaker 1: was about eighteen years old, right out of high school.
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  Speaker 1: I think he had some type of hold on her.
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  Speaker 1: The Rockstalls say on Crystal's last trip to Colorado, Michelle
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  Speaker 1: begged her best friend not to go because she was
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  Speaker 1: worried about Crystal. She was very concerned that she was
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  Speaker 1: going to meet someone that had had asked her to
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  Speaker 1: murder someone. The rock Stalls claimed. Their employee said, Phrasey
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  Speaker 1: threatened Lee, and she may have helped him dispose of evidence.
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  Speaker 1: But I think she got in over her head, and
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  Speaker 1: I think she maybe used some bad judgment. But if
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  Speaker 1: I were afraid for myself from my children, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what I would do. What would you say to
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey's mom right now? If you could talk to her.
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  Speaker 1: I am going to talk to her. I'm gonna tell
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  Speaker 1: her she was a brave woman and I hope some
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  Speaker 1: day her daughters remains hurts at home to their family.
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  Speaker 1: And if you could speak to Patrick, it wouldn't be good. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear that conversation between the woman
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  Speaker 1: of the hero couple who exposed the so called killer
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  Speaker 1: fiance Patrick Phrasey's murder plot about how he planned to
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  Speaker 1: have Kelsey Bareth killed. But as apparently this couple knew
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  Speaker 1: about the murder plot a full month before Kelsey Beareth.
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  Speaker 1: A gorgeous young Colorado mom of a little one year
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  Speaker 1: old girl, Kelly, they knew about it a month before
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey was murdered, but said nothing. I Nancy Grace, this
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  Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. After
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  Speaker 1: the FBI announced a twenty five thousand dollar reward three
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  Speaker 1: full weeks after missing mom Kelsey disappeared. As of right now,
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  Speaker 1: her body has never been found. Then they came forward,
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  Speaker 1: But could they have thwarted a murder? Joining me Karen Smith,
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  Speaker 1: forensics expert, juvenile judge and lawyer. You can find for
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  Speaker 1: it Ashley Wilcot dot com for now, forensic psychiatrist, doctor
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Bober, Alan Duke in La Jackie Howard in the studio,
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  Speaker 1: Joining me right now, syndicated host David matt So, tell
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  Speaker 1: me about this couple, this so called hero couple who
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  Speaker 1: exposed the killer fiance Patrick phrases and murder plot. Who
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  Speaker 1: are these people? Yeah, Nancy, the shocking part about this
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  Speaker 1: you already mentioned that they knew about it a month beforehand.
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  Speaker 1: This couple knew, they knew everybody involved. Here the girl,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're getting information about the former girlfriend, a
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend that this man had at the age of eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: her first love. That they said that he had some
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  Speaker 1: kind of hold on her and made her believe that
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  Speaker 1: maybe he had even killed before threatening her children. They
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  Speaker 1: actually have a relationship. The dates back many many years,
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  Speaker 1: but it continued on even after the first girlfriend was married,
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  Speaker 1: had kids, got divorced. This couple doesn't come forward with
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  Speaker 1: information for a full month until there's a twenty five
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars reward. I would take the word hero off
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  Speaker 1: their name. We are talking about a couple who sits
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  Speaker 1: down for a series of interviews with KMVT TV, and
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  Speaker 1: that's who you were just hearing k m VTTV there
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  Speaker 1: in Idaho, and they say that their employee, Michelle told
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  Speaker 1: them back in October her best friend Crystal Lee, was
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  Speaker 1: asked by a man to kill the mother of his child.
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  Speaker 1: They did not contact police then or on November twenty
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  Speaker 1: six Thanksgiving when Kelsey Bareth goes missing. It was December
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  Speaker 1: seventeen that they shared their information with the FBI, one
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  Speaker 1: day after a twenty five thousand dollar reward was first offered,
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  Speaker 1: a full month after Bareth was last seen. Okay, what
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  Speaker 1: does this mean? I want to go straight out to
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott, juvenile judge and lawyer. I mean, I'm happy
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  Speaker 1: they came forward, but what do you make of the delay? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any tolerance for the delay. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be really honest and frank you know that I
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  Speaker 1: work a lot on prevention of crimes, specifically with children,
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  Speaker 1: but in terms of prevention of crimes against anyone. If
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  Speaker 1: you know something, if you've heard something, even if you think,
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  Speaker 1: oh that can't be true, Oh they're not going to
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  Speaker 1: do it, you have got to come forward. Coming forward
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  Speaker 1: after the fact did nothing to protect this mother. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm now, I am very concerned. So your
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  Speaker 1: friend has twenty four hours to go to the police
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  Speaker 1: or I'm calling them. Patty Rockstall delivered this ultimatum on
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  Speaker 1: November twenty sixth for her employee Michelle to pass along
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  Speaker 1: to Crystel after she saw a Facebook post about a
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  Speaker 1: missing Colorado mom that sounded familiar. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: she didn't if she was scared. That's what got reported
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  Speaker 1: back to me that she had gone to the police.
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  Speaker 1: On November twenty seventh, Patty learned Crystal got a new
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  Speaker 1: phone number and was told she had in fact spoken
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  Speaker 1: with law enforcement. I didn't know till almost two weeks
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  Speaker 1: later that she hadn't. Then on December seventeenth, Patty contacted
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  Speaker 1: the Colorado Your Investigations. Michelle immediately called Cristel to let
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  Speaker 1: her know, but she wasn't surprised the FBI was at
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  Speaker 1: Crystal's house. They had had a search warrant, and they
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  Speaker 1: were someone of the FBI was at her property, and
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  Speaker 1: so she knew that Michelle would more than likely get
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  Speaker 1: called because there were so many phone calls and text
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  Speaker 1: messages back and forth. In fact, some about this incident,
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  Speaker 1: the Rockstalls say the two are as close as sisters,
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  Speaker 1: but Michelle was not involved in Kelsey's presumed death, and
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  Speaker 1: she didn't go with Crystal anywhere to Colorado or anything.
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  Speaker 1: She just listened to her friend. Despite threats and several
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  Speaker 1: weeks of stress. Patty says she doesn't regret making that call.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough for everyone. It's been a very emotional situation.
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  Speaker 1: We've all lost some sleep over this, but I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: nothing compared to Kelsey's family. You are hearing from the
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  Speaker 1: couple that comes forward to claim that they know for
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  Speaker 1: a fact that the so called killer fiance Patrick Phrase's
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  Speaker 1: murder plot included asking his girlfriend to commit murder, but
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  Speaker 1: they knew about it a month before her death. Now,
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  Speaker 1: according to this couple, they never accepted any reward. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's true or not, but that's what
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  Speaker 1: they say. The reality is, aske you Wilcott, you may
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  Speaker 1: know about a crime and say nothing, not warn anyone,
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  Speaker 1: and you are not at fault. Sure, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: You may know and not warn anybody, but there's a
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  Speaker 1: difference between not warning and not being at fault versus
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  Speaker 1: being complicit in the crime, two different scenarios. To doctor
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Bober forensic psychiatrists, there are any number of reasons
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  Speaker 1: people don't come forward to report crimes or report hearing
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  Speaker 1: about a crime that hasn't even taken place yet. There
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  Speaker 1: could be a myriad of reasons they said nothing sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean some of them are more noble and some
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  Speaker 1: of them are more corrupt, like greed. So yes, there's
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  Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. Straight back to Dave Mack, syndicated
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  Speaker 1: talk show host and joining us. Apparently this couple knew
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  Speaker 1: full well that Patrick Frasy planned to kill his fiance
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  Speaker 1: weeks for her death. So much happening right now in
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  Speaker 1: the case, Dave Matt, what more can you tell me
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  Speaker 1: about the investigation regarding Kelsey Barrett and the possible recovery
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  Speaker 1: of her body At this point, right now, we still
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  Speaker 1: only have what we've been told in terms of like
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  Speaker 1: the cell phone being found in Idaho, we know that
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  Speaker 1: Christal Lee was the one who probably did that. They
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  Speaker 1: still have yet to uncover a body, but they've got
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  Speaker 1: plenty of evidence indicating that she's no longer alive, which
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  Speaker 1: is why they've made the charges the way they are.
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  Speaker 1: We're still a waiting word on the investigators and what
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  Speaker 1: they're looking for and where they're looking for the body.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at daily Mail TV.
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  Speaker 1: Three months that's how long investigators say Kelsey Barrett's fiance
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  Speaker 1: had been plotting her murder. Patrick Frazie, who was formally
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  Speaker 1: charged with five felonies, was allegedly looking for someone to
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  Speaker 1: take out the mother of his infant daughter. Patrick Frazie
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  Speaker 1: was handcuffed with shackles around his ankles as he entered court.
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  Speaker 1: Frazie remained silent as he heard the charges against him,
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  Speaker 1: two counts of first degree murder and three counts of
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  Speaker 1: solicitation commit murder in the first degree. Investigators have two
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  Speaker 1: different theories of his alleged crime. One theory claims Phrasy
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  Speaker 1: intended to deliberately kill his fiance, twenty nine year old
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey Barrett. The other says she was murdered as part
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  Speaker 1: of a robbery. All facts in this case or undersealed,
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  Speaker 1: so I cannot talk to you about any potential motives
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  Speaker 1: in this case. There potentially could be other people arrested.
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  Speaker 1: According to court documents, prosecutors believe Phrasie tried to hire
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  Speaker 1: someone to kill Barrett between September first and November first,
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. She's lived off Lake Avenue for years, sharing
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  Speaker 1: cordial conversation even family stories with Kelsey Barrett. She's an
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  Speaker 1: awesome person. She's so kind and so you could tell
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  Speaker 1: she's a very kindhearted person. The neighbor didn't want us
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  Speaker 1: showing her face or using her real name to prevent
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  Speaker 1: excess attention, but she offers new details on activity at
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey's home Thanksgiving Day. What do you remember seeing Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: Day just up the road here? I looked up there
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  Speaker 1: and there was both red pickups up there Thanksgiving Day,
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  Speaker 1: and that was from about twelve thirty to one. She
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  Speaker 1: says she never saw anybody, but the information aligns with
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  Speaker 1: what Phrasey told police Thereugh his attorney saying he picked
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  Speaker 1: up their daughters sometime Thanksgiving Day. The safeway surveillance video
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  Speaker 1: includes a twelve oh five timestamp, meaning the truck would
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  Speaker 1: have arrived shortly thereafter the other two cars were parked
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  Speaker 1: with the vehicles facing the apartment, but his was parked
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  Speaker 1: sideways behind him. The neighbor says it's the same chunk
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  Speaker 1: she's seen the last two years driven by a man
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  Speaker 1: picking up and dropping off of baby. And when I
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  Speaker 1: showed her video of Phrasie's truck towed off his property Friday,
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  Speaker 1: she says, it looks the same. Speaking of the baby,
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  Speaker 1: what you're hearing right there was KOAA News five didn't
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  Speaker 1: reporter Sam Kramer reporting about how the neighbor saw the
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  Speaker 1: same red pickup truck she had been saying forever all
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  Speaker 1: about picking up and dropping off the baby. Was that baby?
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  Speaker 1: A one year old little girl, Keiley, at home at
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  Speaker 1: her mother of Kelsey Bear's town home when mommy was
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  Speaker 1: killed At this hour, still no clue as to where
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  Speaker 1: Mommy's remains are. Here's the big drama. Can the killer fiance,
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Phrasey, who was having at least one affair behind
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey's back, can he obtain custody of that little baby?
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  Speaker 1: What does it take to terminate parental rights? Right now?
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  Speaker 1: The mother of killer fiance Patrick Frasy has filed for
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  Speaker 1: custody of the baby to take the baby away from
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey's parents, and this went down just days after hers
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  Speaker 1: done was charged with murdering the baby's mom. Kelsey Barra
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  Speaker 1: to ask you, Wilcot juvenile judge and lawyer, you can
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  Speaker 1: find her, Ask you Wilcot dot com. What do you
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  Speaker 1: make of it? How can his parental rights be terminated?
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  Speaker 1: And will they so? Parental rights can be terminated in
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  Speaker 1: instances under laws throughout each state in which a child
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  Speaker 1: is number one at risk with the parent and number two.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't done any of the things to actually overcome
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  Speaker 1: those risks or rehabilitate so that they can properly parent
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  Speaker 1: their child. So if a child's without the proper parental control,
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  Speaker 1: care and supervision and that person cannot correct behaviors in
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  Speaker 1: order to provide for the child, rights can be terminated.
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  Speaker 1: And in this particular case, these different allegations, if proven,
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  Speaker 1: if there's a conviction, our grounds for termination and portal rights.
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  Speaker 1: In most states. Here's the thing. There's got to be
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  Speaker 1: hearing to terminate parental rights, and the standard of proof
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  Speaker 1: at that hearing is clear and convincing. It's not beyond
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  Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt. You can lose parentlel rights because you
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  Speaker 1: abandon your child. You can lose parental rights because you
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  Speaker 1: neglect them and don't care for them. You can lose
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  Speaker 1: parental rights because you commit a violent act which according
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  Speaker 1: to police, he has. What effect, if any, does that
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  Speaker 1: have on the baby? Take a listen to our friends.
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  Speaker 1: CBS reporter Maria Villareal reporting the last time Kelsey was
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  Speaker 1: saying alive. One of the last places the young mother
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  Speaker 1: was seen was on Thanksgiving Day at a safe way
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  Speaker 1: in Woodland Park, Colorado, wearing a white shirt, gray sweater
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  Speaker 1: and blue pants. If she's out there doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be contacted, just let us know that she's safe and
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  Speaker 1: her family knows. Barrett was reported missing on December second.
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  Speaker 1: Woodland Park Police Commander Chris Adams says a few days
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  Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, her cell phone pained nearly eight hundred miles
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  Speaker 1: away outside good In, Idaho, not far from where she
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  Speaker 1: has family. Dear God, please keeps the family of Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: Barrett in your heart and soul. In Washington State, where
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  Speaker 1: some of Barrett's family lives, a vigil was held by
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  Speaker 1: her brother in law, Brandon Kendall. If they see her anywhere,
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  Speaker 1: please please say something. That family can have no peace.
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  Speaker 1: While the so called killer fiance, Patrick Phrasey, is charged
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  Speaker 1: with Kelsey's murder, her body has never been found. This
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  Speaker 1: it's what we know, Karen Smith. If in fact he
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  Speaker 1: did plan this murder months ahead of time, he intentionally
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  Speaker 1: deprived baby Keelly of her mother and possibly murdered Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: Barrett there in her own town home with the child
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  Speaker 1: in the home, Let's talk about forensics. Where is Kelsey's body.
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  Speaker 1: The biggest clue we have is that her phone, her
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  Speaker 1: cell phone pink eight hundred miles away good in Idaho, coincidentally,
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  Speaker 1: just a few miles away from his mistress lives. What
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  Speaker 1: do you make of it, Karen, And what does that
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  Speaker 1: have to do with the location of her remains. It
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  Speaker 1: may have nothing to do with the location of her remains.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she may still be in Colorado, she may
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  Speaker 1: be between Colorado and Idaho. You know, there's no telling
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  Speaker 1: what happened to her after she was killed. We also
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  Speaker 1: don't have a cause of death. We have no information whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: We know the matter of death. It's homicide. That's about it.
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  Speaker 1: So it is a huge, wide swath. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: take all of these law enforcement agencies working in contingency,
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  Speaker 1: making sure that they do information sharing anything that they find.
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  Speaker 1: And I have no doubt they're going to find her eventually,
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  Speaker 1: and that's going to tell a whole lot more of
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  Speaker 1: a story. Well, let's talk about it. You say, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know cause of death, but we do know this.
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  Speaker 1: We know that when the brother went into Kelsey Bears
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  Speaker 1: town home, he saw nothing amiss. Her suitcases were there.
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  Speaker 1: All that was missing was her cell phone. I think
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  Speaker 1: possibly her purse. This was a flight instructor. She's very
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  Speaker 1: well organized. The home was in perfect order. He saw
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  Speaker 1: no evidence of a crime. But then when cops zero
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  Speaker 1: in on her town home after the neighbor says she
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  Speaker 1: sees Phrase's red pickup himming in Kelsey's two cars, they
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  Speaker 1: go in for a forensic investigation and what was invisible
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  Speaker 1: to the naked eye suddenly is visible and they say
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  Speaker 1: they think she died there. Now, doesn't that give you
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  Speaker 1: an indication of the cause of death, Karen Smith, forensic's expert,
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  Speaker 1: or if it was invisible to the naked eye, but
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  Speaker 1: they found it, I'm thinking probably luminal or an ultimate
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  Speaker 1: light source maybe have cleaned up crime scene. That's my
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  Speaker 1: first hunch. If they found evidence of any blood letting,
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  Speaker 1: now we're getting closer to a more violent type of death.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully if that's what they found, it gave them
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  Speaker 1: some good clues as to what he may have done
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  Speaker 1: to her exactly. I'm thinking about the process of using
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  Speaker 1: luminol to find blood invisible to the naked eye, and
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  Speaker 1: that home was in order. Take a listen again to
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  Speaker 1: CBS's Maria Billireale. Online, thousands are following a Facebook page
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  Speaker 1: dedicated to the search that's regularly posting pictures and updates
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  Speaker 1: on her case. Her brother traveled to Colorado to help
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  Speaker 1: find her, posting. After arriving at Kelsey's house and combing
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  Speaker 1: through her things, we know one thing is certain. Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: did not pack to go anywhere. All luggage is here,
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  Speaker 1: Her purse is all that seems to have gone. Barrett's
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  Speaker 1: cars are still in Colorado, and police tell me they
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  Speaker 1: have searched her home for clues and are working closely
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  Speaker 1: with her family to learn more about her, including her
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  Speaker 1: life on social media and anyone she's been in contact with.
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  Speaker 1: So now we learn, is there a possibility that the
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  Speaker 1: killer fiance Patrick Frasy, is going to mount a legal
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  Speaker 1: challenge and maintain custody. I don't know how he can
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  Speaker 1: do that behind bars of his one year old baby girl, Killy,
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  Speaker 1: after he, according to police, killed her mother. To doctor
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Bober forensic psychiatrists, what effect will this have on
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  Speaker 1: this little baby as she grows up, She's lost her mom,
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  Speaker 1: still doesn't have her remains to bury her mom and
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  Speaker 1: dad's behind bars. You know, Nancy, when I think about
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  Speaker 1: this case, I think about O. J. Simpson. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he was acquitted and having to go through child custody
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  Speaker 1: issues with his own kids. So obviously the effect of
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  Speaker 1: losing their mother and just this whole situation would would
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  Speaker 1: just be profound. Straight out to Dave Max, syndicated talk
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  Speaker 1: show host, what is happening now in the what are
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  Speaker 1: joint investigation by Freestone and mcclennan County Deputies who specialize
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: in trafficking Parker was arrested at her home early Wednesday morning,
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  Speaker 1: just hours after she returned from a solo trip to Morocco.
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  Speaker 1: This is Amber Parker, and I want to tell you
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  Speaker 1: about the most beautiful time of my life is far.
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  Speaker 1: A man named yusefh Dirky says he created this video
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of Parker's visit and says she came for love, not
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: for trafficking, and I love this man for the latter
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: stars in all their heads. Jerky says the video is
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: proof Parker is innocent. However, in another twist, Parker has
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a husband intigue. According to documents, mister Parker says a
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: year ago his wife told him she was going to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: become a member of a cult called Wicca. He says
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: she created a fake Facebook page to secretly communicate with
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  Speaker 1: strange men associated with the organization. We found the profile
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: where Parker disguises herself as Zoe Singer. One photo posted
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: says don't try to figure me out. I'm a special
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: kind of twisted and another as a witch. I have
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: three sides, the quiet and sweet side, the fun and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: crazy side, and the side you never want to see. Well,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I wish she had kept that side to herself. A
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Texas teacher allegedly tried to sell a little girl dressed
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  Speaker 1: in lingerie on line for sects in Morocco. A Texas
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  Speaker 1: teacher Amber Michelle Parker, I, Nancy Grace, this is crime stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. You know what, every
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: day I dropped the twins off at school because I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: love their teacher. I love her. I guess that's what
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: all the other moms thought in this class. A Texas
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  Speaker 1: teacher goes online, dresses a little girl up in lingerie
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  Speaker 1: and tries to sell her for sex with men in Murrocco.
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  Speaker 1: This is a junior high school teacher in central Texas.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I want to go straight out to Alan joining us
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  Speaker 1: from La Allen. It's it's a little more than I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: can take in. They're right right under our noses. They're
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in Freestone County. A junior high school teacher trying to
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  Speaker 1: sell a little girl dressed in lingerie online? What well?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And she teaches reading that. I mean that's her. And
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's a small town. I mean, everybody knew this woman.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: She could not hide their only eight thousand people in
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: this little town. I'm looking at the schools. Mahaea, Mahea Texas, Mahea,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the schools her page on the school's website.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this picture, but she
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: just looks like a reading teacher, an eighth grade reading teacher,
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  Speaker 1: and not a sex trafficker trying to send a little
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: girl to Morocco. This is really shocking. And by the way,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I might add, we always say human trafficking is next
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: door to you and in every small town, including this
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: little one in Texas. You know, it's just more than
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I can take in this eighth grade reading teacher, age
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven, trying to sell an underage girl into sex
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: slavery in Morocco, even posting lurid photos of the little
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: girl online. I'm talking about Amber Michelle Parker. Amber Michelle Parker,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: an eighth grade reading teacher accused of conspiring to lure
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the child to Morocco so she Amber Michelle Parker can
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: sell her to man after man after man. It's apparent
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: that she posted photos online of the little girl exposing
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: her chest. Now, Amber Michel Parker, the eighth grade reading teacher,
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  Speaker 1: traveled to Morocco alone in December, and what you were
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: hearing earlier, Let's take a Listen to that again, Jackie.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You hear her talking about her trip to Morocco for
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: love and what a wonderful, loving experience it was. She
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: was paving the way to sex traffic a little girl.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Listen to her again. In a joint investigation by Freestone
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and McLennan County deputies who specialized in trafficking, Parker was
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: arrested at her home early Wednesday morning, just hours after
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: she returned from a solo trip to Morocco. This is
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Aber Parker, and I want to tell you about the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: most beautiful time of my life is far. A man
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: named Yusef Dirky says he created this video of Parker's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: visit and says she came for love, not for trafficking,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and I love this ran for the terve stars in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: all their heads. Jerky says the video is proof Parker
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: is innocent. However, in another twist, Parker has a husband intigue.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: According to documents, mister Parker says a year ago his
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: wife told him she was going to become a member
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: of a cult called Wicca. He says she created a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: fake Facebook page to secretly communicate with strange men associated
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: with the organization. We found the profile where Parker disguises
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: herself as Zoe Singer. One photo posted says don't try
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to figure me out. I'm a special kind of twisted,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and another as a witch. I have three sides, the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: quiet and sweet side, the fun and crazy side, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the side you never want to see. Yeah, I wish
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I had never seen it, but sadly we are joining
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  Speaker 1: me Doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned LA side analyst, Karen Smith,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: forensics expert, joining us out of the Florida jurisdiction. Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: felony Prosecutor Kenya Johnson, of course, Alan Duke joining me
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  Speaker 1: from LA in the studio and here in our studio,
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Howard, I want to go to doctor Bethany Marshall,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you know, like Alan. I'm looking at her pictures right
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  Speaker 1: now and she looks like, you know, some wholesome mom
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: that just pulled a dozen chocolate chip cookies out of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the oven wrong. According to the sheriff there, Freestone County
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Jay Shipley, he says quote she was online talking
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: to multiple guys in Morocco trying to get it set
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: up for she could take her little girl over there
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: with her to them wisely, detectives obtained a search warrant
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: for all of Ambramshell Parker's electronic devices. But let me
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: get to the forensics in just a moment, and then
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I'll follow up with the legal angle with Kenya Johnson.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, this is an eight great reading teacher.
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  Speaker 1: What in the h a double L is going on
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: in her head? Okay? So an aspect of sex trafficking
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: that I think is little known, and we see this
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  Speaker 1: unfolding in abusive households across the nation is women who
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: give up their own children or younger female relatives to men,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: not necessarily for money, but because they're using the children
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: as bait to get the affection of the man. So
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: we think of sex trafficking as motivated by money, but
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's motivated by a narcissistic need for attention or
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to exploit the child to get access to other men.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And one when I've read this story, I was wondering
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: if this woman is one of these attention hungry, personality
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: disordered women who will do anything to get the attention
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  Speaker 1: of men. She goes to another country, almost like a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: sex tourist. We see men do this often go to
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: third world country so they can have access to people
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: who are in more vulnerable positions. She goes there and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: she offers up her own niece in order to get
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: access to these men. Now, the side benefit is she's
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: going to get paid, right, she gets all these new relationships.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: She feels like important in that society. But it's at
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the cost of her own child. But don't think that
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: this just happens in sex trafficking cases. This happens on
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a more mundane level in many households. You see sometimes
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: mothers who will maybe date or marry a pedophile or
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: somebody who has a lured interest in their own child
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: because they think that the child will be like the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: bait for the man. And that's just what That's an
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: aspect of this story. I keep wondering about an eighth
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: grade reading teacher thirty seven years old is now a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: suspect trying to sell her underage relative into sex slavery
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: in Morocco, posting lurid photos of the little girl online
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: dressed in lingerie with her chest exposed. If you have
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: children listening right now, please send them out of the room.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I'm giving you a ten count warning, Okay, because I'm
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: about to read what we have obtained in the sheriff's warrant. Again,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: if you have a child around you right now, please
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: send them out of the room. The sheriff's warrant that
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: we have obtained states that Amber Michelle Parker this has
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: found pursue it to search warrant on her electronic devices.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Quote talking about the little girl, she the little girl
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: wants to peel your uniform off of you, cuffew and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: lick your abs. Okay. Then she goes on to discuss
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: with the two men there in Morocco about flying to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the US to have relations with both her and the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: minor girl. This eighth grade reading teacher goes on to
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: tell the men online how well the little girl is
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and that she is a virgin. Soon after, the men
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: began trying to have Parker and the minor girl travel
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to Casablanca, Morocco. This is according to the warrant and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: they're reading it straight off everything Amber Michelle Parker was typing.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: They say that while monitoring the conversations, more photos were
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: sent to the men. All of this is being orchestrated
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: by this teacher that Parker had coached the little girl
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to take these photos, telling her what positions to be in,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: what parts of her body to expose. It goes on
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and on and on, and this is all obtained through
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: search warrants for electronic devices. Now that McLennan County Sheriff
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Parnell McNamara says, they have been watching Parker for some
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: time before they obtained all this information. You know, I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: want to go to Karen Smith, ensis expert. What do
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: you have to do in order to dig up all
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: of this electronic information? It's like leaving a path a
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: mile wide for the police. It sure is. And you know,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: family members were the people who tipped off the police
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that something was amiss. So once they had that information
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and they found this secret Facebook page that Parker had created,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: that started the ball rolling. Once they started finding all
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: of that public information, they could get the search warrant
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and then do that deep dive into her data. See
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: that big footprint she was leaving. Find out all of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the information on likely her cell phones. We listen, we
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: live and die with our electronic devices. I don't go
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: anywhere without my cell phone and likely she didn't either.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just her laptop or home computer she was
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: doing this stuff remotely. She was doing it on her
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: cell phone, So all of that information is coming into
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: play and they're going to bring it all into court
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and it's going to tell the entire disgusting, despicable story.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: According to warrants we have obtained from police, Mahia teacher
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: teaching eighth grade reading tells trafficking victim how she should
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: pose for men on line. I mean, doctor Bethany, let
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: me come back to you on how that's going to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: affect this little girl the rest of her life. But
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to Kenya Johnson more urgently, Felony prosecutor in the Atlanta jurisdiction,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: what charges can be leveled against this reading teacher Ambra
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Michelle Parker, You know it's gonna there's so many unanswered
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: questions to decide all the charges. But right now we're
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: looking at a sexual exploitation. We're looking at a sexual battery,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: depending upon how the young lady was positioned for the pictures.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I've persecuted child molestation cases before, and I've seen pictures
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: of child pornography and the looks, the hollow looks in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: the little girl's faces as they're eight and nine and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: made to look sexy and suggestive poses. It's just haunting
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and I'll never forget what those look like. And I
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: can only imagine what those young ladies feel like having
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: to pose and such such suggestive poses. And so a
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: lots more questions to be asked for right now, we're
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: already looking and law enforcements should be looking at what's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: going on with the young ladies life right now? Is
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: she already being abused? This may only be the tip
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: of the iceberg. Has she already encountered sexual exploitation? And
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: so those are some of the questions that we'd be
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: asking to formulate all the charges to charge. To doctor
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, I remember the first time. I well, I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: prosecuted so many child molestation cases, but I remember some
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: of my first ones. White hold On. I remember my
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: first one that I took to trial, and it was
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the father that molesting the little girl. And this hollow
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: look in the eyes of the little victims. I saw
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: it then, but just as a trial lawyer, I saw it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I noticed it, but I didn't know what it meant,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: that hollow look that Kenya Johnson's describing. What is that, Well,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the hollow look is that they're very dissociated or disconnected
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: from themselves that they can't even bear to be in
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: their own bodies. And we know that sexual child sexual
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: abuse is the one type of trauma that, even when
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: it's only perpetrated once against a child, scars the child
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: for the rest of their life. A child can be beaten,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: a child can be starved, left on the school steps
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: not picked up. All kinds of other trauma usually takes
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: multiple incidents to affect a child, but child sexual abuse,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: one incident changes the psychology, the physiology, the psycho You
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: have a child permanently, even resilient children. So that hollow look,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's shock. And i'd a layer to this
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: that wasn't this teacher of female relatives. So this is
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: somebody with whom she had a trusted relationship who was
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: exploiting her. That's a whole other layer of trauma right there,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and it's something that goes with you for the rest
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: of your life. And as jarry and upsetting as this is,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the little girl was saved by the local sheriffs. She
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: was taken away before she got sent to Morocco to
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: be with all of these men that the school teacher
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: was setting up to Alan Duke joining me from La Alan.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: That's the thing about trafficking. We always think of it,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you know, as some guys from some other country kidnapping
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: people taking them away. It's not like that. It's happening
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: right under our noses. Yes, I know, we've done these shows,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: we've done these interviews, but we've also seen it up close,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: because it's in every small town you're reporting, my reporting.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: We've seen the tragic situations to where the shops in
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: town are being staffed by people who are not there
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: under their own will. It's not just sex trafficking, it's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: people being forced into labor, passport's taken, smuggled into the country.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: It's a huge problem. Here in Los Angeles where I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: am right now, there are thousands of people who are
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: considered to be slaves. And you know what, not just
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: La but all over the US it's happening in this time.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: It was an eighth grade reading teacher. Listen to our
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: friend at kWt XTV. This is Russa's foursomes, provocative photo exchanges, witchcraft,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Strange details of a Freestone County human trafficking case are revealed.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Thirty seven year old Amber Parker, an eighth grade reading
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: teacher at Mahead resigned Thursday and connect with an alleged
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: incident back in November involving her underage female relative. According
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to the affidavit obtained by KBUTX, Parker was sending sexual
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: three way messages to two Moroccan men on behalf of
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the victim. Police say Parker talks about the men flying
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to the US to have sex with both her and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the victim. While the men suggests the females come to Casablanca.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Parker provides the victim's age, marketing her as a virgin,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: according to the affidavit. Then Parker takes and sends semi
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: nude photos of the victim, even directing her on poses
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to quote keep the male interested in her, Nancy Grace
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories, signing off goodbye friend,