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Billiards Hall of Famer Rodney Morris with Bill Krackomberger! · WiseKracks

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, Welcome back to Wisecracks. Bill Krachenberger over here
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  Speaker 1: at the fabulous Westgates super Book. Listen. We just came
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  Speaker 1: off a crazy Super Bowl weekend. I couldn't believe how
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  Speaker 1: many people are online cashing tickets two and a half
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  Speaker 1: hours after the game. The other day, you guys know,
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  Speaker 1: sick weeks for props, I had one of my best
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  Speaker 1: years ever in the history of betting sports on props.
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  Speaker 1: The guys at Wager Talk that you know put on
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  Speaker 1: this show. You really I gave you guys a seven
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  Speaker 1: and oh package. That's impossible, like like I probably that's
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you go seven oh? You
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  Speaker 1: got to lose something ten and three overall, But the
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  Speaker 1: package was seven and oh. I've been talking about this
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  Speaker 1: guy the last couple of weeks. One of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: pool players to ever play the game. Undercover of the night,
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  Speaker 1: kind of guy. I knew him when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't know me, because why would he know me.
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  Speaker 1: I was playing in pool halls. But he was the guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's the guy that would come in and take off
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the people. Rodney Morris, thanks for coming,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for being Thank you for havingreciate it. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I met you down at the Golden Nugget actually officially
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  Speaker 1: when I used to like run the joint, I had
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  Speaker 1: like a combat at all times, you know. And uh, bump,
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  Speaker 1: our quick mutual friend Bumper brought you over that time.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what that's when I told you before off air,
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  Speaker 1: I met Ginky, And Ginky was a really good pool player,
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  Speaker 1: real sharp kid. I met him at west End Billiards,
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  Speaker 1: but we actually met him more out here. He stayed
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  Speaker 1: out here. We were out here together for like a week,
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  Speaker 1: going out, hanging out. And he was a nice kid,
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  Speaker 1: really really nice kid. He got to be on ESPN
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  Speaker 1: and and unfortunately he was. He was He was like
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  Speaker 1: walking down the street with a cab driver named Armond
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  Speaker 1: that used to play and he got hit by a
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  Speaker 1: chair that got thrown out a window and unfortunately that
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  Speaker 1: was his downfall spiral. Poor kid hit with a chair
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  Speaker 1: and then he wound up getting himself into some trouble
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  Speaker 1: with with some other things. And the poor kid got
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  Speaker 1: him saying he was one of the best. To a
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  Speaker 1: sharp looking fast night and what a nice kid too,
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  Speaker 1: like you a nice guy. Very unusual to see nice
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  Speaker 1: guys in the pool world. No you uh Tony Robles
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  Speaker 1: out of New York. I always thought we were great
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  Speaker 1: guy in Yanky too. There were always really nice guys
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  Speaker 1: in the poor world was as unusual. So but let's
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  Speaker 1: go back to the beginning. When you were a kid.
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  Speaker 2: You grew up in Hawaii, right, well, I was born
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  Speaker 2: in California.
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  Speaker 3: I was born in Orange County, Anaheim, right across from
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  Speaker 3: Disneyland and nineteen seventy and my dad was military and
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  Speaker 3: stationed out there. My mom's from Hawaii. My dad is
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  Speaker 3: from Guam and he's a marine, still going and yeah
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  Speaker 3: he's still going, but he's uh so.
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  Speaker 2: And then they.
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  Speaker 3: Split up when I was about a year and a
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  Speaker 3: half old. So then then it was my stepdad was
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  Speaker 3: you know sure, Oh I grew up with you know
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  Speaker 3: who I knew.
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  Speaker 2: But my dad was always around.
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  Speaker 3: And so then in nineteen eighty we moved back to
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  Speaker 3: or we moved to Hawaii. My mom wanted to go
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  Speaker 3: back and I was ten years old, and then that's
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  Speaker 3: where I grew up in Hawaii.
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  Speaker 2: So I grew up on the beach.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, you grew up in Now, how did you
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  Speaker 1: get in the pool? Were you playing pool? As a
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  Speaker 1: kid in California, or when you got to Hawaii.
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  Speaker 2: When I got to Hawaii.
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  Speaker 3: So I was sixteen years old and I walked into
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  Speaker 3: Hawaiian Brian, Hawaiian Brian's Billiards.
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  Speaker 2: To play foosball. We used to play foosball again, sure,
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  Speaker 2: and then we were waiting.
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  Speaker 3: The line was super long, and then uh, so I
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  Speaker 3: told my buddies, two of my friends, and said, let's uh.
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  Speaker 2: I said, man, we.
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  Speaker 3: Looked at the pool table. See you guys ever played pool?
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  Speaker 3: And he says no. So we all played and about
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  Speaker 3: we played you know how you played cutthroat with fifteen balls?
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  Speaker 2: I heard you got to sink the other guy's balls
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  Speaker 2: and whoever's balls.
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  Speaker 3: Or left you know the last you know, five So
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  Speaker 3: we played that for twenty five cents a man and
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  Speaker 3: I and then about you know, about two hours later,
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  Speaker 3: I got about like fourteen dollars worth of quarters. And
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  Speaker 3: those guys never played pool again. And I never left
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  Speaker 3: the pool table. Wow, So I picked it up so fast. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the guys like, how the heck.
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  Speaker 1: Did go for lessons? No one told you like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I just picked it up.
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  Speaker 3: Never played, never played a game of foosball since either
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  Speaker 3: that was that was my my, my.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of those things, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I always felt like, you know, if you could just find,
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  Speaker 3: you know, something that you do really really well, like
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  Speaker 3: you know, and and you know a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: know they try other things that are not real good at.
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  Speaker 3: I just happened to stumble onto the thing that I
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  Speaker 3: was really good at, so that was cool.
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  Speaker 1: So I grew up in North Jersey and Central Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and around pool halls there, and I remember I was
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  Speaker 1: playing somewhere. I don't know if it was somewhere in
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  Speaker 1: Mammouth County. I know you were based out of You
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  Speaker 1: actually wind up leaving Hawaii under Hawaiian guy on Brian's
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  Speaker 1: Guys and then meeting Tony Kutucci who owned the ballroom,
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  Speaker 1: and that was a Route nine in Tom's River.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's right. I was based out of Toms
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  Speaker 2: River and River, and.
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  Speaker 1: I wound up seeing you somewhere and said, wow, this guy,
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  Speaker 1: this guy is this kid. You were younger than me
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  Speaker 1: a couple years. This kid's unbelievable. And now Tony knew
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  Speaker 1: right away and actually took you on the road. So
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  Speaker 1: you weren't playing entering tournaments where everyone would know you
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  Speaker 1: you were kind of going undercover in the back rooms
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  Speaker 1: or playing people for cash. Didn't really want to get
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  Speaker 1: your name out there in tournaments where you may win
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  Speaker 1: the first prize. At first, I'm saying you would play
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  Speaker 1: cash games on the way up in my arm. But
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  Speaker 1: even with the unknown guys, I would think, now you
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  Speaker 1: tell me, maybe I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would just hang out And a lot
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  Speaker 3: of times I would show up at a tournament and
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  Speaker 3: lose on purpose and just kind of hang around and
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  Speaker 3: look for action, you know, people, And most of the
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  Speaker 3: times the tournaments, you know, if you if you could
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  Speaker 3: win five thousand in a tournament or whatever, you could
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  Speaker 3: play somebody.
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  Speaker 2: For that for five thousand or ten thousand, no problems.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like sometimes the tournaments were just kind of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a place to go look for my prey.
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  Speaker 1: That's right now it is, it seems like it's the
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  Speaker 1: exact opposite now by the way it seems like tournaments,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like pool. Now there's not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: gambling in the in the pool rooms like it was
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  Speaker 1: back then. Back then, in the eighties and nineties, everyone
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  Speaker 1: was gambling everyone's Now it's more of a maybe it's mainstream.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's better actually for the game. But everyone was
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  Speaker 1: gambling when I was. When I was in these pool rooms,
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  Speaker 1: everyone was gambling. It just seems a little different now
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really into pool no more. But it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: from what I hear, From what I'm hearing, or is
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  Speaker 1: it still that way? They have a billiards room here
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  Speaker 1: they always go to. This is the better We're in
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  Speaker 1: the building that everyone comes to pool. For pool, they
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  Speaker 1: go to West Gate. This is where a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the convention or tournaments are here. I see people carrying
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  Speaker 1: around pool sticks all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get I leave for Hawaii tomorrow to train.
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  Speaker 3: I go to Heilo, Hawaii from one of my good
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  Speaker 3: friend's grandkids when they're ten, eleven, and twelve years old,
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  Speaker 3: and they all they all run out and they'll be
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  Speaker 3: here next week playing in the league here. It's an
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  Speaker 3: amateur league, so they're all little kids. So there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of kids play. There'll be two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 3: thousand people here next week.
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  Speaker 1: Got the pools. It's a big thing for the city.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big thing for here. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people that come here. What about all those all those
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  Speaker 1: nicknames you must have seen over time in the pool world.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like how we let's ask you, how did
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  Speaker 1: you get your nickname the Rocket? How'd you get that?
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  Speaker 3: I just played super fastest and when I was young,
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  Speaker 3: nobody knew my name. So they're just like, where does
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  Speaker 3: that get is? He runs around the table like a rocket.
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  Speaker 3: And then they are they're that rocket guy, come here.
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  Speaker 3: Let's like so yeah, yeah, so so somebody actually was
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  Speaker 3: a really good friend of mine that actually named me
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  Speaker 3: my buddy Roy and Hawaii.
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  Speaker 1: So where I grew up, Mammath County. I'll see if
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  Speaker 1: you know some of these names. You have to know
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  Speaker 1: some of these did you know like Neptune.
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  Speaker 2: Joe or oh yeah, Joe, Freddy?
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  Speaker 1: Did you know Blood out of Newark? Blood? Yeah? Oh
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And Blood Gipsy, Bob you know Bob stevens Kelly, Bob out.
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  Speaker 1: Of Hoboken, Yeah, everybody, everybody? Teddy? Did you know Teddy
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  Speaker 1: the Greek?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Teddy's air for what? Wow? So you know.
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  Speaker 2: Tony knew him? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So so Kid Delicious funny, he's I always joke around.
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  Speaker 3: I never called it nobody delicious, right, but I usually
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  Speaker 3: call him kids suspicious.
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  Speaker 1: But now he is. He's uh, he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was a good guy, but he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was.
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  Speaker 3: His dad used to come into the pool room and
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  Speaker 3: Tom's river at the battleroom. They lived a couple of
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  Speaker 3: miles from there, that's where That's where his house was.
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  Speaker 3: But every time I would come to town, he was
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  Speaker 3: on the road doing what I was doing. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he was hustling pool something. You know, he's like And
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  Speaker 3: most of the time when I came to town, you
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  Speaker 3: would see a lot of the good players. All of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden they're not around. They would make sure wherever
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  Speaker 3: I'm at they go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Edi you know him. Yeah, a lot of the old
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  Speaker 1: names I just thought about. I wrote him down just thinking.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well one of the most famous guys was
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if people know he was a pool player.
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  Speaker 2: Was is John Hennighan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually out of anybody in the pool world that
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  Speaker 1: was in there. Uh, that's the person I'm closest to.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeads legend. He's a legend.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, yeah, And I remember, like it was yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: it was it was him. Uh and uh was it
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  Speaker 3: with the albino kid?
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  Speaker 2: Was it Josh?
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  Speaker 3: It was Josh, and then the Asian guy was another
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  Speaker 3: Asian guy was three of them and they all started
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  Speaker 3: playing poker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the remember it was like.
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  Speaker 3: They were playing they were playing poker, and the guys said,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, he's he's there.
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  Speaker 2: They don't play pool anymore. He's in. He's a big
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  Speaker 2: time poker guy.
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  Speaker 1: He left, he left, and he's he's one of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest poker players. Yeah, plays the highest levels. One day,
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  Speaker 1: me and being up walk into he said, let's go
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  Speaker 1: see let's go see Flakes. I said, listen, he's up
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  Speaker 1: there head to head playing Doyle and Doyle brunting. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we shouldn't do that right now. And so now we're
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  Speaker 1: going right in and and and and Flakes is like
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  Speaker 1: he's got like a million dollars in front of him.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, hey, bump, let me, let me talk to
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  Speaker 1: you after. It's a serious game we're playing here. Doyle
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  Speaker 1: gave him a frown. But I wind up being friends
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  Speaker 1: with Doyle too, though. But as far as Flake's Johnny
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  Speaker 1: world isn't legend. Yeah, yeah, so his pool game was
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  Speaker 1: back then? Was that good? I remember, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wrote down something about Flakes.
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  Speaker 2: She could have been one of the best in the
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  Speaker 2: world for a pool too. But there's no money in it.
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  Speaker 1: There was no money in it.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote something down about him. I was gonna bring
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  Speaker 1: him up later. But since you brought him up, let's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: strolls into the Philly pool room, pet Fusso's pool room.
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  Speaker 1: Oh did you play Flakes in there? In that pool room?
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  Speaker 2: I did that time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Pete was a little better better, and so
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  Speaker 3: I was. I would just go there and say no,
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  Speaker 3: I can't play, I can't play you, and then and
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  Speaker 3: then uh and and anyway, Flakes was the guy to
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  Speaker 3: play anyway, right right, you would for you know, whatever
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  Speaker 3: you wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he used to got a lot of gamble to him.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reason why he's successful today. I think the
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  Speaker 1: money he has today, which he has a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money today, I think it's locked up now because he
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  Speaker 1: would go through it doesn't matter. He wouldn't he win
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  Speaker 1: millions and then blow it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: He'll tell you he should be a good guy. I
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  Speaker 1: should get him on a show because he'd be a
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  Speaker 1: good guest talking about I've seen him at the taj
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  Speaker 1: Mahall at the dice table, him and Josh. I just
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  Speaker 1: can't believe he'd make all this money like on with
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  Speaker 1: edges and then blow at the dice table. Yea, ta
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  Speaker 1: get a worse of it, exactly right. But and you know, Fussco.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy was a really nice guy. I thought, too so wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I want to put him in that that level of
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  Speaker 1: nice guys. Jimmy was very I was with Grady Matthews.
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  Speaker 1: He was a really nice, nice guy. Some of the
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  Speaker 1: older names or the pool players were really nice for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, compared to other athletes and other you know, celebrities.
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  Speaker 1: Let's call him. You know, I know pool is just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get the respect at deserve. But that we're always
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  Speaker 1: on ESPN, you know, I'm good almost good friends. When
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  Speaker 1: Alan Hopkins, Alan Hopkins.
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  Speaker 3: Was the guy that was on there International Challenging champions
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  Speaker 3: he did every year, Yeah and yeah, yeah he did.
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  Speaker 3: There was there was some there were some good times
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  Speaker 3: that that Pool had some really good uh you know
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  Speaker 3: airtime as far as yes, you know, getting on sports
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  Speaker 3: so it was uh, you know, we've had some some
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  Speaker 3: chances to get mainstream and to get in there. So
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  Speaker 3: and I think now it's coming around again because with
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  Speaker 3: the betting now, you know more so now somebody just
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  Speaker 3: got to create a game.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's that's you know, conducive to the betting
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  Speaker 2: world betting.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't I didn't know if you knew about
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  Speaker 1: what happened out here at the Mirage. Jimmy McCarroll when
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  Speaker 1: he opened up, he had the pool players coming here.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was one hundred thousand dollars tournament. First
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  Speaker 1: prize was fifty thousand. I could be wrong on the
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  Speaker 1: prize money. It was definitely fifty thousand involved. So they
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  Speaker 1: had a big tournament here and they had about sixteen
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  Speaker 1: players and they had I have a video of it
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  Speaker 1: of they had the odds from the board. They had
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  Speaker 1: like from like five to one, eight to one, twelve
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  Speaker 1: to one, all the way down to I believe it
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  Speaker 1: was fifty to one on Luba Terror, I think it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lub Baito. No, it was it was
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  Speaker 1: Mike Lebron, Spanish like Lebron. Where did I get a
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  Speaker 1: Terror from? He was a player to the back of
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  Speaker 1: the day machine gun lou Right, how do I get that?
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  Speaker 1: But Spanish MIKEA Lebron. He was the older guy probably
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  Speaker 1: in the tournament two fifty to one, and the pool
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  Speaker 1: players got together and said, wait a minute, what are
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  Speaker 1: we doing here? We're banging out to try to get
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  Speaker 1: this fifty thousand dollars. Let's let's just whack up the
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  Speaker 1: money all the pool players and let's just bet on
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  Speaker 1: the fifty to one Spanish mic and then he went
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  Speaker 1: down to twenty to one. Bet him again, and Buddy
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  Speaker 1: Hall in the finals with him the rifleman, Buddy Hall
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  Speaker 1: and him in the finals. Uh the videos on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: just look for Buddy Hall verse Spanish, Mike Lebron. It's
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  Speaker 1: pretty bad that last game. It's pretty bad, Buddy missus
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  Speaker 1: straight ball or straight down down the table at nine?
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  Speaker 1: It's uh but hey, uh, why do I root for
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  Speaker 1: the bad guys and they're not even bad guys. Even
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  Speaker 1: in the movies, I root for the bad guys. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so happy someone took off a casino like that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: here filming in a casino. I get so excited that that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately, they would never have odds on a
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  Speaker 1: pool torment again in a casino. But I've been to
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  Speaker 1: so many different pool tormers. I played pool as a kid.
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  Speaker 1: I had some of my best money scores. When I
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  Speaker 1: was a kid who was playing pool, playing against guys
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  Speaker 1: that were better than me, but me making they were
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  Speaker 1: had they were such degenerate gamblers. They want to play,
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  Speaker 1: they would. You would make a game that's so good
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  Speaker 1: for you. You had to do that your whole life.
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  Speaker 1: You're making games that you cannot lose. You actually have
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  Speaker 1: to make it look good. I mean, how many times
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  Speaker 1: in your life have you made your game like you said,
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  Speaker 1: you used to lose on purpose? Am I right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we call it matching up. You got to know
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  Speaker 3: how to match up, right, You got to you match
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  Speaker 3: up when you're the favorite. And people don't realize they
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: think pool is gambling. No, wool is a skill game.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: So if we're playing, you know, most of the time
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: the game has already won before you even that's your start.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: You know I'm betting, you know you're betting money. But
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: but my skill is going to outdo your skill, right,
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: So that's that's the key.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Now, someone I someone I really thought and people that
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: are watching that are at no pool and no billiards.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I always thought Efrin Ray as not just because everyone
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: says it. I've watched the guy in multiple tournaments. I
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: probably was at ten different events watching this guy, and
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: I watched him his name is nickname is the magician, right, Yah,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: I've watched him being a magician at that table. I
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. So, however, you and Fern were actually
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: pretty close. Yeah, and and you actually, uh, what was
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: the year you played him in the finals of what
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: it was the US Open?
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was nineteen ninety six.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Ninety six, that's my rookie year on tour. That was
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: your rookie year on So before that, I'm kind of
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: going out of order, and I apologize. Guys. Before that though,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: you were what's your When was your first time going
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: to like Tom's River in New Jersey? Like like jd oh,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: you didn't. Yeah, so I was eighty nine to going
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: on tour. What were you doing all those years? Was
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Tony taking you on the road and hustling pool all
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: up and down the coast?
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not really hustling.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: I remember the first time in nineteen eighty nine, we
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: walked into a pool room in South Carolina. Remember I
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: never left Hawaii to play pool at the time, So
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: we walked into this cool place, right, I don't know
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: where it was I forget maybe Jimmy Hodge's place. Okay,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: a cute time. I forget what it was, and uh, Greenville,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: South Carolina, and he says, just go and we hit
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: some balls, you know, and you know, see you know,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: don't don't show too much. And then h and we're
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: looking for lower players to play. We're not trying to
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: play the best player. And I think it's the first
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: time that Tony saw me, and and like, you know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: try to try to like make it. I don't look
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: so good. And then after about ten minutes he's like,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: he says, listen, kid, He said, this is no possible
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: way you can look bad. He said, you just look
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: too good at the table. He said, just ask any
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: of the best players if they want to play.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: We'll going anywhere. Just ask who was the best player
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I want to play them, because.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: He said, you're not going to hustle nobody. You look
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: too good at the table. You couldn't even I couldn't
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: even look bad.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: For the people listening to at home watching a home
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought when I seen you. I said,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: holy shit, where did this kid come? I said, what
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: did this guy's unbelieving? No one ever heard of you,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: like I knew all the top players. I was friends
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: with Steve miseraka my dad knew Steve's dad, you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Pert Damn. But in New Jersey, I knew Steve really well.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I knew I knew a lot of players. And I
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: just where did this guy come from? Why is any
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: playing pro? And and there was a there was a
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: billiard hole in Marlborough, New Jersey, I forget the name
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: is in Marble's right down the street on nine, about
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: ten miles up though, north of the ballroom. And I
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: hung on there. I hung out in Atlantic Coilands in
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the pool room. I hung out in Keyport and a
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: boom Haslet.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I was all over.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: But I also went on the road to those good rooms,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: the chelseason, Amsterdam, or in New York pool rooms. And
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I really really where I really got the pulse a
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: pool though, was West End Billiards and Elizabeth. That was
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: the place that I really got There they had a
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: poker game upstairs. They had their tournament once a week,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and some of the best guys in the world were
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: playing in that tournament at one time, you know, But
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: it was all the New York rounders that Tony Robles
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Frankie Hernandez And did you play in that at all?
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I did a lot every time I want, yeah, yeah, yeah, and.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: You're playing against pros. Mister reck was in that room.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of great players in that room.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And we used to play poker after. Uh. I worked
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in a restaurant back then. I used to bring Hamburgers
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: for all the crow I used to bring bags at
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Hamburger bags, you know the stuff, And that's why they
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: nicknamed me Burger Bill over there. I worked more blue
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: collar jobs. You guys were all hustled on the road.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: But no, but it was a good time. Though. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: knew a lot about black jack card counting, someone taught me,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: so it was good. It was. It was good times
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: before I was gambling full time. But that room, Chelsea Billiards.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I remember in walked the girl, the black widow. Oh yeah,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: that Lee. And she was just like she was. First
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: of all, she was always dressed in black, real sexy girl.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: But she would she would how you doing good to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: see you? She would she would come in and she would,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: uh just she was so good. But I don't think
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: she really had me money. She was just having guys.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Staker or put money off and they would put up
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: money for it because and she challenged all the guys
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to play. She wanted up being I think she's one
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: of the best. She was one of the best female
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: players in the world. Am I saying it right? Yeah? Yeah?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: In nineteen she she learned from a lot of us.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: She used to come down to tell them. She came
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: to Hawaii and place.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: She always she always wanted to learn from all the
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: best men players, right, because that's how you're gonna you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: you know, you're gonna get better, right, So she and
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: then and then in nineteen ninety three, I think she
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: won the World Championship, unbelievable and that was kind of
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: catapulted her too. Yeah, you know, And it's funny because
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: she's every everywhere I go, you know, for decades.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: A lot of people they don't even know pool, but
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: they said, can you beat the black widow?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Right? Right?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: She was very famous in.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Front of all the pools. Is yeah, I mean there
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: were some great girls though. Iwa Mattia was great. Lori
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: John her father had a pool room in North Jersey,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Lord John Jones. But yeah, Sammy Jones was his name.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: So from from that eighty nine to ninety six before
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you became on the pro tour, and everyone what were
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you doing those years you were down in South Carolina?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Were you going from different states looking for games? Or
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: he just said, you know, I forget it, just start
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: playing the best guys. Well, we used to.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: He had a he used to have a book and
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: he used to have you know, every city we went to,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: he knew who to play. He knew he knew who
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: to who, who could play for a lot of money,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: and who to lose to. Let's say I went went
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: to someplace and I wanted to play somebody. Let's say
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I was looking for you, and I know you bet big,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: but there was one guy that that played just under you,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: and I would go over there and I would lose
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: one hundred or two hundred bucks to.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: That guy that's just under you while you're watching.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Sure, and then you're then you're asking me to play
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: now and then yeah, but you're the actual guy that I've.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Get the course.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's also and you know one move was a
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: good move that And everybody asked me all the time,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: said do you ever get in trouble?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I said no, I'd tell everybody that you.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Know, I'm gonna I'm gonna win. I'm gonna you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to hustle you. I'm gonna beat you.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I won't say that you know I can't beat you.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say I'll play. I'm the best player.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: And then so you never get in trouble. But the
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: way we back then, remember no cell phones, so we
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: didn't take any chances. If we're in a pool room
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: and we went in twenty thirty thousand or whatever, yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: and you know we don't we're not from there. So
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: we call the fire department from the payphone or the
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: pool room phone. They just call the fire department and say, hey,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: there's a fire. And when the fire department comes in
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, false alarmed, and we walk out
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: with them.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: We never had a problem. What a good move.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we never just in case you never want to
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: find out, you know, And most of the time, you know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: it's not the pool playing community that's going to do something.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: It's people that are watching on the side that might
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: not be you know, real savory characters. You know, they
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: might be watching you with a bunch of money and.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Like, ah, let's get these guys or something.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Who knows.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: You know, it's years ago. When you were you would
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you would actually pray for rain up you know, when
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you were all the it seems like whenever there was rain,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you get all the people, the construction workers, the painters,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the guys that come in and play. I want to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: play for money, a little bit of money. When we
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: were kids, that's the days you want to well, you know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: so you're you're talking about these these these pool rooms
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and walking out and you'd have to watch yourself. And
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: these construction guys were tough guys. They get mad when
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: their money gets ropped off them. So you would actually
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: say to him, hey, I'm gonna wins. You would act
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that way, yeah whatever. Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: The worst is when people get in trouble when they
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: try to play somebody and lose to them or perpose
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: and then get the bet jacked.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Up, and then they then they beat them. They're like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: you were hustling me.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I never had that. I'll just tell the guy, I'm
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: gonna beat you. You can't beat me, let me ask you.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: There was one of their old time hustlers, uh top
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Knox guy Jack Cooney, who actually knew Jack and played
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: with him very well. Yeah, yeah, he's a legendary guy.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Is he's still with us? Yeah, I think so, as
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: far as I know, Yeah, he was like one of
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the old time. Was he from Philadelphia, I'm not.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Till today, I don't know where, but I know he
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: was based out of there when I was there at
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: that time in the nineties, and he was there all
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And I saw him move on there. Like the most
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: incredible story a play of three months I ever seen.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Well he had well yet I remember he was. I
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: was watching him play three guys over this course of
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: like three months, and and all three of.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Those guys played the same level. So this is how
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: awesome he was. He would he would play let's say
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: the first guy. He would play the first guy first
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: day and he would lose five hundred to the guy
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: right then. Then then he would go to the next
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: guy and play him and he would beat him for
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: a thousand. Right then he would play the third guy
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: and lose five hundred. Then he would go back the
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: next time the guy that he lost five hundred too,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: he would beat him for a thousand, and then the
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: guy that he beat him for a thousand, he would
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: lose back five hundred and he would always win a
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: thousand and five hundred yea and every.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Single and he did that. I saw him do it
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: for months, and I think he was there for years.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Did I never get to play him?
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I never got to play him because he could have
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: played me at any time. He was that good of
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: a player, but he wouldn't because he was on a
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: different Yeah, you don't want.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: To Oh yeah, you don't want to ruin your acts.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about your dad. Now I heard this. I'm
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a giant Elvis fan. So yeah, I'm a giant Elvis fan.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I took my parents to Graceland. I became an Elvis
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: fan when I when I was there. What what did
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: your dad do with Elvis?
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: So my dad might well, my stepdad, Fred Bruster, Fred Brewster,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: he raised me until I was ten to go to Hawaii, right,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: but then.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He was his bodyguard for Elvis.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: So he was with Mike Stone and that grit that
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: got that got the contract and all that. So he
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: used to tell us, you know, and I remember one
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: time specifically, remember nineteen.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was nineteen seventy six.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, about I was six years old and we were
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: living in Garden Grove, California. And then in the front
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: yard we had a big tree and they had those
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: you know, those leaves that are about this big and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: covers the whole thing.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: You can't it's about this all.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, So my mom and and you know, and Fred
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: got into a big argument, right, and my and Fred
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: had four albums with Elvis stuff from back then, all
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: the Elvis four photo albums full and my mom took
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: it and put it in that yard like hiding it
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: from him. And when when he came back, she said
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I burned him ome and all that. And then later
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: on when they made up, she you know, he said, oh,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: they're just in the yard, right. We never found him.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Somebody saw the one four albums. So I always tell
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: my dad. I was telling him about that, remember that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: He said, yeah, your mom said she burned it, but
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: somebody must have saw her putting him.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And can you imagine four albums of all Elvis stuff back.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Then, somebody has somebody found it in Garden Grove, California.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Over there, I see photos with also Clint Eastwood.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: He yeah, he bodyguard for Clint Eastwood.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Jerry Lewis, Yeah, he's a he's a he's a he
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: got inducted in the Martial.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Arts Hall of Fame.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: He's Kempo Master, so he was under his first generation,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: under Ed Parker. So that's all the that's when Elvis
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: was doing all the temple moves and all that that was.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: He told me, he like, son, you know when you
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: know he's that funeral procession that Elvis had, he said,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Ed Parker's had more people there. Wow, that's how legendary
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: was Yeah, so wow, it was a great yeah. Yeah, yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: so he's a big Yeah. He used to tell me
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: all kinds of stories. Yeah, yeah, nice funny.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: So now now we can go over to different and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and and you know, I'll go to this last the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: photo last. But so now you play in some of
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: these big, big events and you're in the you're in
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the US Open. Was that in Chesapeake Virginia? Chesapeake Virginia
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I won a couple of times. Yeah, and you go
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: to the finals with yes, right.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: And this is the nineteen nineteen ninety six, Yeah, September
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: ninety six.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I think it was wow. And that's the first time
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you played with him before, because is the first time
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you're playing with him, and this kind of a spotlight
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: where you think pressure. Would you're playing the magician, the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: greatest player of all time, but you didn't let to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: get to you.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: You beat him.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so I did something that year. That
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: was my first year on tour because after from nineteen
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: ninety five, I was in I was looking for a
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: game and Tulsa, Oklahoma. I never been in Oklahoma before.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: And this is nineteen ninety five, in the summer of
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: ninety five, and I was playing, and I was making
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: some money and We're going to play the next day
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: for five thousand against a guy. And somebody came and
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: then they showed there was a pool and billiard magazine
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: and then the very very back of the magazine it
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: had a.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Little picture of me in it because I had played
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: in a tournament. So and then the guy came, no,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: this is you and all that. Then never I never
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: got the game.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Then that's when I'm like, Okay, if i'm you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you know, everybody's gonna start knowing me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: So I can't really go undercover anymore. So I gotta play.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: So nineteen ninety six is when I started playing. You know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: that was my rookie year on tour.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: And uh, and I'm but every every tournament that we
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: went to, I would I would ask Effron to play
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: because Effron was.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: The He's the reason why I wanted to play pool.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be just like him. Oh my god,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that's my idol.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: So I would play him race to seven for one
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: hundred bucks every before the start of every tournament that year,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: and we would play five sets.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: And I never want to set.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: You're just basically I'm learning umber.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Losting lesson.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, basically. So I would lose five hundred to him
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: every every tournament. And then now fast forward, you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: like eight months later, we're in the I'm in the
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: finals of the US Open with him and I'm playing him.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: This guy that beat you and all these sets and stuff.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the and the US Open ninth ball. That
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: was the biggest tournament in the world at the time.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Of course, yeah that was the biggest. It's still a
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: great tournament to it, but it's uh, that was everybody
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: wanted to win that one.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: So I beat that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Frind And I remember Franki Ernandis was in the front
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: and talk about gambling. There was a whole entourage right
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: outside before the finals, and uh, and I was with
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Frankie and Tony Roblez, you know. And so Frankie's out
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: there and he goes out there Spanish mic is there.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Everybody's there, and.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Frankie says, anybody want to better on the frin I'll
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: take the kid.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, And nobody said a word.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: You're kidding me. Nobody said you can ask about to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: be a dollars fifty over you too, I mean, yeah,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a big favorite.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Right in that situation, He's like, He's like, nobody.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Will to bet.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: He said, you got the best player in the world.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, you got this kid from Hawaii, you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you know, and nobody want to bet. He said, effort,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: you gotta fire all these guys.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: That's what he told them. Nobody would bet a quarter.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: That's unbelievable.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, frank Till today I tell frank about that story,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I can't believe nobody would bet because.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: They knew, they knew they saw me.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I always thought about Frankie. He was a great local
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: player there, and but he was always so cocky and arrogant.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I thought, but he was great.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: He was great, id right, And you just told me
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: though that he actually had a good job and retires
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: from it that's great. That's great because he's these good
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: guyers that made all this money and the little bit
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of money in the pull in the beginning, they have
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: nothing in the future. I'm glad someone got out and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: made some money. And Tony Robbles down in Florida. I
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: was teaching lessons and stuff.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he travels around. He does a lot of stuff.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Good guy, good guy, great guy.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: You know, I lived for a while in North Carolina
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and there was a pool tournament down there.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I knew that.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Steve told me he was going down. Steve Mizerak going
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: down this local pool hall in Raleigh, North Carolina.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: And that's it. Yeah, that's it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And Johnny Archer, I think he was either from there
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: or he was living there. He was living there, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I thought he was one of the greatest players. And
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you've had some good interaction with him over the years.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Johnny's great. Yeah, player of the decade in the nineties.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Scoppick about that. That's how good he was, such a
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: good player. But I want to give you're gonna you're
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: gonna laugh when you hear my favorite player. He was
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: from He was from down the road there. He was
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: from down the road North Carolina. Earl Strickland.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I loved Earl and uh, I know he
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: was not liked by a lot of people, but I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: thought Earl Strickland was great. I thought he was a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: great player. I thought he used to talk during the match.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: He was like, you know, maybe a little bit of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a cry baby. But I loved him. Yeah, I love
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that's part of a stick, part of his act, Earl,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Earl the Pearl. You played him, I'm sure before.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so the two guys, it's it's great that
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you brought him up. So in nineteen you know, eighty
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: seven or eighty six is when the color of money
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: came out right and everybody wanted to play pool, right,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: So that's when I started. Well then, now I started
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: watching pool a little bit, you know, right then, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: the two players that I wanted to be like, I
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: wanted to have the finesse of Efren Reyes.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: And the power of Earl Strickland.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: And then if you ever, if you get a chance,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: anybody can look at in the finals of the nineteen
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: ninety six US Open, nine ball, Steve Miserak is commentating
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: and we became really good friends, you know, from back
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: then he used to come to Hawaii all the time.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: And Steve is commentating on this match, and at one
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: point he says in that in that match.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: He says, he says, he said, this kid, he said he's.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Got the power of Earl Strickland and the finesse of
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Efron rays that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, dude, what do I do? After that?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I knew I was downhill after that.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Stricklan was from Greensborough, I believe.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think originally Goldsboro or something like that. But yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: right there.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Country town by Greenville actually, yeah, yeah, and he did
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: some I was there, I was somewhere where he ran
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: these racks. He won a million bucks. Yeah, you know
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: what that was?
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: That was that?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: That was that same week that I went up to Tulsa, Oklahoma,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: because we we were playing in the tournament in Dallas, Texas.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: C J.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Wilie's place.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: He did that. That was the one.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they put on a million.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Dollar dollar challenge if anyone can run break and run
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: ten racks, bak and run ten racks, and of course no.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: One's gonna be able to do that. That's nine ball,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: pretty nine ball, right, yeah, pretty hard to run ten
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: racks on this special promotional time. Earl strick On ran
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: ten racks broke and ran ten for million, and the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: company didn't want to pay him something. Yeah, I wand
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: up buying out for like six hundred thousand or so. Yeah,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: they bought out. Whatever they we're gonna go bankrupt the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: rest we can pay half the money or something like that.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he was a great, great player. Yeah still yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: still a great player. Do you ever see him still?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I talked to him all the time. I talked to
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: him last week.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to start a podcast on my own
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: little pool podcast. I hope you do it, and we're
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: gonna do it on there and do some instructional stuff
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: and all that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: He's a great he's great too.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's up for it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's up for it.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: But one thing we did in two thousand and eight, Uh,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: buddy of mine reached out to me and he says,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I was in Japan doing challenge matches, you know, pretty
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: famous in Japan, and we're going around and he says,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: you know, you think he could ever bring Earle here?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: And then so I went back home and then I
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: and I called Earl and I said, Earl, I said
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I got a deal, he said, We'll go. We'll go
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: to Japan and do challenge matches and exhibitions, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: for thirty nine days in a row, different city in Japan. Wow,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: and we love We did it until today, he said, Dude,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: that was one of the best times I ever had,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: thirty nine days.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: In a row.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: You I didn't really. So you've been all over the world.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I took me.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're in England or Europe. You've been all over
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Europe and in Asia. You've been all over the world.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: In Taiwan, my nickname is the King of the Money Games.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: And it seems like that over she's money. The money's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: better it is overseas, Like maybe is it the billiards
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: guys or something, the billiard community. It just seems like
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: they there's more money in pool overseas.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: It's a lot, a lot bigger. There's a lot more
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: corporate investment, you know. So and and it's, uh, it's
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: amazing to me that here in the United States. You know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: pool is an American pastime, right and we don't have
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: a professional tour. Yeah, we don't have one right now.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: It's like it's you know, there's a definite need right
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: now for it.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: So so what do you not now is a perfect opportunity.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Then what are you doing now? Uh? In the pool world?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: What do you got going? What's this new thing you
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: start on?
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm starting a professional tour in the USA, So
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: it's uh, and that's why I wanted to come on here,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: mostly because I created my own all offense game and
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: scoring system for pool. Okay, So so thank golf, bowling, darts,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: any game where you just shoot your number. Well, what
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: that does is because we're able to keep accurate statistics
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: for first time ever in Poolkay, it's a natural fit
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: for the betting. So that's where you know, uh, you know,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I'd like to get you know, that that traction going
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: and starting, you know, get some conversations with you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: some people in the betting world, because just off the
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: top of my head, I figured out that they're in
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: a fifteen week season, there's gonna be at least a
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: million possible bets.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Somebody can make.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, that's and we're creating a whole new
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: sport that doesn't exist, a whole new market.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: So that's a conversation I like to have with the
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: right people and see.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: You know, you maybe think about getting one of the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: big books behind them, like a DraftKings or fan or.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That'd be great. That'd be great. It's a natural fit.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe Westgate here because they are so much they are
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: so happy to have the fool players here. Like you said,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's twice a year. I see this place
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: sold out. You'll get a room. Everyone's carrying sticks and cue.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Oh now what you're carrying your cue? Do you just
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: carry a queue everywhere just in case? No.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I got a buddy of mine that wants a pool
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: lesson after this, so I told him I'm gonna I'm
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: gonna go.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go give.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Him a lesson. Yeah, I'm only in town for one day.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: So he was like, he said, can you you know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I need some help with my game. And I think
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: he's trying to get ready for that next week'.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: So now I told you Greg Balabushka, his father was
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the famous pool que maker Palabusha and Valabushka. That's that's
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: like the George George Is Georgie's is George's cues are
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: They still known as one of the best cues in
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wow.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: There it's like one of those pieces of art that
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: just stands at test of time. Balabushka, Zambodi, all of that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all. Yeah. I have to tell Greg that.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Greg followed me on Twitter. I followed him back and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I said, this can't be the same. Balabushka. Yeah, that
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: was my dad. My dad. Uh and and Greg came
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: to Vegas. Pretty cool, but that was the most famous
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: pool cue. Everyone wanted to.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Vaalabushka and and you know when they're gone, that's when
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: all the value goes up, because anything happens to it,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: you ain't never getting it again.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's when he died.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I think he died in the seventies, George, So that's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: why his stick was probably uh, it was probably his
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: sticks that he made, and he only makes so many.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, let me see if I could pull it up.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: George. Yeah, George died in nineteen seventy five. So George
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: nineteen twelve nineteen seventy five Russian born billiard's queue maker,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: arguably one of the most prominent members of that profession,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: so his full name and last name stands alone referred
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: to a custick making acoustic making in the United the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: United States, so it originally made them out.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Wow, it's so cool.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: It's just great, great stories on the Ballotbushkers and his cues,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and I know there's some of them are like five figures,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: like ten grand depends on the inlays.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I don't think you'll find even the
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: most plainest one that they were selling for like one
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five bucks back then.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: You can't get it for less than six seven thousand.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Now that's actually that's unbelievable. So when are you start
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: in the pool? When are you you're looking to start
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: this up by the summer.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as soon as we get I'm talking with a
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: couple there's an energy drink energy drink sponsor that's wants
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: on board.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And then I got a couple of investors.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: So the biggest thing is we got to get the
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: you know, partner with the right you know is if
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a streaming platform or a network
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: that wants to take it on.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: But we're going to own pool, so.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: There's no there is no professional USA tour, and we're
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: modeling it after the.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: PGA tour model.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: So it's going to be the exact same same kind
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: of a structure where you earn your tour card, you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: you know, the television or streaming platform, and then the betting.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: You know. Alan Hopkins has that big show that he
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: had those every year. I think it's like April and
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Right.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Do you have ever been super Billier's extras?
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I'll be there there, You're gonna be there.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I go every year.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Oh do you?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I went. I went, like one of the first years.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I like Allan a lot. Yeah, Allan. I also can
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: call him a friend. I've been with him many times.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, if I can get him on, he'll
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: come on. I'm sure to promote the show.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Yea year. He's a great guy.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: You've been to that the billiards.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I won the very first nineteen ninety three when he
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: had it in the Metal Ends Seacaucus.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I won the very first amateur event nineteen ninety three
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: because I was going to play the pro event.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: And then and he goes, he says, you know, I'm
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: doing an amateur thing here. And then I said, really,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: so yeah, you know you don't play on the pro tour,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: you can play in it.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: And I said everybody's gonna get mad. And he goes, oh,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: he said, you don't play, You're not professional, you know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: so you know? And then uh so then and I said, well,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: where's it played on? He says, on these tables? And
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: he pointed to a sea of about one hundred and
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: twenty eight tables and there were seven foot tables. And
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I've never seen a seven foot table before. Wow, so
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I said, I said, I said, really, see, you ever
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: played on the bar tables, you know, the small tables
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: because we play on nine foot tables.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: And then so I hit a couple of balls on it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I said, how do you ever miss on this thing?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: So I never missed the ball the whole week. Yeah,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: it was no one got mad that you be.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: They really didn't.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I couldn't played ever again. But that was the first one.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, no pros.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And I heard you rob my man Kevin Clark over
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Clarks up strant and that's funny. Well, he I like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I like, he wants you to play. Well, he wanted
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to play. He's happy to lose his money to you,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: he called me. He doesn't lose much money. Cool, Yeah,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: tell you that he's a great pool.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Play well, what happened was, I think he's seen me
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: at the Super Billier's Expo that year and I could
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: not make a ball. But he didn't know why. Oh,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: he just saw he couldn't make a ball, and he
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: was telling somebody, you guys said, Roundie, don't play like
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: he used to. Wow, And then I was and then
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I heard that, and then I so then I started
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: practicing a little bit, and then I and I got
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a right queue. I didn't have the right queue. That
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: that's you know, I didn't have any que actually. And
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: then because I was kind of phasing, you know, kind
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: of just teaching. Sure, so I was like I wasn't
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: really focused on playing. But then and then he then
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: he messages me and said, hey, when you're coming up
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: and doing your clinic, you want to play something, I'll
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: play like fifteen hundred and this. And then and I'm like,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: you play on in his pool, his pool, on his
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: home table.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his his table. Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: But it was fun. It's actually listen, I know you
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: were one of the best, but Kevin on his home table. Wow,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I think he's setting you up for a big one. Yeah, yeah, he's.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully he messages me again.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he's a good guy. He is nice, such
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a nice guy. I always hope he does well.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he know, he does good over there at that point,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: and he does.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: You know, it's such a dying sport. You have to
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: try to get these leagues. You have to try to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: get you know, leagues are a big thing, trying to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: get people in and up there up there too. It
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: snow's up there a lot, so he has a lot
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: of people. You know, you want an indoor thing. You
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: really can't play golf. Yeah, it snow's three four five
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: months out of the year. There freezing cold there right now,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: almost everywhere.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: That's where I used to go.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: So you know, I'm living in Hawaii, you know, so
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: at the time, all those years, and I wouldn't fly
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: out to Jersey until at least September because we want
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: the weather to be bad that way. Everybody's indoors, right,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: So I sense to be out there in the summer.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't be there in the summer now. And
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: now you're living outside of Atlanta.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Georgia, Yeah, Rome, Georgia. Yeah, what do you know?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you do there? Do you
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: have a home pool hall there or you don't really play.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Too much there.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I opened the Poolroom with Johnny Archer actually, but we
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: closed it down.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: It was it was about a year ago.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: But now I'm focusing on doing the tour, the Rocket
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Pool Tour, So I'm getting that and focusing all my
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: energy on creating tour because in twenty sixteen I got
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: inducted into the Hall of Fame and it was right
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: at that point that I decided that I want to
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: focus the rest of my life everything I do to
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: give back and help help, you know, prepare the way
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: for the future.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Like I said, You've always been one of the nicest
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: guys in this game.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: And where where can people find you or find more
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: information about this tournament?
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Go to the rocket Pool Tour dot com or yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: just spell it out the rocket Pool Tour dot com
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: and then uh and I got my contact information on there,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: or just find me anywhere. So yeah, I'm looking to
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: get this started, but we got to get everything. You know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: obviously it takes money to do it right.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, we need to get the right sponsors.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Nobody has figured out a way to get the corporate
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: guys involved right and also make it a successful business.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Model, right.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: So, and it's because we haven't changed the game. It's
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: over one hundred years we've been playing pool the same way.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable, over one hundred years offensive all defense store.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're gonna all I did was I just
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: took away all the fluff. All I cut off all
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: the fat from pool and left all the meat that
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: everybody wants.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Wow, And that's it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: So when you're watching it, you're gonna see all shot
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: making all so. Yeah, So when you're watching TV right
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: now on these channels, you're gonna look, you're gonna see
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: stuff that you actually want to see. You're not going
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: to see all like defensive strategy. Nobody can sit around
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: for three hours and watch a chess match anymore.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Sure they want wants to watch play safe And that's.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Not what we want to see.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm talking about one hundred million people that that's
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: going to sustain a sport.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Play safe guys, for you guys that don't know, play
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: safe is actually you're you're hitting a ball, so and
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you're hiding your ball behind another ball. It's it's a strategy.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Defensive strategy. Yeah, yeah, So I.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Took that out.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: And when you think of golf. Even golf is just
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: as a it's a it's a you know, similar game
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: to pool. Golf is all offense, right, nobody's nobody's playing
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: defense on each other.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: They're just trying to shoot your best score. Bowling, you're
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: just trying to make a strike at the time. Same thing. Darts,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: you're just trying to score as much as that guy.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: So that's what we did.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: We changed the game, change the rules, and we stumbled
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: onto the statistics. Like I said, now we're gonna like wow,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: now we can be on that level with all the
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: other major major sports.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Well, Rodney Morris, thanks for coming on. Let us appreciate it,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate you coming in just for this, and
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I hope I wish you my success in this and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I hope that this takes off.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much. I appreciate it. I'll proud
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome back to Wisecracks, Bill Krackerberger, John Orlando.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: This week we had, of course Rodney Morris, our pool
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: guest on billiards champion, some great stories by him. Uh
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: So we we're gonna have a little shortened version of
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: John and I I am in my home studio John
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: is over at d Rango and John super Bowl party.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: How'd your super Bowl go over there?
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Well, other than it being one of the why I
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: got these on, well, other than it being one of
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: the most boring super bowls, the party was fun, having
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: everybody over and stuff.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: But this this one put me to sleep.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: You two are three quarters pretty slow. Yeah, boring, and uh.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: By the time it picked up, I didn't even care,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, yeah, I almost went over.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: That would have been bad for the for the sportsbooks.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: That last run would have been real bad for the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: sports books. They called a holding call, and I had
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the numbers here, the Las Vegas numbers. Even though Seattle
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: won and Seattle money line, Seattle covered the line sixty
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: percent of the betters, depending how much sportsbook most of
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: them are held, around fifty eight to sixty percent of
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the betters were on Seattle. Despite all that, the sportsbooks
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: still won. They still won some good money here. So
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: let's see, I'm you're going to give you the number,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I'll give you the numbers over the years. So this
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: year's about ten million dollars was one this year between
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the Nevada sportsbooks. Last year twenty two million, but if
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I go back over the years, they've had years where
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen they only won a million bucks. Wait, yeah, wow,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: who do you remember Philadelphia forty one, New England thirty three? Wow,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: that's super They only won a million dollars off of
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty eight million
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: dollar handle. And then I'll go even further to say,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, one hundred and ninety million dollar handle,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety million dollar handle, can't amazing won
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: twenty five twenty two this year the lowest handle in
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: ten years, one hundred and thirty three million. Like I said,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: they won ten million bucks seven point four percent. You know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I look back at they look at these numbers though,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and there there they actually surprised me. I didn't know that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what the numbers were going to be.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Uh for Nevada, I didn't know. I didn't know what
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Seattle winning like that. I knew some of the in
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: most of the sportsbooks. I didn't know if they were
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: gonna have it. I knew they were gonna win, but
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I just didn't know how much they were going to win.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And it just goes to show me how much square
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: money is in the marketplace that Seattle can win the game,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: cover the game, but yet that that final out happens.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: And it was a very good super Bowl for me.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Over at wager Talk, I said this multiple times. They
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: asked me for a package like ten days before the
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So lucky I went six and zero on
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: that package of props, including the second half over seven
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and zero. That's impossible. I don't think I could do
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that again. Ten is very overall, real good super Bowl
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: for me, But I just see the crowds not as
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: busy though, especially maybe because of the Calshi's of the world,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the different sportsbooks. You know, Calshi handled ten times more
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: ten x handle than Nevada handled on the Super Bowl,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: so they have cut in for sure to the final
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: numbers here and the reason why Nevada is probably a
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: little bit slower for the Super Bowl. I seen rooms
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: were like eighty bucks, one hundred bucks. You could have
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: stayed many casinos for one hundred dollars Saturday and Sunday night.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked by that Super Bowl typically
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the busiest time of the year, so I was pretty supped.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: I bail that.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Uh so you said, you you they put together a
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: package for Super Bowl with you put six picks on it?
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: What and you went six? And oh yeah, what what
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: do you charge for that package? What did that package
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: cost people?
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Everything? You know, I'm slowly.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: I know you don't like talking about this, so I
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: so I like, I.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Want to transform the customers over to wag your talk
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: and we'll have that deal finalized in about a month.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I've never ever sold picks for that low. But they
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: charged like fifty bucks for the package.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: So that's incredible.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: That's what I was getting at is, Yeah, fifty dollars
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: and you handed back six winners.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: That is that was sick insane they got I think
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: it was fifty nine dollars to get everything, but just
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: to have I had. I had one of the plays
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: that they liked to grade at five percent, which I
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: told them I'm not putting the five percent on anything.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put two and a half percent, no problems.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: So when they have a five percent play, I tell
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: them my my percentage is going to be two and
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a half percent. And that also won. That was my
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: bigger play there, which was the over second half, which
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you could bet before the game. You could bet either
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: half over. You can also make a bet second half
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: more points than the first half. But I just didn't
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: like the LA dollars thirty on that. So yeah, it
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: was a great super Bowl for me, great super Bowl
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: for anyone that trust in me. Like I've said every year, listen,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I do this for a living. This is not someone
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: that just sells games and doesn't bet serious amounts of money.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: You're welcome to ask any sportsbook manager if that's the case.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Spot on crack. I gave out. I told everyone, yeah,
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: well yeah, but Patriots in the over.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: So you know I'm serious. Now, people the people that
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: do you you people that liken some gribe and comment,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: you gotta know this. You can't pick on John for this.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: There's nothing like, uh, you know, John doing this. There's
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with this. You tell the shoots. You're very transparent.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And that's why I locked up that site on go
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Daddy years ago back against John dot Com. I'm gonna
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: open at one of these days. I just haven't time
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and effort into that. Yes, a wrong consistency, John, thank
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: you very much. But yeah, you got a nice little
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: nice new shirt on though you look so you look
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: so nice. So so something must do, something must be
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: going well. How about the twenty four hour show John,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: that went good? I was on there. I was on
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: there for for for a segment. You had a lot
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: of people there.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: My god, you had like yeah, man, you had like
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: that back room.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: You had all those people that were waiting. You had
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: like a little circus performers on, Like I felt you
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: were like Pt. Barnum and you had like all different
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: kinds of people on. Like I'm not going to go
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: into anything, but yes, a couple couple mixtures of different
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: things going on there. Nice.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: There was there was, there was that was very well put. Yeah,
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: we had we had some fun sponsors. We had Pink
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: Cherry as a sponsor.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: And I'll let the let the our viewers can type
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: the name Pink Cherry in and figure out what that
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: is all about. Uh. And so we had we had
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: some fun segments with that and then built my guys
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: over it Built Basics where I'm rocking a full. You
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: mentioned the new shirt. This whole ensemble is from my
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: favorite clothing brand, Built. They sponsored the podcast. I changed Built, Bill,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this. I changed into
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: a different Built outfit every hour on the hour, for
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: twenty four straight outfits.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: That they were nice. They were nice enough to send
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: me twenty four different outfits.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in all honesty, I might have only got about
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: twenty one outfits in That's why I'm wearing this today.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I would have wear this anyway.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: But it's hard.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: It's harder than you think to change every hour with
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: the way that show unfolds.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: But it was a lot of fun. It's the sixth
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: year we did it. I look forward to next year.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: I thank you for coming by. It's always good to
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: have you on.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: And it was fun.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice. It was nice to actually come
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: by and uh, spend some time with you guys, and
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and your your your friends are really nice. Thanks man,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: A bunch of nice guys. You have some you know,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of civilian friends. I like them,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: and then you have a crazy then you have a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: lot of crazy friends that were Yeah, yes, let's get
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: so anyway. Yeah, So the Vegas did good for that,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: but I you know, I was out last couple of nights.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: The town has cleared out. Yesterday I was at the Fountain, Yeah,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: and there was just nobody there yet yet. The pizza there.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I have pizza there yesterday. It was the best pizza
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I've had since I've been in Vegas. Probably was that
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: pie that was made yesterday for me at Miami Slice.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Miami Slice a great, great, great pie yesterday, but the
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: whole place was totally dead. Though it's amazing. I really
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: think that, not only because it the Calcis of the world.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I think that people are so scared to come to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Vegas because it's not that destination where the cheap beats
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the fun and it's just not anymore, especially with all
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: social media talking about how greedy these corporations have become,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: with parking fees, with resort fees, with you know, even yesterday,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I mean that pizza was forty three dollars for a pie. Yeah,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that's a lot, but there's other places in the Town's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: even more than that. Over at Caesars at sixty six.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I think it was for a pie. So we're back home.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: It's what is it in New York and New Jersey?
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Twenty bucks? I mean, the best pizza in the world
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: for twenty dollars for a pizza. Oh, I should have
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: brought on this. There's this new LA pizza spot. This
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: guy's from I think he's from the Bronx. I see
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: for the Bronx from Brooklyn. He's from Brooklyn. There's a
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: new La pizza spot I have to try. I sent
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the let me see, like a find the video real quick.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I sent the video. This I'm gonna see if you've
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: ever heard of it. It's funny. A lot of people
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: were saying, Oh, did you try? What's the one that
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you you?
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: You turned me on to La Monica's Lamonica's New York
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Pizza in Westwood on Gaily best the best. No one
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: will ever convince me there's better pizza.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Well, this this place is I really think that you're
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: gonna that you're gonna like this? Really? Where is it?
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: It's it's on a corner. Here it is. I found it,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: all right?
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Why were you just in l A or something recently?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: On Twitter? This place? Okay? Hold on, all right, here
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: it is. I'm gonna give you the name of the place.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: This this place looks so good. And this guy is
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: from the city. I was just like, I gotta go
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: to this place. John, I'm sorry, I'm trying to find it. Boy.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: It's on the corner. It is there. It is why
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: this La Pizza doesn't care about Ah, very good, very good. Okay,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: So john let me let me see if you know
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: this guy this place. Here's the guy and he's uh,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: he's he's him himself. Look at that Sicilian pizza. I
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: love Sicilian. Look at that Sicilian pizza in Los Angeles.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Look at this place. No, wow, he's using that. He
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: actually said, I'm using the most expensive He said, I'm
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be one of the more expensive pizza because I'm
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: using the expensive products from back ho ho. Yeah, okay,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: from back hope, from back home, and uh yeah, this
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: is this place. And I still don't know the name,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: and I apologize, but he's using some of the some really,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I can't believe he doesn't have his name on it.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Old on Mart Mart Pizza.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Can that be the name of place?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: You cut out?
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: Say it again?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Can the name of the place be smart Pizza? Can
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: that be the name of the place. Weird name? Look,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: he's on a corner there, So he's on the corner there.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: That's this pizza place, Johnny, look at the camera real quick. Okay,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: he's from Brooklyn. I just want to I want to
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: let you know you got to try this place, and
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I apologize for the people. We'll get the name of
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: this place. You know, before we go off air, John,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you know anything about about Steve Win what happened here?
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: This was kept this was kept out of the media. Here.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: No one wants to really talk about this. This this
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: this place. All right. This is on the Slice app.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: By the ways, I don't use the Slice app, but
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: it looked really good. Anyway. What's the Slice Appuh, he
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: says slice app. I heard of the Slice.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: App where you go find pizza.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that leads you to Pizzerias.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, genius, genius giving.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I'm giving a free a free plug for the Slice app.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: So Steve Wins he had this million dollar he had
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: this million dollar. Uh. They someone tried to shake him
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: down for a million bucks in Vegas and and I'm
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: up there we go John, Finally, finally, finally, fine, Angel
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: City Pizza. Angel City Pizza. I want you to try
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: that next time you're in La.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's okay, look on Instagram right now.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So Steve Win, Yeah, you know, they want to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: keep these stories out out of the media. And I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: get it. I get it. So this Las Vegas man
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: was arrested for trying to extort Steve Win out of
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: a million dollars. This Las Vegas resident, Michael Louisa Mawisa,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: was arrested Monday for a one million dollar extortion plot
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: against Steve Win. Seventy nine threatening emails and packages showed
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: up at the Billionaires Florida Residents Is twenty twenty three. Now,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: it wasn't difficult for to find this guy that was
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: threatening him because he used his real information, his real name,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: his real phone number, his real address, and he was
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: arrested for I mean, there's there's his photo. I mean,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: there's the guy. Yeah. Yeah, he looks like an astortionist. Yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he was saying that I'm going to reveal
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: some of your tax information. And it's just just amazing
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: that this stuff can go on, that it really is
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: try to shake down Steve Winn. A new coach by
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the way over here in Las Vegas. Clint Kubiak, I'm
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: not going to put too much time on this because
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. The raiders are just so bad, just
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: so so bad. I just don't think that nothing's going
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: to help them for a couple of years. And that's
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a shame. I love a couple of the players on there.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Look what does it like, Max Crosby, Jesus John, I
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: have a couple of his subjects to go into here
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: or I go into them. I want to read this email.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: It's about this our sponsor and the email this week.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: This is interesting because I always feel if somebody has
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: two thousand dollars to bet on a parlay, I like
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: those little twenty fives to win one hundred thousand, it's
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: something to have fun. This guy got two thousand to
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: win one hundred and seventeen thousand, fifty eight to one,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: and the bet is Miami. He has Miami, Florida. He
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: already won that plus seven and a half Michigan to
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: reach the final four, which they're they're headed there Detroit
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Pistons to win the Eastern Conference, Tampa Bay Lightning to
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: also win their Eastern Conference. Now, why that the reason
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: why I'm gonna say I wouldn't sell this is right
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: now as I'm saying it's worth forty nine to seventeen
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: is what wager wire is saying the wager Wire app.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: But you know the reason why I'm saying that I
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: would not sell this this ticket is because right now,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: it looks like a couple of these things. Our favorites
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: the Pistons to win the East, Lightning to win their
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: East Michigan Final four. Let's I would wait until Michigan
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: gets to the final four here to try to think
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: about a buyout, which will probably go up. I'm gonna
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: say six, man, that's six maybe fivefold, so it's gonna
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: go up a lot more. You know, the Pistons are
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: headed to a number one seed right now. Lightning currently
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: have the best record in the East. I'm not selling
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: this ticket, but uh, this ticket for two thousand bucks.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised someone that has two thousand dollars to throw
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: down on such you know, a crazy parlay, because these
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: parlays are crazy, you know that's what I feel. So
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: but so this for someone to throw throw down two
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: thousand bucks, I'm surprised he would even head over to
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: wager Wire and the wager wire app to see if
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: he can get a buyout. I mean, you bet two
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars, guy, your your buyo. It's only forty nine yea, yeah,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: you bet that kind of money. Let's yeah go a
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: little further. So wagerwire dot Com, the wager wire app
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: for that I want to talk about. Let's go back
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: to my tweet. I put a tweet up. I seen
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: this in I think it was in China. I see
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: this in China. Let's see is it in China? Yeah?
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's in China. Yeah it is. Okay, So
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: these people now have options to melt their gold, so
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: they can go right to a machine and they run
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: of money. You can see they melt their gold and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: they can get instant money from melts. Putting their money.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Putting their gold right now. So if you go broke,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: you can just put your diamond ring in the thing. John,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: this will probably be good for you.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, where is that I'm asking
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: for a friend.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is I'm sure they listen. They have
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to rob you first of all. I'm gonna ring see
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: you coming to Las Vegas casinos, which it's not really
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: coming to casinos. You can't put you can't put something
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: that gets up to twenty two hundred degrees in a casino.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening unless they really have
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: some Just think about that twenty two hundred degrees. It melts,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: it verifies and purifies, the weight and verifies them, and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: it actually says it verifies the purity and weight of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: then transfers the value minus feet of course to your
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: local bank account. This will devastate local pawn shop industry.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know that because you if you pay over
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the price like this has got to be a giant markup.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: It's got toolved. I would I would think.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: I would love to know what kind of numbers that's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: that does over like six months.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to know how the numbers it does.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: You're you're absolutely right, but yeah, I put a video
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: up of the Fountain Blue last night. That pizza got
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: two hundred thousand views already, the pizza, but not only
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: the pizza. It's because the food court was so dead
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and and the town was so dead. But that you
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: know that that happens a lot after super Power. Yeah,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: the town dies down and that does happen a lot,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: So I get it. Like it, Now, what do you do?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Do you? Are you still hanging around? And do you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: go anywhere? Like I'm thinking of going somewhere for a
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: couple of days and uh events.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: Where would you go?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Well? After march Man, where are we going? Have to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I have to go to Florida to cash and tickets
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: of hard rock. But it's just it's nice to slow
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: down after the super Bowl. What do you do, John,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: do anything?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: I just plow through. Just just another week, same same
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: thing for me.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl doesn't take what it takes out of me.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: You know what it takes out of you, out of me.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: It's you, that's your You're you're going so hard, Bill,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: Like I mean when I it was almost rude of
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: me to ask you to do the twenty four hour
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: because I know during super Bowl you're you must have
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: done how many shows are you on super Bowl week?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: You you must be on twenty different things?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah you can. You can hear me. I had to
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: minimize the screen for a second, but you can hear me, right, Yeah,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I hear you. Okay. I did about fifteen shows. Yeah,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I did about fifteen other shows. I did a big
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Fox show, and I kind of didn't realize. I always
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: don't realize doing Mike this guy, Mike's show nation wide, nationwide.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: It's such a big show because I have relatives and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: people that that that that are telling me, hey, Bill,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: we see you, you know, we see you over home
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: like they see me in Jersey and Pennsylvania. And this
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: one guy, one guy that I don't know, put me
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: put a tweet on Twitter. He took a photo of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: me in Boston. So I think it's on. I think
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: it's on all the different networks, the Fox affiliates in
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: the big in the big areas. So I thought that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: was kind of cool. So but yeah, that was a
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: big show. And I just and I gave out winners,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: which I'm so happy about. You know that that's the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: main thing.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I get I get more upset if I give out
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: losers to people then I do losing my own money.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: No, I get it, Yeah, I get it. I get it.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I talked to one sportsbook manager. He
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: said that they didn't get any big bets. They're used
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: to getting five, six, or even ten big bets of
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand or more, and uh, that sportsbook did
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: not get any big bets. He was concerned. I think
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: that that that those bets probably went to the calcium
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: market and those big markets, I guess. Or it could
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: be like stocks were down, Bitcoin was down, so people
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: just got a little more conservative too. It mean, it
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: could be a lot of different variables. But over at Circa,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: they got a million dollar bet Patriots money line about
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: ten days before the game, and they were rooting. It's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: based on that bet. They were rooting for Seattle for
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit. They were for a little bit because
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: they knew they were gonna got a lot of Seattle money. Well,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours before the game, someone came in one
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: point one million dollars and also bet Patriots money line,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: so that made them really roote. I'm reading what Jeff
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Benson said here. That made them really like. I'm gonna
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: give you Jeff Benson's quote, it was a hell of
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: a day given our future position. But also we took
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: two million dollar plus events, which worked out really well
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: for us. So Circa did really well in the Super Bowl.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Some of the other casinos didn't fare so well. Somebody
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: actually like broke even. But like I told you, almost
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: the ten million dollar win for the city. And you
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: know something I've seen in an article. I like this.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I like bet MGM's doing this. So they're now suspending
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: any customers who harass athletes if they find I love
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: that you have an account and you're harassing athletes after
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the game. And I needed two more points for you.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I needed it. They're suspending their accounts, so I like
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: to hear. I love that. I wish I wish more
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: sportsbooks would take that stance if they find out about
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: them suspending, you know, about them going after athletes. Matter
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: of fact. In New Jersey, I like this. A New
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Jersey lawmaker wants to ban text messages from the sportsbooks
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: about enticing you to gamble. So like they'll send you
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: a text. I'm gonna I'm gonna give John a clip
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: of this too, you know, bet Now, come on in now.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Every day you'll get hit every day from these casinos
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: and from from these I'm not gonna take casinos from
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: these sports books that are new to the country. Hey
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: you got this bonus, You got that bonus you got
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: You know, there's every day. If you don't opt out
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: or slow down those responses, you get hit up every day,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: every week. And I like that New Jersey lawmaker. Thank
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: you you, Senator Andrew Zwicker. I never heard of him,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: but thank you for He seeks to prohibit all licensed
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: gambling entities in the Garden State from utilizing push notifications
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: and text messages to promote their gambling companies. I am
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: really happy that that's happening, and I hope it does
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: go through. Meanwhile, I told you in person, gambling revenue
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Atlantic City up three percent, two point nine billion online,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: you know, just killing it. I already said these areatics.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I don't want to bore people. I've given these numbers already,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: but this will at least listen, we're humans, we're humans.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: We had Vegas Polici on when he had his hands
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: together and he was pounding the table about the executive
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: is not knowing what we go through. We go through
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: enough vice and enough peer pressure, enough company corporate pressure
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: to gamble, to be with our buddies to do this.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: And now I don't care what as you're at. We
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: don't need to be harassed on the phone constantly and said, hey,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: don't forget the gamble today, don't forget the gamble today.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with this, Senator, and I hope that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: becomes a law. But you know this, sometimes what's the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: words too big to fail? Sometimes things are too big
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: to fail. So I hope that does become law. And yeah, John,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I really don't have anymore you all right? Everything else there?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: No, I'm excited when one one good thing. When the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl ends, it means football is over, which means
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: Baseball's right around the corner.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: Bill, right around the corner.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: You'll be looking to put people in homeless shelters real soon. Okay, great,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: well look forward to that. I'm gonna probably get that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Psycho going to bet against John psychohing. I got to
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: put some money into that. But guys, thank you for
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the whole year. Thanks for watching through super Bowl. We
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. We're gonna be on all year around here.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: John and I Wisecracks. Thanks to John Hoaglan, our guy
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: that puts these together, our producer. Thanks for wager Talk
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: for giving us this space. And I appreciate the people
• 1:08:22
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• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: all of them. Appreciate any everything you guys do, and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: we'll see you next week on Wise Cracks.