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Herbacides & What They Do with Andrew Dannanberger [5.3.25] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Garden America Show, the country's most to
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  Speaker 1: listen to gardening program. This is your chance to join
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  Speaker 1: us as we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: anything that has to do with the world of gardening.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Here's Brian Maine.
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  Speaker 1: John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on the Garden America Radio
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  Speaker 1: and Media Network.
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  Speaker 3: I think, Nan, you will probably edit this out when
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  Speaker 3: this goes to YouTube. But for those listening live, good morning,
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  Speaker 3: a little peak behind the scenes. Tiger's cracking up your morning.
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  Speaker 3: We've been off for a couple of weeks. Here, I'm
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  Speaker 3: Brian Maine. This was Garden America. By the way, John still.
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  Speaker 4: I think, what's that. I'm still a little off.
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  Speaker 5: Little that happens when we take a week off. The
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  Speaker 5: first couple of minutes of the show, you.
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  Speaker 3: Got to go with things out anyway. Tiger's to my left.
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  Speaker 3: John would be to your left, and then you would
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  Speaker 3: be John. John, you are to John's left, yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: you're to the right of John. On from you. You
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean, folks, quick talking, This is the
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  Speaker 3: best guy we've got. This is the best that we've got.
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  Speaker 3: After two weeks back in studio. Anyway, what did you
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  Speaker 3: do for two weeks? What did I why work during
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  Speaker 3: the week? Last weekend I slept in, did you Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: six o'clock, that's sleeping in.
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  Speaker 4: When the alarm went off today, I was in a
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  Speaker 4: dead sleep. Oh that's the worst I know. The night
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  Speaker 4: before I didn't sleep at all.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you've always been a big rem guy, haven't you.
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  Speaker 4: I used to like r EM a lot. I liked
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  Speaker 4: their early stuff especially absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah the right Tiger catch up. He just shakes his
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's a great ed McMahon, you know, shaking
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  Speaker 3: his head. Understands about half of it.
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  Speaker 4: We had some listeners. We were just talking about a
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  Speaker 4: picture that they sent. Maybe I'll put it in next
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  Speaker 4: week's newsletter. But they visited Tiger's nursery. Mission Hills Nursery,
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  Speaker 4: saw that picture. That was their favorite nursery.
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  Speaker 3: The Big Three were there, right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they went to that cactus and succulent Oh the yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I will have to do that.
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  Speaker 4: It was just such a long drive in today or
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  Speaker 4: this weekend, the Pacific Southwest District of the American Roads
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  Speaker 4: Society is having their convention and it's at the Ronald
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  Speaker 4: Reagan Center. In alkohoone. So this afternoon there'll be a
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  Speaker 4: rose show, and you can also go tomorrow for a
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  Speaker 4: road show and there'll be an Auction's not a huge
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  Speaker 4: auction like we usually have, but they're going to have
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  Speaker 4: a small auction. I'll be the auctioneer. If you come by,
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  Speaker 4: say hi, you're an alcohol Is when again? Tomorrow? Tomorrow? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow is the auction. This afternoon you can go and
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  Speaker 4: you can see the row show and you can also
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  Speaker 4: see the road show tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: Are they gonna have any speakers or is it just
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  Speaker 5: a show?
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  Speaker 4: No, it'll just be the road show and the auction.
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  Speaker 5: You didn't enter any roses this time around.
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  Speaker 4: No, because you know, to enter you'd have to do
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  Speaker 4: it on Saturday morning, right, and then you've got to
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  Speaker 4: come here. Leave you guys alone.
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  Speaker 3: You sturdy last Saturday, besides not having to drive into
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  Speaker 3: the studio.
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  Speaker 4: It was a long time ago, you know. I don't
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  Speaker 4: there's times in your life when you feel old, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if we talked. I don't think we
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  Speaker 4: talked about it last week because we weren't here. But
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what makes me feel older. This week
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  Speaker 4: I became a great grandfather, great great, So I don't
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  Speaker 4: know whether that makes me feel older or the fact
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  Speaker 4: that I have a son who's a grandfather. Yeah right, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that I think makes me feel older.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, well, I remember as a kid it just a
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  Speaker 3: grandfather or grandma was ancient.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know. You know what's funny is too, is that
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  Speaker 3: is that back in the day, whenever that was, people
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  Speaker 3: were a lot older, maybe mentally physically than they are today.
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  Speaker 3: I was listening to an old radio show, which I
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  Speaker 3: do at night. I love it, and it was an
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  Speaker 3: old Dragnet episode from the fifties. So I tuned in
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  Speaker 3: probably a couple of two or three minutes into it,
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  Speaker 3: and there's some guy talking like this, and he's talking
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  Speaker 3: to Joe right okay, like elderly guy, right right, And
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  Speaker 3: then he mentions that his wife had just died. She
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  Speaker 3: was sixty three and I'm sixty seven, Like what, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you're not eighty seven, ninety seven.
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  Speaker 6: But cigarettes, and well, the whole the whole point is
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  Speaker 6: is take a look at a nineteen sixty high school yearbook.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like thirty five years old. So something
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  Speaker 3: has changed. I don't know if it was the baby
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  Speaker 3: boomers in the sixties or whatever, but people just seemed,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you hit fifty or sixty, that was it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're done. You're done. So you got about eight years.
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  Speaker 5: To go, right and then over it's over.
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  Speaker 3: It's sober anyway. I hear what you're saying, John about that.
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  Speaker 3: The whole perception of of that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, like milestone, you know, milestone yet hit you Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 6: you know that age and like becoming a girl, rand
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  Speaker 6: parent and then you know a great grandparent. Those are
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  Speaker 6: those are eye opening milestones to think that, like, wow,
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  Speaker 6: there's four generations that lie right now or whatever it
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  Speaker 6: may be.
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  Speaker 4: Can you imagine what you would feel like if Isaac
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  Speaker 4: was a grandfather, right.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: He's he's barely a uh you know, human like in
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  Speaker 6: the sense of he's still just a child.
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  Speaker 4: Right, It wasn't that long ago. He was just a
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  Speaker 4: spark in your eye exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, it is. It is about perception, which
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  Speaker 3: has a lot to do with the growing plants and
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  Speaker 3: horticulture the things that we do, because you can look
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  Speaker 3: at generations of plants.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's amazing seeing a yard development.
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  Speaker 3: Did we, by the.
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  Speaker 4: Way, did we have problem with our audio for a
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  Speaker 4: second because Dana said that we cut out in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of saying where I was going to be tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I think because you've had a couple of swear words.
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  Speaker 3: We had to oh bit, I don't know. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I had to hit the seven second delay.
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  Speaker 5: We did.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe, but I don't see you now, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 6: I haven't seen an issue the things.
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  Speaker 3: It could be our Wi Fi at home as well.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, but anyway, if somebody's just joining tomorrow, I'll
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  Speaker 4: be at the Ronald Reagan Center in Elkoholone for an
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  Speaker 4: action so Rose Auction.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to come by, just say hello, right
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  Speaker 3: the Ronald Reagan Center, Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 6: And if you're looking for the information, it's the Pacific
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  Speaker 6: what like organization.
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  Speaker 3: It's a long name, isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you go to the San Diego Rose Society
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  Speaker 4: website you might find that information also. But it's the
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  Speaker 4: Pacific Southwest District Convention American Roadside. There should be a
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  Speaker 4: lot of good roses to look at. If you just
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  Speaker 4: like to look at roses in a show, go take
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  Speaker 4: a look.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of that, we'll go to you. How how are
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  Speaker 3: your roses this time of year? Great intil I.
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  Speaker 5: Can't go wrong right now.
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  Speaker 4: This is the time of year. Everything, everything's new.
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  Speaker 3: But oh I'm loving my lead. I'm a leaf guy,
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  Speaker 3: smooth bug.
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  Speaker 5: There's no disease. It's absolutely pristige.
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  Speaker 3: You're like you're describing heaven.
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  Speaker 5: It is it is it really is? You know?
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  Speaker 6: I mean I only I only have four roses, Orange Juice,
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  Speaker 6: Chrysler Imperial, a yellow one which I can't remember the
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  Speaker 6: name of it right now.
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  Speaker 3: And you have a Katrina, the katrinagg.
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  Speaker 5: Martin, Peggy Martin, and then John's no name that you.
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  Speaker 4: Had the orange one? Or did you juice? Yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: I gave you Marina.
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  Speaker 5: Is that the yellow one?
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't yellow. It's isn't Marina Orange. I gave you
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  Speaker 4: one too. You might have Oh, no, you did you?
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  Speaker 5: Did? I do have it? I do have it though,
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  Speaker 5: so I have five five?
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  Speaker 3: Wait, wait a minute, you kind of trailed off. Did
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  Speaker 3: I kill you?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: You did you trail off?
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  Speaker 7: For?
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  Speaker 3: Did you? I think you did? You assumed I killed them?
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  Speaker 4: What happened to the seedling I gave?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you mean that the spectemy seeds that we bought
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  Speaker 3: in a packet that seeds.
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  Speaker 4: But for Christmas, I gave you guys, Yeah, I have
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  Speaker 4: I have that. Do you have six roses? Tiger?
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  Speaker 5: No, that's including the five Let me hold on.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Tiger's main problem is that his hand only has five.
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  Speaker 4: So once you get over five, it's a problem. You
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  Speaker 4: got to move to the other hand.
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  Speaker 3: You can't kill something that never developed. That's a big debate.
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  Speaker 5: That's a big debate. Now you're getting political.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think we need to talk about what never developed.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, John, like my lemon spice rose, you were going
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  Speaker 3: to use it when you when you have a lack
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  Speaker 3: of picture one of these weekends.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we get this time of year. We usually have lots.
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  Speaker 3: We get a lot, and that's fine. We should Okay,
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  Speaker 3: a couple of minutes to the break, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: set up our interview John. The quote of the week
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  Speaker 3: which people are just not chomping at the bit but champing.
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  Speaker 4: It is that what it is?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: Wow, of course.
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  Speaker 4: So let's see we had the quote, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: Brian is from Truman Capoti. Name two books that Trumandy wrote.
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  Speaker 3: I know he was good friends with e Liza Minelly. Right,
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  Speaker 3: my day's at Studio fifty one with Manelli.
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  Speaker 4: So what did name to two books should come right
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  Speaker 4: to me.
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  Speaker 3: That was Andy Warhol Maybe I think cold Blood was
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  Speaker 3: a big cody guy. You don't remember in cold Blood, yes,
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  Speaker 3: But but the other one was Breakfast Statific. Oh that okay? Yes, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't that with Audrey Hepburn movie. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So the quote by Truman is that in my garden
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  Speaker 4: after a rainfall, you can faintly yes, here the uproar
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  Speaker 4: of roses laughing.
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  Speaker 3: That's well, well put.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't that a good quote?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Uh? Will our guests have any quotes today?
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  Speaker 6: Tiger, lots of quotes, lots of good information if you
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  Speaker 6: didn't get the newsletter.
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  Speaker 3: Who is our guest.
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  Speaker 6: We're having Andrew Dannenberger from fertile join us today to
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  Speaker 6: just clear up a lot of things that are happening
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  Speaker 6: new right in the industry when it comes to herbicides
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  Speaker 6: and secticides and what you need to be aware of
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  Speaker 6: being a consumer.
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  Speaker 3: Now, we talk about fertilome just about every week. So
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  Speaker 3: those on Facebook live, here is your chance with those
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  Speaker 3: fertilom questions.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Now, when Andrew comes on, you have to warn them
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  Speaker 4: that people have mentioned on Facebook that they're sitting there
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  Speaker 4: with pen and paper ready to take.
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  Speaker 3: No ready're ready to take notes to can hold on
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  Speaker 3: to every single word. So we are going to take
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  Speaker 3: a break. I'll be getting a hold of Bandy during
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  Speaker 3: this break to do stay with us. Want to welcome
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  Speaker 3: a BIS Talk Radio. Thank you. We had a replay
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  Speaker 3: last week. Thank you, Stephanie. We are back live in
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  Speaker 3: studio iHeartMedia and Entertainment Studios here in San Diego, California.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to take a break for Bistalk Radio back
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  Speaker 3: with Andy from Fertilom after these messages on Gardener Meer
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  Speaker 3: and bistok.
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  Speaker 7: With Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we are back from that break, one of
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  Speaker 3: the better breaks, if I do say so myself, I
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  Speaker 3: hope you had a good break on BIS Talk Radio
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  Speaker 3: Facebook Live. As we get things going.
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  Speaker 4: There's never a break that you can't fix.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what they say when news breaks, we fix.
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  Speaker 3: Andy from Fertilom is with us. He's back again, Tiger.
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  Speaker 3: This will be a good time to chat with Andy.
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  Speaker 3: And as John mentioned and I told Andy on the
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  Speaker 3: phone prior to him coming on live that a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people with pen and paper and even a pencil
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  Speaker 3: and maybe a keyboard to take.
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  Speaker 5: Me just auto dictate.
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  Speaker 6: Andrew Danenberger from Fertilom is joining us this morning. Our
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  Speaker 6: good friend Andrew. Thanks for taking the time to be
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  Speaker 6: a part of the show.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Andy, but right now, now we've got you, we
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  Speaker 3: call that operator error.
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  Speaker 5: Andrew, can you hear us? Maybe not?
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: The button will not Okay, the button will not have
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  Speaker 4: can we move beyond buttons?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: If we're talking about this before this show that you
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  Speaker 6: know we we should be passed button.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, keyboards got a sticky button. We can't bring on
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  Speaker 4: a guest because the button is sticking exactly.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Brian, Brian senses this is going to be
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  Speaker 6: a big issue, so you know it might take a
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  Speaker 6: little bit more time.
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  Speaker 5: John.
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  Speaker 6: You know, before we have and Andy join us from Fertilom,
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  Speaker 6: you know we're gonna be talking about herbicides and pesticides
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  Speaker 6: out there because you know, Fertilo being a manufacturer, distributor
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  Speaker 6: of all these wonderful products. It's good to kind of
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  Speaker 6: get the inside knowledge. Were you able to get it, Brian.
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  Speaker 3: Let's give it a shot. Andy, can you hear us?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I can hear you. Now all right, much better.
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  Speaker 5: That sense of relief from Brian.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, I have to tell you Andy and the rest,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pushing buttons. And I said to myself, which we
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  Speaker 3: should never do, what is this button? I wonder what
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  Speaker 3: this button will do in the middle of our show.
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  Speaker 3: And there you are, So take it away, Andy and Tiger.
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  Speaker 6: All right, Andrew from fertil thank you very much for
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  Speaker 6: joining us this weekend. Our listeners are excited to kind
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  Speaker 6: of hear from you wonderful products. Why don't you tell
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  Speaker 6: us a little bit about Fertilum before we get started.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, no, thanks for having me. I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: being on today. So yeah, Fertilum, Well, we're a seven
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  Speaker 2: year old company based in Texas and we sell lon
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  Speaker 2: and garden chemicals, fertilizers, pesticides, organic, all kinds of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: all sold through distribution into lawn and garden nurseries and
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  Speaker 2: garden centers everywhere all over the country. So yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: we're a big partner for independent nurseries and garden centers there.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I mean that's a big deal being a
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  Speaker 6: part of the independent garden centers. It allows you guys
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  Speaker 6: to have a great selection of products for regional and here,
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  Speaker 6: guys is a portfolio of products are can be so
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  Speaker 6: specific to certain areas that it's amazing what's out there.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I you know, when I look through your
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  Speaker 6: catalog and I I see repellents and things for elk
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  Speaker 6: or moose, you know, and you know, different stuff and
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, wow, I didn't even know that existed.
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  Speaker 5: And herbicides that kill, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Plants that I've never even seen in my life or
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  Speaker 6: heard or rampant in parts of the country.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's pretty neat for you, you
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  Speaker 5: guys to be able to do that specific products.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are, We're we We do make a lot
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  Speaker 2: of products that are regional, a lot of products very
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  Speaker 2: generals that you sell on a national basis. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's very cool. It's a it's a very interesting, very
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  Speaker 2: cool company. We're a big supporter shop smalls on a
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  Speaker 2: shop local as well. We won't find our products nass
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  Speaker 2: merchants that you will find them in any and every
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  Speaker 2: independent nursery and gardens in the cross country. Pretty cool
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  Speaker 2: to night time.
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  Speaker 4: No tiger, I was thinking, uh be yeah. Serving the
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  Speaker 4: independence allows them to get the feedback direct from customers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and just think, you know, if you have a suggestion
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  Speaker 4: for Miracle growth or a suggestion for Bayer advance, Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to be heard, you know, unless there's
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  Speaker 4: a million people that think the exact way, they're not
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  Speaker 4: going to pay attention. It's great that one company can
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  Speaker 4: focus you know, really uh.
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  Speaker 5: What the people want.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, gardners that are are really gardeners.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Andrews.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: You know, one of the products I want to talk
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  Speaker 6: about today is is herbicide because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 6: talk we're getting into the spring right now. You know,
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  Speaker 6: weeds are coming up everywhere in the lawns and beds,
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  Speaker 6: everywhere in your garden after the rains and how the
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  Speaker 6: temperatures have changed.
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  Speaker 2: Before.
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  Speaker 5: Let's let's let's just start off strong.
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  Speaker 6: And hit on the aspect of the life which you know,
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  Speaker 6: you you know, what went by the name around up
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  Speaker 6: before goes by a few other manufacturer names, but it
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  Speaker 6: was an herbicide in you know, specifically in California. They've
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  Speaker 6: you know, chosen to really restrict it. But then a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people are flooding the market with alternatives. But
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  Speaker 6: some of those alternatives are not as effective, not as
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  Speaker 6: not or I mean sometimes even not even as safe.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: So what are your guys's thoughts coming from a manufacturer
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: standpoint on what people should be focusing on when using.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: A nervous Yeah, well, first of all, we're not associated
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: to round US. I want to make that really really clear.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: We do make all kinds of herbicides, including Life the
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: State and many other products out there. But you know,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: first and foremost, you know, like most everybody should know,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: there's two ways to control weeds, you know, pre emergently
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: and post emergency. And so obviously we're kind of past
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the pre emergent part of it. Now, like you said,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: it's springtime. Everybody's got weeds, So now everybody has a
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: problem with with weeds and they want to do some
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: weed control. But yeah, as a manufacturer, you know, like
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I said, we do manufacture the State. We also make
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: manufacture glue faws and eight two four D ammoniated soaked
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: with fatty acids which is organic natural product, you know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and many many others, and so yeah, it's you know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: it just depends. It's all about education, depending on what
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: your problem is and what kind of solution you need,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and so we're all here to educate people on what
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: to use for the right problem. But you're right, so
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: many weeds out there at cracks and corners of your driveway,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: sidewalk in your lawn, all kinds of different ways to
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: control weeds. We have different, multiple applications to do that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and like you said, it's a matter of knowing
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: which product you use. Were Hey, we're gonna have to
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: take a break in about thirty seconds. But when we
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: get back from the break, Andy, I do want to
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: hit on that on you know, what products do you
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: recommend for people using in their lawn? What product do
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: you recommend for people using in beds? I know that's
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: always something that you know they have plant, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: not necessarily annuals or preneals, but plants, and then what
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: can they use and then you know, what kind of
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: product can they use just you know they have a
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: path or like you said, cracks the sidewalk. You know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: we get back any will Andy. I am antsy to
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: hear from Andy.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: That was a good day. We get back, good rebound.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And we have a couple of questions. I think John
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Carla's got a question. We do okay, so do you
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: stay with us that questions? Comments? Right? There on a
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Facebook page comments section, got to take a break from
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Bistalk Radio Facebook Live back with Andy from Fertilom. After
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: these messages, say.
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: With welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back. It is Garden America back from
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: that break here. As we continue, I'm Priban Maine, John
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Big Nasco, Tiger, Pela Fox talking to Andy from Fertilom.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: And we do have a few questions, but let's let's
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: keep rolling.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So, as you said, we're Andrew from Ferdilom is
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: joining us. And Andrew, we have a question that came
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: across on our Facebook. We're going to get to before
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: we answer what products use.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Let's see the first question is from Carla Huntington Beach Andy,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: and she says, do you have a product locator on
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: your website? She saw your products at Orange County Farms Supply.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: But it's kind of a drive.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: We do. We do have an applicator on ferdlome dot
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: com and if the retailer has signed up to be located,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: they will be on there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: All right, there you go, so you know, but I mean,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: you know, you can always call them to Carla and
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: just see if they have this specific product on their shelf.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: And that's always a good thing to do.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, I hate to say it about independent centers,
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: but because we are independent, we're not always as up
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: to date some of the other companies where it's like,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: I mean nowadays, on these mass versions, you go on
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: to the website and it's like on aisle four, shelf three,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: we have eight of them, right, and you're like, oh,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: that's amazing. They got eight at a at a at
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: an independent garden center. You might want to give them
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: a ring and say, hey, you happen to have this.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Product, and hold on, let me go out and take
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: a check exactly, take a look at check out.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: That's exactly the way it works.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: And there's only two questions they asked if you call
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: a garden center. The first is do you carry fertilo?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: And the second is if your answer is no, why not?
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: So hey, so andy. As I mentioned before the break,
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: a couple of different areas to use an herbicide. Let's
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: start off with lawns, because a lot of people are
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: getting into that lawn mowing long growing, they get some
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: weeds in there. What are some products that you guys
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: recommend for trying to scroll weeds in.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have. We have a few. So that is
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: uh what we call a selective herbicide, So it's gonna
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: select what it's gonna kill. Obviously, we want to kill
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: broadly weeds in the lawn, and so we have products
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: called Furtilo weed Free Zone, or there's another one called
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: weed Out, and these are products. There're sprays, there's some
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: different configurations. There's concentrations, there's ones you cant catch to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the pose and you don't have to mix at all.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Or there's our FW ones if you just want to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: do some spot treatment. But these are ones that are
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: safe used in your lawn and it kills all your
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: broadly weeds, STANDI, lions, Spurge solus. You know, the list
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: goes on and on. You also have another one called
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: weed Out with crabgrass control. And as we get into summer,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the crab grass starts to creeping in and so this
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: one actually knows how to identify the difference between one
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: grass and another has a product, has a product and
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: they're called or a chemical and they're called quin chlorac.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And this actually knows how to tell the difference between
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: one grass and another grass, so it will kill your
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: crab grass, not your lawns. But we've Prezone is a
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: great product all around. Use products used in your lawn
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: kills all your broadly weeds, and even right now when
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the temperatures are still kind of cool and maybe some
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: areas across the country you can actually use it in
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: cooler temperatures.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: And now you know, usually a herbicide you want the
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: area to be not watered for a while afterwards, you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: with wonds constantly having to water. Then what are some
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: good product they model on before they apply these and then.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Apply Yeah, the best the best practice is you know
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you want as much weed leaf surface there so that
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: when you do pray put an herbicide on there, that
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: it actually goes onto the leaf surface fills it. There's
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: also weed and feeds out there too, no matter what
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: kind of brand. We have one called high Heeled Weed
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and Feed. This one is really really important. Where you
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: want your lawn long shaggy wet as well as the weeds.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: You want it long shaggy wet, and you'll apply the
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: weed and feed when the grass is dewy or wet,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and then you can beat it and then the next
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: day you water the fertilizer part in a lot of
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: people make a mistake of applying a granular weed and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: feed and they water it in instantly. And so the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: trick is apply it weeds are long and shaggy, and
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the next day while the fertilizer part in, because you
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: want to allow the herbicide get on the weed leaf
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: surface and get into the weed to kill it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Good to do You have another question, John, what Andy
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: is talking about Kevin and Quartalaine, Idaho. He says he
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: wants to know will his cat or dog gets sick
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: if they eat any of the grass after it's been
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: treated with any of the herbicides.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Typically know once the after you spray the herbicide goes
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: into the plant and and it dries on the weed
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: on the plant's surface and goes into the weed. Typically
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: know it will not hurt. I would not recommend doing that,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: but typically no, it won't won't harm the pet or kids.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: And you definitely want to leave the pets indoors.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Well it's drying, maybe a day or so afterwards, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: then and then you can allow your pet or gets
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: to go on.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, As a general rule, most extacizies they they then
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: they become safe.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: So it's just better keep everybody off until it does.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there and every chemical is different too. It's
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: super important to read the label. There's many labels out
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: there and they're all different, but make sure you do
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: be the label mixture. Sometimes it maybe you know, a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: few days. Typically it's within a day or so, or
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: after it's dry.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Everybody thought of combining an herbicide with a flea control,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: so if you let the dog out while it was
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: still wet and hey, uh, Andrew, we also have Millie
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: and no Pomo California. She wants to know if there's
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: if you have a product that will control harvesting our listen.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Harvest or ants are called that because they select seeds
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: to feed on. But what they sting? You know, they're
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: they're not pleasant if you get.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, harvester ants and ants in general. I mean, we
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: have a few products. We have one that's just called
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: antwar granules. It's actually has bipendron in it, and I
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: believe harvester answer on that label. We have some other
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: products too that are not registered in California. We have
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: one called thirty eight plus. It's a methrone that works
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: great on harvester ants, right, So.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Moving on to weed control.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: Uh now, well let's talk about like some beds, because
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: that's another area where people have plants, but then they
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: have weeds in between their plants, and they get real
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: worried about applying products because they don't know if it's
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: going to affect the plants next to them. What are
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: some products that you maybe would recommend for people to
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: who they have.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a product called Furtleam over the top
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and this one only kills Now, this one is opposite
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: of what I was talking to you about earlier, like
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: weed free zone or weed out that kills broadley fweeds
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: in the lawn. This one is opposite. It kills grassy
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: weeds in ornamentals. So you can actually spray this in
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: your ornamentals shrubs and trees and plants and it won't
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: kill them, but it'll kill the grassy weeds. The grassy
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: weeds only. But for instance, let's say you have broadly
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: feeds growing into ornamentals, that's going to be a handfuler.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, unless you're careful with the herbicide and not
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: you know, pray those plants that you want to keep.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: So Let's say somebody had a mayapoora groundcover Paine Roseman,
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: and you had a bunch of grassy weeds coming up
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: in that groundcover. This over the top product, you kids
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: kind of spray those grassy weeds in there. It would
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: kill it without affecting the myapor.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: App Absolutely, it will not kill the maa forum. What
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: it does is that the herb sized technology and herb
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: sizes are amazing actually, because think of a grass, the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: veins are parallel with each other, considered a monocot or
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: monocotla right, and then other plants like let's say a
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: maple leaf, the veins are all in different directions that
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: are the die coot. So the herbicizes know how to
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: tell the difference between a monocott and the die cot.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: So that's how sophisticated it is. And so when you
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: use uh like over the top sort of over the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: top on a groundcover that is a die cot and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: knows how to control the grass beaves that are growing
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: in ah perfect.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: Now, Now what about ice plant? Could that this over
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: the top product we used in icelands?
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, those you know over the top and and I'm
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: sure you guys have a list of all the plants.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Stay yeah, Delius. All right, Hey, we're gonna have to
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: take another break here. Andy.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: In about thirty seconds. When we get back, we will
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: hit the last little area of herbicides where you just
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: you just want to get weeds out. You know, maybe
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: you've got a pathway, maybe you have a driveway. There's
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: not a lot of plants in the area. How do
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: you keep those areas for you get back, we'll continue
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: chatting with Andrew from Fertilo.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: You've got a lot of good questions and we do
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: thank you for tuning in. Andrew from Fertilo. I'm Brian Maine,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Tiger Palafox, John mcnasco. Gonna take a break from BizTalk.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Ready you also back on Facebook Live Busday.
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: When welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, we are back and for those that are tuned
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: in on BIS Talk Radio, this would be the final
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: segment of our number one two hours throughout the BIS
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Talk Radio network. Hopefully you can catch the second hour.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Both one or two is just fine. You don't want
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: to miss any great information. As we talked about the
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: fine fertile on products here with Andrew from Fertilome Tiger.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Andy, before we move on, I did want
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: to just hit because fertil Home is a a brand
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: name that you guys operate under, and then there's High
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: You as well, because depending on where people are listening
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: and depending on what people are accustomed to find, they
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: might not realize that you guys are one and the same, right.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we actually have three brands. There's Fertilom, which
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: is kind of our premium brand. We have Fertilom Green,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: which is our premium natural organic product. And then we
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: have High Yields, which we consider our fighter brand. They're
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: kind of just basic but lower price point. And so
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: we have those three brands and they're out there and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: all the independent nurses and garden centers. So yeah, those
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: are brands that we have.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Thanks for clearing that up.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Do we have a question, John, Oh, I'm not sure
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: how how you're scheduled, how much time we have, but
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: we'll see if we can get some of them really quick.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: First of all, probably wants to give Andy props on
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: explanation of die cuts versus cuts.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's good, Yeah, very helpful sometimes.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes that you know you get into the horticulture
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: side of it, and it might throw people off. But
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: if people I try to make it understandable as much
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: as possible, did a good job.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Okay. Then also John in Newport Beach wants to know
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: if there's any other pre emergence that you were discussing
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: that could be used in a vegetable guard.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's a great question. So High Yield on
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a High Yield brand, we have two products. One's called
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Turf and Ornamental whaed and grass Stopper. It has dimension
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: in it. And then we have another one called Herbside
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Granules with Tressland. That one, the Rbside Granules with Pressland,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: is the one you can use in vegetable garden, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: it says so right on the label. The pre emergence
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: are are a little bit of a tricky thing to use.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: You can use them all year round. Best time to
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: use them is right at the end of the winter.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And then you apply it to the soils. Granular you
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: apply it to the soil like fertilizer and it prevents
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: weed seeds. It doesn't interact with the seed. What it
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: does it creates a little gaseous layer top surface of
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the soil and prevents any weed seeds from breaking through
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that gaseous layer to the surface. And so the turf
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and ornamental when grass stopper you can use everywhere but
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: vegetable gardens, lawns, ornamental flower beds, all kinds of stuff.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And the herbiside granules you use that one specifically anywhere
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and also in vegetable gardens.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: And I just want to clear up two people, because
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: you know, especially in vegetable gardens, you know, the whole
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: idea of free emergent is that it doesn't allow the
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: seeds to properly grow or germany like Andy was describing. Well,
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: you know, some people grow their vegetables from the seed,
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: and if you like come up, you need to make
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: sure that they are actually growing and have like fulage
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: on them before you can use those products.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Right, And yeah, yeah, you want to most people plant,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot plant, but those who do use seed,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: you want those plants to germinate and break through the
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: soil surface, get to the light, and have a well
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: established plant before you put that herbiside granule down. And
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: another really good trick of the trade too, is that
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: after you do apply the pre emergent, make sure you
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: don't disturb the soil. Once you disturb the soil, you
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: disturb that little layer that I was talking about, and
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: then you're going to have to reapply again.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Good Lenora and Canyon Country. I wanted you to know
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: that you went and bought some fertilized or fertil on
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: products after Tiger talked about them nice so she he
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: listened to what Tiger said. The second part of John's
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: question I think was a little more difficult Andrew. He
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: wants to know if there's anything he can do for
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: nut grass.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Nutcrass. Yeah, there are products out there. I don't I
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: have one in suspension right now with the state of Californaornia.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: But there are products out there for nut grass. You
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: will want to be a really good independent nursing garden
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: centers and see if they have a product on the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: shelf for nut grass. Nut grass is a problem, especially
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: if it's really prominent, if there's areas of getting lots
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: of water, because they like lots of water. There's a
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: couple of different kinds of nutgrass out there, but there
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: there are products out there for nut grass.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Where where was Oh?
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, sorry, but you guys do have other you guys
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: do have a product that's available other places California, right,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: is what you're saying.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: You know, but it's it's it's pending in the state
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: of California right at the moment. So if anybody can
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you know, push California along, that'd because.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: I would think that if it's suspended or pending in California,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: it really works.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, the state California has it's
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: you know issues there. You know, they're two or three
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: years behind on registrations and you know, budget and strains
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and all kinds of stuff, so you know there it
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: takes a while to get stuff registered here California.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: So h so, so Andy, Then we were talking about
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: herbicides in areas where maybe you're not so worried about
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: your your existing landscape lawn you know, you got you
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: got weeds and cracks and driveways are on paths. What
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: are some products that you recommend for use in those.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so before we talked about selective herbicides. Now we're
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: going to get into non selective herbicides. So we have,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: you know, quite a few products that you can use
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to control weeds any you know, anywhere anywhere that you
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: don't want something to grow, this is what you would use.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: We have a product called kills all weed and grass
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: weed and grass killer. It's a it's a spray, comes by,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: comes in multiple sizes. And we have another one called Decimate,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: and we have an organic solution to burtle of green
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: weed and grass killer. But all of these kill weeds
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: in and around your cracks and corners of your driveway,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: sidewalks or rock you know, driveways or rock gardens things
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: like that. So these are non selective. They spray and
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you spray it and kills anything that you want not
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: to grow.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: And you know, there's a lot of We're gonna have
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: to take a break in about a minute, Andy, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: can we get back. There's a lot of products that
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: are coming out, a lot of recipes people are turning
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: to because for herbicides, you know, vinegar and salt and
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: baking soda and you know all kinds of stuff that
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: you know people are wanting to put in as herbicides.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Can we get back from the break?
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: I want you to hit on that idea of what
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: people have to be cautious of and what people need
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: to know when they do that, because you know, sometimes
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: you could be making the situation where so again we're
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: talking with Andrew from Fertilo. We get back, we'll continue
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: chatting about some of the different ways you control weeds
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: in your guard.
• 39:01
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• 39:03
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• 39:06
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• 39:08
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• 39:11
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• 40:01
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• 40:03
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• 40:06
  Speaker 3: continue with Andrew from Fertilom Tiger.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so before the break, Andy, we're just mentioning on
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: you know, all the recipes that people are putting out.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: He'll he'll kill weeds to stay away from some of
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: the selective herbicides, non selective herb sides that we talked
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: about earlier in the program. There are some things that
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: people need to think about when creating their own little
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: herbicide recipes.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, herbicide recipes are interesting. There's all you know, people
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: can google stuff. You know, there's vinneker solutions and and
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: all kinds of things like that. You know, you know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: there's safety is safety use and you know, all these
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: different kinds of things because you know, they're conscious about
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you know, the herbicide world has been kind of turned
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: upside down due to you know, certain regulations and states
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So people trying to use all
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: different kinds of alternatives, which is fine. Most of them
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: are just a top kill or a burn like you know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: using a vinegar solution, things like that. And even we
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: have a product called Fertilo Weed and grass killer. It's
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: a natural organic product. It's ammoniated soap with fatty acid.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: But there's little tricks that you others, you know, you
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: can use those things. It just does a top kill,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: burns just the foliage, but not all the way down
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: to the root. And so what's really really important that
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: if people use those kinds of solutions or products is
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: that this is the key. Don't make sure they'll make
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: sure that the root not get moisture. If you use
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: those top kills, it just kills the weed leaf surface.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: The roots are still there. But if you go back
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: out wash your car after that wind dead or you
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: think it's dead, that water gets down to the root
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: that we just come right back. So it's really important
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: that if you use those organic or safe solutions out there,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: bray it. Notice that the weed will die right away
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: sometimes day, but if that root gets moisture, it'll come
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: right So it's important to not get watered down to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: where those roots are and or sometimes you have to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: spray again. But that's a little trick on those But
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: there's other products out there that work all the way
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: down to the root.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Last thing I wanted to chat with you about this
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: morning and big change in California this year outlawing amid
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: a cloak rid. Right, so our systemic insecticide that you
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: know we were using California doesn't allow that to be
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: sold anymore. So that's going to change the landscape of
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: what products for people to be used. Is there anything
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: systemically that people can use for control of pest?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: There? There is not. The admid of cloak rid has
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: been a big staple in our industry for a really
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: long time, and unfortunately due to some misuse, maybe a
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: little bit of politics and so on and so forth,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: especially here in state of California in mid of cloprid
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: is no longer for sale in the state of California
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: and maybe a few states in New England and partially
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: in some other states or counties across the country. But
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: we haven't heard we have actually I take that back.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: We have heard that there may be some systemic insective
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: tides come down the roads, teck, but nothing available in
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: the re market at this moment. So right now it's
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: really just using some good topical or contact phrase control
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: live insects, maybe some larvae and you know, insects from
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: attacking shrubs and trees.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: And I do want to allow you to kind of
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: hit on this idea for a minute from the standpoint of,
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: you know, now we have to kind of be I
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: think a little bit more careful of what we're doing,
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: because before when we were applying in a mind of clobrid,
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: we could you know, soil drench the plant absorbs it
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: protected from the inside out. Now, if we go back
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: to this kind of just spray, you know, I mean
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: sometimes those products can be more harmful to the surrounding
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: environment than the amid a clothbrid argument. And you know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: now people are going to be spraying you know, much more,
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: which again, like I said, now you're going to hit
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: all the good bugs along with the bad bugs and
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: some of the other issues. So what are some good
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: spray practices that people exercise.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Companies out there that even brought back as the fate
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: which is actually a schemic insecticide, but it's it's an
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: old technology as a matter of fact, it's an organo
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: phosphate and it's actually worse than AMDA cloprid is day.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: And so it's interesting how the industry has flip flopped
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: and you know, they're bringing you know, stuff like that
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: back into the industry, which is kind of weird. So
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you merely got to tech that active ingredients. And you're right, Tiger,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you know now that we have to use contract contact sprays,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you know, for full on the fold, then then you know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: all your beneficials are more susceptible to you know, all
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: of the sprays that we're using now because that's the
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: only choice that we have. And and again it's all
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: about education. So we're taking a stance furto and we're
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: taking a stance making sure people understand when to spray,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: how to spray, and what to spray. And that's really
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: important because a lot of your beneficials are out for
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: singing in the morning, and you know, and you know,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: you just got to be careful of what you spray
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: and or you know, right now, you know, things are blooming.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: There's lots of flowers. You've got lots of bees and
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: lady bugs and all kinds of stuff out there right now,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and you just you don't want to get rid of them,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: but you you know, you have an insect problem at
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: the same time.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: Wow, lots of great infort To diges. Did we get
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: all the answers question there, John, We did.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm biting my tongue because I'm so upset over this.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: The medical oakport probably in my opinion, one of the
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: most environmentally safe products to use and effective and and
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: it's going to be all Is it already banned?
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, you can't get it. You're in California.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Your shelf off the shelf, no longer for sale on
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: retail shelves. Now there are landscape companies all over the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: state that have Testifide licenses that actually can spray in
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: medical or systemic and stick aside the middle clupport in
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: people's yards or in or in landscape. But they have
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to do it, and you know, it's product behind the shelf.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: They use it and you can hire them to come
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: and drench or spray you know, trees and shrubs in
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: your yard.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Hey, yes, we say goodbye to Andy. I wanted to
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: leave him with this thought from Carla Uh. She believes
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: that there's a verse somewhere in the Bible, Andy that
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: says that when nut grass takes over the world, the
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: second Coming is here.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: I feel some.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: People I think I believe that too. You know, nut
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: grass would be a really big problem to pull it.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: So hopefully, hopefully the state of California will approve our
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: our stance on that and we'll get something going here
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: pretty soon.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: All right, Hey, Andrew, thank you very much for joining
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: this weekend. Joining us this weekend, and have a great
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: rest of the weekend. And thanks again for all the information.
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: Take care, You're welcome.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Thank you guys.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Thank you Andy. All Right, So there you go, with
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of things to digest, and think about it.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I knew John, would you know when he talked about
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: am admit a cloak for it? Right, I'm just I'm
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: trying to enunciate the way.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: That the cloak for it works. By the way is
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: it can be applied like Tyger was saying, systemically at
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: the base of the plant. It'll protect the plant from
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: sucking insects for up to a year, right, yep. And
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: you're not spraying it in the air, which you have
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: to do even if it's you think it's been going
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: to be marginally safe or pretty safe, you know, in
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: our organic fest society, it does go in the air.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know we talked about we can
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: say these people, oh well, I'm going to use soap
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: and water on my pink right for bug.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: They think it's perfectly sick. If you still get soap
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: and water on lady bugs and.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: Still get soap and water on beneficial insects, they still
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: are affected, you know by that where you know said
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: with the stemic instaxicides, it's only the bugs that are
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: actually sucking on the plant, right that are affected, and
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: lady bugs don't stuck on.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: I want to get into this, and I know we're
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: going to take a break here in the bottom minut
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I know, no breaks, right, So these are lawmakers making
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: these decisions. Yeah, okay, So let's take, for example, what
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: we just discussed. Somebody approaches somebody and says this product's
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: not safe. In other words, that there's a groundswell that
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: gets these laws passed. People in politics have to listen
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: to somebody who has more knowledge than they do. Wouldn't
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: they listen to both sides of the argument and then
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: weigh their decision. How does that work? And I know
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: we're not politicians, but John, you you've got a little
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: background in this and Tiger.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: But the science isn't there, Like like we talk about,
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: like the weather. We've been researching weather for.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: What I would say since the mid eighteen hundreds, Okay,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: we're going now one hundred and fifty years or whatever.
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple hundred years, say, Okay.
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: To think that we know all about weather based on
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: a couple hundred years of actual data, right, is a
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: bit naive though, And so with the midiclop brids.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Midiclovers have been around for you know, less.
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: Than fifty years, Yeah, you know, right, So to think
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: that we can base our knowledge off and then even
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: then they've.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: All got massively and we're gonna we're gonna take a break.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: This gets better and better. Guard to America had a
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: break for Bistalk Radio. Stay with Okay, we are back
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: from that break again the Bistalk Radio Facebook Live and
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: whenever I can get John grinning, it's made my kid.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I am. I am sick Bestibal And you bring up
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: a good point prior to the break about how much
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: information do we know? You know some people, you know,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: there's a process that all these products go through before
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: their release and then it's like a recall.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: But there's a lot of hard products that have been
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: taken off the shelf that should have been taken.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Which is derful right right now, but also exist, This
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: exists in our society today. There's a brand of radical
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: environmental activism that doesn't use common sense in my opinion.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: And doesn't even use the product seriously.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: But I mean they have an almost religious zel they're
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: almost beligious cell its Yeah, maybe because they're lacking something
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: in their lives and it's a group think that has
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: no common sense behind it. So when you we don't
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: want to go any.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Further because we're keeping it, we're keeping it generic.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but anyway, they'll pull things off the Internet and
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: things start to get uh, you know, spread and said,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: and it's actually not true or there's no there are
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: no studies to back it up.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: See in my common sense logical world, somebody brings something
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: to the attention of a state, politics, whatever sty cap
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: and they take a look at it and say, okay,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: we need to bring in now scientists and other people
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: who may have a different point of view that tells
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: us this product safe. And then you have the back
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: and forth and you wait the arguments and come to
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: a decision. I don't know if that's how it works
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: or not, but you would certainly think somebody listens to
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: both sides because the people making these decisions, lawmakers, they
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: don't have the background.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: They have to rely on using the smarter people around
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: them exactly.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: So to listen to one side and say you're right
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: without having all the facts, that's my point.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: And John John asked the question, wasn't there some evidence
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: that amid a clopri killed bees. That's exactly what I'm
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: talking about that got put on the internet about study
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: or about something that happened in Europe, which wasn't even true,
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: and it it got spread, and that that was used
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: as the source of it. And it wasn't that it
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: killed berees if head sprayed it on them. They said
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: that it killed bees if bees went to the flowers
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: later on. And as it turns out that the Amida
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: cloprid molecule is too large to go from the plant
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: across the peduncle and go into most flowers, so it
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: really doesn't affect bees at all. The pollen doesn't affect.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying to Yeah, to give the other
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: side like a weak argument, you're going to give the
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: other side, like you say, Brian, just.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: So people are aware.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: That's the argument against a middle is they they're saying
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: that the Amida clovid products not just killed the insects
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: that we want to confront pollinators, but they also killed
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: pollinator so you know, ease butterflies, you know, even to
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: go as far into you know, and stuff like that.
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: And what John is saying is the science behind made
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: a quote. Bride on that side is saying, well, yeah,
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: that's okay, we want to look into this. We want
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: to see if this is true. That would not be good.
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: We don't want to kill pollinators.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: And there's ways to experiment and find out if.
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: That's true and exactly that's it, and it's they're fine
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: on that. Okay, this product was absorbed into the plant,
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: goes to the flower, you're right, But then to think
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: that it actually goes from the flower into the pollinator
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: is virtually impossible because this molecule cannot make that jump
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: into pollen or into the neck or into the products
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: that you know that pollinators are are going.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: To because it's too big, as John, so you can't.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: It can't. It can't transpire from from one to the other.
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: And so you know, yeah, and so what I was
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: kind of getting at with that, you know, now we
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: could be almost doing more harm because the products we're
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: going to switch to are these spray where people are
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: going to be spraying butterfly, They are going to be
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: spraying lady, they are going to be spraying be just
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: by default it's going to happen, and these sprays are
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: going to go onto the floor, onto the other parts
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: of the plant that the pollinators are going to, and
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: which is almost probably going to be more detrimental to
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: this whole pollinator population than you know, anything else and so,
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: and then here's the other funny thing about it though,
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: because let's be real, you know, home gardener population of
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: applying all these products is very to what people are
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: compared to the industry. Yeah, compared to like the almond
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: orchards or tomato fields that are out there. It's still
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: perfectly legal for them to use because I mean, there's
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: restrictions on how they.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Here's the other point, you know, along with what you're
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: just saying. If you have an orchard, are you going
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: to spray something that kills the pollinators?
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: That's horrible? Yeah, So why did the argument stop right
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: there when you talk about it? Can't it can't go
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: from one to the other. Okay, Now, I mean, well
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: that's a great question.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Side somebody would have to pay for studies to make
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: sure that was true. Then they would have to initiate
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: a loss.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: But isn't it even more irresponsible just to take somebody's
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: word for it.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised you would think that that doesn't happen.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I know in my little naive world. You know what,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: So do we want to hear the other side? I
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: don't think so. It's going to cost too much money? Okay,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: then ban it.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: Kevin and Cordelane wants to know how to spell him
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: at a cloak bread and uh. If you're looking at
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: the Facebook postings, Kevin, John came pretty in Huntington Beach,
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: came pretty close to spelling it correctly. It's I am
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: I D A C E.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: D l oh.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: I think there's an H in there somewhere.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: If this was a spelling B, I'd have to give
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: you the buzzer.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Well, use it in a sentence and then I'll spell
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: it correctly. So anyway, it's close. If you look up,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: I am I D A c l uh and then
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: try to get cloprid off of that, I am D
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: okay A c l No, it's I M A D
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: right M I D I D I am I D right.
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: I am I D A C l O e r I.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. John was pretty close.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Carlo, go ahead, ah.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Carlo says that a local garden center told her that
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: HB one O one is not going to be available
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: in California.
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: Oh really, I believe that because they were, and she
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: wants under the radar in so many ways.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: She wants to know if it's true. She's stucking up
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: just in case.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, So what was it? What is it about that
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: product that doesn't surprise you that it might.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: Be banned because their labels aren't.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: They don't really say what.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: It is, you know, Uh, worm gold plus right right?
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Tony, No, worm.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Gold was George.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: George Hank worm casting worms the worm poop? Okay? You
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: know when he first is.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Organic as you can possibly guess he when.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: He first launches product, it's it's worm poop in a bag, okay,
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: And he had all kinds of things on his bag
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: that you know, our general ideas of what worm castings
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: will do.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Which the worm poop's out there, whether you put it
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: in a bag or not. Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: But one of the things he said was that it
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: helps to repel insect correct.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, here what there?
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: There there the rub and there's there's. What happens is
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: it's not a matter of product it's saved or not.
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: It's a package and it has if there's there's if
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: it's claimed something on a package, you have to prove that.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: Or you have to have the proof of whatever, or
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: couldn't you have some kind of disclaimer under that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: But the main problem was he didn't register it as
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: an insecticide data.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, we have to take a break. This is fascinating.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: So yes, HB one on one, it just has like, hey,
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: it works, and that's what they're backing.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: We're to take a break after these messages on Bisdock Radio.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: This is Garden America. Welcome to guard in America and
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: welcome to political talk on this this weekend or whenever
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: you're listening to us. But once you go down this
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: rabbit hole, yet, there's even more and more questions. We've
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: always talked about HB one on one. People say what
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: is it and our answer is I don't know, but
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: it works.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: Well yeah, and that's the truth.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: And that's why they'll probably get in trouble in California
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: because you're supposed to put everything that's in there on
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: the package.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: So that's why they have a book attached to the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: bottle now.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: But I just used it. I was telling you guys
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: last couple of weeks that the fightus I had outdoors
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: transplant shock whatever, it wasn't looking good. A little fertilizer
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: from HB one on one and that suckers back growing again.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Oh we know it could be the the tears, you know,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: grown men.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: So either HB one on one says okay, we're going
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: to put the ingredients, or they run with their tail between.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: The ingredients, they tell you where it comes. You know,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: they're kind offer extracts.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: So then what's the issue.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: You don't have the exact like like you know, like
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: you look into a bottle, right it says this is
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: what it is, and this is what the exact conifer.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: You know, conifer is very general.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: So by putting on the label it contains this and
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: that is not good enough. It's not this or that
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: you got enough? What this or that? Okay? I got
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: you Okay, John.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Let's see uh Tanya and uh Carla are talking online
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: about how it could be you could get it through Amazon,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: and here's the warning on that is right now, you
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: can buy it on Amazon, but eventually Amazon, complying with
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: all the state regulations, will say cannot be shipped telephone.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: Right Because I did that with the squirrel bait, it
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: was outlawed in California, and then I I had a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: huge squirrel problem, which I've out taken care of, I hope,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: but I had to buy it online. And then eventually
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: the companies I was getting it online from that cannot
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: shift to California.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: So then you find a friend in another state and they.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not recommended market.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: Now. I mean, it's it's it's tough out there. I mean,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: like I said, I you know, to give the other side.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: There are a lot of frauds that have been roofed
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 6: removed that are really good that they removed from market.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: We're very harmful. Do we want to do our best.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Exactly? And talking about being sprayed indiscriminately, yeah, they're just
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: blanketed cities with it. And there you know, a low
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: flying aircraft, you know, over the whole city.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: That was a title of one of the chapters in
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: Rachel Carson Silent Spring. The title of the chapter was
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Indiscriminately from the skies.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so unfortunately, you know what it's like, It's it's
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: like the kid in the back of the class that
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: gets in trouble and the whole class is in trouble
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: now because he wouldn't keep his mouth shut, and so
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: you know, everyone's in trouble.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: But you know, it's even so much than all of
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: this stuff. You're right, you know, we need to be
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: concerned about this. But then you know, everybody's beliefs around
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: the world.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: It's so different, you know. I mean, for instance, like
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: Europe can't have the red dye and foods, you know,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: but meanwhile.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: Here in California, we're so worried about HB one and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: one having its ingredients on the label, but meanwhile our
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: kids are eating super harmful kids.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's like the ingredients in Coca Cola
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: are different in Europe than they are here.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: Market the priorities in different.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Well PEPSI just announced that they were ah taking out
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: the food coloring and oh, that's cool, two of them.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: That's cool because thanks star of Kate Junior.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: But yeah, so it just depends on where you're from
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: that kind of happening things going.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Hey, you know, we were talking earlier in the show
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: about the auction at the San Diego ROAs Society Flower
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Show tomorrow. But what I did not mention was that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: there's an online only auction, uh for the California Coastal
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: Roads Society, And there's one hundred rare and unusual roses
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: that you can go online and bid four Now cool,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: and I believe there's there's four or five roses on
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: there that there are only two of that variety in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: our country and maybe less than ten in the world.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: So this is a great opportunity if you like unusual things,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: or if you're a collector like some people.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: We know of, or will there be only one left
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: after you finished the auction?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I said there's two, because ones in
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: the auction and ones in my house.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: Are they yours?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: Which there roses that we that we got from Europe
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: eventually from the Rosaric europea rosarium in Sanger House in Germany.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: So anyway, you know, that trip to Belgium did a
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: lot of good, didn't it. It did a couple of
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: numbers ago, Yeah, it did.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: Tiger John wants to know about He said, he replanted
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: his native milk weed. It gets wiped out by the
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: monarchs every year, which I guess is the purpose of it.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: But he wants to know why it didn't come back.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: He thought it was a perennial the.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: I mean the first red flag? Is he frans that
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: what he said?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: No, he said that he replanted because the other stuff
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: had died last year, so he planted new ones, right,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: planted new one?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, two? Okay, I mean it should come back everything.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: You know, milkweed is I wouldn't say it's a perennial
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: because I think it more just kind of like up
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: and people think that like it's the same plant over
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: and over again.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: So you know, but they're receding annual, right, And but.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: There are plants because we live in southern California that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: do stick around. For me, that does happen. But like
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: like he mentioned, a lot of times they'll be decimated
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: by it monarchs and then you know, sometimes they don't
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: come back, and in terms of but reap, they didn't.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: Oh oh yeah, so he needs it's it's best if
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: he can plant them early before because a lot of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: people will plant them at the time that the monarchs
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: are eating and then it doesn't really give them that
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: chance to to develop and grow and reced.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: Like people are like very reaction.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: They're like, oh, I got monarchs, I'm gonna start planting milkweed. Well,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: if they planted it early, the plant would fully develop,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: brow flower, reseed, repopulate, do all that. But because they
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: plant them plate usually the plant doesn't have time to
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: do all the cross. So you know, if you're planting
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: them in the middle of the feeding period, you're not
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: going to.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: Get I lost the question now because there's so many
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: comments on Facebook, but may have been Veronica, But somebody
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: was asking about a book on companions planning for vegetables.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: And one of the first books to talk about that
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: and still is used as a standard today is Luise
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: Louise Bryant r Io t Te wrote a book called
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: Carrott's Love.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Tomatoes, so we talked about that.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: It'll talk about companion planning, and then she also had
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: one called Roses Love Garlic. So those two books are
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: great for planning. And I'm sure there's if you go
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: to Amazon and look it up, it might they might
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: offer like you might also be interested and or you know,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: people who bought this also bought this.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of the vegetable garden books, I think
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: even the Squarefoot Garden or has a full section well.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: What do you call? Oh my gosh, I just lost
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: the word that the plant that tells you when it
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: needs water indicator plant.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: Boy.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Love the hydrangea. It tells me.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: Your impatience used to tell you, yeah, you know, kind.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Of kind of hanging their head. But but so does
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: the hydrangea, which hasn't bloom yet. But it's got nice
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: leaves and are just coming in.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: Do you have a favorite little prin because I remember
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: at your old house at Baulbrook, one of the things
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 6: I loved in your front yard you had all these
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: like little perennials that you could collected from you know,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: Altman's and blood connection over the years, you know, and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: they were just like these fun little like new guinea patients,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: Caliber co or.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: You know, in the in your yard.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: Now, do you have any new favorites of those plans
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: you started to do that along the left side of
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: the driveway, right.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I told you I just replanted
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: one of those that I had out there, which was
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: that I'm trying to think of the new name for it,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: but it was that variegated lavender, the one that doesn't flower.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yes, yeah, you.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Merlow is the that was the name that it came out. Okay,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: em e e r l O mirr Low. But that
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: it's been it's come back out under a new name.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: I think I got mine at home people of all places. Yeah,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: so let's see. Oh I keep neglecting this, but uh,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: everybody wants me to answer this question. Kevin Bortolaine had
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: asked about epsom salts soil. Oh, yeah, and if if
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: it did any good, it was for roses merely. Was
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: it the big push some salts? I think is magnesium sulfate? Right,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: so it can add magnesium to the soil if you
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: your soil is deficient and magnesium. We're not in California,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: and I think I know a very few soils that
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: are magni. Oh. The point is magnesium saltake salts is
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: the salt, the salt in the very name. We got
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: to pick a break as well as my point was
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: just going to be anytime you add a salt soil
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: just kill something.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: So take it off the show. We'll be back with
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: our final segments, right.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Part of the show is that a lot of people
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: look forward to the last pick. Yeah, this is it
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: too to garden American salt that like, so you to
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: so there, well, I think what he's talking about their
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: skin nicely. You go out there with a chair that
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: you soak your feet and epps in stalts while your
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: garden there you go, there you go, and then you
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: feel relaxed to Yeah, what was the.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: Whole point of ebstin salt? So isn't supposed to hear like,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: it's all.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Your feet and EPs and salts and salts. I think, right, John,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: go soak your feet and the Yeah, don't don't right.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: I think it was just it is that like a
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: real thing, Yes.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: Supposed to be supposed to be? What does it do?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: I've never done it? No, well obviously you haven't. How
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: about your wife? Yeah, she's she does.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: Like we have a bag of epsen and ask because
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: of why?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Like you know a lot of people do things just
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: because their folks did it or their grandmother did it.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: It was supposed to relax your muscle.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: Oh is that what it's supposed to.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: I'd rather have a good foot mission. Yeah, then doing that?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Do you so talk about?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: Like why you do things?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Fixed? Vapor rub? Yes? As a kid on your chest?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: You where did you put it on your chest?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: My mother put it on my chest and maybe right
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: into my nose.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: But the chest seems logical, That seems logical.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: But we always put it in your nose? What your
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: nuts to do?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: I never put it in my How could you survive?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: Are you certainly breathe?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: After that? You would never stop crying.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: But you were going to bring to take a point.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: Bottom of your feet. My family was like, you put
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: it on the bottom of your feet? What, Yes, I
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: don't know why.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's and then it's like a Bayer product
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: that that translocates up up your body from your feet
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: into your nervous system and into your muscles.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: Right, it's a vapor rube, right, yeah, but bottom of
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: your feet put it on? See it hispanic thing?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: And it could be. But but again, the answer to
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of those questions is because we've always done
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: it that way exactly. Why don't know what we've We've
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: always done it that way.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: I can't believe you. Are you serious? You would put
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: it in your notes?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: Well, your parents would put it up your nose, right
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: kind of. I guess he seems embarrassed about.
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  Speaker 6: That because I feel like, well, I feel like it's
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  Speaker 6: it would burn, you know what I mean? Definitely like
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  Speaker 6: I feel like when you put it on your chest.
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  Speaker 5: It makes you. Let's cry already, let alone fixed vapor?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Do people still take gyroital? Remember Carter's pill? No, it's
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  Speaker 3: a spoonful of If you have iron iron poor blood,
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  Speaker 3: take a spoonful of gyrotones.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was for old people.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was Yeah. Absolutely, I'm just wondering if they
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I've taken it, never taken it.
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  Speaker 3: Never never iron poor blood, which means if you lack iron.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously that was a supplement. M Remember Carter's pills, and
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  Speaker 3: there's an a.
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  Speaker 4: Same member of the presidency of Carter was not good.
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  Speaker 3: Now, this is come on, you're old and older than
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  Speaker 3: I am.
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  Speaker 4: I remember pills, but I don't remember what they were
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  Speaker 4: used for.
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  Speaker 3: And then somebody would say, I don't know anyone who
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  Speaker 3: took he has more flowers than Carter has pills. That
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  Speaker 3: was Remember that Carter's pills. Somebody looked that up. Google
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  Speaker 3: that My dad, They and we would say things because
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  Speaker 3: our parents had them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you didn't know that, You didn't know, You just
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  Speaker 5: knew it was the same.
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  Speaker 4: Dana's being corrected by auto correct because she wanted to
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  Speaker 4: know if anyone had to take Toddler oil as a kid. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: must have read that in because it meant god liver oil. Yeah, correct,
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  Speaker 4: Toddler Royal.
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  Speaker 3: Just the name cod liver oil.
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  Speaker 5: How did you even get past? Right? What do you drinking?
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather suffer with what I am Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I misread Lisa's comment here. I thought she I read
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  Speaker 4: it quickly and she said I planted Italian pot in
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  Speaker 4: a Mexican pot.
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  Speaker 5: But what she boasted was.
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  Speaker 4: She planted a Italian pot and a Mexican pot. Play.
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  Speaker 4: I assume she's talking about Italian playing Mexican play.
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  Speaker 6: You know what you know, I was thinking she was
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  Speaker 6: she did, like an Italian pot of herbs, Mexican pot,
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  Speaker 6: parsley and oregano and basil Italian and then cilantro episode
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  Speaker 6: yeah in uh in the Mexican one.
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  Speaker 4: It could be what you don't know, that would make
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  Speaker 4: a lot more sense, would Yeah, Okay, I think so.
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  Speaker 4: I think the the merchant and me went immediately to
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  Speaker 4: the days where we would carry both the Italian play right.
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  Speaker 4: The clay. The Italian clay was always high fire, better quality.
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  Speaker 4: The Mexican was low fire. So you used to have
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  Speaker 4: to paint the inside of it with a preservative. Well
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  Speaker 4: that was it from disintegrating. Yeah, that was back in
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  Speaker 4: the day.
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  Speaker 6: But now they come oh you know right like yeah, like,
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  Speaker 6: because like you're saying, if they if they are not painted,
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  Speaker 6: you get one season.
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  Speaker 4: I remember when Wahakan Pottery was a big deal. Uh
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  Speaker 4: pottery from Wahaka.
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  Speaker 5: But is that the there are different ones we call
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  Speaker 5: it ah no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 4: They were different shapes uh uh Buyan and asstick shape
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  Speaker 4: pots like what they were Mexican. Yeah, but a lot
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  Speaker 4: of different faces, unusual shapes. There was the the pottery
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  Speaker 4: from uh Wa Lajara was pretty much you know, they
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  Speaker 4: had five or six shapes. They didn't very I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if they still still carry that pottery.
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  Speaker 3: We have we have one minute.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, hey for what garden walk is next weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Mother's Day, Mother's Days next week right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So if you're in the San Diego area and
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  Speaker 6: you want to go to the Mission garden Walk, buy
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  Speaker 6: your tickets online. I'm sure there's a lot of garden
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  Speaker 6: walks happening, garden tours happening wherever you are. Because it
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  Speaker 6: is spring, We're not gonna have a great weekend.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna it's kind of weekends supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: not beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: You should come see the Flower Show tomorrow, the Road Show,
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  Speaker 4: bring Dane over.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of things they should do.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we could have a guest auctioneer you come
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  Speaker 4: up and just to warm up for the fall auction auction.
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  Speaker 3: Off by then by the time the fall auction that
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  Speaker 3: the warm up will have worn off. Okay, that's it,
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  Speaker 3: but we will be at the fall auction, all of us,
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  Speaker 3: plenty of time to plan for that. We'll talk more
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  Speaker 3: about that. Hey, thank you for joining us, A big
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  Speaker 3: thank you to Andrew from Fertilom, and again thank you
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  Speaker 3: for tuning in on BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. Enjoy
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  Speaker 3: the rest of you week and have a safe a week.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do it again. What we can be next week?
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  Speaker 3: Right here? Yeah, yeah, we're warmed up now, warmed up,
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  Speaker 3: but warmed up quickly for the entire crew. I'm Brian Maine,
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  Speaker 3: Tiger Palafox, John beg Nescill. Have a good one, Be safe.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do it again next week, all right here on
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  Speaker 3: Guard in America. Take care,