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The RAF Fairford Terror Plot and FlyDubai Attempted Hijacking · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 1: evening grace America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Ever had a Valium hangover?
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Speaker 1: I had to take a couple of Valium yesterday for
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Speaker 1: an MRI, and I'm like swimming through the day. It's
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Speaker 1: like swimming. But I have a lot of prep here,
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Speaker 1: and I will endeavor to make it very interesting for
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Speaker 1: you because luckily some of it's Abdul El-Sayed. Now, yesterday
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Speaker 1: was easy. It was the Abdul El-Sayed day. If you
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Speaker 1: missed it, it's over at my YouTube channel. All of it,
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Speaker 1: 93 minutes of Abdul El-Sayed, and I encourage you to
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Speaker 1: go to get it. But this is the new clip
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Speaker 1: that surfaced today, cut number 36.
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Speaker 2: I remember I walked into one of these liquor stores.
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Speaker 2: It was a gas station, actually. And a guy saw
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Speaker 2: the name on my credit card, and he was like, oh,
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Speaker 2: your name's Abdurrahman. I was like, it is Abdurrahman, clearly.
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Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, are you Muslim? I was like,
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Speaker 2: my name is Abdurrahman. Literally, my name means worshiper of God,
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Speaker 2: the most merciful. You don't get any more. I was like,
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Speaker 2: my middle name's Muhammad. I mean, you can't get any
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Speaker 2: more Muslim than that, right?
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Speaker 1: I was like, yes.
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Speaker 2: And it was one of those sort of like condescending, like, well,
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Speaker 2: you're not Muslim enough kind of things. And he was like, brother,
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Speaker 2: your beard. I was like, he's like, you know, your
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Speaker 2: beard's not long enough. I was like, I was like, wait,
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Speaker 2: I think I got the wrong thing. I'd come up
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Speaker 2: with water. So I came back, like put my water back.
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Speaker 2: I came, came back with a, with a fifth.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, I actually wanted to buy this.
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Speaker 1: He's like, wait, what?
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Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, this is what I
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Speaker 2: came here for. And he was like, well, you can't
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Speaker 2: buy that.
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Speaker 4: I was like, you can't sell that.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 2: So I just threw it on the ground, walked out.
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Speaker 1: All right. Do we believe that? No. I don't believe that.
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Speaker 1: Do you believe that?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: I think he's a liar. I think it's identity politics.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it will play in Michigan. Now, ethnicity
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Speaker 1: is wonderful. Your background is wonderful. Tell everything you can about,
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Speaker 1: but then finish on, but I'm an American. We got
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Speaker 1: an example of that today. It's Hispanic Heritage Month, and
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Speaker 1: they had a big White House gathering. President Trump spoke
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Speaker 1: a lot. I'll play some of that later in the program,
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Speaker 1: but I want to lead with Secretary Rubio, who spoke
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Speaker 1: today at the White House Hispanic Heritage Month event, cut
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Speaker 1: number 35. Thank you, Mr.
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Speaker 6: President, for hosting this event. All I would say is,
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Speaker 6: Hispanic Americans, we are Americans. We love this country. And
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Speaker 6: we love it because so many of us either know
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Speaker 6: firsthand or through our parents or grandparents what life is
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Speaker 6: like in other countries. And so we know how special
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Speaker 6: this country is. It's the place that gave us freedom.
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Speaker 6: It's the place that gave us opportunity. It's the place
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Speaker 6: that's given our parents, our grandparents, and many of you
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Speaker 6: the chance not just to do well in life, but
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Speaker 6: to do the most important thing any of us ever want,
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Speaker 6: and that is to leave our children better off than ourselves.
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Speaker 6: That is what makes America special. That's why we love it.
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Speaker 6: That's why we're passionate about it. That is our heritage
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Speaker 6: in this country. We are proud to be Americans, and
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Speaker 6: I'm proud to be here and to serve under you, Mr.
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Speaker 4: President.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: So that's the high point. Now I want to tell
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Speaker 1: you about the real high point. Earlier today, 174 people
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Speaker 1: were on the equivalent of Flight 93. They were going
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Speaker 1: to die in an act of terrorism because an Omani
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Speaker 1: pilot on Fly Dubai, that's the airline, is going from
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Speaker 1: UAE or Dubai to Tel Aviv, regular route. And the
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Speaker 1: pilot is an Indian gentleman from the subcontinent, India, And
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Speaker 1: the co-pilot is an Omani, and they're locked in their fuselage.
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Speaker 1: They're locked up in the pilot control room. And the
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Speaker 1: Omani produces a knife, and he repeatedly stabs the Indian captain,
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Speaker 1: who doesn't die and doesn't give up. He gets up
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Speaker 1: and gets to the door, and he opens the door,
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Speaker 1: which is reinforced, and he yells, help. Now, there are
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Speaker 1: 174 Israelis on this plane. They happened to have had
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys who could handle the bad guy.
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Speaker 1: And then they happened to have a pilot and they
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Speaker 1: happened to have a doctor. They had two pilots, actually.
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Speaker 1: And they landed the plane. And I just got to say,
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Speaker 1: God is good. And don't try that with 174 Israelis
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Speaker 1: or with a captain who is the real deal. The
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Speaker 1: hand of God is still on that. Because the right
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Speaker 1: kind of stab by the Omani killer, would-be killer, could
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Speaker 1: have disabled the captain. And you put it into a nosedive.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's over Tel Aviv. They ended
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Speaker 1: up landing in Saudi Arabia. The back story of all
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Speaker 1: that is they landed in Saudi Arabia. And then planes
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Speaker 1: came and fetched them to Israel. Because while Saudi Arabia
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Speaker 1: is not an official member of the Abraham Accords, they
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Speaker 1: are in a cold peace with Israel. as the whole
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Speaker 1: region is. And Iran is going to go. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to talk about Iran with Danny Pletka in the next segment.
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Speaker 1: They're dying. They're losing. President Trump had this to say
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Speaker 1: on White House boarding of Air Force One yesterday gaggle
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Speaker 1: cut number eight at the AI gaggle cut number 18.
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Speaker 7: Iran, in your opinion, about to give up, about to concede.
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Speaker 8: Well, they're doing very poorly.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to give up yet.
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Speaker 1: They'll give up, but they're doing very poorly.
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Speaker 4: You know, we took.
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Speaker 8: More oil out of the Harmo Strait over the last
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Speaker 8: couple of days than at any point in history, including
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Speaker 8: long before we had the war to stop the nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 8: And this is to stop the nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 1: Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. I think he's right.
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to give up. Now, earlier today,
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Speaker 1: I was up early to do Fox and Friends with
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Speaker 1: Brian Kilmeade on the elections. I want to play that
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Speaker 1: hit for you because it's a great way to summarize
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Speaker 1: where I am on the election cut number 23. Here,
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Speaker 1: discuss this and put it in perspective.
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Speaker 9: Fox News contributor Hugh Hewitt.
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Speaker 1: So the polls are the polls.
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Speaker 9: But what do the numbers say about the policies that
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Speaker 9: could fuel an economy, Hugh?
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Brian. I'm glad you bring up focus on
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Speaker 1: the numbers. Four years ago, during the Biden midterms, inflation
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Speaker 1: was seven point seven percent. Today, it's three point four percent.
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Speaker 1: Four years ago, during the Biden midterms, groceries are growing
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Speaker 1: up 12 percent or more year over year. It is
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Speaker 1: now two point two percent under President Trump. Right now,
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Speaker 1: we know the gas at the gas at the pump
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Speaker 1: is four and a half bucks a gallon. Four years ago,
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Speaker 1: it went from $ 5 in June to $ 3. 80 in November,
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Speaker 1: the same arc that we're on now because President Trump
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Speaker 1: and the American military have won the Battle of Hormuz
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Speaker 1: and the oil is coming out. And what the Journal
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Speaker 1: focused on, the cost of housing, four years ago under
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, it was going up more than 5% a year.
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Speaker 1: It's down below 4% a year now and falling as
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Speaker 1: supply comes online. So every time the Democrats talk about
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Speaker 1: price at the pump, the Republicans have got to widen
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Speaker 1: the aperture, as President Trump does, and said, look at
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Speaker 1: what we've done in two years. Look at the Iowa
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Speaker 1: steel mill that he was talking about on Monday. We've
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Speaker 1: reshored manufacturing. We're at full employment. We're winning in Iran.
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Speaker 1: The oil is flowing. The overall picture is great. So
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Speaker 1: focus on the numbers, and the polls will follow, as
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Speaker 1: they did this morning, by the way, in the Washington Post.
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Speaker 1: It's a statistical tie in Michigan. Mike Rogers has caught Abdu'l-Sayed,
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Speaker 1: and I think Abdu'l-Sayed is falling like a rock. And
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, it's a dead heat between Michelle Tafoya, who's
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Speaker 1: a fabulous candidate, and Peggy Flanagan, who's an awful candidate.
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Speaker 1: So I think the bad new bear in the legacy media,
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Speaker 1: they want to focus on the pump. It's important, but
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Speaker 1: it's not the only thing, and voters are smart.
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Speaker 9: Right, and I think if Republicans are smart, they would say,
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Speaker 9: let's look at the policies. Yeah, and the numbers are numbers.
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Speaker 9: Let's see what we can do. For example, why is
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Speaker 9: gas up? Well, we had a 47-year problem. We're dealing
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Speaker 9: directly with Iran. We know about the Strait of Hormuz. Well,
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Speaker 9: why was gas up during Joe Biden's day? How about
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Speaker 9: they shut down and cancel leases in Alaska? How about
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Speaker 9: they banned offshore drilling in the Gulf of America and
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Speaker 9: Atlantic Coast? And how about pausing leases on federal lands?
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Speaker 9: And how about just refusing to do all this drilling
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Speaker 9: while draining the Strategic Law Reserve, which was supposed to
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Speaker 9: be there for an emergency? And the emergency was it
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Speaker 9: was the midterms and they want us to live on
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Speaker 9: solar panels. So this is one thing that I think
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Speaker 9: Republicans have fallen short. They haven't messaged their policies. They
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Speaker 9: look to the numbers as opposed to the Democrats, who
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Speaker 9: have not been asked about their policies except for let's
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Speaker 9: tax billionaires and Medicare for all, which makes no sense.
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Speaker 1: Medicare for All is a disaster. I'm going to watch
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Speaker 1: for President Trump being out 31 out of 31 days
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Speaker 1: in October, maybe twice a day. He is the get-out-the-vote
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Speaker 1: machine for the MAGA base and for everyone who doesn't
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Speaker 1: want their inflation to go nuts. And I'll point out
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Speaker 1: one other policy, Brian. You bring in Democrats, they go
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Speaker 1: back to the every dollar of defense spending increase has
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Speaker 1: got to be matched by a dollar of giveaway spending
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Speaker 1: to our favorite groups. That's the most inflationary thing. That's
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Speaker 1: what Joe Biden did in the first year with his
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Speaker 1: Inflation Reduction Act that unleashed inflation. I mean, it was
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Speaker 1: so wild four years ago. Americans don't forget it. They
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Speaker 1: don't forget the border being open. They don't forget any
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Speaker 1: of that. They don't forget Afghanistan collapsing. Trump is one
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Speaker 1: in Iran. He's one in the Battle of the Strait
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Speaker 1: of Hormuz. He's one with his economic policies. I think
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Speaker 1: the Republicans have a good case to make. They just
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Speaker 1: have to make it every day, morning, noon, and night.
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Speaker 1: And I think they're beginning to get into that groove,
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Speaker 1: and they've got plenty of time to make the argument.
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Speaker 9: Right, and there's a few things that are going to happen.
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Speaker 9: The Canadian trade deal has to land.
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Speaker 4: That would help.
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Speaker 1: And the other thing would help them.
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Speaker 9: Would be uh a resolve in iran and those two
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Speaker 9: things are unscripted we'll see what happens in the next
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Speaker 9: month you you it thanks so much always great.
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Speaker 1: I i enjoyed doing it with brian brian knows his
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Speaker 1: politics left right and center uh 31 days is enough time.
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Speaker 1: It's actually 35 days. But you've got to do it
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Speaker 1: every day. Every day. You've got to say the numbers.
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Speaker 1: You've got to say inflation is at 3.4%. Gas prices
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Speaker 1: are coming down because we've won in Iran the battle
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Speaker 1: of the Strait of Hormuz. By the way, groceries are
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Speaker 1: up 2.2% this year. They were up 12.2% in the
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Speaker 1: year of Joe Biden's midterms. Just remind people that the
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Speaker 1: border was opened. Millions of people coming across, vanishing into
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Speaker 1: the interior. It's absolutely closed tight now. Talk, talk, talk. Persuade.
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Speaker 1: I'll be right back on The Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back, America.
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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. Andy Burnham is the new prime minister
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Speaker 1: of the United Kingdom. He made an announcement today. I'll
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Speaker 1: play it for my guests. We're waiting for Danny Pletka.
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Speaker 1: He'll be here shortly from American Enterprise Institute. Here's Andy Burnham,
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Speaker 1: UK Prime Minister, cut number 34.
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Speaker 7: Strong indications that Iran played a part in what happened
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Speaker 7: over the weekend at RAF Fairford. But, of course, it
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Speaker 7: remains an ongoing, complex and serious police investigation. And, of course,
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Speaker 7: we are working closely with our colleagues in the United
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Speaker 7: States of America So it's ongoing. I have held a
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Speaker 7: COBRA meeting as I've been here at the conference in Liverpool.
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Speaker 7: We are on top of it in every possible way imaginable.
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Speaker 7: Police in Gloucestershire, our counterterrorism police, have done an outstanding job.
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Speaker 7: I thank them for that. We will say more in
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Speaker 7: due course, but we can confirm our belief that we
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Speaker 7: believe Iran to have played a part.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you heard that, but he said,
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Speaker 1: our belief, and that we're working with our friends in
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Speaker 1: the United States, and we had a COBRA meeting. COBRA
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Speaker 1: meeting is when they have a national security incident in
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Speaker 1: Great Britain. It's like the Situation Room for the president
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Speaker 1: coming in for a big deal. Danny Pletka joins me now,
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Speaker 1: national security expert. Danny, I just played Prime Minister Burnham
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Speaker 1: admitting that Iran was behind the attempted attack on the
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Speaker 1: RAF airfield, but he didn't have a lot of passion
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Speaker 1: in that. Isn't that an act of war?
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Speaker 5: Well, yes, absolutely. And forgive me, I should explain that
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Speaker 5: I'm in Jerusalem. It's a huge holiday here. And so
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Speaker 5: I'm standing in somebody's sukkah while people play music outside
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Speaker 5: because they put it on. But look, Iran has been
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Speaker 5: at war with Europe. Iran has been at war with
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Speaker 5: the UK. Iran has been at war with the United
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Speaker 5: States and Israel and its neighbors. The problem is that
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Speaker 5: every time we're willing to write this off.
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Speaker 1: We should not be willing to write this off. And
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Speaker 1: I'm glad at least the new prime minister admits it's Iran. Danny,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're in Israel. It's a miracle that that
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Speaker 1: airplane did not crash into Israel's buildings or airspace today.
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Speaker 1: It's a miracle that the Indian pilot opened the door
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Speaker 1: before he collapsed. It's a miracle there were Israeli pilots
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Speaker 1: on the plane. I mean, is that the talk of
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Speaker 1: Jerusalem today?
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Speaker 5: So weirdly, no, because people can't get to the bottom
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Speaker 5: of what actually happened. The problem for Israel and for
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Speaker 5: the world is that politics are so important to you.
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Speaker 5: The antipathy towards the Israeli prime minister is so strong
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Speaker 5: that when he says there was an attempted hijacking, people
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Speaker 5: don't want to believe him. And so rather than talking
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Speaker 5: about this all day today, about the heroism of these people,
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Speaker 5: about the nightmare that this could have been, we are
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Speaker 5: talking about Who was the good guy? What really happened here?
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Speaker 5: Was it really a hijacking? And you've seen the New
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Speaker 5: York Times suggesting that, you know, maybe this was just
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Speaker 5: a fight in the cockpit. The BBC said the same thing.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God. The prime minister met with the man
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Speaker 1: who subdued the Omani co-pilot who's bleeding. And it's a
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Speaker 1: great bit of video. I don't have the video yet.
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Speaker 1: I saw it online. And so if Israelis are doubting
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Speaker 1: that that happened, they're lost in their own mental prison
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Speaker 1: of Bibi derangement syndrome. And I'm sure there are a
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Speaker 1: bunch of people who are, right? Is their politics as
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Speaker 1: polarized as ours?
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Speaker 5: Right now, absolutely it is. You know, we are far
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Speaker 5: enough away. You know, it's a little bit like the
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Speaker 5: phenomenon we just went through for the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
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Speaker 5: People are so politically polarized that they are not willing
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Speaker 5: to admit an attack on their own country. They're not
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Speaker 5: willing to admit the facts. And they would rather question...
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Speaker 5: what the role was of their own prime minister, then
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Speaker 5: they would talk about the fact that people are trying
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Speaker 5: to murder them en masse. Wow.
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to switch subjects on you, Danny Pletka.
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Speaker 1: Oil is down to 90 and change. That's 10% lower
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Speaker 1: than Sunday. After President Trump announced he would not deal
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Speaker 1: with Iran, oil went up. And then on early Monday
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Speaker 1: morning in Switzerland, Alexander Stahel published a rather exhaustive proof
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Speaker 1: that oil is flowing out of the Strait of Hormuz
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Speaker 1: at levels that no one in America believed. Oil dropped 10%.
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Speaker 1: It's going to go lawyer. I think we've won the
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Speaker 1: Battle of Hormuz, though that does not rule out a
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Speaker 1: battle of the bulge, fire everything we've got, smoke them
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Speaker 1: if you've got them, Iranian madness. But I think we've won.
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Speaker 1: What's your assessment?
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Speaker 5: Look, my greatest concern is not that we haven't won.
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Speaker 5: We will always win against these guys in the end.
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Speaker 5: But I just read that we are yet again involved
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Speaker 5: in negotiations with them to, quote unquote, reopen the Strait.
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Speaker 5: The Strait is... for all intents and purposes, more open
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Speaker 5: than it has been and on the way to being
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Speaker 5: fully open. We don't need them to make concessions to
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Speaker 5: us and we don't need to make concessions to them. This, Hugh,
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Speaker 5: is what I'm most worried about, is that we are
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Speaker 5: going to do something dumb that is self-defeating. We've done
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Speaker 5: this more than once.
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Speaker 1: It would be madness to deal with them right now.
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Speaker 1: They are. I think they're on the brink of economic collapse.
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Speaker 1: I saw Scott Besson yesterday say they have less than
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Speaker 1: two weeks of hot oil left to sell on the
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Speaker 1: ocean that got out before the blockade. I had Mark
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Speaker 1: Montgomery on Monday saying the blockade is 100 percent effective.
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Speaker 1: And of course, we were able to do this. It
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Speaker 1: just took time. Why in the world is there any
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Speaker 1: good strategic reason to do a deal with them right now?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely not. Look, you are right. And Scott Besant deserves
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Speaker 5: so much credit. He has been clear thinking about this.
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Speaker 5: He has really understood how to impose the economic sanctions
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Speaker 5: and they feel them. The problem here is that there
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Speaker 5: are still people in the orbit of the president who
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Speaker 5: are listening to pressure from Iran's friends, from the Qataris,
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Speaker 5: from the Turks and from others who and who want
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Speaker 5: to come to the table and force us to preemptively
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Speaker 5: capitulate when, as you say, we have our boot on
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Speaker 5: their neck and they have two more weeks to breathe.
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Speaker 1: Danny, if they offered, if the Iranians said, send an
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Speaker 1: army of inspectors from the IAEA to every obliterated site
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Speaker 1: and let them run wild in the tunnels and caverns
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Speaker 1: of Pickaxe Mountain, let them report back, and then we
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Speaker 1: can talk. I think that would be something I would do.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't lift the blockade, but I would accept that
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Speaker 1: as an invitation. Would you accept that as a first step, unilateral,
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Speaker 1: by them?
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Speaker 3: Oh, 100%.
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Speaker 5: Hugh, I would send you to negotiate this. That is
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Speaker 5: the concession that we need. We need to know what
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Speaker 5: they're doing. We need to have eyes on their program
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Speaker 5: so that we can stop it. But that is something
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Speaker 5: that they have never been willing to offer. And they
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Speaker 5: didn't offer it last week.
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Speaker 1: And if they don't offer it now, they're not offering anything.
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Speaker 1: Because it's the one thing they can offer that costs
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Speaker 1: them nothing. Simple visibility. Danny Plotka and Joy Sukkot in Jerusalem.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Dee Plotka on X from
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Speaker 1: the American Enterprise Institute. Thank you, Danny. I'll be right back. America,
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Speaker 1: stay tuned. Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. On this Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Sarah C. Bedford of the Washington Examiner. Sarah,
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Speaker 1: there was a big gathering at the White House yesterday
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Speaker 1: of AI executives. You're in one of the businesses, as
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Speaker 1: I am, but you're much younger than I am, where
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Speaker 1: AI is allegedly the giant black hole that will eat
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Speaker 1: everyone's job. Was it reassuring to you, or did you
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Speaker 1: not care that all the AI people got together with
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Speaker 1: the president?
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Speaker 10: You know, if you are someone who is nervous about
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Speaker 10: what AI will do to industry, I think I might
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Speaker 10: count myself among them, just like uneasy about some of
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Speaker 10: the more dystopian futures that are painted about what AI
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Speaker 10: could do, then you should be reassured that the government
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Speaker 10: is getting more involved, right? Whatever the government gets involved
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Speaker 10: in tends to slow down. Regulation tends to hinder innovation.
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Speaker 10: So if you're nervous about the pace of innovation when
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Speaker 10: it comes to AI, maybe you should be heartened that
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Speaker 10: Congress and the White House has taken action such a
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Speaker 10: keen interest in this, but it's unclear to me what
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Speaker 10: exactly the Trump administration accomplished yesterday, more than just trying
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Speaker 10: to rebrand artificial intelligence to super intelligence. Like we had
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Speaker 10: a discussion this morning in the newsroom about like, okay,
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Speaker 10: do we have to start calling it super intelligence? Is
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Speaker 10: it still artificial intelligence? But yeah, if you're nervous about
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Speaker 10: the future of AI, maybe you want these types of regulations.
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Speaker 1: In the works. All right, whether you call it AI
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Speaker 1: or SI, I have a question for you as the
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Speaker 1: smarter than the average bear news person out there. I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to worry about AI's downsides, its dystopian potential
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Speaker 1: for damage, until someone shows me something great that it's
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Speaker 1: actually done. Not describe me what it's going to do,
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Speaker 1: but shows me something that's great. And my example is,
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Speaker 1: If it's so great, why don't we have desalinization at
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Speaker 1: scale that doesn't take much energy? Because there are water
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Speaker 1: shortages everywhere, oceans, but we can't use it and desal
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Speaker 1: cost too much. Why can't AI fix that? What's the
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Speaker 1: best example of AI other than answering trivia in a
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Speaker 1: bar at this point?
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 10: I mean, right now, it sort of fits the case
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Speaker 10: that Vice President J.D. Vance often makes for it, the techno-optimist.
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Speaker 10: that what it will do is will increase the individual's productivity, right?
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Speaker 10: That at your existing job, you will be able to
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Speaker 10: use AI to accomplish much more in a single day
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Speaker 10: than maybe you would have been able to do before.
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Speaker 10: One person might be able to do the job of
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Speaker 10: two or three people, but you don't see it replacing
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Speaker 10: entire industries of people en masse just yet. You do
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Speaker 10: hear stories about maybe on the lower rungs of, say,
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Speaker 10: like the legal industry for paralegals or people like that
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Speaker 10: who do office administrators might start to see some of
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Speaker 10: their duties eroded by this. But none of those predictions
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Speaker 10: of mass disruptions have come true quite yet.
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Speaker 1: And we've also been told that it's going to produce
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Speaker 1: new drugs, and I hope it does. And it's going
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Speaker 1: to cure cancer, and I hope it does. But I
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Speaker 1: can't think, one person said, well, look at self-driving cars.
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Speaker 1: That's a product of AI. But actually, self-driving cars were
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Speaker 1: around before the AI doomsayers showed up, weren't they? Right.
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Speaker 10: But I will say, though, that the fear about AI
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Speaker 10: has become a really potent political force.
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Speaker 11: You see candidates on.
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Speaker 10: Both sides of the aisle sort of scrambling to try
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Speaker 10: to make this issue their own. The anti-data center backlash
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Speaker 10: has been an enormously powerful force in the midterms. The
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Speaker 10: Senate just today took a vote on trying to make
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Speaker 10: AI data center companies pay for the electricity or the
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Speaker 10: energy that the new construction of data centers would use.
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Speaker 11: That failed in the Senate.
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Speaker 10: But the fact that this is one of the last
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Speaker 10: things that lawmakers are doing before they leave for the
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Speaker 10: rest of the election season, that tells you how salient
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Speaker 10: an issue this has become.
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Speaker 1: All right. Now, Sarah, let's move over to my favorite campaign,
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Speaker 1: which is Michigan. Mike Rogers, Normie. versus Abdul El-Sayed, the
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Speaker 1: most radical major party candidate of my lifetime. The RNC
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Speaker 1: has gotten a hold of all of the podcasts he
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Speaker 1: did during peak woke that he had removed. Here's cut
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Speaker 1: number 20, where he opposes a crackdown on fentanyl dealers
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Speaker 1: because it's bad for black and brown people. Cut number 20.
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Speaker 2: As usual, here's what I'm watching right now. Fentanyl is
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Speaker 2: a synthetic opioid that is up to 50 times more
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Speaker 2: potent than heroin. It's extremely addictive and way less expensive
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Speaker 2: to manufacture. It's flooding the U.S.
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Speaker 1: Drug supply.
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Speaker 2: It's also leading to a surge in opioid overdoses. While
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Speaker 2: claiming to be fighting fentanyl, the conservative responses amounted to
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Speaker 2: doing one of two things, blaming the influx of fentanyl
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Speaker 2: on the southern border or passing draconian anti-fentanyl laws designed
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Speaker 2: to punish dealers and deter use. These bills were proposed
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Speaker 2: in 46 of 50 states. Virginia codified fentanyl as, quote,
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Speaker 2: weapon of terrorism. 30 states have a drug-induced homicide statute
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Speaker 2: on the books. Look, Fentanyl is a scourge, there's no
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Speaker 2: doubt about it, and we absolutely need to protect unsuspecting
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Speaker 2: people from it. But the question is, does the law
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Speaker 2: and order, throw the book at them approach actually work?
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Speaker 2: There's a long history in this country of criminalizing drugs,
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Speaker 2: and the costs of that fall hardest on people who
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Speaker 2: suffer substance use. And too often, the enforcement has targeted
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Speaker 2: black and brown people.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Sarah, what do you think about that?
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Speaker 10: That's exhibit number like 300 of how out of touch
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Speaker 10: with normal mainstream beliefs Abdul El-Sayed is because cracking down
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Speaker 10: on fentanyl is one of maybe like five different completely
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Speaker 10: bipartisan issues that basically everyone on both sides of the
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Speaker 10: political aisle agrees on needs to happen.
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Speaker 11: Cracking down on fentanyl at the border, cracking down on
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Speaker 11: people who sell fentanyl. And so for Abdul El-Sayed, come
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Speaker 11: out and somehow make it.
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Speaker 10: A woke position to oppose the crackdown on fentanyl. I mean, it's, it's,
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Speaker 10: it shows you though what dire straits Republicans are in
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Speaker 10: heading into the midterms that Abdul Syed, he's leading in
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Speaker 10: the real clear politics average. He is a real shot
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Speaker 10: at winning that Senate seat, even though he is so
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Speaker 10: out of touch with mainstream voters and he's running in
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Speaker 10: a swing state. And I do think that's because Republicans
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Speaker 10: given Trump's unpopularity have such an uphill battle.
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Speaker 1: Now, Sarah, are you open to the argument that, uh,
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Speaker 1: prior to the primary, which he won by one point.
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Speaker 1: The smallest lead that was attributed to him in the
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Speaker 1: polls was 10 points. The highest was 18 points. He
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Speaker 1: won by one point. I don't think they can poll
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Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed because I think Michiganders are afraid or reluctant
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Speaker 1: to say what they really think about him. What about
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Speaker 1: my argument?
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Speaker 10: Oh, I am fully ready to embrace that argument. The
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Speaker 10: polls were a mess in the primary season. You saw
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Speaker 10: also over in Wisconsin, whoops, There was a huge polling
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Speaker 10: miss in the governor's race that led to a complete
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Speaker 10: what felt to the media like a complete upset.
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Speaker 11: Maybe it wouldn't have if you were a Wisconsin voter.
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Speaker 11: So I'm open to the idea that there could be
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Speaker 11: a polling miss there.
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Speaker 10: And the polling average, I mean, it's a very small
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Speaker 10: lead that Abdul El-Sayed has there. But the fact that
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Speaker 10: they do seem to be within striking distance of each
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Speaker 10: other when Abdul El-Sayed really has such fringe political beliefs
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Speaker 10: in a state that went for Trump, you know, is surprising.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Washington Post poll this morning, just to bring
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Speaker 1: people up to speed, to daddy within the margin of error,
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Speaker 1: and I don't believe Abdul El-Sayed has a lead over
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Speaker 1: Mike Rogers, but Sarah's right to point out the RCP
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Speaker 1: average does have him up. Sarah C. Bedford on X.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sarah. Follow her on X at Sarah C. Bedford.
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Speaker 1: Follow me in the next segment here on the Hugh
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Speaker 1: Hewitt Show. Welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewitt joined by
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Speaker 1: United States Senator John Houston from the great state of Ohio. Senator, um,
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Speaker 1: I believe you are the author of the rate payer
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Speaker 1: protection act that passed the house, but it did not
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Speaker 1: get out of the Senate today. Can you tell me
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Speaker 1: what it's about and why it couldn't get out of
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Speaker 1: the Senate despite getting out of the house, which is
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Speaker 1: kind of unusual.
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Speaker 3: Well, the rate payer protection act, uh, makes data centers
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Speaker 3: pay for all their power utility generation rather than passing
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Speaker 3: it on to the ratepayers, which would ultimately lower electricity
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Speaker 3: prices for residential customers. That's what it does, holds the
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Speaker 3: data centers accountable, something that is widely supported across the country.
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Speaker 4: There was a companion bill in the House.
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Speaker 3: It passed 417 to 3. Hakeem Jeffries and Mike Johnson
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Speaker 3: voted for it. AOC, the Freedom Caucus voted for it.
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Speaker 3: 206 Democrats voted for it. Comes over to the Senate.
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Speaker 3: I said, well, let's just pass this bill. Let's get
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Speaker 3: it done.
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Speaker 4: It's my legislation. I'll lead it. And Chuck Schumer blocked it.
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Speaker 3: Democrats blocked the bill we could have had because.
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Speaker 4: Everyone says we want affordability. We want to address affordability.
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Speaker 3: So we literally delivered on a silver platter a bill
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Speaker 3: that came through the House.
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Speaker 4: We could have it on the president's desk.
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Speaker 3: Right now for signature, lowering utility costs for electric users
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Speaker 3: across this country.
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Speaker 4: And Schumer and the Democrats blocked it from happening.
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Speaker 3: They talk about affordability, but they do nothing to help
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Speaker 3: us make it happen.
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Speaker 1: Were any Democrats willing to join you in passing the
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Speaker 1: Ratepayer Protection Act? Any at all in the Senate?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, surprisingly, even though Schumer demanded that the bill was terrible,
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Speaker 3: that he wasn't going to support it, four Democrats did cross,
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Speaker 3: Ossoff and Warnock in Georgia, Hassan in New Hampshire, and
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Speaker 3: Amy Klobuchar in Minnesota. Not surprisingly, all people that are
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Speaker 3: running for, many of them running for election right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and three of them running for president, Ossoff, Warnock,
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Speaker 1: and Klobuchar. And they don't want to have voted against
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Speaker 1: the ratepayer protection act. How would it have worked, Senator Houston?
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Speaker 1: Because I imagine it will come back in the lame
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Speaker 1: duck or you'll understand. it next year.
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Speaker 4: Well, we'll try.
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Speaker 3: Basically, it says that the states who run our grids,
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Speaker 3: who are in charge of this, that they need to
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Speaker 3: enact policies that hold– that require data centers to– pay
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Speaker 3: for their own utility infrastructure rather than passing the cost
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Speaker 3: on to ratepayers. It's important that we structure it like
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Speaker 3: that because 19 states have already enacted something, so we
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Speaker 3: don't want to take their deals away, but we want
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Speaker 3: the rest of the states to enact it so that
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Speaker 3: we can not pass on any electric costs to residential consumers.
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Speaker 1: So Senator Houston, I believe you were an executive officer
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Speaker 1: of the state of Ohio for 15 years. I think
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Speaker 1: you were secretary of state for eight and lieutenant governor
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Speaker 1: for seven. Am I right about my years?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Six years. It was six years, lieutenant governor, eight secretary
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Speaker 4: of state.
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Speaker 1: Okay. 14 years of being an executive. Now you're a
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Speaker 1: legislator and senators, I mean, they talk forever. How frustrating
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Speaker 1: is it to you? I know you want to go
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Speaker 1: back and I know you want to keep pushing the
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Speaker 1: boulder up the hill, but to go from executive action
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Speaker 1: to legislating and talking only. How frustrating is that?
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Speaker 3: Incredibly frustrating, Hugh, because this is complete politics.
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Speaker 4: I wanted this to be a bipartisan win. Look, it
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Speaker 4: came out of the House as a bipartisan win.
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Speaker 3: I was hoping this would be like the road to housing,
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Speaker 3: some things that we have done on a bipartisan basis.
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Speaker 4: And why do we do them on a bipartisan basis?
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Speaker 4: Because the American people want this done.
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Speaker 3: This is not a partisan issue. But because Chuck Schumer
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Speaker 3: is just wants to play politics and he doesn't want
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Speaker 3: to see success before the midterm elections.
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Speaker 4: They just block stuff like this.
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Speaker 3: And it's why it's look, it's why Congress is held
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Speaker 3: in such low esteem by the American people is because
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Speaker 3: of very, the very actions that Chuck Schumer and the
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Speaker 3: Democrats did today, where they took a 90 to 10
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Speaker 3: issue and blocked it from happening.
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Speaker 1: Earlier today, I spoke with Dani Pletka, the American Enterprise Institute.
31:47
Speaker 1: She's in Jerusalem. And she relayed to me that the
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Speaker 1: people in Israel are so polarized that they can't celebrate
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Speaker 1: the heroism of the passengers and the pilot on the
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Speaker 1: plane that was hijacked by a terrorist briefly, and they
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Speaker 1: took it back. Polarization prevents common sense. I think it
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Speaker 1: also destroys logic. Are you seeing that on the campaign
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Speaker 1: trail and in the Senate?
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Speaker 4: Uh, regrettably so. Yes. I mean, it does, it does
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Speaker 4: destroy logic.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I, I poured the last two weeks of
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Speaker 3: my life into this issue because, um, people, they say, look,
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Speaker 3: I want the prices to go down. I don't want
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Speaker 3: data centers to pass along prices to me. So it's like, okay,
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Speaker 3: house got this done. Let's, let's, let's, let's move this
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Speaker 3: forward and try to get it done. But, but just the,
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Speaker 3: the Trump derangement syndrome, the fact that people care, like
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Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer cares more about politics than he cares about
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Speaker 3: doing things that help the American people.
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Speaker 4: There used to be.
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Speaker 3: This time period where you could do both. It's like
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Speaker 3: smart policy would be smart politics. I would welcome the
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Speaker 3: Democrats saying, look, when, you know, they could have walked
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Speaker 3: out of this and said, well, when Republicans do.
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Speaker 4: It right, we'll join them. But when they don't, we won't.
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Speaker 3: And this is one of those things where We're responding
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Speaker 3: to the American people. And so let's do this together
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Speaker 3: and we'll get it done. That would have been the diplomatic,
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Speaker 3: smart thing to do on behalf of the American people.
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Speaker 4: But that's not what they did.
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Speaker 3: They just blocked it out of pure spite because they
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Speaker 3: want to prevent anyone from having a success before the election.
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Speaker 1: Now, I understand we can't talk politics because you're in
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Speaker 1: your Senate office. And so I can't talk about Sherrod
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Speaker 1: Brown and I'm not going to talk about Sherrod Brown,
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Speaker 1: your opponent. But do you think Chuck Schumer is afraid
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Speaker 1: of the Senate doing anything on data centers because data
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Speaker 1: centers are a big issue all across the country, not
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Speaker 1: just in Ohio, but all across? Does he not want?
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Speaker 1: Do people understand Democrats just stopped something important on data centers?
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Speaker 3: Well, I hope they'll understand that I've been trying to
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Speaker 3: get that word out. And I wasn't being I was
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Speaker 3: trying to be very welcoming. I kept saying I want
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Speaker 3: this to be a bipartisan success. It came out of
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Speaker 3: the House 417 to 3, the American people want data
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Speaker 3: centers to pay the bills. They don't want to pay them.
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Speaker 3: They want lower electricity prices. This is the only game
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Speaker 3: in town. This is the only bill that could have
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Speaker 3: passed before we left here that could have got to
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Speaker 3: the president's desk and been signed into law. But they
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Speaker 3: blocked it. And so I'm doing everything I can to
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Speaker 3: let people know I want to do things to make
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Speaker 3: life more affordable. But if Chuck Schumer and the Democrats
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Speaker 3: are going to block it every time we do it,
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Speaker 3: that's who you hold accountable, them, not us.
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Speaker 1: Now, you've got a leader in John Thune who's been
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Speaker 1: around a while, and he seems to me to be
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Speaker 1: very pragmatic and get stuff done. I think Chuck Schumer's
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Speaker 1: out of gas, Senator Houston. Have you noticed that, that
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Speaker 1: maybe age has caught up with him?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's caught up to a lot of people in
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Speaker 3: this place, but... But some people know when to go
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Speaker 3: and some people don't. And look, Chuck Schumer is a
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Speaker 3: political animal.
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Speaker 4: I'll give him credit.
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Speaker 3: He's very good at politics, but he's not very good
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Speaker 3: at making public policy that benefits the American people.
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Speaker 1: I would have agreed with you until today, not allowing
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Speaker 1: a data center pay your way bill to pass just
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Speaker 1: because it's authored by John Houston. That's terrible policy and
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Speaker 1: it's worse politics because people will know Democrats killed that bill.
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Speaker 1: John Huston, thank you for joining me, Senator. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: it very much. In the lame doctor next year, bring
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Speaker 1: it back. I think every American would like to see
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Speaker 1: that bill passed. Don't go anywhere, America. I'll be right
35:42
Speaker 1: back on The Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back, America. I'm
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Speaker 1: Hugh Hewitt, joined by Jim Talent, former United States Senator
35:53
Speaker 1: from the Great Stand in Missouri. Jim, I Our friend
35:57
Speaker 1: Dwayne Patterson wrote a column at Hot Air yesterday that
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Speaker 1: brought to my attention a bunch of stuff about the
36:04
Speaker 1: Houthis getting waxed that I was wholly unaware of. Were
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Speaker 1: you aware of it before you read Dwayne's piece?
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Speaker 12: Yes, but I was not aware of it in the
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Speaker 12: same detail that Dwayne talked about it. And what's happening now, Hugh,
36:20
Speaker 12: is you're seeing the mop-up of what remains of the
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Speaker 12: Iranian empire and their imperial ambitions in the Middle East. So,
36:29
Speaker 12: you know, Hamas has agreed to disarm. Hezbollah is opposed
36:34
Speaker 12: now by the Lebanese government and Israel. Syria is gone
36:38
Speaker 12: as an ally. The Iraqi government is disarming the Shiite
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Speaker 12: militia and the Houthis are under fire from about three
36:47
Speaker 12: different directions. And then of course the head of the
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Speaker 12: snake itself, is dying. I mean, I don't think the
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Speaker 12: regime lasts much beyond the election year. I don't know
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Speaker 12: how they can, because they can't fund and sustain their
37:05
Speaker 12: own repressive mechanism and their own loyalists, as Duane also
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Speaker 12: pointed out, are losing faith in the regime.
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Speaker 1: You know, I caught up with Danny Pletka in Jerusalem
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the program, and she had not
37:17
Speaker 1: been able to find anyone that was celebrating the airplane
37:21
Speaker 1: not being crashed by the terrorists today because they hate
37:24
Speaker 1: Netanyahu so much. Apparently the mental prison that is TDS
37:28
Speaker 1: has a counterpart in Israel that is BDS, BB derangement syndrome.
37:32
Speaker 1: When does that stuff ever break down? A win is
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Speaker 1: a win is a win, and we're winning in Iran. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think, look, in terms of when is.
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Speaker 12: When is the politics of the country going to normalize more,
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Speaker 12: either in Israel or here? Well, I'll talk about here.
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Speaker 12: I don't really understand. You can ask Michael Oren about
37:54
Speaker 12: Israeli politics, and you do all the time. But here,
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Speaker 12: it's when the Democrats normalize, and that will happen when
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Speaker 12: they become convinced they can't win elections without moving back
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Speaker 12: to the center. And you and I lived through this
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Speaker 12: in the 1980s. They lost three presidential elections in a row,
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Speaker 12: and that's when we got the Democratic Leadership Council and
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Speaker 12: Clinton and my old friend Dick Gebhardt moving to the center,
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Speaker 12: and that will happen here. In the meantime, they're going
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Speaker 12: to try and get elected and elect these radicals, and
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Speaker 12: they're going to do it by not talking in general
38:29
Speaker 12: election campaigns about what they want to do and instead
38:32
Speaker 12: spouting off about Medicare for all and funding public libraries.
38:36
Speaker 12: I don't think that's going to work. But we'll see
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Speaker 12: in a month or so.
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Speaker 1: Now, Gallup just posted a new poll on socialism's acceptability.
38:47
Speaker 1: Americans have a positive view of socialism. Democrats, 65 percent. Independents,
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Speaker 1: 45 percent. Republicans, 14 percent. What does that tell you
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Speaker 1: about American education, about the Democratic Party?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: I do think that there is a structural problem that
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Speaker 12: concerns me among young people. They simply haven't been educated
39:12
Speaker 12: on the historical facts of socialism. And I think in
39:16
Speaker 12: many cases, this may be the product of smartphones as
39:19
Speaker 12: well as other things, they haven't been taught critical thinking
39:23
Speaker 12: about the things that they do know. And I'm not
39:25
Speaker 12: trying to run down young people. We have outstanding young people.
39:28
Speaker 12: So I think there's a structural problem. I think the
39:31
Speaker 12: rest of that, though, is just a function of partisanship.
39:34
Speaker 12: In other words, Democratic voters know that there's a lot
39:38
Speaker 12: of Democrats who are running as socialists, and we're in
39:42
Speaker 12: an election season, and they don't want to say they
39:45
Speaker 12: don't like socialists. But I would point out to you
39:47
Speaker 12: that If 35 percent of the Democrats don't like socialism,
39:52
Speaker 12: it means a socialist candidate running in a national race
39:56
Speaker 12: is going to get swept. It's going to be like
39:59
Speaker 12: it's going to be like. Yeah, it's going to be
40:01
Speaker 12: like McGovern in 72. If they run somebody in 2028
40:06
Speaker 12: who gets effectively pinned with that label, you're going to
40:09
Speaker 12: see this. You're going to see the first presidential election
40:13
Speaker 12: a long time. That is not close.
40:15
Speaker 1: All right, now I want to play for you a
40:16
Speaker 1: clip from Troy Jackson, the DSA-er who's running in Maine
40:20
Speaker 1: against Susan Collins. Now, Larry, Curly, and Moe, the three stooges,
40:25
Speaker 1: Larry is the confused one. Moe is the angry one.
40:30
Speaker 1: That's AES. But Curly is the dumb one. That's Troy Jackson.
40:35
Speaker 1: Cut number 27.
40:36
Speaker 9: You called the Israel war with Gaza a genocide.
40:41
Speaker 13: Yes, I restated that last week.
40:45
Speaker 14: And, you know, I mean, it's unfortunate that there are
40:48
Speaker 14: people here in Maine that don't like to use that
40:51
Speaker 14: term only because, you know, they're Jewish and, you know,
40:56
Speaker 14: what that means to them with the Holocaust. You know,
40:59
Speaker 14: it fits that description.
41:00
Speaker 4: And, you know, it is.
41:02
Speaker 14: It's an unbelievable thing that's happened there that people that
41:05
Speaker 14: are innocent are being murdered, and it is a genocide.
41:09
Speaker 1: Okay, that's double dumb, Jim Talent. What do you think
41:12
Speaker 1: about that? That's it's beyond you. And it'd be great.
41:17
Speaker 1: Has he debated Susan yet?
41:19
Speaker 12: I mean, I would love to see a debate with
41:21
Speaker 12: a fair moderator and just ask him some basic questions
41:25
Speaker 12: about the Middle East.
41:26
Speaker 4: Like, oh, I don't know.
41:28
Speaker 12: When did the state of Israel come into being?
41:30
Speaker 1: Oh, that's not fair. That involves a fact. That's a fact. Yeah, exactly.
41:34
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I mean, look.
41:37
Speaker 12: I have a great deal of confidence that Susan is
41:40
Speaker 12: going to win that race. I think Mike Rogers is
41:42
Speaker 12: going to win. I think where we have good candidates,
41:45
Speaker 12: I'd watch Michelle Tafoya in Minnesota. I'd watch Sununu in
41:49
Speaker 12: New Hampshire, although he's running against somebody who's very far
41:53
Speaker 12: to the left, but is just a stronger politician. I
41:56
Speaker 12: think where we've nominated good people, and you, by the way,
41:59
Speaker 12: I loved your interview when you started talking about what's
42:01
Speaker 12: going on with what's actually going on with inflation in
42:04
Speaker 12: the economy. And people are starting to pick up what
42:08
Speaker 12: we've talked about on this show for the last six weeks,
42:11
Speaker 12: which is let's start talking about the good news with
42:13
Speaker 12: the economy, because there's plenty of it. We're on the
42:16
Speaker 12: cusp of a big boom like people haven't seen for
42:20
Speaker 12: 40 years and a big production boom, which, among other things,
42:24
Speaker 12: will lower inflation. You know, medium family income is way up.
42:28
Speaker 12: I mean, manufacturing productivity is way up. I mean, the
42:33
Speaker 12: investments in the country continue. I could go on for
42:35
Speaker 12: quite a while about you, and I'm glad you're talking
42:38
Speaker 12: about it, and I think the president's going to talk
42:41
Speaker 12: about it in this month of campaigning he's going to do.
42:45
Speaker 1: I hope 31 out of 31 days he ought to
42:47
Speaker 1: point out that grocery prices were up 12.2% four years ago.
42:52
Speaker 1: They're up 2.2% this year. It is an economic boom,
42:56
Speaker 1: and when the Iran tax is off of the world,
42:59
Speaker 1: and by that I mean not just oil. Right. But
43:02
Speaker 1: the entire cost of having to pay for insurance for
43:05
Speaker 1: having a crazy regime, the boom in the global economy
43:10
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43:13
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43:16
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43:18
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43:21
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46:29
Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined by Abe Greenwald, the managing editor
46:32
Speaker 1: of Commentary Magazine, a daily participant in the Commentary Podcast,
46:36
Speaker 1: which I have not listened to yet today. So, Abe,
46:39
Speaker 1: I don't know, did you cover the miraculous saving of
46:44
Speaker 1: of the airliner with 174 passengers that there was an
46:48
Speaker 1: attempt at hijacking and crashing. Did you cover that today?
46:52
Speaker 1: In great detail, Hugh.
46:54
Speaker 4: Yeah.
46:55
Speaker 15: We were lucky today to have Matt Continetti on, who
47:00
Speaker 15: normally joins us on Thursdays, but he was here. And
47:04
Speaker 15: we talked about, I mean, not just the obviousness, which
47:07
Speaker 15: is the heroics and the capability of the passengers who
47:12
Speaker 15: stormed the cockpit and took control of the plane, landed
47:16
Speaker 15: it safely and administered care to the pilot who was
47:20
Speaker 15: stabbed by, by the terrorist. Um, but also about the
47:24
Speaker 15: regional significance of it all. Um, and just what it means, uh,
47:31
Speaker 15: that it's happened now when it has, if there is a,
47:37
Speaker 15: an Iranian connection, we don't know that I'm not asserting that, um,
47:41
Speaker 15: But it's possible. And just what a remarkably changed Middle
47:46
Speaker 15: East this is that you had just to begin with
47:50
Speaker 15: a plane coming from the UAE to Israel that could
47:56
Speaker 15: then land, make an emergency landing safely and obtain care
48:02
Speaker 15: for the survivors in Saudi Arabia. So, yeah, it's been a–
48:09
Speaker 15: there are worse things to wake up to than the
48:13
Speaker 15: latest Israeli miracle.
48:15
Speaker 1: All right. Now, I wanted the audience to see who's
48:18
Speaker 1: watching on the Salem News Channel. Bibi Netanyahu met later
48:22
Speaker 1: in the day with one of the heroes from the plane,
48:25
Speaker 1: and they exchanged a hug and a conversation. And the
48:29
Speaker 1: fellow said he watched reality TV. It's a great moment
48:32
Speaker 1: for the survivors and the heroes on there. Then I
48:36
Speaker 1: talked to Danny Pletka of the American enterprise Institute from
48:40
Speaker 1: a Sukkot. And, um, I think that's what it's called
48:43
Speaker 1: in Jerusalem. And I asked her about this and she said, well,
48:46
Speaker 1: you people refuse to believe whether or not it was staged.
48:51
Speaker 1: They hate BB so much. They're thinking maybe it was staged.
48:55
Speaker 1: Does Israel have the equivalent of TDS over there that
48:58
Speaker 1: they're not able to see reality in front of them?
49:03
Speaker 15: Uh, So I have to I have to, you know,
49:07
Speaker 15: I'm not an expert on Israeli political culture. My understanding
49:12
Speaker 15: of things, however, is and if Danny's there, she knows
49:17
Speaker 15: is that people are. a worse case of BB derangement
49:24
Speaker 15: syndrome in Israel than Americans do of Trump derangement syndrome here.
49:31
Speaker 15: But I do think there's a very key difference, which
49:35
Speaker 15: is that.
49:37
Speaker 1: We can hate in America, a.
49:41
Speaker 15: Certain portion of the population can despise a given leader,
49:48
Speaker 15: elected official, so much that it infects our understanding of
49:55
Speaker 15: national purpose and distorts it. I don't think you really
50:00
Speaker 15: have that in Israel. Yeah, of course, there's a far left,
50:03
Speaker 15: but there is a consensus about What needs to be
50:07
Speaker 15: done when you are under attack, when you are fighting
50:11
Speaker 15: terrorist neighbors? And I find that more heartening than I
50:17
Speaker 15: do whatever, to whatever extent. I find it more heartening
50:22
Speaker 15: than I do find worrying the extent of the BB
50:25
Speaker 15: derangement syndrome that I've been made to understand surely exists.
50:30
Speaker 1: Well, in America, TDS is a mental prison from which
50:34
Speaker 1: people can escape. Sometimes they go back in. It's like
50:37
Speaker 1: the old prisoner television series, which John would remember, and
50:40
Speaker 1: you're too young to remember.
50:41
Speaker 15: Oh, I've seen it in its entirety.
50:44
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
50:45
Speaker 5: Okay.
50:45
Speaker 1: So, you know, TDS is like the ball that comes
50:47
Speaker 1: and gets you, even if you're trying to break away
50:49
Speaker 1: from it. But I didn't think it would prohibit a
50:54
Speaker 1: people from celebrating heroism. That's really bad. All right, now
50:58
Speaker 1: I want to switch to Troy Jackson. You've heard of
51:00
Speaker 1: Larry Curley and Moe, obviously. Well, Troy Jackson is the
51:05
Speaker 1: Curley of this election. Larry is Abdul El-Sayed, and Moe
51:13
Speaker 1: is Tallarico. But Curley is definitely Troy Jackson. Here's Troy
51:18
Speaker 1: Jackson on WCSH Portland NBC yesterday talking about Gaza cut
51:25
Speaker 1: number 27. You called the Israel war with Gaza a genocide.
51:30
Speaker 13: Yes, I restated that last week.
51:35
Speaker 14: You know, I mean, it's unfortunate that there are people
51:38
Speaker 14: here in Maine that don't like to use that term
51:41
Speaker 14: only because, you know, they're Jewish and, you know, what
51:45
Speaker 14: that means to them with the Holocaust. You know, it
51:48
Speaker 14: fits that description, and.
51:51
Speaker 4: You know, it is.
51:52
Speaker 14: It's an unbelievable thing that's happened there that people that
51:55
Speaker 14: are innocent are being murdered, and it is a genocide.
51:59
Speaker 1: Now, Abe, I'm not Jewish, but I do happen to
52:03
Speaker 1: be in Maine today, and I do object to the
52:05
Speaker 1: fact that he used the term genocide because it isn't
52:07
Speaker 1: genocide and it's not remotely close to it. He's just
52:11
Speaker 1: not very smart. What's your reaction as someone who is
52:14
Speaker 1: Jewish to that statement?
52:17
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, aside from the obvious that it's revolting
52:20
Speaker 15: and disgusting and wildly factual factually inaccurate and we have
52:25
Speaker 15: there's more and more that comes out every day to
52:28
Speaker 15: this problem not that there was ever a question of
52:30
Speaker 15: the legitimacy of the claim but um the the position
52:34
Speaker 15: that the that israel uh committed a genocide in gaza
52:38
Speaker 15: is is so on its face is so preposterous given
52:42
Speaker 15: everything we know about aids aid and vaccines and and
52:48
Speaker 15: moving the population out of, out of, uh, areas that
52:52
Speaker 15: were that, that were targeted for, because Hamas was there and, uh,
52:57
Speaker 15: and all the rest of it. Um, but, you know, I, I,
53:02
Speaker 15: I kind of think something may be happening along the
53:06
Speaker 15: lines of when, uh, you know, there's a sort of
53:09
Speaker 15: theory that, uh, if you use a certain word so,
53:15
Speaker 15: so much, it, it, it, ceases to have any meaning
53:18
Speaker 15: at all and this is kind of you know like
53:22
Speaker 15: there was a period of time in American history when
53:27
Speaker 15: African Americans would sort of adopt the n-word to take
53:31
Speaker 15: the the idea is that it takes the sting out
53:34
Speaker 15: of it you make it your own.
53:37
Speaker 4: That it's sort of.
53:39
Speaker 15: Empowering it's not that this is empowering and it's not
53:44
Speaker 15: good to take erase the meaning of genocide. But I
53:51
Speaker 15: feel that because the Democrats, led by the radical socialists
53:57
Speaker 15: and the Islamists, have been going so full steam ahead
54:02
Speaker 15: on this genocide point, this genocide, saying genocide as a
54:06
Speaker 15: litmus test, that we're nearing a kind of tipping point
54:12
Speaker 15: where I think it's may be coming facially absurd to
54:19
Speaker 15: most onlookers.
54:21
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think it's going to play
54:23
Speaker 1: out that way. And I think when you say it,
54:27
Speaker 1: you're becoming increasingly outed as dumb. That Troy Jackson thing,
54:32
Speaker 1: he just sounds dumb. It's just dumb to anyone who
54:35
Speaker 1: knows Rwanda, Cambodia, much less the Holocaust. If they don't
54:39
Speaker 1: know anything or the Uyghurs, you just sound stupid. And
54:44
Speaker 1: that's what Troy Jackson did. Abe Greenwald. Follow him on
54:49
Speaker 1: X at Abe Greenwald. Listen to the commentary podcast. Like
54:53
Speaker 1: and subscribe to it. Tell everyone about it. It's the
54:55
Speaker 1: best one out there. And I'm going to listen to
54:57
Speaker 1: it after the program today because I'm glad you talked
55:00
Speaker 1: about the miracle in the skies over the Middle East today.
55:04
Speaker 1: Thank you, Abe. I'll be right back, America. Stay tuned.
55:08
Speaker 1: Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined now by the
55:10
Speaker 1: host of the Getting Hammered podcast, which is a must-listen.
55:15
Speaker 1: Mary Catherine Hamm and her co-host Vic Mattis entertain both
55:18
Speaker 1: the Fetching Hewitt and I, and all of you out
55:21
Speaker 1: there who listen to Getting Hammered. Mary Catherine, welcome. Great
55:25
Speaker 1: episode today on the election. I'm going to talk about
55:28
Speaker 1: the midterms, if you don't mind. But first, I want
55:31
Speaker 1: to play for you the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
55:34
Speaker 1: Can you name him, by the way, Mary Catherine, without
55:37
Speaker 1: a prompt?
55:39
Speaker 5: Burnham.
55:39
Speaker 1: Andy Burnham. Good for you. I'm impressed. OK, Mary Catherine
55:44
Speaker 1: Hamm got it. Here's what he had to say. Cut
55:45
Speaker 1: number 34.
55:46
Speaker 7: Wrong indications that Iran played a part in what happened
55:51
Speaker 7: over the weekend at RAF Fairford. But of course, it
55:54
Speaker 7: remains an ongoing complex and serious.
55:57
Speaker 1: Mary Catherine, Iran played a part. What does that mean
56:00
Speaker 1: to you?
56:03
Speaker 16: It means that he should be a lot more angry
56:05
Speaker 16: about it than that, just to start with. And that
56:09
Speaker 16: obviously Britain has some trouble controlling these environments, which leads
56:14
Speaker 16: to problems for their military and our military at this
56:17
Speaker 16: Air Force base. And also thank you to the lady
56:20
Speaker 16: farmer who has thus far been anonymous for calling this
56:24
Speaker 16: in and breaking up the unmarked white vans and men
56:27
Speaker 16: with balaclavas.
56:29
Speaker 1: She may not want her name known, given the number
56:32
Speaker 1: of Iranian agents running around the United Kingdom. But you're right.
56:35
Speaker 1: You would think he would actually might want to get
56:38
Speaker 1: involved in defeating Iran since they're operating on his territory.
56:41
Speaker 1: But I digress. Quote number two, Troy Jackson, DSA, running
56:47
Speaker 1: for the United States Senate against the most moderate Republican
56:50
Speaker 1: in the United States, Susan Collins, who also happens to
56:53
Speaker 1: be chair of the Appropriations Committee, vital to the future
56:56
Speaker 1: of Maine. and a lovely lady and a wonderful legislator
57:00
Speaker 1: who's made 10,000 consecutive votes. Here is her opponent, Troy
57:03
Speaker 1: Jackson on WCSH Portland NBC with Philip Hirschhorn yesterday, cut
57:10
Speaker 1: number 27. He called the Israel war with Gaza a genocide.
57:15
Speaker 13: Yes, I restated that last week.
57:18
Speaker 15: You know, I mean.
57:21
Speaker 14: It's unfortunate that there are people here in Maine that
57:24
Speaker 14: Don't like to use that term only because, you know,
57:27
Speaker 14: they're Jewish and, you know, what that means to them
57:31
Speaker 14: with the Holocaust. You know, it fits that description.
57:35
Speaker 4: And, you know, it is.
57:36
Speaker 14: It's an unbelievable thing that's happened there, that people that
57:40
Speaker 14: are innocent are being murdered, and it is a genocide.
57:44
Speaker 1: All right, so Mary Catherine, I have two questions for you. One,
57:47
Speaker 1: if there was a spelling bee in the Senate and
57:49
Speaker 1: Troy Jackson had won, would he come in high? And
57:52
Speaker 1: then two, what do you make of the comment?
57:56
Speaker 11: Um, yeah, he's not impressive to me.
57:59
Speaker 16: And I think what I make of the comment is
58:01
Speaker 16: that there isn't a genocide by definition and words have definitions.
58:04
Speaker 16: And the thing the left does is that they deprive
58:06
Speaker 16: us of the definitions of those words and they make
58:08
Speaker 16: all of their adherents say things that aren't true as a,
58:13
Speaker 16: as a ticket to admission to the left base.
58:16
Speaker 11: Now, like there's some of this on all.
58:17
Speaker 16: Sides of politics, but this one's a a particular whopper
58:20
Speaker 16: that is particularly offensive and particularly wrong. And it's the
58:24
Speaker 16: audacity of its wrongness is part of the trick. They're like,
58:27
Speaker 16: just keep saying this giant wrong thing over and over
58:30
Speaker 16: again and people will buy it. But I love the
58:33
Speaker 16: idea that you can't have any issue with it unless
58:35
Speaker 16: you're Jewish.
58:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you got there. I'm glad you picked
58:39
Speaker 1: up on that.
58:39
Speaker 11: That's the only objection.
58:42
Speaker 1: It's not. And he's really a dummy. So we have
58:46
Speaker 1: Larry Curley and Moe running for Senate. Larry is all
58:49
Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed. He's the dangerous one. Curly is Tallarico. And
58:54
Speaker 1: then Mo is this guy. What do you make about
58:58
Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed? Can you imagine him winning? I mean, really?
59:02
Speaker 16: Look, I tend to think that there are plenty of
59:06
Speaker 16: normies left in Michigan who.
59:08
Speaker 11: Are like, I don't think we can do this. this.
59:11
Speaker 11: The polls, you know, sometimes suggest otherwise.
59:14
Speaker 16: However, look, Rogers has been on the ground a lot
59:17
Speaker 16: over the past several years. I know our friends at
59:20
Speaker 16: Americans for Prosperity are knocking doors in Michigan and doing
59:23
Speaker 16: the hard work on the ground.
59:25
Speaker 11: And I think that he.
59:26
Speaker 16: El-Sayed, in many ways, hasn't coalesced the coalition in the
59:31
Speaker 16: way that other Democrats would have.
59:33
Speaker 11: So he has real vulnerabilities. But he should be a
59:36
Speaker 11: lot lower.
59:37
Speaker 16: Than I'm seeing in polls. And I'm hoping that the
59:40
Speaker 16: people of Michigan send him back home.
59:43
Speaker 1: I just think there are a lot of people who
59:44
Speaker 1: are unwilling to say, not now, not ever, never. I
59:46
Speaker 1: won't vote for that guy. Let me ask you about
59:49
Speaker 1: the question that you raised about door knocking. You've done it,
59:53
Speaker 1: according to today's Getting Hammered podcast. Both you and Vic
59:57
Speaker 1: have done it. I did it too. I never liked it.
59:59
Speaker 1: I don't like dogs yelling at me and barking at
1:00:01
Speaker 1: me and that sort of thing. But you do learn stuff.
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Speaker 1: What are the people over at AFP learning?
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Speaker 16: So what they're learning is that if you go to
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Speaker 16: a door and make an argument to a voter who's
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Speaker 16: maybe apathetic or leaning left out of annoyance with a
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Speaker 16: general sort of referendum environment on Trump and the economy,
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Speaker 16: you can talk them toward the right and toward conservative
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Speaker 16: options by simply highlighting exactly how crazy and socialist many
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Speaker 16: of these candidates are, especially the literal DSA ones, but
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Speaker 16: others as well, where you can basically make the argument
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Speaker 16: that I think Rick Jackson in Georgia has made really well,
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Speaker 16: which is these people will drag you back to 2020.
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Speaker 11: Do you think that they won't?
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Speaker 16: Because these are the things that they believe, and if
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Speaker 16: you highlight those things and the economic radicalism to people
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Speaker 16: on their doorsteps, they will move to the right.
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Speaker 11: In their decision-making process.
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Speaker 16: But you do have to make it clear, and this
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Speaker 16: is one of the things that the Republicans have going
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Speaker 16: for them.
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Speaker 11: Is a lot of money to spend on making that clear.
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Speaker 1: On persuading. I want to close by saluting your endorsement
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Speaker 1: of reading to your kids. I read all of the
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Speaker 1: Little House on the Prairie books to your counterpart in
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Speaker 1: age and gender that in my family, and she would
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Speaker 1: be shocked by the reality of the world then. I
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Speaker 1: don't think it gets old and I don't think it
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Speaker 1: can be replaced. Something goes on when you read to children.
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Speaker 1: How do you articulate that?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, it's a magical thing.
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Speaker 16: Heather Cox-Gordon wrote an entire book on this called The
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Speaker 16: Enchanted Hour. There's something magical that happens when you read
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Speaker 16: aloud to your children on a regular basis.
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Speaker 11: Nothing can replace it. It's beautiful. It's so fun. Their
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Speaker 11: vocabularies go off the charts. They find interest in other things.
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Speaker 11: They get better at other subjects because they learn to
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Speaker 11: love reading.
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Speaker 16: If you can do that for your kids, the chances
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Speaker 16: of their success just grow exponentially.
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Speaker 11: And also you'll just have this wonderful bonding time with
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Speaker 11: your kids. I try to do it as often as possible.
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Speaker 1: I sent the book Bletchley Riddle on your recommendation to
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Speaker 1: my smalls only to learn they'd already read it, but
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Speaker 1: they can give it to someone. It's a good book.
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Speaker 1: Is it a good book?
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Speaker 16: This is the one I haven't started yet. So I
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Speaker 16: will let you know, but I love the subject matter.
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Speaker 16: So I love a historical fiction. So we'll see how
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Speaker 16: it goes and I'll keep you posted.
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Speaker 1: Well, we got an endorsement from my side of the microphone,
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