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'Lonely men are not our problem' RE: Hannah Cox | Maintaining Frame 122 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here with Alison and this is maintaining frame number
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  Speaker 1: one twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: Lonely men are not our problem.
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  Speaker 1: Responding to Hannah Cox, who is going to opine on
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  Speaker 1: the lonely men epidemic that people are discussing online and
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  Speaker 1: why this is just distracting from really important things that
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  Speaker 1: women have to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: So why are we doing this?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Why?
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, I just before, like I decided on this title,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm wondering is it accurate? Like I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what her thesis is. I know you did the work
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  Speaker 3: of going through the time codes, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually having Canadian Thanksgiving today, so I was
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  Speaker 3: off with the in laws having some.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving whatever.
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  Speaker 1: That that's worse to the Canadians considering it seems like
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  Speaker 1: you guys lost but.
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  Speaker 3: With loy Wait wait wait wait wait wait clarify what
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  Speaker 3: did we lose?
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  Speaker 1: Lost? Well, I mean lost as in, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: when people think of Thanksgiving, they think of the American things.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say the collision of two cultures, right American Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: is we sat down with the Indians and we all
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  Speaker 1: shared a meal together, right, and yeah, but but Americans
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  Speaker 1: don't have to well whatever, indigenous peoples, but but Americans
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  Speaker 1: don't have to make you know, land acknowledgments. So it
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  Speaker 1: seems like you guys lost. I'm joking.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, well, I mean ours is more of a
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  Speaker 3: celebration of getting everything off before the winter crushes. This
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  Speaker 3: all crushes us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's also the case for us, but
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  Speaker 1: that's just not the framing. The framing is we ate together,
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  Speaker 1: and then the western colonists killed all the natives with
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  Speaker 1: their blankets because they understood germ theory in the sixteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it was a lot more complicated
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  Speaker 3: than that, Like a lot of things in history.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to believe that, but no, you don't
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  Speaker 1: need to believe it.
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  Speaker 3: It's true. I know this is probably not a newsflash
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  Speaker 3: for you, Brian, but people are people.
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  Speaker 2: Where let me reframe that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'd like to believe that normal people
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  Speaker 1: would accept that it's probably more complex than that, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think our public education system is going to
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  Speaker 1: do that for people.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that honest. But anyway, we digress.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we digress. Yeah, what I meant to say is
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  Speaker 3: that I don't know if this title is accurate, because
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what our thesis is and whether or
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  Speaker 3: not we should pay attention to the lowliness epidemic among men.
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  Speaker 1: I think you guessed pretty right, because once you understand
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  Speaker 1: the way that feminism works, it's really they become really
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  Speaker 1: easy to predict everything.
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  Speaker 3: Everything makes women a victim, and in every way, men
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  Speaker 3: are the aggressor.
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  Speaker 2: When men suffer, it's their fault.
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  Speaker 3: Which is interesting because if you think about it, it
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  Speaker 3: basically means that the only actions in the world are
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  Speaker 3: men's actions. That's it. Congratulations, Yes, you're the only people
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  Speaker 3: that really exist in feminine not.
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  Speaker 2: Just men's actions, but men's inaction is.
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  Speaker 3: Also Men are the demiurs But the demiurge is also evil.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmmm. Yes, all right, for God and
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  Speaker 1: Satan wrapped up in one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So do the things.
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  Speaker 1: We just yeah, where do we carve into this delectable bird? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so first's going to she's gonna present us the topic
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  Speaker 1: listen for the straw men. That's all I can say.
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  Speaker 1: That's basically the whole video. Listen to all the ways
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  Speaker 1: is she literally misrepresents or just straight up lies about
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  Speaker 1: what men are going to and also listen for some
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  Speaker 1: of the names that she drops when making her case.
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  Speaker 1: And then the icing on this shit Oreo cookie is
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  Speaker 1: the end where she brings out a man because you know,
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  Speaker 1: the women like Hannah Cox believe that men will only
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  Speaker 1: listen to other men when they're getting advice, even if
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  Speaker 1: those other men are just as condescending and just as like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, infantilizing as the women are. So yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is like this hurt myself. I'm drinking because of this
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  Speaker 1: fucking video, and I try not to because I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to harm my liver anymore than it already has been.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, so let us get into this. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: turn on the macros here, not this one, this one
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  Speaker 1: all right, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna start with the intro.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, guys, I'm Henna Cocks with Bass Politics, and you're
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  Speaker 4: watching my show History Onics for every week we talk
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  Speaker 4: about women's issues from a centrist point of view. The
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  Speaker 4: mail loneliness epidemic has gotten a considerable mount coverage over
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  Speaker 4: the past couple of years, but the question still remains,
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  Speaker 4: what are we supposed to do about it? And who
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  Speaker 4: specifically is supposed to take action here.
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  Speaker 1: So right off the bat, I just want to say,
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't say libertarian point of view, she says centrist.
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  Speaker 1: So somewhat more honest than her original claim to be
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  Speaker 1: a libertarian feminist, but still dishonest because she is still
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  Speaker 1: a feminist.
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  Speaker 2: In like every way.
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  Speaker 1: It's not. She's not like a different brand completely, not
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  Speaker 1: like she is the wolf in sheep's clothing knocking out
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  Speaker 1: the door at the at the mess caucus, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of you guys, let me in, But anyway, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, feminist is not centrism because feminism there is an
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  Speaker 3: ideology with its own framework. And incidentally, when you look
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: at the academic end of feminism, the framework is that
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  Speaker 3: men use domestic violence and sexual assault and domestic murder
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  Speaker 3: to uphold the patriarchy. Like that is core feminist analysis
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  Speaker 3: on the issues of domestic violence and sexual assault, but
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  Speaker 3: also on the issue of how our society functions. They
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  Speaker 3: essentially say that domestic violence and sexual assault to patriarchy
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  Speaker 3: is as money is to capitalism, right, That's what they
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  Speaker 3: are asserting, that it is an essential component of maintaining
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  Speaker 3: the status quo. That is not a centrist position to
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  Speaker 3: regard half the human race as using criminal violence against
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  Speaker 3: the other half is an extremist position. It is a
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  Speaker 3: conspiratorial position. It is a position that is actually completely
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  Speaker 3: at this at this point in time, has never been
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  Speaker 3: proven right, so that that feminism exists on an extreme
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  Speaker 3: an all of it is exists on a radical.
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  Speaker 1: Just just accept it. When she says centrist, well, she
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't mean moderate. She means like, it's like another
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  Speaker 1: way of saying, it's just the most obvious common sense position,
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  Speaker 1: so that it's like a it's just good guys, it's
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  Speaker 1: all the good things. I'm a feminist because the good things.
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  Speaker 1: That's what she's saying when she says that.
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  Speaker 3: Anti semitism but instead of you know, Jews are responsible
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  Speaker 3: for everything, do not cut that out of context to
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  Speaker 3: talking about the anti Semitic conspiracy, but the moderate position
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  Speaker 3: that instead of exterminating them, we're gonna demand reparations from them.
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  Speaker 3: But we still believe this conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But somehow, and this is the this is the big thing.
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  Speaker 3: Somehow men use violence and criminal behavior to keep women
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  Speaker 3: in line, and yet women are going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to appeal to them for reparations. So it's it's funny
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  Speaker 3: because the radfem position that there is no there is
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  Speaker 3: no there's no truce, there's no appealing somehow, Well, the
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  Speaker 3: RATFM position is that there is no truth, there's only
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  Speaker 3: there's only femtopia, the femtopia separatist or getting rid of
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  Speaker 3: most of men. But when you ask them, well, how's
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  Speaker 3: that going to come up as sion as men give
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  Speaker 3: us are fem separast utopia, I'm like, you're still appealing
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  Speaker 3: to the very people you say are your dread enemies.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, was that part of uh, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: art of war. The way you win a war is
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  Speaker 3: to act or demand that your enemy lose, because it's equivalent.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But this whole thing, this whole framework is extremism. So
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  Speaker 3: what centrism, Well, considering men's point of view at all,
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  Speaker 3: I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listening to what they have to say before you
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  Speaker 1: shoot them down, anyway, is that decides he does? Or
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  Speaker 1: you misrepresent what they're saying while claiming to listen, and
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  Speaker 1: then you shoot them down and then you blame them,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what this is going to be. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: let's face more of her of her opening statement here
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  Speaker 1: for many women.
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  Speaker 4: There is an underlying accusation in these headlines that women
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  Speaker 4: have caused a problem and therefore need to help solve it.
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  Speaker 4: But it responds a growing number of women are pushing back,
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  Speaker 4: claiming that men have brought the situation on themselves, and
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  Speaker 4: if they're such great, big, strong leaders, then well shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: they be able to solve this epidemic on their own?
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  Speaker 3: They are like, look at how she's using this identity
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  Speaker 3: to manipulate men against recognizing a vulnerability, even a vulnerability
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  Speaker 3: to women, Like, I don't know why women have such
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  Speaker 3: a problem with this. Women are to blame. Just take it,
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  Speaker 3: just accept it, just marinate it, just stay a moment.
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  Speaker 3: Women are to blame, she even says.
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  Speaker 1: She even points out that at least there's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of truth there that she like either like did
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  Speaker 1: not catch because it didn't fit her, because she's setting
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  Speaker 1: the frame up right, She's framing this before she goes in.
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  Speaker 1: And so she says, there are parts of like the
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  Speaker 1: Internet that are claiming that women are, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: in part to blame and should help to fix the problem.
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  Speaker 1: So this isn't even a complete scapegoating of women. Even then,
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  Speaker 1: there are guys saying, you know, we need women to
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  Speaker 1: help with this. They're saying we need women to help,
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  Speaker 1: which means that men want to be like involved in
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  Speaker 1: the solution. But she is saying, no, that sounds like
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  Speaker 1: you're blaming women and that you're demanding that we all
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  Speaker 1: do something while you sit back and do nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, no, but bear me out, bear me out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, women.
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  Speaker 3: Are one hundred percent to blame. Just just hold that thought.
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  Speaker 3: Their actions have caused this situation. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: go into whether or not this is accurate. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 3: let's just stay in the moment of just saying that
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  Speaker 3: women are one hundred percent to blame. Their actions have
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  Speaker 3: caused the situation. Their actions have caused the situation. They're
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent to blame. Okay, Has anyone died, Has
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  Speaker 3: anybody listening had their eyes melt? Has their mother spontaneously
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  Speaker 3: dropped dead and rolled into her grave? No, nothing is
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  Speaker 3: going to happen if we blame women, right, except that
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  Speaker 3: maybe we'll get a solution.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's it is something we need to get
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  Speaker 3: over as a species, as a culture, whatever, we need
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  Speaker 3: to be able to blame women full stop. We already
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  Speaker 3: do it over and over and over and over again
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  Speaker 3: for women, for men. Now we need to just accept
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  Speaker 3: that and I need to see more women just say hmm,
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe women are to blame. This is what
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  Speaker 3: we need to see. We need to see more women
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  Speaker 3: except that they may have responsibility as a result of
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  Speaker 3: their actions and say, hmm, maybe I am to blame
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  Speaker 3: and not die from it. Like I'm not dead, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not freaking melting. I can do it. Why can't you? Like,
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  Speaker 3: why is this terrifying for me? It's I late it is.
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  Speaker 3: It is relieving because the alternative is that my actions
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  Speaker 3: don't matter. And the only real people in the world,
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  Speaker 3: the only people with free will are men. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: maybe men are saying, hey, could you help me with this?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they aren't infinitely strong, infinitely capable of leadership, Pana Cox.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that a great thing to know that you have
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  Speaker 3: something that you need to do as a woman, to
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  Speaker 3: take responsibility for, as a woman, to step up to
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  Speaker 3: the plate as a woman, the your actions matter, that
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  Speaker 3: they have an impact, Like why do women want to
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  Speaker 3: stay in this lukewarm, amniotic fluid of no accountability? Don't
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  Speaker 3: you realize that you don't develop. Okay, I'm done, all right,
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  Speaker 3: playing some.
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  Speaker 5: More reachieved equality between the sexes and the west.
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  Speaker 4: Women were often forced to marry to have access to
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  Speaker 4: basic resources. That means that many men who were undeserving
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  Speaker 4: of wives or children got them anyways due to the
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  Speaker 4: desperate choices women were forced to make. And it's also
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  Speaker 4: true that in previous generations, as women work to redefine
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  Speaker 4: their roles in a post A quality world, many initially
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  Speaker 4: attempted to shoulder a career as well as the traditional
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  Speaker 4: roles their mothers held before them, which included not only
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  Speaker 4: the majority of the housework and child wearing, but also
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  Speaker 4: the social planning for their husbands.
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  Speaker 5: As I've discussed in previous episodes, this.
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  Speaker 4: Did not go well for those women, and they taught
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  Speaker 4: their daughters to not put themselves in these kinds of positions.
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  Speaker 4: Women have listened, they got degrees, they sought out successful careers,
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  Speaker 4: and many have worked to build fulfilling lives with or
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  Speaker 4: without a mail partner. Those that are in heterosexual relationships
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  Speaker 4: are usually working full time these days, and they're just
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  Speaker 4: no longer interested in being their partner's made or mother
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  Speaker 4: or such.
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  Speaker 3: I just tuned out there forbid. Is she's saying that
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  Speaker 3: our grandmothers told us to go work and not have
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  Speaker 3: a husband.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Also, she's saying that women are now earning their own
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  Speaker 1: money so they don't need men anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why women are
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  Speaker 1: earning their own money. I think it's because our money
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  Speaker 1: isn't worth shit, and we both have to work now
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  Speaker 1: to make ends meet because of what the state has
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  Speaker 1: done to our economy. That's what it is. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean women entering the workforce and the the you know,
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  Speaker 1: lowering the average wages to a degree, on top of
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we are, you know, becoming a more
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  Speaker 1: or we have become a much more materialistic culture that
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  Speaker 1: spends a lot of money on shit we don't need
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  Speaker 1: pre trash. And women are the chief they're the chief
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  Speaker 1: leaders in consumption, especially useless consumption. But I mean, Henne
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  Speaker 1: Cox would never acknowledge that because well, she's like literally
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  Speaker 1: reading off of a page. I feel like she's getting
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  Speaker 1: she's probably getting money.
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  Speaker 2: From planned parenthood. I'm just gonna say it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: She's getting money from the plant parenthood and and the
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  Speaker 1: and the you know, the World Economic Forum and stuff
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  Speaker 1: to go.
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  Speaker 2: On there and say I'm a libertarian feminist.
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  Speaker 1: Here are all my feminist talking points that are literally
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  Speaker 1: identical to all all other feminist talking points. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna use this, you know, like kind of fashionable ideology
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  Speaker 1: of libertarianism to back this up. But ultimately I'm really
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  Speaker 1: not that because you know, I have the same the
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  Speaker 1: same narratives that I'm spewing.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I was gonna cast shade on her junk
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  Speaker 3: that she has on the back here, back here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, let's just uh, let's just okay, jump She's
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  Speaker 1: like laying the stage out, but let's jump ahead. Trash. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm just saying, like to say, well,
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  Speaker 1: women are women are independent now, and therefore you know,
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  Speaker 1: men are men are just being babies. That's It's just
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's almost like she takes pleasure in
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  Speaker 1: this for equality.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, well she takes pleasure in it because it's
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  Speaker 3: it it it is a negation of supposedly men's identity
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  Speaker 3: as being the strong leaders. So she takes pleasure in that.
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  Speaker 3: She's taking pleasure and poking them in the face because
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  Speaker 3: of that you know, it's it's it is a thing,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I'll leave it at that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but what can actually be done about it?
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  Speaker 5: Who should be doing the doing?
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna discuss all of that today, but before we
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  Speaker 4: dive into this episode, make sure.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to jump ahead too, so she's basically got
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  Speaker 1: to get to three minutes.
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  Speaker 3: We know where I found out recently the divorce rate
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  Speaker 3: in the fifties was almost the same as it is now.
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  Speaker 3: Did you know that? And the divorce rate in the
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  Speaker 3: forties was one third what it is now now. There
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  Speaker 3: was more marriages overall, but divorce was happening about its
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  Speaker 3: same amount. So it's not like we've increased by by
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  Speaker 3: all of this, we've increased per capita divorce. Women back
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  Speaker 3: then can get divorces, and they were getting divorces, and
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  Speaker 3: they were getting alimony when they got a divorce. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure why she's saying they were so
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  Speaker 3: hard done by. And the other thing is that I
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: was thinking about this, if being a wife and taking
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: care of a home is itself a job, Well, when
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: you lose your job, you get a new one, right,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: So what's the problem when men lose their jobs, they
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: get a new one. Anyway, let's keep going.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's keep going.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Forced to walk around in full hoods at all times.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: There's also been a rise and anti women rhetoric on
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: the right in the US, which I've covered extensively here.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: There's been growing attacks on women who don't have kids
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: by prominent GOP Republicans, and also incidents of women dying
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: even here in my own state of Georgia, due to
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: insane restrictions that replace some reproductive health in some states
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: post adoptions SI. So given this environment, isn't hard to
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: see why some women are arguing that men have either
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: brought the loneliness epidemic on themselves, or at the very least,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: that women's problems are still more pressing and men should
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: care about some of these things.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: What are the problems that she mentioned the interest?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me no, don't reverse it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Just tell me I don't need to hear her again.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, Well, basically she's saying that, you know, like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: women still have problems today, and she gave a few examples.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: She even mentioned she calls it a tax, which is
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: really stupid. That's a brain dead take right there. When
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: somebody says or like you said, simply criticizes women right
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: for their political choices or whatever, or or even just
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: like says, you know, maybe motherhood isn't the worst thing.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And there are women saying this, not just men. And
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: she's like, those are attacks on women. So this the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: fact that there are people like Jadie Vancis saying, you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: so I don't like the idea that childless cat ladies
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: are essentially directing, you know, the deciding the future of
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: our country. And it's something I've talked about too, because
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, if you're not invested in the future,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and you're just mad because cat turn trolled you successfully
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: on Twitter, and you're like, I'm going to vote to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: destroy everything well just to get back at him. Well, yeah,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna criticize you for that because that's boneheaded and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you deserve it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: But Hannah Cox.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Sees that, and she's like, oh, women are being attacked online, you.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Know, And it's like, no, you're a moron.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: You're a moron, and you're a moron that can hide
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: behind the fact that you're a woman, and and white
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: knights will come forward and defend you because we're not
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: supposed to criticize women, ever, and that's how easy it
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: is for this to become a conversation about, well, men
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: brought this on themselves. And she even says, well, I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: can understand how some women would say that men brought
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this on themselves, and she's it sounds like she's giving
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: us a little bit of, you know, the benefit of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: the doubt. But she does it because she just doubles
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: down on that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: For the rest of the video.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: So really she's not saying I can see how some women.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: She's saying, I agree with these women in their right,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: but I won't say that because I'm spineless. I'm a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: parasite that essentially just uses my ideology to infiltrate, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: probably what we need, which is a small government solution.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: But she doesn't really believe in any of that, so
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: she's just gonna say women are we should be focusing
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: on women right now. Surprise, the feminist wants to focus
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: on women no matter how bad things get for men.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: There's some guy saying unpolite things on the internet, so
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: it stop, everybody stop. And she also mentioned women in
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the Middle East and stuff, because that's an easy one
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to do too.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: So okay, of course, and what if the Party of
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: single women is destroying the economy, is destroying the border,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: is destroying all of these things, and now you're saying
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: we can't criticize those. They're the voting patterns right of
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: basically the largest voting demographic and getting bigger. So we
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: is this is this how it all ends. We have
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the party of single women who vote for destruction, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: then we have the conservative, supposedly conservative and libertarian women
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: who say we can't criticize that. Well, then you get
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: more of it. Like literally, she's basically saying she has
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: no position but the same positions, no position but the
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: identical position of the voters who are voting in everything
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: she supposedly stands against. That's what these conservative women are doing.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: They're saying, I have no position except caping for the
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: people who are voting for the things that I'm supposedly against.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Well you're not unless you allow that we can criticize
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the majority voters who are voting for this stuff and
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: ask ourselves how do we stop this? Then you are
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: all you're doing, all you're doing, functionally is caping for
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: that position. So basically, we have all women who are
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: going to vote for the destruction of the West based
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: on their vanity projects around supposed morality. And then we
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: have the few men who might stand up to them,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: and then mostly conservative men who the instant conservative women
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: say oh, hey, you can't criticize conservative women. They are
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: caping for women. They're like, yeah, that's totally true, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: we are all losing because we criticize the people who
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: are causing the problem. The problem comes. You see how
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: this works. It's like this insane mental trap. Women are
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: creating a problem, and I'm just gonna say it, women
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: are creating a problem. The other women who aren't part
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of the group of women creating the problem. Cape they
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: turn around, point their spears outward and say, we're gonna
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: protect those women creating this problem because you cannot criticize
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the women as a group. You can't even criticize the
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: women as a group. By saying women are doing this
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean the whole group does it, but a substantial
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: portion of it does and we need to deal with it. No,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: they're gonna put in their spears outward and protect them
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: while they do it. And conservative men are going to
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: look at this and say, the reason why this problem
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: is happening is because men are criticizing women. Do you
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: see how it's now what do you do? Like? He
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: goes from a problem being created by single women and
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: they're voting patterns, right, and then it goes to conservative
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: women say you cannot, you cannot, you can't call out women,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: you can't criticize women. And then the conservative men say, oh,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: this problem actually exists because we men criticize women. And
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: it's this mental trap that we get into that we
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: remove blame from women, remove responsibility from women, and then
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: somehow men it's a mental trap that we're in. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: it's because of the way that for generations we've structured
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: our identities. Women are sorry, men act women are acted upon.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, yep, all right, let's place more of the video.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Growing attacks on women who don't have kids by prominent
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: g B Republicans and also incidents of women own state
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: of Georgia.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Growing attacks? Are the attacks growing.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Growing online attacks?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: You know what? Yeah?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Like there are Like would women deserve some criticism they do?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: How much criticism have men taken? Maybe for once we
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: should create women a little? Do you think that throughout
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: all of human history there have been stories and narratives
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: like the narrative of Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh has to meet ank
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: you do, and the potemple priestesses to go from a
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: selfish ass hat to a man, a leader who's of
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: service to his community. What do women not need a
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: narrative of going from a selfish ass hat whose entire
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: worldview revolves around cheap dick abortion and vanity projects, using
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: the country for vanity project, more vanity morality. Do you
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: think that they don't need a frickin narrative? Men have
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: had the hero's journey since basically the dawn of time,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: and that hero's journey is you're an asshole, learn to
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: be better. You don't think women don't need that you're
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: an asshole, learn to be better? Yes, they do. They
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: need a role model to constantly talk about role models.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: They need a set of mythologies that say, actually, ladies,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: when you just pop out with your men stration in
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: your boobs, actually that doesn't make you a good person.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: You have to develop, and you have to earn it,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: and you have to overcome your natural inclination to do
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: wrong and be selfish and be an asshole. We need
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: the female Gilgamesh, all right, I'm done, all right.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: That's okay, let's keep going.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Due to insane restrictions that replaced some reproductive health in
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: some states posted oops decisions. So given this environment, it
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: isn't hard to see why some women are arguing that
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: men have either brought the loneliness epidemic on themselves, or
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: at the very least, that women's problems are still more
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: pressing and men should care about some of these things
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: first before women are expected to come in and fix
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: their loneliness crisis. This discussion has been raped.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: You see how like sarcastic and condescending she is. I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like she was getting it in the comments, though, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: will say the men were pissed off, or at least
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like the people.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Commenting, they were not thrilled with her.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Take, which is good because normally these Hanna Coock's videos
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: get a lot of praise.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's literally if men are lonely, where they
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: can confind they can find companionship with each other, do
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: you want a world like that? Like I snap my
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: fingers tomorrow, Hannah Cocks and men regard each other as
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: more important companions than women. Therefore their loneliness epidemic is over.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: But then who has a loneliness epidemic? If men solve
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: themselves their loneliness epidemic and they start to only be
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: interested in you know, platonic I'm gonna use their old word,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: romance comes to mind. I know that's probably wrong, but
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: you know, platonic relationships with other men, you know, go
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: wear a toga in a forest and cogitate about geometry,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: you know, and and and make beer like the like
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: the medieval monks. If men do that, If men solve
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: this problem for themselves, are you sure you want that?
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Because that means they don't need you?
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: All right, platforms online, I'll give you a few examples.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: This person on Twitter said, the male loneliness epidemic is
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: simply accountability for men's misogyny.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Leave them alone and maybe they will learn.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Another person who was responding to the report out the
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Swiss model who was murdered by her husband, said, strangled, dismembered,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: and parade and an effing blunder by her husband. But
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: y'all want me to care about a male loneliness epidemic?
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I got you on. I got you on. Every A
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: woman strangled her partner during sex, dismembered his body well,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: she actually literally was raping him as she murdered him,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: dismembered his body, and left his remains in a bucket
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: for his mother to find. Yes. And also I looked
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: at the stats on this. When women kill an intimate partner,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: their crimes are unbelievably like serial kills are psychotic in
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: terms of their brutality. They're far more brutal than men.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Men will just shoot their partner. Women will, you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: cut off little pieces of him while he's sewn to
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: a chair and feed it to them and then chop
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: his head off some horrific thing like that. Like, women
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: are beyond the pale when it comes to domestic murder.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: So don't give me this shit. And again, these are
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the behaviors of the extreme element of both male and females.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: These are criminals. This doesn't relate to men who are lonely,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: which is the average man or the not necessarily the
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: average man, but more and more the average man. There's
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: no connection there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I get the sense that the women that she is
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: referencing or quoting in these posts are she's using as
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: justification as to why men don't deserve empathy or sympathy
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: from women. But they have to use these extreme cases,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: these anecdotal events, you know, which are really unfortunate and everything.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: But it's it's it's funny because they're they're like, y'all
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: want me to care about male loneliness, but this one
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: thing happened over here, so none of y'all deserve anything now,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and you're supposed and so like it's it's like, so
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you don't really care at all, Like you're just we're
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: looking for reasons. You're yeah, you're looking for reasons, and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you're creating the condition so that you can just look
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the other way and pretend like you don't care. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: it's okay, you don't have to pretend. You can just
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: say I don't give a shit about men. We get it,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: like we get it. We know, we understand. Don't pretend
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: like you would if only there was never murder, because
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, We would care about you if
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: only crime didn't exist, and if only we lived in
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a utopia. Also, I'm a libertarian, doesn't believe in utopia
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: because that's bad, but I do when it comes to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: human nature. Yeah, so you know, it's like I just
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: don't you're.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Not a serious person.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Let's let's yeah, let's let her read the rest of this.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Out every single day.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: But I'm supposed to believe that miss Sandry is quote
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: just as bad as misogyny. And lastly, this person said,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: most of the quote male loneliness epidemic is women just
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: choosing not to interact with awful men, and the men
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: crying that they are entitled to women's attention and affection
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: and bodies and listen, I'm going to push back on
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: some of this, but the frank truth is there are
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: some men who need to be avoided, who are dangerous,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: who are destructive.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are women who also need to be
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: avoided and they're dangerous and they're destructive. Can you acknowledge that?
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that's blaming women. We can't do that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think blame women is experiencing a loneliness epidemic.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, like seriously, yeah, Like these like murderers literally
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: killing women.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Literally killing women. And he got a flood of love
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: letters for thousand, to the point where his jailers had
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: to request that women stop like that man, that man
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: if he was ever released, And there was a lot
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: of women who were begging the judge to release him.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: If he walks out of the prison, he's gonna have
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: like women like they're not even gonna be jumping on them.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: They're just gonna be like just like like there, their
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: pussies are a magnet right on his cock just at
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: the moment he exits prison. Just he's gonna be like
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: a tum like one of those.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: Those balls, those balls, and like no, no, this Japanese
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: game where you you hacka to mour or something where
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: you create this gigantic ball.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: You're you're sticky and then you you you consume everything
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: into a ball. He's he's gonna come out of the
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: prison and he's gonna be a kada mari a fuck
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: like literally women humping him. And he is a serial
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: killer of women.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: They might kill them.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I mean they like they.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Might help them to death. They love him to death.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, death by snoop snoop.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Death by snoop snoop. Because he's a serial killer. Don't
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: give me this shit.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm yep, all right, let me see here. Uh yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: so she's slits. I could play a little bit more
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: of this or jump to the next bit.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: I'll play more of this, and I think anyone who's
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: ever tried to befriend like the weird kid has probably
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: had to learn the hard way at least once that
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of the times, the people who are alone
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: are alone for a reason, of course, all of them.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: But I've had this experience myself where you try to
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: befriend somebody, you try to like socially elevate them, you
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: try to help them, and you realize like, oh, this
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: person does not want to be helped, is not helpable.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Whether that's because there's really something sinister about them, or
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: they have serious moral failings, or they're extremely negative, they
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: have their mental issues that need to be dealt with,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: or maybe they are just really dense people who are
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: incapable of learning some lessons and fixing themselves and the
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: ways that they need to do in order to be
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: socially acceptable.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: So that's really cold again, Like what if they're what
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: if they don't have any life experience, What if they're
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: extremely shy and introverted. What if they're like, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: not comfortable like around people. Do you just call them
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: psychos and then run away? I mean, I know that
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: women do that. I know that women do that. I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: know that you ladies, if the guy isn't like coming
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: out of the factory like completely ready to go. Everything
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: is set. He doesn't have anything else to do. He's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: got his business, he's got his bugattis, he's got his
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: bank account, he's got great credit, he's highly educated, he's
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: super you know smart, he's got his own business. He
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: can travel. Unless he and he's like, you know, really charismatic,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: he can sweep your parents off their feet. Unless he
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: comes out like that, you're gonna be You're gonna get
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the ick, and that's gonna be the end. So I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: guess this is the thing that Hannacos doesn't see is
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that the problem isn't that with loneliness is not that
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: men aren't doing enough. The problem with it is that
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: women's like tastes, their preferences are completely like completely delusional,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: delusional like what they expect. And I know that there's
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: plenty of videos out there that you can find of
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: women on the street, like absolute beasts of women, handbast
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: women and they're like what do you want? And they're
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like six inches, six figures, six feet tall, you know,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: fucking six pack, all of it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: They want all of it, no matter what they look like.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: And that's a problem for men, but it's also a
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: problem for them because they're not gonna find that guy.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: They're probably gonna find a fuck boy. He's gonna use
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: them and discard him, and then that's it. You're not
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: gonna see him again. Like, then they're gonna be hurt,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and then they're gonna blame all men. Oh my god,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: men are terrible. Because the guy that I went after,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: who had pick of the litter, use me like a
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: fucking you know, cox sleeve and doesn't call me anymore.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: And it must be the fault of all men and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: not the fact that I have delusional standards and I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: don't even hold myself to standards, Like they'll be like, yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm like six figures in college debt.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I have like a shitty job as.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: A barista or in retail somewhere, you know that doesn't
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: pay much.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not management material.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I still live at home with my parents, because when
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: women live at home with their parents, there's nothing shameful
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: about that. So they can do that and still date,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and men can't have an opinion on it because you
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: can't criticize women. So the problem is not at least
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: solely on men. Obviously, women have to be a part
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of the solution. But the only way that's gonna have
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: a chance of changing is if they pull their head
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: out of their own ass and see the world as
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: it is and see their place in it, and stop
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: allowing themselves to be you know, deluded in thinking that
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: they're worth so much more, stop thinking you're the table.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: That's the only way.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: So anyway, well, yeah, or just remain diluted. But let's
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: let's look at other factors as well. It's not just
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: women's insane standards. But you know, they would say, well,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, if I don't care about being lonely, then
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I can have whatever standards I want. Right. Of course,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: women are getting more lonely and more depressed, more miserable.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: In fact, they're more miserable than men, which you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know why Hannah Cox is crowing about this, because.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Well she'll make a video about it and say it's
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: men's fault.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Though, yeah, but I mean, lonely men ultimately means lonely women.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: But regardless, I mean, we could talk about women's in
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: stained standards, which are probably like partly due to the
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: fact that we have a gigantic government funded campaign advertising
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: campaigns selling women on the idea that men are poor
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: partners and.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: That women are amazing no matter what they look like.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: And and the thing is that well not just looks like,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: just take looks out of it. That they're poor partners
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: because they don't do their their equivalent forair share and relationship,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: that they make terrible parents, that they are a net
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: drain on you emotionally, Like there's the constant drumbeat and
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: their abusive and blah blah blah. You know, it's a
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: constant drumbeat of saying that men are not worth investing
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: in if you're a woman. Well, that would tend to
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: cause women to inflate their standards to unbelievable degrees because
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: they think, well, if I'm going to have all of
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: these deficits, then I better get something worth it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: But this is all lies. I mean, she talks about
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: our previous generation, women in the previous generation being hard
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: done by. And we just watched a movie or a
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: series of documentaries on the feminist of the seventies and eighties,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: and they showed a commercial or a video of a
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: woman being put upon by her husband who was being
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: sort of rude and aggressive about what she expected. But
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: she just walked out of a beautifully modern kitchen with
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: all the modern labor saving devices that was paid for
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: by him. Like in the past, if you had kept
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: your mouth shut, women had a situation where they had
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of leisure. That's why they started to have
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: soap operas during the day, because women had time to
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: do what they wanted, right, That's why they had all
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: of this stuff. Like a whole bunch of leisure stuff
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: came about in the fifties because suddenly women had free
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: time because men's labor and economy took their labor, their
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: domestic labor from twelve hours a day, six days a week.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Is I keep repeating, but this really critical point to
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: three hours a day, five days a week. And maybe
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: if you have kids, you have to deal with them
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: in the morning, in the evening when they come back
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: from school. Maybe young kids are quite a labor intensive,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: but eventually you're gonna get a lot of leisure time.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: And women have never forgiven men for it, forgiving them
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: a life of leisure. And I can say that that
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: just speaks to their resentment, but it may also speak
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: to something else. Maybe The real problem is women don't
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: have a job, like a job that they're not competing
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: with men out being out competed by men basically, but
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: their own thing, which they used to have throughout all
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: of human history, they had their own thing, right, they
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: had their own contribution that made them feel more feminine.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: We don't realize this now, but the ability to spin
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: thread used to be a huge part of a woman's
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: identity and her sense of being a valuable asset. And
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: we don't even realize that because it's completely it's gone
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: in history. We don't even understand it anymore. But she
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: considered that an aspect not unnecessarily for physical attractiveness, but
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: of her social attractiveness and her value to her community
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: and her household. Is a part of her femininity, and
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: it was an action and an activity that she engaged in.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: What action and activity that women uniquely engage in that
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily just fall down to biology? That's theirs that
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: they haven't that there is anymore none. So when I
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: say women never forgave men for giving them all this
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: leisure time, I think it's because deep deep down they
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: feel useless, and all of this is coming out of
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: it and they keep grasping to make themselves feel more
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: and more useless. I mean, what has Hannah Cox done
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: since the beginning of this video. She has disavowed any
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: effect of her actions, which turns her into something that
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: is useless. So she keeps embracing uselessness. And yet it's
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: like somebody who it's like the hair of the dog
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: that bit an alcohol like that's drinking more to recover
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: from the hangover from yesterday. Right, That's what she is.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: That's what all women are who are stuck in this
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: cycle of uselessness. Okay, Yeah, that was a lot to say.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you don't really get what I'm saying.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: No, no, we get it.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna move to the next thing I
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: think this is.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Let me just check my notes here.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gonna talk about toxic masculinity. I think that
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: we have to hear about that. You know, we all
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: hate this concept. It's garbage, I know, but you gotta
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: hear about it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Noba fan.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: By the way, Noba Fan twenty one sent us a
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: rumble rant for one dollar and says, I love how
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: she believes that both that men have zero incentive to
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: be kind to women at all, and that men will suddenly,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: after this entire time, will for once be kind of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: women without any incentive. Yes, there is no incentive, but
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: there should be, and men should do it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Anyways because it's the right thing to do.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: But even that, I see what he's saying. She's saying
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: men are the enemy of women, and if women are
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: cruel enough, finally men will stop being our enemy. That's
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: feminism in a nutshell. Like that is coffee shop feminism
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: in a nutshell. Men have always been our enemies, and
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: if we're just cruel enough to them, they will stop
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: being our enemies. That's not how it works, not at all.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's get into some some tons of masculinity.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Oh they're a superchold. It didn't come up for me.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Hold on, Richard Viere. I know these are music requests.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: But Richard Vie gives us five dollars and says, Alison,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: if women are allowed to be blamed for anything, the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: patriarchy will implement a combination of the Handmaid's Tale and
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: the Stepford Wives combined and put all women into positions
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: of forever servitude. Don't forget the singularity we're gonna upload
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: men's consciousness to AI, and the termino robe will be
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: the husband that never gets tired and continues to work.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: But we'll also be able to accept blame because we'll
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: still be blaming.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Them, you know.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: So anyway, all right, so toxic masculinity, let's do it.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: And I really just don't think we can have a
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: discussion about loneliness without acknowledging that fact. Some of these
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: guys do not need to be coddled or felt sorry for.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: They need to work on themselves, and in the meantime,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: women certainly should not be guilted into rescuing them. Which again,
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: why are women doing the rescuing here in the first place?
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: Okay, wait a second, wait a second. Being told, how is.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: It that she can say that men are expected to
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: rescue women from shit, that men should pay attention to
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: women's issues first and foremost, and then suddenly went well,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: but no, women shouldn't have to do because that would
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: mean we're useful. God forbid, I ever have a swinge
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: of usefulness of my tire, goddamn life as a woman.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: But it's like she demands what she will not give.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: You, See what I'm saying yep, yep.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: And why is it? Because maybe women are the only
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: ones who can fix it? Hannah, Maybe have you ever
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: considered that?
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: All right, let's keep going.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Hold that men are the natural leaders and protectors and
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: the doers and societies built on their back.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: But like, yet it's always women. Maybe it's a lie, Like.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: She's built the straw man. Now she has to tear
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it down. We haven't lived in that world that she's
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: criticizing in a long time.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: All right, So does she actually believe that men are
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: the leaders and the strong ones? And then you know, okay,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: then she doesn't believe it. Then she doesn't believe it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Then how is that a counter argument to men having
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: vulnerabilities to women?
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Exactly? Like she's, like I said, she doesn't want the
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: What what I think her thesis is is that, well,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: actually I don't care about the male loneliness epidemic. But
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I can't just come out and say that because I
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: want to get subscribers. So what I'm gonna say instead
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is I'm gonna misrepresent men, because that's what she's doing.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna misrepresent the male position here and say that, oh,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: ifell you guys wanted to be big strong men, you know,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: like Tim the toolman Taylor, And and then I'm gonna
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: tear that down like I'm gonna build it up, and
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna tear it down and declare victory on it.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: And that's what she's doing.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna claim that now, because of this
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: thing I made up that I'm now criticizing, I can
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: then justify the thing that I always believe, which is
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: that I don't give a shit about men.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: It occurs to me just right now that she would
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: not acknowledge men's position as superior, as stoic, as the
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: strong sex, as the leader in any other capacity, but
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: to delegitimate their requests for assistance or help.
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: She's not gonna she's not gonna recogn that outside of saying, well,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: how can you be this? If you're not, if you're
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: if you're vulnerable, Like, she's not going to go out
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: and say, hey, actually, it's men's stoicism and emotional strength
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: and higher tolerance for risk taking that leads them to
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: be the primarily responsible for having my lights on, having electricity,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: having heating, all that kind of stuff. Now, she's never
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: gonna say that's never gonna acknowledge it. Maybe maybe she
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: did somewhere, but that's what I'm saying. She only acknowledges
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: this in order to insult and belittle men when they
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: ask for something, for their vulnerabilities to be considered to
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: be brought to the table as a consideration. So you
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: don't get to use it unless you acknowledge it, Hannah,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: unless you acknowledge men's superior leadership, strength, and innovation and
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: abilities in any other capacity, but negating their right for help,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: you don't get to appeal to that. To negate their
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: right to help, you first have to acknowledge that that
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: is the identity that they have. You see what I mean?
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Otherwise it's complete hypocrisy, Okay.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: Right, problems. It's quite ironic.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: These are the same red pill bros that fill the
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: comments of women telling.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Them that they'll hit a wall, that they're.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: Useless cat ladies, that men should avoid women who go
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: to therapy or take anti depressed in medications, which is
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: just so moronic. And they're also the same ones telling
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: men that marriage isn't worth it for them, that they
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: should just choose to be alone, that women bring nothing
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: to the table, that men are better off going it alone.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: Here's an example of one of those that real.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Quick, I just want to say, uh yeah, like twenty
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: percent of millennial women are on SSRIs. It's a crazy
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: high number and they are very depressed, and the wall
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: is just the truth. It's essentially to like try men
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: are trying to shake women into common sense and say, look,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: you don't have a ton of time. You should start
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: thinking about this shit and stop doing the fucking you know,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: doing the club sex in the city thing that you
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: think is gonna last forever. It's not like men are
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: literally trying to warn these women and they're treating it
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: like an attack, right, So yeah, but I mean what
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: are you gonna do?
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, but didn't she just get through repeating
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: a tweet where they said, while men have earned their
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: loneliness because they're unattractive. So she's basically saying that these
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: guys the red pill. She charges the red pill guys
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: as saying that, you know, women will hit the wall.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Women aren't worth it because they don't bring anything to
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: the table because they think they are the table. Therefore
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: they sort of deserve to be childless cat ladies. Well,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: she's basically just pointing like, the same exact framework applied
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: to men, which she said, yes, queen too, is now
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: being applied to women. And she's like, how dare no, it's.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: It's actually ridiculous that you would say that, even though
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: the data bears it out.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: But not just that, like she's again being a hypocrite
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: because he pointed to a tweet that framed men's loneliness
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: in terms of their own inability or or even I
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: know he and now she's saying no, but the red pillbros, Well, okay,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe both of you do that kind of cocks
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Maybe you're exactly like a red pill bro, except for men.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Why the red pill bros have a point though, Like
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: this one, breaking up with your girlfriend in order to
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: grind harder is a sacred right that separates the boys
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: from the men. What does he see now? I know
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: this is like you're gonna get into the the You
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: know that no one gets it define what a real
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: man is. But what he's saying is is that maybe
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: it's better that instead of guys sulking about the fact
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: that they're lonely.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: And I get it. I've been lonely. I know how
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: it feels.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: It's not fun but maybe if they focus on you know,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: like their career or building, like you know, acquiring capital
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is, that they will at least get
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: more out of that and they'll be in a position
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: to not you know, like they they're doing something. Essentially,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: what he's saying is, you know, seize the day, find
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: your purpose, don't worry about the women, disregard women, acquire currency, right,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that's bad advice, like, especially if
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: women are like though, these guys are all dusty and
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: they're and they you know, they're not they're not they're
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: not trying hard enough or whatever. And if you get
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: there as a man, then all of a sudden you
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: can be the picky one.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: You can be like now, you know what, you.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Still have a home with your parents, your your six
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: figures in debt.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not fucking with.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: You, okay. I just want to pull out a comment
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: from our live stream. Chris Juinarette says, are women being
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: asked for help? Are they just asking to be able
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: to set or men just asking to be able to
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: set up men's groups at universities and other places without pushback.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I want to do address that, because yeah, that's the
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: elephant in the living room.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: He's coming up in this too, but go ahead.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Oh really?
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Oh mens?
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, or do.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: You want to finish? You want to? You want more?
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Hannah Cocks, not less? Okay, I get it, I get it.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: You like to suffer?
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Or or maybe you're a completionist. That's fine, I understand.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: I'm also a completionist.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh crap, did I spell it wrong.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Hold on a second, I'm just trying to find.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Are you trying to find a time code? Okay? Well, yeah,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: that is a really good point, Chris, because we have seen,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: and I have seen with my very own eyes, how
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: feminists like Hannah Cox, whenever men try to get together
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: and deal with things like suicide, sexual abuse, domestic violence,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: all of that kind of stuff, they go through with
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: a baseball bat and start beating the crap out of everything.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: And that's not you know what, that's not even metaphorically metaphorical.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Sometimes there's somebody who supports us regularly. He actually supported
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: the meetup that we did last month, and he attempted
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: to put together a sexual assault survivors group for men,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: and it was like a peer counseling support group, and
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: it was in a college campus on in Canada, and
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: he was actually confronted by the feminist members of the
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: feminist group on that college campus, one of whom was
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: wielding a crowbar that was painted pink. And I know
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: this because he took it. Took me out to his
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: car and he opens the trunk and he shows me
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: this crowbar. Because when the dude was wielding it, like
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: threatening him with it, and he's like, I'm going to
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: beat you if you don't stop this. He actually took
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: it from him. He's like, I don't think you want
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: to do that, and then and then took it and
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: put it in the back of his car. Never had
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: a problem with having to return it. But it's like,
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: that's the kind of pushback men who are trying to
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: get these kinds of groups together. And I've heard this
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: over and over and over again. It's men are trying
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: to connect with one of another, They're trying to help
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: each other with their issues. Women like Hannacos are going
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: over and kicking over the tables, kicking down the doors,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: threatening the men, maybe not physically, but threatening them with
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: being accused of something and getting it disbanded. Making policies
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: to exclude men coming together in groups, and it's continuous. Yeah. Sure,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: maybe men could address this issue themselves if women stopped
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: bullying them when they try. But then men we have
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: to blame women, we have to right, all right, did
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: you find your time code?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to Okay, hold on, okay, I want because
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: there's some some all right, all.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Right, hold on, I will do I'll do another.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: College ninety six fifty six, like maybe like right, this
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: is about marriage?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Oh good mard.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: She basically claims that women, you know, I don't have
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: to read this one. She basically claims that that marriage
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: continues to benefit men more than women, and men suffer
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: far more when they are alone. So look, men need marriage,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: women don't, is essentially what she's saying. Or at least
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: men need it more now that women have their own money,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: their own independence, they can leave you. I think that's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: true for a man, a wife maybe the only confidante.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: That's not true for women. Women have much better social support. Yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: that's the bit I was trying to get to. So
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: let's go, like, where is this Maybe it's like.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: More when they are alone.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: Now, men need marriage more than women need it. The
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: things that men get from marriage. The stereotypical thing a.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Bullshit.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: This is bullshit from stem to stern. In the past,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: it was almost impossible to have a household without a woman,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: either as a housekeeper or as a wife, because the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: amount of work required to either do in a household
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: or direct in a household required somebody with expertise who
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: could occupy that role. That has been taken over by
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: machines and utilities. So one, men do not need women
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: in the role that they've had in the past. They don't.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: The bachelors can live perfectly fine without him a female
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: housekeeper and without a wife, because they can get a
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: they can get a dryer washer to do their laundry,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: they can get a dishwasher to do their dishes, they
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: can get they can order out and get cans of food.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's everything that women used to do is
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: basically been taken over by industrialization. So women's jobs no
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: longer needed period in the home. Nope, there aren't. You aren't.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: You are not needed in the home. And that's I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: think part of the problem that we're seeing because of
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: the uselessness. As I talked about earlier. The other thing
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: is that this idea that women don't get a benefit
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: from marriage is based on a mistake in the statistics.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: So there was a statistical researcher looked that I think
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: time use surveys or happy and happiness surveys, like a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: general I think it was a general social survey of
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: the US. And he looked at a particular stat of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: how married people responded to a questionnaire if their house
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: if their spouse was present and not present, And he
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: thought that that meant present in the room. It actually
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: meant not present at all, right, or actually the reverse,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: or anyway, he made a mistake. The actual truth is
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: that men and women are far happier when they're married.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: This has been the case for a very long time.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: The difference between men and women is about three percent,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: and that's maintained since like the fifties, three percent three percent.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Women have resentment in relationships three percent more than men do.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Basically don't know why. Maybe they're neurotic, you know, but regardless,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: there's a very small differential, and they make what they
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: do is they make a big to do about the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: fact that men may be happier married than unmarried than
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: women are very single versusmarried. However, what they do is
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: they lump in divorce to men with always single men
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: and they compare that to married men. That's not fair.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: But when you compare compare married to single, divorced, separated,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: et cetera, married is absolutely tops the chart. You know,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: you could take a married woman, her happiness versus her
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: extreme unhappiness is the absolute inverse of a single woman,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: especially a single woman with children. Guaranteed, you take a
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: married woman, she's going to be happier and she's going
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: to have significantly less unhappiness than a single woman, in
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: particular a single woman with children. So when we encourage
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: women to be single and to be single with children,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: we are encouraging them to be miserable. I'm going to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: repeat that, we are encouraging them to be miserable. And
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: the differential between married, happily married men and happily so small,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: it's insignificant. And yet these people make such a huge
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: deal out of it in order to create a sense
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: of resentment in women that men get more out of marriage.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: They don't really get more out of marriage. I think
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: it's more like men are content with less.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fairly certain that this clip is from a
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: modern wisdom Chris Williamson thing. So I'm want to play
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: the rest of it, because that's that's how she gets like, yeah,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I think this guy's wrong. I don't know what it
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: is with these like so called like moderate dudes that
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: are like always essentially like shitting on men or shitting
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: on men's problems.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: The thing.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: Stereotypically a woman was getting from the marriage. She now
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: doesn't actually need that stuff from a man. She can
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: kind of get that herself because society shifted where it's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: not a case that the woman stays at home and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: raises the kids all the time. Now the woman's got
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: her own money, her own independence, she can leave you.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I think that's true for a man a wife. You ever,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. Okay, but let's let's stop here, stop here. Okay,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: a woman didn't need doesn't need a man. But here's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: the thing. I just explained how if you wanted to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: have a household in the past, and I'm talking pre
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: industrial evolution and during parts of the industrial evolution before
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: it was completed, you needed to have a female housekeeper
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: or a woman because there was so much that needed
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: to be done domestically for people to have lighting, for
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: people to have heating, for people to have food that
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: could be that was edible in winter, for people to
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: have clothing, for people to have water, you know, for
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: people basic medicine was often done in the home. So
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: you needed a woman if you wanted a household. That's
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: why a lot of bachelors had female housekeepers. I don't
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: know if you noticed that, like all those crazy like scientists,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: they all had like female housekeepers. That's why, because you
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: needed a woman's labor to hold it, to have a household.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: That means every single man who goes home today to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: an empty apartment without a woman couldn't have survived a
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: couple centuries ago. I mean, even like you look at
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: ancient Rome, there were laws where only women could get
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: water from the public fountains. I mean, it's it like
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: there was reliance on men were physically reliant on women's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: labor in the past. That's gone, And yet somehow that
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: doesn't translate and explain the situation between men and women.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: So men are no longer physically or materially reliant on
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: women the way they were, but they still seem to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: be interested in relationships with them. But you say that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: women are no longer physically and materially reliant on men,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: and that's why they no longer have to have relationships
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: with them. Well, men are equally free, Like, this is
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: a thing. There was a huge There wasn't just huge
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: social stigma against bachelors in the past, it was also
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: in many cases physically impossible. That's why men had went
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: to boarding houses with like a land am. That was
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest professions for women in the past
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: was to run a boarding house. You know, feed clothe,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: make sure they have all the utilities and can function.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: You know, right, that was a thing you men needed.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Women's labor physically that's disappeared. And then suddenly we're using
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: the excuse that women no longer need men physically and
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: materially in the same way, and that's why they're not interested. No,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: it doesn't work. That's not why something else happened, because
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: it's same thing, the same deal for men. Even more so,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: Like I can't emphasize this enough. Women's labor is no
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: longer needed at all. Men can do it alone. They can't.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: They are completely now independent and autonomous of women in
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: a way that was never the case in the past,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: women are more dependent on men in that sense than
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: men are on women, And yet we use that as
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: an explanation why women no longer need relationships with men.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Why is that?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Why is exactly? Are almost exactly the same circumstance for men,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: men not needing women physically anymore? Not in it?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Not? Like?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I know, do you get what I'm saying, Brian, Yeah,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: do you understand the question I'm asking.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: You're saying, why is it that we have essentially made
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: women purposeless or at least made them, you know, like
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: we've made their lives so comfortable that we no longer
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: need them for anything? And yet they're like blaming men.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, let me try it again. Let me try
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: it again. They are saying, these two people are saying
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: that men women no longer rely on men materially and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: physically that the way they did in the past, and
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: that explains why women are not interested in relationships with men.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: But the same thing holds true for men. Men are
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: not reliant on women in the way they were materially
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: and physically in the past. So something else is going on,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: and I wonder if it has anything to do with
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: that aforementioned advertising campaign that's telling all women that men
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: are a bad choice.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, I wonder.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: If it has anything to do with these two freaking
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: idiots there who are basically saying, Wow, men are a
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: terrible choice for women. We should tell all women that.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: And by the way, women aren't getting into relationships with men,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: not because we're telling them that that men are a
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: terrible choice for them, but because they're physically free, even
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: though men are also physically free. See what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: I do, I go yeah, yeah, good.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think that ultimately there are multiple initiatives
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: to essentially control the human population, and they take many
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: different forms, and one of them is essentially to create
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: this dynamic that men and women are not, you know
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: of like moving through life together, but rather they are
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: on opposite sides of a battlefield, and everything is being
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: measured by this, like how poorly are women doing compared
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: to men? And so it's creating a dynamic that is
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: essentially antithetical to the nature of.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Men and women.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: But it's especially against women because they are easier to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: propagandize than men. So that and Hanna Cox is a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: part of that machine. And the best part about this
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: machine is that. You know, it's not like all of
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: these feminists online are getting letters in the mail or
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: emails with their latest orders. They've just been like put
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: through the indoctrination machine of our education system and then
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: they just let them play it out in the world
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: because they're all convinced, like all of the stuff that
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: we're dealing with comes from the first lie, you know,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the original lie that men have oppressed women all throughout
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: history and everywhere in the world, and as long as
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: they believe that in any form, than this will never
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: go away. It's the only way that's gonna stop. Because
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: if you tell them none of this is true, they're
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: gonna have in the back of their head it's like,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: oh no, but wait, men used to do this.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: They used to oppress women, so they're gonna do it again.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: If I'm not vigilant at all times, which means I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: have to see men as my enemy, you know, no
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: matter what, even if it's like men that I love,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: even if it's men who are my relatives or close friends,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: because they're still part of that enemy team. Meanwhile, men
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: are like, what the hell's going on with women? Like
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: they don't understand it because they want to love them
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: and they want to be loved by them.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: So yeah, anyway I get that.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Basically, what's happened is that men have been freed from
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: women's physical labor and from needing a woman materially, and
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: somehow that translates to women being freed from men. No,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: that's not what happened. I mean technically, you know, like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: technically the world that we live in, there's a lot
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: of bachelors from like the nineteenth century who would freaking
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: love it because they're like, Wow, I don't have to
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: deal with women at all. Sign me up. Maybe we
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: need to get back to that. Maybe men need to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: cultivate that mentality, after all, that's what Hannah Cox is
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: telling you to do. Cultivate the mentality of the nineteenth
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: century bachelor, where they they actually held a funeral for
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: every man that got married and basically said, well, you're
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: dead now. And and also we're extremely happy at any
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: opportunity to remove women from their lives. I mean, that's
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: the things that's the way you do it. And Hannah
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: Cox has given her stamp of approval on men taking
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: that kind of extreme approach to no longer relying on women.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: For anything in terms of social recognition or approval. I'm
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: not sure she really is gonna like the world that
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: results from that, but hey, she wants it because she
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to take any responsibility for the world that exists.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Now, all right, all right, let's keep going.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think men need to wake up and
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: have the wisdom to realize when they are being sold
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: a crock of shit because they are here. Companionship is important,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: It is beautiful, and it is desirable. And the problem
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: modern men are having is that companionship is changing. The
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: equation is not the same as it used to be.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: They used to get a lot more for a lot
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: less because they were operating in a depraved and oppressive
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: system like slavery, and now just like the former plantation
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: had to do.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: He is absolutely full of shit here. But she's not
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: a libertarian. She's a feminist, and she's a feminist extremist
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: because they're all extremists because they all believe the same crap.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Whenmen never oppressed women, never, Yep, this just didn't happen.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: It's lore were.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Classes of tribal groups that oppressed other classes of tribal groups,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: and sometimes it was men enacting the oppression on the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: women of those others. But it's not along men and women.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any goddamn sense.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: M all right, all right, let's play some more due.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: They have to actually learn to create value on their
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: own merit in order to obtain quality companionship. And the
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: stark reality is that a lot of them just don't
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: want to do the work.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: I saw someone make a really great you know what.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: They don't want to do the work.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: Right, And what work do women have to do to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: be quality companions that's right, nothing, unless they're trying to
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: stay in a situationship with a guy who is revolving
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: through a whole bunch of other women, like I've seen that,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: And then they apparently are attempting to attain a Buddha
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: like level of being completely detached from their relationships, which
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: is why would you even want a relationship like that?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: But regardless, what are women? What do women have to do?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: That's right? Nothing? They just have to exist? What a
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: pathetic Yeah, but what a pathetic existence to be.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be at a table that's like
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: a aesthetic.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: Mentality that you have nothing to drive for, nothing to earn, nothing,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: to achieve you're just an object. And it's so funny
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: because women like this will project this onto men. Oh
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: you think we're objects. Well, I'm the table who thinks
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: who's an object?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, when we talk about these kinds of issues, having
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: that same recognition that nobody's coming to save you.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: You're not a child.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: You're an adult now, and if you want to have
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: a beautiful and rich life, you're gonna have to build it.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: Okay, You're gonna have to actually do some things, do
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: some work in order to achieve that. It's not.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Let me finish this this bit.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: Hold on, it's gonna fall.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: You're listening to an evolutionary dead end. I mean I'm
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: also an evolutionary dead end at least I try.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Well. I mean, like it doesn't have to be a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: biological outcome, Like if we can bring people together, then
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: we've done our part.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: So but anyway, fortunately, I really think that a victim
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: mentality is like quickly replacing true masculinity. And I'm gonna
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: keep repeating this question throughout this episode because it's just
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: so such a like glaringly obvious one that needs to
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: be asked. But if men are the leaders and the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: protectors and the doers. Why aren't they doing something about
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: their own problems and society?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So she's saying.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: That men are the leaders, the protectors, and the doers
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: outside of this way of shaming them for their problems?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: Does she believe that? Does she truly believe that? I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: thought she said that women don't need men, Well they
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: do need men if men are the leaders, the doers,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: and the protectors.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Right, But that again, she's saying, if you're a big
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: bad man, then why do you need help? That's what
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: it is. It's not that she actually believes that they
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: are those things.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: She is, but she is appealing to what the thing
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: is that she is constructing this This is men's identity,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: and she's appealing to that identity to nullify their vulnerabilities. So, yeah,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: I'm sure she's full of shit, but she is actually
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: saying that this exists, otherwise you can't appeal to it.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: And what happens if men aren't like the protectors, the doers, whatever,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: what happens? Yeah, it all used to exist. But what
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, she's appealing to this identity. If she then says, well, yeah,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: well I don't believe you men are the protectors and
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: doers and and all of that, and the strong ones.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: I don't believe that. But if you don't, like if
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: you but why aren't you being that that I don't
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: believe that you are? Is what you're saying. Yeah, And
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: she's like saying, well, if you don't act in this way,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: you're not going to be this thing that I don't
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: believe you are in the first place.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Also, like why does she think men aren't trying to
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: solve their own problems? Why does she think men are,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: you know, victimizing themselves? Like where does she get that from?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Where is this happening? I mean, I know that when
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: men try to like address their problems, nothing that is
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: available to them helps, you know, Like the the the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: therapy is not is anti mail. Psychological help is anti mail.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Men have a hard time getting jobs because women have
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: essentially taken most of the jobs that men would have,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: and they used their victimhood status.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: They use a me too movement, They use.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, affirmative action policies, preferential hiring practices to get
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: these positions, and then they so they literally like use
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: top down, you know, institutions to position themselves to where
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: they make money that men could be making. And then
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: they point and laugh at those men, but they also
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: blame them for that, They blame them for the system
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: that benefits women. I don't just mean like all the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: shit that men are doing to keep society running, to
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: make it to where white collar jobs are, you know,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: actually like a thing that women can have, to create
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: HR departments, whatever it is that women do. Not only that,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: but like even the places where men could be getting jobs,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: they're giving it to women because me too movement, because
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: of unions, because of preferential practice, because of all of
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: these like initiatives. Let's get women in the workforce, let's
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: get way of the workforce. And they get them in
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: and the women, you know, they're delusional. They think they
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: got there because they're good or smart or capable or whatever,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: but there's no way of knowing because there's all this
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: preferential shit going on. And then they point at the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: men who are having a hard time getting a job
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: that they, you know, probably put themselves in debt to
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: like learn the skills for and they're saying, you're you
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: guys are losers. Because obviously, if a woman gets a
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: job in middle management. She's gonna be eyeballing the dude
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: like that's in the fucking C suite, the guy that's
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: like sitting at the board, because she won't settle for
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: men below that, because those men are not people. So
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: we've created the conditions for women to be this picky,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: and we have also limited men's access to be able
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: to just like get a job that's decent. And then
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Hannah Cox says, you guys aren't working hard enough. So
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: she supposedly is a libertarian right that believes in meritocracy,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: but she doesn't seem to have a problem with the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: fact that women are getting a leg up on an
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: institutional level due to activism, due to government grants and
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: programs and a big you know, big corporate advantages and initiatives. Corporations,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: by the way, not capitalist entities at all. They are
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: funded by the government. They're essentially fascist, that's the truth
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: about them. So Hannah Cox, bullshit libertarian doesn't see what's
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: actually going on here.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, women, they they're they're they're not going to.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Be able to it's your It's not going to be
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: easy for the to get them to see that they
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: are not probably deserving of the position they have, and
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: therefore they are looking at men that they also probably
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: don't deserve, and that men are struggling and nobody cares
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: because they're not getting any of this help. That's why
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: why is this so many men are homeless. It's because
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: they're losers. Like, why is that? You know?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: I think, I think what you're essentially saying is that
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: we we collectively decided to give put in place a
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: basically slip and slide to the finish line for women. Yeah,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: but we neglected to recognize that women judge men by
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: their what they what they themselves achieved. They don't give
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: what they achieved the men. They judge men by what
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: they themselves achieved, which leads to a lot of men
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: losing out. But as a society, we've decided to artificial,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: artificially give to give artificial achievement to women essentially, which
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: is locking a lot of men out of the marketplace.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: And that definitely isn't their responsibility. They are victims of it,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: just like any group of people who is locked out
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: of achievement institutionally is a victim of it. That's the
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: freaking hilarious thing is she talks about the situation of
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: women and men being men enslaving women in the past.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: Absolute bullshit, by the way, absolute bullshit. She's so freaking
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: ignorant of history. She should go read this short story
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: called I Think Mumu in Russian. It's a Russian short
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: story dealing with the oppression of Russian serfs, and she
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: should internalize the role of female aristocrats in that oppression
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: and realized that it was never a situation of men
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: and slaving women, but families enslaving other families, tribes enslaving
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: other tribes. And until she is educated, she can't speak
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: on this in the slightest. But I see that we're
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: finally getting to Chris's comment. Is this a front loaded
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: videos that there's not much in the back? Or are
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: we going to go through the No?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: No, no, well we could. We could do this in no no.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no no no no. Okay, no,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do it in two parts.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Do we have to do all? Right? No? I mean
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: there's there there's like a couple of things. There's this one.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Let me just let me just play this, okay right now?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: Speaking of vility, this post blew up on Twitter. This
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: week has twenty six point seven million views as of
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: this recording.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Who cares You're making it appeal to, you know, like consensus?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: That's stupid, Like I don't care how many millions of
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: people agree. Like if somebody just put posted a picture
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: of fucking you know, Thomas the tank engine and it
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: got like a billion views, Like what does that mean?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: Well, it it means that it means that this is
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: a commonly held opinion by a lot of women.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: It does. But thinks this is like she thinks this
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: is an own, not her. Any women agree, it must
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: be true. But let's let's give a listen.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: And it is a woman who's responding to a pose
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: about men's mental health matters, obviously referring to the male
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: luwliness epidemic and other issues around men's health. And she said,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: if men's mental health matter to men, they'd be creating
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: safe spaces for themselves and each other. They'd be pursuing
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: therapy and creating community. Instead, they perpetuate the very behaviors
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: systems that handicap them in the first place, refuse to
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: support or create community amongst each other, severely damage the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: women in their lives who try to care for them
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: and attack women online for not doing the work for them,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: and replies to tweets like the one below.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: Lol.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: And it's worth noting that a lot of men agreed
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: with her okay, like it's very easy, doesn't matter for people.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who cares like that? How does this How does
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: this woman know anything about what she's say Like she
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: just assumes that men are just like beating up their
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: girlfriends and like calling women cunts online, like instead of
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: like forming safe, men can't form spaces like women invade
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: them all the time.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Let's finish what she Let's see what she the rest
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: she has to say, I sent you a file that
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: I'd like to play after we're done.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, if mind the men that are truly masculine, that
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: are truly healed, that like have it together versus those
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: that so truly do not. But this guy quot tweeted
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: her and he said, I was raised with a pretty
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: traditional idea of mass me.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, but wait, wait a second. If they're truly healed,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: truly masculine, and truly with it, shouldn't the men who
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: are already over the bridge be helping the men who
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: aren't not mocking them, because the thing is that what's
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: really interesting is she talks about how the ideal here
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: is that men help men, men create this community, and
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: then she she praises these men who are masculine and
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: healed and with it, and the way that she differentiates
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: them is that they're mocking and belittling the men that
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: she says aren't healed. Well, where is the community? Like,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: shouldn't buy your own estimation, Henna Cock. Shouldn't these men
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: be helping the men who are broken in order to
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: be truly good men? Shouldn't they be creating this community
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: of healing instead of belittling?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: I think that's asking too much. Well, obviously they don't
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: want to address anything. They just want to complain. They
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: just want to tea time yeah.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: Into a problem. They want men to be lonely, even
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: if it means that women are lonely.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, uh okay, I mean I'll play some of
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: this for the next section.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: Let's finish. Let's let's finish this timecode and then play
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: what I sent you. I think that's okay, all right, yeah,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: that's fine, okay.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: And taking responsibility for yourself, your mental and physical health,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: the wellbeing of your loved ones. All I see from
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: the modern manisphere is victimization and grievance pedal.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: So in Cameron's world, never get taken care of by
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: their loved ones.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay the women, But the women don't. Women
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have to expend the emotional labor in order to
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: take care of No, but that's the standard.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: Okay. So the standard is, as Hannah says, that men
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: be the leaders. Men be strong, they take care of
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: their loved ones. They don't expect care from their loved ones.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: All right, Hannah, get on your knees and submit. You
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: want that kind of man. You be the kind of
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: woman that that man deserves. A woman who zips it
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: and listens to his leadership, a woman who submits to
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: his protection, and a woman who understands that he is
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: her moral leader. Right, are you gonna be that kind
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: of woman? Because this is the big issue here, this
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: kind of Christian attitude of men are in charge, they sacrifice,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: they protect, they provide. Yeah, there was something said to
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: women they had a side in this, and that is
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: that you submit. Are you prepared to do that? Hannah?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: If you're not, you can shut the fuck up about
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: expecting men to uphold their side of the bargain while
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: you shit on yours.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm good, all right too, Yeah a little bit.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: Okay, your loved ones.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: All I see from the modern manisphere is victimization and
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: grievance pedaling. And I think he's so absolutely correct. You know,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: I've been a mental health advocate for some time. I
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: obviously do care about men's mental health.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: But I also no.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: She doesn't. She doesn't even know what the absolute state
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: of mental health services are for men or women for
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: that for that matter.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: You have zero interest in this. Accepted deny it as
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: a problem.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, accept to deny it as a problem and call
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: it men playing the victim? Haha, how do you like that?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm accusing you of the thing that I'm doing.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: I need to creep back in frame, I think, Yeah,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: I think I'm there.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's ok. I creeping So I know that
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: we're running out of time. We got ten minutes. But
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: she does go into men's spaces a little bit.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: Need to do the foll Like you said, eight eight
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: pm your time. If you want to finish this up,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: I'll do it.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just freaking only seven, All right, let's keep
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: going a little bit longer.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: Cannot stand how corrosive the mentality is in that sector
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: for people to come in and think that their mental
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: health is an excuse for them to be a victim,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: or to have other people come in and take care
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: of them, or to be coddled like no, if your
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: mental health is still your responsibility.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Y wait? Wait what?
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: Oh? But your allegation of historical oppression gets your right
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: to be a victim. So if a man has a
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: right now a problem, he doesn't get the right to
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: be taken care of or regarded as a victim. But
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: because you allege that women way back when that you
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: were descended from were oppressed by men way back, when
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: you get to be a victim and you get to silence.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: What a bunch of motivated reasoning.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say something a lot naughtier, but
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: that turned out. Okay, all right, let's play some more.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: Yes, when you are an adult, okay.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: Just like if you're an adult and you break your arm,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: you have to do what you need to do to
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: get it fixed. The same is true when it comes
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: to men's mental health and the reality is not only
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: are they not doing the things that they need to
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: do to fix their mental health, especially like go to therapy,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: for the love of God often to meet.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: That one day she puts so much botox in her
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: fucking face that she can't move her mouth.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: She's like, you know, it's funny people like this.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: They they take so much of what we have in
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: our modern society for granted, Like why don't you just
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: go to the you know, the doctor store and get
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: it fixed. Like it's like it's a little unrealistic. Like
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: and again, these services are not a guarantee. It's like
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: take the take the I Feel Better pill and everything,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: you'll be fine.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: It's like, how do we know that even works?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: And again, the psychological industry is not friendly to men
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: and men's particular needs. Literally we have to talk to
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: people who have like a different approach because men have
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: their own way of healing. And Hannah Cox, because she
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't really care about this stuff, doesn't even know about that.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: She's like, we just need more male therapists. No, we
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: need more therapists that know how to work with men.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: They don't have to be men, you know, but they
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: should know how to work.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: With men, yes, do do those things.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: It's madness.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: And again, there were a lot of men who agree
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: with this, who pointed it out. There were men who
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: said that, you know, if men were really concerned about
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: men's mental health issues, then they would be talking about
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: the actual solutions that we need in order to address it,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: Like we need more male therapists. That is something that
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: you know if you work in mental health here there, Yeah.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: But what if men what if men trying to get
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: into therapy are like getting gate kept by women, Like
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: what if they're there? You know, because like what it's
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: like saying we need more male teachers, Well, what why
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: aren't men being hired as teachers? Like what's the attitude
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: about men? And don't blame patriarchy or toxic masculinity, because
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: it's women that are calling the shots, you know, or
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: at least they're involved in the process. So why is it?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: And what if what if a man has the balls
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: to go into therapy and say, you know what, I
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: don't like the way you guys are doing things.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do things a different way.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Just like several of the people that I've interviewed, you know,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Phil Mitchell, John Bailey, and I had a guy really
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: recently a seeger. They are all like, yeah, men's mental
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: health or the mental health industry is not good for men.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: It's it's probably exasperating their problems. So if you're just
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: gonna sit here and say just go to the thing
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: that fixes it, Go get fixed.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Just go, it's like, you don't know if that even works.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: You're just saying, well, you didn't go to the thing
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: that fixes it, so you're working.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not working for women. It's not even working
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: for women.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: Like if they're on SSRIs all the time and they're like,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like cutting them some shit, like maybe that
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't work for women or men. Maybe there's something wrong
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: with it. No, no, no, no, no. Men are playing
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: the victim online and they're harassing and attacking women with
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: their words.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: So we need censorship. Okay, that's the okay's.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: We need to monitor their spaces essentially.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: Okay, clearly enough male therapists out there.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: I do think it's very important for men to have
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: access to male therapists, just like for me as a woman,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: it's important to have access to female gynecologists. Okay, there's
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: just some things you want to see the same gender.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: For but we don't talk about those.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? Like she didn't say female therapists, she
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: said female gynecologists. It's almost like men's mental health is
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: uniquely like mental health itself is uniquely male.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know, just just I just want to finish
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: this freaking thing. Was it still.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: We're gonna get into.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: The spaces person?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: The Effie boy Scouts was no longer allowed to be
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: male exclusive because women didn't like the exclusivity, But the
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: Girl Scouts can continue to be girl Scouts. Women don't
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: get to shift any blame on the state of men's
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: mental health onto men. Screwgee, sincerely. Another person said men
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: had star wars, women invaded. Men had sci fi, women invaded.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: Men had video games, women in. Men had D and D.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: Women invaded, men had comics, women invaded. Men had men's
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: only clubs. Women invaded. The only thing men have anymore
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: is either solitary or you fuss at us for it.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: And first and foremost, I would just.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: Say, I'm pretty sure women are the ones who are.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: Her attitude is unbelievable. I can't fucking stand it. She's
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: like triumphalist about this, good lord, Like, how does she
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: have a male partner.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: She treats conversations like UNO, like guys put all their
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: stuff out there, and she's just like, you know, reverse
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: pick four.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: Or whatever, like like udo reverse card.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: Women have it worse because she's basically saying women's spaces
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: are being invaded because you know, bathrooms and all that
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: and like women's sports. But that's what she's saying.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: Yes, all right, let's keep going.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: Then all right, let me go back to that. We
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: men are joining women's fucking you know, like knitting clubs.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: They're not doing that.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: So she literally says that men are are trans women
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: are in women's bathroom.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Doesn't she doesn't say that explicitly.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: She because she doesn't want to get hit She.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: Doesn't want to get hit by Yeah, she doesn't. By
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: the by, the.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: Truth is the men's and men's space is being invaded.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: Does it ever come up again in the time.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Codes A little bit?
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like she made a little bit.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: Women are the ones who are mostly space invaded by men.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: No, you're not.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: No, you're not invited by whom.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: Even a woman recently even forced a gay resort to
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: let her in for what God only knows presumably does
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: shlick to the men in the resort with the frick
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: why would you.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Anyway, we covered that one. There was like a resort
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: that was only for men. Basically, anytime, anytime, for any reason,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: men say we're gonna make we're gonna have this thing.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: And by the way, the guy complaining about Star Wars
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: and video games one hundred percent right, but not because
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: men were saying these things are exclusive. It wasn't even
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: that women were enjoying them. It was that there were
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: women who came in and they were like, you know,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I like this place, but I think you need to
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: change everything about it, and I'm just gonna you know what, Actually,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna burn it all down like they have.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Literally there are videos because I cover this on my channel,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: there are videos of these activists that are like, we
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: have to burn.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: This down because it makes us uncomfortable.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: And that was up a space that men spent billions
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: of dollars into to like, you know, make it into
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: the gigantic industry that it is specifically talking about video games,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: but it applies to everything, like all of it's been
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: changed and feminized, and you're not allowed to point it
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: out because that's blaming women. And of course that you know,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: again Hanna Cock doesn't think that that counts, because that's
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: something that she gets to is that like video games
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: are not for men, it's for children or something like that,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: which is really think it's.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: An Alex Syche thing.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: But here rein dead.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she does bring up Alex P. Sykee. That's that's
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: a surprise that he.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: Would bellow a fellow traveler. Okay, let's let's keep going.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: Let's let's finish the spaces and then we'll I'll show
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: the show the video.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: It's been like a whole like talking point on the
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: right for some time. But in all seriousness, I would also.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: Point out that we just talk about like women in tradition,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: you're now men for trans women.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, men are to blame for trans women.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah not not not the liberal women who embolden them. No,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: it's trying. It's men who had absolutely fucking nothing to
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: do with any of it.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. And again we're talking about what point zero
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: five percent of the population, but that means men invading
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: women's spaces.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: Now, she's just using that like whatever.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter when it comes to the context of relationships.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: Women are not upset about that because I don't think
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: women hate men in the same way that a lot
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: of men seem to hate Wait.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait. Women are not upset
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: at trans women going into their spaces because liberal women
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: are emboldening them, Like, what is this convoluted nonsense?
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Uh? Let me read that again, So it says I
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: would also point out that when we do talk about
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: men in traditionally female spaces when it comes to the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: context of relationships, women are not upset about that because
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think women hate men in the same way
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: that a lot of men seem to hate women.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: They don't like. Honestly, statistically, men do not hate women
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: in the same way that women hate men. Like that
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: it about five percent of men have any kind of
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: toxic sexism towards women, about seven point five percent of
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: women of toxic sexism towards men. I think, I think
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: that's probably a low ball number, but whatever, It is
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: actually a little heartening to know that women like this
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: are in an extreme minority, except they seem to be
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: incredibly vocal on the Internet. But regardless, She's this is bullshit, Okay,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: Toxic sexism is a problem among women more than men.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: And what was the other thing I was gonna say,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: why it's completely dishonest to blame the whole trans issue
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: on men and not liberal women, Like, yeah, okay, is
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: this the end of what?
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: One more thing?
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: One more thing?
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: That's a month to go?
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: He does it literally just out of love, but like,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: that's not something that would upset me, okay. Rfa Choose,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite Twitter accounts, responded to all this
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: and said, you're still allowed to watch sci fi, play
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: video games, and read comics with your exclusively male friend groups.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: Male spaces haven't been invaded because somewhere some woman is
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: reading Dune.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: Ah you don't. All right, that's it. How long have
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: we fought this fucking fight? It was more than just
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: women being able to read. Already existing material suddenly had
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: had to be reworked for their sensibilities. Now the material
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: no longer exists in the form that it did. It's
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: like saying that, oh, you know, women went into the
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: went into your men only buffet, and they took out
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: all of the food that you had before and they
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: replaced it with lettuce and glass noodles. Right, it's all
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: lettuce and glass noodles. But you no, how are you
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: harmed by that? You got rid of all of the
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: fish and chips, all the burgers, everything. They replaced it
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: with lettuce and glass noodles. But really, you can still
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: eat at this buffet. You can still enjoy eating at
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: this buffet. It's fundamentally different. You can't enjoy the same
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: things because they are gone. They're not corrupted, and they
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: are crap, and they're not just crap on the level
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: of bringing in DEEI like bringing in woke crap and
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: black rock and all the diversity and shit. They are
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: crap in that you guys declare against merit itself. Yeah.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: And also, women like you, Hannah Cox, do not take criticism,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: and your fellow travelers do not take criticism. You don't
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: know how to use criticism to improve yourselves. So all
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: of these women who didn't just get into the audiences
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: of Dune, where the women always watched Dune idiot, they
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: always watched Star Wars idiot. Women were always part of
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: the audiences. The differences a certain subcategory of women who
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: are so fragile and incapable of taking criticism that they
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: do not develop any kind of merit got in there
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: and shot their tumblr fan fiction all over these properties, right,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: and now men can't enjoy what they enjoyed. Just because
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: you say it's a buffet doesn't mean it was the same.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: It's the same damn food. The thing is still open
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's the same damn food.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, no it is it is. Let me see,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: here we go, so she says, she does go into
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: like how video games are actually, uh well, let me play.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: Like, just because women are sometimes interested in traditionally male
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 4: interests doesn't mean that your spaces are being invaded. In fact,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: most of these things that men are listing are very
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: solitary hobbies, if you can even call them hobbies, right, Like,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: these are loser activities. You're sitting in your basement and
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: playing video games or watching sci fi, and you're mad
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: that somewhere some woman is also doing that.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: That's not this is complete dishonesty. They're not mad some
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: woman is enjoying their solitary hobbies somewhere. They're mad that
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: women like you, who are terrified of criticism, terrified of
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: any kind of expectation or being held to any kind
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: of standard, slid their way into their media and fucked
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: everything because they are fucking failures and losers and they
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: do not know how to write or create stories or
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: write characters or anything. And they don't know how because
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: they cannot tolerate criticism, just like you can't tolerate criticism, Hannah.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: And that's what this entire video is about. You could
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: replace this with a stick figure of yourself saying, Hannah
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: hate being tall?
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Now yep, all.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: Right, I think that's basically it.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: She calls video games loser activities and that they're solitary,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: which is bullshit, because a lot of men form community
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: doing these things, Like that's what it's about. Like I
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: primarily when I game, I like the game with people
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: with friends.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: That's like you get the most joy out of it.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: So it's it is inherently community oriented.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: And yet women like this are going in and they're saying,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't like any of this stuff. Can
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: we just change all of it? So, like, who is
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: the invader here? Who's the one ruining everybody's fun? So
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: if you let me open up your The funny thing.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: Is is that, like women were always part of these fandoms,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: It wasn't until the tumbling arenas spilled into the writer's
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: room that people had a problem, and that's what's being
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: called out that fundamentally, they took away the old chefs
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: that made the ship that every the food that everybody liked,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: and they brought in the new chefs who create crap
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: shit on a plate and say, hey, this is this
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: is this is moose enjoy.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, all right, So let's say, Okay, I want
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: to look at some of the comments under her video
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: and the I want to go ahead.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, should we not show the video of.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got it ready, I got it ready,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: I got it ready. Do you want me to show
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: the video after? Because I wanted to tell you guys
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: about some of the comments. I also wanted to tell
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: you later on in this video, she brings up this guy.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: He does a whole thing. I think this could be
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: its own video.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: This one here.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: He basically just shits on men for being men, for like,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: you know, the remainder like this guy's white dudes for
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Harris is what I think. He's okay, But any's the.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: Problem with shitting on men. If you're going to appeal
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: to the idea that men are the leaders or the
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: strong ones in ear et cetera. Then you need to
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: accept that that's their identity and it's not women's identity.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, so you.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: You can't use that identity to shit on men and
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: then discard it when it's not convenient for you. So
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: you want to show this or did you want to
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: look at the comments underneath her video?
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: I want to show I'm not gonna play this video.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: We could maybe do this, This could be a video. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: but I wanted to tell you guys to comment. So
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: here are the comments from people. I think it's mostly men.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: First one. As a man, all I can say is
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: leave me alone. But I mean that's that's it. That's
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: basically saying no, which is of course not allowed. As
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: a single man, I can tell you I don't need
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: a relationship with a woman to feel loved. Most women
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: don't give a damn about a man's feelings. Like yourself,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Single doesn't mean lonely. We are lonely by choice because
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: we want peace. A man will give up his happiness
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: for his family. A woman will give up her family
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: for her happiness. Women like this annoy me. What are
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: you babbling about? Speaking on something you've never experienced as
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: if you know what you're talking about is funny as hell.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: Let's see, Yeah, she's getting dragged. She's getting dragged. I
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: can't look at the like dislike ratio. But here's another one.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Let me see. I can, for the life of me
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: understand why you thought comparing modern men to former slaveholders
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: was an apt or constructive analogy. Your understanding of the
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: women invading male spaces argument is also so out of
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: touch it's baffling that you'd even include it. You act
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: as though guys don't like it when women want to
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: join in their activities, But that's just demonstrably untrue, which
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: I mean obviously, like a woman who enjoys the same
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: thing a man enjoys as it exists is a good thing.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: But a woman who wants to change everything is a
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: problem because she doesn't actually like the thing that she's
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: participating in. And when they pretend that they do and
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: they actually don't, it's even more infuriating because they're being
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: blatant in their dishonesty. Anyway, Yeah, you then turn around
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: and describe them as loser activities where you play video
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: games alone in your basement. What are you? Sixty? Games
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: are highly social experiences these days, they're played by everyone,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: even women, and their played everywhere. Yeah, like literally the
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: biggest entertainment industry in all of history is video games,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: like financially and in terms of its scale. Sorry, you know,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: but that's like it's just true anyway. The argument that
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: is made isn't women play game? Woman bad? It's frustration
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: with certain women who come into a hobby, claim to
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: love it, and then proceed to denounce everything about that
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: hobby that came before as problematic, if not evil. Tiel Deer,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: if you want good advice about and two men, go
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: watch the Authentic Observer. I guess that's another channel. So yeah,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, and they're saying, you know that, they're calling
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: her a liar and all this other stuff. So at
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: least the comments give me some again.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: I got you the screenshot. Go take a look. Although
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: I see that her subs are increasing exponentially of course,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: screenshot of what Yeah, I got our screenshot of the
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: ratio of how she got ratio?
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, okay, hold up, throw it up there,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: let me throw it up there. Yeah, I gotta share
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: the screen too, so help.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at that.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there it goes. That's the ratio.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: Up one point. And uh, you know, if you're watching this,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: you might want to voice your opinion as well.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I put a link to the video in the description,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: so if you want to, like give her your two cents.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: It looks like she's getting dragged in the comments because again,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: the thing is is she's like, men should have their
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: own things and their own spaces, and they should be
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: doing another thing. But I'm going to determine which of
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: those things is actually deserving of, like you know, of
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: my approval. So she's basically saying, I will decide what
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: is appropriate for you to do with your spare time, men,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: how you socialize. So she's trying to define men basically
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: as usual. That's what they always do. So you want
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: me play that video for you know? Yeah?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: Sure? Are we done with the time codes in her screen?
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: Well? Yeah we could, we could be done with no.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: No, how much more is there?
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, Allison, it's not like this is the the
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: as usual. These these videos are they look like they're
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: an ocean, but they're a puddle in terms of their depth.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: They are. It's a it's an ocean of water, but
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: a puddle of depth. And it's always the same arguments,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: so like, yeah, we're not I'm sorry, but we're not
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: gonna get a pearl of wisdom out of this. We're
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: just gonna find corn and shit and that's the best
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: we can do. But we can respond to the other
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: parts of the video like later, which is basically responding
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: to a whole different person that she, you know, because
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: Hannah Cocks doesn't even have the ability to come up
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: with her own unique arguments.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: She'll just lean on other people.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: Unless you want to hear her talk about Alex sych
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: but I think you already know it's the same thing
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: that he said about external locus of control and all that.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: So as fellow travelers, we're not gonna get anything new
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: out of this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is what I have to say about
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: external locus of control. Sometimes it's a lie you tell yourself.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to use an example. There's a lot
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: of alcoholics who say that they could quit any time.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: That's assuming an internal locus of control in order to
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: excuse the fact that you have an external locus of control.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: So you just.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: Pretend like everything is within your power, so you don't
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: can engage in a form of denihalism about the things
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: that aren't or the things that you're not addressing. So
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: Alex Syche is full of shit. He is one of
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: those people who has no insight. Yep, my opinion.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: All right, oh yeah, for sure, you want to watch.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he's I think he's just engaging a containment.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: I think that most of this backlash coming from uh
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: supposed you know, MRA types or MRA adjacent people or
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: dating coaches or Hannah Cox's or whatever. I think most
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: of this stuff is like a kind of containment. Like
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: all the men's write talking points, they're like getting out
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: into the They're gutting out into the ether. I heard
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: a guy I was in line at like Walmart, and
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: there was a guy in front of me, and he
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: said the word miss injury. Something has to be done
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: because these talking points can't get out. And I think
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. Hannah Cox's is engaging in containment.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Trigonometry engages in containment. Laurence Southern is engaging in containment.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: Fucking you know, it's all over.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: The disappeared because of the whole We Russian collision thing.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I haven't seen her in a while,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: but but the last time she made a video. It
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: was essentially containment. Red piel Bros Are scary. They're just
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: as bad as the opposite. I mean, fucking Natty is
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: doing it like it's everywhere, it's and I'm like, let
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, let it all out. Let's let it
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: all out. Whatever happens happens. It's either that or maybe
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: you risk the point of men just like you know what,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: make it like?
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: You know, So, how's this for a thought? Okay, all right,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: since women like Hanna Coox don't want to take blame,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: I'll take blame for everything on behalf of women. I'll
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: take it off. Go ahead, just blame me, Just blame me.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: So I am to blame.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it off.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: It is also containment, Chris Williamson. Containment all of these
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: guys that talk about men's issues, but they're doing it
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: in this kind of like you know, feminism of the
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: past and and and patriarchy of the of the past,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: or in that other country over there, whatever whoever it is.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: They're all engaging containment, especially if they know, if they
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: know the talking points are true, and they know these
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: phenomenons are real, and they know that these are issues
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: that could be. But they're so afraid, they're so afraid
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: of the truth getting out that I think because they
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: don't know what the consequences of it will be.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: And so and I I don't care. I'm okay.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: I think that we'll all be better off with the truth,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: no matter what. They'll be suffering. But maybe, But I mean,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: if we lie to ourselves, we're gonna suffer away.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: We're gonna all right, here's here's my deal. Okay, since
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: I've just watched however long of this woman just invading
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: responsibility and criticism, all right, all of the blame that
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: you want to heap or people are heaping on women,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: just heap it on me. And I want to see
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: what happens, Like, blame me, am, I yeah, I don't know,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: Like what will happen? Who knows? I want all men
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: listening to me to blame me. And I want to
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: see what happens when a woman is blamed like for everything,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: Like what's gonna happen? Like if you all blame me,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: I'll take the blame. I'll take Hannah Cox's blame, I'll
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: take Shira's blame. I'll take all the female dating strategies
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: blame all of it because these women are terrified off
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: this happening to them. I want it to happen to me.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: I want you all to blame me for this shit,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: and I want to see what happens as a result,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: because they're terrified. They think that you know, that means
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: that women are going to be put in chains, that
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: they are going to be back in the kitchen, that
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: they'll have their voice removed. Well, I want you to
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: do this, like if you're a man listening, blame me,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: Blame me for this shit. I want to see what happens.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: Blame as hard as you can.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 8: Mm hmmm.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: And Fan gave us another super rumbo rant that I
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: didn't get to someone to read it really quick for
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: a dollar, and he says, correct me if I'm wrong.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: But do Muslim communities have a male loneliness problem like
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: the West does? If not, I hope someone in her
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: comments brings that up. No, I think they do. I
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: think there is like something that like that's how you
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: create GI hottists, right, So it kind of depends on
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: the country. But like a lot of these guys that
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: are like suicide bombers and g hittists are lonely men.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: They don't have women. That's why they're promised women as
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: a reward. So all right, want me to play that video? Oh, Alston,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: you're muted for some reason. I can't hear you.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: Alison, Sorry, I was muted. If you're like, we're done,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: there's nothing more to this, shallow can play this. Yeah,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: let's play it. So she's essentially said that, well, it's
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: men like men. Women are not to blame the fact
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: that men don't have spaces to address their issues. M hmm, well,
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: actually you are directly to blame for the fact that
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: feminism is definitely directly to blame for the fact that
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: men don't have spaces to address their own issues.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, and we have this video.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: This is kind of a throwback.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 3: It brought out. It needs to be remembered.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: It does, it does, yeah for sure. Okay, so oh
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: Richard Vierre gave us a five.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: Wait this is the wrong video, damn it.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Just give me.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: Oh for God's sake, But my thing just makes these
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 3: like little clips. I don't want it to, but it
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: keeps doing this. I used Wonder share film, Maura and
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: crazy tiny little clip.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: Let me let me read the super chowd real quick,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: your Richard Berre five dollars, Allison, would it be worth
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: it to travel to the United States just to jello
• 1:59:05
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• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: classic Richard Bierre.
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• 1:59:14
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  Speaker 8: These are feminists shutting down men's issues events. This tweet
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 8: by Rova bt W says, simply men's mental health matters.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 3: Denisia Carter says in response, if men's mental health matter
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: to men, they be creating safe spaces for themselves and
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: each other. Instead, they perpetuate the very behaviors that have
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: handicapped them in the first place, sparely damaging the women
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 3: in their lives who tried to care for them. Women
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 3: hating attack women online for not doing the work for them.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 3: Im applies to tweets like the one below. Here you
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: eve an answer that isn't what I've presented. Who my
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: friends committed suicide? And I want the piece of understanding
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 3: why that happens, the idea.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 5: People are inherently.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: There.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: You go, So answer for that, Hannah Cox.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was answer for it.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: I'll answer for it though, because you won't. So you
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: know what I'm trying to get at is all you
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: guys out there who these women fear, and that's why
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 3: they refuse to take responsibility. Well, I'll take responsibility. Come
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: at me, do your worst. I take responsibility. I take
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: responsibility for it all. Like I'm just so tired of
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: this ship. I'm tired of women like this being so
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 3: freaking terrified of taking responsibility, stepping up and saying, hey,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: maybe we can be better. I'll take it. I'll take
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 3: it all. I'll even take Hannah Coxes, do your worst,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: all right, but I won't take any more of her face.
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  Speaker 9: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 9: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 9: deal with, especially if you have liked especially if you
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 9: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 9: On top of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked.