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  Speaker 1: My name is Jeram. This is germ warfare, the Battle
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  Speaker 1: of ideas. Roger Cunningham, thank you for joining me in
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  Speaker 1: the trenches.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely pleasure to be here, Jeram.
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  Speaker 1: I think what caught me actually was the title ethical skeptic.
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  Speaker 1: What's the need for skeptic to be ethical?
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  Speaker 2: Well in this context, and of course it's a nom deaguere,
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  Speaker 2: the ethical skeptic. It was what I used during the
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  Speaker 2: period of time where I was anonymous, because the people
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  Speaker 2: who oppose, you know, many of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: sponsor or research. There are some things I research and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not buying into just yet. I want to, I
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  Speaker 2: want to understand it. That's what skepticism is. I use
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  Speaker 2: the nom de guere to give me breathing room so
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  Speaker 2: I could do things and not impact my real life
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  Speaker 2: work with clients, with governments, with nations, doing strategies, working
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  Speaker 2: with government agencies or NGOs. I didn't want that work
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  Speaker 2: threatened by malicious actors. And in fact, in one business,
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  Speaker 2: I was managing partner of the business and we got
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  Speaker 2: a letter about advocacy I had done in just a forum,
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  Speaker 2: the old you know, the old forum style. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a legacy of the BBS is
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  Speaker 2: the old forums that used to run and rule the Internet.
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  Speaker 2: We got a letter just because of an not an email,
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  Speaker 2: a post that I wrote in a forum. Fortunately I
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  Speaker 2: was managing partner, so I got the letter, and of
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  Speaker 2: course it was from an anonymous person. So anonymity can
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  Speaker 2: be used. It's a double edged sword. It can be
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  Speaker 2: used both ways. But I wanted to give myself breathing
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  Speaker 2: room to not impact, you know, client meetings. I've had
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  Speaker 2: client meetings where people brought up, you know, something I
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  Speaker 2: had in my personal communications on the screen before the meeting.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is this is inappropriate and it has
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  Speaker 2: no bearing on this meeting. So, with those type of
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  Speaker 2: offenses very commonplace in the market of social information, I
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  Speaker 2: want to do to insulate the two from each other.
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  Speaker 2: My work life and of course this advocacy or this research.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why I chose anonymity. Ethical in this context
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  Speaker 2: does not mean moral, it doesn't mean higher than higher
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  Speaker 2: than thou. Ethical just means appealing to a long standing
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  Speaker 2: effective standard, a praxis p R a xis as it
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  Speaker 2: is called, that has shown effective across a large body
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  Speaker 2: of work. What we had happened in nineteen seventy two
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  Speaker 2: was really a wander away from true skepticism, and this
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  Speaker 2: pop skepticism came into place, you know, with extraordinary claims
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  Speaker 2: require extraordinary evidence, and Okham's raiser is the simplest explanation.
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  Speaker 2: Both of those are misleading apothegms. They're not false per se.
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  Speaker 2: It's just that they're semantic truths. They are not logical truths,
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  Speaker 2: and they could be misused and abused to squelch subjects
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  Speaker 2: that have merit. So ethics pushes back against that. It's
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  Speaker 2: an appeal to bank robbers to stop robbing banks. It
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  Speaker 2: is not an appeal to self. It's not an appeal
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  Speaker 2: to moral superiority or anything like that. In addition, the moniker,
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  Speaker 2: the ethical skeptic is is much akin to and I
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  Speaker 2: relate it to industry or trade publications. One of the
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  Speaker 2: books I used during you know, coming up in navigation
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  Speaker 2: and training was called The American Practical Navigator by Nathaniel Bowditch.
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  Speaker 2: And he wasn't claimed that. He wasn't claiming in that
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  Speaker 2: title that he was practical. He was claiming he was
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  Speaker 2: a navigator. But the American Practical Navigator is a name
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  Speaker 2: for the discipline and I'm using the ethical skeptic in
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  Speaker 2: that same regard, or the creative architect trade publication. These
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  Speaker 2: are not personal claims. They are claims to a standard
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  Speaker 2: that I'd like to encourage become part of the social
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  Speaker 2: discourse or the substrate the foundation for the social discourse.
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  Speaker 1: I love what you said there about Okham's Raiser. I
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  Speaker 1: was just having that conversation about a week ago with somebody.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's not a very effective tool because it
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  Speaker 1: assumes that everything must be simple and life is very complex.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the abuse of Occam's Raiser starts with this. Occaham's
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  Speaker 2: Raiser is not a decision heuristic. It is simply the
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  Speaker 2: gateway through which we we introduce alternative options. We have
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  Speaker 2: what is called our you know, our most common belief
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  Speaker 2: is sometimes called not always, but it is called the
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  Speaker 2: null hypothesis, and that might be the prevailing belief. Okham's
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  Speaker 2: raiser is the gate through which you say, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: understand the null hypothesis. I don't have a problem with it.
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  Speaker 2: But there's another idea at play here, and it needs
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  Speaker 2: to be researched. That compelling need to be researched is
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  Speaker 2: what Ockham's raiser is O C K H A M.
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  Speaker 2: Not the not the pop Michael Shermer version or Carl
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  Speaker 2: Sagan version of Okham's razor, where the simplest explanation tends
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  Speaker 2: to be the correct one. That's not the purpose or
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  Speaker 2: role of Occham's raiser. Ockham's Raiser says plurality should not
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  Speaker 2: be posited without necessity, and that is a qualification to say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you're looking at at anomaloust craft flying
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  Speaker 2: in the sky, well, yes, certainly, we always consider the
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  Speaker 2: option that it's just misinterpretation, it's exotic military craft, it's
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  Speaker 2: electrical phenomena, it's drones. Now that we have that option available,
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  Speaker 2: those certainly are always considered by most people. The issue becomes,
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  Speaker 2: when do we introduce that these craft are something anomalous
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  Speaker 2: beyond our current scope of understanding as a social entity mankind,
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  Speaker 2: that we've passed that Okham's Razor threshold. We have two alternatives.
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  Speaker 2: One is but they're both really placeholders. But one is
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  Speaker 2: a placeholder something that is not us is flying in
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  Speaker 2: our skies. That's all you have to say that that
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  Speaker 2: alternative needs to be researched because it has surpassed the
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  Speaker 2: threshold of Oakham's Razer.
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  Speaker 1: The pyramids are probably one of the most interesting talking
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  Speaker 1: points in the world. I've had the great pleasure of
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  Speaker 1: talking to Christopher Dunn and Ben van Kirkwak and those
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  Speaker 1: in the sort of revisionist archaeological circles. If we just
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  Speaker 1: zoom out for a moment, what is your central thingis.
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  Speaker 2: The central thesis that I have on the main two pyramids,
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  Speaker 2: that would be Kufu and Cofrey. Those are the names only.
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  Speaker 2: They're not actually who built or was buried or interred
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  Speaker 2: inside those pyramids, but they are convenient handles so that
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  Speaker 2: people know that Kufu is the great pyramid in Cofrey
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  Speaker 2: or Kaffran is the pyramid with the cap or the
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  Speaker 2: upper Tura limestone casing stones still remaining. My position is
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  Speaker 2: that they bear greater antiquity than the Fourth Dynasty dynasty
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  Speaker 2: of the Old Kingdom of Egypt, for a number of reasons,
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  Speaker 2: not the least of which none of the evidence that
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  Speaker 2: has been foisted by archaeology to date supports a Fourth
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  Speaker 2: Dynasty or Kufu origin. For instance, there have been two
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  Speaker 2: sets of carbon dating studies done on the Kufu Pyramid
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  Speaker 2: and the pyramid the Giza complex in general, the bowmen
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  Speaker 2: and Learner studies or laner studies, and they were done
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  Speaker 2: in the nineties, eighties and nineties. And why they haven't
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  Speaker 2: done any studies since, I think tips us office to
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  Speaker 2: the fear that exists in you know, classical archaeology that
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  Speaker 2: they're about to be found out and amateurs are running
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  Speaker 2: circles around them doing an end run. Those studies indicated
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  Speaker 2: an antiquity of three thousand BC, which is a full
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  Speaker 2: six to eight hundred years prior to the Fourth Kingdom.
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  Speaker 2: So that's where it begins right there. The only the
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  Speaker 2: only item that has actually been dated carbon dated that
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  Speaker 2: has come from the Cufu Pyramid or any of any
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  Speaker 2: of the pyramids for that matter, is a thing called
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  Speaker 2: the Dixon cedar plank. It's actually a cedar like plank.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't analyzed it for the actual you know tree.
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  Speaker 2: When that that item was carbon dated, it carbondated to
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight hundred to thirty six hundred BCE, so well
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  Speaker 2: before even the Old Kingdom of Egypt. And that was
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  Speaker 2: that was an implement being used by a tomb robber.
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  Speaker 2: Think of this, that that that plank was part of
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  Speaker 2: a grappling hook that was dropped down the Queen's Chamber
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  Speaker 2: north shaft, and they weren't able to pull the grappling
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  Speaker 2: hook back up, so they pulled really hard and ended
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  Speaker 2: up snapping, you know, the rope that held that grappling hook.
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  Speaker 2: They were treasure hunters. You don't. You don't build a
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  Speaker 2: pyramid with a grappling hook, and certainly not down the
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  Speaker 2: shaft that you've already completed in that in that deposition,
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  Speaker 2: that that drop of material in that tomb rating incident,
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  Speaker 2: that that precipitated the ceedar like plank. You have a
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  Speaker 2: broken stone and it's not broken as in pressure you know,
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  Speaker 2: from from above from the stone stacked on top of
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  Speaker 2: it knocked it out a position and it went tumbling
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  Speaker 2: down the shaft. This was chiseled and shoved, forced out
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  Speaker 2: of its institute location. In fact, you can see the
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  Speaker 2: floor chiselings underneath the stone, so that had room to
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  Speaker 2: move out. The idea that this stone just accidentally fell
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  Speaker 2: out of the wall of of the Queen's Chamber north
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  Speaker 2: airshaft is ludicrous. It's to the point of panic. And
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  Speaker 2: when they present these arguments to engineers, and I'm a
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  Speaker 2: systems engineer and an industrial engineer as well. So I've
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  Speaker 2: done both analytical systems systems development, but as well construction
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  Speaker 2: of hundreds of very large structures. Present those arguments, and
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  Speaker 2: I've been there when they present these arguments to real engineers,
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  Speaker 2: it's laughable. It just discredits the field, and not only
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  Speaker 2: discredits the field, it raises beyond Dockham's razor, the notion,
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  Speaker 2: the contention that somebody behind archaeology is enormously terrified of
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  Speaker 2: these pyramids. They're enormously terrified of go Beckley Tepe. They
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  Speaker 2: refuse to do any carbon dating, they refuse to condent
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  Speaker 2: continue excavation. They send Zahi Hawas into every new chamber
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that it's okay before any cameras or
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  Speaker 2: public can come in. And we know Zahi was make
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  Speaker 2: sure that the place is scoured of any evidence that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't support a Fourth Dynasty Cufu origin for the Great Pyramid.
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  Speaker 2: All these things, this is just the beginnings of the
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  Speaker 2: malfeasance that exists in archaeology that has raised the specter
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  Speaker 2: of dishonesty, deceit, and more than that, control of the
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  Speaker 2: public discourse and public mind. That's the problem, and we
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  Speaker 2: decry that problem. It is an issue of ethics. It
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  Speaker 2: is an issue of skepticism, and that's why I take
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  Speaker 2: focus on the pyramid. But in addition to that was
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  Speaker 2: when I visited there with an Egyptian client. It was
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  Speaker 2: actually the Chamber of Commerce for Cairo wanted to improve
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  Speaker 2: their what they would call their retail footprint, so I
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  Speaker 2: was doing a strategy for them, and they allowed me
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  Speaker 2: to go out and take one of their drivers and
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  Speaker 2: get a tour of the complex and go some places
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  Speaker 2: where the normal tourists don't get to go. And that
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. When I hit the Coaffre Pyramid,
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  Speaker 2: it was obvious, you know, there were no chips of
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  Speaker 2: the stones, the broken and removed stones laying about, and
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  Speaker 2: no matter how much you clean up that site, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have some chips that remain, and that means
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  Speaker 2: shattered limestone. The calcium carbonate bonds would break, and they
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  Speaker 2: break in a certain fashion, you know, like a knife
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  Speaker 2: edge to a degree, just like cracking mica can make
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful knife, calcium carbonate will crack in certain patterns.
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  Speaker 2: None of those stones bore those patterns. There were none
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  Speaker 2: of the pieces of stone. The only stones laying about
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  Speaker 2: around the Coaffre pyramid were made of granite rose quartz
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  Speaker 2: based granite, so those stones survived. Yet the Toura limestone
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  Speaker 2: casing stones did not survive. And what I was able
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  Speaker 2: to ascertain through that visit, and it hit me while
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  Speaker 2: I was standing there, like these stones were dissolved by
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  Speaker 2: ocean water. How come nobody has ever seen this? You
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  Speaker 2: can the upper erosion band on the top of the
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  Speaker 2: Kaffere pyramid. You have the limestone cap that's you know,
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  Speaker 2: pyramid and pyramidian in shape. Then you have a band
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  Speaker 2: right below it, and then you have this this layering
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  Speaker 2: of detritus. This just garbage that lays homogeneously across the
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  Speaker 2: entire lower courses of the coffer and pyramid. And I
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  Speaker 2: call that detritis. It is actually the remnants of these
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  Speaker 2: dissolved stones. There's no chippings there, there's no shattered stones,
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  Speaker 2: It's all dissolved detritus. And at the base of the
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  Speaker 2: pyramid you have what is called travertine, which is reconstituted limestone,
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  Speaker 2: which means that the sludge that resulted from this dissolution
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  Speaker 2: what is called carbonic acid dissolution of the limestone casing stones.
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  Speaker 2: This sludge was heavier than water, fell to the bottom,
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  Speaker 2: formed like a paste at the bottom, and then when
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  Speaker 2: the oceans receded, it hardened again into a a surface
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  Speaker 2: called travertine. During the eighteen hundreds, that travertine was everywhere
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  Speaker 2: of each Scientists estimate that one face of one pyramid
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  Speaker 2: was about seventy five thousand metric tons. The travertine that
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  Speaker 2: existed at the base of all those faces, four for
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  Speaker 2: each of the pyramids, so all eight faces for the
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  Speaker 2: two pyramids was fifty five thousand tons. Did somebody would
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  Speaker 2: somebody bring that in and put it on top of
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  Speaker 2: the pyramid? Why would they put travertine? How could they
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  Speaker 2: put travertine on top of the lower courses of the pyramid?
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  Speaker 2: They can't. It had to have come from carbonic acid
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  Speaker 2: dissolution and oceanic submersion one hundred percent. And then if
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  Speaker 2: you look at that title band at the top of Cofrey,
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  Speaker 2: it matches exactly the title banding from sea state zero
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  Speaker 2: to sea state eight. And I'm qualified forty five years,
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  Speaker 2: qualified officer of the Deck. I've been a blue water
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  Speaker 2: sailor for those forty five years. Graduate of the Annapolis
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  Speaker 2: Sailing School, Graduate of Georgia, NA Institute of Technologies navigation
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  Speaker 2: courses over two years, graduate of the Navy's navigation certification programs,
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  Speaker 2: and been at sea and an officer of the deck
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  Speaker 2: for forty five years or a skipper for forty five years.
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  Speaker 2: I know what tidal banding looks like. I know why
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  Speaker 2: it's there. I know this thing called karst erosion, and
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  Speaker 2: what we see is krst erosion on you know, twenty
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  Speaker 2: million or three million year old fixtures or you know
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  Speaker 2: shoreline configurations. That's one thing. But when you have a
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  Speaker 2: fresh set of tural limestone, which is not a durable
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  Speaker 2: it's a cement more than it is a concretion. It's
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  Speaker 2: not very durable against ocean water because it's it's below
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  Speaker 2: the ocean. It doesn't get exposed to the ocean when
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  Speaker 2: it comes out of the ocean bed. It's actually you know,
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  Speaker 2: covered by silt, a layer of silt, marine silt that
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  Speaker 2: shields that tural limestone. The ocean builds that limestone. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was the goodness I'm trying to I
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  Speaker 2: think it was the Eocene in which the Turreal limestone
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  Speaker 2: was deposited. That limestone, once it's exposed up in the
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  Speaker 2: air and then inundated by ocean, then that limestone is
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  Speaker 2: vulnerable to carbonic acid dissolution, and indeed that's what happened
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  Speaker 2: to the surface the casing stones of the coffer And pyramid.
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  Speaker 2: In contrast the mo Cottum limestone, which is more of
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  Speaker 2: a concretion. It's not a cement, it's a concretion. It's
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  Speaker 2: much much harder. You can't really wrap it up inside
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  Speaker 2: of Moe's hardness. But if you had to roughly equate
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  Speaker 2: the backing or load bearing stones in the pyramid, the
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  Speaker 2: ones that we see on the lower portion of the
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  Speaker 2: Kaffer And pyramid, those are about a Mos five, maybe
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  Speaker 2: a Mos six when you get to the hardest stones.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at the Tura limestone casing stones,
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  Speaker 2: those are Mose two or three. So that's why they dissolved,
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  Speaker 2: but the backing stones didn't. And so we were left
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  Speaker 2: with this wonderful, wonderful testament to an ancient oceanic inundation
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  Speaker 2: that covered the majority of the kaffer And Pyramid and
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  Speaker 2: thankfully stabilized right near the top for some period of time.
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  Speaker 2: And it gave us the major clue as to what
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  Speaker 2: has occurred in our past, and that really lit off
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  Speaker 2: much of the ECDO theory research pathway what I call
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  Speaker 2: the critical path. It's a term out of systems engineering.
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  Speaker 2: Critical path keeps you disciplined on the questions that you
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  Speaker 2: need to answer to prosecute a subject. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: launched me on the critical path.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so Roger, so there from what I'm gathering about
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  Speaker 1: three kind of underlying themes. He one of them is
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  Speaker 1: the timeline is wrong. Another is that there is suppression
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  Speaker 1: or cover up, and then the other is the water.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's fascinating. I just don't know, Quid. You go
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  Speaker 1: to the first point that you were alluding to, and
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  Speaker 1: that's the cover up. Why would this be suppressed? Why
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  Speaker 1: would mainstream archaeology not want this information in the mainstream.
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  Speaker 2: Well, your average archaeologist is not trying to suppress information.
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  Speaker 2: They're just defending the narrative. And when you're a professional,
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  Speaker 2: your first instinct is going to be to defend the
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  Speaker 2: industry standards and the narratives that you operate by. And
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  Speaker 2: I battled that inside systems engineering and actually a value
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  Speaker 2: chained strategy for decades trying to get people off this
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  Speaker 2: idea that lowest cost equals best business. It doesn't. And
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  Speaker 2: I've run a very successful retail and retailer and catalog
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  Speaker 2: and I know this well. Lowest cost does not win you.
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  Speaker 2: Lowest cost basically is what you do when you've already
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  Speaker 2: conquered the industry and you're just extracting earnings to gift
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  Speaker 2: outsiders so they can trade those earnings. Then you go
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  Speaker 2: lowest cost. And that's the phase of crony capitalism that
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  Speaker 2: we reside in now in the United States. But the
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  Speaker 2: rationale behind all these innocent archaeologists who are just defending
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  Speaker 2: the narrative. An example was given. People sent me like
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  Speaker 2: six or eight historical accounts that say that the Pyramids
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  Speaker 2: were covered with gleaming white casing stones by Arab historians
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  Speaker 2: in the anywhere from six to eighty to about twelve
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  Speaker 2: hundred or AD excuse me or common eracee. And so
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  Speaker 2: when I go in look at all six of those recitations,
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  Speaker 2: I find that not only did they not say that
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  Speaker 2: the Pyramids were covered in smooth, gleaming white casing stones,
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  Speaker 2: not one word I did a word search through all
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  Speaker 2: of them, Not one time was that ever said. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: in over half of those recitations, the Islamic historians made
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  Speaker 2: it clear that when they ascended or they paid someone.
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  Speaker 2: Ebenala'sease in particular, paid a local boy to ascend the
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  Speaker 2: pyramid head. He ascended the pyramid in a matter of
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  Speaker 2: a few minutes, was able to go to the top
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  Speaker 2: and use his turbine to measure the eroded platform, already
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  Speaker 2: flat platform because the pyramidian had been removed, moved long ago,
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  Speaker 2: and it came back down in a matter of minutes.
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  Speaker 2: And he said he ascended and descended as if one
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  Speaker 2: would a series of stairs. Over half of the Islamic
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  Speaker 2: historian recitations cited that same condition, that the pyramids, the
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  Speaker 2: courses as they're called now, that each level as they
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  Speaker 2: called them, were assembled as if a flight of stairs.
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  Speaker 2: And they said that about Kafferin, and they said that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: about Cufu. So it's clear that even through six p't
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: eighty AD or CE, that the casing stones were missing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: This is an example of where where archaeologists don't actually
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: test their own standing dogma because of the fear that
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: they have that if they step outside the bounds of
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: propriety inside their discipline, they will be punished, So that
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: that virtual power that they're reacting to is what I
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: suspect exists. The same thing that they fear is the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: thing that I want to identify. I want to know
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: why the archaeologists are terrified to step out of convention,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and I want to know who's stimulating this discussion, what
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: percent of archaeologists are complicit in it? And the answer
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: is only a placeholder term. Unfortunately, there is a power
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that is basically threatened archaeology. You will not disclose, You
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: will not dig up any more of go Beckley Tepe.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You will not investigate the syringes under the coffin nor
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the Kufu pyramid. No passages will be excavated, No carbon
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: dating will be done on any of the organic material
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: we found, except for the seed or plank. And when
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: they got those results, they saw what a mistake they
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: had made by doing that. You think about the the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: red ochre inscriptions in the relieving chambers above the King's
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: chamber in the Kufu pyramid. That red ochre has a
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: vehicle and a binder, which is organic. All red ochre
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: is assembled with a vehicle and a binder, and there's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: also a primer adhesive, and of course the die itself,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: which was his iron oxide. But the vehicle in the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: binder are organic. All I have to do is go
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: in and take a small flake sample off of one
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: of those red acre paintings inside the relieving chambers and
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: carbon date it. But they won't do that because they
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: know that it will date to eighteen sixty seven, the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: year that Howard Weiss entered the all of those chambers
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and did so by himself for about three hours in
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: each chamber and then mysteriously invited in somebody behind him
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to then document the markings on the wall. So long
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: winded answer to your question, Jeram, there is an agency
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and I use this in that in the intelligence definition,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and I do have a background in naval intelligence as
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: when I was a naval officer. Agency is that placeholder
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: presence that motivates curious actions on the part of actors
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: that you're monitoring. You have to project agency. It is
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: a placeholder. It is a theory, it's a hypothesis many times,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: but these archaeologists are held in check by an agency
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: which is terrified of go Beckley Tepe, terrified of Carahan Tepe,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: terrified of the Giza plateau.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Why though, what would it reveal?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's just the classic you know, it'll
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: it'll disempower ancient institutions, and of course a lot of
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: money would shift its flavoring, and it's coloring to more.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you would call it ambitious or
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: alternative or conspiracy minded activity. They certainly don't want to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: lose that money. But I think the fear revolves around
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: something more than money. It's existential. It's ontological. Apologize for
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: using all these fancy philosophy words, but existential means that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: it is stark and of a nature that is broader
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and with more gravitas than mere money, and is ontological
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: in that it has to do with the nature of
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: man's being, our origins, and our history that is being
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: concealed from us. For instance, when you look at pillar
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: forty three at go Beckley Tepe, we just we hear
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: about it was hunter gatherers building a temple. It was
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: symbolic and a skull cult and it was assembled in
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: ninety six hundred BCE. But when you map out the
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: actual asterisms on pillar forty three and lay them out
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: in Stellaria more in Starry Night Pro eight, that's my
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: preferred astronomy package, it's clear. I mean, it's unequivocal, just
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: giving every chance to the null hypothesis. It's one in
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: ten thousand chants that it doesn't match a star asterism
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: pattern from fourteen thousand, eight hundred BCE. Why wouldn't anybody
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: do that? It's very easy to do. Why did newe
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and archaeology step forward and publish study that would have
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: made their career if they had published a study saying, hey,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a broken pillar forty three, I know what the asterisms mean.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: It doesn't date to ninety six hundred BCE, it dates
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: to fifty two hundred years prior to that. And then
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: ask the question why number one, why do we have
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the reuse of an item that was clearly carved for
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: a date in fourteen thy eight hundred BCE. And then two,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: why do we insist on concealing that? And why do
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: we take that once we Once we've found out that
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: this set of asterisms, this pillar was communicating a cataclysm
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: from fourteen thousand, eight hundred BCE by the procession of
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the equinoxes. That's how I dated the pillar. We decided, uh, oh,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: we ought not dig up any more pillars because pillar
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: forty three should not even have been in the social discourse.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: You know, it's one thing if you've got a hog
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: or you've got a snake carved onto a stone, that
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't really mean anything, you know, and it's out of
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: its context. It actually does have beating, but you have
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to have context before you coach it. But that pillar
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: was one of the foundational Rosetta stone pillars, Pillar forty three,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: and its interpretation breaks the archaeological narrative, falsifies it. And
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: again there they are terrified of that answer. And I
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: think that's the reason why they planted the olive trees
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: across And then there was no coincidence. Olive trees just
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: happened to be on top of the most sensitive acreage
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: of the site, the sites, the locations where the most
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: valuable troves of topology would be held. They put trees
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: on top of that with impunity. Exactly where those positions were.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: They weren't random placements. Fortunately, we've pulled the trees or
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: cut the trees. But unfortunately, when you cut a tree down,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: its roots continue to grow unless you extract the stump.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And unfortunately there are hundreds and maybe a couple thousand
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: of these trees, so they can pull up all the stumps.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Those roots will continue to grow and reach down and
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: destroy as many artifacts as this agency wanted destroyed. So
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: these irresponsible actions, these hint at agency that is terrifying
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the members of archaeology. Ethical skepticism says, you need to
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: stand up, put on big boy pants, use big boy rules,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: as the Navy Seals call it, and start doing your job.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: No more of this agency fear.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So if the timeline is wrong, that would also throw
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: into question pretty much everything that we think we understand.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, the mainstream narrative is that life started simplistically
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and has over time become more advanced. What this kind
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: of argument suggests is that history could be cyclical.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, And what ecdo theory proposes as a hypothesis is
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: that that cyclical history is driven by a cyclical planet.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And the O and ecdo mean oscillation, D means Jenebekov,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: which means, if you've seen the video and the space
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: station video, the Russian astronaut Jenebekov determined that if he
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: spun a wingnut off of its threaded bolt, that it
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: would spin, and it spun as expected, but then it
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: did something unexpected. It flipped one hundred and eighty degrees
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: on its axis, and it took years for scientists to
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: realize that this is a zero iner energy natural state
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: of a rotating body. Are three moment rotating body in
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: space unforded. Unfortunately, our Earth is not a bowling ball.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: It's not homogeneous. It is an isotropic, and that simply
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: means that it's not evenly masked in every direction going
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: out from the center of the Earth. As you head
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: toward the Pacific, or excuse me, as you head toward
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the Pacific rim and as you head towards South America,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: there are heavier moments there that exceed the moments under
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Africa and in the middle of the Pacific, and that
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: imbalance that an isotropic nature of the Earth causes as
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Jannebekov like flip. But that's not the that's not really
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the only thing that occurs periodically. I believe the Sun
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: will introduce what is called a geomagnetic excursion to our
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: magnetic north pole. Our magnetic north pole was in Canada
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: when I grew up. When I was going through navigation,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Nathaniel Boutich sided eleven point seven degrees as the variation
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: between magnetic north and true north. True north is the
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: actual rotational axis of the Earth, or the direction that
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: that axis points in the sky and hits polaris the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: north star. The magnetic north was somewhat west of that
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: or left of that eleven point seven degrees. We had
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: to use that in all our sight reduction calculations, in
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: navigation on ship, and in of course in school, so
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I had that memorized or ran into it. Well. That
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: changed starting in nineteen seventy three, commensurate with the planet
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: heating up or the ocean's heating up technically, and then
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: the air heats up after that, the atmosphere heats up
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: after that. At the same time that our planet began
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: its hyper one point five degree celsius excursion and temperature,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: as climate scientists have pointed out, at that same time,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: our magnetic field began a precipitous weakening in its strength.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: And then the north pole, the magnetic north pole, took
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: off out of Canada, across the Arctic and is now
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: headed into Russia. But curiously we mentioned the cyclic nature
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: of the Earth, It's heading on the same path that
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: it has done periodically over the last measurable set of excursions.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Principally one is the la Champ excursion which Curdy two
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: thousand years ago La Champ two. I believe that was
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it's migrating along the same pathway there. What Ecdo proposes
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: is that periodically the Earth goes into these resets, that
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: one of the resets was the flood of Noah, who
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: had put flood in quotation barks there because it's not
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: actually a flood technically, it's an inundation cataclysm. The inundation
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: of atrahasis, the inundation of Zusidra, the inundation of Utnapishtam,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and the epic of Gilgamesh, the inundation of Gongon out
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: of China. One hundred and seventy five myths cite this,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: this cyclical nature of mankind and the cyclical nature of
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the planet more than one hundred and seventy five myths.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So what you raise their germ is an absolutely valid
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: and concerning principle that mankind and indeed life on this
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: planet have learned to evolve around the cyclical nature of
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: this planet. E Cdo just fabric fabricates, just performs, or
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: submits the first true scientific hypothesis of this nature.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Come on, Roger. The narrative is that of a whole
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: bunch of slaves with chisels and hammers, both the permits.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the things that you learn in systems
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: engineering and industrial engineering, both engineering sets, is a thing
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: called work content measurement. And you cut your teeth on
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that when you first get into an advisory firm or
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you get into an operations firm. And what you do
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: is you measure the work that's entailed on any given task,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and you look at the task sequence of activities and determined, hey,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: is this being done right? How much work content? How
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: many minutes of standardized work? And you do this through
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: a thing called a rate derivation form. I did thousands
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and thousands of rate derivation forms in the construction industry.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: So if you took one brick and stacked it on
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: top of another on the mortar that you just laid,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I identified the work content that was involved in that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: In my younger you know, wet behind the ears green years,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and did thousands and thousands of those rate derivation forms.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I know how to do work content measurement. I know
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: how to do it from observing a process, and I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: know how to do it by watching the in state
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: of construction. I've been the design engineer, not a mechanical engineer. Necessarily,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: they do a lot of the shop drawings in the
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: detailed engineering. But I've been the design engineer, which means
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I arrive a year before the building is built, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I leave a year after the building has been accepted
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: and is doing what it is supposed to be doing.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I'm there the whole time, watching every single step of
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the engineering. I've built over one hundred and fifty one
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand square feet or larger buildings during my career,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: and I know how the work content imparts cost into
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: those structures because the costs that I estimate have to perform.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: If I tell a client that the building is going
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: to cost forty million dollars and it ends up costing
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: forty three million dollars, I'm going to get fired. So
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I have to under accountability identify the work content that
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: is involved in the assembly of a large structure. The
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: largest one I ever engineered was four point four million
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: square feet, and the complexity of that project was far
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: greater than the complexity of the CUFU engineering project. Now
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: difficulty CUFU was more difficult. However, when I looked at
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: those stones, when I went out on site working for
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: the Egyptian client. I was able to identify the elements
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: that impart an understanding of work content and developed actually
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: rate derivation forms for the stacking of these stones, the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: moving of the stones from the cutting of the stones,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the finishing of the stones, the apportionment of the stones
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: to those to the river traffic that was bringing it
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: down to the pyramid, the handling, the staging, the sorting,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the stacking, all those things that go on in real life,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the pre staging, the lift of the stones, the placement,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the rolling, the final finishing, the superintendent's time. And if
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you extrapolate all that out to the broader community in Egypt,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: you have to police the people, the workers. You have
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to feed them, you've got to take waste away and
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: garbage away. You've got to defend them with a military force.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You've got to have support structures all behind these workers.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: So just assembling the work content and determining how many
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: workers are required to build this building is not That's
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: just the first step. You have layer upon layer, And
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: what I determined is that probably it took a population
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: of about one point eight million people to build that
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: pyramid in the time frame that was identified by Herodotus
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: in his book The Third Book in Histories, which was
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: written in for forty BCE. The third book is called
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: an Account of Egypt, and he said that the pyramid
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: was built in twenty years based on the rate derivation
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: forums Iran. There's absolutely no way. However, if we're given
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: unlimited resources and no interruption of work, one point eight
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: million people would have been required to be directly supporting
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: or working on that pyramid. It would have left the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: country defenseless. It would have been such a foolish maneuver
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: on the part of Pharaoh Cufu that he would have
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: endangered his entire family's dynasty. He would have been irresponsible
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: to the ancestors. An outside force could have come in
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: and conquered them if he lost the political will. When
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: these one point eight million people got frustrated that the ramp,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: they built it with a ramp. Every time the ramp breaks,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: the construction has to stop. People who propose ramps have
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: never built anything in their life. If you roll two
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: point five million, two to two and a half to
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: eighty ton stones across a ramp, that ramp is going
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: to deteriorate. When that ramp deteriorates or structurally fails, you
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: shut down the project until you can rebuild that ramp.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: So this fairy tale that archaeology has foisted, you know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it stems a little bit from Herodotus' accounting, has served
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: to obfuscate the true amount of work content in these stones.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: So it's obvious I think the stones were asembled by humans.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: The question is what humans, when, and how much of
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: this humanity was required to build these edifices. It was
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: something extraordinarily outside the context of either the technology or
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the social capability of old Kingdom Egypt. And that's absolutely
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: clear if you're an engineer that has the background I've got.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no possible way there could have been primitive people.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I went into the Queen's Chamber, the first
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: thing that I saw, the first thing that hit me,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how come nobody has seen this? Is that
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the limestone has been quicklime deteriorated around the east passage
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: in each in the Queen's chamber. In fact, it's just
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: as you come out of that niche, it's a little
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: it's like a fireplace on the east side of the
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Queen's Chamber, and as you come out of the fireplace,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: the limestone has termed turned into quicklime just above that opening,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: which requires greater than thirteen hundred degrees celsius temperatures. How
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: do you get that? And then as you look above that,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: there's a presence there of vitrification that I call leoparding.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It's where the impurities in the limestone they turned to
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: glass and they turned brown, and so it looks like
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: leopard spots. That happens at about nine hundred to eleven
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: hundred degrees celsius. So it patterns up just as if
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: heat was coming out of that passage. You have the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: quicklimeb giving way to a broad pattern all across the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: ceiling and ranging across the other side of the Queen's
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: chamber of leoparding. So there's no doubt high heat was
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: in the Queen's chamber of the pyramid. The question is
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: if there are no combustion revenue residues, and you didn't
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: have the room inside that niche to assemble that large
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: of a fire a combustion source in the first place,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: so we know there was no fire there. The only
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: alternatives that are left are electrical energy or nuclear energy.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think we have the isotopic alterations of the
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: limestone that would indicate that powerful nuclear radiological source. Actually,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: there's no doubt that by deduction that that passage handled
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: what is called low voltage, high amperage. We use the
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: inverse of that today, we use higher voltage, lower amperage
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: for safety reasons. But this was actually exposed to low voltage,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: high amperage, high resistance electrical power. So Christopher Dunn's theory
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's absolute validity. However, the energy was used
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: right there in the room, because you don't if you
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: have high resistance that produces heat, that means you're using
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the energy. Otherwise you've messed up. And if they knew
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: how to generate that much electoral power, they knew about
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: resistance and when not to have resistance and when to
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: have resistance. That room had a high degree of resistance
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: in it. Whatever was in that room, and it caused
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: those heat signatures. So the question is what device existed
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: in that room and what was being used for well.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Max Zamelov also argues that some form of electrical power
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: or nuclear power could have been used there.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I spent you know, a good bit of time with
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: nuclear training in the Navy in two years in the
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Nuclear Engineering School at Georgia Institute of Technology. So the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: alterations that happen to the casing of a nuclear reactor,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: you can detect the isotopic alterations that occur when you've
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: exposed a concreted or cemented stone like limestone to alpha radiation,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: beta radiation, gamma radiation, fast neutrons, and thermal neutrons. The
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: five components that you know result from a nuclear reaction.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: All of those, with the exception of properly probably alpha
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: partic well, even the alpha particles would exist institute. It
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: would exist in the matre of the nearest limestone. All
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: of them would exhibit specific patterns that we would look for.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Number one, why hasn't science looked for those? Again this
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: defaulting to the narrative as an excuse. But number two,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think that those features exist. Just like when
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: if you burn a fire inside the pyramid, the carbon
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: residues are going to be on the stone and in
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: the what is called the interstitial matrix of the stone
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: for tens of thousands of years, So you're not going
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to be able to hide it unless you just remove
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: the stones entirely. So I think that we're left with
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: this heat signature issue, and the only energy source that
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: is within the normal context of humanity or achievable by
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: quasi humanity earlier versions of humanity, it remains electrical energy.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I think the quick lime melting there just matches the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: feed of a high average low voltage current very very well,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: but not nuclear and not combustion.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think if anybody just looks at the
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: design of these pyramids, if you just look at a
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: what did you call it, like a dissection of it,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: it makes no sense to the layman that this was
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: a tomb. The whole tomb narrative probably came much later
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: on in history. You would you agree with that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. It was clear that they were trying to enforce
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: it when how Our Advice entered the relieving chambers in
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: eighteen sixty seven, so they already had their plan in
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: place and they put pressure. How Advice was not an archaeologist.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: He was actually a military intelligence specialist who had a
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: fascination with egyptology. Well from being an intelligence One of
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the chief tactics of those agencies, smaller agencies with a
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: small a those agencies love smart, obedient, but dumb individuals,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: and that's why they thrive on. They want you to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: be tactically smart, so that inside your compartment as it
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: is called in black intelligence, and I held four compartments
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: when I was in Black intelligence. When you're inside that compartment,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: you need to do your job well. Number one, you
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: need to be obedient to what the assignment is, number two,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: and then number three you need to be dumb about
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: everything else and the broader picture. And that's what makes
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: a good intelligence analyst. And that's exactly what how advice was.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: He was obedient and he was dumb. In fact, he
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: made some mistakes when he forged those ochre painting marks
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: in the relieving chambers, some fatal mistakes. And that's principally
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: why they don't want to look at those anymore. They
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: just want to say, oh, the name of Kufu Mejidu
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: A Kutum Kouf was in the pyramid. You know, fourteen
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: hundred years of names for one guy are all painted
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: in a pyramid that was built in twenty years where
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: they all the stone quarrymen, all Egyptologists. How did they
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: know all three names? But an academician from the eighteen
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: sixties would know the three names, or at least two
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: of the three names, so I think the buffoonery that
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: existed there. I think that Weiss was probably not as
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: smart as they needed. For instance, he painted the red
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: ochre over the ten thousand year old patina on the surface,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the finished surface of the limestone blocks. There's limestone blocks
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: were laid in situ, fully surface finished and clean. There
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: are two types of patina that now exist on those blocks.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: There's a go a type patina, which is orange, and
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: then an anaerobic patina, which is black. Both of those
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: are on the stone upon which the kukof Cartouche is painted,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: and that red ochre is painted over that patina without exception.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: So there's no possible way it's quad rot demonstration. There's
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: no possible way that those red ocre marks were from
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: antiquity or the fourth dynasty of Egypt. It falsifies the narrative.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: The narrative is a zombie theory. It's still walking around,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: but it's dead as a door nail, and Egyptology, to
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: their discredit, will not admit this. Most of them won't
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: even see it.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I think one of the most interesting talking points around
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: the Pyramids is the flood. The water. I've heard this
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: before a few times, and I find it incredibly fascinating.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Take me through that.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Well. A flood technically is when you have water that
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: rises because of let's say a creek bed gets an
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: excessive amount of rain, and its propagation downstream causes lake
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: levels and reservoir levels and eddy pocket levels to rise
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: and threaten, you know, the one hundred year flood plain
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: around it. When we built buildings, we had to be
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: outside the fifty year floodplaine. Fortunately, we do have fairly
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: good tracking, not in every case, of the history of floods,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: inside our surveying database for the United States, and we
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: put lace our buildings around the green space and the
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: fifty one hundred year floodplains that exist from that data.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: But a flood typically is when the rivers rise or
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: back up. That's not what happened in the case of
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Noah in particulars let's use Noah. Let's equate Noah totn
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: epistem or ziscidra or utrahasis. What they cited was a
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: cataclysm and an inundation. The Bible sided a flood because
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: that made more sense to its target audience at the time.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: They wanted people to understand what they were. They wanted
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: them to understand, but not comprehend. When you understand something,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: you say, ah, I'm familiar with that. I know what
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: a blood is. Now I understand the waters rose and
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: killed everybody. Well, that's understanding, but it's not comprehension. Comprehension
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: is Wait a minute, that can't be a flood. I mean,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: look at the look at the source documents. The water
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: came from the ocean, rapidly surmounted the citadel of Susa
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: first and then came crashing over into the valley. That's
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: not a flood. That's a cascading inundation from from the ocean.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: The only way that can happen. It can't happen from
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the polar ice caps melting. The only way that can
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: happen is through an aberrant geo otation what is called
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: a Euler rotation. There's a hidden axis that the Earth
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: will rotate around that that precipitates this Jennebekov rotation, and
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: it does so once every so often inside mankind and
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Earth's history.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: So it can I jump in on big point, but
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: is that is that what the younger.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Drives was, Well, the younger drives is a very complicated period.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: It's centers around what is called the black mat, and
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: inside the black mate we have a higher ridium one
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: fifty one I believe it is. I can't remember the
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: isotope number, but we have a higher ridium content in
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: that black mat, which suggests an impact. And I think
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: there are good credible theories or hypotheses around the impact
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: theory of the Younger Dryas. However, the younger Dryas was
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: a good fourteen hundred to seventeen hundred years long, and
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: inside of it, or bookending bracketing either side of the
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Younger Dryus, was these events called meltwater pulse one A
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: and meltwater pulse one B. And these events they say, well,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the water melted rapidly at the poles, and this water
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: cascaded across the planet and drowned a lot of animals
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: and submerged a lot of geostrata. There's no way that
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the melting of the poles could cause the damage that's
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: observable in the Gobi Desert or the American Southwest, or
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: the Saudy Desert, you know, the goodness, the Sahara. There's
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: no way a melting polar ice cap could cause that
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: much inundation potential and then recede back that quickly. So
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: they call it a meltwater pulse because they don't want
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: to say a Euler rotation inundation technically, which is what
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: ECDO theory proposes.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So say, if I'm following correctly, it's like a wobble
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: or a very immediate kind of shake that would then
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: cause that flooding.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Earth keeps rotating as it normally does in
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: terms of our equatorial rotation. It's however, it presents a
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: new surface to the North Star, so it's a different
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: it's a zero energy rotation if you think about it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: There are two different types that of tilt if you will,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: that people colloquially speak about in our social discourse. One
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: is called an obliquity tilt. Venus and Urinus are both
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: obliquity tilted. In order to do that, you got to
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: have an enormous amount of external energy. That's not what
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: ECDO theory presupposes. ECDO theory cites what's called an inertial
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: interchange true polar wander, and what that is is just
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: simply the outside body is somewhat similar to Hapgood's construct
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't call Charles Hapgoods nocean a a theory because
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: he didn't have the elements of hypothesis in it. But
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: it's a cool idea. It's an excellent construct, and that's
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: where you start when you develop hypotheses, you start with
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: a construct. He said that the outside body of the Earth,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: like the skin of an orange, rotates independently and presents
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: a new surface to the North Star. His sighting was
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: that that caused the inundations. So that was the first
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: thinking really that centered around this type of idea. What
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: ECDO theory postulates is that this decoupling instead of happening
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: at the crust where there really isn't a mechanism to decouple,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: and that really has been one of the things that's
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: kept the theory welched, is there's no viable mechanism there.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: The viable mechanism does exist at the core mantle boundary.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: In fact, it suggests that this is an absolutely stark
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: potential if you look at the core mantle boundary. That's
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: what ECDO proposes, that particular situation in the core mantle
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: boundary causes this outer rotational body to do an inertial interchange.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: True polar wander. A portion of that wander was smooth
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: and gentle within reason. I'm sure the oceans were a
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: little more energetic, but a portion of it during the
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: capture by an inverted geomagnetic pole. In other words, the
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: magnetic pole's north pole was down in Antarctica when it
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: was captured by that When our outer magnetite structure of
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the crust was captured by that pole, it was pulled
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: into location very rapidly, and that's what precipitated these oceans
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: to come up out of their banks. It did exactly
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: what the Gungon historians said. They said that the roll
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: that the sky rolled from the southeast to the northwest,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: and that's exactly what the ecdo rotation presupposes. And we
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: developed the rotation based on the geomechanics. First, we didn't
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: look at the myths, and then we went out and
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: took that geootation and said, okay, let's compare this rotation
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: to the myths that are out there that are informative,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: like the epic of Gilgamesh, like the Gongon theory or
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: the Gongon tradition. And in fact they matched in the geostrata.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: The location of the saline diatomaceous deserts that have iridified
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: across the planet. They all match this ECDO rotation. And
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: that's what the six or eight modeling groups that are
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: working on e CEDO now they're finding unequivocally a good
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: match to the Earth deserts to this inundation of rotation.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: So that would have been quite a quick event.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: A portion of it the capture. Right now, as we
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: understand the differential inertial moments in the Earth, they're not
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: large enough to cause a twelve hour or eighteen hour
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: rotation of the Earth into this new position. However, if
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: we introduce an inverted geomagnetic pole, the geomagnetic pole captures
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the Earth's shell and brings it into alignment with wherever
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: it is. Once the north magnetic pole makes its journey
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: across Asia, the central of central body of Asia, and
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: then through the Bay of Bengal and down into Antarctica
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: below Africa, it reinvigorates, it restrengthens its permeability or its polarity,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: and captures the Earth's body. Except now the Earth, instead
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: of pointing toward our north that we recognize today, it
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: has to point the other direction. And if it's already undergone.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: This decoupling, this Jenebekov rotation is now somewhere wandering slowly
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: in the north pole would be in in southern Africa.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Once the geomagnetic pole captures that earth body, it'll snap
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: it into its final position. And ECDO postulates that that snap,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: that final phase is what indeed precipitated this high energy
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: displacement of the oceans.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: And thus the pyramids ended up underwater.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Correct When we're in state two, most of the modelers
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: right now, they're modeling the viscosity of the mantle, they're
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: modeling the ablate redistribution of the oceans, they're modeling the
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: progression function for each of those and others. It doesn't
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: none of that happens. Most of that doesn't happen immediately
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: the oceans do. They model the speed and arrival of
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: that turn that Genebekov term. Most of them are finding
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: that the height of the ocean about in state two
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: are alternative rotation equates just about that five hundred and
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: ninety seven foot above sea level elevation that put the
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: tidal banding mark on the Kafferin pyramid. So it's a
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: very pleasing set of outcomes in the models so far,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: we had a long way to go on them. But
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the bottelers are just doing absolute gangbuster work.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so basically just the tips of the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: pyramids were sticking out.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, both of them had their tips sticking out. I
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: don't think that their construction at that level was an accident.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I think the ancients wanted to tell us we know
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: exactly how high the water's going to go. This has
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: happened so often and has been so consistent. We know
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: how high the water is going to be. So we're
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: going to build a device or set of devices that
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: both tell you what we were looking at, and the
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: three chambers inside CUFU tell you exactly what they were
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: looking at. And we're going to give you these warning
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: indicators that show the height of the flood. So that
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: ancients know and this agency that keeps us ignorant, there's
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: no way they can unstack these five million stones in
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: their effort to get rid of this. In fact, I
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: don't think they really understood. Most of their minions did
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: not understand what had occurred. These marks on top of
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: the Kaffer and pyramid indicate and fortunately so, or they
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: would have cleaned up all of that. They would have
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: removed those stones in short order had they known that
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: this was indicative of a state II under ECDO theory title.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Band, I mean, I suppose the Sphinx is a whole
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: conversation on its own. But was it underwater too.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, and you can see it. There are two types
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: of erosion. Doctor Robert Shock proposes what is called a
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: verticalized channel erosion, and that comes from brain and wind.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And indeed you have that. You've got about ten thousand
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: years of verticalized channel erosion on the walls of the enclosure,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: the Sphinx enclosure, and then on the Sphinx itself. But
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: underneath that verticalized channel erosion is another type of erosion
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: called karst erosion. Karst erosion comes from inundation with seawater.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: It cannot come from rain, cannot come from wind, cannot
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: come from sand. We don't have an time for that
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: erosion occur even if it did. But it's planarized. It's
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: it's laminar it's planed. It conforms with the plane or
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: the plane of the deposition of that limestone. If you
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: look at it, the sphinx is alternating between four most
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: five most three, most five, most three most five most
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: three most five limestone, and when it was inundated by
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: ocean water, the most three segments eroded more than the
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: most five segments and that was what caused that scooping
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: that exists underneath the verticalized channelized rainwater erosion. So that
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: pointed to a specific period of time. It doesn't. It
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: doesn't point to a specific number of intervening years, but
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: it points to a specific time and says, hey, this
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: entire area was covered in ocean water, not back up
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: of the nile, because the nile would not do this.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Only ocean water carries enough carbon dioxide in form of
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: carbonic acid to achieve this. This charse erosion on both
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: the Sphinx and the Coffere pyramids, so both of them
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: indeed were under ocean water. Yes, and then the channelized
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: verticalized Doctor Robert Shock observation or John Anthony West observation
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: clearly shows the antiquity of the Sphinx as well.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Now, how long would there have been underwater?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: End?
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Were they very water tight?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Let's answer the second question. First, they were indeed very
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: water tight. If you stack up that many stones and
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: they are face finished to provide a you know, an
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: air tight enclosure, and that was their goal. And you
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: stack so many layers of that type, you do achieve
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: air tightness. There's no doubt about that. But to your
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: first question, there are several indices that allow us to
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: make an estimate of how long the pyramids were under
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: this oceanic condition, the state to condition is ecdo theory
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: calls it. The first is the marine silt deposition that
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: is inside the subterranean passage South passage or subterranean chamber
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: South passage. Excuse me, there's a three to four inch
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: marine silt deposition that exists all through that passage, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: it's not a passage that people could crawl into easily.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: But the deposition is very homogeneous, very gentle, and laid
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: down over time. That's marine silt deposition. In the coastal regions,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: it takes about seventy five years for marine silt to
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: deposit to that three inch level. However, in a non
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: communicating in the navy lingo here in the oceanography lingo,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: in a non communicating chamber, say like in a cave,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: the deposition rate is one third one quarter. So if
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: we multiply that out we get roughly three hundred let's say,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: three hundred years of submersion to achieve that marine sediment deposition.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: But as well, if you take the cement of turre
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: limestone and subjugate it to a good dowsing inside or
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: inundation under carbonic acid ocean water, it would take probably
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: four hundred years for those stones to dissolve under both
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: the kinetic action of the waves as well as the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: chemical action of the carbonic acid equation. So about four
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: hundred years. Long winded answer on that. Finally, when you
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: look at it, the travertine that has been dated by
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: a recent study has been shown to be about gosh,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of it. I think it was
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: six thousand years antiquity for the travertine. So it basically
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: formed as a result of our rotation from Ecdo state
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: to back to state one. And there was all that
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: mass of goop at the base of the pyramid. Once
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: the ocean was gone, it re hardened into its own
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  Speaker 2: concrete down at the base of the pyramid, and you
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  Speaker 2: could see it in all the photos from the nineteen
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  Speaker 2: twenties of the pyramids. It exists at every pyramidal base,
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  Speaker 2: every faced base. It was all quote cleaned up for
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  Speaker 2: you know, for tourism. If archaeologists had been worth their salt,
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  Speaker 2: and that's a segue to the next point, they would
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  Speaker 2: have taken robust samples of that travertine and asked the question,
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  Speaker 2: the critical path question from whence could it possibly have
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  Speaker 2: derived arrived? You can't just cart that in and drop
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  Speaker 2: it and have it form travertine. It doesn't work that way,
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  Speaker 2: and it was on top of the workmanship, so it
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  Speaker 2: had to be brought in. Did man bring it in
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  Speaker 2: or did an ocean bring it in? And the ocean
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  Speaker 2: is the only possible he's that term again, quad erat demonstrandum.
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  Speaker 2: The ocean is the only possible means by which that
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  Speaker 2: travertine got there. So when you look at those clues,
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  Speaker 2: they absolutely deductively isolate the case of about an origin
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  Speaker 2: of about nine thy six hundred BCE as the date
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  Speaker 2: of construction for those pyramids. But there's one other tantalizing
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  Speaker 2: clue which everyone's missed, and it's at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the Queen's chamber south air shaft. I call it the
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  Speaker 2: penn ultimate stone. It's right before the closing door that
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  Speaker 2: has the two brackets, which are actually copper cables. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're inside the door. When you look at that ceiling
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  Speaker 2: stone right before that final door, there's a star chart
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  Speaker 2: engraved in it. And being a navigator, of course, I'm
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  Speaker 2: fascinated with star charts, I know what they mean. So
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  Speaker 2: when I take that star chart and a oriented toward
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  Speaker 2: the northern sky, and it is indeed depicting the northern sky,
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  Speaker 2: it's the northern sky in a certain period of time,
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  Speaker 2: and I apply the procession of the equinoxes to it,
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  Speaker 2: I get a date on that stone unequivocally of nine
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  Speaker 2: two hundred BCE. And that's carved into that stone, and
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  Speaker 2: fortunately archaeology can't get up there to erase that. Now
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  Speaker 2: it's been photographed already, and again they didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: they were photographing and released it to the public before
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  Speaker 2: they had a chance for a zaiohwas type actor to
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  Speaker 2: get in there and go no, no, no, erase that,
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  Speaker 2: erase that. We need we need samples of the limestone,
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  Speaker 2: and we want to take the samples right there and
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  Speaker 2: erase this. They didn't do that. So now we have
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  Speaker 2: the star Trek carving, and it gives a clear date
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  Speaker 2: of nine two hundred BCE for the assembly of that
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  Speaker 2: air shaft.
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  Speaker 1: Roger, I want more. Will you come back onto my show?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, yeah. This is a very pleasant venue and
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  Speaker 2: you had some of the best questions I've been given.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so absolutely. All right, Well that's good news. So
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  Speaker 1: for now, how can I follow your work?
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  Speaker 2: You can? You know I always promote. You can obtain
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  Speaker 2: the book. It's called Inversion Ecdo Theory. It's gosh, one hundred,
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  Speaker 2: four hundred and five recitations, academic recitations, one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty analytical figures, so it is dense even compared to
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Wolfram's work or Charles Darwin on the Origin of
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  Speaker 2: Species or Jared diamond Guns Germs is Steal. Those are
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  Speaker 2: the books that I admire and I use as my benchmarks.
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  Speaker 2: This has more depth and recitation than any of those.
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  Speaker 2: So I've spent twenty five years researching the basis of
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  Speaker 2: this book. But you can also go to the Ethical
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  Speaker 2: Skeptic website. It's www dot Ethical skeptic dot com and
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: there you can find all the material for free. You
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  Speaker 2: don't actually have to buy my book. All the images
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  Speaker 2: and analyzes are in five different articles that are on
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  Speaker 2: the site. And then finally, my handle is ethical Skeptic
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  Speaker 2: on X. Those are the three venues that I participate in.
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  Speaker 1: I not just you said X. I still struggle saying X.
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  Speaker 1: I prefer Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still like Twitter as well, but it took
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  Speaker 2: me a while to get the vernacular, get into the
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  Speaker 2: habit of the vernacular there. But now I've got it,
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  Speaker 2: I think. But yeah, I keep a daily presence on X.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Roger Cunningham, thank you for joining me in the.
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  Speaker 2: Trenches Jeremy has been a pleasure. Loved it.