Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Jes Staley And The Transcripts From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 7) (9/1/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're going to pick up
- 0:06Speaker 1: where we left off with Jeff Staley and his transcript
- 0:10Speaker 1: from his trip to Congress. Mr. Emmer, Mr. Staley, during
- 0:13Speaker 1: the previous hour you were asked if you had visited
- 0:16Speaker 1: Little St. James, is that right? Answer, yes. Question, you
- 0:20Speaker 1: were also asked if you had visited Great St. James, correct? Answer, correct. Question,
- 0:26Speaker 1: and you were asked... About Great St. James, you answered
- 0:29Speaker 1: in the affirmative. Was that the correct testimony? Answer, no,
- 0:33Speaker 1: I misspoke. I've never visited Great St. James. Emmer, thank you.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Question by Ms. Brignac. Mr. Staley, you mentioned that you
- 0:41Speaker 1: frequently visited Mr. Epstein's Manhattan townhouse at least dozens of times.
- 0:46Speaker 1: For what purpose did you attend these meetings? Answer, generally,
- 0:50Speaker 1: it would be on my way home. It would be
- 0:52Speaker 1: to sit and talk with Epstein about what was going
- 0:54Speaker 1: on both economically, politically, financial world, talked about what I
- 0:58Speaker 1: was doing at the bank, talked about people that he
- 1:01Speaker 1: introduced me to as part of his network. So general
- 1:04Speaker 1: conversation around business and around the network that he had,
- 1:07Speaker 1: and it was of interest to me. Question, did your
- 1:10Speaker 1: meetings always take place at the Manhattan townhome? Answer, yes. Question, why? Answer,
- 1:16Speaker 1: he used his dining room there as an office. So
- 1:18Speaker 1: oftentimes when I would go there, there would be other
- 1:21Speaker 1: people there meeting with him. So that was generally where
- 1:24Speaker 1: he met people. Question, can you list who else was
- 1:27Speaker 1: at the attendance in these meetings? Answer, well, not with me,
- 1:31Speaker 1: but that we would have crossed. Question, yes. Answer, people
- 1:36Speaker 1: like Larry Summers, people like Sergey Brin, people like Ehud Barak,
- 1:40Speaker 1: that type of people. Question, to clarify, were these people
- 1:44Speaker 1: at the meeting or you would discuss them at the meetings? Answer,
- 1:48Speaker 1: we would cross. So I would come and Ehud Barak
- 1:52Speaker 1: would be talking with Epstein. I would show up. we
- 1:55Speaker 1: would sort of overlap for a bit of time, then
- 1:57Speaker 1: Ehud Barak would leave. It would be more of a
- 2:00Speaker 1: type of an engagement. Question, did anyone else attend the
- 2:04Speaker 1: meetings with you and Epstein? Answer, no. Question, did you
- 2:08Speaker 1: ever see any young women around the Manhattan townhouse? Answer, no,
- 2:12Speaker 1: I did not. Question, did you ever see his assistants
- 2:15Speaker 1: around the Manhattan townhouse? Answer, yes. Question, who? Answer, Leslie
- 2:20Speaker 1: Groff mostly, Sarah Kellen, redacted. Yeah, those would be the
- 2:24Speaker 1: principal ones. Question, did you ever attend a party at
- 2:27Speaker 1: his Manhattan townhouse? Answer, a party? No. I don't believe. No,
- 2:31Speaker 1: I never attended a party there. Question, did you ever
- 2:34Speaker 1: have a drink at his Manhattan townhouse? Answer, yeah, sometimes.
- 2:38Speaker 1: He would serve me a glass of wine. Question, did
- 2:41Speaker 1: you ever become intoxicated to the point where you would
- 2:43Speaker 1: likely not remember things that happened today? Answer, no. Question,
- 2:48Speaker 1: before or during or after a meeting with Mr. Epstein,
- 2:51Speaker 1: were you ever introduced to young women or girls? Answer, no. Question,
- 2:56Speaker 1: I'm entering Majority Exhibit 6 into the record. This is
- 2:59Speaker 1: an email from Leslie Groff to Mr. Epstein on September 23, 2014,
- 3:02Speaker 1: with bait stamp EFTA 00362214. Question, by Ms. Brignac, and
- 3:11Speaker 1: we'll go off the record so you can review. They
- 3:13Speaker 1: come back on. Question, what were you meeting with Mr.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Epstein about on September 23, 2014? Answer, I don't recall
- 3:21Speaker 1: what the meeting was about. Seemed like I was just
- 3:23Speaker 1: stopping by to say hi. Question, did any girls join
- 3:27Speaker 1: you during a conversation with Mr. Epstein? Answer, no. Question,
- 3:31Speaker 1: did you see any girls before or after saying hello
- 3:34Speaker 1: to Mr. Epstein? Answer, no, I did not. Question, do
- 3:38Speaker 1: you know who the BBB girls are? Answer, no, I don't. Question,
- 3:43Speaker 1: who is Barbro and Bomb? Answer, I don't know. Question,
- 3:48Speaker 1: has Redacted ever attended a meeting with you and Mr. Epstein? Answer,
- 3:51Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. Question, we do have
- 3:54Speaker 1: DOJ documents that reflect redacted did attend a meeting with
- 3:58Speaker 1: you and Mr. Epstein. Was there ever a meeting, do
- 4:02Speaker 1: you recall, where a young woman attended with you and Mr. Epstein? Answer,
- 4:06Speaker 1: I don't know. Redacted, so I don't recall that, no. Question,
- 4:11Speaker 1: I'll now ask names that have been recorded in the
- 4:14Speaker 1: press as attending Mr. Epstein's townhouse meetings. Can you confirm
- 4:18Speaker 1: whether you were present for another individual's meeting with a
- 4:22Speaker 1: yes or no? Answer, what individual? Question, I'm going to
- 4:25Speaker 1: give you a list of names. And just give me
- 4:28Speaker 1: a yes or no if you ever attended a meeting
- 4:30Speaker 1: with this individual. Question, Bill Gates. Answer, yes. Steve Bannon. Answer, no. Question,
- 4:38Speaker 1: Woody Allen. Answer, we crossed. Question, President Bill Clinton. Answer, no.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Noam Chomsky. Answer, I don't know. Tom Pritzker. Answer, yes.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Reid Hoffman. Answer, no. Mort Zuckerman. Answer, yes. Dick Cavett,
- 4:53Speaker 1: answer no. Ehud Barak, answer yes. Leon Black, answer yes. Question,
- 4:59Speaker 1: did any of the individuals you just listed engage in
- 5:02Speaker 1: sexual misconduct during these visits that you said yes to?
- 5:06Speaker 1: Answer no. Question, can you describe the circumstances under which
- 5:10Speaker 1: you met Bill Gates? Answer, I met Bill Gates a
- 5:14Speaker 1: couple of times in Seattle when I was there on
- 5:16Speaker 1: business trips. I met him at a conference I believe
- 5:19Speaker 1: was hosted by Microsoft. That's my recollection of when I
- 5:22Speaker 1: met him. Question, who introduced you to Mr. Gates? Answer,
- 5:26Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Question, was he a client of Mr. Epstein? Answer,
- 5:30Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so. Question, did Mr.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Epstein ever refer to Bill Gates as a client of J.P. Morgan? Answer,
- 5:38Speaker 1: I think Bill Gates was already a client of J.P. Morgan.
- 5:41Speaker 1: My recollection, but I'm not sure. Question, were you involved
- 5:45Speaker 1: in Mr. Epstein's pitch to J.P. Morgan regarding the donor
- 5:48Speaker 1: advised fund for the bill and Melinda Gates Foundation? Answer, yes. Question,
- 5:53Speaker 1: what was your role? Answer, I was just aware of it.
- 5:56Speaker 1: I think it was being handled by Mary Erdos. Question,
- 6:00Speaker 1: what was this fund? Answer, I think the idea was
- 6:03Speaker 1: to create a fund or charity that where the private
- 6:06Speaker 1: bank would approach high net worth individuals to participate in
- 6:09Speaker 1: the fund, and Bill Gates would be a major sponsor
- 6:12Speaker 1: of it. Question, was Mr. Epstein compensated by his work
- 6:16Speaker 1: on this deal? Answer, not by J.P. Morgan. Question, Was
- 6:20Speaker 1: he compensated by anyone? Answer, I don't know. The deal
- 6:23Speaker 1: never happened, so? Question, why did the deal never happen? Answer,
- 6:27Speaker 1: I just think it never came together as a concept. Question,
- 6:30Speaker 1: how did you meet Tom Pritzker? Answer, I think I
- 6:33Speaker 1: just met Tom Pritzker. He's a client of the bank. Question,
- 6:37Speaker 1: do you recall what you met with him or where
- 6:39Speaker 1: you met with him about Mr. Epstein? Answer again, I'm
- 6:42Speaker 1: not sure I met with Tom and with Epstein. My
- 6:45Speaker 1: recollection is I met with Tom Pritzker at their headquarters. Question,
- 6:49Speaker 1: did you work with Mr. Epstein on any deal for Mr. Pritzker? Answer,
- 6:52Speaker 1: I don't think so, no. Question, the Wall Street Journal
- 6:55Speaker 1: has reported in March of 2026 that you divulged confidential
- 6:59Speaker 1: information to Mr. Epstein regarding financial dealings that JPMorgan Chase
- 7:04Speaker 1: was working on. What information did you divulge? Answer, what year? Question,
- 7:09Speaker 1: this was reported in 2026, but the deal that they
- 7:13Speaker 1: found was in 2008. Question, do you know which deal
- 7:17Speaker 1: they're talking about? Or answer, excuse me, question a deal
- 7:20Speaker 1: for the Pritzker family? Answer, no, I don't recall what
- 7:23Speaker 1: the deal was. Question, would it be accurate to say
- 7:26Speaker 1: that you divulge bank communication with Federal Reserve on how
- 7:29Speaker 1: to stabilize the financial system? Answer, yeah. Question, did you
- 7:34Speaker 1: divulge any other market moving information to Mr. Epstein? Answer,
- 7:38Speaker 1: ask the question again, sorry. Question, did you divulge any
- 7:43Speaker 1: other market moving information to Mr. Epstein? Answer, I don't
- 7:47Speaker 1: think so, no. Question, would it be accurate to say
- 7:50Speaker 1: you also divulged that JP Morgan was inundated by $ 44
- 7:55Speaker 1: billion in new assets within two weeks? Answer, that's possible, yes. Question,
- 8:01Speaker 1: so is there any other information that you divulged to Mr. Epstein? Answer,
- 8:05Speaker 1: it was a long time ago that you're talking about,
- 8:07Speaker 1: so I apologize. I can't answer it. Question, I would
- 8:10Speaker 1: still like an answer to the question, though. Is there
- 8:13Speaker 1: any other information that you divulged? Answer, that I recall, no. Question.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Did you discuss JP Morgan salaries with Mr. Epstein? Answer.
- 8:22Speaker 1: I discussed my salary with Mr. Epstein, yes. Question. Did
- 8:26Speaker 1: you understand at the time that sharing the information was
- 8:30Speaker 1: a violation of your fiduciary duties to the bank? Answer. No. Question.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Why did you share information to Mr. Epstein? Answer. To
- 8:38Speaker 1: get his thoughts and ideas about it. Question. Did Mr.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Epstein benefit from any information that you divulged? Answer. No.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Not that I'm aware of. Question. How did you meet
- 8:47Speaker 1: Mort Zuckerman? Answer. I think I met him through Jeffrey Epstein. Question.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Why did he introduce you to Mort Zuckerman? Answer. I
- 8:55Speaker 1: think he was just thinking of doing, of starting a
- 8:57Speaker 1: publication with Mort Zuckerman. And I think we just crossed. Question.
- 9:01Speaker 1: How did you meet Ehud Barak? Answer. I met Ehud
- 9:03Speaker 1: Barak at Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse. And then we met in Israel.
- 9:08Speaker 1: We also may have met in Davos. Question. Did you
- 9:11Speaker 1: form a relationship with Mr. Barak after the introduction? Answer. No.
- 9:16Speaker 1: More of when he and I met in Israel, we
- 9:18Speaker 1: developed a relationship, but no. Yeah, I didn't stay in
- 9:21Speaker 1: regular contact with him or something like that. Question, have
- 9:24Speaker 1: you ever flown on Mr. Epstein's private aircraft? Answer, yes. Question,
- 9:29Speaker 1: how many times? Answer, I think I flew on the
- 9:32Speaker 1: 727 once. I think I flew on the Gulfstream plane
- 9:34Speaker 1: once or twice. Question, what were the occasions for this travel? Answer,
- 9:40Speaker 1: I think that once we were going to his island
- 9:42Speaker 1: with my family. I believe once going to Miami. Answer,
- 9:45Speaker 1: my family. answer the 727 flight question yeah you said
- 9:54Speaker 1: on one occasion i flew alone so who else was
- 9:57Speaker 1: present on those flights answer my family question how many
- 10:01Speaker 1: trips was your family present with you on the travel
- 10:04Speaker 1: answer the whole family just one yeah just one question
- 10:07Speaker 1: were members of your family present on other travels answer
- 10:10Speaker 1: no i think it was just the one travel to
- 10:12Speaker 1: the virgin islands question why did they attend this trip
- 10:16Speaker 1: answer i think my family went i think the dubins
- 10:19Speaker 1: went We were invited by Epstein to go to his island,
- 10:22Speaker 1: so my family and I went for a couple of days. Question,
- 10:25Speaker 1: this was in February of 2005, correct? Answer, I think
- 10:28Speaker 1: that's right. Question, did you ever witness young women or
- 10:31Speaker 1: girls traveling on Mr. Epstein's airplane? Answer, no, I did not. Question,
- 10:36Speaker 1: did you ever witness sexual activity on the plane? Answer, no. Question,
- 10:41Speaker 1: has Mr. Epstein ever flown on a private plane of yours? Answer,
- 10:44Speaker 1: I've never owned a private plane. Question, have you ever
- 10:47Speaker 1: heard of sexual activity taking place? On Mr. Epstein's plane? Answer, no. Question,
- 10:52Speaker 1: in 2005, police in Palm Beach, Florida began investigating Mr.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Epstein for soliciting prostitution for minors. When did you first
- 11:00Speaker 1: become aware of that investigation? In 2005, 2006? Answer, when
- 11:05Speaker 1: it was printed in the Palm Beach Press. Question, when
- 11:08Speaker 1: would that exactly have been? Answer, I'm not exactly sure. 2005, 2006? Question,
- 11:14Speaker 1: was J.E. ever on a plane leased or operated by you? Answer, no. Question,
- 11:19Speaker 1: Was Jeffrey Epstein ever on a plane leased or operated
- 11:21Speaker 1: by you? Answer, I've never leased or operated an airplane. Question,
- 11:26Speaker 1: so you became aware of the investigation, you believe, sometime
- 11:29Speaker 1: in 2005, 2006, when it was published in the press.
- 11:33Speaker 1: What did you do next? Answer, I think, I believe,
- 11:36Speaker 1: I went to his office and asked him. And I
- 11:38Speaker 1: reported back to the bank that I went and asked
- 11:41Speaker 1: him and reported that he was shocked or he seemed
- 11:43Speaker 1: shocked and that he denied the ages. And I reported
- 11:46Speaker 1: that back in an email to the bank. Question, what
- 11:49Speaker 1: did you say that led you to find him credible
- 11:51Speaker 1: in the moment? Answer, I've known Epstein for a number
- 11:54Speaker 1: of years, and his reaction seemed to be genuine. But again,
- 11:57Speaker 1: I just reported what I heard from him and saw
- 12:00Speaker 1: to the bank so the bank had that. Question, and
- 12:03Speaker 1: who'd you report to in the bank? Answer, well, I
- 12:06Speaker 1: put it in an email, so I know it went
- 12:08Speaker 1: to Mary Erdos, but I have also, I may have
- 12:11Speaker 1: also reported it to Langford, who I believe was the
- 12:13Speaker 1: lawyer for the private bank at the time. Question, what
- 12:16Speaker 1: was their response? Answer, I think my recollection is the
- 12:21Speaker 1: bank had a group called the Rapid Response Team at Compliance,
- 12:24Speaker 1: and they were responsible for, I think, reviewing things like this,
- 12:27Speaker 1: and I believe the bank did review Epstein. Question, and
- 12:30Speaker 1: it published a report on this, correct? A Rapid Response Report? Answer,
- 12:34Speaker 1: I believe so. Question, there were internal discussions at this time.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Who all participated in these discussions? Answer, I think it
- 12:42Speaker 1: was members of the Rapid Response Team. I think it's
- 12:45Speaker 1: members from Legal, from Compliance. the people who ran the
- 12:49Speaker 1: banking group, but I was not part of those meetings. Question,
- 12:52Speaker 1: were you a part of any meetings? Answer, of the
- 12:55Speaker 1: rapid response team, not that I recall. All right, folks,
- 12:59Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here. And in the
- 13:00Speaker 1: next episode, dealing with the topic, we're going to pick
- 13:03Speaker 1: up where we left off. All the information that goes
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