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Week 17 Mailbag + Freddie Andersen ROS? + Fowler vs Jones? | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Bangor Management, the Fantasy hockey podcast with Jake, Josh
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and Kevin. Today we're going to be doing
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our first mailbag episode. Thank you for that, but not for
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the intro. Sorry, sorry.
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I lagged. I lagged.
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Usually AI Kevin's the one who lags, but at this time it was
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me. Alpages.
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Yeah. So you have asked this questions
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and now we're here to answer them.
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And it's really exciting and we are happy to interact with you
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guys anytime. So, yeah, look forward to this.
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Kevin, without further ado. Yeah, before we get started,
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Nice. Alright, so we're going to do
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some some questions. These are mostly from we posted
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a Reddit thread on the fantasy hockey subreddit asking for any
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questions and then also anything that trickled in on Twitter or
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Instagram. So our first question comes from
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Armin from Twitter and he asks Seth Jones or Cam Fowler rest of
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season. Also, what to do with Norris,
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Dobson and Lozon? This is this feels like a lot to
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unpack. I love arm and arms are #1 fan,
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but Seth Jones versus Fowler, I know his league has plus minus
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as well. So you gotta take that into
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account. I'm listen, I've kind of been on
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the filler train, but I think Seth Jones is heating up.
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He's got back on the P1 and I think they trade him as well.
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And if he gets traded, I really like the rest of the season
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outlook. I'm gonna go with Seth Jones.
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Even independently of being traded, the reason that one
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would lean Fowler in a plus minus league is because the
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Blues are simply better than the Blackhawks.
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But we've discussed this pretty extensively.
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You can't predict plus minus. It's not a thing.
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So that's why I would just say pick the guy with a better
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peripherals, better offensive potential.
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I mean, right now Fowler's on power play too, for instance,
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you know. So I would just go with Seth
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Jones. And yeah, the plus minus will
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fluctuate, but one player doesn't make your whole team in
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that category. Also, what to do with Norris and
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Dobson? Or should we just Josh?
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Want to just keep your picks? Yeah, I still got some stuff to
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see here. So pretty much I just agree with
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everything you guys said. I I, I think that Jones is
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probably better at the roster. To be honest, yeah, no, I'm
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definitely on the Jones train. He's, I mean, last month.
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Fowler actually has more points, but I don't expect that to stick
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at the worst for Jones. I think it'll be the same.
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Jones has more power play points.
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He gets to play with Bedard. I haven't heard any rumors about
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a trade, but if it does. Happen.
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He's like one of those defensemen that is kind of like
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sought after from other teams that need.
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He just has that massive contract, so I don't think it
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would be tough to see it happen. Did whole money for sure.
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That I don't think it's strong enough rumors to consider it in
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this question, if that makes sense.
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Like I haven't done like, you know, it's kind of like vague
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right now. So let's just look at it at face
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value, regardless of trade or not trade, I think Jones is
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better. He's gonna be better for points
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and for bangers. So I think I think it's an easy
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choice with Jones, but Fowler has been very nice surprise
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lately. Yep, alright, Norris Dobson
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lives on. What are we doing?
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And I'm I'm just, I feel like obviously if you have IR plus
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you just stash those guys there. But if you need to spot like,
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who's worth cutting? Until we rank them like compared
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to each other or just like. Just just in general.
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Well, I think Lawson's the easy cut here.
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I love him. He, he was my boy last year.
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You know he's a hits monster. But in bangers league, would you
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consider cutting him? Yeah, he's definitely the most
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replaceable. Look, this is all on the
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assumption that you don't have an IR spot and it's like this,
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we don't know when he's coming back.
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It's not worth holding a dead roster spot for who knows how
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long for a guy like goes on. So I think like as much as I
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love him, I think. He's if you're really deeply.
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It depends how long he's out for, but The thing is when you
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don't know like to just have a dead roster spot, it depends how
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long he's out for. It depends where you are in the
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standings. Obviously the more comfortable
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you are in the standings, the more leeway you have for holding
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players like this. If you're fighting for a playoff
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spot, you can't afford to hold a player like who's just not
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playing. So there's a lot of variables,
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but out of the three listed, he is the one I'm most comfortable
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dropping. Yeah, I I think when the same.
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Same for sure, no doubt. About I guess the question is
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like with Norris and Dobson, So Norris right now it's said his
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precautionary, we don't know if it's anything serious or not.
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So I definitely would not be dropping Norris because if he
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could be back in like a couple. Days so he's gonna be the line
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one people one like still great deployment on a team that has a
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great playoff schedule and that he's just like a good player
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too. So do not want to just let that
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go. Yeah, exactly.
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So I guess the most interesting one is Dobson, because he both
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has a very long timeline and is the best player of the three.
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So, and we're talking assuming you can't just stash him, what
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do you do? I mean, I, I, you can't drop
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dubs and I think if it's week to week, you just gotta bite the
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bullet. If it's me, like I'm putting
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them on my IR and just picking up his replacement, whoever ends
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up P1 and, and dealing with that.
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But if you don't have that luxury, I mean, I don't see
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where you can drop Dobson. I think it's too valuable when
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he's healthy. If you're fighting for a playoff
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spot and you really need to maneuver like no IR spots or
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anything, then like maybe try. To if he's out for two weeks,
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are you dropping him? No, of course not.
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But like, I'm talking like a month plus, you know what I
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mean? Like if that's where it's at,
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because week to week can be that.
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I would honestly try to like put him in a trade for a team that
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is higher in the standings. Yes, you're gonna unfortunately
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be selling them lower. But I mean, you don't really.
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Have a choice or send them in a package for Sergachev.
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Interesting. Yeah, you could do that.
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Dobbs is a bigger name and Kevin has mentioned that he believes
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in Sergiev more given. The injury have to be a package.
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He might be able to do that one for one.
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If Dobsons, Dobsons, Dobsons potentially out for multiple
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weeks, right so. Yeah, that's a good one.
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Yeah, at the end of the day, it's like you can say this about
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any guy who's like 90 plus percent owned who was injured
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for awhile and you don't have the R spot.
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You know, these some guys are just undroppable.
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They like the second you dropped them, Sure it helps you in the
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short term, but you're essentially admitting defeat.
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You know, because you can't. Like this guy was what, a top
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like 7 draft pick? Like top seven round draft pick
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for anyone who has. Them I mean, he definitely
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underperformed his draft, first draft spot.
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But I just want to say if I'm a Dobson owner and I'm like, let's
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say I can and replacing its value is I'm trying to I'm
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picking up Ryan Pulock, who's probably getting the one spot
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and I'm riding with that for the moment and just seeing if
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there's better options available.
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But what are the alternatives? Like a low rider from Boston or
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I don't even know who else was? Virgin we.
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Had yeah Spurgeon Spurgeons interesting but it's category
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coverage is not as good so I'd roll with Pollock and test it
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out. But it's pretty would be my
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second option. Let's move on to the next one.
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Alright, so the next question the Pork Man on Reddit asked,
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assuming the JT Miller trade happens, which destinations do
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you prefer over others? Some rumored teams are the
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Rangers, Carolina, Dallas, and New Jersey.
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So I think we had discussed JT Miller a lot in our news episode
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already this week. So I think let's view this less
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on how we think a trade effective and more on the
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specific destinations and how they compare to each other.
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Yeah, yeah. My favorite destination would be
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Dallas than Carolina. Dallas because they have a
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better playoff schedule. Carolina because they're a good
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team. They need it, you see.
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I think he'd be the most impactful production wise on
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Carolina in terms of like elevating the team.
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Rangers in New Jersey obviously are sick teams, but they have
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bad playoff schedules, so I would be less enthused about
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that. But in terms of production, he'd
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be sick anywhere you go, to be honest.
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For me it goes Carolina, then Dallas, then Rangers, then
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Devils, and that's simply because I think that if JT is
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going to be elite JT, he needs to be the best guy like or one
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of the best guys on the team. Carolina has a great team, but
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other than Aho, they don't really have a consistent point
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for game plus player. So if they can put them online
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to over like Cook and Emme, which is kind of a joke or
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whatever, you know, like I think that's super valuable.
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Don't honestly, I'm really hesitating between Rangers and
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Dallas. To me that's kind of
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interchangeable, but. Just look where he's not in the
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lineup on either of those teams. Like what do you think, Josh?
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Yeah, I think Caroline is the easiest latest lot in because
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he's gonna be that line 2C for sure.
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Yeah, he plays with, he plays with Jarvis or Switch or nature
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is pretty much. And that'll be really.
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Like the way I look at this is a bit different.
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First of all, playoff schedule. Let's take that out of it just
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for a second because obviously that is a huge factor.
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But I'm gonna try and view this more objectively like team wise
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where he gets the best production.
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So I'm looking less his even strength deployment more where
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he's gonna be the most impactful on a power play one unit.
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So I'm looking at some of these power play 1 units.
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And the one that I think is the clearest one that he's gonna
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come in and make a big splash is New Jersey, because I think he
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comes in and immediately replaces Stephen Nason and.
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But they want Mason in front of the net, though, like they have
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they have Timo Meier, who they're paying 8 million, who's
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giving people one, right? So like.
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Yeah, but I just don't see them trading for I don't see anyone
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really trading for JT and not putting him on the on the 1st
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power play unit. But like I see like the most
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glaring hole of like an easy spot.
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Also their place been really bad lately so if they made this
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trade it would be in the hopes that he can.
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Help. But if if they go, if he goes in
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New Jersey, like somebody's gotta be going the other way,
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right? Like it's, it's gotta be
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somebody like probably like a I mean, it would be crazy if team
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went the other way. That'd be nuts.
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But like that would be nuts. They probably give like one of
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the young guys, like maybe Nathan plus a Dawson Mercer or
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something, I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
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So anyway, so I'm seeing I see like the biggest like clear spot
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where he would I think make the have the best.
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Our plate deployment is New Jersey.
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Obviously they don't have a great playoff schedule.
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I also like Dallas until recently because they were
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struggling a lot on the power play.
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So when I look for teams that are struggling more on the power
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play, because then they'll look at him as kind of like the
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savior, like they'll be like we're trading for him with the
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active goal of him improving our power play when you have a team
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that's already kind of killing it.
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But you just slotting and get that production as well.
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There's too many mouths to feed on Dallas so.
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That's my problem. Yeah, but he'd be one of the
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main mouths to feed, like who's who's better on Dallas and JT
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Miller. It's like maybe Jason.
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Robertson yeah. Robert Well, yeah, but they just
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have so many good offensive players that like.
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If he goes to Dallas, he's gonna be on the line, Absolutely.
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It's gonna be him. Jason Robertson.
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Is on line 1. Yeah, exactly.
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For sure. And he'll he could send her that
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line. They didn't even put Rupert
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hints back in there after he got.
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For sure. Yeah, right.
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It's Johnston, Robertson and and Dadonov.
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So I don't see Miller go in there and then Johnston could go
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to the wing and. This was my whole point.
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Offline. This is my whole point before
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though, is that JT Miller has succeeded being the number one
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guy on the team when I think he's like, yes, he's going to be
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that number one guy there, but not by like miles like he was on
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Vancouver. I just, I don't know, I don't
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see it working as much on Dallas.
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Carolina is the best destination for him and.
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That's great, but I think and is my least favorite destination
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for just because like, because it's Rod.
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Yeah, because like I wouldn't put it past Rod to not put him
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on the 1st power play. That'd be nuts.
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I mean if. Yeah, last year he didn't have
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technically on the 1st power play for like the.
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Entire. Yeah, I know.
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Like he's done. He does crazy stuff like that
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and you look at their play right now, like who's getting bumped
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off? I think I think nature is the
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first name. Then it's probably sketch.
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Yeah. Like they did last.
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Year, that's what we would, you know, that's what they should
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do, but I wouldn't put it past them to try and like next level
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in and be like, oh, maybe. We won't have two you did or
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whatever. Yeah, exactly.
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So Josh, what's your ranking then?
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OK. I have Carolina last.
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I think, I think I have New Jersey first because I think
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they're really struggling and and they would look to him to
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kind of really like fix that situation and because like I
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mentioned. They have, but is that you're
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saying you're saying you didn't want him most or did most
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benefit from getting him? The question is, who would you
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want him to go to the? Most best, OK, I think a big
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part of where he's gonna be the best is where they really are
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looking to him. Not as it's kind of like you
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said and where they want him to not just be a complementary add
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on to a team that's already doing well, but more like a
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savior that's gonna come help them.
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That's where I would like want him to end up.
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So I think new jerseys like that.
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I think Rangers are like that, but the Rangers is tough because
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they're probably 1 unit is so like, you know, kind.
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Of but the Rangers feel like the most seamless fit for him, to be
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honest. Yeah.
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I'm going, I'm going. Caroline is definitely my last
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one and I think, I think I think I have New Jersey as my as my
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favorite location for him. I think just getting also to
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play with guys like either Jack Hughes, Nico Hischer, Jasper
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Brat, you know, like I think these are all gonna be like guys
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who can really work well with him.
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And then I have like Dallas and and Rangers kind of in the
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middle. That's fun for me.
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Yeah, I'm going actually I'm going Carolina Rangers, Dallas
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Devils, which is wild that we have like our plan for split
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like not to be contrary and it's just like I'm seeing it
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differently. It's yeah.
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Wow, this is fun. This is.
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Fun, I think. I think for me, because my first
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picks were given playoffs schedule.
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Playoff schedule aside, I still think my two favorites are
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probably Dallas and Rangers, then New Jersey and Carolina
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because the power play is a big thing.
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Just the risk of him not being on PP1 would kind of steer me
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away but. You guys are finally listening
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to my coach Coach hatred list. Of owner, I don't want it to get
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bumped off. So now I'm like, they should not
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go to Carolina. Yeah, that was that was a good
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one. The next question.
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Anytime JT comes up this year, there's just so much to talk.
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About I know. Let's move on to the next one.
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And his real name is Jonathan. Jonathan, in case anybody
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forgot. Yes, sorry, sorry.
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That affects anyone's decisions. Then exactly exactly.
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Alright, next on Reddit we have D curls.
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I think he left us a comment on uh, on one of our Spotify
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episodes. So, you know, shout out for
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commenting? He asked.
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Shot I'll be curls. Yeah, first year of Bangor Cats
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keeper league where you get to keep one of each position plus
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the util and the keeper has no limit on how long you can keep
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them and no loss of draft pick associated with the keeper.
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And now he's asking, he's got pretty much all his positions
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figured out except for right wing and he's got a choice of
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three guys to keep for next year and possibly indefinitely.
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So the three options are this affectionate COV, Timo Meyer,
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and Tage Thompson. What do you guys think?
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How would you rank the? Three right at the bottom,
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eliminating Timo. This is such a fun thing.
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Like I love that league setting. So cool we don't play keeper
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league we should keep really would be sick.
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Yeah, this is really cool. Wow.
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But I'm also eliminating Teemo for sure.
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It depends if the if the bangers league has Pimms of keeping.
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Fetch it does. It does.
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It has pimms. OK, I'm keeping fetch.
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US. OK, I think I'm keeping switch
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just because, I mean, they're both young.
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Him and Tage are both young, but the the Pimms really puts me
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over the edge. If there was no pins, I'd
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probably go to page. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Tage
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just only because like I don't think special Markov on
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Carolina, not that there's any chance he's going to get traded
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whatever, but although him for JT that'd be fun.
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Could you imagine? Wow.
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I actually think especially could thrive on a different team
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because as you mentioned the coach stuff is a disaster.
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But let's just say status quo. He's on Buffalo and then special
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is on Carolina. I would take Tate.
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I just think his point ceiling is considerably higher than both
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Teemo and Soshnikov. That's I'd be considerably
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higher. Yeah, I mean, what's special is
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best in a year like 70? .8 I feel like that's like,
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yeah. That's kind of what you just got
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and. What was it can be over point
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per game. Yeah, well, didn't you get like
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100 points at one point page? I don't think so.
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Did he I think are close? Maybe, but.
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Close to 40 goals also I think. But either way, it's a bangers
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league and Tage does not hit. Yeah, but he shoots like an
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animal. I know that.
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Four points, sorry. No, no, that's fine.
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But OK, so I mean, just to to finish it off, I fully agree
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with the Meyer as the last choice.
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He's just not in the foreseeable future.
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Cracking car play one. It's unfortunate.
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He should be. But he should, yeah.
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So he's definitely out. And then between the two others,
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it's another one of those situations where it's like, do
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you choose the guy who's gonna get you the hits and Pimms, or
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do you choose the guys get the shots and points?
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I'm building in a bangers league.
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I'm building my team around a guy like switch.
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Yeah, we've, we've seen that you do it all the time.
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But I think, I think I gotta go with Tage on this one.
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I just think that also another thing to think about is we're
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talking like this is a keeper, like indefinite keeper, right?
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Yeah. So it's not just about this
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year, it's not just about next year, it's about long-term.
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Yeah. Do you believe in Buffalo being
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a successful team long? Term.
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Yes, I know they're a tire. Fire and they're just that's a
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tough call to make, but. The thing is that like.
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You know, Caroline is gonna be so good always.
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No, I think, I think Carolina is in their window right now and I
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think they're. Also tedious 27.
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Howard. Batch 24.
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Yeah, I mean, that's not like. Is it 3 year difference?
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Yeah, but I don't know, I think, I think I'm going to age.
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I think Buffalo can only improve and Tage has shown that he's
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already this good with Buffalo sucking whereas.
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Caroline But would you be shocked if Tage has never gets
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back to 94 points? No, yeah, not necessarily, but
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I'd be shocked if special Nakov outpaces him in points and like
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a given year. But it's close enough and also
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Sketch is getting you like two more hits and Pimms, which in a
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league with Pimms, though, it's so valuable to have a guy that's
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like that valuable for other categories, also be super
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valuable for Pimms. That's all I'm saying.
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I'm going fetch. You guys are outnumbering.
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But that's between the two. I think we all agree, Myers, the
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third choice. But I think I'm going to age.
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But I mean, it's also it's like you said, to tell you like
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building your team. You know, like I like building
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my team with these hundred points, like potential guys with
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crazy shots. Like for me, the shots on goal
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is my favorite category to build a team around.
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So there's. The fact that stage could be
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like a four shots on goal per game guy like is very intriguing
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to me. There's one more thing just
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who's gonna get picked higher in illegal like special coverage?
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Probably Tage. So yes, it's not associated with
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draft position now, but coming into next year, you're not gonna
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have to spend as high of a pick if you want to pick fresh Nikov
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again. So that's like worth thinking
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about, right? I mean, you're going to have to
18:59
pick. Support.
19:00
So you may as well just keep Tage for now.
19:02
That's what I think. Yeah, I thought that was a that
19:04
was a really good. Question.
19:05
That is a great question and hopefully we helped you out.
19:07
Did curls. Yeah, thanks for helping us out
19:10
by telling us these really cool league settings because.
19:14
Yeah alright, our next question comes from JVC 03/08 on Reddit
19:19
and he says in a bangers league. I'm currently in first and have
19:22
an opportunity to trade wool and a smaller piece for Jack Hughes.
19:26
I already have Gus and Blackwood so I don't mind trading Wall,
19:28
but New Jersey only plays two games in the finals week is 2
19:31
games of Hughes where three games of a goalie.
19:35
That's a great question. I don't see it as two games of
19:38
cues for three games of a goalie because I feel like the goalie
19:40
games you never really guaranteed this far out.
19:42
Plus, I think wall is going to lose a lot of value when stars
19:45
comes back. I I would take Jacques if you
19:48
can flip wall in a small piece for Jack Hughes.
19:50
Jack Hughes, an elite player. He had a 2 game playoff week
19:53
sucks and that's why like you know, New Jersey is known to not
19:56
have a great playoff schedule, but leading up to that he does
19:59
have a couple of four-game weeks and it's still Jack Hughes.
20:02
Like you're getting, you're getting way better production
20:04
from Jacks in two games. Other than most other players
20:06
have three games, so I I would do that.
20:08
Trade. I do this in a heartbeat.
20:10
I think it's like an amazing. Thing implicit already having
20:13
got some Blackwood is very solid goalie room, right?
20:15
I don't know, maybe waivers is dry.
20:17
There's nobody there, but you can stream a start if you need.
20:20
Yeah, mostly. You can only start 2 goalies in
20:23
the night also, and I don't think I would necessarily start
20:26
Wool over Gus and Blackwood if they're all playing at the same
20:28
time for. Instance, I mean that's a
20:29
matchup player playing whoever has a better match up at that
20:31
point. Probably, But yeah, Wall is the
20:34
tandem, the other two are bonafide starters, Your goalies
20:36
are seemingly set, and Jack Hughes is an elite, elite
20:39
talent. So also, if you want to do this
20:43
trade, then just pick up a guy who is a really good schedule in
20:45
the finals because you're gonna get a 2 for one, right?
20:47
So are you getting the one in that?
20:49
Trade Replacing those 3 goalie games in the finals is gonna be
20:51
really a lot easier than replacing what Jacques will do
20:54
for your team leading up to the finals and in the playoffs.
20:58
With you guys said this one was a really easy one for me.
21:00
I think it's a no-brainer. You definitely take cues.
21:02
And then there's also the fact that Stars is coming back.
21:05
So it's not even a two games versus 3, it's going to be a two
21:07
games versus one or two. So you're not losing any games
21:10
through this. You're getting way better
21:11
player. Seems like a no brainer. 100%.
21:14
All right, we've got Nifty Penguin 222 asked what's the
21:18
rest of season look like for the Penguins?
21:20
They. Have a pretty hash playoff
21:21
schedule. Yeah I know Wins fan.
21:26
He's a they have a pretty trash playoff schedule.
21:28
Is it worth selling players like Raquel and Russ if they might
21:31
drop off for players with better schedules?
21:33
It's a bangers league. Yes, I think that they're good
21:36
sell highs anyways because they've been such monsters with
21:39
points as of late. Well, let's take it as a part of
21:43
the question at a time. First, what do you think the
21:45
rest of season looks like for the Penguins?
21:46
I think they're gonna be solid. I think I see them as a type of
21:50
team that they're getting a lot of production, even though
21:52
they're not a good real life NHL team.
21:55
Like I think they're fantasy that will still be really good.
21:58
Like I think I'm higher on Brian Ross and Ricard Raquel rest of
22:01
the season more than both of you.
22:03
I think personally, um, I I put them in a conversation with like
22:09
a Debrincat like you know, Zuccarello natures like I think
22:14
they can be in that range. Yeah, I think I don't
22:18
necessarily disagree with that ranking.
22:20
I just I think. That they, I think even even if
22:23
the Penguins slowed down, I still think those guys are
22:25
playing with Sidney Crosby and our PP1.
22:27
Like that's a very valuable position to be for fantasy.
22:30
I would definitely trade them for somebody that has a better
22:32
playoff schedule. If you can tear up or stay
22:35
lateral, absolutely. But I wouldn't want to try to
22:39
get rid of them. You know, this was my main
22:41
thing. I think these guys are here to
22:42
stay in. Their value is going to be
22:44
consistent. Yeah, I just think it's, I mean,
22:47
consistent, yes, but I'd still think it's going to slow down
22:50
from where they're currently at. The other portion of this is
22:53
that these are the type of teams that you want to own going into
22:58
your fantasy playoffs because they're fighting for a playoff
23:00
spot in real life. The caveat is Nifty Penguin two
23:04
to two mentioned is that they don't have a good playoff
23:07
schedule. So it's kind of like you're sort
23:09
of stuck here, which kind of sucks.
23:11
So I would try to like, use the fact that they're fighting for
23:15
an IRL playoff spot as a selling point for these guys.
23:19
So where I'm at is I'm lower on them than Kevin.
23:22
I would sell that. But yeah, I mean, it's kind of
23:26
just like, good thing that they're fighting for the playoff
23:29
schedule, bad thing that they don't have or sorry for the
23:32
playoffs in real life, bad thing that they don't have a good
23:34
playoff schedule. So that's sort of where I'm at.
23:37
Yeah, I I think I'm lower on the Penguins than either of you.
23:40
Have you hate the Penguins? I don't hate them, I just don't
23:43
think they have a shot at the. Playoffs.
23:45
I mean, I don't, I don't think they're gonna be a playoff team,
23:47
but I still think for fantasy, those assets are valuable.
23:49
Yeah, yeah. But so in terms of Penguins, I
23:52
don't think they'll be a playoff team.
23:53
I think they're a tier below all those other East teams that are
23:56
kind of like all within a couple points of each other for those
23:58
wild cards. So I don't see the pain.
24:00
I see them fighting till the end, but I don't see them being
24:03
even like the first or second one out of a playoff spot.
24:05
I think they're going to be lower than that.
24:07
Then in terms of Raquel and Russ specifically, we had mentioned
24:10
it on the pod for both of them. I think both of them have been a
24:12
cell high over the past three weeks.
24:14
So regardless of what we. Think they're kind of settled
24:18
into their value though. They're both averaging between
24:20
like point 8.9 points per game, like 2.5 shots .2 parts.
24:24
I think that's a very fair valuation for.
24:26
Them when they were doing like 1.3 points, yeah, exactly.
24:29
Stuff like that. So I think I agree these guys, I
24:32
mean Raquel is more of the surprise for me.
24:34
Rust has always been hovering around like point 8.9 points.
24:37
Yeah, exactly. Not a it's not crazy to think
24:39
that he could keep this up. Raquel really came out of
24:41
nowhere. I didn't expect that.
24:42
And he's actually kind of better than Rust because he's got doing
24:45
the points while having kind of crazy back cats.
24:47
With the hit some blocks. Too.
24:49
So OK, so first low on the Penguins.
24:52
Rachel and Ross I think are both great, but I'm very happy to
24:56
sell high on them or at least trade laterally for a better
24:59
playoff schedule. I think guys have a good playoff
25:02
schedules, like if you can get like Drake Batherson for one of
25:05
these guys who's been kind of not good at all, and Ottawa has
25:08
a really good playoff schedule. I think that's a quote UN quote
25:10
like a lateral move, maybe even better.
25:12
Yeah. Like, you know, guys on dollars,
25:14
guys on Minnesota, if you can end up making trades like that.
25:18
All the Ottawa Senators right now, they're all playing
25:20
terribly lately and they have a great playoff schedule and I
25:24
expect all of them to bounce back.
25:25
And I think with guys like Raquel and Rust, you could
25:27
definitely get a Batherson you can get.
25:30
You might be able to make like a 2 for one to get Stutzel and
25:34
you're not sniffing Chuck, but you know like maybe you can if
25:37
you package it with someone else who's really good, you know,
25:39
maybe you can do that because. Again, would you trade Ricard
25:41
Raquel for Josh Norris after the injury?
25:45
As high as I am on Norris, I think that's too much.
25:48
I think you get yours plus for Raquel.
25:50
Yeah, I think you should. That I would do.
25:52
I would do Norris Plus for a call for sure.
25:56
But it's a great question. Yeah alright, next we've got
26:01
Suji on Reddit asked what's your take on Noah Cates?
26:05
He seems highly ranked for the last few weeks and my cats
26:07
league with face off wins and seems to be producing too.
26:10
So this one was from this wasn't from our mailbag one.
26:12
This was one of the streamer questions so he was asking like
26:15
specifically for next week where they have a four-game week.
26:17
But I thought this just interesting in general.
26:19
Yeah, we're going to talk about it more in the streamers
26:21
episode, but I like it. He is a well I mean if you have
26:26
face offs in your league, he's currently a left wing getting
26:29
monster face offs. His cat coverage has been great
26:31
and Tortorella offence. Anything could happen for
26:35
seemingly no reason, which sucks, but he's been really
26:39
really good so I think he's worth rostering for the time
26:42
being, especially going into Next.
26:43
Week I'm a little lower on him. I feel like this is the type of
26:45
production that you see a lot from these no case type of guys
26:48
on Philly specifically where they'll have like 2-3 weeks
26:51
stretches of having really good production and then they somehow
26:53
end up on the fourth line and it's over.
26:56
The guy that I'm really interested in on Philly is
27:00
frost. I think he has a lot more main
27:02
staying potential. But I mean, I would not hate
27:06
streaming locates, right? But I just think that, you know,
27:09
a lot of production recently has been goals because she went
27:13
through a street where he had five goals in a row.
27:15
And I I think that really influences the averages a lot.
27:18
I don't see this being something that says.
27:20
Yeah, I mean, I agree with what you guys are saying.
27:22
I think it's a great stream for the week.
27:24
But the free software? Game week.
27:26
The faceoff wins are great, and it's just at the end of the day,
27:28
it's Torrella team, right? And it kind of goes both ways
27:31
with Tortorella where the best players are gonna go through
27:35
stretches of crazy underperforming because they'll
27:37
randomly put them on line 4, but then the randomness players will
27:40
go on great stretches because he'll randomly put them on line
27:42
1. So I don't like looking at
27:44
anyone on Philly for consistency because you never know what
27:47
toward real is going to do next. But in terms of short term, I
27:50
love going for some of these these Philly guys when they have
27:52
a good. Schedule.
27:53
Yeah, Welder hotel. They're hot and have a good
27:55
schedules. That's the time to stream.
27:56
Yeah. Yeah, it's an excellent week to
27:59
pick him up if you're gonna do it, and then now is a good time.
28:02
And then our last question, we have the Maple AF6 asked, what
28:07
do you think about Freddie Anderson?
28:10
He's so cool. Jake is the Freddie Anderson
28:14
owner, so I'll let him start it off, but I have I have some
28:17
thoughts. I actually think Pewter is a
28:21
better goalie. So that's the that's the truth.
28:23
In real life, I think that he's kind of their future.
28:27
Yeah, but the Odor, but I I think he's gonna be in a tandem
28:33
with P Odor moving forward. And Caroline is a very good
28:38
team. So it's similar to he's like,
28:42
he's like a less good Logan Thompson.
28:44
I find he's gonna get you good. But I I have both of them.
28:48
So my current structure is going for percentages.
28:50
I think Freddy is very good for that.
28:51
So he's gonna get you good save percentage, good winning
28:53
percentage. Volume is not gonna be high.
28:55
His body literally can't handle it.
28:58
He's always hurt. So but he's just telling for a
29:01
long stretch. So and you know, at the time of
29:03
this recording, since he's been healthy, played one game, sat
29:06
the next one, playing the next 1.
29:08
So it's going to be 5050. And that's just where I see
29:11
things going for them. I think I think it's gonna be
29:13
the lesser goalie in a 5050. I think I'm not so sure of the
29:17
quality will stay there. I just feel like he's he's not
29:19
just not the same guy anymore. If I had to let me give you some
29:23
names and tell me where you ranked these guys, like would
29:25
you rather have answer Montano? I understand, Anderson for sure.
29:29
OK. Would you rather have Anderson
29:30
or Dustin Wolf? Anderson.
29:33
OK, Anderson or Joseph Wall. Well.
29:37
Uh, if like scholars came back tomorrow, I'd probably put them
29:41
in the same league but at. The I was gonna use, I was gonna
29:44
use that Toronto tandem as a comparison for.
29:47
Anderson, I wanted to build up to it a little bit like maybe,
29:52
maybe, maybe you, maybe you like him less than those guys that
29:54
are like below a tandem kind of guy.
29:57
I don't know, But I I see him in that range.
29:59
Like I take a lot of the the main one Egal.
30:01
He's ahead of him and like, would you rather Anderson or
30:04
Valka? Anderson.
30:06
Because it's close from you. I want like keep going because I
30:10
want to get to a point where I say the other.
30:11
Guy OK Anderson or Joey Decord. Anderson.
30:18
Wow, OK, Joshua hiring Anderson than I am because I would say
30:20
the. Cord, I understand, but that
30:22
one, that one's almost. There like Eden Hill.
30:26
Like keep going. Over.
30:30
God, yeah, I see. That's where I'm kind of just
30:34
like, I'm just going to take Aidan Hill because I think that
30:36
he's less likely to get hurt. And Vegas is a sick team, too.
30:39
It's a tandem situation. That's where it's at.
30:42
Yeah, I would not be shocked if Anderson gets one out of three
30:45
games. No, I don't think that's gonna
30:47
happen. I would not be shocked if that
30:48
happens. You would be shocked.
30:49
Yeah, I think it's pretty clear. Time.
30:51
Are you gonna be shocked if Anderson gets hurt in two weeks?
30:54
And that's not what you said. No, I know, but I'm just.
30:56
Talking, I'm talking health wise, I think it's a clear. 5050
30:59
UPL or Anderson? Anderson I'm about to get an
31:02
offer for Anderson because Kevin has been shooting on him so
31:06
much. No, I.
31:07
Mean I tried to. An offer from.
31:09
Where we're heard what? No, I do not want to.
31:14
Yeah, that's that's what you want me to think.
31:17
I see you. Starting and there's sort of
31:19
Jake Allen. Anderson OK, You just you just
31:24
don't like OK Anderson or swam and Josh.
31:26
Swam in. Swim too.
31:28
That's what I'm thinking Swimming.
31:29
I'm taking Eden Hill, I'm taking Joey the Cord, I'm taking
31:33
Bennington. That's more of like.
31:35
I'm taking wall. When you get to the Bennington
31:37
decors, that's more of a how you're building your team thing
31:39
because that's very clearly a quantity versus quality.
31:43
If you could trade Anderson right now, would you?
31:47
Yeah, for for good value. It was good value.
31:50
You just got them back Trade. I wouldn't trade him.
31:51
What can you get him? What can you get for?
31:52
Him injured. Like you wouldn't do this, but
31:57
like, I mean, of course I'd rather Kemper.
31:59
Yeah, that's not even close. I wouldn't take would not have
32:02
been closer Sorokin either. I don't know about that.
32:06
I mean, I, I know. I know that no chance I'm taking
32:09
anything close to. Yeah, I know.
32:11
But you have Sorokin if you didn't have Sorokin and based on
32:14
how much better Carolina is if. I only had one goal.
32:17
You're saying if I wanted a second one, what would I give
32:19
for Freddie Anderson? What about Stuart Skinner?
32:22
Much rather have stewards. Better by far, really.
32:25
Yeah, yeah, I see. Skinner is like a closer, like a
32:27
topic. 5 Seven goals. Like interesting is you've got
32:30
quantity starters on good teams. That's the number one tier.
32:34
Then the second tier is tandems on good teams and good starters
32:38
on bad teams, and that's where you have like to me like the
32:41
interesting conversation. And then obviously the worst
32:43
tier is tandems on bad teams. So really like that's just a
32:47
kind of how you're building your team.
32:49
If you're going for quantity or quality, you know, like you look
32:51
at a guy like Joey Decori mean he puts up solid numbers also.
32:54
But Seattle kind of sucks, you know?
32:56
Or as Caroline, obviously way better.
32:57
But Discord's gonna get 100% of the starts and Anderson's gonna
33:00
get 50% of the starts. And that's kind of just like
33:02
more of how you feel personally and how you're building your
33:05
team. Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
33:07
How about Demco? I'd rather have them go.
33:11
Josh. Yeah, I'd take Dumka because
33:13
he's the he's the clear starter, even though he's.
33:15
Been having I'm just surprised Jackie is lower on like Demco,
33:19
Skinner, Kemper, Sorokin. No, Kemper.
33:22
I said for sure I'd rather Kemper.
33:24
And yeah, I mean Demco. Demco just hasn't been so great
33:29
since playing and I just don't think the connects are that
33:31
good. The cord is the same story.
33:33
So for me, I mean, like, yeah, I mean, Aiden Hill is like the
33:38
best comparison I'd say that we have right now.
33:41
I think I'd rather have. OK, Joseph Wall after Stolarz
33:44
comes back because I think Toronto and Carolina are like
33:47
similar levels of team and they're both gonna be 50 fifties
33:50
and both are gonna put up good numbers.
33:51
So to me it's like a very similar type of goalie and they
33:54
both injury prone so. It's yeah, literally.
33:56
Kind of like identical. I just basically consider him an
34:00
OK goalie on an excellent team where I think he's gonna get
34:04
5050 split. I mean, I just.
34:07
Yeah, it's the perfect way to sum it up on.
34:09
Friday, that's sort of that's sort of it.
34:11
But I see your hesitation, Kevin.
34:12
Like he's not elite, but he's good enough that I'm like happy
34:16
to roster him. I don't think anybody's been
34:18
happy, only Freddie in fantasy for like the last 2-3 years.
34:21
Yeah, but it's the injuries. Yeah.
34:25
When he's healthy, I mean. So it is what it is.
34:28
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