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Magic Performing Tips! #198 · The Magic Guys

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They're guys. They do magic. They are the Magic Guys.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 198 of the Magic Guys.
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Let me say it again. Welcome to the Magic Guys episode 198.
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To my left, we've got Nick K. I used to be in a band.
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Yeah, he did. down below we got doug khan
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nanu nanu yeah that's
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what i'm talking about and i'm josh norbedo welcome to the
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show where we talk about our lives as professional magicians and
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the crazy stories and stuff that happens along with
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it and boy are they crazy so first
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up we got to recognize our friends in the chat we do
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this live so that we can interact with you and bounce
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off your questions and uh nick who do
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we have in the chat today we have josh debito what
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are you doing in there you weirdo oh yeah oh yeah
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let me explain really quickly too we did have obviously
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everyone saw mr masato was
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going to be joining us but because he is so popular he picked up a gig for this
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evening in the u.s which i can respect and he's off to go make some money like
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we do this episode yeah let it be known if need be i'm prepared to talk about linking rings at length.
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That's a good ass point that's a
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good ass point on purpose and just be like we have copperfield coming
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everyone better be there and then it's like sorry man copperfield had
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to go do a thing but i'm here we'll talk
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about sexy dave on
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the thumbnail next week could we sell
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a show like that where we've sold it as
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david blaine and it's like i couldn't be there but nick case
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here don't worry you'll still see a banging show i've had scenarios like that
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where we'll talk about that in a bit i'm gonna write down a note to touch upon
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that and what that experience is like where they had a headliner famous comedian
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and then it was like by the way they're expecting him and no one knows he's
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not coming you're the guy so good luck.
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Oof. Yeah, good times. But like we said, friends, this is a live show where
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all the mistakes are live, so we're not perfect. And we know that.
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But we are here to dispense what wisdom we have to everyone in the chat.
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Starting off with Thomas Conger, Tim Askin, Scotty P, who has been doing some
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really amazing things as of late. So we're really proud of you, Scotty.
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We have a new face here, Sally Plannikik.
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Right on. And my good friend, Gary Davis. We also have Mike, who is not a stripper.
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Noah, the Magician Official, and Chris the Tone. Thank you, friends,
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for being here. It's really good for you guys to be in the chat.
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Again, apologies for, you know, things do change. It is a live show, but we do jazz.
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We make things up along the way. But fear not, we actually have so much to talk about today.
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And if you guys were backstage, y'all would have been in stitches because...
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Yeah, we're basically like discussing what of these stories can we say on air?
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One should be left. Now, let's preface that by saying that we're in the middle
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of December, and it is ultimately what is the busiest period for performing magicians.
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And it's a time where everyone is having their corporate Christmas functions,
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their birthdays, et cetera.
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It is just a busy, busy time. A lot of people delay their birthdays and things
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of that nature when a busy year end will do it at the end of the year and things like that.
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So between Josh and myself, we've done... Actually, I've done seven only this
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week. which ain't too bad.
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But that being said, I've given away a lot of gigs as well because it's just been so crazy busy.
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Now you experience things in this period.
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You also learn a lot of things in this period. And there was something wonderful
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that Josh learned backstage, which had me in stitches.
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Josh, tell them what we spoke about backstage. Yeah.
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Oh God, which, which story are you talking about? The, the one that starts with the G?
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The one that starts with the G and ends with Astro pills.
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All right. I'm just going to say it. Okay. Because maybe it'll help someone out there.
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Okay. So like Nick, I also had seven gigs last week.
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And let me tell you, when you're on the run and you're performing,
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you're really not like planning out how well you're going to eat,
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at least for me, I'm not really planning out.
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I can't fit in wonderful food.
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That's not going to make me have to use the bathroom, you know,
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especially someone with Crohn's, even though my Crohn's is under controlled,
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it still makes my stomach weaker.
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And so, you know, if I was to down a sausage roll at the, at the petrol station,
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you know, an hour later, that's coming out.
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Yeah. Let me say to your point in this time of year, it's the type of thing
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where it's like, I need to eat crap or starve.
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And we're basically talking about being able to eat crap and survive. Yeah. Yeah.
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How about going rogue at the gigs where you can hit the buffet table,
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maybe get an oysters Rockefeller in real quick or something like that.
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You know, you see that sometimes.
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Hold up, hold up. What is an oyster Rockefeller? I mean, it could be a char
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broiled oyster with maybe bacon. Is it got cheese on it?
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I don't know. I'm just picking fancy food. Okay. it is
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well i mean fancy food too like because it's unknown it's
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not it's not the thing you always have in your body it can
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it can mess you up anyway you don't go for the oysters rockefeller they
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probably got fruit you could
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go snag some strawberries you just
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have a nice bowl of leafy nonsense so the
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thing is so the priority is are the
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gigs you're trying to do and the food is kind secondary is
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what i'm getting at so because i
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know how my body is and it might decide
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that i need to find a toilet asap and
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i could be driving to a gig and that's going to be it's
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going to really throw off the timings anyway news flash
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you do not want oysters rockefeller oh wow
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doug's put a picture on the screen i want
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to explain what this looks like to the listeners oyster rockefeller
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looks like you have an oyster shell that's
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been left out in the wilderness to the
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point it's just grown moss what i'm realizing that's
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not doing the the dish justice that's not it's spinach is so it's it's what
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parsley and other green herbs and then it's butter you know and they're char
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grilled so do you eat oysters in australia is this common food over there oh
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we never heard of them back down under.
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I don't, I don't eat, do you have them? We just eat holy shitty grubs.
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What the fuck? Yes, we eat oysters.
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I mean, like they're growing in our backyard in Louisiana. They're wonderful.
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Yeah. We can go get them, you know, really cheap around here.
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Yeah. I put up in my story the other day that there was, they had a whole buffet seafood table spread.
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I don't personally eat seafood, but that's because my mom is allergic to iodine.
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So I never grew up with it as a kid and now it's all weird. And just two weeks
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ago, a client after my show gave me barramundi and I thought it was chicken.
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And that was a whole thing when I get into it.
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But this story is about how I just made sure I wasn't going to have any issues
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running from gig to gig to gig in this hot weather. And I'm trying to eat food.
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I got myself some gastro stop pills, which is these tablets you get from the
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chemist that just suppress your poops. Okay.
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Suppress the poops. people didn't you mention this for an
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air fly like a flying tip yes yeah
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nick mentioned it for flying yeah but what i want to suggest is if you're someone
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that has a delicate stomach it and or because we do get nervous doing gigs it
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helps me anyway i just want to say i got through all four gigs without pooping
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so i don't know if we have an applause for that there we do,
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did you upgrade your roadcaster is that right
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you didn't talk about this yeah we
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doug how awesome is that doug you
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can change your voice in real time i know that you're showing it off it is and
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you can also live cut out your swearing you mother i can't believe you said
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that it's very fun i highly recommend these and yeah because you can go when
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you're telling the story and then Karen said,
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well, why don't you let me shuffle the deck?
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And I said to her, you're not doing that.
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It does enhance the storytelling. Okay, guess your stop. That's my story.
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Out of the many stories that we have to tell today, that was one that did help.
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Well, we have a comment from Scotty Painter. It says four gigs,
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no poops, ready for big boy pants. I mean, that's a feat in itself.
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It is wonderful to not have to poop at a gig.
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And if you're like me, and I know I am, I don't know about you guys,
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but I just kind of go into field mode.
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You know what i mean when you're when you're in field mode it's just sphincter
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just says no yeah and you just end up like and you're just like all right we're
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good and then for me like it's either like the moment i get home or like the
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next morning after a sniff of coffee it's like hey we're full of crap and we're
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gonna deal with this now yeah it's kind of important i guess.
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The only thing i can imagine worse than this is being gassy while
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you're trying to perform and i have been there sometimes podcast come
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to okay let's let's yeah let's put a bowl on
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that but yeah but finish the note
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about it yeah well just like i couldn't imagine anything worse than just sort
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of like crop dusting through the audience as you're doing right i always try
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to hit taco bell before my gigs yeah that would that would suck all right well
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look talking about food okay let me just throw out this little tip here i've
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brought this up before but when,
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caterers when you're doing a cocktail party the caterers are
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always the battle force like
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we're always conflicting where they come up with canapes and interrupt the group
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you're performing to and i'm gonna make my own separate youtube video for this
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just so it lives in the ether and people can find it but i finally recorded
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the moment so i can show you what it looks like when you do magic off the canapé table.
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Carry around thing and you keep the flow of magic going
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instead of them stopping your flow you
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waiting and then having to try and restart so i've
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mentioned this before i would just pretend like i'm gonna take
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one of their canapes and then i actually produce a coin off the table and go
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oh yeah i'll keep this for later and this is it's a very short video but it's
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just the moment that i did that I happen to be wearing the meta Ray-Bans and
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I thought I should capture it. So here we have.
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I will just grab this one if that's okay. Just for later on.
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But thank you. You deserve it.
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Okay. I'll have another. I'll have another. Excellent. Thank you so much.
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That's awesome. Brilliant.
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Save that. Save that caterers. Those kind of look like oysters Rockefeller.
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Actually yeah they they probably are it's a
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small nothing moment but even at the end of it you kind of
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hear them tail off and remark about it like oh that's amazing nick's
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got something so food aside guys i mean one of
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the things i like to do is protein bars because you
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can keep a couple of protein bars they are long lasting
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you can keep a couple in the glove box of
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your car a couple in your magic kit and i
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think that if you are dying for a snack in between things to
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the point you're going to get the shakes that's a good thing to help bail you
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out because the protein does make you feel full for a while yeah yeah i've been
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getting the protein cookies that they sell at the petrol stations they've been
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pretty good there are plant-based protein cookies i forget the brand it's got
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two guys on the on the cover.
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Broke back cookies. Maybe we should have a magic guy's bar of some kind.
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Instead of a beast bar, it's like a magic bar. Magic bar. With some guarana
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in it to keep you, get a bit of pep in your step.
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Yeah. But anyway, I hope you guys, if that maybe is some food for thought,
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when the caterers come around and they're about to interrupt you,
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just quickly palm a card, grab it from underneath their tray or a coin or a sponge ball.
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It is it is effing
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awesome the amount of times people remark about it like
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wow how did like how did you do that how did you like anyway i've just all good
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things come from we should go back to developing this workout bar we could you
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know where you put the pre-workout in it you guys are always talking that stuff
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up and then put some of that no crap in it so you don't have to poop and then
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round it out with some protein.
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Can you imagine that? Can you put gastrostop in the protein?
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I've got some herbs I'd like to put in it just for my own well-being.
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Wow. This is, you know what?
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Funny. It's funny, but we could be onto something. It has, so it has guarana
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in it, which is like pre-workout.
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Then it's got gastrostop, but then it's got some carbs to keep you going to
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feed your brain and maybe low on sugar or whatever.
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Shredded pages from the Tarabelle books just to make sure that you know that's
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what the rap that's what the rapper is it teaches a trick on every rapper oh my god.
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Mm-hmm certainly for magic conventions
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that's that's awesome okay look we.
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Have a story we have some speedpipes one is from
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scotty p it's it's perfect to
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talk about in this episode and to set the scene he
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just did a charity event
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gala maybe two weeks ago and
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did some roving there and this is a story from that
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day i'm going to look at nick for the audio volume because we
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didn't test this but here we go hey magic
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guys scotty p again i have a gig story and
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this gig story goes for about two minutes so it'll
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probably be split up over two speak pipes but it starts
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with me approaching one of the tables and
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before i could get out more than my name a
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grumpy lady in her 50s let's call it karen
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spoke for the whole table and said quite
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sharply no I don't like magic keep going
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and pointed away from the table I tried to
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ask the rest of the table but she gave me another verbal shove
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along and not letting anyone else
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answer so me being quite a passive person and
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also relatively new to this whole audience management gig
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I just smiled and said to the table
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enjoy the rest of your night and then I continued to work the rest of the room
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I later saw that she had moved to another table and was being grumpy somewhere
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else so I went back to the table that I missed and said sorry I don't feel like
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you actually had a chance to answer before would anyone like to see some magic.
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Another lady at the table said she'd wanted to see magic in person.
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For as long as she could remember so i chose
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an effect that not only got her involved but also
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left with a souvenir stay tuned for
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part two so let me just say for the
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first part that was handled perfectly yeah you know
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the only thing that i would do is always give people
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an opportunity to change their mind and just quite politely say now
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if that's not a good time or something of that nature i go cool we've
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got if you change your mind just give me a wave i'll come right
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back folks and walk away that's the only thing i would have done
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different from nice standpoint but i
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think you handled it perfectly scotty let's see what part two
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has to say yeah i that's a good point i should
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open up part two and while i'm opening that you
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know and for being scotty's like fourth gig that
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is bloody well handled to to have
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the foresight to go back you know yeah crazy all
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right part two here we go hey guys
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this is part two of the story so i'm sure most
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of you know the routine but what she
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experienced was she signed the face
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of a card it was lost in the deck and she
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then got to choose a butterfly sticker from a sticker book
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that i had and she placed the sticker on the back
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of an indifferent card i then made the
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butterfly fly from that indifferent card back to
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the deck did that a couple of times before making
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the butterfly invisible and handing it to her she then
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threw the butterfly back into the deck and it landed on.
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The back of her signed card a simple trick.
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But it was the most memorable reaction of the night she didn't run around yelling
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like on social media reactions but instead she was almost frozen in disbelief
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and she looked at the card and just let out a quiet wow as she exhaled so glad i went back.
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Yeah, bloody well done, mate. Well done.
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How good does it feel, hey, to do those gigs and have those kind of wins like that?
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We forget that people just don't see magic. Like, they don't get to experience
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it. So, it's pretty beautiful.
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Yeah, can I, if I could add one more thing to that, is just that,
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like, I mean, Karen's situation is whatever it is, pal.
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But I will say this, like, I just hope you didn't feel any rejection from Karen being Karen.
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Because what you have is a gift and you offered the gift carries Karen was a
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Nazi and was like no magic for you to everyone else so that's fine but the fact
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that you went back and delivered that and gifted them the magic it's just a
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reminder to everyone who experiences anything like this that,
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you have a gift and if somebody doesn't accept the
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gift don't feel bad you still get to keep the gift for yourself and give to
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somebody who deserves it and when Karen left exactly what scotty did so full
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round of applause for scotty everyone show him love in the chat the guy's doing
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great give him some love that's the wrong one that's not how you do it josh.
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I'm so sorry hang on there we go there we go sorry yeah we got uh compliments on handling,
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exemplary out of the gate man i think that's exactly the way you should have
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done you know say all right see y'all later come back when the windows open
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and then on the way out what you do is trip the lady from behind kind of kick her,
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and she'll fall over easy yes from happening for future magi now for the broken and restored hip,
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Yeah, that's going to be, that's going to be difficult. You did mention you
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might take one swing at, you know, putting it on track instead of just saying,
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okay, so you might, you know.
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You know, there could be something, but you know, it depends on the person,
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you know, you can tell if someone's a fun hater and they're just going to hate, you just let it go.
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Nick, if it is a, if it is a 10 person banquet table and one person does firmly
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say no, will Will you still be like, and what are the other nine people vote?
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Or will you just say your line of let me know when you want me to come back?
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No, man, I'll just walk away and say, like, if you change your mind,
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you know, just give me a wave. I'll come right back, folks. And I kind of single
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out that person, but give them permission to welcome me back.
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And sometimes somebody will see the speak up over Karen, but Karen might've
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been somebody of authority in this group.
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She might've been their manager, their boss, their something.
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So you don't want to like, you don't want to create.
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Like you just, again, like it's the gift they say
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no you take the gift with you i don't think it's worth sort
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of pushing back because i don't know man like
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i would never force anything of mine onto anybody ever
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i wouldn't force my belief my kindness my anything like
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it's just not what i do like if i offer
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something and you say no it's cool man i can
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offer you 10 grand cash and you say no you're a dickhead i
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can offer you magic and you say no that's also a dumb thing to
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do but you made the choice brother man it's your choice and
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when everyone is having a great time you made
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the dumb choice good choice you know yeah the
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best revenge is when you absolutely annihilate the
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next table and they see how much fun they're having yeah and
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then you get them to say oh actually yeah
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you can come over here now that's when i definitely get
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that vibe like i'm amped up to do super good at the very
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next closest stable i can after that happens
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for sure yeah but like i said just as
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long as you're not experiencing the rejection like you're the gift
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bro you're the grip you're the gift and if they say no you still have it if
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i have a box filled with gold which is what you're giving these people and they
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say no you still get to hold the gold man you ain't losing they are remember
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that super important lesson yeah bloody great job mate yeah.
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We have one more speak pipe do you want to take it there or do you well i guess
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i've already opened the can of the box haven't i we have a speak pipe from speak
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pipe billy fisher wrote in and i think this is one that nick is going to really
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resonate with i'm going to play billy's question,
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here we go hey guys wish i had thought of this question a couple weeks
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ago but it just dawned on me i am
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having a suit jacket altered like just fit
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you know tailored to the length of my arms and
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body and with the shoulders etc and it dawned on
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me that if i'm already having it tailored why should i not throw some
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i don't know topics or i don't know i
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don't know what you would call them alterations in that are helpful for magic i'm
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only a hobbyist but between weddings and and christmas parties and things i
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go to where i wear a sport coat i know that this definitely could see some use
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i've already done some magic you know dressed in places and ways that i would
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wear this so nick you talk about magic you have built into your suit all the
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time i mainly do card magic,
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but other than just a few things i've read from like darwin ortiz or
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maybe guy hollingsworth about you would need alterations to perform certain
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things i'm not super versed in in what i would need i'm sure you guys have tons
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more knowledge than i do if you could give me you know ideas or places to look
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for ideas. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, great question. Great place to ask this question, Billy.
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Yeah, Billy, thank you for sending that question in, pal. Now,
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ultimately, it depends on, in my opinion, what you want to achieve with your experience.
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With your suit okay so dove magic is.
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One of the places that sort of has like the most gnarly of suit.
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Setups because you've got so many compartments in which you're holding doves.
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That's probably not going to apply to someone like yourself but if
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i was going to suggest anything just for the sake of having
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a utility in your jacket you were
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going to look at things like toppets i would probably suggest looking
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at michael lamar's toppet pattern which you
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can purchase you get given exactly what it
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is you take it to your tailor they pop it in it's extremely easy
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to do mine is based off his mine's customized
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but the thing is mine took seven generations to get right
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for myself and what i'm performing with
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it but i think that that would be a
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good place to start you can do things like double
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pockets which is not anything too crazy it's
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just quite literally put an extra piece of fabric in your pocket
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which would make it give you two separate compartments
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within a pocket that's pretty handy for deck switches if
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you're going to do things like that in the same breath you don't have
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to do that you could just as easily put a piece of
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cardboard a deck switches taught
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by sean farquhar so there's another couple of
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options there i don't know if sleeving is going to be
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your bag which is primarily what i do and why my suits
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need to be customized if you are going to go down the sleeving realm
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i recommend you look at things like rocco rocco sleeving stuff is covered very
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very well the probably the most recent one and easiest one to access would be
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the penguin magic lecture where he talks about how he customizes his suits the
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lengths that it needs to go to.
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What I mean by length is that all these suits go down to his first knuckle on his thumb.
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As far as length goes, they're five inches in diameter as far as the opening goes.
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So there's things of that nature. If you want to explore stuff like that,
24:39
I would recommend looking at that.
24:41
And then everything else is just sort of as you're going along,
24:44
you would sort of go, you know, next time I'm going to make a suit from scratch,
24:47
I'm going to have it so the armpit hole is a bit bigger so I can put things
24:51
down the sleeve, which is what I do with my suits.
24:53
There is pros and cons of that happening as far as your
24:55
suits wearing out thankfully i buy one or
24:58
two suits every year and i perform so often that i have to i literally wear
25:02
my suits out to the point it's like oh look at a homeless person if i wear them
25:06
for any longer than a year two at most so that's a good start as far as card
25:12
guy stuff don't do everything at once just do it progressively.
25:17
Get a suit every two years make an adjustment here and
25:20
there if you're going to just use the one suit you know depending on how much you
25:23
gig you can always go back and make a couple of alterations you
25:26
can sew pockets in yourself the one last thing
25:28
i'll leave is doug i'm gonna need you to remind me of the gentleman's name it's
25:32
like three names he's got a pocket in his sleeve here so when he lifts his hand
25:37
up the coin falls down and then he goes to retrieve it j scott berry is his
25:41
name thank you doug i'm glad i didn't have to come up with that i wouldn't have yeah j scott Barry,
25:49
if you have a look, it's the way that he's designed his topics.
25:52
You mentioned Rocco. He's done some interesting work along those lines using
25:57
magnets to hold objects in the upper part of the jacket. So after you sleeve,
26:01
the magnet keeps it up there and then you can release it later on.
26:06
I had a guy I wanted to mention there, as you were mentioning guys,
26:09
I'm just going to bring this up.
26:10
Carl Cloutier, who combines poppeting with sleeving for some amazing magic.
26:17
This guy, the stuff he does is incredible.
26:19
Yeah. I don't know. This is the best resource, but it's a good one.
26:22
You know, it's one of my favorites, super advanced stuff.
26:26
And I will say that there is a particular thing he does with his pants, his pant pockets.
26:32
There you go. allow him to do the most impossible cards
26:36
across and effectively without revealing
26:39
too much imagine a pocket that's just a
26:42
tube that goes from left to right so like in your
26:45
pant pocket oh yeah that's insane yeah
26:48
you can put the signed card you can like peg
26:51
the pocket and somehow it can trend yeah you know
26:54
who i saw recently who had a cool jacket thing jaffo jason
26:58
fields he does a routine he's done
27:01
it on fool us where coins vanish from his
27:03
hand and appear in his jacket pocket audibly
27:07
so you can hear the coins arrive in
27:10
a glass in his jacket pocket signed coins
27:14
one at a time there's the signatures bang
27:17
they're in it's in bobo's coin magic and he
27:20
brought it to life it's a great piece and the jacket is
27:23
very integral to the effect look at thomas
27:26
trying to just work nick up here do any of you do much
27:29
index work with suits don't get nick started come on
27:32
shut your mouth
27:35
thomas i will take over this podcast but then
27:38
on the on the on the complete opposite side of the world i don't do any alterations
27:43
with my suits and that's just because of the style of magic i perform and my
27:48
lack of ability to do what nick does so my suits are all normal you're also
27:53
too buff to get away with hiding anything in that suit oh thanks.
27:59
That's all we need to say about that then i wear vests and
28:02
alter my vest to accommodate different inside pockets
28:05
where vests don't normally have these things so in essence i'll have a five
28:10
pocketed vest where normally you'd be have two pockets maybe three at best so
28:15
question to you have you ever seen i think it's called a vortex top it that
28:19
it's a top it that's made for vests. You ever seen that though?
28:24
You know, I've seen topics that are built into the crevice of the vest.
28:28
So you're, you're ditching into the, into the V here.
28:33
Is that what it's doing? It's like, was that what it's doing in this kind of? Yeah.
28:39
Oh, okay. You know, it's also interesting boy here. This is a great one that
28:43
no one uses and really should a belly servant, which rests here.
28:48
Right. And, and ideally goes into your pocket. So now when you bring your gut
28:53
in, your hand can come back to your belly and ditch an object,
28:57
you know, into what, if you could consider half a coffee can,
29:01
maybe, you know, it would be like resting here.
29:04
That same idea to be brought upward to the vest.
29:07
Yeah. There was a belly servant. There was something that kind of never really
29:12
took off, which was Jeff Kaler's TKO gimmick, which has a kind of belly.
29:16
It goes into a belly if you will for retrieval which
29:20
is also a very interesting thing and that's not a suit gimmick
29:23
as much as it is for your shirt oh yeah right
29:27
that's a cool yeah so it's it's very
29:30
ingenious but it's something you yeah but
29:33
you have to physically sew it into your shirt which basically kind of makes
29:37
it redundant makes cleaning a little bit difficult you know because there is
29:40
a length of wire that's sort of stiffened and it's an extremely falling piece
29:45
of of magic it's very smart it's and very very very smart i will say when when
29:51
you say you have to sew it in,
29:54
when yeah when nick says you have to sew it in what it what you have to do is
29:57
you have to remove a button off your shirt and put it onto the the the piece
30:05
of gimmickry that's kind of all you have to do right because the rest of it
30:08
just go it's a little more than that if you're looking to have it.
30:15
Yeah i guess the tad more because josh and
30:19
the matrix i think he's got stuck it's a tad
30:21
more than that yeah but i
30:25
i guess i bring it up in a sense that like it's not transferable from
30:28
shirt to shirt that's all this is sort of what i'm alluding to there's
30:31
some there's some metal involved right yeah yeah some
30:35
wires yeah there is but look i
30:38
mean those those are some tips by all means we
30:40
have a discord you're welcome to match us you know like we
30:43
have socials you can scope myself out and nick k magic on instagram drop us
30:47
a line and show us what you've done and i'm happy to show you bits of my suit
30:50
if it makes you happy yeah i'm learning minimalism so now people can send me
30:56
messages telepath telepathetically i'm working that into my ovra.
31:03
Excellent. Am I unbroken now? By the way, I saw the chat say that I had a stroke and okay, great.
31:09
What I was going to end with saying is I much prefer Jeff Taylor's version one
31:14
of the TKO, the any card to any spectator's wallet.
31:17
That can go straight into a shirt. It can come out again.
31:21
And it's such a great way to hold out card or a bunch of cards or even your business card.
31:27
I love the idea of having your business cards in it. So seemingly when someone asks for a card,
31:32
you can just rest your hands come out and produce a
31:35
card give to them it's good stuff it's
31:38
good stuff all right look we let's go back to um to
31:41
gigs because we just had a flurry of them
31:43
and you know you can slip up and clients
31:47
can slip up as well when you know so much is being organized and nick you had
31:51
a phone call from a client thinking that you weren't where you're supposed to
31:55
be right yeah now dude i actually i felt deeply bad about this because it's
32:01
three things that I pride myself on as a performer is to be easy to work with,
32:05
be talented, and be on time.
32:07
And so when I received this phone call on Friday, I was on my way to do a pretty
32:12
large-scale gig at Marvel Stadium.
32:14
And I received this phone call from a woman who's like, hey,
32:17
are you here yet? And I was just like, oh, no, I'm on my way.
32:21
I have a six o'clock arrival for a 6.30 star.
32:25
And she's like, no, no, no, you're starting at 5.30. And I'm like,
32:27
oh, but no, I don't think that's, I'm on my way to marvel as we speak and then
32:32
she's like no not marvel you're maribyrnong state.
32:35
And I was like, that's tomorrow. I was like, it's happening right now.
32:41
And I was like, give me a moment. And so I pull up the contract,
32:43
which I always keep everything on my calendar, along with a physical,
32:46
like a PDF copy of the contract and so forth that I send to the client and everything.
32:50
And I was like, I'm terribly sorry, but the information I have here is for tomorrow.
32:55
You know, I got the email string from Kayla. I've got this. I've got blah, blah, blah.
32:59
She goes, give me a second. And she kind of came at me with a bit of aggression
33:02
because obviously I was supposed to be at her event.
33:04
She checks the contract she gets back to me and says yep our bad don't worry about it thanks and,
33:11
i was just like oh well i just wanted to hang up on
33:14
me and i was just like well wait that's okay just just contact me on monday shoot me
33:16
your email or text it back to this number we'll mediate
33:20
a refund for a portion of the booking just you
33:23
know we'll definitely get you sorted you know now i felt
33:26
bad about it obviously because they paid a
33:29
privilege for me and mind you this gig was an hour out of town which
33:32
was to my knowledge was supposed to be doing the next day so is
33:37
this a talent agent that booked it or client direct no
33:40
this was a client direct yeah and just to be very clear as far as my processes
33:46
go booking confirmation is sent with the in the terms of my performance are
33:52
on the invoice they're physically on the invoice in my zero i created a product
33:58
called terms and the terms,
34:00
all the details of your event, which is the contact person, my arrival time,
34:05
my starting time, my finishing time, like all that information is present on the invoice.
34:10
So if ever we need to check anything, it's there clear as day, right?
34:13
It's basically a product at a zero cost, but it's there for that reason. And...
34:19
I also contact people gone. These things end up on a calendar.
34:23
Can you talk about your process to put all of this in an accessible calendar?
34:27
And I think that'd be good advice.
34:29
Absolutely. So every time I get an inquiry, I try to gather as much information
34:33
about it as possible. And what I do is I enter it into my calendar.
34:37
My calendar being either like your Google calendar or in my case,
34:40
my Apple calendar, which also syncs with my Google calendar.
34:44
I will make footnotes of everything i've talked about
34:47
gathering much as much information as possible so
34:50
for example hey i got a gig here great
34:53
is this a residential or a or
34:57
a venue oh it's a venue oh great do you so then i
34:59
can get the address of that venue instead i'm just saying like oh it's a gig in sydney
35:02
i'm like sydney's a big place man you know like i
35:05
need to know where in sydney is it an hour out of sydney is
35:08
it like you know what i mean so how many people are
35:11
you're expecting is there any audio visual stuff is
35:14
there lighting did you want when you do a show great can you
35:16
put me in touch with the with the av tech so i can just mediate what
35:19
stuff they have that i could be utilizing for your show to give you the best
35:22
value so i make all these notes and then effectively once it's all locked in
35:27
i put the terms of the contract cut and pasted directly into my calendar and
35:33
what that also allows me to do once that's once the gig's been confirmed the
35:36
reason i do it like this is that if you're getting inquiries,
35:39
especially this time of year, I can receive multiple inquiries for clashing times.
35:44
The idea is, is that you talk to somebody, you quote them, you go,
35:49
no worries. I'll put a light pencil in my calendar.
35:51
In the meantime, if anything clashes, I'll reach out to you.
35:55
So when someone goes, Hey, are you available at this time?
35:58
You explain to them, you are one of three inquiries for this time bracket.
36:03
And it's also a means of them saying, like, I'm not disinterested in giving you any discounts.
36:09
You're one of three people who want my time right now. If you want me,
36:12
you can lock it in right now, you know, or you've got to say,
36:17
I just need to confirm with the person who tried to book me first,
36:20
who's dragging their feet,
36:22
you know, or not answering your calls or whatever it might be.
36:25
But just by having this physical calendar, which you should be abiding to,
36:30
the reason you want to do things of this nature is that you can put in the address of where you need to be.
36:35
You can set reminders of when you're supposed to leave to ensure you arrive on time. You can also...
36:43
Invite people to these types of things as well accessing the
36:47
contract you said you'll attach that you'll link that up
36:50
so you can look at the actual contract yeah you can
36:53
add physical pdfs to that
36:56
bracket as well so you can actually go in there look at your contract look
36:58
at all the things you're supposed to do because sometimes when you're doing events especially
37:02
large-scale events like like if
37:04
you're going to go to like an arena for example like if i was at marvel arena
37:07
there is one of nine gates you
37:10
can enter in through so sometimes you're giving
37:13
information where it's like please go to gate four talk
37:16
to this person a b c and d your green room
37:19
is located here that information is normally sent in the form of a pdf you can
37:23
attach that pdf to that calendar invite and put it there as well and also if
37:29
you're booking people like i am when you send these things so if i got someone
37:34
who's working for us like in our agency i send them a calendar invite and they've
37:38
got everything they need.
37:39
That's like a whole package in there of the person to talk to,
37:42
a copy of the contract, everything they could possibly need.
37:45
So it's just a means of ensuring that you've got a central point where you can
37:51
look at all your inquiries, all your confirmed stuff, times your on hold.
37:55
On hold means that the person wants to move forward. You've sent them the invoice,
37:59
but they haven't paid it yet.
38:00
So I put it in that state. So it goes from inquiry
38:04
to on hold on hold slash confirmed
38:07
and then paid and when it's paid it's like
38:10
you cannot budge from that time bracket
38:13
now let me tell you a story of what happens when you don't do what nick just
38:17
said okay because this happens me like this happened to me last week this is
38:22
what will happen if you don't do that there are sometimes just human errors
38:26
and even though i've been in this game for so effing long now.
38:30
It can still happen and it sucks.
38:32
But unlike it being the client's fault when Nick was just explaining,
38:36
this happened to me last week and I just had to own it. So I'm driving between events.
38:42
I've got like an hour and a half break right now before the next one.
38:47
And I'm like, great, I might just drive and get some lunch or something.
38:51
Next minute, it. I get a phone call while I'm driving, answer it.
38:55
I think maybe it's an inquiry for another event at Christmas. Great.
38:59
And they go, oh yes. Yep. This is me from this company.
39:03
And he's saying it like I should know who he is. So I'm like,
39:06
oh yeah, how are you going? And it's like, yeah, good, good.
39:09
Just wondering how far away you are, mate. And I'm like, and my heart just freaking
39:14
falls into my feet. I'm like.
39:17
Oh, this is such and such from, sorry, which company again? He's like, oh, yeah, this one.
39:23
Yeah, we've got you booked for 4 p.m. And it's 3.58 right now.
39:27
I'm like, oh, Chris, I am just driving, but let me just pull over for a second
39:34
and I'll call you right back.
39:35
And I look at my calendar and there's nothing for that time slot in my Google calendar.
39:41
But in my emails, I see the performance agreement and the invoice and him paying and all that stuff.
39:49
And the memory of that gig just floods back into my head.
39:53
I'm like, how did I just erase this from my memory that this gig was on?
39:59
Because I was doing gigs all day and I already thought, oh, cool.
40:04
Yeah, I'm going to time everything. I'm going to take my gastro stop.
40:08
This is going to be a good day of slaying these gigs. Meanwhile,
40:11
I've completely missed one.
40:14
So you guys i hope will never have to experience
40:17
this in the chat but like it's the worst feeling when
40:20
someone's paid you to be there to do magic and you're not there and
40:23
you just have no memory of it the cortisone just hits your body and you just
40:28
feel like oh wait i've got this built into this you just go fuck anyway um so
40:37
i i had to just call him back and be like look i'm going to be honest with you,
40:43
it is my fault that I'm not there right now.
40:46
For some reason, your event isn't in my calendar and I can only put it down to human error.
40:52
I'm so sorry. What I'm going to do for you is I'm going to send you a full refund
40:57
right now, but I'm also heading to your event right now, which I'll be there in 20 minutes.
41:03
This is on me, but I'm going to do a group show for everyone
41:06
and let's just have fun but i apologize again and
41:09
i'll send your money back and he fortunately was like
41:12
you know what shit happens that's really
41:16
kind of you to to give us a refund i'll see
41:19
you soon and we did the show and like everything was fine and the the email
41:24
i got afterwards after i sent him the refund basically said look you know thanks
41:28
for handling that so well thanks for still entertaining everyone look i'm sure
41:32
we'll be in touch next year and like everything just ended amicably and it was good,
41:37
but God, it feels terrible when that happens.
41:39
Now on the, on the plus side, I thought, damn it.
41:43
Now I've just, I've just made myself lose, you know, this X amount of money
41:48
for this gig, but something very weird happened. And I wonder if it's serendipitous to that happening.
41:54
The next day I have one event and it's on the Gold Coast.
41:58
So this just happened two days ago.
42:02
I go to the Gold Coast and I get to the Gold Coast like an hour and a half early
42:06
for this event because I just want to make sure there's no traffic issues.
42:10
The casino is right next to where this event is. So I go, let's just go in the
42:16
casino. I'm a magician. Why the hell wouldn't I?
42:19
So I go into the casino. I roll into the casino. I'm dressed up for my gig.
42:23
I leave my jacket in the car.
42:25
And I take out $200.
42:27
And I'm like, I've had a crazy week of events. Let me just enjoy some blackjack.
42:32
You know, this would be fun for half. I only have like half an hour I can allow
42:36
before I have to go to this event.
42:38
Josh has 16 reasons to gamble.
42:45
Admitting it is the first step josh yeah what's
42:48
your story well look that i guess there's
42:52
two versions of the story but the good part of it is i only had half an hour
42:56
so in the last two bets that i have guns yeah so i've basically worked my way
43:03
up to winning 200 right so i've kept my $200 and I'm up 200.
43:08
You're playing blackjack?
43:10
Blackjack. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm playing $50 hands cause I don't,
43:13
I don't have time to mess around.
43:15
So, so for everyone listening, so the $200 I took in, I've put back in my pocket
43:20
now and I'm playing with house money, which you, which is funny.
43:24
You care less about it because you didn't come in with it. Yeah.
43:26
So I'm like, I have to leave now, but I'm just going to bet this whole $200
43:31
on one hand because why not, you know, and it wins.
43:36
And I now have $400 of profit.
43:40
And the lady looks at me, the dealer is like, wow, you know, you won.
43:44
I'm like, great. And I got to take it. And I'm like, I got time for one more of this.
43:49
And I put the $400 I just won back onto one hand.
43:53
And I do the, like the egotistical thing where you stack it all up in one tower.
43:59
And she looks at me and she's like.
44:02
That's your money, you know? I'm like, yeah, yeah, but it's not really.
44:05
I didn't come in with it. And she's like, no, no, but it is your money.
44:08
Like you can leave with that right now.
44:10
And I'm like, why, why would you tell me not to bet?
44:13
What kind of pit boss is that? Yeah. And it occurs to me like this table has
44:17
been pretty hot, like almost this whole time I've been here.
44:20
It's like, maybe that's why.
44:22
So anyway, so now everyone's watching me with this $400 stack.
44:26
I mean, in the scheme of things, that's not a lot of money to, you know, most
44:29
gamblers but for me i'm like this is crazy anyway
44:33
so i sit i sit 400 on there black
44:36
one blackjack hands the dealer busts and i've now won 800 within like two hands
44:44
i give her the 200 that i brought in as well and she cashes me out with a thousand
44:49
dollar chip i cash that out and i'm walking out And I realize after tax,
44:56
because I get taxed like a motherfucker here in Australia, that probably is
45:02
after tax what I would have ended up with from that gig that I refunded the money to.
45:08
And so the week kind of balanced itself out still anyway, in a weird way.
45:14
And then i had the best gig ever
45:17
after that because i just rolled
45:20
in on a high like the magician that
45:23
just won money from the casino to then come and do an event where
45:25
everyone's like oh we should go to the casino after this and i'm like yeah i
45:29
was just there just happened to go to the casino because i'm a magician yeah
45:35
yeah exactly and so that was very fun i don't recommend always hitting up the
45:39
casino before your gigs guys but if you do the casino every day because i'm a magician.
45:45
That's right. We're always rolling the dice, baby. Do they have,
45:50
is there several casinos in Sydney? Is that like a thing there?
45:56
Sydney has. You're not in Sydney yet. Yeah. I'm in Brisbane.
45:59
We have one in Brisbane and we have one on the Gold Coast, which is an hour drive away.
46:04
So they're both stars. Jupiter's?
46:07
It used to be Jupiter's. Yeah. Now it's a star.
46:10
Yeah. So it's known as the star
46:12
now. Yeah. Like the one in Sydney and now the one in Brisbane as well.
46:16
Absolutely so yeah that was just a cool story one at the casino and that was
46:21
dope and it felt great and it was good and that's all good it's a good time
46:24
well let me ask a question actually gosh because you told me you did like four
46:28
gigs in a single day which is pretty phenomenal
46:31
i wanted to ask you do you do any costume
46:34
change in between that meaning do you put on a fresh shirt do
46:37
you do or do you just go like same shirt stanky because
46:41
i sweated my ass off from gig to gig like i'm just
46:44
curious if you if you do any of that or if you if you're
46:47
if you just stay fresh it's hot where you are it's why i ask
46:50
yeah no no absolutely so the
46:54
first two gigs was during the day where
46:57
it's hot and i know from scoping out
47:00
where their events are it's outdoors like it's undercover but it's
47:03
outdoors so it's not an aircon yep so i
47:06
yeah i have two identical black button-up shirts
47:09
i take them both i have an undershirt and
47:13
so for the first two gigs i'm just wearing a vest
47:16
over the shirt with an undershirt as well i get through those two events and
47:23
then i switch it out i put on the new button-up shirt and now i'm leaving the
47:28
waistcoat and i'm putting the the jacket on instead absolutely because by the second one yeah that.
47:36
Button-up shirt was getting pretty gnarly and you
47:39
just want it it feels good to like go into the next
47:42
last gig or whatever like just feeling fresh again so
47:46
absolutely what about special requests i've
47:49
had agents like i had i had a talent agent like
47:52
last christmas they're like doug can you can you wear a santa hat to this gig
47:56
and i'm like santa hat i got a red hat i'll wear the red that and they're like
47:59
all right yeah can you can you say uh ho ho ho magic christmas a lot it's becoming
48:06
clear that this man has booked me as a magic santa but doesn't want to tell me,
48:10
yeah had he done that i probably would have said i'm not doing this but yeah
48:14
i'll do it i mean like special requests to like dress it up a little bit do
48:18
you how do you handle that you know,
48:20
oh i do it all the time i did a gig just last week right to dress as a magic genie.
48:27
Is this an extra charge event in your calendar like
48:30
i just i throw like an extra 200 bucks on
48:33
top of my normal fee yeah where i wear a
48:36
costume i look like an idiot and then i get changed
48:39
and i go home like that's just yeah that could like
48:43
be repeat use boy like a one of like i'm not
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gonna be magic santa again you know i'm not gonna go oh no
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you have a costume shop so i have a costume shop that i go there i don't
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have a genie like i don't know i think kinky thing there we
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go the your world tips yeah so yeah
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set up a friendship with a costume shop just tell them it's an
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extra 200 bucks it's probably like 70 bucks
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to hire the costume i had to wear like basically a
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hat no shirt on just a vest but
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it's like a sparkly vest and then pants and
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kind of like a i don't know what you call it but it's like a like
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a garter almost but it's just a red silk that
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you put around your torso so you look like the like a
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genie yeah yeah and so like i had to wear that i think it was for like two hours
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that i had to wear that and it sucks because it's like i'm still charging my
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full rate but i got no pockets whatsoever so i'm just roving with nothing but
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three coins which i think actually no one coin i had one coin which i had stuck at my wrist watch.
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And one pack of cards and that was all i did i roved with it you
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know and i had this room 230 people at this gig and i
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was just like that that's all i can do but that's worth
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considering when you're charging for these kind of events it's extra
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work and trouble for you not just to rent the damn thing you
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got to return it maybe clean it you know yada yada yada so
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yeah yeah i love the solution yeah so just say like either extra 150 to 200
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bucks hire the costume and then you got to go do it you know but it's like and
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the thing is you can't like you're gonna get changed at the gig sometimes like
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we want you to dress up but there's no dressing room or there's no green room
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you're like you want me to rock up looking like a muppet and i've had to do like that you know.
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Just like a spaceman and painted in silver and just been like far out you know
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like or you've got people like me and will wear a costume even though i'm not booked for a gig,
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i went out this is what josh wears on tuesday i i went out and bought a minion
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costume because i had the day to myself and i knew that i had this idea to do
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it because i bought a minion deck of cards in Singapore at Universal.
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And so even though no client was requesting it, I went and got myself a bloody
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minion costume from the costume store, which I now own, if anyone needs one.
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And that was just for my own doing. But normally clients don't ask that that much.
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I had one event last week that just asked if I could wear red because that was their theme.
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So I wear these, it was like a pool party. So
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I wore my red cap and my red blingy shoes that I wear
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and showman which have like they it looks like they're like bedaviled shoes
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but i already had that stuff anyway and i was yeah
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it was it was easy you just
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triggered a memory pool party i did an event which was a 60th birthday party
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on the weekend and i gotta tell you this story because i feel kind of bad about
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it what happened was i was performing away right they booked me for a couple
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of hours of this event i was there from bang on 7 p.m and there wasn't a lot of people there now Now,
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when you're in those scenarios where someone's like, can I show you a trick? Can I show you a trick?
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We've spoke about this before. I'll be like, don't wash your hands.
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Your hands look gross, blah, blah, blah.
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But there was like, you know, and I'll just be like, and I just,
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you sort of play it off. But there was no one around.
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And I'm like, I think everyone's going to rock up late. And I thought,
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well, what the hell? This will kill six minutes. I'm like, I give him the deck
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and I'm just showing the importance of the deck.
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Don't put it in the wet patch on the table, please. Don't do this.
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Don't mess up my deck. Don't crinkle the cards. It's like, I got to use this tonight.
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So I do a thing and whatever else, this chick calls her boyfriend over.
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And he's like, I know a bit of magic. And I'm like, oh, no, what am I going to do?
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Like, idiot. Like, I'm going to crush this guy. So I do.
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I do my thing. And he's like, can I please, please, please show you a trick?
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Like, I'm like, I'd rather you didn't, man. Like, I'm getting paid a lot of
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money to be here. And I don't want to, like, maybe when I'm done,
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please, please, please, please, please.
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And I was like, you know what? Nuts. We'll do it.
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And so I see him do this trick. And then he gets the spectator, Angus, next to me.
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And he goes do this and just
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throw those out there it's when you
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hold your two fingers out bend them in like triggers because what
52:43
is he going to do he's going to do the trick that should never be done where
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he's going to slap the cards out of the guy's hand and i said don't do it don't
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and i held out my hand like don't do it don't hit him don't hit the deck don't
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don't do that don't don't and he just ignored me and then hit me and cards went over the floor,
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and I was like, damn it, man. Card all over the floor.
53:08
Guy turns the thing over. Everyone's like, did he just hit...
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I'm not using names. Did he just hit blah? And it's just like,
53:17
yeah. And I just went, I can't use those now, man.
53:20
No, I'll pick them up. And I'm like, nah, nah, you keep them,
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dude. Here's the box. You keep the deck. I'll go grab a fresh deck.
53:27
I didn't make it a thing. I want to be very clear about that.
53:30
So I go back and I'm performing to another group. And he comes over after he's picked up all the cards.
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And I just went to my case, grabbed the, I was performing with the red deck,
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went and grabbed the blue deck, went back.
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And he comes over and he's like, sorry, man, you can keep the deck.
53:43
And I'm just like, no, I can't use stuff that's been on the floor, brother.
53:46
Like, you know, and I'm like, no disrespect to the floor.
53:50
Like, it's a beautiful house and I'm sure it's clean. It's just that I don't
53:53
want people to be touching things that have been on the floor.
53:56
Like, I'm classier than that. And I shoot cards in the air. I catch them in
53:59
my mouth. I do all these things. I don't want to know like you keep it.
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I don't want it. I don't want it. No, no, you have to have it. I'm like, dude.
54:08
What is happening? I was like, I was this close to like off away from me right now.
54:15
And the guy who booked me was the son of the, of the birthday boy was like,
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I'll take him. Thank you, fella. He took them.
54:25
And then he pulled me aside afterwards. was he goes i just told him
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just leave magic to the magicians all right fella now i
54:32
don't know the status of this guy i don't know what his deal was
54:35
i think he was just a plus one that nobody particularly liked
54:38
because they're all just like we don't even like him he's from brisbane and
54:41
so that made me laugh oh yeah the reason
54:47
i felt bad was as i was walking about the party i
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saw him afterwards and he looked like he'd been visibly like
54:53
physically crying his eyes were just
54:55
like a mess and i was like oh no that's not
54:59
the customer experience i wanted and so
55:02
i i i spoke to the guy who'd booked me and i'm like man i i hand to god i did
55:08
not make this a big deal i just said sorry man i can't use stuff that's been
55:12
on the floor you keep it i'm gonna get a fresh deck i did not make it a thing
55:17
it's a two dollar deck of cards as far as like,
55:20
like there's no need to be so precious about it you know and he was like don't
55:25
worry about it like that guy's been doing my head in all night was the energy
55:29
he put out but i just couldn't like.
55:31
Fathom i actually spoke to my mentor about it you know what
55:34
i mean and it's just like it's just i think it's just what happens when somebody does
55:38
a little bit of magic and maybe used to get a girl in the past and then
55:40
they meet a real magician and then you
55:44
kind of like show him what a real magician is and
55:47
in that moment he had almost like an identity crisis and
55:50
just fell apart like that i wasn't acknowledging him
55:53
as something like it was a weird experience
55:56
and i want to know put it out to you two professionals like
55:59
did i do anything wrong was i a dick i don't
56:02
think i was i certainly didn't intend to be you want to make a grown man cry
56:06
this guy was like in his probably mid mid-20s possibly even 30 like he's a grown-ass
56:10
man i wonder i think we've talked about this before but i forget like we played
56:15
i've never ever done this but i don't hate the idea of having,
56:21
crappy second deck on me that is for spectators when they ask you to do a trick.
56:26
I wonder if that if that would stop us
56:30
having to you know get a deck destroyed every now and
56:32
then or worry about the trick they're gonna
56:35
sit all 20 times on the table when he was
56:38
insisting that you take it back like i don't want it you could have been like
56:41
oh man all right and then maybe that would have
56:43
not made him cry i don't know yeah maybe that
56:47
maybe that's what i should have done but i was like mid performance for
56:49
another group on the other side of the property on the
56:52
other side of the house and then he come in yeah yeah drunk and
56:56
emotional that's the thing he's trying to like make it
56:58
better and you're making it worse you know because he's like hey
57:01
man i'm sorry here you go and you're like fuck off yeah it's
57:05
in the middle of something bro like read the room you
57:08
dick like you know places that
57:11
you're just like an education and then he cried you know
57:14
it was a 60th birthday party
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i was two with old people like go away you drunk young
57:20
person you know like yeah but it was a grown-ass man
57:23
so i guess maybe i should have just gone thanks brother i appreciate that and
57:26
paid it off but you know yeah yeah or i mean or in hindsight you could have
57:31
gone all right let me really show you how you can do a trick take that deck
57:35
shuffle it like You could have
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gone into a thing where he, you know what the top card is or whatever.
57:40
And now you do it, you know, do as I do or something. Could be fun.
57:44
Scotty P sent in one more speak pipe, but I'll summarize it because he...
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Let me know he sent it in and just so he can squeeze it in before we end today.
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Scotty, thank you for sending this. I listened to it before the pod.
57:56
Basically what Scotty also said he has started doing, which is great for this
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tips episode, is if it's a banquet table event where you've got 10 to even 20
58:07
different tables, every table has a number on it.
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And that's so that the guests know which table they have to go to to sit at.
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And also so that catering knows which tables to deliver food to.
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But what Scotty said he did was he got there an hour early and he had pre-planned this,
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but he was going to do an effect similar to Angle Zero, where the corner of
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a card disappears and reappears somewhere.
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And he would get the numbered card and associate that with the actual numbered
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table so he could remember which piece of a card was on which table.
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Clever stuff. so he would he was saying that he
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he took the corner and he put it underneath the actual
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table the number stand that was
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in the middle of the banquet table so that he
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could do that effect on any table he wanted and he knew by looking at what number
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table they were at which card which gaff they needed to ring in essentially
59:03
fun stuff fun stuff and because only that table is seeing that effect happen
59:08
they're probably not going to put two and two together oh is it a four because
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we're at table, you know,
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if anything, you can make that seem more miraculous.
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Oh, you picked a four and we're at table four. That's even better, you know?
59:21
So great work, Scotty. You wanted to slip that in there because that is also a nice little tip.
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Yeah. Let me add to that. Sometimes tables have salt shakers on them.
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And if you're performing very early in the evening,
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well before food gets there, it's not a bad
59:38
idea to throw a little something in a salt shaker
59:41
and then going to that table typically it's
59:44
a good idea to also make sure that like the ceos in
59:46
that table you know do an angle c grab a
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salt shaker and get a bit of a shake and then you show it's gone turn the salt
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shaker around it's in there crack it open pour the contents you know what i
59:58
mean like because they typically have like cutlery and wine glass so it's a
1:00:01
little something i've done in the past you know here's the hot tip you vanish
1:00:04
the salt shaker into your new topic.
1:00:07
And then he back goes home with you as you take Wester's Rockefeller on your way out the door.
1:00:12
You walk away with a trail of white snow just leading all the way to your green room.
1:00:19
You just walk around just toppeting like the silverware and everything.
1:00:23
My entire kitchen has been filled with gig banquet wear.
1:00:28
None of it matches, but it's all real nice. Can you imagine messing with the event now?
1:00:34
Like you line your toppet with plastic.
1:00:37
And every time a canapé, the caterer comes up to you, oh, would you like one?
1:00:41
Yes, but I'll save it for later.
1:00:43
And he just top it like every little meatball thing they have.
1:00:48
And it's just all going into this plastic thing you can clean out later.
1:00:51
But that's... That reminds me of Mike Cavaney's act. Have you seen what he does
1:00:56
with someone on stage from their jacket?
1:00:58
No. I got called on stage for Mike Cavaney for this act. He borrowed my jacket.
1:01:08
And he says, oh, hold on a second. And then he goes, oh, he's doing something
1:01:09
in my jacket. He's like, what's this? And he pulls a fork out of my jacket.
1:01:13
He says, helping yourself to some of the tableware, huh? And he goes,
1:01:16
oh, hold on a second. And there's a spoon and a knife.
1:01:21
Starts dumping copious amounts of silverware onto the stage.
1:01:26
A drink bucket hits the ground. And then he goes, and hey, who ordered the chicken? And it's a chicken.
1:01:34
Oh, my. A live chicken.
1:01:37
So this is Mike Cavaney's closer, which I got to experience at the Singer Theater from the stage.
1:01:44
Wow. Yeah, that's impressive, yo. Mike Cavaney. It's probably in his book.
1:01:49
What's the name of Cavaney's book?
1:01:52
Yeah, Mike's never spoken about that, and I've jammed with him quite a few times,
1:01:55
but I'm going to bring that up when I see him next.
1:01:58
That's fun, man. Oh, it's hilarious. Oh, I don't want to blow it.
1:02:01
Well, once you learn the method, it's so, so.
1:02:05
Well, we could talk about off air. We can't talk about cavity methods live in public.
1:02:09
We're going to talk about it off air because it has come to the end of the show,
1:02:13
which means it's probably time for our final word.
1:02:15
And, Doug, it's been a while since you said one. I think it'll be fun if you
1:02:18
wrap this episode up with some words of wisdom.
1:02:21
Guys, thank you for listening.
1:02:25
I prematurely pressed the button. Well, we'll just politely say thank you for listening.
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And by all means, scope out Josh Nibito's website. Yeah, that's good.
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Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.
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But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys. Hey!