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Dragnet: The Big Picture (EP4628) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: everyone at your table. All right, Well, from December seventh,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty Here is the big picture.
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  Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true, only
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  Speaker 2: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
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  Speaker 2: a detective sergeant. You're assigned a juvenile bureau. A pair
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  Speaker 2: of fake talent scouts are at work in your city.
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  Speaker 2: They're victims, young girls seeking careers in Hollywood. The criminals
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  Speaker 2: are vicious, relentless. Your job get them.
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  Speaker 3: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. Well the
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  Speaker 3: next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,
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  Speaker 3: you will travel, step by step on the side of
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  Speaker 3: the law through an actual case transcribed from official police folence,
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  Speaker 3: from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is
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  Speaker 3: the story of your police force and action.
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  Speaker 4: It was Tuesday, May seventh, was mild in Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 4: we're working the day watch out of Juvenile Bureau. My
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  Speaker 4: partner's Ben Romero, the bosses Inspector Bowling, Commander Juvenile Division.
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  Speaker 4: My name's Friday was ten thirteen am when I got
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  Speaker 4: to thirteen thirty five Georgia Street, second floor the squadron. Hi, Hi, Ben, did.
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  Speaker 5: You pick up that latest run the Stat's office made
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  Speaker 5: for No. I don't think they got it ready yet.
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  Speaker 5: I notice there in the book. It's been ready since yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: You were over there, you could have picked it up. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: what's the matter with you this morning? Don't you feel good?
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  Speaker 5: Just just stink and cool? Seam to be settling my chest? Yeah, sir,
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  Speaker 5: I help you? Yes, I'd like some information please. This
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  Speaker 5: is the two of them.
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  Speaker 3: Bureau, isn't he?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: So there, What can we do for you?
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  Speaker 8: Mind? If I sit down and climbing those stairs takes
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  Speaker 8: your breath away?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Sure, a.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: My name is Wayne Ken. Were the officers out here
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  Speaker 8: on the convention.
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  Speaker 6: My home is in Minnesota. Went out last night with
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  Speaker 6: some of the boys at the Conventional. He stopped at
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  Speaker 6: a bar down on your Alvarado Street, Alvarado, Alforado. Anyway,
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  Speaker 6: we were drinking there, and the bartender got to talking
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  Speaker 6: to us, finally offered us some pictures for sale.
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  Speaker 8: I got one. I'm right here. Let's see.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, there you are. I paid him two dollars
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  Speaker 6: for it. Just look at that, Phil. Do you have
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  Speaker 6: the address of the bar were you bought the Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 6: I have. Now, that's not the reason I'm here though,
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  Speaker 6: not a one man moral squad. I'm not the type
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  Speaker 6: makes a habit of buying. I've seen photographs of young girls.
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  Speaker 4: Either, Y answer, we understand.
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  Speaker 8: And I bought this picture from that bartender because I
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  Speaker 8: know the young girl in it.
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  Speaker 6: She's the daughter of one of my neighbors back home Minnesota,
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  Speaker 6: known her ever since she was a baby. This girl
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  Speaker 6: came out here about eight months ago to live with
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  Speaker 6: a girlfriend. She was crazy for Hollywood. Thought she might
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  Speaker 6: break into the movies or something. She stopped writing her
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  Speaker 6: folks about two months ago. Hasn't been heard from since. Well,
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  Speaker 6: it sounds like a case for a missing person's bill,
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  Speaker 6: mister Kenley. Well, the girls folks have already contacted them.
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  Speaker 6: Nothing's been turned up, nothing at all. Then last night,
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  Speaker 6: just by an accident, the bartender shows me this photograph.
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  Speaker 5: It's set girl, all right, no mistakes. Well, we'll do
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  Speaker 5: everything we can. They'll straighten it out.
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  Speaker 6: To that young girl. I know knowner since she was
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  Speaker 6: a baby, good family, good training. She never would have
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  Speaker 6: posed for photograph like this, right, She's just not the type,
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  Speaker 6: that's all.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I understand. What was this young girl's name, mister.
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  Speaker 6: Kenley, Lois Brewster. That's her real name. When she wrote
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  Speaker 6: her folks, she was using another name while she was
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  Speaker 6: out here. Thought it might help her movie chances.
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  Speaker 8: Drake. I think that's what it was, Lynda Drake.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, about five foot four, one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: fifteen pounds, dark haired, dark eyes.
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  Speaker 7: That's right.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know where she is?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, we do. We had her case called to
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  Speaker 4: our attention. Where is she sure?
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  Speaker 7: I no, sir, she's dead.
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  Speaker 4: Two days before, mister Kenworth, they walked into Juvenile Bureau.
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  Speaker 4: The body of a young girl had been washed up
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  Speaker 4: on the shore just below the beach town of Venice.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently she had taken her own wife. The girl was
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  Speaker 4: a brunette, attractive, not more than seventeen years old. There
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  Speaker 4: was no identification on the body except for a rent
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  Speaker 4: receipt found in one of the pockets of a cotton
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  Speaker 4: jacket that the girl had been wearing. The rent receipt
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  Speaker 4: was made out to Lynda Drake that was signed R. L. King,
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  Speaker 4: eight seventy six Poria Avenue. The address was checked out
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  Speaker 4: and RL King was found to be the girl's landlady.
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  Speaker 4: After identifying the body, she told investigating officers that Lois
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  Speaker 4: Brewster alias Linda Drake had lived at her rooming house
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  Speaker 4: with a girlfriend for about six months. A girlfriend's name
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  Speaker 4: was Joyce Fowler. Alnady went on to explain that the
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  Speaker 4: two girls had moved out about a week before without
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  Speaker 4: leaving a forwarding address. The Faler girl had said that
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  Speaker 4: she would call back for any mail that might be
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  Speaker 4: delivered to the Peoria Avenue address. There had been no
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  Speaker 4: other leads to the dead girl's background or identity until
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  Speaker 4: her former neighbor from Minnesota, mister Wayne Kenworthy, showed up.
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  Speaker 4: Later that day. Ben and I met with Inspector Bowling
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  Speaker 4: and briefed him.
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  Speaker 7: Here are you were out in business?
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  Speaker 4: I'll buy that.
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  Speaker 7: How far have you gotten with it?
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  Speaker 4: Checked the dead girl's clints with a missing person's building.
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  Speaker 4: Miss Lewis Brusley. We notified the girl's parents in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: They're coming out to claim the Bonnie. It's pretty tragic.
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  Speaker 4: She's an only daughter, seventeen years old.
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  Speaker 5: Same old story. We figure escaper, some plenty talent. Scott
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  Speaker 5: Grabran showed her their bride lages. Gotted a post for
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  Speaker 5: those pictures. One way or another, they can make a
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  Speaker 5: teenage girl go one of a hundred directions.
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  Speaker 7: After that, this one ended up on a beach. That's
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  Speaker 7: all I care about now.
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  Speaker 6: How about the girlfriend Lois Brewster was living with, Joyce Fellers.
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  Speaker 4: No words so far or what about any ideas well?
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  Speaker 4: It pretty much depends on finding this Joyce foul. There's
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  Speaker 4: no background on her. We got out on all points.
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  Speaker 6: How about phony talent scouts, cheap modeling schools, photographers.
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  Speaker 7: Check out that angle.
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  Speaker 4: We put four of them away in the past six months.
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  Speaker 4: Another half dozen of being watched so we can start
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  Speaker 4: double checking him tomorrow.
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  Speaker 8: How about that picture that old fellow ken Worth they
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  Speaker 8: brought in ened E there, we.
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  Speaker 4: Gathered a dozen samples just like it. Ones as bad
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  Speaker 4: as the other. They're all printed on the same quality
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  Speaker 4: photographic paper. There's no markings of any kind on them.
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  Speaker 4: There's a common type of paper, all.
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  Speaker 6: Right, then get on the distribution angle to stay on
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  Speaker 6: at every rotten bum the pedals, this tragic get them.
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  Speaker 7: I want to write up the.
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  Speaker 6: Line distributors, wholesalers guy, the prints, the pictures guy.
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  Speaker 7: That takes them every lousy want of them.
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  Speaker 4: I still can't figure what's that other Brewster goes a
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  Speaker 4: good home, there, good training, she knew right from wrong.
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  Speaker 8: Kids.
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  Speaker 4: Don't forget that in a hurry.
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  Speaker 7: Might have been our trouble. How do you mean she
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  Speaker 7: remembered it?
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  Speaker 4: Wednesday May eight, six teams of men from Juvenile Division,
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  Speaker 4: working in conjunction with the Detective Bureau, started to drive
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  Speaker 4: against the obscene literature and photography traffic. Within two weeks,
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  Speaker 4: more than a dozen wholesalers, distributors, and small time peddlers
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  Speaker 4: had been apprehended and were awaiting prosecution. For we still
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  Speaker 4: had failed to uncover any new leads in the lowest
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  Speaker 4: Brewster case. The room mate, Joyce Foller, the all important
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  Speaker 4: witness in the case, was still missing no trace of her.
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  Speaker 4: The dead girl's parents arrived in the city, claimed the body,
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  Speaker 4: and took it back to Minnesota for burial. The drive
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  Speaker 4: continued another week passed. On May twenty ninth, on a
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  Speaker 4: tip from a usually reliable informant, Ben and I checked
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  Speaker 4: out a small photographic studio on Sunset Boulevard operated by
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  Speaker 4: an amo Joseph Martin, who was sullen and uncooperative. We
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  Speaker 4: checked through his files.
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  Speaker 6: Just what I told you, A few special shots I
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  Speaker 6: cape filed away just for last. Okay, once in a while,
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  Speaker 6: friend drops in and I print one of them up
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  Speaker 6: for him. Yeah, hold that one up to the light.
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  Speaker 6: Some of them are nice looking dolls.
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 8: I'd print one up for my friends once in a while.
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  Speaker 8: What kind of friends do you have?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 4: How about this negative here, Martin? Do you mind printing
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  Speaker 4: this one up for us?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 7: Sure?
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  Speaker 8: Officer, my compliments. How many copies you want?
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  Speaker 4: One's enough?
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  Speaker 6: If you say so, I'd see, ah, one of the best.
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  Speaker 6: I'll print it up right now this way. This one's
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  Speaker 6: a real collector's eye of me, you know, right. A
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  Speaker 6: friend of mine got me the negative a hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 6: It cost me worth it though, I'll make up a
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  Speaker 6: couple of pence.
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  Speaker 8: Fully.
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  Speaker 4: One's good.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, anything you're saying you when I get that light
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  Speaker 8: switch for uh? Yeah, you're the phone, nigger.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you picked a good one, alright, Yeah, hit the
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  Speaker 6: paper in there. Yeah, and okay, one print, that's all
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  Speaker 6: you want, that's all. Okay, let's put it in the soup.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. I bet you get a kick out of this one,
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  Speaker 8: real beautiful girl.
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  Speaker 4: How'd you happen to get ahold of this negative?
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  Speaker 8: You take the picture? No, friend of mine got it
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  Speaker 8: for me. He cost me a scene of Here we go.
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  Speaker 8: Put it in the stubber, here we go. Huh uh?
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  Speaker 4: How about the guy you got this negative from?
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  Speaker 7: Did he take the picture?
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  Speaker 6: No, he bought it from somebody else. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: who cost him three hundred and fifty. Where's the doub huh?
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  Speaker 6: I and I you know we've seen him before. Well
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  Speaker 6: i'd sell you know.
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  Speaker 4: I brought me from her pictures.
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  Speaker 6: No, cause you understand I didn't take the picture. I
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  Speaker 6: just bought a negative, that's all. You couldn't tag me.
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  Speaker 8: For that, could you.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna try, mister, get your coat.
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  Speaker 6: Oh no, wait a minute, how is I'm small fry
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  Speaker 6: in this operation? You'll know that you want the big fish, right.
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  Speaker 4: We want all of you. You know who they are?
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  Speaker 8: Some maybe must be worth something to you.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know better than Ned Martin. If you cooperate,
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  Speaker 4: we'll mention it in our report. That's all we can do.
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  Speaker 8: No promises, not a very good offer.
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  Speaker 4: You're not in a very good position.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 4: Am Old J. Martin was booked at City Jail for
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  Speaker 4: violation of three eleven PC. His file of lued photographs
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  Speaker 4: and negatives were impounded and booked his evidence. With a
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  Speaker 4: help of information which the suspect had given us, we
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  Speaker 4: were able to round up three wholesalers and another distributor
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  Speaker 4: of obscene books and photographs. Each one of them was
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  Speaker 4: questioned thoroughly. They ran into the same old routine. They
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  Speaker 4: denied knowing anything about the man who was masterminding a
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  Speaker 4: racket or where he was operating. From a lowess Brewster
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  Speaker 4: case dragged on no progress. In virtually every case of
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  Speaker 4: tracing the lube pictures to the point of production, the
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  Speaker 4: investigating officers were able to link the small time peddlers
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  Speaker 4: to their distributor, and the distributor to the wholesaler. That's
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  Speaker 4: where it stopped a dead end. Beyond that, nobody knew
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  Speaker 4: anything about the operation of the racket. Steakhouts were set
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  Speaker 4: up at locations where sales and deliveries of obscene material
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  Speaker 4: were known to have been made. Nothing happened. The drive
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  Speaker 4: stalled Thursday, June eleventh, and now Joe Yes Gabor the first.
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  Speaker 6: Piece of news nob On the policewoman just call it in.
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  Speaker 6: You know Lois Bluster's girlfriend, Joyce Feller, Yeah, she's been found.
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  Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet called a solution to an
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  Speaker 3: actual case from official police files.
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  Speaker 4: Like most organized crime, the traffic and obscene literature and
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  Speaker 4: photographs is a racket jealously guarded because of its heavy profit.
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  Speaker 4: It's nationwide and every year its millions of dollars for
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  Speaker 4: underworld promoters and their employees. As an organized business, it's
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  Speaker 4: one of the most vicious and insidious rackets that exist today,
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  Speaker 4: despite the fact that many citizens regarded lightly. Thursday June eleventh,
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  Speaker 4: ten Am Ben and I met with Policewoman Paula Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: She told us at the previous evening, Joyce Fowler, the
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  Speaker 4: girl Lois Brewster had been living with, had gotten into
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  Speaker 4: a brawl with an unidentified man at a bar on
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  Speaker 4: Sunset Boulevard. Police officers arriving at the scene identified her
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  Speaker 4: as the missing girl and handed her over to juvenile authorities.
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  Speaker 4: At ten thirty am, Joyce Fowler was brought to the
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  Speaker 4: interrogation room. She was a tall brunette, fairly attractive. She
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  Speaker 4: looked older than her age. Together with policewoman Paula Johnson,
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  Speaker 4: Ben and I questioned her.
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  Speaker 9: I was out on a day with this man. We
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  Speaker 9: were sitting at the bar and he started saying things
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  Speaker 9: I didn't like what a row did. So man seemed
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  Speaker 9: cry a bit older than your Joyce. Was he a
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  Speaker 9: good friend of yours? Friend who's about fifty? I guess
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  Speaker 9: I thought he was all right? He wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: How old are you, Joyce?
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  Speaker 9: Twenty one? We've checked your background, Joyce, she might as
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  Speaker 9: well tell the truth, all right, I'm seventeen. I'll be
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  Speaker 9: eighteen next week. Look, can't I go get a nasprin.
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  Speaker 9: I've got a terrible hiddie.
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  Speaker 4: I got something my locker, be right back. Okay.
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  Speaker 9: I still don't know why I'm here. What do you
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  Speaker 9: want to know?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're a good friend of Lois Brewster's. You lived
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  Speaker 4: with her? Is that right?
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  Speaker 9: Is that why I'm here? It's one of the reasons
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  Speaker 9: Lowis spent eight months out here. Before death. As far
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  Speaker 9: as these officers know, you lived with her during those
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  Speaker 9: eight months. We want to find out what happened to her.
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  Speaker 9: We want to find out what's happening to you. Nothing's
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  Speaker 9: happening to me. I can't take care of myself. That's
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  Speaker 9: what Lowis Brewster thought. George, how about her? You tell
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  Speaker 9: us she didn't know what she was doing. I don't
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  Speaker 9: know what happened to her. I'm to plan for bringing
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  Speaker 9: her out here. But it's not my fault what happened
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  Speaker 9: to her. It's not my fault.
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  Speaker 4: Whose fault is it?
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  Speaker 9: All of a whole rotten, dirty punch of her?
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  Speaker 4: Here's your aspirin.
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  Speaker 9: Tomb.
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  Speaker 4: No thanks, I get some more.
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  Speaker 9: M that's something wrong with us. Didn't you feel well?
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  Speaker 8: I'll be all right right here you are? Thanks.
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  Speaker 9: I don't remember too well. It started. Lois came out
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  Speaker 9: to Hollywood to live with me for six months now.
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  Speaker 9: We tried to get modeling jobs, big parts in the movies.
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  Speaker 9: We didn't have much luck. We had to eat pay
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  Speaker 9: the rent, so we took jobs his waitresses at a
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  Speaker 9: drive in place out on Santa Monica Boulevard.
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  Speaker 4: Are you still working there? No?
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  Speaker 9: We were only there two weeks and we got this
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  Speaker 9: other job. That's when it started. What was that one
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  Speaker 9: day these two men drove in with a brand new Cadillac,
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  Speaker 9: ordered a couple of cokes. I could tell they were
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  Speaker 9: watching as slow as than me. When they were leaving,
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  Speaker 9: they gave me a card. They said they were talent scouts.
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  Speaker 9: They asked us to come to their offices for interviews.
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  Speaker 9: You still have the card they gave you? No, I
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  Speaker 9: looked for it once. I guess I lost it.
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  Speaker 4: Would you go on please?
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  Speaker 9: The older fellow's name was Fred Ramis. The other one
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  Speaker 9: was mister Gilbert. They were both very nice. We didn't
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  Speaker 9: think anything was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't you go for the interview?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, Lois and I both went. They talked to us
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  Speaker 9: a lot, had us read out of his script, walk
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  Speaker 9: up and down. He said both of us showed a
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  Speaker 9: lot of promise. He said they wanted to be our agent,
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: so we signed a paper. Fred Ramis told us he'd
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: see we got a break.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Did either of them ever arrange any legitimate interviews for you?
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I mean with the movie studios, radio, television, aming like that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: No. They took us out quite a bit. Restaurants, nightclubs.
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: Told us we had to be seen around town. First,
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: had to show us off to the producers, all important
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: movie people. Both of them were very nice and did
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: you keep on working at the Dagon?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: No?
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: They had me and Lois quit the job, said it
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: wouldn't look right. We still had deep We still had
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: to pay our rent. That's when they brought up the
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: idea of the pictures.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: What pictures do you mean, Joyce?
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry? Could I have some more water please?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Fred Ramis and mister Gilbert took us out to
• 19:24
  Speaker 9: a big night club one night. Fred told us that
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: if Lois and I had some good pictures taken of ourselves,
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: he could show them around and get us jobs as models.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: That is still we got a break in the movies. Thanks.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: After that time, how long did you norm these two men?
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: About about a month and a half. I didn't see
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: anything wrong in it. So Lois and I went to
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: this photographer's studio with mister Ramis and we had our portraits,
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: taking regular pictures. Excuse me, Joyce, did both of these
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: men know how old your girls were? We told him
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: the truth, we were both seventeen.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: What happened after that?
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: Mister Ramis came back and said he found ot an
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: advertising agency. They wanted to buy pictures of Lois and
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: me and said, we get twenty dollars a piece every.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Time we post for her portraits.
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: No for posing and bathing suits, pajamas, things like that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: They was supposed to be for magazine ads. And about
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: a week he brought us to his office and said
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: the agency wanted us to pose without clothes, without anything.
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: He said he'd pay us forty dollars for that. We'll
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: go on, Jarl.
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: They showed us.
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: Lots of pictures of models like that. They talked about
• 20:26
  Speaker 9: it all the time. They kept saying, no, both of us,
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: Lois and I, did you ever agree a post for
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: the kind of pictures they wanted. A cat agreed to
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: something you don't know about. I don't know how it happened,
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: but it did. Mister Gilbert and Fred Remis, they kept
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: hanging us out. We used to drink quite a bit
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: with him. Went on for weeks. I guess one night
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: there was a big party.
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: We drank.
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: Lowis and I got separated. I still don't know what happened.
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: Let's see.
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: Next morning we both woke up with headaches. Fred Ramos
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: came and showed us the pictures. I felt dirty, Oliver,
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: I don't know what happened. I swear Blis began to cry.
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: I hit mister Ramos. I slapped him. Ms, mister Ramis,
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: tell you. He pretended to be very nice about it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: Said he'd pay us well if we go on posing
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: for pictures the kind he wanted. If we didn't, he
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: said he'd wreck any chance we might have in Hollywood.
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: Said he'd see that the pictures got out, threatened to
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: send copies to our families, our friends back home.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Didn't you think of going to the police.
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: We talked about it. We were afraid of the publicity,
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: the newspapers. We just kept going on doing what he said.
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: It's like a nightmare, kept getting worse, We kept getting
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: in deeper. Sorry, did she have that in book?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he recognize these pictures, Charles, Yes, mister Ramis, mister Jobrick,
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: have you posed for these?
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: Yes, that's some of them. Well, it's drag a lot,
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: so we wouldn't remember. That's that's not why Lois is dead, though,
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: those pictures aren't the reason.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Well, how do you mean?
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: Joyce, Raymus and Gilbert. They'd fix up dates for us,
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: they said, the men with their friends. Three or four
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: times a week they called. We had to go out
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: with them. We had to do what they said. One
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: morning we got home about five point thirty in the morning,
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: Lois changed said she was going for a walk. I
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: went to bed. She left her note. I never saw
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: her again. I see madam. Oh yeah, just man, it's
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: at long distance. Call we placed your home, joys ran.
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: Thanks, hello, Yeah, it's me Joyce. Yeah, it's just a mistake. Yeah.
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: How's uncle Henry. It's well, no, no, it's all right.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: Don't you worry. Yeah, all right, I'll write you tomorrow. Yeah. Bye,
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: Thanks for pleasing the call. Surgeons.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'll come Bland to do it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: Anything else you want to know?
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just one more thing. Do you still have
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: that note that Lois Brewster wrote before she died?
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: No, I lost it. I remember what it said to him, said,
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry. It was signed Lewis. That's all.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Joyce Fowler supplied us with the addresses of Fred Ramis
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: and his partner Gilbert. She gave us all the names
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: and addresses of all their friends and employees that she
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: knew of. She also pointed out their offices and base
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: of Operations Inspector Bowling ordered an immediate investigation into the
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: background and business activities of both men. Previously convicted wholesalers
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: and distributors of obscene photographs were called back in and requestioned.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: We finally completed the missing link in the supply line
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: from the peddler to the producer. Five former workers for
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Ramos and Gilbert fingered them as headman controlling the rackets.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Their offices and studio were rated and their files seized
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: as evidence. On June eighteenth, Fred Ramis and his partner
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Harold Gilbert were placed under arrest.
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: What's the pitch surgeon? What's this all about? I think
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: you know, mister Ramis, you can't take me on those pictures.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: You want to get your hat.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: It's artwork, legitimate artwork. My lawyer can prove that he'd
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: better be good. He bet he is.
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: You know, I'm kind of surprised that you cops saying
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: a word to somebody like that Fowler girl. She doesn't
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: know what she's talking about. She's a psycho. We sure
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: I tried to do something with her than that girlfriend
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: who I signed up as our agent.
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: They were hopeless.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: You've got quite a stack of negatives. Here pictures of
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: both of them, seventeen year old and just candid.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: Shots, you know, spicy for my private collection. There's nothing
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: wrong in that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: I figured i'd give the girlth a break, let him
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: earn a few bucks. Look, I couldn't have treated those
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: girls better. I took them around, showed them the town.
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: Both psychos. I never did trust them.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Well that's the big difference, Ramis.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: Huh, they trusted you.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Fred Ramis and Harold Gilbert were brought downtown to inspect
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: her Bowling's office. Joyce Fowler was seated next to the desk.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Gilbert was brought him. She identified him, He was taken
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: out and held for booking.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: All right, bring in the next one, all right?
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: Come on, yeah, can you identify this man, miss Voller?
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: Yes, he's spread Rams.
• 25:22
  Speaker 11: It's a trouble, Joyce. When you're satisfied with when I
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: was paying you settle this between ourselves. If you had
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: any beech, she could.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Have come to me.
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: You're lucky. Fred.
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: I'd kill you now if I could.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: All right, so take him be back in a mat jab.
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry. Doesn't do any good. Are there anymore?
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: That's about Uh?
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: You've helped quite a lot.
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm glad I could do it. Is that all, Sergeant?
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Well for now, Yeah, you'll have to testify at the
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: trial after that. Juvenile Court's going to keep him pretty
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: close touch with you.
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: I see.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Aren't you going back home, Joyce?
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: To Minnesota.
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: No, it'd be the same old thing. My aunt be
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: glad to see me for the first week, and she'd
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: start all over again, hollering at me. Picking wouldn't be
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: any use.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: What are you going to do out here?
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: Joy You know, I know a nice fell in Santa Monica.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: He's going to get me a job at a brand
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: new drive in cute uniforms.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: But I don't think juvenile Court's going to let you
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: take a job like that, Joyce.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: I hope so a lot of talent scouts go their
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: radio movie producers. Did I notice me?
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: I can tell might lead to something.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: The story you have just heard was true, only the
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: names were changed to protect the innocent.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: On October fourth, trial was held in Superior Court Department
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: ninety one, city in County of Los Angeles, State of California.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: In a moment the results of that trial, Fred Ramis
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: and Harold Gilbert were tried and convicted on several counts
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: of rape and loot conduct. They receive sentences as prescribed
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: by law and are now serving their terms in the
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: state penitentiary. You have just heard Dragnet, a series of
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: authentic cases from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles Police Department.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Coming up, we the people with Stories of Today on MBC.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Welcome Back. There are some episodes of old time radio
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that allow you to escape to a simpler time. Not
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: so much with this one, as it deals with a
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: recurring problem. In fact, a very similar story would be
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: aired more than seventeen years later on Dragnet in nineteen
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: sixty eight, and the same sword of thing happens today,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: but a lot of different methods are used, and it
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to happen in Hollywood. As best I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: can remember, there are three episodes dealing with obscene literature
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: or pictures in the nineteen fifties Dragnet radio series. The
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: others are The Big Book and then later The Big Producer.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: This is easily the most dramatically effective of the three.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: The opening scene is very powerful. The idea of this
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: out of town Guy's shock and heartbreak. That's the tone
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: for this episode from the beginning. It brings us into
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the tragedy of what happened to this young woman and
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: what it took to make this picture that was just
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: for laughs. The core idea of this episode is that
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: there's a story behind the picture. With the big book
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and the big producer, you're dealing more with views of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: public morase and also the technical aspects of the investigation,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: which can still be entertaining as they kind of peel
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: back that onion to get to the source, but don't
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: really form that emotional connection. And the series is talking
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: about what was a very serious issue, and I think
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it was an emerging issue at the time because the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: rise of mass media had led to the birth of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: legitimate industries like film, television, and fashion, with big contracts
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and glamour serving as a draw for many young people
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: or more than could actually find type of work they
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: wanted in those industries, and there were rackets ready to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: take advantage of this situation. And as was often the case,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Dragnet was talking about issues that other programs hadn't or
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: wouldn't touch on for many years, which could be true
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: of so many issues like child abuse. This series never
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: chose to be exploitive or overly graphic in the way
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it dealt with these issues. There was a certain, I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: think sensitivity, which is why they could tell these stories
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: even in times when they were more cautious about what
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: could be discussed on radio or what could be shown
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: on television. Listener comments and feedback. Now, and we have
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a couple of comments from YouTube regarding the Big Parrot.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Betsy says, good one and Kurt says, my father and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I loved watching Dragnet.
• 30:54
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• 30:56
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• 31:01
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• 31:41
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• 31:45
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• 31:49
  Speaker 12: How long has it been going on?
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: How long has what been going on?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: What was bothering you?
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: Well?
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: What makes you think anything's bothering me?
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: Would you be here if they weren't?
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: Well, I'm being followed to Wary by whom it's just
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: the trouble I don't know?
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: And what does he look like?
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: He's kind of stucky and he's got red hair?
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: Does he have a Southern accent? How did you know
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: he's a large brother of mine? What he's a private
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: detective named Dixie Hamilton?
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: Oh, I see?
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: Have you any idea who hired him?
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: No?
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: You marry him?
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: Why?
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: I would open up with other possibilities. What about your husband?
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: What about him? Do you think he's behind it? That's
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: what I want you to find out.
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: If Jack is responsible for this, I will leave him
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: so fast it he'll make his head swim.
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: Is he the jealous time?
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: Unfortunately?
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: Does he have reason? How dare you look? Dozie?
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: It is missus?
• 32:47
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• 32:50
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• 32:55
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• 32:58
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• 33:03
  Speaker 1: from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham, signing off.