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22 Panels Episode #245 - Step By Bloody Step · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to 22 panels.
• 0:08
  Tad Eggleston: I am Tad, he is Phil, Tyler is MIA.
• 0:13
  Phil: He's webbed up to the wall this time. He had a web malfun.
• 0:16
  Tad Eggleston: Something like that, something like that.
• 0:21
  Tad Eggleston: And, yeah, this is… this is 245!
• 0:26
  Tad Eggleston: Episodes.
• 0:28
  Tad Eggleston: Week in, week out.
• 0:30
  Tad Eggleston: and 902 total.
• 0:34
  Tad Eggleston: Which is just crazy.
• 0:35
  Phil: It's, it.
• 0:36
  Tad Eggleston: Do you think we'll make a thousand by our five year anniversary? That's my question.
• 0:41
  Phil: Oh, wait, the five year anniversary. Oh, wait, that's right. Because the first, the first recorded episode was that November.
• 0:51
  Phil: Like, the first time you guys sat down to record, was that in November or February?
• 0:55
  Tad Eggleston: No, it was either October or November. October. So the last week of October or the first week of November.
• 1:01
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:02
  Tad Eggleston: of… 2021. I'm looking it up right now.
• 1:06
  Phil: It's close to my wedding anniversary. That was the weird part about it, you know?
• 1:12
  Phil: from… I mean, I forget if it was posted date or recording date, but I remember it was close… close November 13th there, but
• 1:20
  Phil: A thousand… a thousand by then? I don't think so. I don't think so.
• 1:26
  Phil: That would… you would need to… to average…
• 1:30
  Phil: out of… it's not even… not even a full year until then. You've got July to November, so that's, like, 4 months. You would need to do, like.
• 1:41
  Phil: What, 3 podcasts a day to hit 1,000 by November?
• 1:46
  Tad Eggleston: What are you talking about?
• 1:49
  Phil: Well, because that's a that's a that's a thousand to do to do 100 podcasts in three months.
• 1:55
  Tad Eggleston: Well, 3… 3 months is… I mean, like…
• 2:00
  Phil: It's like 90 days.
• 2:01
  Phil: Right. Okay, so more than a podcast a day.
• 2:06
  Phil: I need to average more than a podcast a day to hit 1,000 by November.
• 2:10
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 2:14
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see, our anniversary is November 13th.
• 2:20
  Phil: Yep, I knew it. That's my wedding annivers.
• 2:22
  Tad Eggleston: November 13th.
• 2:25
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 2:32
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see…
• 2:36
  Phil: I mean, I'm telling you, I don't, I'm just saying I don't know.
• 2:48
  Tad Eggleston: So, november… 13th.
• 2:56
  Tad Eggleston: 2026.
• 3:02
  Tad Eggleston: is 116 days.
• 3:06
  Tad Eggleston: Away.
• 3:07
  Phil: Okay, so…
• 3:09
  Tad Eggleston: We'd need to do 98.
• 3:11
  Phil: 98, okay. Okay.
• 3:15
  Phil: So not quite one a day.
• 3:16
  Tad Eggleston: So it's not quite as crazy as.
• 3:20
  Phil: All right.
• 3:21
  Phil: I don't know why I thought… I thought you needed to do a thousand podcasts in three months. My… I am spiraling.
• 3:27
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, I'm, I'm, I'm That crazy.
• 3:32
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 3:33
  Phil: Just constantly record everything you do.
• 3:36
  Tad Eggleston: I would, I wouldn't have even suggested something that crazy.
• 3:39
  Phil: Just hour and a half increments of your life. That's 22 panels now.
• 3:45
  Tad Eggleston: But.
• 3:46
  Tad Eggleston: I, I think whether or not I can get to a thousand… by… I think…
• 3:52
  Phil: You can definitely get to a thousand by the end of the year.
• 3:55
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, no, I think I won't even have to try to get to 1000 by the end of.
• 3:59
  Phil: That's what I mean, yeah, that's.
• 4:00
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I mean, if you think about it like.
• 4:05
  Tad Eggleston: We're at 900 episodes.
• 4:07
  Phil: -Hu.
• 4:08
  Tad Eggleston: at 4 and 3 quarters, I mean, like, we're on pace for 1,000 by the end of the year.
• 4:14
  Phil: Yeah, I.
• 4:15
  Tad Eggleston: But,
• 4:22
  Tad Eggleston: I was actually just thinking, like, November is generally when the baseball roundtable is, so, like, if it even works out so that the baseball roundtable winds up being…
• 4:33
  Phil: You could you could definitely do.
• 4:34
  Tad Eggleston: 1000, that'd be pretty cool.
• 4:37
  Phil: That would be pretty cool. I think it could be 975. You do 975 milestone.
• 4:43
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, we'll find out.
• 4:45
  Phil: That's still… that.
• 4:46
  Tad Eggleston: We'll find out. I mean, the number of times that I've wound up doing six or seven episodes over a weekend between book clubs and.
• 4:53
  Phil: And.
• 4:53
  Tad Eggleston: Version.
• 4:54
  Tad Eggleston: You know, if you get off your ass and do some more dye…
• 4:57
  Phil: Yeah, I do. I need to announce to the group the plans for for our next.
• 5:04
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, seriously, like.
• 5:07
  Tad Eggleston: Let's just take a… take a quick look.
• 5:10
  Tad Eggleston: Die is supposed to be every four weeks. I know. And it's been eight months.
• 5:16
  Phil: I know! I… I… I blame society.
• 5:19
  Tad Eggleston: I would… I would have 9 more episodes.
• 5:23
  Phil: Okay, if you're not.
• 5:24
  Tad Eggleston: You had been doing your job.
• 5:26
  Phil: If you're nine shy by the baseball round table of 1000, then we'll have to put an asterisk in there.
• 5:33
  Phil: You know, saying that, you know.
• 5:36
  Tad Eggleston: You know what's really, really crazy, ironic, Phil?
• 5:39
  Phil: What's up.
• 5:40
  Tad Eggleston: And I just noticed this.
• 5:41
  Phil: -Hu.
• 5:43
  Tad Eggleston: One of our most downloaded episodes.
• 5:48
  Tad Eggleston: Is die 12.
• 5:50
  Phil: Interesting.
• 5:52
  Tad Eggleston: We had 100 downloads.
• 5:54
  Phil: Wow.
• 5:54
  Tad Eggleston: on that.
• 5:55
  Phil: Wow.
• 5:57
  Phil: That is fascinating.
• 5:59
  Phil: Number 12.
• 5:59
  Tad Eggleston: It is. That was the previous one. Yeah.
• 6:02
  Phil: Holy cow.
• 6:04
  Phil: I guess I it's like we need to keep doing it or something.
• 6:08
  Tad Eggleston: And then and then you drop the ball.
• 6:10
  Phil: I really love the ball.
• 6:11
  Tad Eggleston: Alfred.
• 6:11
  Phil: I…
• 6:12
  Tad Eggleston: eight months.
• 6:12
  Phil: I will once again blame society and hope that I can get it back together and not drop the ball once more, you know?
• 6:18
  Tad Eggleston: See, this is supposed to be your escape from society film.
• 6:22
  Phil: I know, but… and yet… and here's… here's what happened, is that my day job, completely broke me, in terms of… of just… just burnout, you know? I realized in taking the past two weeks off that…
• 6:38
  Phil: Oh, man, it's been miraculous just being able to function and not have to worry about, you know. So I'm not looking forward to tomorrow, that's for sure. I go back to work for the first time in two weeks.
• 6:51
  Tad Eggleston: But you also want to be done in an hour. So, dude.
• 6:54
  Phil: Yeah.
• 6:54
  Tad Eggleston: Tell me what the fuck is going on in Silver Sprocket, because I only looked a.
• 6:58
  Phil: Yeah, so I did. I read the announcement. So basically, here's the thing. Last year, eagle-eared listeners will remember that Silver Sprocket was called out by a bunch of the artists who work there for, hey, you're late on royalty payments. You're not paying us for our book, for our books. There's some weird accounting going on here where, you know, basically.
• 7:17
  Phil: People were, were never earning, you know, they were, they were constantly, you know.
• 7:22
  Phil: being withheld. There was a shady dealing where
• 7:25
  Phil: Because Silver Sprocket had a storefront, they were taking half for the store and then half for the publisher. So it really ended up instead of being a 50-50 split, more of a 75-25 split with only 25 going to the artists. And unfortunately, in that year plus time since we last heard about this.
• 7:45
  Phil: Sprocket has not been very communicative. It sounds like they've mostly tried to
• 7:51
  Phil: you know, duck responsibility, and have kind of placated and tried to issue an apology that the artists were not satisfied with. Tried to say, oh, well, you know, we'll work with you to try to figure out how to resolve this. And the artists have responded with.
• 8:07
  Phil: this is the basic function of a publisher, why aren't you doing this already? So it's… it's a contin… it's an ongoing saga. Right now, the… the important thing is they're working with the Cartoonist Co-op, just to try to get the word out there, increase knowledge about…
• 8:23
  Phil: the business dealings, and I think just in general, kind of, you know.
• 8:28
  Phil: Help people know what's going on, and they admit to themselves that, hey, you know.
• 8:32
  Phil: Their careers had all been helped by these opportunities, but it still sucks expecting to get paid at least something for it and not getting paid at all.
• 8:43
  Tad Eggleston: Alrighty.
• 8:45
  Tad Eggleston: in… In other recent news, Marvel has left New York.
• 8:54
  Tad Eggleston: Ending the long, long history of
• 8:58
  Tad Eggleston: Of New York is the epicenter of, of comics. They followed, DC out to Burbank. In doing so, they have also,
• 9:12
  Tad Eggleston: Demoted.
• 9:15
  Phil: It seems like.
• 9:16
  Tad Eggleston: shifted, whatever…
• 9:17
  Phil: Questionable lateral move.
• 9:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 9:21
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it is kind of weird to have him in charge of the… Manga wing.
• 9:28
  Phil: It, yeah, manga or or Asia talent relations, something like that.
• 9:33
  Tad Eggleston: I wonder a little bit how that plays with the people that he's got to now work with.
• 9:39
  Phil: Yen.
• 9:40
  Tad Eggleston: But, anyway…
• 9:44
  Phil: Steven Wacker.
• 9:45
  Tad Eggleston: Steven Wacker…
• 9:46
  Phil: It's back at Marvel.
• 9:48
  Tad Eggleston: has…
• 9:48
  Phil: Or at least back it is.
• 9:50
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, well, no, he's back at Marvel, not completely back in comics, because he'd been doing,
• 9:57
  Tad Eggleston: He was the editor of the… Three Worlds, Three Wounds.
• 10:02
  Phil: Oh, that's right, that'.
• 10:03
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 10:04
  Phil: I thought he was still doing animated stuff for Marvel.
• 10:08
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, since 2022, he's been doing…
• 10:12
  Tad Eggleston: Through World's Three Moons. Okay.
• 10:16
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I guess…
• 10:18
  Tad Eggleston: In 2022, he was the editor-in-chief and then left the following year to co-found the entertainment studio Stone Kite.
• 10:25
  Phil: Mmm.
• 10:26
  Tad Eggleston: So, so I guess maybe he was…
• 10:29
  Tad Eggleston: Doing some… some of his own.
• 10:32
  Tad Eggleston: Umm.
• 10:34
  Tad Eggleston: animation.
• 10:36
  Tad Eggleston: But now it's back at,
• 10:40
  Tad Eggleston: Back at Marvel as the editor-in-chief.
• 10:43
  Tad Eggleston: The 15th Editor-in-Chief
• 10:46
  Tad Eggleston: I feel like 5 of them came, came in like the 2 years after Stan left.
• 10:51
  Phil: Yeah, probably.
• 10:52
  Tad Eggleston: When it felt like a round table of…
• 10:54
  Tad Eggleston: Who… who can we… who can we convince to be the editor next?
• 10:59
  Phil: Right. Yeah. One of those. Who wants to take the complaints?
• 11:03
  Tad Eggleston: It kind of flew through a lot of people.
• 11:07
  Tad Eggleston: Until… Until, I feel… I feel like it was… Probably…
• 11:19
  Tad Eggleston: I'm just looking at the list here. Maybe Tom DeFalco? Or no, Jim Shooter was probably the next one that actually was willing to take the job for, like, multiple years.
• 11:30
  Tad Eggleston: is he became… The the.
• 11:40
  Tad Eggleston: the EIC in, I wanna say… Ba ba ba.
• 11:49
  Phil: 70 something?
• 11:51
  Tad Eggleston: Looks like… yeah.
• 11:53
  Tad Eggleston: 19, yeah.
• 11:55
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, here here we go.
• 11:57
  Tad Eggleston: Cebulski's the 15th, right?
• 12:00
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 12:02
  Tad Eggleston: Shooter… shooter… took over as… succeeded Archie Goodwin to become Marvel's 9th Editor-in-Chief in January of 78.
• 12:13
  Phil: Oh, okay.
• 12:14
  Tad Eggleston: 9th editor-in-chief in January of 78.
• 12:19
  Phil: When did Stan leave?
• 12:21
  Tad Eggleston: Stan Lee was the the editor in chief of Marvel.
• 12:27
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see…
• 12:41
  Tad Eggleston: I think, actually, into the 70s.
• 12:45
  Phil: Oh yeah, wow. Okay, yeah.
• 12:47
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see…
• 12:52
  Phil: To to keep it relevant. They they had a more turn turnover in the bullpen than
• 12:57
  Phil: You know, prime ministers in the UK the past 5 years.
• 13:01
  Tad Eggleston: Right, right,
• 13:08
  Tad Eggleston: Final issue… well… He stopped writing monthly comics to assume his full-time role of publisher in 72.
• 13:18
  Phil: -H.
• 13:19
  Tad Eggleston: But that's publisher, not editor in chief.
• 13:22
  Phil: Mmh.
• 13:23
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 13:35
  Tad Eggleston: Trying to remember who took over first. Was it Jerry Conway?
• 13:40
  Tad Eggleston: I was hoping to just get a list of editors-in-chief in order, but I haven't found that quickly enough.
• 13:47
  Phil: Oh, are they just it's alphabetical or something.
• 13:49
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 13:50
  Phil: Oh, that's obnoxious.
• 13:57
  Tad Eggleston: And.
• 14:04
  Phil: You know, this is… this is,
• 14:06
  Tad Eggleston: This is fascinating audio, I'm certain.
• 14:08
  Phil: stammering, stammering at…
• 14:13
  Tad Eggleston: Jerry Conway was the editor in chief in 76, Len Wein 74 and 75.
• 14:19
  Phil: Mmh.
• 14:20
  Tad Eggleston: Marv Wolfman, 75 and 76. Roy Thomas, 72 to 74. Okay. Bob Harris. Bob Harris had 94 to 2000.
• 14:30
  Phil: And…
• 14:30
  Tad Eggleston: C.B. Cebulsk 2017 to present, so, like, he had…
• 14:37
  Phil: It's still a.
• 14:38
  Tad Eggleston: 9 years, that might make him the second longest…
• 14:43
  Phil: Wow. Well.
• 14:46
  Phil: I mean…
• 14:47
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I haven't gotten through the list yet. Archie Goodwin, 76-78. Axel Alonzo, 11-17, so that was only 6 years.
• 14:58
  Tad Eggleston: Tom DeFalco, 87 to 94, only 7 years. Shooter, 78 to 87, so he also had 9 years.
• 15:08
  Tad Eggleston: Joe Quesada, 2000 to 2011.
• 15:12
  Phil: There we go.
• 15:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. And Stan Lee, 1945 to 1972.
• 15:17
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 15:18
  Phil: Wow.
• 15:20
  Phil: It's a heck of a.
• 15:22
  Tad Eggleston: And it…
• 15:23
  Phil: Christine.
• 15:23
  Tad Eggleston: Most of it lasting…
• 15:25
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Less than two years. Yeah. I mean, like I said, like between between Lee and and.
• 15:34
  Tad Eggleston: Cause none of the guys, like in general, they didn't leave Marvel when they were done. I mean, sometimes they go right at DC for a while, but like, but it's not like they, they left to never do like, it was like, can I stop editing now? I.
• 15:50
  Phil: Right.
• 15:50
  Tad Eggleston: writing.
• 15:51
  Phil: Yeah, the responsibility, something like that. I'm thinking, how crazy must it be to be able to count, alright, these are the people who have had your job.
• 15:59
  Phil: you know.
• 16:01
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 16:01
  Phil: As that is something I've I've definitely never been in a.
• 16:05
  Phil: that position for.
• 16:07
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 16:08
  Tad Eggleston: Good luck to Stephen Wacker, good luck to the next era of Marvel, hopefully. I know that they're trying to tie it in more with the movie TCV side, hopefully they're doing that in a…
• 16:23
  Tad Eggleston: A wise way and it's more just like trying to have the
• 16:28
  Tad Eggleston: the right comics available, particularly in graphic novel form, that sort of thing, rather than, like, anything dumb. And I just realized that my baseball even has band-aid dots.
• 16:41
  Phil: Oh, nice!
• 16:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, so interesting.
• 16:44
  Phil: I do see.
• 16:44
  Tad Eggleston: Bandaidots. That's like, I.
• 16:47
  Phil: I do have a friend that I follow online who is worried that, you know, a worst case scenario of comics relating to movies, you know, like, if it's a shared continuity between the two of them.
• 17:02
  Phil: And that's that'd be the fastest way to get me to never worry about a mobile economic again.
• 17:08
  Tad Eggleston: You know, like,
• 17:12
  Tad Eggleston: I'm fascinated when continuities get shared across mediums, so I don't want to say that I'd hate that.
• 17:20
  Phil: Okay.
• 17:21
  Tad Eggleston: I think it would depend on how it was done.
• 17:25
  Phil: Yeah, I just, I'm worried.
• 17:28
  Phil: I'm worried that if it was done, it would be done with, like, actors' likenesses being drawn, and that's.
• 17:33
  Tad Eggleston: Again, again, I'm not.
• 17:37
  Tad Eggleston: I can think of a million things that I may or may not like about it. Right.
• 17:43
  Tad Eggleston: But as a storyteller.
• 17:45
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 17:46
  Tad Eggleston: I'm fascinated by mixing mediums.
• 17:49
  Phil: Yeah, I, I guess, I guess what I worry about is.
• 17:54
  Phil: you know, I already struggle to, if you want to follow this series, read these other series, see what's going on.
• 17:59
  Tad Eggleston: I get it.
• 18:00
  Phil: They're gonna be like, go.
• 18:01
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but.
• 18:02
  Phil: But that…
• 18:03
  Tad Eggleston: That's part of doing it right.
• 18:05
  Phil: Yes.
• 18:06
  Tad Eggleston: Is not forcing like allowing you to be part of it on whatever level you want to be a part of it.
• 18:12
  Phil: Yes.
• 18:13
  Tad Eggleston: Rather than making you…
• 18:15
  Phil: But that's, that's the thing is from, from being in and around superheroes.
• 18:20
  Phil: For as long as I have.
• 18:22
  Phil: They're always pushing to get people to read as much of the line as possible.
• 18:27
  Phil: like…
• 18:28
  Tad Eggleston: Well, certainly in our lifetimes, yeah.
• 18:31
  Phil: Yeah.
• 18:31
  Tad Eggleston: But but again, like, anytime you have a major changeover, like, I think the the.
• 18:41
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, like… No, that's not entirely true. A lot of Joe Quesada's era wasn't true.
• 18:49
  Phil: Okay, okay, I could see that.
• 18:53
  Phil: I could see that.
• 18:54
  Phil: Admittedly, yeah. I mean…
• 18:57
  Tad Eggleston: It was one of the ways that he was different.
• 18:59
  Phil: Yeah, where there were books that were allowed to kind of exist.
• 19:03
  Tad Eggleston: And then. And then Axel was. I think it was Axel that brought in, like, Civil War. Like, I don't know.
• 19:10
  Phil: Oh!
• 19:11
  Tad Eggleston: I think so.
• 19:11
  Phil: Sigma 4 was definitely still Quesada.
• 19:13
  Tad Eggleston: Was it?
• 19:14
  Phil: Yeah, because I was 06.
• 19:17
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but but but what I mean is, I think.
• 19:21
  Tad Eggleston: I want to say that the the group editor on on Civil War.
• 19:29
  Phil: It could have been Alonzo. That's entirely possible.
• 19:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, 2006-7…
• 19:49
  Tad Eggleston: I know Millar and Bendis were.
• 19:54
  Tad Eggleston: Kind of central in terms of the writing side.
• 19:59
  Phil: 'Cause…
• 19:59
  Tad Eggleston: At least.
• 20:00
  Phil: And Millar was doing the series.
• 20:03
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 20:06
  Tad Eggleston: At least on… I hate it that the stuff that, like, I care about for… for…
• 20:14
  Tad Eggleston: This sort of thing is almost never in the week. Oh, no, there we go. Oh, Aubrey Sitterson.
• 20:21
  Tad Eggleston: Was one of the editors.
• 20:23
  Phil: What!
• 20:25
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Phil: That's… was he an assistant?
• 20:27
  Tad Eggleston: Vort, probably.
• 20:29
  Phil: Okay, wow. Didn't realize. Did not realize.
• 20:35
  Phil: Holy cow.
• 20:37
  Tad Eggleston: And Tom Brevoort, who I think has, like, never wanted to be EIC.
• 20:41
  Phil: Yeah, I'm honestly a little surprised he hasn't been. Like, I kind of assumed he was at one point, but.
• 20:47
  Tad Eggleston: I don't think he.
• 20:48
  Phil: Yeah, just a group editor. Interesting. Okay.
• 20:50
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 20:50
  Phil: Yeah, okay.
• 20:53
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, I mean, again, like, particularly when you're seeing.
• 20:57
  Tad Eggleston: Were you seeing the possibility for big change, and, like, when, yes, it's always been like this, but yes, people… but people always complain about it, too.
• 21:06
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 21:07
  Tad Eggleston: Like, we know that in comics, like, anytime you change things, people will complain about it. Yeah. But at the same time.
• 21:16
  Tad Eggleston: Anything that people complain about is generally often bringing in new people, and half the people complaining don't stop buying.
• 21:24
  Phil: Yeah, that's for sure.
• 21:26
  Phil: That, that was…
• 21:27
  Tad Eggleston: You know what I mean?
• 21:29
  Phil: hard lesson learned. I forget… I forget what book would be the example for that, but, like.
• 21:35
  Phil: I think… I think it was Geoff Johns's run of Justice League in the New 52, where I said to someone at a convention, like, I don't even know why I'm getting this, and he was like, then just drop it! And I was like, holy shit, you can do that? And then I did.
• 21:49
  Phil: It was one of those sorts of things, where I was like, I'm not enjoying this.
• 21:53
  Phil: I don't know… yeah.
• 21:55
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, it's not easy to do. I get it.
• 21:59
  Phil: No.
• 22:00
  Tad Eggleston: What kind of week has it been?
• 22:03
  Phil: -Oh.
• 22:04
  Tad Eggleston: Did you, did you follow any of Trump's prime time speech?
• 22:07
  Phil: I try not to listen to anything he says because, you know, It's that disturbing.
• 22:13
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't. I mean, it was. It was. It was not on many channels because. Right, right.
• 22:20
  Phil: I did see that Fox News put out a disclaimer that the president.
• 22:24
  Tad Eggleston: Fair.
• 22:24
  Phil: or may not, like, or that they.
• 22:25
  Tad Eggleston: put out lots of disclaimer right like like
• 22:31
  Tad Eggleston: somebody should make the graphic of, like, CBS and Fox News with the disclaimer chiro on, and just the, which of these networks paid a…
• 22:42
  Tad Eggleston: 900 plus million dollars!
• 22:47
  Phil: I don't even.
• 22:48
  Tad Eggleston: It's batshit. To whichever voting company.
• 22:55
  Phil: Hey!
• 22:55
  Tad Eggleston: The sheep cut.
• 22:56
  Phil: Holy shit, right? Yeah.
• 22:58
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you could tell it's like, we can't not run Trump, but but please don't sue us again.
• 23:04
  Phil: Yeah, right? Holy.
• 23:05
  Tad Eggleston: You're not saying that he's telling the truth.
• 23:08
  Phil: Jeez.
• 23:08
  Tad Eggleston: Fox News cannot confirm.
• 23:11
  Phil: Right. We're just, we're just putting the president on TV and seeing what happens. We are not accepting responsibility for this. Yeah.
• 23:18
  Tad Eggleston: But here's the thing.
• 23:21
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, 1st of all, like when people started like, go to whitehouse.gov, and I put up all the papers. You'll see that everything that I'm saying is true.
• 23:33
  Tad Eggleston: People did go to whitehouse.gov to, to look at the papers and, like, I don't know who released them or how they vetted what, what was put up, but,
• 23:47
  Tad Eggleston: Really didn't confirm any Chinese election meddling. It did have things that confirmed.
• 23:57
  Tad Eggleston: Russian!
• 23:59
  Tad Eggleston: election meddling.
• 24:01
  Tad Eggleston: It was confirmed?
• 24:03
  Phil: I mean, I know, it had been mentally confirmed for me, and I'd.
• 24:07
  Tad Eggleston: No, I mean, documents released at whitehouse.gov in support of this speech.
• 24:13
  Phil: Self-incriminating? Holy shit. This is, this is wild. He's self-incrimin.
• 24:18
  Tad Eggleston: He didn't he didn't say it.
• 24:20
  Phil: Sure.
• 24:21
  Tad Eggleston: But it… It did.
• 24:23
  Phil: Whitehouse. Whitehouse.gov is rele Russian election tampering evidence, claiming it's actually Chinese election…
• 24:30
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, no, no, no, there's like, there's like a breakdown of, there's like a page, a page from one of the reports has like, you know, like when you're comparing computer softwares and it's like, this one does this, this and this, and this one does this, this and this.
• 24:46
  Phil: Yep.
• 24:46
  Tad Eggleston: It's like…
• 24:47
  Tad Eggleston: it was, like, Russia, Iran, China, you know, which ones have our voter rolls, which, by the way, are public, so, like, doesn't require hacking to get the…
• 24:59
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 25:00
  Tad Eggleston: That was one of the big things he was trying to has our voter rolls and it's like, dude.
• 25:05
  Tad Eggleston: They're public.
• 25:09
  Tad Eggleston: They also…
• 25:09
  Phil: breathe air over there. Big surprise. Big surprise. All right.
• 25:12
  Tad Eggleston: But it's like, who has the voter rolls? Russia, Czech.
• 25:19
  Tad Eggleston: China check, Iran check, like, who, who put out fake stories to try to influence, you know, check, check, check, who attempted to.
• 25:32
  Tad Eggleston: Infiltrate voting machines. Russia check. No checks next to Iran or China.
• 25:38
  Phil: wow okay okay so just an infographic calmly confirming what we've all more or less known if we've been paying attention to reading news and following stories.
• 25:49
  Tad Eggleston: And it was actually on the bulwark where Tim Miller and Nicole Wallace were talking that I think the best thing was pointed out.
• 25:58
  Tad Eggleston: So… According to Trump.
• 26:01
  Tad Eggleston: Let me just ask you a series of questions, and I want you to answer them according to Trump.
• 26:07
  Phil: Oh.
• 26:08
  Tad Eggleston: Were the 2016 elections free and fair.
• 26:15
  Phil: I assume he would say yes.
• 26:17
  Tad Eggleston: The 2020 elections, free and fair.
• 26:20
  Phil: I assume he would say no.
• 26:22
  Tad Eggleston: Were the 2024 elections free and fair?
• 26:25
  Phil: I assumed he would say yes.
• 26:27
  Tad Eggleston: Who oversaw the 2016 elections?
• 26:31
  Phil: I assume Obama's presidency.
• 26:35
  Tad Eggleston: Who oversaw the 2020 elections?
• 26:37
  Phil: I assume his presidents.
• 26:39
  Tad Eggleston: Who oversaw the 2024 elections?
• 26:42
  Phil: I, I assume about, or Biden's.
• 26:44
  Tad Eggleston: So, what he is saying…
• 26:47
  Phil: Is that his own election was…
• 26:48
  Tad Eggleston: The only person who can't run free and fair elections is him.
• 26:53
  Phil: Well, and can't even win the non-free and fair elections that he ran.
• 26:59
  Phil: So this bodes well for 2028. Hopefully he will once again tamper and fail. That's all we can hope for at this point.
• 27:07
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, yes, but also, like…
• 27:10
  Phil: You just gave me hope, Tad!
• 27:12
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it gives me some hope, too, but also, like… like…
• 27:17
  Tad Eggleston: How does he not see that?
• 27:20
  Phil: I, I, I, I see.
• 27:22
  Tad Eggleston: Saying you need to give me more control over elections because I suck at it. Yep. The Democrats, they're good at it. Here's I suck at it.
• 27:31
  Phil: Here's the problem, Chad, is trying to make sense of what this man says and does in the first place. It's not there. It's just not there.
• 27:40
  Tad Eggleston: I know.
• 27:41
  Phil: Yeah.
• 27:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 27:43
  Phil: It's hard, it's hard to come. He's like the Dr. Hurt of sense. He is, he is the hole in things of sense, you know, like you just gotta live with it.
• 27:52
  Phil: For fans out there, that's a Batman reference. That's a great Morrison Batman reference to bo
• 27:58
  Phil: You know, but yeah.
• 28:00
  Tad Eggleston: Alright.
• 28:02
  Phil: We should talk some comics.
• 28:04
  Tad Eggleston: Due to order this month, initial orders are due by the end of the week, July 23rd,
• 28:11
  Tad Eggleston: We're not going through the whole list. Tyler highlighted some before he realized he wasn't going to be here.
• 28:18
  Phil: He even put text there, but I took it out.
• 28:20
  Tad Eggleston: Let's take that out. Would it trip me up even more though since since I will bring up the arrivals number one Nick Spencer might call this a dark horse because it's actually should be Nick Spencer.
• 28:36
  Tad Eggleston: Jonathan Hickston.
• 28:37
  Phil: Oh, is that a, a Three Worlds, Three Worlds.
• 28:40
  Tad Eggleston: That, right, Dark Horse is starting to, to print.
• 28:45
  Phil: You want to know? It's funny, I never, I never paid for that substack. Well.
• 28:49
  Tad Eggleston: I never do.
• 28:50
  Phil: I think I did for a little while, but I never followed it regularly because it was one of those, I'd be more interested in this if I could buy it from a comic store and read it physically. Now that I can.
• 29:00
  Phil: I've moved on with my life completely.
• 29:03
  Tad Eggleston: I, like, I will probably buy collections at some point.
• 29:07
  Phil: Yeah, I will recollect.
• 29:08
  Tad Eggleston: And or I'll love it if it pops up on Hoopla or something like that. I can see it being something that I want to do a deep dive on, but I think I'll want to do it together rather than in…
• 29:18
  Phil: Yeah, and that… that was useful.
• 29:20
  Tad Eggleston: Hickman… Hickman, for me, generally works better when I read them in bulk than when I'm reading.
• 29:26
  Phil: Yeah, my…
• 29:27
  Tad Eggleston: That'.
• 29:27
  Phil: The, the dribble, the dribble can be tough. It, it's, it's, yeah.
• 29:32
  Phil: I'm still waiting on more Black Monday murders.
• 29:35
  Tad Eggleston: But here, here, here's another, another example of,
• 29:40
  Tad Eggleston: things that people thought didn't work anymore coming back and working, DC's Cloth the Raven.
• 29:48
  Tad Eggleston: Whatever, from various art artists, you know, we're.
• 29:53
  Tad Eggleston: We're in a second golden era of anthology comics.
• 29:58
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 29:59
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 30:01
  Tad Eggleston: And and here's another one. You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight. What about with the daughter of darkness written by Teenie Howard, Patrick R. Young, Domo Stanton, Nina Vakuva, Rebecca Mock, and others with art from Isaac Goodheart, Domo Stanton, Nina Vakuva.
• 30:20
  Tad Eggleston: Rebecca Mock, Francesco Tomaselli, and others. Welcome, foolish immortals, not far from the shores of Gotham City. When the nights grow long, the leaves turn red, and a certain crisp comes into the air on a twilight.
• 30:35
  Tad Eggleston: Lit by the full moon, the lives of heroes and anti-heroes from
• 30:40
  Tad Eggleston: Raven to Swamp Thing, Constantine, Zatanna, Dead Man and More turn toward the strange and unusual, the occult and delightful, the odd and the audacious. This is a final order cutoff of August 31st and in stores on September 30th.
• 30:59
  Phil: Next up, there's Drumsticks of Doom Band on the Silver Mountain from John Westhoff, Dan Doherty, and Ryan Vella over at Massive Comics. When Black Sabbath, not the Beatles, became the world's most famous band, the universe was changed, musically and otherwise. Lost arts like alchemy were made common. Schools taught about transfiguration and alternate science. Demons were summoned and some stuck around.
• 31:24
  Phil: The new three-issue miniseries has Lana and the crew taking the next step in their musical journey as they head to the Silver Mountain to record their first album. Their private recording session isn't so private when characters new and old start trying to get in on the tracks. It's going to have a final order cutoff of August 17 in stores September 30.
• 31:43
  Tad Eggleston: All right, returning.
• 31:46
  Tad Eggleston: Here's for you, Johnny. Legion of Superheroes number one from Joshua Williamson and Hayden Sher
• 31:52
  Tad Eggleston: At DC Comics, 1,000 years after the last son of Krypton's rocket crashed on the Kent farm comes a new future inspired by the Man of Steel. But this new future is in danger. Superheroes are outlawed. Deadly enforcers known as the Persuaders keep the populace of the United Planets in check. Worlds are at war and this dark tomorrow's last glimmer of hope.
• 32:13
  Tad Eggleston: RJ Brand has been brutally murdered.
• 32:17
  Tad Eggleston: Can the mysterious… mysterious Brainiac 1 of 5 solve Brand's murder? To restore hope to the universe, he must assemble a legion of gifted young rebels from across the cosmos, but they are scattered across the universe.
• 32:32
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cut off of August 10th in stores on September second.
• 32:39
  Phil: Next up, there's Palestine Facsimile Edition No. 1 from Joe Sacco over at Fantagraphics, where it all began. We are proud to present this Facsimile Edition of Palestine No. 1.
• 32:50
  Phil: Originally published in early 1993, the first appearance of Sacco's timeless, award-winning work of comics journalism, based on his own travels in the Middle East.
• 33:00
  Phil: In this first chapter of one of the best-selling and most important graphic novels of all time, Saco travels to Egypt and Jerusalem, hearing very different opinions of Palestine and Israel from the locals. It's gonna have a final cutoff of August 3rd, in stores September 9th.
• 33:16
  Tad Eggleston: Star Trek Halloween 2. Number one from Alex Segura and Bailey Rosenland at IDAW. On the eve of a high stakes diplomatic summit, Deep Space Nine is thrown into chaos by a sudden communications blackout and a string of deeply unsettling incidents.
• 33:33
  Tad Eggleston: With senior leadership call away, Wharf, Dax, Odo, and Bashir must hold their station together as tensions rise among visiting dignitaries. Then a distressed starship
• 33:45
  Tad Eggleston: arrives with explosive claims, and one member of the DS9 crew stands accused of murder. A suspicion spreads, and paranoia takes hold.
• 33:54
  Tad Eggleston: A creeping sense of dread settles over the promenade, and somewhere inside the station's hollow suites, something has gone terrifyingly wrong.
• 34:06
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff of August 31st in stores, October 7th.
• 34:11
  Phil: Sunder #1 from Pierre-Alexandre Camtois at Mad Cave. This is the story of Zeke, a goat-looking orphan living in a monastery within the far reaches of the galaxy. For reasons he was never told, he is restricted from ever going outside the perimeters of the monastery.
• 34:28
  Phil: Taking care of the library, he reads and transcribes books filled with heroes and adventures, yet never gets to have any of his own. That is, until one day, when a magical book appears in the library and attaches itself to him.
• 34:40
  Phil: Magic. Sci-fi. Adventure. Monsters. Welcome to the World of Sunder. Gonna have a final order cutoff of September 7th in stores September 30th.
• 34:51
  Tad Eggleston: All right, how about some graphic novels, Phil.
• 34:53
  Phil: Graphic novels. This first one, Bad Ducks Volume 1 from Toruman Takeda at IDW, IDW Alien, doing some manga. I believe this is getting translated.
• 35:07
  Phil: Two outlaws and a baby search for freedom in this road trip epic that combines sci-fi thrills with endearing family comedy. The two protagonists have neither combat experience nor resources, but their thirst for freedom is unparalleled. An exciting and wholesome story of an unlikely found family. And I do got to say, the art looks absolutely incredible from the first couple of covers listed there. That's going to have a final order cut off of August 17th.
• 35:32
  Phil: in-store September 22nd.
• 35:35
  Tad Eggleston: Beginner's Guide to Leveling Up from Elizabeth Aguyamang.
• 35:40
  Tad Eggleston: At Penguin, 6th grade, the game just got real. For Lexi, this year was supposed to be all about joining clubs, claiming the perfect lunch spot, and gaming after school with her best friends. But shifting friendships and the grief of losing her beloved grandfather make middle school
• 35:56
  Tad Eggleston: Feel more like someone switched her life to hard mode. When Lexi discovers a mysterious journal tucked inside her grandfather's things, it's filled with cryptic notes and cheat codes from an unfinished video game he was creating, Warrior's Quest. When Lexi and her older sister Eunice are suddenly transported into the game's pixelated world, the line between reality and fantasy starts to blur.
• 36:20
  Tad Eggleston: Can Lexi and her sisters level up and face the monsters in the game and in real life? Or is it game over for good? Final order cut off of August 10th in stores on September 8th.
• 36:33
  Phil: Hassan by Mario B. Long and Kusanagi from Mad Cave Nakayama.
• 36:39
  Phil: He was forgotten for 50 years. Now he's the only one who can save them. When two girls vanish into a deadly mine run by rogue machines, a dying old man awakens Kassan, a lost cybernetic hero with no memory and a human heart buried inside metal. But underground lies more than hostages, a hidden robot refuge, a radical new species, and the truth about Kassan's own creation.
• 37:01
  Phil: Caught between humans, robots, and a new species called Neo-Reuters, Kassan must confront the past he's forgotten before the world destroys itself again.
• 37:09
  Phil: With a final order cutoff of August 24th in store September 16th.
• 37:17
  Tad Eggleston: The flood that did come by Patrick Ray at Avery Hill. In the year 2036, the whole Kingsby County has been flooded after several weeks of torrential rain.
• 37:27
  Tad Eggleston: Only a few villages have escaped the flood. One of these is the village of Pennyworth, where Tom and Jenny live. When the inhabitants of nearby Brook Falls arrive and attempt to lay claim to Pennyworth.
• 37:41
  Tad Eggleston: Struggle ensues that places the residents of each village against each other in a battle of wills that threatens to change all their lives forever. Can Tom, Jenny, and their friends persuade the new arrivals that a conflict can be avoided before all is swept away by the flood that did come?
• 38:00
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff of August 3rd in stores on September 2nd.
• 38:06
  Phil: The Hard Switch by Owen Pomerry and Avery Hill.
• 38:11
  Phil: Ada, Haika, and Malik are on a mission. One last mission before everything everywhere shuts down. They're raiding old, abandoned spaceships and wrecks for the sometimes expensive parts, and they're
• 38:23
  Phil: And they just… and they make just enough money to get by. But living their nomadic, exploring life isn't sustainable when they can't afford fuel anymore. The time is coming when the mineral that makes interstellar systems
• 38:37
  Phil: system jumps possible runs out. When it does, the scattered inhabitants of the vast galaxy will be stuck where they are. Everything will be different. Unless the Discovery and the latest Wreck Ada, Haika, and Malik are scavenging can unlock a whole new kind of interstellar transit. It's going to have a final order cutoff of August 3rd, in store September 2nd.
• 39:00
  Tad Eggleston: Sliced by Rafael Scavone and Guillermo Grandizoli from a blaze, powered by passion for the craft and familial obligation, respectively. Silvio Zampini and Pietro Pozzutti are two pieziolas. Piazziolas.
• 39:19
  Tad Eggleston: who've shared an animosity since childhood, fueled by the long ago desolation of their family's friendship. They both have their struggles, however, and these are only magnified when a new pizza joint opens right across the street, glitzy, high tech, and backed by some serious cash. Forced to work together to oust this new competitor, they'll uncover both the underbelly of the corporation in question and the truth of their own
• 39:44
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see.
• 39:45
  Tad Eggleston: Final alert cutoff of July 27th in stores on a September 2nd.
• 39:53
  Phil: Alright, next up…
• 39:54
  Phil: Excellent.
• 39:55
  Tad Eggleston: Yes, yeah.
• 39:56
  Phil: "The Curse of Shirley Johnson" from Daniel Henriques and Jonathan Glapien and Fico Placencia at Image.
• 40:07
  Phil: Shirley Johnson was seven years old when she was brutally murdered by the infamous serial killer Billy Kincaid in Spawn #5, setting off a chain of events no one could have foreseen. Spawn got his revenge, but Shirley was left behind. Now she's back, reborn in hell. Shirley has spent decades trapped, reliving her own death, transformed by suffering she's never deserved, and marked by power that once belonged to Spawn.
• 40:31
  Phil: Shirley is thrown into a brutal journey through hell's deepest territories, where she meets the stranger, a man out of time who is haunted by his own loss, bound together by several more… by…
• 40:42
  Phil: survival more than trust. They are hunted by forces from both heaven and hell, searching for a way out that may not exist. Final order cutoff of August 17th, in stores September 23rd.
• 40:56
  Tad Eggleston: Is Ted okay? From Dave Chisholm at Mad Cave.
• 41:00
  Tad Eggleston: This is a story about Ted and Sarah. Ted, isolated and paranoid, works for a mega corporation owned by the world's only trillionaire. He suffers from night terrors, obsessively draws the same mysterious figures again and again, all while listening to one track of music on repeat.
• 41:18
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, and the only person he ever talks to is a stray cat.
• 41:22
  Tad Eggleston: His humanity is hanging by a thread. Sarah is a new arrival to the city, fighting her own demons, and her job is to remotely spy on Ted to ensure he doesn't hurt anyone.
• 41:33
  Tad Eggleston: Or himself. When Ted's mental state begins to crack, Sarah compassionately intervenes to help and things go catastrophically wrong.
• 41:43
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cut off of September 7th in stores on September 30th.
• 41:49
  Phil: All right, Red Roots from Lorenzo De Felici at Image Comics. Red Roots will grab you by the ankles and drag you down, down below, to some obscure and unexpected places. You'll be following a professional killer and a teacher trying to shed some light on a mystery, while getting more and more lost in it with every step.
• 42:08
  Phil: It's gonna have a file order cutoff of August 24th in store, September 30th.
• 42:14
  Tad Eggleston: Uncanny Valley, the complete collection. From Tony Fleeks and Dave Wachter at Boom, his mother's mysterious past isn't the only thing that sets him apart from other 12-year-olds. He has unexplainable, campy powers that more often than not land him in trouble.
• 42:29
  Tad Eggleston: But the most outlandish and astonishing is yet to come as a dark presence pursues Oliver from the most whimsical recesses of the unknown and the strange and mysterious past of his family will be more than he ever could have imagined. Final order cut off of August 10 in stores on November 10.
• 42:49
  Tad Eggleston: Speaking of final order cutoffs, final order cutoffs for Monday, July 27th.
• 42:57
  Tad Eggleston: Angel number one, from Kelly Thompson, is you a lot?
• 43:00
  Tad Eggleston: or Julia Giacomino at Dynamite.
• 43:04
  Tad Eggleston: out August 19th. Archie No. 1 from Ben H. Winters and Fabio Moon at ONI, out on September 2nd. Buffy the Vampire Slayer No. 1 from Kelly Thompson and Stephen Byrne at Dynamite, out Aug
• 43:16
  Tad Eggleston: Bug Wars, The Coming of the War Doom, number one from Jason Aaron and Mahmoud Azrar, Matthew Wilson at Image.
• 43:25
  Tad Eggleston: Out August 19th, Earth to Chris Cleavy from Christophe Bogarch, and Hannah Krieger at
• 43:33
  Tad Eggleston: Harper Collins out on August 26th. Instant Noodles and Beyond from Robin Ha, Harper Collins out on August 26th. The Last Driver, number one from Sean Murphy, Simon Goff at Image Comics out on August 19th. No Gods, No Masters, number one from Julio Anta and Jacoby Salcedo.
• 43:53
  Tad Eggleston: at BOOM!
• 43:55
  Tad Eggleston: Out on September 2nd, the perfectly monstrous life
• 43:59
  Tad Eggleston: of Adam Frankenstein, from Tate Bromble and Sue Lee at Dark Horse, out September 2nd. Prima Operata from Olivia Dufault and Rebecca Isaacs at Ignition, that's number 1.
• 44:13
  Tad Eggleston: out on September 2nd, and Warbird No. 1 from Derek Kolstad, Robert Venditti, and Alex Meliev from Bad Idea, out July 22nd.
• 44:25
  Tad Eggleston: Phil, you wanna tell us about some crowdfund.
• 44:27
  Phil: Yeah, I'll definitely be getting that Primavera out of that one. Looks awesome. Crowdfunding, we've got Liberty, the arms smugglers who helped win the revolution from Jordan Mechner and Etienne Leroux and Loic.
• 44:40
  Phil: Chevalier at Neurobellum Productions Magnetic Press on Kickstarter through July 22nd. So if you're listening to this by Wednesday, go ahead and back that. Subculture on In Crowds and Outliers by comics finest writers, artists, and record thieves edited by Shelley Bond on Kickstarter through July 23rd.
• 45:00
  Phil: Ghost Brawler #1 from the team behind Image Series 2, John Lehman and Rob Guillory on Kickstarter through July 23rd. The Monuments Vol. 2: Let His Death Be a Warning from Oliver Mertz on Kickstarter through July 29th. I Just Came From Hell, the sequel to Who Killed Sarah Shaw from Frankie White and Adam Markowitz on Kickstarter through August 3rd.
• 45:23
  Phil: Outlaws Apprentice Broken Blade from Chris Schweizer on Kickstarter through July 30th. Sink Your Teeth In #2 from Zoe Tunnell, Laura Knight, JP Jordan, Jordy Troutman, and Michelle Abinator on Kickstarter through August 6th. And then the Tezuka God of Manga documentary from Jason Cohn on Kickstarter launching sometime soon.
• 45:45
  Phil: Joining that launching soon is, upcoming The Death of Comics Bookcase, Reign of the Comics Bookcases, new comics anthology from Zach Quaintance, gonna be launching on Kickstarter pretty soon.
• 45:57
  Phil: Tad, what's on Humble B.
• 46:01
  Tad Eggleston: Humble bundles right now. We've got Sonic the Hedgehog, 35th anniversary from IDW, $18 for 27 items. To support the Children's Miracle Network has been extended to July 24th. Also extended to July 24th, Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, and more from DC Comics, $18 for 30 items for the Book Industry Charitable Foundation.
• 46:24
  Tad Eggleston: number 3 on our list, not a comic, but a comic creation tools. The clip studio creative collection, paint, draw, and animate. This includes a 1 year license to clip studio pro, and and many, many assets to go along with it. Clip studio pro is is
• 46:43
  Tad Eggleston: Probably the most recommended comics.
• 46:46
  Tad Eggleston: Making software.
• 46:49
  Tad Eggleston: Out there right now.
• 46:51
  Tad Eggleston: So $25 for 10 items to support Donors Choose, which is a public education charity. This goes through July 22nd. The Blade Runner Collection at Titan Alcon, $18 for 17 items.
• 47:05
  Tad Eggleston: to Direct Relief, which is an emergency medical charity.
• 47:09
  Tad Eggleston: through July 30th, and new, the Humanoids Mega Bundle Universes Unbound Part 1, which makes me hope that there are more Humanoids Mega Bundles to
• 47:22
  Tad Eggleston: come, because it's $20 for 35 titles, and it says 35 titles, but if you… I went through and counted, it's 151 volumes.
• 47:33
  Phil: Wow.
• 47:33
  Tad Eggleston: Including all of the inkle and techno priests.
• 47:36
  Tad Eggleston: The 2000s Medal Horlant, Mansu Jian, and many, many more. This is to support reading is fundamental and it's through August 5th. And we're actually going to highlight at least a couple items from it in our next couple of weeks of great responsibilities.
• 47:54
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, and I just realized that I neglected to put my Third.
• 48:02
  Tad Eggleston: The third book in? What? I knew what it was.
• 48:05
  Phil: Two amazing books! No, I…
• 48:08
  Tad Eggleston: I knew what it was, though, if you can look up the writer really quick while I am.
• 48:13
  Tad Eggleston: That would be great.
• 48:14
  Phil: Look up the writer?
• 48:15
  Tad Eggleston: Or not the writer thought.
• 48:16
  Phil: Artist? Oh.
• 48:17
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, fill in the artist for me. Yeah.
• 48:21
  Tad Eggleston: 3 amazing books for this week.
• 48:26
  Tad Eggleston: I loved…
• 48:27
  Tad Eggleston: The rap of Jean Le Carre's The Circus Losing Control. Issue number three, David Lapham stepped in for Ibrahim Mustafa with Matt Kent writing, first time ever that I bought a page from a comic before I read the comic.
• 48:47
  Phil: Pretty impress.
• 48:48
  Tad Eggleston: Because Lapham had a crazy sale going, and it included pages from this book, so…
• 48:55
  Tad Eggleston: I recently bought 3 pages of David Lapham art, and
• 49:00
  Tad Eggleston: One of them was from this book, even though it hasn't come out yet.
• 49:05
  Tad Eggleston: Assorted Crisis Events number 9 from Dennis Camp and Eric Zawinski.
• 49:11
  Phil: one.
• 49:12
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean.
• 49:14
  Tad Eggleston: It would have taken either the circus number 1 or the circus number 3 to beat out Assorted Crisis Events number 9.
• 49:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 49:26
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, kicking off the story and wrapping up the story, and the fact that Assorted Crisis Events has been in the number one spot almost every week that it ever comes out.
• 49:37
  Phil: Yeah.
• 49:38
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly given all of those weeks that it came out at the same time as.
• 49:44
  Phil: Marshmallow. Yeah, that.
• 49:46
  Tad Eggleston: Martian Manhunter, where it's like, okay, if you're gonna put out the two you, you know, like.
• 49:54
  Tad Eggleston: I think, I think, like, the worst case scenario is, like, two of the five best books of the week, like, and, like, I can't rank the five, but you've got two of them.
• 50:05
  Phil: Right, holy cow.
• 50:07
  Tad Eggleston: Then you get the one spot.
• 50:12
  Tad Eggleston: That is for sure. Yeah, but I'm trying to fill time so that you can fill up.
• 50:18
  Phil: I know I'm I'm fine. I'm resorting to to Dark Horse's website. There's a a lot of stuff to come out. It's.
• 50:30
  Phil: It's called… Oh, that's why. Oh.
• 50:36
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 50:36
  Phil: Son of a bee sting, technical difficulty.
• 50:40
  Tad Eggleston: My, my, my.
• 50:41
  Phil: Like…
• 50:41
  Tad Eggleston: Third book is, is, is, is,
• 50:46
  Tad Eggleston: Gail Simone's The Ring, The Man Who Beat the Man.
• 50:49
  Tad Eggleston: her, her current boxing book drawn by Elisa Ramboli.
• 50:55
  Phil: Oh, dang it. Right before I just clicked on it.
• 50:59
  Tad Eggleston: There's this crazy thing called Google.
• 51:02
  Phil: I went to Dark Horse's website. I was looking at League of Comic Geeks first. They failed me.
• 51:08
  Tad Eggleston: I wound up going to Dark Horse's website when I googled it and it took me to Dark Horse's website as the top listed thing.
• 51:19
  Phil: That'll teach me to to depend on something other than than Google or or the direct website.
• 51:25
  Phil: You know, shame on me.
• 51:27
  Tad Eggleston: Also, like, when you're in a hurry, you start with Google.
• 51:31
  Phil: That's fair.
• 51:32
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, Google's deep search results are getting worse and worse.
• 51:36
  Phil: Yeah, there, there, there's some, I, I can't stand the summaries. I, I just think.
• 51:41
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't.
• 51:44
  Phil: No, no, no, no.
• 51:45
  Tad Eggleston: In part because of the summaries, in part because they just haven't been spending money on.
• 51:50
  Phil: No.
• 51:50
  Tad Eggleston: The search engine side of things, like doing deep dives using Google as your search engine has become more and more difficult.
• 51:59
  Phil: Well, because they realize most people, the vast majority of users, don't click fast the first page search results, and so that's.
• 52:05
  Tad Eggleston: Right. One of the reasons why… Which…
• 52:07
  Phil: Yeah, okay.
• 52:08
  Tad Eggleston: Which really sucks, because… I haven't found anybody that's clearly better.
• 52:14
  Phil: Right, right. I mean, we've… I'm aware of a handful of non-Google search engines out there, but I haven't bothered to…
• 52:23
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I mess with them sometimes… I mean, sometimes when I'm really looking for something, and I'm having trouble with Google, it's like, okay.
• 52:30
  Tad Eggleston: whatever, right?
• 52:32
  Phil: Okay.
• 52:32
  Tad Eggleston: Because then I'll get different results. Yeah. I have just enough…
• 52:37
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, it's become much harder when you're looking for specific, obscure information.
• 52:44
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 52:45
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, a book that just came out isn't obscure.
• 52:49
  Phil: No.
• 52:50
  Tad Eggleston: I would…
• 52:51
  Phil: I was just inept at the search real quick.
• 52:54
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't even finish typing. I taught the ring the and it had man who beat the man dark horse comics.
• 53:02
  Phil: Wow.
• 53:02
  Tad Eggleston: For me to finish.
• 53:04
  Tad Eggleston: I…
• 53:04
  Phil: I have to imagine that, you know, if I was someone who worked at Google and like there was like a user account related algorithm, you know, I think it'd be pretty safe to bet that the years should be directly connected to like a list of common title databases, stuff like that, you know.
• 53:20
  Tad Eggleston: surfing that it is.
• 53:21
  Phil: Yeah. Okay.
• 53:22
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 53:24
  Tad Eggleston: So anyway, yeah, those are my top. There were other good ones this week.
• 53:30
  Tad Eggleston: Those are my top 3. Take a walk, Phil.
• 53:33
  Phil: Did you, oh, okay. I was gonna ask if you got your banana duct tape to the issue variant.
• 53:38
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 53:39
  Phil: of banana number one.
• 53:40
  Tad Eggleston: Are you kidding? I wasn't paying for that, but.
• 53:42
  Phil: Okay.
• 53:42
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't read it yet, but I got.
• 53:44
  Phil: Gotcha. It's one of those bring your own banana type issues.
• 53:50
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 53:51
  Phil: This week I actually managed to get my butt to the comic store and you know made.
• 53:57
  Phil: A small-sized dent in my pile, but I definitely enjoyed, Die Loaded No. 7 from the usual crew of Gill & Tom's.
• 54:05
  Phil: Coles, Hughes, Ed Image. And as well as Assorted Crisis Events number 9, very much enjoyed it. I loved the black metal, lettering typescript on the last page there that I stared at until I could understand it.
• 54:19
  Phil: And then, A Mischief of Magpies number one finally came out from, Simon Sprayer and Matthias Bergara over at Distillery, and I absolutely adored that. I, I am…
• 54:31
  Phil: A total sucker for, you know.
• 54:34
  Phil: anything this team does together, and I was pleasantly surprised by the majority of the issue being done in like a journalistic style with minimal illustrations, and then journeys into this fantastical world where more the where the comic illustrations came into play. And and then this week I also read gigs, which was an incredible near future sci-fi graphic novel from Mark Mosdale and Cy Simon.
• 54:57
  Tad Eggleston: So, so good.
• 54:58
  Phil: We talked to him. Tad let me crash that interview. It was so much fun. It was a great time. You should go listen to that episode as well. Tad, I see. I see you've managed to read a couple chapters of One Piece.
• 55:09
  Tad Eggleston: I did. I did. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're, they're, they're reorganizing allegiances.
• 55:16
  Tad Eggleston: I feel like I feel like there, there, there may be all out war in the in the new world.
• 55:22
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 55:24
  Tad Eggleston: They're certainly going after this. Luffy and Trafalgar are definitely going to try to take down one of the four emperors. Seems like there's another group that's planning to take down an emperor as well, though it's not clear whether they're going after the same emperor.
• 55:44
  Tad Eggleston: You know, a couple of the Seven Warlords of the Sea are…
• 55:49
  Phil: So there's there's four emperors and seven warlords.
• 55:51
  Tad Eggleston: 4 emperors, 7 warlords, the world government, I, I, I have trouble keeping track of all the shit.
• 55:59
  Phil: Ha ha!
• 55:59
  Tad Eggleston: It's great, it's good, like… Oh.
• 56:04
  Tad Eggleston: But, so yeah, I feel like we're about to hit a mixture of crazy action and court intrigue for a while, and I'm looking forward to it. But I finally, finally also
• 56:17
  Tad Eggleston: finished volume 70 and chapter 700 after after sitting at 698.
• 56:24
  Tad Eggleston: for way too long.
• 56:26
  Phil: I was confir.
• 56:27
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I'm.
• 56:28
  Phil: The halfway point is in sight.
• 56:31
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I know!
• 56:35
  Phil: Oh, I was…
• 56:36
  Tad Eggleston: I might actually be past the halfway point.
• 56:38
  Phil: I think so.
• 56:39
  Tad Eggleston: Check.
• 56:39
  Phil: Mentally, I'm like, oh, it's at least, there's at least 1400 chapters, but.
• 56:44
  Tad Eggleston: It might be in the 1300s now, but I don't think it's into 1400s yet. Yeah.
• 56:50
  Phil: I, I did…
• 56:52
  Tad Eggleston: It is at… it is at… Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba… Oh, you know, oh, no.
• 57:02
  Tad Eggleston: it just stopped scrolling. It is… it's not even at 1200 yet, it's at 1188.
• 57:10
  Phil: Okay, there we go.
• 57:11
  Tad Eggleston: Only 488 chapters behind right now.
• 57:15
  Phil: That is…
• 57:16
  Phil: That is, you could read that in a week if you really wanted to. If you did not.
• 57:20
  Tad Eggleston: He does.
• 57:22
  Phil: Nothing else, you could read that in.
• 57:23
  Tad Eggleston: I think I think that I have cleared more than 100 chapters in a week a couple of times.
• 57:28
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 57:29
  Tad Eggleston: during this run. So, like, if I wanted to set the goal of being caught up by the beginning of the school year.
• 57:37
  Tad Eggleston: I might be able to pull it off. I don't know if I could do that and get to episode 1000 by our fifth anniversary. I was just saying. Right?
• 57:47
  Tad Eggleston: unless I decided to just read one piece on the air.
• 57:51
  Phil: That's what I was going to say. You could. It's just a day in the life at that point, you know.
• 57:57
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't done a solo episode yet.
• 58:00
  Phil: Yeah, that's… that's probably for the best. That's okay.
• 58:03
  Phil: I… I would… I would… Want to list…
• 58:07
  Phil: Of how many solo podcasts are out there? Like how many truly solo like when does that just become like performance art? You know, when is that just stand up comedy without an audience?
• 58:17
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly in comics, there are a decent number, particularly among the, like, preview type.
• 58:23
  Tad Eggleston: You know, read… you know, these are the books that I'm interested in this week.
• 58:27
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 58:28
  Tad Eggleston: types. So it's not impossible.
• 58:32
  Phil: Okay, okay.
• 58:33
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, talk radio is often solo.
• 58:37
  Phil: Yeah… You mean, like, AM radio?
• 58:41
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Phil: That's like all all the the truckers and and fundamental.
• 58:47
  Phil: Fundamentalists on the AM radio, isn'.
• 58:49
  Tad Eggleston: That's right. You didn't spend enough time in Chicagoland where WGN is actually a good AM radio station.
• 58:57
  Phil: Yeah, I never found it. I was always on FM. I listened to, 94.7 The Zone and Q101 back when I was… that was…
• 59:04
  Tad Eggleston: And don't get me wrong, I mean, they have callers, and they have…
• 59:10
  Tad Eggleston: Segments where they do interviews and whatnot, but there are also often, like, chunks where people just talk about things.
• 59:18
  Tad Eggleston: Umm.
• 59:19
  Phil: I guess it's not…
• 59:21
  Tad Eggleston: I guess it's not often just one person, one person, but…
• 59:25
  Phil: Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones style?
• 59:30
  Tad Eggleston: Like, again, kind of like we were talking about baseball.
• 59:34
  Phil: Yes.
• 59:34
  Tad Eggleston: Broadcasting off air, like sometimes things go wrong and you got to fill the space.
• 59:41
  Phil: Yep.
• 59:44
  Phil: That's true.
• 59:44
  Tad Eggleston: You know. That happens. You have a guest not show up.
• 59:48
  Tad Eggleston: Or, I mean…
• 59:49
  Phil: Okay, yeah.
• 59:50
  Tad Eggleston: And a lot of time there would be banter with like the, the, the traffic or weather people, you know.
• 59:57
  Tad Eggleston: news guy that but, like, sometimes they're doing stuff, you know? I mean.
• 1:00:01
  Phil: You just put on a record, you know, at that point.
• 1:00:03
  Tad Eggleston: Sometimes, even on AM,
• 1:00:08
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, I mean, think about it with, with, with DJs. DJs often don't talk to anybody, they just.
• 1:00:14
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:00:14
  Phil: So I'm thinking of I on on NPR, I would listen to the moth storytelling hour, and that was the.
• 1:00:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:00:20
  Phil: People, they'd be telling stories to audiences. I think occasionally they would be, you know, but there'd usually be a variety. So, okay, all.
• 1:00:27
  Tad Eggleston: Right, so what I'm saying is there are, there are ways.
• 1:00:31
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:00:31
  Tad Eggleston: Do it.
• 1:00:32
  Phil: You got me. You got me there. You know?
• 1:00:35
  Tad Eggleston: You know, do I think it would make for a good episode on a regular basis?
• 1:00:40
  Tad Eggleston: No. Particularly not as an audio-only comics podcast.
• 1:00:45
  Phil: You know.
• 1:00:46
  Tad Eggleston: Like, if I was doing video with it, that'd change things.
• 1:00:50
  Phil: That's fair. That's true. Yeah. Solo, solo videography. And that's been going on for a.
• 1:00:55
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean, Elsa Chartier, Hasan Otzman, Al Hao both had fantastic.
• 1:01:05
  Tad Eggleston: Like comics breakdown video.
• 1:01:08
  Phil: Nice.
• 1:01:10
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they're still all up on YouTube, you know, Elsa, Elsa Chartier.
• 1:01:18
  Tad Eggleston: Hassan's at Panel X Panel, I think?
• 1:01:28
  Phil: Yeah, I.
• 1:01:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:01:29
  Phil: It's things.
• 1:01:30
  Tad Eggleston: Well, Panel X Panel was the magazine.
• 1:01:33
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:01:33
  Tad Eggleston: Which was fantastic. I mean, I can't… I I still need to.
• 1:01:40
  Tad Eggleston: to… I own a bunch of them digitally, I still need to, like…
• 1:01:46
  Tad Eggleston: Buy all of the ones that I don't own, because… There's just, like…
• 1:01:52
  Tad Eggleston: There's no reason not to own them all.
• 1:01:54
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. It's really, really simple as it comes. There's no reason not to own them all.
• 1:02:02
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:02:02
  Tad Eggleston: Hahaha.
• 1:02:03
  Phil: That's for sure.
• 1:02:04
  Tad Eggleston: They're that good.
• 1:02:05
  Phil: Yep.
• 1:02:06
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 1:02:08
  Tad Eggleston: But, yeah.
• 1:02:11
  Tad Eggleston: Phil, why don't you, lead off our great responsibility, because.
• 1:02:16
  Phil: Sure.
• 1:02:17
  Tad Eggleston: book, and I.
• 1:02:17
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:02:18
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:02:18
  Tad Eggleston: Overall, you have more to say about it, though I don't want to…
• 1:02:22
  Phil: I… yeah, I mean, it's… it's one where… so, I… I do realize that, you know, because as… as we were talking a little bit before,
• 1:02:33
  Phil: before this. So, Step by Bloody Step is a wordless fantasy story, written by Cy Spurrier, drawn by Matthias Brickera, of, a young girl wandering through a landscape with a giant suit of armor that is carrying her.
• 1:02:51
  Phil: And I guess for me, it's one of those things where I very much enjoy stories that instill a sense of wonder in me.
• 1:03:01
  Phil: Like, I… it…
• 1:03:04
  Phil: something that I can look at and interpret and figure out, you know, kind of like a little mental chew toy, you know, that you can kind of work at and get to the kernel of. And so I…
• 1:03:18
  Phil: I also realize, because that's the thing, is that their first collaboration together, CODA, are you familiar with that one?
• 1:03:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I've read photo. It's another one that a lot of people like, like.
• 1:03:29
  Phil: Yeah. Okay.
• 1:03:29
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, this is how I'm going to put it. I'm going to drop the name of the person I'm most embarrassed not to love, which is Chris Ware.
• 1:03:39
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Which I absolutely love more than I love.
• 1:03:43
  Phil: Same Big shout.
• 1:03:45
  Tad Eggleston: But I haven't managed to crack it yet.
• 1:03:47
  Phil: Yeah, I.
• 1:03:47
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I've read it, but I haven't managed to like.
• 1:03:51
  Phil: I'll tell you, I've read, what is it, Jimmy Corrigan, this Jimmy Crockett, that's his.
• 1:03:58
  Tad Eggleston: Jimmy Corrigan's.
• 1:03:59
  Phil: Jimmy Coren's, yeah. That one, I think I got a copy for a college class and like, I could not get through it. It was too…
• 1:04:09
  Phil: Too just boring. And…
• 1:04:13
  Phil: Yeah, I'm with you there, where I'm like, I… people love Chris Ware, I am not one of those people.
• 1:04:18
  Tad Eggleston: No, I'm… like, I can see… that…
• 1:04:25
  Tad Eggleston: I probably actually do love Chris Ware.
• 1:04:28
  Phil: -Hu.
• 1:04:28
  Tad Eggleston: or will love Chris Ware someday.
• 1:04:31
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:04:32
  Phil: It's just putting in the time to get through it all.
• 1:04:35
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:04:36
  Phil: And like, and so here's the thing. So Coda was a book that I gave to my Uncle Jim, who has a master's in library sciences, and over the past
• 1:04:47
  Phil: not quite 10 years, whenever he visits our family for Thanksgiving, I terrorize him with comics to read. And… and he gives me various opinions of them. And it's usually quite humorous. I remember after I… I gave him Watchmen to read, and he… he finished, he was like, it's just so bleak! And I was like, what do you…
• 1:05:04
  Phil: I'm like, is that it? That's all you got? Just dark and bleak
• 1:05:07
  Phil: But Coda was one that he… he said that he always felt like something was missing, and I guess for me, part of it is that, okay, well, well, Spurrier is a writer who…
• 1:05:18
  Phil: I've been following his work since, like, 2012 or 13, I want to say? So it's over a decade now, and, like.
• 1:05:28
  Phil: I have taken a note like some of the the similarities in in various of his stories, and like kind of how they
• 1:05:35
  Phil: he hasn't had too many, like, long runs as a writer. Like, he did a long run of X-Men Legacy, that starred Legion. That was how I found out about him, and then from reading that and enjoying it, picked up his indie work.
• 1:05:51
  Phil: But then other than that, I think the longest series he's written has been, like, 12 issues, you know? So it's, like, one or two volume stuff. And so…
• 1:05:59
  Phil: he… his career has kind of turned into, like, while not one complete long-running series, because not everything he does is interconnected, it… there's at least through tissue that, like, before CODA, he did a book called The Spire.
• 1:06:13
  Phil: that was also a fantasy world with a similar color palette, and it, like, they feel like they could be in the same fantasy world. If he really wanted to push it, he could probably, you know, say, oh, they're just far apart from each other or something, or before or after another. But, like, that similarity of themes, it allows me to, like, pick up
• 1:06:32
  Phil: from somewhere. And so I guess. And even in this step by bloody step. I it's hard not to see this book as like another side to
• 1:06:43
  Phil: Scythe Spurrier's fantasy, weird fantasy world, you know, and that's what I come back for. And I absolutely love and adore and.
• 1:06:51
  Phil: So.
• 1:06:52
  Phil: This is another one that I currently lent my issues to my sister-in-law because she saw them and was very intrigued. But I would definitely buy this again, as I'm pretty sure the hardcover is oversized because this art is absolutely gorgeous. It just completely blows me away.
• 1:07:13
  Phil: But yeah, it's… I guess it's also a book, because kind of what I was thinking is, like.
• 1:07:19
  Phil: It's a book that…
• 1:07:22
  Phil: anyone who seems interested in comics, like, if they seem like a comic book person, I think they should read this book, you know?
• 1:07:30
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:07:31
  Phil: It's one of those that, like
• 1:07:33
  Phil: I don't use this term often, but in terms of, like, establishing a canon. Like, just a wide… a wide swath of, hey, here's some of the best books of all time that anyone should give a shot, you'll be able to get something out of it, even if it's not exactly your cup of tea.
• 1:07:47
  Phil: And this is one that I throw in that pile. And that was kind of, you know, that was, that was between that and like the same team having a book just come out. That was kind of my thoughts between it being a great responsibility. But
• 1:07:58
  Phil: But yeah.
• 1:07:59
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, I, I,
• 1:08:03
  Tad Eggleston: I think I fall in kind of like your uncle with CODA is, is that like, I, I see that there's something there.
• 1:08:10
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:08:10
  Tad Eggleston: The art is beautiful.
• 1:08:15
  Tad Eggleston: I feel like I'm missing too many pieces of the story to like. And one of the things I said off air is, it's part of it is that I'm a word guy.
• 1:08:25
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. So there's only so far I can manage to piece together things without words. I'm not as good visually. But the other part is that because it's…
• 1:08:38
  Tad Eggleston: in this fantasy sci-fi world.
• 1:08:42
  Tad Eggleston: There's so much more that I need.
• 1:08:47
  Tad Eggleston: to put together.
• 1:08:49
  Tad Eggleston: If that makes sense.
• 1:08:52
  Phil: I think so.
• 1:08:52
  Tad Eggleston: Because, like, I don't just know the rules of the world.
• 1:08:57
  Phil: I gotcha, yeah. Where I can look at a guy and be like, oh, he's an evil emperor type guy, you.
• 1:09:02
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I can look at it and I can guess that, but.
• 1:09:05
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 1:09:06
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, just, just to, to, to use an example from this book, like the, the big.
• 1:09:15
  Tad Eggleston: The big robot-type thing that has her sister and or mother in it, that sort of thing, like…
• 1:09:25
  Tad Eggleston: I go back and forth between, like, and it's one of the reasons that I, like, aside from the face itself, that you have to start thinking of it as sister and the mother, it's like, one moment it seems to be protecting her, and one moment it seems to be, like, actively preventing her from just enjoying her life.
• 1:09:42
  Phil: Right.
• 1:09:43
  Tad Eggleston: You know.
• 1:09:44
  Phil: Keeping her from getting too connected and too invested.
• 1:09:47
  Tad Eggleston: Keeping her from playing.
• 1:09:48
  Phil: Yeah. Okay.
• 1:09:49
  Tad Eggleston: No, you're not allowed to play.
• 1:09:52
  Phil: Right. And so here's one of those things that like, so with this book, I interpret it as it's a metaphor for parenthood.
• 1:10:02
  Tad Eggleston: Probably, and that makes it make more sense to me.
• 1:10:12
  Tad Eggleston: But it's also… like… I want my comics to be…
• 1:10:29
  Tad Eggleston: More than the sum of their parts.
• 1:10:32
  Tad Eggleston: And… At least so far, I don't feel like that, like, if it's just a metaphor for parenth.
• 1:10:40
  Phil: Well, it's more.
• 1:10:41
  Tad Eggleston: For all of these other parts.
• 1:10:43
  Phil: It's more than just that, I would say, you know, because there is the whole fantasy world to it. There's some time travel as well as like the cyclical storytelling, cyclical nature of time where it ends in the same way that it begins, you know.
• 1:11:02
  Phil: which I also… it's one of those things that I…
• 1:11:05
  Phil: I like it when it's done well, and I feel like it's done pretty well here.
• 1:11:10
  Phil: you know, the caveat being, okay, well, how do the same people, you know, it… It's… it's kind of
• 1:11:19
  Phil: Is this idea of, you know, how do you protect a kid from a dangerous world as they're growing up? And visually, it's one of those that. It's one of those experiences that, like, I don't have words for. I only have words for.
• 1:11:33
  Phil: you know.
• 1:11:34
  Phil: how to be a parent to a kid in today's world. I mean, part of it because I don't have to do it right now, but even if I did, I don'
• 1:11:41
  Phil: I can't even imagine some of the things that, you know.
• 1:11:46
  Phil: The choices we'd have to make.
• 1:11:48
  Phil: So it's…
• 1:11:50
  Phil: that's… that's… that's a big part of this one, as well as, like, you know, there being four chapters in each one based on the four seasons, you know. Right.
• 1:11:59
  Phil: there's… you know, I admit there's a whole lot of, like, the aspects of the fantasy world that kind of get…
• 1:12:08
  Phil: waved away, and yeah, it is very much a, okay, once you've read a sufficient amount of, you know, sort of fantasy adventure fiction, it really does fall into place as, okay, what you expect to be happening is happening. But there's still little twists, like, you notice how the
• 1:12:24
  Phil: It's interesting, the symbol for the empire that, like, it's like a T
• 1:12:28
  Phil: in the scribble language that people speak in, you can see it highlighted out in various bubbles, and this time on reading it, I notice that it's the same shape as, like, they looked like, electricity, like,
• 1:12:44
  Phil: Telephone poles.
• 1:12:49
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:12:50
  Phil: like, part of this empire might have been bringing electricity through this landscape and needing to plot this course along the way. And it's… it's just one of those things also where, like.
• 1:13:01
  Phil: you know.
• 1:13:02
  Phil: I… I like being able to… Sit and wonder with that.
• 1:13:07
  Phil: in the moment, looking at the pages. And even if I don't ever come to conclusions afterward, I'm, you know, I'm still okay with that. It's…
• 1:13:17
  Phil: I I think you I well, I would hope that you would enjoy
• 1:13:22
  Phil: They're new series more because there is, first of all, words, period.
• 1:13:26
  Tad Eggleston: It's another one of the books that I didn't actually get to this week, but it's… it's…
• 1:13:37
  Tad Eggleston: Very much.
• 1:13:40
  Tad Eggleston: In, in my,
• 1:13:45
  Tad Eggleston: In my… my… my list of things to… To, to read.
• 1:13:55
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:13:56
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I have it.
• 1:13:58
  Tad Eggleston: multiple times over.
• 1:14:00
  Tad Eggleston: Awesome.
• 1:14:03
  Phil: Oh, right, digitally and physically, there you go, right? For the distillery and stuff, you usually do that.
• 1:14:08
  Tad Eggleston: Right, right.
• 1:14:10
  Tad Eggleston: So… And, and for that matter, I, I loved the ash cam.
• 1:14:17
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:17
  Tad Eggleston: waiting on this season or this for a while just because of how much I love the ash can.
• 1:14:22
  Phil: Oh, nice, okay, I didn't realize you'd read an ash can.
• 1:14:25
  Tad Eggleston: Well, there was digital ash cam.
• 1:14:27
  Phil: Oh!
• 1:14:28
  Tad Eggleston: I'll…
• 1:14:29
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:14:29
  Tad Eggleston: Auxiliary always has digital ash cans.
• 1:14:32
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:14:33
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 1:14:34
  Tad Eggleston: So so I've had.
• 1:14:36
  Tad Eggleston: I've had Digital Ashcan for forever.
• 1:14:42
  Tad Eggleston: So.
• 1:14:44
  Tad Eggleston: like.
• 1:14:45
  Tad Eggleston: Very happy.
• 1:14:47
  Tad Eggleston: That it's finally coming out. Just didn't quite get to it this week, because… Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:52
  Phil: But we should.
• 1:14:53
  Tad Eggleston: to read this week. And Cubs games. A lot of other stuff to go, yeah, a lot of other stuff to do, and then a Cubs game today.
• 1:15:01
  Phil: And a Cubs game yesterday.
• 1:15:04
  Tad Eggleston: No, I didn't have a Cu.
• 1:15:05
  Phil: Oh, okay, I thought you said you had one yesterday.
• 1:15:08
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, no, no, there was stuff that happened yesterday that.
• 1:15:12
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:15:12
  Tad Eggleston: brought up in terms.
• 1:15:13
  Phil: Gotcha. Happened during the game.
• 1:15:16
  Tad Eggleston: one, that one play was from yesterday, not today. Gotcha. It could have, it could have come up with plays from today that were somewhat unique, but it would have been harder, even harder to explain why they were unique.
• 1:15:27
  Phil: That's okay. That's okay. I missed.
• 1:15:30
  Tad Eggleston: To somebody who wasn't a baseball key.
• 1:15:32
  Phil: Well, it was one of those, I was at the point where you mentioned seeing a game yesterday and I just made the assumption.
• 1:15:38
  Tad Eggleston: No, I didn'.
• 1:15:39
  Phil: You were at the field yesterday too.
• 1:15:41
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I didn't actually see all of that game, even. I just, I follow highlights.
• 1:15:46
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:15:46
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, really, with baseball, as much as I love it, I do more reading about it than anything.
• 1:15:53
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 1:15:55
  Tad Eggleston: followed by going to things, followed by listening on the radio, followed by watching TV. So, like, I mean, there's a lot of people that are like, you're such a big baseball fan, how come you didn't watch the game? I'm like, this is…
• 1:16:11
  Tad Eggleston: Like… Part of it is I was.
• 1:16:15
  Tad Eggleston: Part of it is I was spoiled like the best.
• 1:16:20
  Tad Eggleston: TV crew ever, not just in terms of announcing, but in terms of production crew.
• 1:16:26
  Phil: -Hu.
• 1:16:27
  Tad Eggleston: was like… the 1980s to mid-2000s WGN Cubs broadcasts.
• 1:16:38
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:16:38
  Tad Eggleston: Because Arne Harris and Joe Corneo had been producing and directing Cubs games.
• 1:16:44
  Tad Eggleston: Since they went on the air in the 50s.
• 1:16:48
  Phil: Wow.
• 1:16:50
  Tad Eggleston: Right? So By the time technology caught up.
• 1:16:55
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 1:16:58
  Tad Eggleston: And therefore, like, they could do all the things that they wanted, and they only, to my, to my, like, knowledge, I mean, they probably did some other stuff during the off-season, but, like, their primary job was producing and
• 1:17:14
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, the Cubs were one of the first teams to… to…
• 1:17:18
  Tad Eggleston: to televise all of their games. So their primary job for 50-plus years was producing and directing Cubs games.
• 1:17:27
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 1:17:29
  Tad Eggleston: So they had it down.
• 1:17:31
  Tad Eggleston: and they didn't come at it from a different sport perspective, they didn't come at it with network people saying, you gotta make it more interesting, because, like, WGN was one of the first over-air superstations, so really, you just had to make it a baseball game.
• 1:17:47
  Tad Eggleston: Because…
• 1:17:48
  Tad Eggleston: There were going to be thousands of people in the country where that was the only baseball they could watch.
• 1:17:55
  Tad Eggleston: So you wanted it to be a baseball game. You didn't want it to be a spectacle event to compete with
• 1:18:06
  Tad Eggleston: Non-baseball programming.
• 1:18:09
  Tad Eggleston: you wanted to get to the people who wouldn't be watching TV at all at this time.
• 1:18:14
  Tad Eggleston: but loved baseball, but lived somewhere where there was no baseball on TV, because you're not old enough to really remember over-the-air broadcasting, and you grew up in metro areas.
• 1:18:26
  Tad Eggleston: Like…
• 1:18:27
  Phil: Yep.
• 1:18:28
  Tad Eggleston: When I was a kid, you could get, like.
• 1:18:31
  Tad Eggleston: If you didn't have cable, and like, the first time we had cable.
• 1:18:35
  Tad Eggleston: In my household, I think I was 14 or 15.
• 1:18:39
  Phil: Oh, okay, wow.
• 1:18:41
  Tad Eggleston: And if you didn't have cable, you had maybe.
• 1:18:45
  Tad Eggleston: 12 stations.
• 1:18:47
  Phil: Gotch.
• 1:18:48
  Tad Eggleston: VHS, VHF and UHF.
• 1:18:50
  Phil: And I was growing up in a time where cable was ubiquitous and satellite was where the upgrades were coming in.
• 1:18:59
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:18:59
  Phil: Fun stuff.
• 1:19:00
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, if I went down to my Aunt Janet's.
• 1:19:04
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:19:05
  Tad Eggleston: Metapaeoria She got 2.
• 1:19:08
  Phil: Oh, wow.
• 1:19:11
  Phil: Holy cow. Yeah, that, that is, that is wild by comparison.
• 1:19:16
  Tad Eggleston: But one of them was WGN.
• 1:19:19
  Phil: Okay, I see what you're saying here.
• 1:19:22
  Phil: So this was literally…
• 1:19:23
  Tad Eggleston: Again, and.
• 1:19:24
  Phil: The only baseball.
• 1:19:25
  Tad Eggleston: Well, WGN and TBS and and and and like it it it's it's.
• 1:19:31
  Tad Eggleston: Not surprising that TBS also started broadcasting Braves games relatively early on and eventually even like Ted Turner who
• 1:19:42
  Tad Eggleston: I had bought TBS, bought the Braves, or I forget which order that was in.
• 1:19:48
  Tad Eggleston: They set up, like, at the time to have
• 1:19:52
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they were called superstations, but what it meant was They broadcast over the air.
• 1:20:02
  Tad Eggleston: at a really high wattage.
• 1:20:05
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 1:20:07
  Tad Eggleston: But also they had high wattage relay stations.
• 1:20:11
  Tad Eggleston: Spread out across the country.
• 1:20:14
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 1:20:15
  Tad Eggleston: So, they were essentially broadcasting over air from Chicago down to Peoria, from Peoria down to St. Louis, and actually probably 2 or 3 relay stations in between Chicago and Peoria. 2 or 3, you know, so they had…
• 1:20:31
  Tad Eggleston: collections of towers to broadcast all over.
• 1:20:37
  Tad Eggleston: And the Cubs, this is part of their brand, because the Cubs were one of the first teams on the radio as well, and WGN is a 50,000 watt station, which is, like, the most powerful AM
• 1:20:51
  Tad Eggleston: you're allowed to broadcast. I think there are only two other ones in the country. There's one in Cincinnati, and I think one out west. So, like, you, on a clear night.
• 1:21:04
  Tad Eggleston: You could get WGN.
• 1:21:07
  Tad Eggleston: from the Rockies to the Appalachians.
• 1:21:13
  Phil: That is impressive.
• 1:21:15
  Tad Eggleston: You know, and way up into Canada.
• 1:21:18
  Tad Eggleston: all the way down to the Gulf of Mexico.
• 1:21:21
  Phil: Have you ever read, Satellite Sam?
• 1:21:24
  Phil: Yeah. Or taken… yeah, okay.
• 1:21:26
  Phil: This is making me want to do that is a great responsibility because of it being about TV. But of course we got, we got.
• 1:21:32
  Tad Eggleston: I'm, I mean, that's definitely something that we, we could look at. I mean, it might be worth, worth.
• 1:21:39
  Tad Eggleston: Actually, here here's an idea for for future great responsibility is.
• 1:21:43
  Tad Eggleston: Is looking at other mediums through comics.
• 1:21:46
  Phil: That is, I like the sound of that. I do like the sound of that because that.
• 1:21:50
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, there's been a slew of, of, you know, I still need to read it, but.
• 1:21:55
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:21:55
  Tad Eggleston: One of the one of the highly, highly talked about graphic novels last year, or was it earlier this year even, was Lucas Wars.
• 1:22:04
  Tad Eggleston: The true story of George Lucas and the creation of Star Wars.
• 1:22:08
  Phil: Oh, I hadn't heard of that.
• 1:22:10
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Interesting. It was, it was, Laurent Hopman and Renee, Rena Roche.
• 1:22:16
  Phil: Okay.
• 1:22:17
  Tad Eggleston: Came out September 16th, 2025.
• 1:22:21
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, actually, particularly, particularly among Band-Aid Snake stuff, there's been a lot of…
• 1:22:28
  Tad Eggleston: a lot of non-fiction comics dealing… I mean, even among the Humble Bundle that I told you to look at, there's actually one of the titles
• 1:22:39
  Tad Eggleston: is… For the Humanoids Humble Bundle, one of the titles is All of Tomorrow's Parties, which is…
• 1:22:52
  Tad Eggleston: So I clicked on it, and it didn't actually take me where I wanted to go Oh.
• 1:22:59
  Tad Eggleston: So we'll look at it's I want to say, Graphic novel… about the velvet.
• 1:23:06
  Tad Eggleston: underground.
• 1:23:08
  Phil: Oh, okay, that sounds interesting.
• 1:23:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no.
• 1:23:11
  Phil: Velvet Underground is one of those bands that I know I… it's kind of like my Chris Ware of music, in that I haven't gotten into it yet, but I'm sure I will at some point.
• 1:23:21
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, all tomorrow's parties, the Velvet Underground story.
• 1:23:25
  Phil: Mmhm.
• 1:23:26
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 1:23:26
  Phil: I remember hearing about when that was getting Kickstarted.
• 1:23:29
  Tad Eggleston: Down.
• 1:23:30
  Phil: Yep.
• 1:23:31
  Tad Eggleston: So, so yeah, I mean, for that matter, also put out previously,
• 1:23:39
  Tad Eggleston: By, oh, is it, oh, it's even the same guy.
• 1:23:43
  Tad Eggleston: The, the, the, the velvet art ground is done by, by,
• 1:23:49
  Tad Eggleston: Koren Shadme, who previously has done Twilight Man, which was about
• 1:23:56
  Tad Eggleston: Why can't I remember the guy that, that, that…
• 1:24:00
  Tad Eggleston: Who's the guy, Rod Serling.
• 1:24:06
  Tad Eggleston: And, and he did a book called Lugosi about Bela Lugosi.
• 1:24:10
  Phil: Oh, okay.
• 1:24:11
  Tad Eggleston: So Corinne Shadmi has done… You know, Twilight Man is one of… one of three You know.
• 1:24:20
  Tad Eggleston: looking at major figures in other mediums, and therefore also
• 1:24:25
  Tad Eggleston: In part, looking at the mediums.
• 1:24:28
  Phil: Yes.
• 1:24:29
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 1:24:31
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah.
• 1:24:32
  Tad Eggleston: But anyway, we we should.
• 1:24:36
  Tad Eggleston: Wrap up. I, I, we were, we were on, we were on pace for, for nine, for a few minutes there. Then we just kind of fell off again.
• 1:24:47
  Phil: You know, we're…
• 1:24:48
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:24:49
  Phil: We're in, we're right in the 22 panels pocket of hour and a half, you know.
• 1:24:53
  Tad Eggleston: Right. So, three books I hope will be spectacular. First, I gotta say, I know that American Nature Prevents number four is spectacular, and Narco number five is spectacular.
• 1:25:08
  Tad Eggleston: I highly suspect that all of these next three will be spectacular, but I haven't actually read them yet. Peril of the Brutal Dark and Ezra Kane Mystery. Number six, Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips wrap up their noir. Godzilla versus America, San Diego.
• 1:25:27
  Phil: My birthplace…
• 1:25:28
  Tad Eggleston: Comic-Con just in time for Comic-Con Godzilla is showing up in San Diego this also includes stories for a story from Greg and fake of the Santos sisters cannot wait so if Godzilla.
• 1:25:40
  Phil: Zillow steps on a LEGO exhibit, does that hurt like 10,000 times more than.
• 1:25:44
  Tad Eggleston: Oh my god. One Lego, you know? I would imagine, yeah.
• 1:25:48
  Phil: Well, prevention tactics.
• 1:25:49
  Tad Eggleston: Yep, yep. And dog tag number 3 from Mark Russell and Pj. Holden at Mad Cave, his World War 2 story.
• 1:25:57
  Phil: That looks good too.
• 1:25:58
  Tad Eggleston: The first two issues have been outstanding, so I have high hopes it will continue to be so.
• 1:26:06
  Tad Eggleston: So, Phil, what is your,
• 1:26:09
  Phil: My giant-sized trade waiter graphic novel pick is Our Soot-Stained Heart from Joni Haig, Stephen Morian, Rope Man, or Ropen, and Hassan Atsmain El Hao over at Mad Cave. I need to read this one because Stephen Morian is an incredible artist who, you know, has done
• 1:26:29
  Phil: magnificent work with Dennis Camp, so he's the kind of guy that I definitely want to see whatever he draws.
• 1:26:35
  Tad Eggleston: All right. I just thought this was out already.
• 1:26:38
  Phil: Me too, which I was a little surprised that it popped up.
• 1:26:41
  Tad Eggleston: But but I guess it, I guess, I guess it got pushed back.
• 1:26:45
  Phil: Yeah, stuff is that's happening like sporadically.
• 1:26:48
  Tad Eggleston: Well.
• 1:26:49
  Phil: Publish.
• 1:26:49
  Tad Eggleston: Definitely, there's definitely been some, some supply.
• 1:26:53
  Phil: Mmh.
• 1:26:54
  Tad Eggleston: stuff. I want to say that PRH even put something out recently about there being.
• 1:27:00
  Phil: Between all the printing that happens in Canada and China. Yeah.
• 1:27:04
  Phil: Yeah, it's it. It's getting even more difficult than it already has been.
• 1:27:09
  Tad Eggleston: Right. Oh, and I want to say, I want to say there was something from, from Banner Graphics talking about how they've also got stuff stuck at customs.
• 1:27:19
  Phil: Jeez, that sucks.
• 1:27:21
  Tad Eggleston: Because go figure when you cut the budget.
• 1:27:25
  Tad Eggleston: For what government does.
• 1:27:28
  Phil: Oh.
• 1:27:29
  Phil: You not only cut your vital explosive diarrhea detection services, but you also cut things like.
• 1:27:35
  Tad Eggleston: Slow down things coming into the country.
• 1:27:38
  Phil: That rich people don't fucking have to deal with. So, yeah.
• 1:27:43
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:27:44
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, haha.
• 1:27:46
  Phil: Gotta look into some comic book smuggling tactics.
• 1:27:49
  Tad Eggleston: Something like that. Yep.
• 1:27:53
  Tad Eggleston: For… for Phil and myself, this has been the 245th
• 1:27:59
  Tad Eggleston: Weekly episode of 22 panels, 902.
• 1:28:05
  Tad Eggleston: recordings in total.
• 1:28:09
  Tad Eggleston: and we will see you.
• 1:28:11
  Tad Eggleston: After the next page.