Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / 'COWARDS' Claire McCaskill BLASTS GOP lawmakers now trying to distance themselves from Trump
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Columnist for the Washington Sun, Matt Lewis. His latest piece
- 0:03Speaker 1: is titled, I almost never vote for Democrats. I'm making
- 0:06Speaker 1: an exception this year. Matt, this reminds me when Christopher
- 0:10Speaker 1: Buckley and I wrote a column in 2006, lamenting high deficits,
- 0:15Speaker 1: high debt, big spending, just out of control spending in Washington, D.C.,
- 0:21Speaker 1: a war in Iraq that had veered wildly out of control,
- 0:26Speaker 1: terrible reactions, Hurricane Katrina, Harriet Meyers debacle. And we did
- 0:34Speaker 1: an article that said it's time for us to go.
- 0:37Speaker 1: And Chris Buckley and myself wrote the article saying, you know,
- 0:41Speaker 1: we vote for Republicans. We're not going to this year
- 0:45Speaker 1: as a form of protest. It sounds like you're there
- 0:48Speaker 1: in 2026.
- 0:51Speaker 2: That's right, Joe.
- 0:51Speaker 3: And look, I think it feels like 2006. I remember
- 0:56Speaker 3: what it felt like in 2006. And that vibe, that zeitgeist,
- 1:02Speaker 3: I think it's very similar. And look, yeah, you have
- 1:06Speaker 3: a Republican president who has really just run this country
- 1:11Speaker 3: into a ditch. I think there's an opportunity to send
- 1:14Speaker 3: a message to him. It could be about gas prices.
- 1:17Speaker 3: But As someone who cares about the Republican Party and
- 1:21Speaker 3: I don't want to sound naive, but hopes to someday
- 1:24Speaker 3: bring it start to at least bring it back to
- 1:26Speaker 3: the kind of the Reagan conservatism. I also think there's
- 1:30Speaker 3: an opportunity here because for the first time, Joe, I'm
- 1:33Speaker 3: seeing elected Republicans scrubbing Donald Trump from their websites. I'm
- 1:38Speaker 3: seeing elected Republicans criticizing him over, you know, murdering people
- 1:43Speaker 3: with ice cubes. killing Americans in the streets and over
- 1:49Speaker 3: the war in Iran, which he promised not to do.
- 1:52Speaker 3: And so I do think that this is an opportunity
- 1:55Speaker 3: to send a message. It is a midterm. It is
- 1:59Speaker 3: a referendum, I think, on the policies of Donald Trump.
- 2:03Speaker 3: And so that is what I have decided to do
- 2:05Speaker 3: this time around.
- 2:08Speaker 2: So, Matt, we've been talking this week about some of
- 2:10Speaker 2: these numbers, unlike we've ever seen that 17% of Americans,
- 2:14Speaker 2: one seven, support Donald Trump on how he's handled the
- 2:17Speaker 2: cost of living. That's a crazy number when you consider
- 2:20Speaker 2: Republicans and MAGA and everything else are now part of
- 2:22Speaker 2: the group that thinks he's not doing a good job
- 2:24Speaker 2: on the economy. We've heard Republicans try and flail to
- 2:29Speaker 2: make a case. We heard Speaker Mike Johnson this week say,
- 2:31Speaker 2: give us two more years and you're going to get
- 2:33Speaker 2: more of the same or we're going to do a
- 2:34Speaker 2: little better even. Well, America is saying we don't want
- 2:37Speaker 2: any more of this. So the argument seems to be, well,
- 2:39Speaker 2: the other side are socialists or their faith isn't real
- 2:42Speaker 2: or some of these arguments we've been talking about this morning.
- 2:45Speaker 2: If you're a Republican running in one of these swing
- 2:48Speaker 2: districts or a state that's suddenly close that shouldn't be,
- 2:50Speaker 2: what is your case right now?
- 2:54Speaker 3: I don't know if my imagination's that good, but I
- 2:57Speaker 3: think what you have to do, you can't I don't
- 2:59Speaker 3: think you can plausibly make the case for Donald Trump
- 3:02Speaker 3: actually as a conservative. If you care about things like
- 3:06Speaker 3: the rule of law, character, free speech, you can't make it.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Even as a MAGA person, like as a hardcore America
- 3:13Speaker 3: first MAGA person, like how could you make it? He's
- 3:16Speaker 3: he didn't bring prices down on day one. He didn't
- 3:20Speaker 3: keep us out of foreign wars. I mean, you go
- 3:23Speaker 3: down the list. He has really betrayed his promises. And
- 3:27Speaker 3: I think that is a character issue. So I think
- 3:29Speaker 3: what you have to do if you're a Republican running
- 3:31Speaker 3: is you have to If you can, begin to distance
- 3:35Speaker 3: from these policies. And we're seeing that happening. If you
- 3:38Speaker 3: can get away with it, Trump makes that hard. But
- 3:41Speaker 3: you also have to disqualify your opponents, right? You have
- 3:44Speaker 3: to say, like... Actually, Sherrod Brown and Josh Turek and
- 3:52Speaker 3: James Tallarico are woke. They're communists. They're woke leftists. And
- 3:58Speaker 3: I'm just of the opinion that dog won't hunt. The
- 4:03Speaker 3: candidate quality on the Democratic side right now is pretty solid.
- 4:06Speaker 3: There may be a couple of exceptions where it will work.
- 4:08Speaker 3: I do know there are obviously DSA people like running
- 4:12Speaker 3: for Congress in places like New York and Illinois or Colorado.
- 4:15Speaker 3: But for these prominent U.S. Senate races, a lot of
- 4:19Speaker 3: these candidates are really good. So it's going to be
- 4:21Speaker 3: difficult to demonize some of these people.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:25Speaker 4: And to Matt's point just now about Republicans not having
- 4:28Speaker 4: anything to run on, a strategist told me for my
- 4:30Speaker 4: new piece that there's this also frustration. Voters are angry, quote,
- 4:33Speaker 4: because they are hurting. And through his actions, Trump is
- 4:35Speaker 4: telling them that he doesn't give a damn. So there's
- 4:38Speaker 4: that just utter disconnect, Claire, where there's no sense that
- 4:42Speaker 4: he's even trying to make our lives better. So with
- 4:45Speaker 4: this as the backdrop, my question to you is, we're
- 4:47Speaker 4: seeing some Republicans, some saying, hey, I might cross party
- 4:50Speaker 4: lines and vote for Democrat. More and more saying or
- 4:53Speaker 4: not saying I'll probably just stay home because I'm just
- 4:55Speaker 4: disgusted with the whole thing. How do Democrats take advantage?
- 4:58Speaker 4: What would be your advice to candidates? Is this something
- 5:02Speaker 4: you need to sort of shift messaging, tailor an appeal?
- 5:05Speaker 1: What's the play?
- 5:07Speaker 5: Well, I think it's important to point out that any
- 5:10Speaker 5: of the Republicans that are trying to distance themselves from
- 5:12Speaker 5: Donald Trump, they were in Congress. They had the power
- 5:15Speaker 5: to stop Donald Trump and they didn't. Instead, they went
- 5:19Speaker 5: along with what Donald Trump has done. They hid under
- 5:22Speaker 5: their desks. They cowered. like the cowards they are. And
- 5:28Speaker 5: so now for any of them trying to distance themselves,
- 5:31Speaker 5: it rings very phony. But I think really more importantly,
- 5:36Speaker 5: they ought to continue to focus on those independent voters. Yeah,
- 5:40Speaker 5: they're going to have to get some Republicans in some
- 5:42Speaker 5: of these states. I mean, Adam Hamilton won't win in
- 5:45Speaker 5: Kansas unless some Republicans vote for him. Tallarico won't win
- 5:48Speaker 5: in Texas unless some Republicans vote for him. But those
- 5:51Speaker 5: independent voters, the margins with independent voters is really where
- 5:55Speaker 5: they've got to focus. And that's where you just stick
- 5:58Speaker 5: to your knitting on cost, cost, cost. This guy is
- 6:03Speaker 5: building ballrooms and gilding his office with gold filigrees. And
- 6:08Speaker 5: I'm worried about your grocery bill. And if they do that, it's.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Going to work.
- 6:13Speaker 5: And they won't have to get as many Republicans if
- 6:15Speaker 5: they get their margins up with the independent voters that
- 6:18Speaker 5: are willing to vote for either party.
- 6:20Speaker 1: So, Claire, let me ask you this question. You represented
- 6:24Speaker 1: Missouri in the Senate. How does Missouri go from having
- 6:29Speaker 1: someone like you to having someone like Eric Schmidt as
- 6:33Speaker 1: their representative? And I'm not saying that being funny. What
- 6:36Speaker 1: has happened in the state of Missouri? What has happened
- 6:39Speaker 1: in some of these other states where you have these
- 6:43Speaker 1: people who just act? I don't know Eric Schmidt, but
- 6:46Speaker 1: he acts like a clown on TV. He lies. He spread,
- 6:51Speaker 1: you know, he's warned not to not to talk about
- 6:55Speaker 1: an Atlanta Hawks game, not to show he he does
- 6:58Speaker 1: it anyway. He actually he calls Jack Smith a, quote,
- 7:05Speaker 1: dirtbag when he's the one who has been trying to
- 7:09Speaker 1: scrub January 6th from America's memory. I'm pretty sure I
- 7:14Speaker 1: know if dirtbag is applied to either Jack Smith or
- 7:17Speaker 1: Eric Schmidt, what history will who history will judge the dirtbag.
- 7:23Speaker 1: And it will probably be the one not standing up
- 7:25Speaker 1: for cops. They get the hell beaten out of them
- 7:28Speaker 1: on January 6th. So how is it that that guy
- 7:31Speaker 1: represents a state you represented not so long ago?
- 7:35Speaker 5: Well, what Donald Trump did brilliantly is he tapped into grievance.
- 7:40Speaker 5: He tapped into people, particularly in rural areas of my state,
- 7:45Speaker 5: that felt like they'd been left behind, that everybody was
- 7:48Speaker 5: getting the help but them. They were living by the rules.
- 7:51Speaker 5: They couldn't afford to retire. They couldn't afford to take
- 7:53Speaker 5: a vacation. They couldn't afford to send their kids to college.
- 7:56Speaker 5: And meanwhile, they thought everybody else was getting something and
- 7:59Speaker 5: they weren't. Donald Trump figured that out. So he blamed
- 8:02Speaker 5: it on the Mexicans, not microchips. He spent a lot
- 8:06Speaker 5: of time convincing folks that were upset that they'd been
- 8:10Speaker 5: left behind that he was their savior. And it worked.
- 8:15Speaker 5: He got a lot of people in rural Missouri that
- 8:17Speaker 5: had voted for Democrats to switch. And the cultural issues helped.
- 8:21Speaker 5: The way he spoke helped because he said things out
- 8:24Speaker 5: loud that they were thinking, but nobody had ever said
- 8:26Speaker 5: out loud before. Now, here's what's happened, Joe. Those margins
- 8:30Speaker 5: went crazy in rural areas of Missouri and allowed Eric
- 8:33Speaker 5: Schmidt to be a clown and still get elected. But
- 8:36Speaker 5: what's happening now in rural areas, health care hospitals are closing.
- 8:41Speaker 5: The tariffs are killing the farmers. Input costs on diesel
- 8:45Speaker 5: are through the roof. And you're seeing those margins, at
- 8:47Speaker 5: least in the polling I'm looking at, beginning to swing
- 8:50Speaker 5: back to a more reasonable level that would allow Democrats
- 8:53Speaker 5: to win in states like Missouri again. And you're seeing
- 8:55Speaker 5: it in places like Iowa and Kansas.
- 8:58Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Willie, the crisis in rural health care,
- 9:02Speaker 1: we've been actually talking about it long before the so-called
- 9:06Speaker 1: Big Beautiful Bill passed. That savaged rural health care even more.
- 9:12Speaker 1: There's such a rural health care crisis. There's a farming crisis.
- 9:16Speaker 1: You have people losing their farms. There's a trucking crisis.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Truck truck companies going bankrupt right now. Diesel well over
- 9:25Speaker 1: six a gallon. You look at the damage that tariffs
- 9:31Speaker 1: have done. You look at the damage that so much
- 9:34Speaker 1: of the Republican policy is done. Trump's policy is done
- 9:38Speaker 1: to rural areas today. you know, you can understand why
- 9:43Speaker 1: Democrats are making gains in the rural part of America.
- 9:46Speaker 1: In fact, what's hard to understand is why anybody in
- 9:49Speaker 1: rural America would vote for Republicans right now under this administration.
- 9:54Speaker 2: And what's so remarkable, Joe, about everything you just laid
- 9:56Speaker 2: out there is each of those was a choice. The big, beautiful,
- 10:00Speaker 2: bill was a choice to strip funding away from rural
- 10:03Speaker 2: hospitals and red districts and hospitals all over the country.
- 10:06Speaker 2: The war in Iran was a choice. The trade war
- 10:09Speaker 2: moves was closed. Gas and diesel, the prices go up.
- 10:12Speaker 2: That was a choice. Tariffs were a choice. That's driving
- 10:15Speaker 2: prices up across the country. And Donald Trump, Republicans were
- 10:19Speaker 2: warned about all this. Many Republicans knew about all this.
- 10:22Speaker 2: They wouldn't stand up to him because they fear him.
- 10:25Speaker 2: And now they're left to deal with the consequences. Less
- 10:28Speaker 2: than five weeks from now, we'll see what they are.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Or just click below.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Thanks.