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Communists VS Zionists & the Collapse of the American Empire w/ Michael Yon · Man in America Podcast

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. When I look around maybe when you look around these days, whether you're looking at America, the world in general, I just feel like that everything is so crazy. Like, I have a hard time making sense of a lot of what's happening in the world. I mean, I I I have a general idea and, I guess, could say, you know, kind of thread that I've followed to make sense of what's happening, but there's just so much craziness going on in in looking at America, what's happening here in America, you know, what's going on with Trump and and Israel, and what's where's China play into this?
• 1:00
  And there's just it's just so hard to make sense of where our country's at, where we're headed. You know, you've got them telling us that, you know, the economy is booming and everything is amazing, yet I think your average American is looking around just struggling, struggling to pay bills and to get by and to keep a job and to find a job. And it's just it's yeah. It's just I have a hard time making sense of it. And I maybe you saw my my recent posts and everything, and I my dad passed last just last week, from what appeared to be a turbo cancer, which was just kinda caught us completely by surprise.
• 1:37
  And that even further kinda sent me just spiraling a bit, not like in an overly negative way, but just in a way of questioning. It's like, what is going on in the world right now? Where is this country headed? You know, I'm still very positive. Like, I'm just I'm I'm naturally a very positive person.
• 1:54
  I'm optimistic. I do see the silver lining in things, but I also wanna be a realist. And so joining me today is a good friend of mine, Michael Yon. Now Michael is he's probably one of most intelligent people I know, and you'll see that in this conversation. Just his understanding of history and war and psychology, and he so he's if you're not familiar with him, he's a former Green Beret, but he's also an extremely experienced combat, reporter or combat, what is the sorry.
• 2:26
  My my brain just is is kinda struggling these days. Correspondent. Right? So he's just been on the front lines of war after war after war. He's been to insane numbers of countries, but he understands war, both from studying it and not studying, like, the weapons, you know, the the guns and the tanks, but studying how war is really focused on the human mind.
• 2:52
  It is a battle over the narrative, propaganda, you know, how to kinda coerce or get a whole population to believe something, how to pacify an entire population through drugs or other other mechanisms. And so today's conversation, we're gonna go think it's about an hour and a half long. I just finished recording it. We're we're gonna be hitting a wide range of topics. As you see, Michael is he's he's very intelligent.
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: He has
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of information. And so and again, we go for about an hour and a half. So if you're looking for an interview that someone's gonna sit down and, know, within a half an hour complete this kind of full circuit and you're like, oh, okay. That all makes sense. This isn't that kind of interview.
• 3:35
  This is the kind of interview of when you get an opportunity to sit down with someone who's incredibly smart and well researched and hear them just share their understanding and opinion of what's going on in the world. And it's and I actually had a lot of fun with the interview, but it's just there's a wealth of information. So look at it as almost you have an opportunity to sit down with the professor or something that's explaining these really detailed concepts, but you don't get a simple answer from Michael. You know, he he can't tell you you say, hey. Why does a lead to b?
• 4:07
  He doesn't say because it follows the next line of the alphabet. He goes into the history of the alphabet. Right? And once he comes back on the other side, you're like, oh, now I understand why a comes after b. It's not just because of the alpha.
• 4:17
  There's all this history behind it. Like, that's what Michael is. He's just an amazing guest to listen to. So what are we talking about? Psychological operations, war, you know, the drug war, you know, Zionism, communism, global forces, ancient bloodlines, and just incredible amount of information.
• 4:37
  So, also, as we are recording, at the, like, hour and a half mark, some sort of error happened with my technology, and the and the meeting ended, and so I couldn't restart it again. So anyway, so it's about an hour and a half. It does kinda cut abruptly, but that's just the nature of our conversation. And, I wasn't gonna get started back up again. But it's like, you know, we went for an hour and a half, so I think people still enjoy this, this conversation.
• 5:01
  So I hope you enjoy this. Also, if you're watching on Rumble oops. If you're watching on Rumble, thank you for supporting a free speech platform. Make sure you comment. Make sure you hit that thumbs up button.
• 5:14
  Make sure you subscribe if you haven't subscribed already. And, anyway, let's just dive into this really, really fun conversation with Michael Yan. Michael Yon, it's good to have you back on the show. It's been a very long time, so I'm excited to just as we talked about before recording, take a a sober look at the state of our world right now.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: Wow, it's getting more interesting, just as many, many people predicted, including you. I mean, of course, these things are always the specifics are unpredictable. But in general terms, it's going as a lot of people expected. Economic issues are mounting, food issues are mounting over time. I first started warning about famine in 2020, and it's clear that those conditions continue to accrue.
• 6:09
  So many things. China is threatening now. I'm in Japan. China is threatening to invade or to attack, let's say, Japan. They're already actually talking about taking Okinawa, which is something actually that President Grant warned about in 1879.
• 6:24
  He warned about eventual fight between China and Japan over Luchu. Luchu is the old name for Ryukyu. Ryukyu, you know, Okinawa, basically. So the old name was Luchu. That's what Grant was calling it in his letters, which I have all of his letters, actually.
• 6:42
  Or I don't know if I've got all of his letters, but I got 32 books of them. So it's a lot of them, right? And he talks about Japan quite a lot when he's here in Japan, and he's conversing sometimes by letter with the emperor, and he's warning the emperor of Japan in 1879 to be cautious of foreign players who will come in and try to instigate war between Japan and China over Luchu, actually, Okinawa. And again, China just threatened Japan over Okinawa. Just did it, like hours ago, like seventy two hours maybe.
• 7:24
  But he warned in 1879 that foreign powers would come try to instigate a fight between the two, which you don't need foreign powers to do it now, and that they would loan money to China and Japan and end up owning China and Japan. So it's just a normal war play. It's the normal Of course, at that time, as smart as Japanese are, very smart, but they were still not as dialed into the globe because they had been more isolated for quite a while. So in 1879, I'm talking about. So, you know, that's why President Grant, I think, thought he should take liberty and explain that to the emperor, like, Hey, don't take the loans, whatever you do.
• 8:07
  And, you know, you should do almost everything. He didn't say everything within your power, but he said basically almost everything in your power not to go to war with China. There are some things you might have to do it for, but at almost all cost, avoid war with China. You're going to end up both being owned. Now, you see Trump was just over here, by the way.
• 8:30
  And I said when Trump was here, you know, I've published three books on the Chinese information war against Japan. These are these are them, actually. They're only in Japanese, actually. They're not so I mean, unless you read Japanese, don't it's not like you're gonna come and buy them and read them. I wrote these.
• 8:51
  These are more than ten years old, these three books. Right? And these are all about the Chinese information war in preparation for war with Japan, right? So I've been all over China. We're about to go back to Taiwan and Thailand as well.
• 9:06
  This is all part of a larger war plan, a larger routes and resources war that's going on, which includes pretty much the whole globe at this point, whether it's Panama, where we spend so much time Netherlands, where we spend so much time. I was just talking with Catherine Austin Fitz on the phone yesterday, and we chatted about, you know, she called me up and we talked for quite a while, and we talked about, for instance, Netherlands, and that, you know, I don't know if you know Catherine Austin Fitz, but she sure is dialed in. You know, she really pays attention.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, does. I've been trying to get her on my show for like, three years now, and she's she's been, one of the most difficult people to not because she's, like, you know, has a bone to pick with. I think she's just busy and not maybe she doesn't know who I am. But, yeah, I I follow her work closely. Think she she's she's a very important voice to be to be paying attention to.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: I'll mention you to her. She is so smart, so squared away. I mean, and I think she does stay quite busy. I mean, she mentioned some of her travels, I won't mention them, but I mean, she's just, she's on it, you know what I mean? And she's, you know, worth listening to in the Solari report.
• 10:14
  I'm sure you're familiar with it because you But, follow you know, we were talking about these things. Actually, one of the things she mentioned, I don't know, a couple months ago, Katherine Austin Fitz, she mentioned something that I've been saying for a while, too. And you know, I say that because we're coming from different perspectives and saying the same thing. You know, sort of the children talk about five year plans, but these big players, they're talking multi century plans, right? They're talking over the horizon.
• 10:46
  They're not talking about planting trees that your children will sit under. They're planting trees that their grandchildren's grandchildren will sit under, right? We're talking super strategic thinkers. We're not you know, World War I, World War II, these weren't separate wars. These are part of a lot World War I, World War II, Korean, all these things, Vietnam, the ones I was in, Iraq and Afghanistan and some others, these are not separate wars.
• 11:11
  They are part of a larger process war. Now, you have these little separate wars here and there that pop up between, you know, different ethnic groups fighting over some river somewhere. But I mean, but on the larger, on the global scale, it's the same orb. Now, the players change over time and they morph, but the general, let's say, architecture of the firmware that's unfolding, it's all about routes and resources. You know?
• 11:38
  And you can go back as far as you can go and look at this. Go ahead, sir.
• 11:43
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• 12:52
  Preserve its power. The planning differences between the East and the not necessarily the East and the West, but I know that I know China, for instance, they're much more long term in their planning. But I also think that a lot of the enemies that we're up against, the globalists, the bloodlines, etcetera, they're not thinking about their life. They're thinking about the life of their great grandchildren. And I think that's probably one of the reasons why they're so successful in maintaining control is because they're not looking at how to do something over the next ten years because they're so strict with their lineage.
• 13:24
  You know, just like the Chinese emperors were. You know, like, Cao Cao wasn't working to achieve something for himself. It was for his children and his grandchildren and his, you know, uniting of or his attempting, you know, to kinda bring China into a certain way. And I think that's actually one of the big keys is that we're up against these multigenerational. And I think that some of these family bloodlines that are that we're up against are, you know, could be you could trace them back over a thousand years plus, and that's their their scale of planning.
• 13:54
  Whereas for us, we're looking at, oh, we got four years with this president and then four years with this president, and they keep us stuck in this this, like, tug of war that distracts everybody while we're all just working into this plan, this this this massive trap that's been set, and and they're just watching it all just, okay. Hey. Checking off the boxes. We're moving right along.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Right. We're playing the ripples. You know, we're looking at the ripples on the top of the sea. They're playing the ocean currents. You know?
• 14:23
  They're It's a totally different game when you look at it like that. They'll get less excited about some current event and more looking at the ocean currents. And again, these things go way back. There's many different again, over time, the morphology changes. For instance, the Chinese Communist Party has emerged, so you have these emergent things that come and go.
• 14:47
  But at the end of the day, it ends up being family and tribal and oligarchal structures that end up being the main energy sources, right? Even most of the look at how you see these dynamic maps that show how borders change. I mean, borders change like the clouds in the sky. A lot of people that look at these short term plans, they look at the Texas Mexican border or whatever as if that's just set in stone. It's like that's about as set in stone as the tides.
• 15:19
  You know what I mean? I mean, it's not. You only own what you will and can physically defend. And I mean physically defend, not in the court of law or any of that stuff. At the end of the day, it matters physically what you can do.
• 15:35
  And the same thing with the courts. Ultimately, it matters. Can the court call the sheriff to, you know, to to enforce the the the the, you know, the gavel? You know? And and and if and if the if the sheriff doesn't answer to the gavel, then then judge doesn't have any power either.
• 15:53
  Right? So, you know, you got the the law of the gun and the law of the book. You know? And and ultimately, we we again, like you've mentioned, these family structures. You know, I found one old book.
• 16:04
  I think it's about 200 or 300 years old. What's the name of the book? But I remember on the opening page, he mentioned Old Families Last Knot Three Oaks, which is interesting. It's just like on opening splash page. Good lord, what's the name of the book?
• 16:22
  I love old books, as you can see. I mean, our whole library is just room after And it's interesting idea because he goes on to say, you know, basically, every king is was, you know, was descended from a palper, and every every and every king will eventually be one. There is line will be. They come and go, but the structures remain. You know, the structures, it's organizational structure.
• 16:52
  And again, these strong structures, that is almost like a life form, right? It's almost like its own life form. It's these structures. And the resilient structures will carry on, right? And the non resilient ones will fall off like leaves on a tree in the autumn, right?
• 17:12
  You know, some people look like this is an American thing. Look at people like Obama or Biden or Trump like, Hey, this guy's he's just a leaf on a tree. I mean, these guys are nothing. Right? I mean, they're they're just they are literally gonna blow through and blow out the door and be forgotten.
• 17:28
  Right? I mean, this the organizational structures and these larger things that we're looking at. Now keep in mind, an underlying ocean current is always routes and resources. Routes and resources. People are like stigmergic learning from ants.
• 17:43
  You know, we're going to make a canal through the Panama Canal. It took hundreds of years to do that. It didn't take, like, fourteen years. It took hundreds. I mean, you know, when Columbus and others first were beaten down there in Balboa and all that, they always wanted a path between or especially when Balboa spotted the South Seas, the Pacific.
• 18:02
  You know, they always wanted a path between the seas. That's why the Scottish ended up going bankrupt, by the way, when they tried to make the Darien project in Panama in the 1690s, and they went bankrupt, and then they got absorbed in the Articles of Union with England into, well, it became Great Britain, right? So actually, Scotland succeeded in Panama in making a path between the seas, they may have absorbed England, but Scotland went bankrupt and they got absorbed by England, right? So in 1707, that is why a lot of Scottish don't realize this that is why Scotland is part of Great Britain today, was because they tried to make a path between the seas and Panama. They went bankrupt.
• 18:42
  They had two different major expeditions. They lost about 2,000 people and they got absorbed. So these things happen, you know, constantly. You know, the major globalism that we look at now, when did it really start? You know what I mean?
• 18:56
  It started way back, biblical before, right? And I mean, you look at the Bible and a lot of this stuff listen, if it's in the Bible, it was already very old for them to be able to set down the wisdom. Right? And pretty much every time you think you come up with something brilliant, you're like, well, there it is. That's in the Bible too.
• 19:14
  Like pandemic, famine and war. All this stuff was already known, right, way back then. But let's fast forward to like 1415. That's when the Portuguese you know, this is fast forwarding past Genghis Khan and all that. You know, when people were doing globalism on horseback and camels and little boats that went from little, you know, around the Met or something, you know, it wasn't really the big time globalism that we're looking at today.
• 19:41
  And we'll talk about one of those architectures. In 1415, the Portuguese, you know, at this point, the Spanish and the Portuguese had sort of beat back the Muslims off the Iberian Peninsula, and they were getting some breathing room. And the Portuguese are like, hey, they took off and they sailed over to Ceuta, which is an enclave in Morocco now. And they attacked. The Portuguese attacked.
• 20:05
  They sort of sailed around the corner through the Strait Of Gibraltar and attacked. They got a bunch of gold, right? So they realized, Hey, this is good. So that's when Prince Henry the Navigator and whatnot started to come of age, the Portuguese started building better ships, they started learning how to navigate. They started learning how to really navigate.
• 20:28
  And actually, let me grab a globe. You're gonna like this, I think. Hold on. Sorry about that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's okay. It's it's part of the experience. Yeah.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: So so they they they got oh, Prince Henry, the navigator. Oh. That's in my other part of the library. It's not in this room. I'll say that Prince Henry got navigator man.
• 20:51
  But anyway, so 1415, the Portuguese, they had like a monopoly. Right? So the Spanish, who were their neighbor on the Iberian Peninsula, are like, hey, those little Portuguese are getting rich. So the Spanish got involved. Next thing you know, Columbus sells the ocean blue, 1492, comes over, bumps into places like Cuba, thinks he found Japan.
• 21:10
  Didn't quite find it. I'm in Japan now. But, you know, he found different things. He goes back to the ant bed, and he's like, hey. You know, it's like we found India and all this stuff.
• 21:20
  Right? And and then, you know, they start doing other missions, and finally, they find, you know, the Panama area, and Balboa comes over and all these. So now we're into 1492, '23. So now we've got the Spanish and the Portuguese starting to go head to head. Right?
• 21:35
  Now this is important. This is when we can see a superstructure of the architecture actually form right now, or actually, let's say, exert itself on a global scale, which still has effects today. So Portuguese and the Spanish were both Catholic, right? And so the Pope, Alexander VI, they're like, Uh-oh, my boys, the Portuguese and the Spaniards are going to go head to head, right? And so he did the Treaty of Tordesillas, right?
• 22:05
  And so the Treaty of Tordesillas was like, you take this half of the world and you take this half of the world. So the Spanish that's why in South America, for instance, today in Mexico, they all speak Spanish, but Brazil speaks Portuguese because that line went right there. Now they didn't quite know where Japan was yet, but so they so in 1494, the Treaty of Tordesillas, Pope Alexander the sixth draws that line. And of course, the Portuguese were taken slaves, and they speak Portuguese. That's why you have a lot of Blacks that speak Portuguese in Brazil today, right?
• 22:41
  It was because of the treaty from 1494, Treaty of Tordesillas. So the superstructure at that time was the Catholic Church, right? And so now, as time goes on, the Spanish and the Sorry, the exposure keeps changing. But as they start to be able to do better maps by the way, in fourteen ninety ish, nobody knows when this globe was actually made. Well, is a model of it.
• 23:09
  This one might be a couple 100 years old, but this one's glass actually. This is the Eyre de Atfel globe, right? But the original was from about 1490, 1494. Nobody really knows exactly, but in that time frame. So this is the oldest known existing globe, or this is a later rendition of it.
• 23:28
  And there's no North Or South America on this globe. So this was the high technology map of that time. Now, people argue and say, that's not true. We had all kinds of maps and whatever. Okay, produce them, whatever.
• 23:38
  So but anyway, maybe they were, maybe they weren't. I don't know. You know, everybody will argue, no, there was people here. Okay, whatever, man. So produce the stuff.
• 23:47
  But we do know that this exists, right? This is called the erd apple, and the erd erd means earth in German, right? And apple means apple, right? So the earth apple, but in Southern Germany and Austria and Switzerland, erd apple actually means potato. Anyway, so this is the potato globe, and some people are like, well, this can't be true because potatoes weren't actually introduced into Europe yet because they got those from The Americas.
• 24:13
  Anyway, whatever. I get it. But and I I could talk about that all day about the Aeronautical Globe. But this was the high-tech map of the time. Right?
• 24:21
  And, you know, keep in mind, they were getting better at navigation, better at clocks, which you need for navigation. They were getting better at, you know, all kinds of, you know, celestial navigation and the mathematics involved and all these, better at map making. So now let's fast forward about thirty years or so after the Treaty of Tordesillas in 1494, where Pope Alexander the sixth divided the world into two parts. Portugal, stay on your side of the ring. Spain, stay on your side of the ring, and don't mess with other Catholic territories that I've put off limits.
• 24:54
  And part of my blessing as the Pope is you must bring missionaries with you. Of course, the Jesuits will soon be born and that sort of thing, right? You see how it's starting to emerge. This is emergent, right? And so now we have another Treaty of Saragossa about thirty years later, because now they're starting to go that's when Japan got drawn in, right?
• 25:15
  Because they started mapping out the world more and they're like, 'hey, we got the original treaty is not quite doing it for us.' So that's again, that's where Japan, where I'm at now, got drawn in with that next treaty. And that's why the Portuguese ended up being here in Japan trying to basically invade the place. You know, the Portuguese had their run of they could run all over a lot of people. When they came here, they got chopped up on the beach. You know what I mean?
• 25:41
  And it just didn't work out as well. And actually, the Japanese started calling them nonban, which means southern barbarians, you know, because they came over and they're trying to you know, they try to do the old inquisition thing here that they could do over in Goa and other places, right? They were burning people alive in Lisbon, you know, in Spain and whatnot as well, but they tried that here and they're like, you know, you'll get killed here. And so that went on and on. Of course, the Jesuits were formed, Xavier came here, well, at least into Nagasaki in about 1549, if my memory is accurate, right?
• 26:13
  So you can see this is emergent, right? So now you got the Spanish and you got the Portuguese that are starting to get some gold and silver stacked up. And meanwhile, down there in Panama and other places, they're trying to make a path between so they're starting with the Americas, you know, St. Augustine over in Florida and all these stuff. You know, all these different places, it's global, right?
• 26:35
  The African colonies. So they're setting up companies and doing these sorts of things. And now you get the other players start getting involved, like, you know, the Dutch and the English and the French. Everybody's like, Hey, those Southern barbarians are getting rich while we're up here much smarter than they are, and we're poor. Right?
• 26:54
  And that's where the Spanish actually start making errors as well. They're starting to get really rich, and they got lots of gold and silver, and they start, like, outsourcing their manufacturing of their ships to people like, you know, the Dutch. You know what I mean? Which is not going to play well when you go to war with the people who make your stuff. Who's doing that today?
• 27:13
  So and also, you had the you know, when they're starting to buy ships and stuff from their enemies, you you can't make up the stuff. It's so simple. It's like basic stupidity 101, right? Like, hey, we got lots of gold. We don't have to work anymore.
• 27:28
  Let's get it all manufactured by those weak Dutch people and the English, right? Yeah. Next thing you know, the English got the biggest navy in the world. And so, you know, and then when you go to war with Spain or whomever, you know, can keep making ships while every ship of yours that they sink or capture, you can't replace it, right? And so, you know, it's one of those sorts of wars.
• 27:48
  It's just a basic error. And so anyway, you see, Spain ended up for a spell being the biggest empire in the world. They sort of came and went, and then finally the final death nail on that was the Spanish American war. So that wasn't even that long ago. But anyway, so you see all these things come and go.
• 28:05
  You look at the British Empire finally just grows. You know, we're fast forwarding hundreds of years here. The British Empire grows like crazy. And, you know, before the Suez Canal opened, the British Empire, you know, East India Company, the Dutch, of course, were doing big business over here in the and as were the the British and whatnot. But there were some English that did not want the the Suez Canal.
• 28:30
  They didn't want a Suez Canal. Like, if we open a Suez Canal, I mean, yeah, we'll make a lot of money in the short term, but that'll be our spinal cord. Right? That'll be because the French and everybody else can use it too. Right?
• 28:41
  The Dutch, it's not not like we're the only ones that can use it, and Egypt will end up taking it. So some of the English were warning. Right? I don't know if any of the Scottish were warning too. They probably were because they're pretty smart.
• 28:51
  But I mean but the but they, you know, they were they were they were warning. And then but others were like, nope. We're gonna do the Suez Canal. The French, of course, finished it off. And 1869, the Suez Canal opens, right?
• 29:04
  And so Suez Canal started to become known as the spinal cord of the British Empire. I mean, it's making them stronger. There's no question about it. But it's also, you cut that bad boy, and it's game on. And actually, the Egyptians did take it, and they have it today.
• 29:19
  But that's actually how Israel ended up being formed, right? Israel wasn't formed as a place as as a as a homeland for Jews. That's a psyop. That's a total psyop. Just like how we got Indians on reservations or my lineage, Scott Irish.
• 29:40
  I I mean, that's why you have so many Scott Irish today thinking they're part Cherokee. You know, it's just you know, they did the Dawes rolls and all these things for, you know, for those who know what I'm talking about, the Dawes Act and the Dawes rolls. You know, if you could prove that you're Cherokee, you could get a bunch of land, 165 acres. Right? If you proved that you lived on the reservation and intended to stay and you're at a farm and that sort of thing, basically, are a civilized Cherokee.
• 30:05
  You know, in other words, it means you're a taxed Cherokee actually and living on the reservation. That's what it actually meant. Keep in mind, that's the 1880s, '90s, early 1900s. I've got the Dawes Rolls right here. The Dawes Rolls are the actual rolls.
• 30:20
  If your name is on there, I've got the original, I mean, the original book. And if your name is in there, know, you could get a bunch of land. So suddenly Scots Irish like me are like, Hey, I'm Cherokee. That's why you have a lot of Scots Irish today say, I'm part Cherokee. I was told I'm part Cherokee.
• 30:35
  Later I became a researcher and I'm like, Unfortunately, I'm not. But anyway but, you know, that's why you'll have some of them say I'm Choctaw or Creek or or you know but they they but, you know, the five civilized tribes. And and and but what it really meant was the five tax tribes. Right? And not the five when they say five civilized, they're actually saying Christian.
• 30:59
  But in reality, it's taxed. I mean, I've got the 1890 census in the other in the other library room, but the 1890 census is explicit. Taxed and untaxed Indians, right? And that was all happening at the times of the Dawes Act when they're getting ready to do the Dawes rules and all these things. That's what we did with Israel, right?
• 31:20
  With Israel, the British were doing it. You know, Theodore Herzl and his books and all that in 1897. You know, he's coming up with the idea the idea of Zionism, you know, going or that form of Zionism of going and and and and making a homeland for the Jews. But what it was because there was others who were like, why don't we go to Argentina? There's a lot of Jews live down there today.
• 31:40
  They're like, we can go down there and live in peace and have our homeland. I'm like, no. No. No. You gotta go there.
• 31:44
  Well, why do they push them there? Well, you're definitely gonna have war. Because of Suez Canal. You know, just like the the the Scots Irish were formed
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Routes and resources.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Routes and resources. The the Scots Irish, my lineage, was even the whole culture of Scots Irish was formed by taking Scottish to be borderland people against the Irish, and they intermarried with them and whatnot, and they became the Scots Irish, which is a totally different species of dog. Right? And they fight. They like women that can shoot guns and hunt bears and stuff.
• 32:16
  Right? So, I mean, like, literally me. You know? And so, you know, we don't
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: have use That's mostly my my lineage too with with some German mixed in. Basically, that that's what they meant.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Any use for a weak woman? Do you have any use at all for a weak woman? You know, some of these liberal women I've sat with at times and, you know, just a couple years ago, I was at a table with my wife, Masako, and I I said, you know, ever since I was a kid, I've had no use for weak women. If you can't shoot a gun, what use what value are you? You know?
• 32:44
  And they're, like, shocked. How can a man say that? I'm like, you're weak. You know what I mean? You gotta defend that window, and I gotta defend this door.
• 32:53
  Right? You know what I mean? We're a team, like a gun team. Right? You know?
• 32:57
  We're out here against grizzly bears and stuff. You know? Indians. You know? It's like it's like you know?
• 33:03
  Or Irish. You know? Whatever. Right? And Born Fighting, as that book goes, it's a great book.
• 33:09
  And Born Fighting, about this about the formation of the Scots Irish. Right? And it's talking about that, how we and even today, when I was reading that book, I'm like, he's right. No wonder I love strong women so much. I just have no use for a weak woman.
• 33:25
  It's like, you know, it's like, you know, and you gotta be able to throw some lead, shoot arrows and stuff. But anyway, that's how Israel ended up being formed as well. It was like, you know, they needed borderland people to go get to take control of the Suez Canal. So British were working with Theodore Herzl and all those. Look, you see this right here?
• 33:46
  In 1899, I bought this in an antique store in Panama City, Panama, right? Near the canal. It's actually a Jewish guy that owns it. This is a financial instrument that was sold for the Jewish Colonial Trust, Yudhashek Colonial Bank, right? This is for taking Palestine.
• 34:12
  This is 1899, Right? So this is their debt. You know, this was done in the same way, like, Virginia company, the East India company, or the Scottish company that was gonna make the path between the seas. By the way, Theodore Herzl's name is on here. Theodore Herzl is right there.
• 34:28
  He's the he's the top not you can't read it, but you can find this online. You can you can you could buy this is an original right here. I had it I had it mounted. I found it in the antique store. I'm like, is that what I think it is?
• 34:40
  How much for that thing? And I got it, right? And and And so what I'm getting to is the way that it was done with Israel, get a bunch of private money and government money and go over there and get a bunch of people to come in and make a colony. That's how my family ended up coming over to Jamestown. They got there and they took off in 1609.
• 35:05
  They got shipwrecked on Bermuda, and they were on a on a they were on a ship called the Sea Venture. There's books about this. You know, Shakespeare did a play about it, The Tempest, right? So they end up on the shipwrecked on Bermuda in 1609. Where were they going?
• 35:19
  Virginia Company. They were going to Virginia Virginia Company, right? All these companies, whether it's the East India Company, the Dutch East India Company, So many of these companies for Panama, Africa, and they're still doing them like the Dutch East India Company of today or the British would be like, you know, BlackRock or Vanguard or something. You know what I mean? They're the same thing, right?
• 35:41
  And it's just a different it's a more recent iteration. But so they end up being extremely powerful companies. But the but my family was going over with the Virginia company. They get shipwrecked for ten months. They made new ships.
• 35:54
  They ended up in Jamestown, ended up doing the first Powhatan Anglo Powhatan War, which is the first war with English with Indians. The there's the Anglo Powhatan War. Right? And and interestingly, in 1853, one of the ships that Commodore Perry came over with, the black ships, one of them was named the Palatine, interestingly enough. Anyway, side note.
• 36:15
  But Commodore Perry is the one that opened up Japan for The United States, right? So with gunboat diplomacy in 1853 and 'fifty four. And so, in fact, I've got his original reports to Congress right here. They're unbelievable. Three there are actually four books, one maps.
• 36:31
  And so the the these companies, they they do this. So that's what they did with this. They they started the old company like normal. You know? They you know?
• 36:43
  And finally, you know, The United States gets involved later and Israel is formed. It has zero to do with the homeland for the Jews, and the whole SIOP with the, you know, getting Christian Zionists on board is all part of the larger architecture of the information game because of the seven major maritime chokepoints in the world. At that point, Suez by far was the most important. The Panama Canal opened in 1914. Right?
• 37:11
  The pano so you've got Panama Canal, which is right now, you've got Zionist and China fighting over the Panama Canal. Right up. Now a lot of people think it's The US and anyway. And but, you know, The US is involved, of course. Anyway, I could go into that for hours.
• 37:25
  I spend a lot of time in Panama. But the but the, you know, the seven major choke points are Panama Canal, Suez, of course, Strait Of Gibraltar, Turkish Straits, Bab Al Mandeb, the Strait Of Hormuz, Strait Of Malacca, Danish Straits, and, of course, going around Africa. But but the but you you look in that area where Israel is. It's a giant aircraft carrier. Right?
• 37:48
  And and and the people that are there are there because of routes and resources. Firstly, the Suez Canal, which they wanna make the greater Israel and take it from Egypt, of course. Now in more recent times, there's energy found off of Gaza and the Indo European Corridor and the potential Ben Gurion Canal, that sort of thing. So you've got so but that you can control the med. You know what I mean?
• 38:13
  You can control the med from there. You can end up if you can take look. I was in two of the wars over there. Air Afghanistan and Iraq. They both border Iran, by the way.
• 38:24
  They both border Iran. Not a coincidence. Right? One of the old forms of warfare is to invade some country, raise up an army there, or say Indian tribes. You go fight some Indians, beat them, and then raise up an army from the Indians you just beat, and then kill the next Indians.
• 38:40
  Right? This is old this is one of the oldest forms of war. It it didn't start in America. I mean, this stuff, the Romans were doing it. I don't even know where it started.
• 38:48
  I can't find the beginning of it. And and so that and actually, the Spanish had that idea with with Japan. They thought they would come to Japan, beat the Japanese, raise up an army and beat the Spanish and then they're like, it ain't gonna work with the Japanese because they're like murder hornets, know. The Japanese will fight you on the beach, right, know, and you're not gonna come and get a toehold. And so and and so it just didn't work.
• 39:12
  And so but what I'm getting to is is these companies are still in place. They're just they have different names, but they are like a different tree that, you know, they're they've grown out of the same soil. And and they're big companies now like BlackRock or whatever. But again, Israel today is all about the Israelis there. They may think that there's some special and everybody's guarding them, and nobody cares about the Israelis.
• 39:39
  They're being flooded with drugs like everybody else.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Were Vaccines and exactly.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: They were they're being genocided like every they're useful idiots. Right? Now they don't like to be taught told that because they've been they've been pumped up like, you're the smartest people in the world. You're god's chosen. Yeah.
• 39:56
  Because we need you to go into the breach. Fight those people. Take that land for us. Right? I say us, not me, but, you know, for the big globalist.
• 40:05
  Right? We need the Suez Canal. That's where the globalist they need the Bob Omandeb. They wanna take control of that area. Right?
• 40:12
  They're right there on the med. I mean so I mean, this this is this is this is big time. This this has nothing to do with the Jewish home or the the homeland for the Jews or any of that stuff. It's all about routes and resources. That's why you're gonna end up seeing war in Panama.
• 40:30
  You're gonna end up seeing war here in, you know, in 1879, President Grant was warning again. He was warning Japan, and he was warning China about, you know, outside influences will get you to fight over Luchu, which is Okinawa. Right? Because that is how you can control China is with Taiwan and Luchu. The the reason that China wants Taiwan and Luchu, which is Okinawa, you know, the island chains, is because that's you can cut off China with that, or China can cut off Japan with that.
• 40:59
  And if China takes it, which they fully plan to do, then they can just leap on up there. They got a huge information war going in Hawaii right now. Right? There's an information war also going in Alaska now, which most Americans don't realize. There's information wars all over Canada right now and The United States.
• 41:16
  Look, Chinese have huge, not just Chinese, Russians are doing it too, Zions are doing it. There's different oligarchal structures that are doing it, right? And so you have these different oligarchal structures that for instance in Okinawa, they're trying to persuade, you know, my wife Masako is from Okinawa. They're trying to persuade her that she's indigenous people, right? And so that the Okinawans are not really Japanese.
• 41:41
  They're trying to persuade them that they're Chinese, right? And it's worked with some of the Okinawans, but most it has not. Absolutely most are like, uh-uh, we're Japanese. We're full Japanese, and we're not Chinese. But you know, it's work.
• 41:54
  They've got actually those protests in front of our bases, Japanese that are there, they don't even speak with Okinawan dialects. I mean, they're shipped in, right? I mean, this is a lot of it's just kayfabe. A lot of it's just show. But what I'm getting to is these information wars are intense, like the the information wars with the Indians in up in Yellowknife as an example, and or let's say in the more northern route, even north of that.
• 42:19
  I mean, those are all about, hey, the Indians have to have their you know, the Inuit people, they have to have their they have to have their own homeland. Well, of course, that's what we would do too. You have to have your homeland so we can take it from you. Yeah. They're trying to do the same now in the Indian Ocean with Diego Garcia.
• 42:34
  They're like, Diego Garcia belongs to Mauritius. Well, how would that happen? You know, that's a British, you know, territory now, but The United States has a strategic base there, Diego Garcia. China wants to take Diego Garcia and give it to Mauritius so China can take it from Mauritius. They're using The United Nations to say, no.
• 42:55
  Diego Garcia is part of Mauritius. And so
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• 44:01
  Speaker 2: You know, give it to Mauritius, and then China's like, we got Diego Garcia. This is the old game. It's it's simple. It's just the game of Go for China. You know, Americans are playing chess, the ones who know how to play chess.
• 44:13
  And, you know, and China's playing Go, you know, which is a totally different way of looking at the world. You know, they look at the world in a very different way. The Chinese become you. Right? They don't one of their ways of defeating enemies is just to that's partly how we beat the Indians.
• 44:28
  The biggest weapon we used was intoxicants, fire water, right? We also used death traps. We used muskets. We used rifles. We used all that stuff.
• 44:38
  We cut off their food supplies at times, you know, killing buffalo or whatever. Right? We did it took it was a process war. It wasn't like there was, you know, 10 Indian wars and it was over. It was so many Indian wars, nobody even know all these books right here, this is all about how we beat the Indians.
• 44:56
  All of them. Several shelves of these. Right? I mean, I spend so much time in these books. I'm like, hey.
• 45:02
  This is the exact same stuff that's going on in Darien Gap right now with the Kuna Indians and the Wenon Indians and Imbro. Like, taking a very detailed census like we did with the Indians in eighteen ninth. We did a lot of census on that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So I wonder
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, it's the same stuff going on now.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Sure. You're yeah. So there's a there's a lot to hone in on. But one thing I I wanna look at with you here is is just the bigger picture. Like, I wanna look at the the bigger picture of what's happening in the world and then also where America is at as a country.
• 45:30
  Because I feel like America is kind of in that, you know, to be honest, more of the end of empire stage. Right? And I wanna touch on that. But before we jump into that, I wanna I wanna I wanna talk about the you you mentioned the the the Chinese and the Zionists. Right?
• 45:44
  And it's funny because as I've tried to piece together in my own understanding, okay, what are the players? It's easy to say, okay, well, it's The US versus China. It's like, no. It's too simple. Like, yeah, okay.
• 45:55
  Look at the bigger power structures because not just we don't live in a world of all these separate 100 plus countries. We live in a world of of controlled zones by bigger, bigger entities that are, I think, battling for global control. And I think even these bigger entities are still being controlled to kinda create the the the kind of the left versus right at a global scale. But I came I and I kinda boiled down this idea that, you know, my wife and I, as we talk about, we call it the chaicoms and the zaicoms. Right?
• 46:22
  That these are the two kind of bigger forces. It's the you know, you could say it's the the CCP, but it's much bigger than that. Right? It's it's the CCP, the bricks, you know, that kind of you know, the the chai coms, might you know, say. But then you also have the zikoms.
• 46:36
  Now everyone is very, very focused on Israel. Right? I think they're they're way more focused on Israel than China, which I don't think is good because I think they're both, in many ways, enemies. And they both also have some benefits to them. But I think also, as you mentioned, they they both wanna see America fall.
• 46:52
  They want control over America. America's a very key country.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Wanna genocide you and me. They both wanna genocide you and me. I mean, it's not like, hey. We should stand with the Zionists against China. Hey.
• 47:01
  The Zionists pushed the death jab. I mean,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: straight down. I you know, Netanyahu has the vaccine
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: there to say.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: In his office. And and so that's a and, also, I mean, I think also that people that just they just say, oh, it's Israel or, oh, it's the Jews. I think that they're they're looking at too low of a level. It's like, no. You're you're you look above that.
• 47:18
  Those are just those are just kind of straw men they put out there for you to hate that one thing and not be able to focus on them. Think that there's power structures much higher than that. But when you say the Zaikoms, I think that that's what we're seeing though is that we're seeing in America, you know, you have certain presidents that are controlled more by the Chinese and certain presidents that are controlled more by Israel. But I also think that Israel is just it's not like Israel is a small country controls. I think Israel is just a a conduit for the globalist to have control.
• 47:45
  It's not like that we're being controlled by Israel. It's like, no. Israel is being used by globalist power structures as a mechanism through Mossad and blackmail operations and and, you know, funding and whatever as a mechanism to control the country and to control presidents and control our politicians. But so what do you kinda what are your thoughts on just, like, that overall big picture of these kind of opposing forces that are that are battling out?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Clearly. And the Zionists, they're not Jews. Right? Some are. Most of the Zionists appear to be Christian Zionists, actually.
• 48:20
  And, I mean, on the pie chart. And so, you know, and and and many actually are Muslims. Many Zionists are actually Muslims, like a lot of Kurds are Zionists. I spend a lot of time with Kurds. And a lot of Zionists are atheists, right?
• 48:34
  And a lot of Zionists are Jews. But actually, a lot of the Zionists and the Jews kill each other like crazy. Actually, nobody kills Jews more than other Jews. Nobody kills Muslims more than other Muslims, and Christians kill Christians like crazy too. I mean, and Hindus do the same.
• 48:50
  You know, Shiites versus Vishnites with the Hindus. Right? I mean, it's like everywhere I go in the world, whatever that in group is, they kill each other. Right? Not as much with Japanese, actually, but but but as a general as a general rule of thumb.
• 49:06
  But the but the But when it comes to the Zionist, I call it Zionfest Destiny and Chinafest Destiny. Know, had Manifest Destiny, right? I got the big beautiful painting in the other room. I had it blown up, actually. And it's from 1872.
• 49:21
  It's called American Progress, right? And because, you know, that just so encapsulates, you know, everything. But it's clear that Zionists again, that's and keep in mind, some of my best battle buddies, closest, that two of whom I've been communicating with this morning are Jewish, like, straight up. Like, very serious Jewish, right? They're not they're not like, you know, I'm from a Jewish lineage.
• 49:48
  I mean, they're like, you know, taking the holidays and stuff, right? I can't talk to them on their holidays and all that. They're my best battle buddies. You know what I mean? And so, I mean, so it's and they freaking hate Zionists, you know?
• 50:00
  And and but but again, a lot of the Zionists, weirdly, are also allies because remember, Zionists have different groups as well. Zionists fight each other. Zionists have a lot of infighting as well. I don't even know how we're trying to map them out. Like, who's who in the Zionist zoo?
• 50:18
  It's like mapping out who's who in the Chinese zoo. And who's who in the Republicans, which is I don't know what the heck that is. Or the Democrats. What is that anyway? You know what I mean?
• 50:28
  It's like it's just some name. But, you know but the but so it's not like the Chinese are monolithic. You know, there's different groups that fight each and same with the Russians, of course. This is the way humans are. It's, you know, and it's and so you see what's happening is the same old morphology of fighting is unfolding.
• 50:48
  The names change. Right now, The United States clearly is one of the main weapons used against us is what we used against the Indians. It's intoxicants. We used mostly fire water, but against us have been used fire water, of course. And also, even in the 1800s, cocaine was heavy in The United States.
• 51:10
  Cannabis was heavy in The United States. You wouldn't believe my library on this. It's in the other part of the library. Pull out books and put them in front of you. Some of them are amazing.
• 51:20
  The Opium Problems in The United States in the 1800s, right? And anyway, not to go into that, but right now the primary WMD against The United States, obviously, is psychological operations. And the rocket fuel and the grease for that both are intoxicants, and they always have been. This is zero new, right? The dope heads are always like, you don't understand anything about dope, man.
• 51:45
  I get that all the time. It's about my freedom, man. They always say it with it's about my freedom. It's like, you're your chemical slave, slave. Slave, don't talk to me about freedom.
• 51:53
  You know what I mean? Get out of here, slave. One told me that last night. Another slave. Right?
• 51:57
  I'm like, you're a dope head. You think I'm gonna argue with a dope head? I mean, that's like arguing with a bottle of whiskey. I'm gonna argue with a joint. Let me show you these things, man.
• 52:07
  They're they're look at these. I bought Masako and I, we bought this in a dope store in Bangkok. That's a bong. That's a bong. You smoke out of its head.
• 52:18
  And we bought this one in Kyoto. Cannabis isn't legal in Japan yet, but they're working on it. These are They're trying to addict the children. These are bongs. Smoke out of their heads.
• 52:28
  I mean, you can't make up this stuff. You know, and they're always talking about, you know, no, I got my freedom, man. You don't have any freedom. You're a slave. You're a chemical slave.
• 52:38
  And you know what? President Grant was talking about this in 1879 and 'seventy eight. He's talking about that in both years in his letters, right? He's talking about this addiction is worse than slavery, right? And, you know, he was very anti slavery, right?
• 52:53
  I mean, he was a general in the Civil War. I mean, he was fighting again. I mean, he was super anti slavery. But he's like, Drugs are even worse than that, right? I mean, because you're just like, you're a complete slave.
• 53:06
  And and that's what they want to get with these intoxicants, whether it's alcohol. It doesn't matter. Some of them are prescribed now, of course. They get you out of your executive functioning from the front part of your brain. Apparently, that's where they say it's at.
• 53:20
  I don't know. And, you know, they want us out of our executive thinking and into our emotional world, into our, you know, basically so that we have no free will, to take away our free will. And that's why one of the things that Christian missionaries all around the world, they pop up and I got so many books on Christian missionaries, it's unbelievable. But they pop up all over the place in other books too. Like, here's the missionaries again.
• 53:47
  The missionaries are always standing against opium, alcohol, like the Spanish were poisoning Indians in Guatemala with the alcohol. The Catholics were like, no. Right? And Protestants, no. Right?
• 54:00
  The the Catholics and the Protestants have been although Catholics can go to the bottle too. But they have been standing up against poisoning Indians and Indigenous people. I haven't seen an exception. I've never seen an exception where they're like, hey, no, it's okay to go ahead and smoke some dope now and then. You know, it's like, no.
• 54:21
  They're like, that'll be a full stop. Not gonna meet you halfway. You know, you're destroying and the Chinese, they always play the victim. You know, the Chinese one of the things in psychological operations is to implant supplied answers into people's minds. Like Masako and I, we have a game.
• 54:37
  When one of us gives a supplied answer unconsciously and it comes out of our mouth, we're like, Stop. That was a supplied answer. Write it down. Study. Where'd this thing come from?
• 54:46
  Right? Because we're trying to find out, you know, find the firmware that's embedded in us so that we can scrub that stuff out, right? And one implanted supplied answer is, you know, it's about my freedom. You know, the dope pads are always like, it's about my freedom. Why do you want it's just the weed, man.
• 55:05
  It's just grass. First of all, it's not, right? It's just not that. What about alcohol, man? They always say that, right?
• 55:11
  That too. Didn't I just say alcohol too? And they'll forget that. Like, three minutes later, they'll be like, what about alcohol? And I'll be like, didn't we just discuss that five minutes ago?
• 55:19
  Can you remember anything? Look. Why am I even discussing with a dope head? Right? I mean, you are already captured.
• 55:26
  Right? You're already captured. Right? I mean, you are what I'm talking about. Right?
• 55:32
  You don't see it. You are exactly what I'm talking about. You're a fool. You are a doper. Joe Rogan is in front of millions of young people.
• 55:42
  Him and Elon, the drug head Musk, are on, you know, on their show smoking dope. And and people are like, yeah. But look at all the great guests they got. That's a supplied answer. You know how many times when I bring this up, people go, yeah, but Joe Rogan has great guests.
• 55:57
  Now I've heard that so many times. That's the supplied answer. Right? I'm like, okay. So here it is.
• 56:02
  We got this big smorgasbord of food, all these great guests. Welcome to my table, great guest food. And so all this great guests, all this great food, and this part's got a little drop of poison in it. Right? You know what I mean?
• 56:16
  It's like, you know and it's now for a break from our for our sponsor, let's smoke dope, Elon. Let's talk about mushrooms. Right? You know? It's like, let's talk about this.
• 56:28
  Let's talk about that. I mean and then they, you know, of course, they get millions of people in. I've had so many overtures to go on Joe Rogan show. I'm probably the only one who's turned it down repeatedly and publicly. I was on live with, Alex Jones.
• 56:43
  Now he's like, you know, he's we're we're best friends. We've been friends for twenty six years. I can probably get you on the Joe Rogan show. You can find this online. I'm like, I'm not going on Joe Rogan show.
• 56:52
  He's a notepad. You know what I mean? Why would I go on Joe Rogan show? Alex is just sitting there going, yeah, I think he doesn't go silent much. But, I mean, I'm just like, I am you have to draw a line.
• 57:03
  Right? And like those old mission I'm not a missionary. I'm not bible thumping, but I'm like them, man. You gotta draw a line at some point, and that that's a no cross line. Not gonna meet you halfway.
• 57:15
  Yeah. You can smoke dope half the time and be drunk in the morning, but not in the afternoon. You know? So, you know, look. Somebody just sent me an article today about some pilot.
• 57:24
  Alaska Air apparently was on some kind of mushrooms or something and tried to turn the airplane off while they were flying. Did you see that? I mean, apparently, just, you know, you didn't go to prison for it. They're like, oh, poor baby. You know what I mean?
• 57:37
  Poor baby. You should be hanged. You know, it's like, you know, I mean, you know, yeah, people they give they they, you know, that's another thing. The you know what I'm saying? I can't use the word right.
• 57:48
  My my my mouth is not forming the words. The infantilization of man, you know, it's like, he's 30 years old. He's still young. 30 years old. Are you kidding?
• 57:58
  Know, it's like 30. Listen. When I was 19, I was a green beret. If you called me a boy, we'd be in a fight. You know what I mean?
• 58:04
  It's like, you know what I mean? No. I wouldn't actually fight you for that, but you know what I'm you know what I'm saying? You know, it's like and it's like, what do you mean 30 years old to boy? When I was 20, I was when I by the time I was 21 as a Green Beret, we were training constantly to parachute into Poland to attack Soviets coming across the border.
• 58:26
  Right? Across a place called I did three years of training to kamikaze into into the backwoods of Poland. Not that there's any woods near Bialystok, but the but, you know, we were gonna parachute over there to to to to do all kinds of mayhem on them. Right? You think I'm a boy?
• 58:44
  No. I'm a straight up warrior. Right? And this is what I I got out of I got out of the army and I went to school, and I'm like, these people act like children. You know?
• 58:53
  We're about basically the same age, and they're acting like like literally like children. And, you know, of course, I'd just done five years in the army and four of that as a Green Beret and done all kinds of stuff. You know? And and so it looked very differently to me. But that's another part of the SIOP is to give people a break for everything.
• 59:13
  I remember two navy ships ran into each other off the coast of Florida. Wasn't it a submarine and a destroyer or something? I don't remember. It was two American warships. Right?
• 59:22
  And somehow they ran into each other. And I said I was with a family member in Florida. I said, well, either one or both of those captains is gonna be fired for sure. You know what I mean? And my family member's like, oh, you know, it was like, why are you so hard on him?
• 59:38
  I'm like, if a US Navy ship ran into another US Navy ship, either one or both of those guys need to be fired unless they can prove, like, their ship got hijacked or both of them lost steering magically at the same time or something. You know? If they had steering and they had you know what I mean? And then they weren't, like, you know, you know, basically taken over by aliens. Yeah, either one or both of them should be fired.
• 1:00:05
  Like, the question is, is it going to be one of you or both of you? Unless, first of all, provide me with evidence. Did something go wrong with your ship? Is there any extenuating circumstance? Because, you know, their due court justice has to be in full, you have to definitely hear their side of the story because it it could be actually something like that really.
• 1:00:23
  You know, if anything statistically can happen, it will. They may have both lost steering. You know? But, you know, but, again, there's too much giving people a break like like this Alaskan air pilot trying to turn off his airplane when he's on mushrooms, and you see people defending him like poor baby. He again, it's like it's time to man up.
• 1:00:44
  You know what I mean? Like, you're responsible for your family. I'm responsible for my family. Right? We're responsible for our selves, our family, our community.
• 1:00:55
  Like, we're responsible for like, the other day, there was here in Japan, there was a big, you know, announcement over the loudspeaker that some nine year old boy was missing. It was over the public announcement. Right? So my wife, Masako, called the police like, where is he missing at? What's going on?
• 1:01:11
  I mean, she's a big she got big audience here in Japan. You know what I mean? She can she can rouse up an army to go look for him. You know what I mean? I mean, we heard it on the loudspeaker, right?
• 1:01:22
  We have to be the boy was found. But I mean, but the point is, is like we have to take responsibility. If something happens in our area, it's like all hands on deck. I mean, if it's 8,000 miles away, there's not probably much I can do about it. But if it's right here and a boy went missing, okay, work is done for the day.
• 1:01:39
  Where's this boy? I mean, you know what I mean? If they're saying it over the loudspeaker here, let's go for a walk. You know, let's do our part. And and anyway, we have to look at the world like that.
• 1:01:50
  Things that we can affect, jump on it. And then when you're done, go back to work and, you know, forget about it. So, I mean but we have to look at the world like that, not in the world that we've been taught to be little children until you're 80 years old. The state has to take you know who talks like slaves all the time? A lot of the British.
• 1:02:08
  I love British. I did a lot of combat with them and whatnot, and they have some great soldiers. But they've been taught as a as a country, as a people, to be subservient and slave like, about always always asking permission, permission for this, permission from that. You know, Masako and I, we were at maybe a month ago or so. We were at a protest.
• 1:02:30
  We went to several protests in one day. It was an anti invasion protest. And we're at one. This guy from Wales shows up. He's probably in his sixties or so, he's clearly drunk.
• 1:02:41
  I can smell the alcohol. And I'm talking with him. I'm like, oh, boy. Here we go. So we're talking for a while.
• 1:02:46
  And then eventually he said, what do you think about Trump? And I'm like, he should be in jail. And he's like, that passed his, you know, his his purity test. And he goes, what do you think about the vaccine? I said, they're they're they're poison.
• 1:02:59
  They're killing people. And he's like, that's enough. That's enough. You're one of those. You're an anti vaxxer.
• 1:03:04
  And I'm like, I sure am. And he starts stomping away. And there was a bunch of people watching, right, because they were watching us talk actually politely up to that point. And I said this for the rest of the crowd, not for him. I said, go get your death jab, slave.
• 1:03:20
  You know what I mean? I was one of them to hear that, that you're not going to cow me down to take your little death jab. Remember when we were children, we were taught when somebody comes and pushes dope on you, don't be like little Jimmy and jump off the bridge with him. Right? And when a drunk guy from Wales says, you're not gonna be my friend if you don't take the death jab because I'm a slave.
• 1:03:44
  Go slave, slave. You know what I mean? And when they see you react like that, I'm not gonna talk about anything else. You're trash to me. You know what I mean?
• 1:03:54
  And it totally changes the tenor of everything. Men have to stand up. It's defense of our families.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying this. You're just yeah. It this is this is it's funny because I came in, I had this all these heavy topics, and I was kinda thinking about things and reflecting. As I mentioned, I'm kind of, like, you know, end of the American empire and kind of where we're at right now, and where do we go from here? And, and, you know, and also, as I was telling you, I, like, you know, my dad, I lost my dad last week to, to, know, turbo cancer, which has been, you know, wretched and a terrible thing.
• 1:04:33
  But there's something about for some reason this conversation has has me smiling and in such a positive mood. And, you know, because I guess maybe
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Because you're standing up.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Guess it's true.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: You know, are you guess it's true. The most dangerous thing we can do on planet Earth is talk into these microphones.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: There is nothing more talking into this microphone is more dangerous than going into the Darien Gap with me. I guarantee you. I've been across the entire US Southern border, nighttime, daytime, Mexican side, American side. Darien Gap spent a year down in Panama. Right?
• 1:05:06
  Spent years and more. There is nothing. People killed all around me many times. Right? Nothing is more dangerous than what you and I are doing right now.
• 1:05:15
  Talk talking under these microphones will straight up get us killed, especially about some of the subjects that we've talked about today. Look, the Zionist killed Charlie Kirk. We all know that. It's obvious, right? I mean, oh, can't say that.
• 1:05:27
  Well, it could have been Christian Zionist because, you know, Trumpy Bear is a Christian Zionist, right? Allegedly. He's actually, he's a narcissist. If you look at the nucleus of him, he's a narcissist. If Hindus were the most powerful people in the world, he would be like, know, worshiping Vishnu or Shiva, whichever sect was the most powerful.
• 1:05:44
  Right? You know, he would be if if if it was Buddhist, he would be Buddhist. He'd be wearing the orange robes. Right? I mean, whatever he is just a at at his nucleus, he's a narcissist, and then he wears the shell of what's going to benefit him the most.
• 1:05:59
  Right? But what I'm getting to with this is they will kill you. And Charlie Kirk, as soon as he started speaking up, there's people that say he's not dead. And as a first principle, I I don't objectively know if he's dead or alive. I think he's dead, but I don't know.
• 1:06:16
  Objectively, as a first principle, actually, I don't actually know. So he could be alive. He could be living in Alaska, as one Thai doctor told me. You know, I like, don't know. We were having dinner in Bangkok, and a Thai doctor is like, He's down in Alaska.
• 1:06:30
  I mean, not Alaska. He's down in Antarctica, living in Antarctica. I'm like, Okay, I mean, whatever. I have no idea. Any evidence of that?
• 1:06:39
  Is there like a zip code? You know, it's like, you know, it's like I was at 00000. And I know. But but I I don't know. Maybe he's alive, maybe he's dead, but whatever.
• 1:06:52
  His persona, his his let's say his speaking tour was canceled that day. And, you know, and immediately, the kayfabe got even more intense with the fake, you know, tears and jewel jewelry and and the whole I mean, look at the disgustingness around that whole thing. Know, people immediately grabbing for the bloody microphone, that sort of thing.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He he he went off script, and his his character was killed in the movie. Let's put it that way. If his body is still alive, I have no idea.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I I agree. I I agree. You know, that's my from from the very beginning of that, I I did a bunch of shows on it saying that this like, you know, you you see all of a sudden, these people that had, for so long, had distrust of the FBI and the government and, you know, you know, they look at George Floyd protests, it's a SIOP, and here's how it's a SIOP. And then this, it's like, oh, he was killed by a radical leftist.
• 1:07:47
  Lone gunner, radical leftist, reinforced the left versus right paradigm in America. Don't question Israel. Don't question our own intelligence agencies. Don't question the FBI. They're all on our side somehow magically.
• 1:08:00
  And it's just like, I I don't know. I feel like it's just like, what what world am I living in? That it just yeah. I mean, it's it's it's become crazy. It's become crazy.
• 1:08:10
  And this is actually again, where I was kinda reflecting on where America goes from here because it's like, you know, I mentioned, I I just, you know, last week lost my my father, and it was unexpected, you know, turbo cancer. And and, you know, he's amazing man. Like, and reflecting on him after he's passed is really I've I've this new level of respect for him. And he was almost like he's just you know, I'm not gonna go into that because it's not really relevant to the audience here, but just an amazing man. But, you know, he did what he thought was the right thing.
• 1:08:40
  Right? He's, you know, following the guidelines when you put protect others and got the vaccines and the boosters and all that because he thought it was the right thing to do. And, you know, president Trump who, you know, I think it he'd voted for at least the first term, had came out here, and this is his he was a great he was the father of the vaccine. And I see this happening, and now I see you know, you see there's all this excitement. Oh, you know, RFK is coming back in and Kash Patel and Dan Bongino.
• 1:09:05
  And and you you see her coming in here now, and it's just like yeah. I I think that what there's some very good things I've seen Trump do, but if I analyze them, it's like, I think these are the the manufactured crises. Right? The the gender stuff. These are all just manufactured issues, so we focus on that stuff, and so everyone's fighting over men in the women's locker rooms.
• 1:09:25
  Of course, it's like, hate that. I think it should be corrected. It's great that they're they're correcting those things, But let's talk about the Federal Reserve. Let's talk about the IRS. Let's talk about all the money going to foreign countries.
• 1:09:37
  Let's talk about the Israel lobby. Let's talk about all these other things that, you know, not to mention the vaccine. Right? And and now we've got, you know, Larry Ellison coming out with Oracle. You've got Palantir.
• 1:09:48
  You've got Silicon Valley that's building the, you know, the the technocracy, all buddy buddy. You got Elon Musk who's coming out, he's building his AI systems and putting chips in everyone's heads and building robot legions. And and everyone you know, a of people are just like, yay.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Elon Musk. Like, we really wanna get a brain chip by somebody who smokes dope on with Joe Rogan in a cloud of dope smoke.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Well, if it's the ketamine that worries me, it's like And he took It's like
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: And he takes ketamine. He brags about taking ketamine, and he took the jab. He took the jab. Right? He took the jab.
• 1:10:22
  He said he took two. Right? So remember, he said he took the jab because he couldn't go to his gigafactory in Germany. Right? He's like, had to take it to go to I'm like, hold on.
• 1:10:31
  Masako and I went to Germany multiple times at the same time period. And guess what? We don't have rocket ships. We don't have private jets. We went to Germany.
• 1:10:38
  We went all over Europe, and we didn't take the jab. So we're not that smart. We're not gonna go to Mars, but we didn't take the jab. But you did. Smartest guy on the earth who's a dope head, takes ketamine, took two jabs.
• 1:10:50
  Uh-uh. Listen. If I had a gigafactory worth billions of dollars in Germany, it would be like this. Hello, Germany. I'm coming to my factory on Monday.
• 1:11:00
  You can meet me at the airport or not. But if you detain me about that jab, I will close the gigafactory right then on the spot. Like, if I if if I'm detained about that jab for one minute, that factory will be get will be closed during the entire time that you're giving me a hard time. And if it goes for five years, it's done. Right?
• 1:11:22
  That's the way you play. But he didn't. He didn't man up. He's he's a he's obviously an actor. He's obviously a show.
• 1:11:29
  He's a condom like Trump. They'll just come and go. The he's clearly not what he's made out to be. There is nobody that's doing that sort of drugs, ketamine, smoking cannabis and all that crap, getting a death jab, marrying every girl that walks by him. Right?
• 1:11:46
  There's nobody that's doing all that, doing all these shows and everything else who's still doing The Boring Company, still doing Tesla, doing SpaceX, doing all these, you know, Starlink and all these different things. There's no way that you have the time or executive function to do that when you're not even smart enough not to take the jab or find a way around it. Right? And he said he got sick from the jab. Right?
• 1:12:13
  I mean, seriously, we're not as smart as Elon Musk, but we didn't take the jab. Right? And and and and we're not smoking dope and on ketamine either. Right? He's clearly, clearly not what he's made out to be.
• 1:12:26
  That's obvious. The question is, how deep does it go?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: And so I guess, I mean, you know, you've you're obviously a student of history, right, as has been evidenced in this conversation, not to mention all the other conversations we've had and and your work and everything. And you've not just studied the the rise and fall of empires and civilizations, but you've also witnessed and you've done the front lines of the collapse of countries and governments and everything. And, like, when you look at where things are at in America, you know, going forward, what do you see? Like, because this this is why I appreciate you too, is that, like, you're you're argue you know, you can say you're you're one of the most honest people that I know, but you're courageous in your honesty. Like, you're not ashamed of just, know, you're if you offend somebody, it's like, oh, I'm sorry you're offended, but you're gonna speak the truth as you see it and understand it.
• 1:13:18
  And your truth is based off of a wealth of knowledge and resources. It's not just what you said, you're kind of like your preceded answers of like, okay, Why why is the jab okay? It's safe and effective. It's like, well, That's not from you. That's from some propaganda, you know, campaign out of Fauci's head.
• 1:13:34
  Right? So
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, the science.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So when you look at where America's at right now, what I'm seeing is that I'm seeing this that I think I saw a recent chart saying that consumer sentiment is at an all time low, like, literally all time low in America. Like, people are struggling immensely to get by. They're losing jobs. They they they're having a hard time finding jobs.
• 1:13:56
  They're hiding their they're kind of completely losing the job reports because the government shut down. I think that they're hiding this, but they're also coming out gaslighting and saying, this is the best economy. This is the golden age. And most Americans, I think, are looking around saying, like, am I living in a different America than you are? Because it doesn't feel like that.
• 1:14:14
  Like, I feel like our country is is spiraling out of control. I'm seeing a technocracy see being built. I'm seeing the the tariffs that are making things more expensive, yet they're still taxing us, and now they're re taxing crypto and all this stuff. I'm seeing that massive partnerships being formed between big tech and, you know, companies like Palantir, you know, frightening stuff going on. I'm seeing all these different indicators.
• 1:14:38
  I'm looking around, and it's like, well, yeah, I'm glad that we got the transgenders out of the women's sports, but, you know, where are we going as a country? So what do you like, what are your kind of sober comments that the the average American needs to hear right now?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: It's clear clearly splitting up. You know, it's funny how some people go, why aren't you back in America? I'm like, I've been all over America, man. I've been all over the border from SpaceX to San Diego, the entire border. Right?
• 1:15:09
  I've been all the way down to Southern Mexico and Guatemala and Belize and Honduras and El Salvador and Panama and Colombia and all looking at this and Morocco looking at this all over the world. Right? I'm in Japan. Remember, I've written three books on Chinese information war because this place is going to war. Right?
• 1:15:33
  Japan's going to end up being in a war, too. And this is part of the war that we're in. It's the same war. Right? I'm looking at the same battlefields, whether it's the drugs that we're looking at and all these sorts of things.
• 1:15:45
  You know, there's over 20,000 cannabis licenses now issued in Thailand. That's where we got this for retail, wholesale, growing, transport, that sort of thing. 20,000. About four years ago, I think there was closer to zero. I think there was zero.
• 1:16:02
  And so this is all part of the same war. The information war, the SIOP, the drugs, obviously, economic war, the fiat money obviously will collapse. At some point, you're going wake up and like, Hey, my bank doesn't work anymore. And you either got the cash on you to get you to the next thing that you're going have to deal with, which is like gold or silver or whatever. Wherever you're at in the world, you better have some because that's your next fallback.
• 1:16:28
  But in the beginning, it'll still be cash. It'll just like your banks probably won't work, or it'll be inflated away. I don't know, for those who have enjoyed hyperinflation before, which I have, I say that enjoyably, I say that euphemistically. I mean, you know, well, it was enjoyable for me because I was earning in dollars, right? But when you go to places that have severe inflation, you see, I mean, it's a different world.
• 1:16:52
  And it's not a world that you want to live in, but clearly that's what we're going into. And so there's so many mechanisms that are unfolding here, whether it's the death jabs, whether it's the drugs, including alcohol, of course. Remember, the supply to answer, the bong monkeys will say, what about alcohol, man? Okay, that too. Okay, we'll say that again.
• 1:17:12
  It's all the same to me, whether it's prescription drugs like, hey, I can study more by taking this thing, and then I'm up all night going, you know, bouncing off the walls, right? You know, I know some very serious writers and whatnot who take those drugs. When they go to places like Mexico, they buy a bunch of them. How do I know that? Because they've asked me.
• 1:17:32
  They're like, Oh, you're in Mexico. Can you pick up some whatever for me? And I'm like, What is that crap? They're the first one that asked me to buy stuff for them. I'm like, Why don't you go get it, man?
• 1:17:42
  I'm not a drug dealer. I mean, if you're ivermectin or something, but even that I wouldn't trust now, you know, because obviously they've had time to meddle with it. But I mean, there's a lot of these different drugs that are either prescribed or whatever that are being used to diminish our capacity. And it happens as a group. Now, of course, we'll have people that say, no, so and so is super effective and he does it.' Okay, maybe there's an outlier or maybe you're lying or whatever.
• 1:18:12
  But as a group, it's slats against the wall as a group. Now, we're not talking about some individual who's still a super athlete or something like that. We're talking about, on the whole, our communities splat. Look at California. Splat.
• 1:18:27
  Colorado. Splat. You know what I mean? And, you know, I have a friend in Bangkok who talks about how it'll it'll be controlled. It'll be regulated.
• 1:18:39
  It won't get to the kids. I'm like, dude, I bought this in a store in a rich part of Bangkok. Why are they selling? Why are there so many bong store? Why are there so many actual cannabis stores in Bangkok, and they're really concentrated in the richest parts of town?
• 1:18:56
  Right? You think that's a coincidence? Hunter Biden, you think that's a coincidence? Right. You have to get a prescription now to get the marijuana and cannabis in Thailand.
• 1:19:06
  Right? So I walked in with Masako, and I said, I need some dope. Right? This is like a month and a half, two months ago. I need some dope.
• 1:19:13
  Right? And they're like, Oh, okay. You need a prescription. I'm like, Okay. There's literally a doctor behind the counter.
• 1:19:19
  Literally, a doctor behind the counter, like wearing his white coat and stuff. So he writes me a prescription for something. I've forgotten what it was. Probably amnesia. Right?
• 1:19:27
  And then he wrote Masako a prescription for anorexia, right? Didn't ask her a word, gave her a prescription for anorexia. Now she's Japanese, so she can't even buy any marijuana. It's against the law for a Japanese to buy marijuana, I mean, ties will sell to her, they don't care. But it's against the law for Japanese to buy marijuana anywhere overseas, right?
• 1:19:46
  Or to smoke it anywhere overseas, right? But it's not against the law for me to buy it. So we bought some, they rolled us up the joints and all that crap. And it when you smell it, it makes you sick. You know, it literally is something about it.
• 1:20:00
  Right? And then we made a video flushing it down the toilet later. But I mean, but the point is we both got prescriptions there at the cash register. But Masako didn't buy any. They're like, Are you sure you don't want to buy some?
• 1:20:12
  She's like, No, no. I don't want to buy any. They're like, Are you sure? You can buy it right now. She's like, No, I just And she paid for some other stuff.
• 1:20:19
  She just didn't want any dope. Right? She, you know, she did her thing, but she wasn't going to touch it. She wasn't any of that stuff. Right?
• 1:20:26
  But what I'm getting to is this first of all, this is let's call it sino, like rhino, Republican in name only. Let's call it cannabis in name only. Whatever that crap is, it's not those weeds that grow on the side of the road in Nepal, right? It's not that. It is something else.
• 1:20:44
  You can smell it. It's noxious. If you're in Bangkok right now, I'm sure some people watching this are in Bangkok. Go to one look, they come with like sort of like Uber delivery. I mean, literally, the motorcycle comes up, gets the dope, and drives off with it.
• 1:21:00
  Like and there's one of the dope shops is right next to a pizza shop. He's literally watched him. He gets pizza and he's getting delivering literally pizza and dope stores right next to each other, literally to the same guy. He's he's get he can't make up this stuff. You know?
• 1:21:16
  You can go it's it's the stuff you only see in Bangkok. But, I mean, literally, you can order dope on on the apps now. You can't make up this stuff. And and and again, the idea that this and and and some of the excuses I hear in Thailand from foreign white people is like, oh, it's only for the tourists. I'm like, okay.
• 1:21:35
  How does that make it morally okay? Right? Do you have any moral compass whatsoever? It's only for the tourist kids. Right?
• 1:21:43
  It's like, oh, it's for medicinal purposes. Bullshit. It's not for medicinal purposes. It is not. That's why you know heroin?
• 1:21:52
  The name heroin was invented by a pharmaceutical company. Unfortunately, I got that book downstairs, I think. In all that, the cannabis, the the the the the cocaine and all that stuff in the eighteen hundreds, because they were they had cannabis in The United States in the eighteen hundreds. It was always for medicinal purposes. Heroin was for medicinal purposes.
• 1:22:17
  All the opium that you could buy listen. You could go to one of those cowboy stores in Texas, get yourself some cocaine and some whiskey and some dynamite and a shotgun and some coffin nails and have a big old party. You know? Give me a keg of dynamite. Give me a keg of gunpowder.
• 1:22:33
  Give me some of that whiskey. It's July 4. I'm gonna need some give me some of that cocaine. Right? And can you imagine how many people just got blown to shreds?
• 1:22:43
  You know, here here, Jimmy. Be careful with this whiskey and cocaine and the dynamite. See you next Tuesday. You know, it's like, you know, it's like, Jimmy doesn't come back next Tuesday. It's like, you know, it's like, this is the Wild West, and and there's people that want it to be the Wild West again.
• 1:23:01
  And the the know, you'll get these things like, it's about my freedom, man. What are you gonna outlaw? A weed? First of all, you have to be on dope to even go down that route. You're actually the enemy.
• 1:23:13
  You're captured. You're a you're a alien zyborg or whatever they're called. Right? You're actually already so doped up. You are doing the bidding of the Chinese Communist Party who come across the we have records of 40,000 Chinese that came through, that we have.
• 1:23:28
  We had their their birthdays when they came in, what buses they got on. That's just Chinese that came through the Darien Gap. Just Chinese, just the Darien Gap. This doesn't include student visas coming through Canada, coming through Bahamas. They come through Bahamas a lot.
• 1:23:42
  Doesn't include the ones who just went to Mexico and skipped the Darien Gap or the ones who came to Guatemala and skipped. This is just the Darien Gap. We have over 1,000,000 records and over 40,000 of those are Chinese. Many of those Chinese are around places like Oklahoma, Oregon, Maine, and they're growing dope. They're growing dope, they're growing dope, and they're selling it.
• 1:24:03
  Now, a supplied answer is and they're also sending fentanyl in, right? Now, a supplied answer that many people are thinking right now is the Chinese are just getting even for the opium wars. Okay. How many times have I heard that? Because that's why I know many people are thinking that.
• 1:24:19
  The Chinese are getting even for the opium wars. Okay. Okay. Let's cease fire for a minute. So why are the Chinese flooding before the opium wars?
• 1:24:30
  We're already flooding opium around other places, before the British were doing it to the Chinese. And then when the British definitely did it to the Chinese and two of the opium and two opium wars, They 100% did it, but the Chinese were doing it too. So the so the Chinese were doing it for, they were doing it during, and they're still doing it now. I mean, I have this one missionary. His name is McKay.
• 1:24:52
  He was from he was from Canada. So he was in Formosa in the eighteen nineties or so. I've got I've got his book over there. And McKay was talking about how the wily Chinese traders in Formosa were bringing intoxicants in and just riling up the natives. Listen, the natives were already headhunters.
• 1:25:11
  They were already straight up cannibals. But actually, McKay, he was a dentist, actually. And he was a but he was a Canadian missionary. And so he's out with all these headhunters. And he's like, he's like, actually, you know.
• 1:25:24
  He he was trying to reconcile this. They're actually really nice people, and they're really family people except for the little headhunting cannibalism part. But then that, you know, he's trying to reconcile these things as many people do who travel. Like, I go out with wild Indians in different places. I'm like, mean, I I was out with the Taliban a lot, and I'm like I was out with they were mostly farmers.
• 1:25:43
  I was out with I spent two years in Afghanistan. So sometimes it was just me, and I'm out with them. Right? And at some point, I'm like, these guys are just farmers. I can get along with farmers from any country in the world.
• 1:25:54
  There's there's no no culture I haven't gotten along with farmers with. And at some point, I'm like, these Taliban dudes, they're just farmers, and they're pretty wild. But but they're but but you know what they want to talk about? The rain. They wanna talk about their cow.
• 1:26:08
  They wanna talk about their grandchildren. This one guy was showing me the aphids on his leaf, and he's like and I photographed it. I published these photos. He's like, Americans come with black helicopters at night. Where have we heard that before?
• 1:26:19
  He was telling me black helicopters at night. I'm like, I heard this a lot of times in America. He's Americans come with black helicopters at night and they're pushing these bugs out on our leaves, on our on our on our on our our crop, on our poppy. And I'm like, no. We're not.
• 1:26:35
  And I was it was just me and him. Right? And on this really dangerous part. But, you know, when they welcome you in, they're not gonna mess with you. And so it this is farmers.
• 1:26:44
  And and he's like and I said, we're not doing that. We should. I mean, you're growing opium. And he goes, we're we're not that smart. And they always do their beard thing.
• 1:26:53
  They always rub their beard. He's like, yes. You're not that smart. And he's like, oh, let's have more tea. You know, they love tea.
• 1:27:01
  They're always pouring so much sugar in it because you're a guest. So they're like, giving you sugar shock, you know? At some point, you're like, why are we even fighting these guys? They don't even want to grow oak poppy. The reason they grow poppy was because the when the Russians were fighting there, they came and destroyed a lot of their pomegranates and their vineyards and stuff.
• 1:27:19
  They make more money on pomegranates. They make more money on vineyards. And also, their children don't get don't get addicted. Anybody that grows the poppy or whatever drug it is, you always end up with some of that sticking to your own population. So the tally ban came in, they're like, that'll be enough of that.
• 1:27:35
  And they started hanging people that were doing it right. They were hanging people that were doing the poppy. And then we come in, and I'm like, it's like Wizard of Oz. I mean, there's like undulating fields of poppy. Like, you know, some places, it's just little plots here and there.
• 1:27:49
  In other place, you got the Erzgan Province. I'm like, seriously, where's the Yellow Brick Road? I mean, this is you know, when they fall asleep in the poppy, paparosomnifrum is the Latin name. Right? It's sleeping poppy.
• 1:28:00
  That's a papar papar a papar somniferum, sleeping. Anyway, but the point is the reason they started growing the opium was because, you know, the Russians came in, destroyed their pomegranate, destroyed their Karez system, which is their underground water systems, destroyed their vineyards and all that. And the poppy is very hardy. It's very hardy. And you don't need you need, I think, as I recall, about one third the water.
• 1:28:27
  And also, it's a cash crop, so you can grow it and you can harvest it now. And and also, this much opium is worth a lot of money. And if it freezes or it gets too hot or whatever, it doesn't matter. I mean, you can put it on the donkey and walk over the hills to Pakistan, Hindu Kush, which means the Hindu killers. You get that much opium is worth a lot of money.
• 1:28:48
  That much tomato is worth how much? Right? You know, that much grapes is worth how much? And not only that, but as soon as you pick the tomato, it's, you know, starting to wilt. Right?
• 1:28:57
  And the And so but that much opium I mean, opium, keep in mind, throughout history has been one of the monies. We always talk about gold and silver and copper. But also, opium has actually been a money, right, because it does last a long time. And oh, man, I wish I was in the other part of the library. I'll show you some of my opium weights from several 100 years old.
• 1:29:20
  Unbelievable. You know, by the way, one of the ways they measure opium weights in Afghanistan is AAA and AA batteries. They're like, wait. The triple a and double a's weigh different weights depending on if it's like alkaline or something. But you know what I mean?
• 1:29:34
  But, also, they use AK 47 bullets. So an actual unit of weight for opium is the weight of an AK 47 bullet. I can't make up this stuff, man. It's fascinating. But the reason they started doing that was because we destroyed their other or not we didn't do it.
• 1:29:52
  The Russians did it. And then then we started obviously not destroying the opium. We were obviously Afghans were telling me. They're like, Americans are actually buying a lot of this. And I'm like, I didn't believe it.
• 1:30:05
  I was in the middle of the war, and I was talking with DEA guys all the time. I'm like, something's not right here. You know, the Afghans are telling me that our government's buying this stuff. And, yeah, there you go. That's my weight right there.
• 1:30:18
  That's it. And look at that painting right behind it. That that painting is the is the American progress. Yeah. Manifest Destiny.
• 1:30:27
  That's it right there. And look, that's the three railroads. The Southern Railroad, the Central, and the Northern Railroad. And then to the right of that is the Mississippi River. This painting is from 1872.
• 1:30:40
  I got this in my other room. And the and you see they're driving the Indians, and they're driving the bears, and the guys plowing at the field. You see that little wagon closest to you is US under almost underneath her feet. That's the US post office. The book that she's carrying, it says school book, and she's got a star on her head for the new state.
• 1:30:59
  So she's going to California. If you look to the left, you'll see or in front of her, you'll see there's the Rocky Mountains and there's the Pacific Ocean. Right? Now, keep in mind, the reason that you see that Southern Railroad, the reason that we had the war with Mexico is we wanted to build that railroad. We wanted to that's why we had the Gaston Purchase and all that stuff.
• 1:31:19
  And that's why, you know, we took San Diego. And then we ended up taking Hawaii because we were then routes and resources. This is routes and resources. Right? Then we moved over the Pacific, and and we came over here to Japan, where I'm at today.
• 1:31:33
  And it's all been a process war. It's taken centuries, right? And that painting right there actually, I showed it to a couple of very educated American friends a couple months ago, and they had never seen it before. And I was kinda shocked. I I'm kinda shocked that every American doesn't know this painting very, very well.
• 1:31:57
  I mean, you've seen this before. Right?
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: No. This is my first time seeing it. I pulled it up earlier when you mentioned it, and I was like, wow. What what a it's an amazing painting. But this is my first time
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, unbelievable.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I studied fine art, so somehow I never came across this.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: It's, you know, it's a small painting. It's from 1872, so it's out of copyright. So I took it to Kinko's, and Kinko's has some kind of, I don't know, good technology with their software. And they can blow up photos and paintings that actually you would think would be attenuated, and they would be all grainy and stuff, but somehow their software interpolates or something. So I've got that blown up really big, almost life size, and it looks great.
• 1:32:43
  I mean, and so I you know, it's something interesting because I've got it in my my whole library is about war, actually. Like, everything behind you is about war. Although there's no and I've got three rooms of this. Right? I've got thousands of books.
• 1:32:57
  But none of it is there's no book on guns. There's no book on submarines or aircraft. Anytime aircraft or whatever pop up, it's just coincidental. Right? It's it's like because most of warfare is, you know, I did years going out in kinetic warfare and firefights and all that stuff.
• 1:33:16
  I did a lot of those things, right? I did it for years. But that's not where the big war really takes place. The big war takes place in our heads. The biggest war is SIOP, information warfare, Information the the top shelf in my other room is information war because that's the highest level of warfare.
• 1:33:33
  Right? Is information war and intoxicants. Right?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: So why these are so dangerous. Right?
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: This is it, dude. This is the cannon, and this is the real this is the real f 35. Right? Except it's not stealth. It's meant to be not stealth.
• 1:33:49
  You know? And and so intoxicants, information war, SIOP, of course, is a subset of information war. And so my books, my whole library, is old maps. It's old globes and stuff like this, and it's old it's about so many cultures, the Romans. It's about so many it's very detailed.
• 1:34:10
  But I think an average person could come in here and look at it and go, wow, it's a lot of old books. But somebody who's very, very well studied, and they would have to probably spend a few hours looking around, they're like they would probably go, somebody here is maybe studying war. But it would have to be somebody that's PhD level war thinking. An average person would be like, Well, it can't be studying war because there's no book on tanks. You know, there are some books on World War I and that sort of thing, there are books on actual wars.
• 1:34:39
  But that's because that is part of the wars, right, of World War II and that sort of thing. But it's not like it's a big, you know, there's not like cannons up on the wall. You could you would never know if you came into my home that I was a war correspondent. There's no way to know that. There's no way that there's no way because I don't At one point, Masako noticed that.
• 1:34:58
  She's like, There you know, there's no way to notice that you've ever even been into a war. There's nothing on the wall that's about anything about wars. Right? It's just a bunch of old American Indians. It's about Panama Canal.
• 1:35:13
  I've got so much on Panama Canal. Look at this. I had this painted recently in Panama. This is an old French bond for, you know, the French failed at the Panama Canal. But and I had this painted.
• 1:35:27
  This is the American Eagle fighting the Chinese dragon. I don't know if that'll come out well. Sorry. It's not not good. It's not it's not bright enough, is it?
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: You you can still see it, actually. You you can still yeah. You can still see it.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, so there you go. And, yeah, this is an actual original old Bond, by the way. And so, you know, because China and, you know, America, actually, I should have a I should have a Zionist. But what's a what's a good sign for Zionist? It's not the star of David.
• 1:35:57
  They like to make you think it is, but it's not. But this is actually a French bond. They had to sell different issues of this because they, you know, they well, they went bankrupt there. It's like the Scottish did. You know, I got books on you won't believe these things, man.
• 1:36:11
  I mean, when the more you study war and you study the actual occurrence of war, you start to be able to predict thing.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoyed the interview. But I've now got a short fifteen minute interview that's quite fascinating with a guy named Tom Simon, who is former FBI and a current, financial invest basically, he's a private investigator with a focus on financial crimes, talking about what happens when people steal one of your greatest assets that you have. So we'll be detailing that. Again, it's about fifteen minutes, so please enjoy this short little interview for you. Tom Simon, it's great to have you as a guest on the show.
• 1:36:49
  Thank you so much for being here with us today.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, Seth, thanks so much for having me on.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: So you are former FBI, which is I'd be hesitant about having a current FBI person on the show, but usually former, I can I can talk a little more openly to? But you're also a private investigator, you know, specifically focusing on financial crimes, which is, we'll get into that. But the one thing that we're really kinda honing in on today is literally how someone can basically steal your home from you. And, you know, you you we're talking before we started recording about kind of more libertarian mindset. And, you know, I I own my land, and I'm out in the country.
• 1:37:24
  And it's this idea of, like, this is my land, and and I own it, and this is part of the the fundamental part of what it means to be an American is the opportunity to even though, you know, with all the taxation, it's kind of, like, do I really own my land, or am I still renting it from the government until I die from taxes? But that's a different story. But the idea, though, that someone can literally steal your house is such it's so wild. It's almost difficult to believe. But with your background and with your current work, this is something that you know all too well.
• 1:37:51
  So why don't you just give us just a basic overview of what this is?
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: It is counterintuitive because we all go home to our house at the end of the day and live there quite comfortably with the knowledge that this is our home. You know, when there's a mortgage on it, like you said, and there's taxes that you'd have to pay, but ultimately, it's still your home. But the fact is that someone can actually go to your county clerk's office, a criminal, and file a document called a deed. And then what that deed does is it will transfer ownership of your home from your name into their name or the name of somebody that is working for them as a buyer, let's say. And then they can go out and get home equity lines of credit or loans on your home as using it as collateral from banks who just aren't paying that close of attention because legally on the books and the county records, the bad guy is now the owner of your house.
• 1:38:39
  And here's the thing, Seth, you won't even know this occurred until months later when the foreclosure notices start arriving in your mailbox.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: So, basically, let's just say that the guy, Sammy Smith, is a criminal.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: I think oftentimes these guys have fake IDs. Right? Either them or their their partner. They're they're working with stolen identities. Maybe they've even stolen my own identity.
• 1:39:02
  Right? But basically, what you're saying is that they have ways of changing the ownership, which is the deed in within the county records, which, know, I've bought and sold homes before. I know there's a process. You you go through a title company, they handle all that for you. But I know that when when getting a loan with a bank, the bank has to verify with the county that you own the home that Right.
• 1:39:25
  That you are working or that you're purchasing the home that you're getting a loan on. And there's a lot of due diligence there. And so what you're saying is that someone can basically which, I mean, it makes sense that it's kind of archaic that they can just go to the county record and file some paper. You'd think these things would all be connected, but it's like, you go to the DMV, you know that they're still in the 1980s and a lot of their technology. So they can go to the county play, you know, the county records, change or change that record showing that I no longer own own the home that they do, or some fake identity that they that they have taken owns the home.
• 1:39:59
  But then they can use that home as collateral to go take out a $400,000 loan on the home that I thought that I think that I actually still own. And they take the money and run, and then say three, four, five months down the road, the bank's not getting payments, obviously. I then get a letter showing that the bank is foreclosing on my home, and I'm saying, wait. I didn't go get a loan with Chase Bank. I might my loan is with, you know, the local company.
• 1:40:25
  Is that basically how how it works?
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You explained it, Will. I mean, the deed is the mechanism transfers ownership from one person to another. It could be a quick claim deed or a warranty deed, the title of your house is really what matters. And that title, if it's in the name of you and someone goes in and files a quick claim deed in the county clerk's office, moving that into the name of a homeless guy that they just paid $50 to or their own name, for example, they become, as far as the county clerk is concerned, the owner of record of your home and then they can go and get loans on it, they can sell it out from under you, they can do anything.
• 1:41:00
  And I think you touched upon something why people are so skeptical about that this would happen. The problem is, and I know you have a healthy distrust of the government and I appreciate that as a former government employee, I do too, but the county clerk's office by statute is not verifying the authenticity of these deeds that transfer ownership. Their job by statute is to simply record those deeds in the public record. And so that's the weak link in the chain that there's no one watching the store at your County Clerk's office to say that this deed is legitimate and this deed is fraudulent. Once they their job is solely to transfer that ownership according to the documents.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: And so, with your FBI background and with your current, you know, work as a private investigator, how common is this? Is this something that you know, because there's a lot of threats out there. It's like, someone could kidnap me tomorrow and and, you know, have a ransom on me. And there's lot of threats, but then you think, is that really gonna happen? You know, of course, I can get in a car accident or get struck by lightning, but I'm still gonna keep going on living my life.
• 1:41:59
  But with this title theft, I mean, how big of, how big of an industry is it and how common is it?
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: Anecdotally, I can see that it happens a lot because I do work for a company called Home Title Lock. We have analysts there that send me clippings of news articles and criminal charges where it's happening. And it's a long list every single week. The problem is that there's, with the exception of New York and Florida, there's no crime on the books anywhere called home title theft. It's usually charged as in the federal system by the mail fraud or the wire fraud statue.
• 1:42:29
  So I saw it a lot as an FBI agent, but there's no way to good way to index it. So it happens a lot. It happens a lot in like these crazy circumstances with these very sympathetic victims, but we don't have good numbers on it. The other problem is that a lot of the times when someone goes into the local police station to say, hey, someone has stolen the title to my home, the police who are trying to work hard to keep us safe often tell them, listen, I don't really understand what you're talking about. It sounds like a civil matter.
• 1:42:56
  If you're in a real estate dispute with someone, go sue them. And then it never even hits the criminal courts.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: I see. Which is kind of crazy because it's like, let's say, if someone stole my $10,000 tractor, right, and I went to the local precinct, They'd I'd file a report, and they would probably, you know, do their due diligence, and they'd be looking for this, you know Right. Certain model of Kubota tractor if they if they see it. They'd actually work on finding it. And if they found it, they would probably prosecute the person who stole it, and they'd get the tractor back to me.
• 1:43:24
  I guess seems like a very simple thing. Yet someone could have a a million dollar home that this happens with that literally, like, you know, someone steals my tractor, it's like, I'm gonna be okay. Right? But if someone steals your home, and all of a sudden, you've got foreclosure happening on your home that you live in, and that home, for a lot of Americans, represents the entirety of your nest egg, you're kind of up the creek without a paddle, right?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: It's a problem, right? It's a paper caper, and oftentimes, the police aren't super excited to work those kind of cases. Whereas like a CPA nerd like me that was hired by the FBI spent twenty six years working these type of cases. I like fraud cases. And you pointed out something really intelligent is that for most Americans, myself included, the equity you have in your home is your single largest asset.
• 1:44:12
  But it's kind of nebulous, right? Because it's an ownership of a property that you're not trying to sell that has a value that you know what the value is, but when someone steals that from you, it's just very difficult for law enforcement to kind of wrap their heads around this and act appropriately. It's getting better. I mean, we're doing kind of a public education campaign going on shows like this talking about it, But it's, it's still a problem, and people need to keep an eye on their home title to make sure it doesn't happen to them.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: And so you mentioned New York, this case that just happened in New York, where the AG James actually has now changed this, to make it, you know, a pro actually, prosecutable crime. Right? So Right. Can you walk us through, what happened here?
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. There was a realtor in Rockland County, New York named Oscar Deus. And what he did is he forged a woman's name on a deed. Her name was Monique Hale, the victim, transferring ownership of the house to Oscar's control. And then he took her house and even though she's still living in it and began monetizing that house so he could extract the equity from it using loans and other means.
• 1:45:21
  But the problem is this happened in 2021 and it took five years for a law to pass that was retroactive that they could actually charge Oscar with this. The problem, though, is that the federal I'm sorry. The criminal justice system is not really set up to give to undo the damage done. The the the criminal courts is not the proper venue to unwind this situation and get that house back into Monique's name or any victim's name of home title theft.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I see. And so what's crazy is that it's saying here, he was in he was in the Dominican Republic, like, at when this was happening. Right? So the guy who did it, it's it's like you know, so he doesn't
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: even
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: You
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: can thank him for that.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess you're right. Yeah. Actually, that's true because I'm sure that under COVID that
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: You would have to walk in, present a document with a notary signature, present identification, make it look real. Now ever since COVID, a lot of these counties are allowing you to file your deeds and transferring ownership of a home from you to someone else online. And so there's not even anyone watching the store at the county clerk's office.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Crazy. And this is and here it's saying, actually, this is just the latest example of a G James taking action. It says in in August, two people were charged for stealing the home of an elderly woman in Queens. In February, there's a charge against a woman in Queens for stealing the home and funds of her elderly neighbor. And and I've seen I've looked at this too because, when I was first investigating working with Home Title Lock, I was just, okay, is this is this real?
• 1:46:45
  And, yeah, if you go and you search, you know, title theft, you can see there's a bunch of news coverage. And and almost every time, it's it's like the gauntlet of difficulty if the person ever even recovers those funds. And that's one of other questions that I had for you with this was that we talked about this tractor. So say I had a tractor that was stolen. They're gonna work on trying to get you know, if if they catch the bad guy, hey.
• 1:47:07
  We found the tractor in his garage, you know, and they're gonna hopefully get it back to me. And I know, you know, if cars are stolen, those cars get parted out and everything, and your insurance will give you replacement because that's that's covered. But do people recover off of this? Like, if if you if you've, you know, one day wake up and there's a foreclosure and someone's got a half $1,000,000 mortgage on your home and they they took that money and that money is not even in an American based bank account anymore,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: what what Right. The trick is trying to restore the proper ownership of the home to the victim. And so there's options for that, right? A victim can hire attorneys and spend an absolute fortune getting civil attorneys to kind of make this thing right and restore that home back into it. And you mentioned home title lock.
• 1:47:50
  I I'm a spokesperson for them. They have a US based restoration team that'll do it for you with no out of pocket expenses for home title lock subscribers.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: And so it's just it's just kinda wild. But with with that process, right? Because I know that, in a different interview I did on this, they explained to me how like, let's just say that person loses their home. If they go try to find an attorney or find someone to help with it, well, for one, I think from what I was saying, a lot of attorneys don't even actually understand a lot of the specific mechanisms of how to get this back. Like, if you go to an attorney and say, hey, someone stole my home, they they they might be they'll they'll look into it, they'll do their best.
• 1:48:28
  But it's not something like, it's such a when you're dealing with, like, this complex labyrinth of documents and systems and deeds, everything, but you're also kind of going between criminal and civil, it's not easy to navigate. Right?
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. Like, real estate attorneys are very good at what they do. They facilitate the closings on houses and make sure everything is squared away with the title transfer and all that. But when something is done fraudulently, that requires a very specific set of skills that a lot of real estate attorneys don't have. So if someone is caught in the situation, they need to go out and hire someone to do that.
• 1:49:01
  You want to make sure you hire someone who actually knows this process and knows how to unring the bell rung by the criminal when they stole your home.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: And so, I want pull up Home Title Lock's website. And, so people the web URL is hometitlelock.com/seth. And, so I know they have this million dollar triple lock protection. So walk us through what does Home Title Lock do? Because if if I if I know correctly, they don't necessarily go in and, like, kinda put a wall up at every county office, making sure no one can steal your title.
• 1:49:32
  But what they do is that they monitor that activity so you catch it at the very inception of the theft, and you're then able to stop it. If so correct me if I'm wrong, also explain a little more about what how they work.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Let me walk through that. So it's important that every single person watching your show, Seth, monitors their home title with some regularity. The problem is you're gonna drive yourself crazy hopping on the county clerk's website you can take a look at your home title every single day to make sure no one has messed with it, no one has placed a lien on your house or transfer title from your name to the name of some homeless guy. So Home Title Act's gonna take that off your shoulders.
• 1:50:04
  So the first kind of piece of the triple lock protection is the monitoring. They're gonna monitor the status of your home title electronically. The second piece is notification. They're gonna let you know if anything should change on your home title. Sometimes that's perfectly legitimate.
• 1:50:18
  You go out and get a home equity line of credit because you wanna build a deck in the back or some kind of loan on your house. That's gonna trip up, that's gonna create a lien on the county clerk's website and you're gonna be notified and you can tell hometown a lot, no, no, no, was me. But you wanna be notified if someone, if a bad guy also is doing something to your house. But the third one, and in my mind, this is the most important is The US based restoration team. Or if the bad guy is somehow able to transfer that home out of your name into someone else's name and then begin getting loans on it, The US based restoration team from Hometown Aloc is gonna spend a million bucks in legal fees or whatever it takes to get that home back into your name, which to me is worth its weight in gold.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: I see. So that that makes sense. That makes sense. So, okay. So the URL, and I'll put this up in in the description for the show, it's just hometitlelock.com/seth.
• 1:51:11
  And if they use the or if you if you use a promo code seth, then you get a free title history report and a free trial of the triple lock protection. And it's I mean, to me, it's it seems like it's a I guess people are very familiar with identity theft protection Yeah. You know, services that you can sign up for, and they'll notify you if someone uses your Social Security number to open a credit card or a line of credit or get an auto loan. So it's kind of it seems like it's the same principle, except it just it's applied to your home.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: Exactly. It's the exact same idea, and God willing, you'll never need it. Right? But I have a smoke detector in every room of my house and hopefully my house doesn't catch on fire, but I sleep better knowing that that smoke detector is there kind of looking out for me even when I'm not paying attention to it. It's one less thing I need to think about.
• 1:51:58
  I'm a home title lock subscriber myself. Again, my largest asset is the equity in my house. I cannot afford to have that stolen from me.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Makes perfect sense. So, Tom, thank you again, for giving us your time. Make sure, as I mentioned, that all the links we talked about are in the show description. And, it's been nice talking to you, and I'm still kind of envious over your book collection behind you, which is, which is quite impressive there. So
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 3: Alright. Well, Seth, it's still great talking to you, and please let me know if I can ever do anything for you.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: Great. Thank you very much.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: Alright. Take care, buddy.