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Breaking News - Is Taylor Frankie Paul In The Clear? · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Almost Famous OG podcast. It's Trista and Bob. We are reunited,
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  Speaker 1: back together for some breaking news.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul news TFP.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is there any other type of news out there?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there is.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it is not Frankie Friday. It's Frankie Wednesday or Tuesday. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Frankie Tuesday. No, it's Taylor Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Tuesday. There you go.
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  Speaker 1: It's Taylor Tuesday, not Frankie Friday. We've got some breaking
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  Speaker 1: news and we wanted to bring it to y'all's attention.
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  Speaker 1: We have we have an article. Taylor Frankie Paul will
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  Speaker 1: not face domestic violence charges in alleged Dakota Mortensen dispute.
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  Speaker 2: Hot off the presses. This just hit us weekly. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it is, it is pretty crazy. This, you know, this
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  Speaker 2: woman's life was blown up by a video being released
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  Speaker 2: that you know, quite frankly, had been around for quite
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  Speaker 2: some time. Everyone knew about it, your and it you know,
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  Speaker 2: tanked the show basically probably put her about an inch
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  Speaker 2: away from you know, I don't even know if she
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  Speaker 2: checked herself at a therapy or not, but she probably
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  Speaker 2: into into any type of you know, retreat, but probably
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  Speaker 2: buried in some therapy. A lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: issues going on there, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: now it's like, nope, it's not going to be what
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  Speaker 2: anyone thought it was. It's not going to And I
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  Speaker 2: find that very interesting, Like it's i mean, that video
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  Speaker 2: was pretty damning, but you know, I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 2: maybe they just assumed that, you know, it's that was
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  Speaker 2: happening that caused season five to be put on hold,
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  Speaker 2: that caused the Bachelorette to be put on I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know what they call it, be putting out, but
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  Speaker 2: be pulled off the shelves.
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  Speaker 1: They paused it they paused, it is what they said recently,
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  Speaker 1: so they all in the news it was said that
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette this season was canceled, and then recently it's
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  Speaker 1: been reported. And actually I talked to a producer right
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  Speaker 1: before that came out that she said it has been paused.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so it's it's possible that we could, in theory
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  Speaker 2: see this episode of the Bachelorette, now right, I mean this,
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  Speaker 2: this whole report was based around. You know, that video
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  Speaker 2: was really what kind of made everything blow up. But
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  Speaker 2: you know this had happened on the filming of Mormon Wives.
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  Speaker 2: It's been dismissed now and so you know, let's get
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  Speaker 2: into it. I'll read a little bit of the article
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  Speaker 2: and you can take over from there. How's that sound,
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  Speaker 2: go for it. So, Taylor Frankie Paul will not be
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  Speaker 2: charged in her latest alleged domestic violence dispute against ex
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  Speaker 2: Dakota Mortensen. After reviewing reports and evidence submitted to the
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  Speaker 2: Draper Police Department in West Jordan Police Department, the Salt
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  Speaker 2: Lake County District Attorney's office has declined to file charges
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  Speaker 2: against Taylor Frankie Paul, just as Attorney Sam Gill's office
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  Speaker 2: set in the statement obtained by US Weekly on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: April fourteenth, so literally today. News broke on Monday, March
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  Speaker 2: sixteenth that Taylor and Dakota were involved in alleged dispute
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  Speaker 2: that halted production of season five of the Secret Lives
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  Speaker 2: of Mormon Wives. It goes on to say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there was a domestic assault investigation into the matter, and
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  Speaker 2: according to authorities, allegations were made in both directions. Contact
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  Speaker 2: was made with involved parties on February twenty fourth and
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifth. So this is all really recent. Obviously, if
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  Speaker 2: you haven't heard it was, I'm sure you have. It's
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  Speaker 2: been pretty much everywhere. Three years earlier, Taylor was arrested
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  Speaker 2: following a separate altercation. That's the one that the video
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  Speaker 2: was released on TMZ that I think really kind of
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  Speaker 2: blew this whole thing up, you know, and it really
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  Speaker 2: kind of just it's bananas interesting. Dakota claimed in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three after the dispute, in a Daily Mail interview
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  Speaker 2: that he thought Taylor would never hurt anyone intentionally, that
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  Speaker 2: she's a good mom. She's going through a lot in
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  Speaker 2: her life. She's been struggling. It's been a hard year
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  Speaker 2: for her. She's wrecked with guilt over her cheating scandels,
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  Speaker 2: like scandels that cost her her marriage, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it just goes on to I mean, those were nice
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  Speaker 2: things he was saying at the time. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you actually know Taylor, right, You've met her, you spent
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  Speaker 2: some time with her. I'm sure your feelings on this
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  Speaker 2: have got to be a little bit different than the
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  Speaker 2: you know, than the average person out there like me
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  Speaker 2: who has just watched it all unfold the news, because
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  Speaker 2: I don't know her, and so I mean, how do
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  Speaker 2: you feel about all this? This has to hit you
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  Speaker 2: a little bit differently, I'm sure than you know, probably
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  Speaker 2: others school. I know, in the in the beginning, when
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  Speaker 2: you and I were talking about this whole thing, I
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  Speaker 2: remember you saying, you know, you're like this guy. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a piece of work. And I wasn't blaming you
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  Speaker 2: one bit for that, because it is kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know, neither one of them. You know, we're running
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  Speaker 2: to protect that child when the chair was thrown, but
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  Speaker 2: you know the video was wrolling.
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  Speaker 1: No, he was walking towards the child. He was walking
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  Speaker 1: towards the child. You know, I am I try to
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  Speaker 1: give people the benefit of the doubt, right. And I
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  Speaker 1: did meet Taylor and loved her, welcomed her. Was the
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  Speaker 1: person that welcomed her to the group chat like officially,
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  Speaker 1: was the one to welcome her to like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: become a bachelorette with all of us on the Bachelorette reunion,
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  Speaker 1: handed her her sweatsuit.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that very nice, Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was great, and she was and she was lovely.
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  Speaker 1: She was so genuine and funny and just so vested
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  Speaker 1: in being there and hearing from all of us and
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  Speaker 1: getting our advice right. So I just I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she could have been like if she wasn't there for
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  Speaker 1: the right reasons, then she could have been totally aloof
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  Speaker 1: and like staring at the camera and like going off
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  Speaker 1: and talking to her producer friends and whatever. But she
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  Speaker 1: was there with us, like she was asking us questions
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  Speaker 1: that came from the heart. You could tell it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't forced, it wasn't like scripted, and maybe she
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  Speaker 1: was given like ideas of questions, but she was there
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  Speaker 1: to learn from us, and it was completely genuine. And
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  Speaker 1: I when that video came out, it was two years old,
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  Speaker 1: three years old, at the time something like that between
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  Speaker 1: two and three years, right, And my whole thing was
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  Speaker 1: she served her time. She pled guilty to oh And
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  Speaker 1: actually the article goes on to say, this is a
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  Speaker 1: quote from Taylor getting arrested. It was the worst night
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  Speaker 1: of my life. I ended up being charged with aggravated
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  Speaker 1: assault with three years of probation. She admitted after the arrest.
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  Speaker 1: I was under so much stress. I was filmed leaving
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  Speaker 1: the jail and then was immediately on the internet. It
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  Speaker 1: was a blessing in disguise. It helped me wake up.
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  Speaker 1: And in the video, if you've watched her interactions with
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  Speaker 1: the police officers and if you've heard him talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: she is clearly wasted, like she is totally trashed. I
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  Speaker 1: guess he had to pick her up. I think he
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  Speaker 1: was wasted, like pick her up in a car because
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  Speaker 1: she was at some party whatever. And since then, I
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  Speaker 1: believe at least she has said that she has been sober,
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  Speaker 1: like she stopped. I think that's what she means when
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  Speaker 1: she says she woke up. Yeah, she had a wake
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  Speaker 1: up like this is life. I endangered my child, and
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  Speaker 1: as a mother, of course, you never want to endanger
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  Speaker 1: your child. And being the person that endangered your child
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  Speaker 1: has got to be so heavy. So also the whole
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  Speaker 1: Dakota thing, like I you know, of course there were
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  Speaker 1: there was so much on Instagram, like they literally couldn't
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  Speaker 1: go on Instagram without something being about Taylor, Like it
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  Speaker 1: was constant and on everybody's feed, And there were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things that were coming into my feed that
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  Speaker 1: were about like reactive abuse and abusive relationships. And she
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  Speaker 1: has said I think, actually she said it in this
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  Speaker 1: article like she wasn't blaming him for the toxicity because
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  Speaker 1: she said it takes too to tango, But here it
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  Speaker 1: says it was hard because I'm obviously a part of that.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like I'm pointing the finger like he is
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  Speaker 1: the toxic one it takes to to tango. We were
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  Speaker 1: just not progressing. We like each other sometimes and then
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  Speaker 1: we fight. It's really hard to explain to people, and
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  Speaker 1: unless you've been in that situation, it's hard to understand.
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  Speaker 1: If I could just now out of it, trust me,
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  Speaker 1: I would. It's just a lot harder said than done.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's how I haven't personally been in
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  Speaker 1: a physically abusive relationship, but I have heard from people
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I actually studied psychology as a minor, Like, please,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like this much, like I know this much about psychology,
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like you learn that that's how abusive
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  Speaker 1: relationships work, right, you are addicted to each other. You
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  Speaker 1: just go back to it, even though you know you're
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  Speaker 1: so bad for each other and the person is not
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  Speaker 1: right for you. You're addicted. And I just my heart goes
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  Speaker 1: out to her because I feel like she knows that
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  Speaker 1: this is a toxic relationship and she knows that it
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  Speaker 1: brings out a bad side to her. But I believe
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  Speaker 1: that she served her time. She's also on probation and
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  Speaker 1: she got sober. I don't know if she went to rehab,
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  Speaker 1: but through her posts, it seems like she was doing
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  Speaker 1: a lot of self care. So when that happened, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, this is too bad. And then oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: when the whole Dakota show, like the Unwell show that
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  Speaker 1: he's on right now, Yeah, Dakota was actually cut out
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  Speaker 1: of an episode of vander pump Villa that he was on,
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  Speaker 1: So yes, there's that, but he's part of this whole
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  Speaker 1: other show through Unwell, and I just I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of see a little bit of a double standard,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's too bad that the show was canceled.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that there was any way around it.
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  Speaker 1: It needed to be paused. For sure, it needed to
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  Speaker 1: be paused. There was too much going on. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this article that's out, or the information that's
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  Speaker 1: just come out about the alleged alleged domestic violence charges
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  Speaker 1: that they are not charging Taylor, I think is I
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  Speaker 1: think it's amazing and it gives me hope that we
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  Speaker 1: are going to see this season of that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do you think and this is me just
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  Speaker 2: being Devil's advocate, but they always say that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: no press is bad press or whatever, right, all press
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  Speaker 2: is good press or whatever. Whatever that's saying. Is part
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  Speaker 2: of me wonders if this press cycle wasn't just so exhaustive,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to the point where do people want to
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  Speaker 2: see her still? Do people want to watch the show?
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  Speaker 2: Is it still one of those things that it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be like an act, like you want to watch it,
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  Speaker 2: like you know you gonna turn your head and watch it,
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  Speaker 2: or has it has it moved on? I mean, are
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  Speaker 2: people already kind of like okay, well we've seen her
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  Speaker 2: in the news constantly for the last six weeks or
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  Speaker 2: whatever that timeframe has been. Are they done with this?
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  Speaker 2: Do they want to still see it? I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: actually think it's interesting because part of me thinks I
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  Speaker 2: may not have wanted to watch it previously, and now
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I guess what, you know, maybe I
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  Speaker 2: will just see what these guys are like or something,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because that's the part I love about the
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  Speaker 2: show the most is meeting all the personalities of all
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  Speaker 2: these different people. And that's the one thing I felt
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  Speaker 2: like we were robbed of a little bit, right, was
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  Speaker 2: actually getting to meet these people from all over the
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  Speaker 2: country that you know she was going to kind of
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  Speaker 2: have as her suitor.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, and I think that is definitely a valid point.
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  Speaker 1: But I think she's still all over the news. I
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  Speaker 1: think that we're talking about her right now. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: think that people are still interested. If people weren't interested,
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  Speaker 1: then we would literally not be recording.
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  Speaker 2: What about the fact though, that we already know how
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  Speaker 2: the show ends, right, we already know that she doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Well I was going to say that, and honestly, when
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  Speaker 1: it was canceled, I was like, Okay, Well, normally I
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  Speaker 1: don't like to be surprised and I don't pay attention,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like, I kind of want to know
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  Speaker 1: now because we might not get this season. Even though
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  Speaker 1: I know how it ended, I still want to watch
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  Speaker 1: because I want to see the guys I want to see.
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  Speaker 1: I actually just saw and I don't know if this
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  Speaker 1: is legit or not, but I just saw that supposedly
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  Speaker 1: she was going to be on the next season of
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  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, and they did a date on
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette announcing her being on Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 1: So and then someone said wherever I read this, I
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  Speaker 1: can't even remember where I read it, but it was
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  Speaker 1: somewhere on Instagram that because she wasn't being considered anymore,
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  Speaker 1: that Tasha is being considered. So I have no idea
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  Speaker 1: if that is true or not or fake news, but
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  Speaker 1: if she is still going to maybe be on Dancing
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  Speaker 1: with the Stars, then I kind of want to see
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  Speaker 1: that storyline, you know, like I want to see her
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  Speaker 1: be announced, not that she has to, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to give these guys their moment in the sun and
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  Speaker 1: be able to get to know them because we did,
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  Speaker 1: you know, cover when the cast was announced and it
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  Speaker 1: seems like she has a great cast, so and I
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: hate using that word. I hate the word cast, but
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  Speaker 1: what other word are we going to use?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, great group of guys, Yeah, a great group. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So wait, we know they did something. Gleb on Dancing
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  Speaker 1: with the Stars references meeting Taylor and shooting with her,
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  Speaker 1: which would have been on The Bachelorette. So I bet
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  Speaker 1: there's some truth to that, and that was on the
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  Speaker 1: Unwell Show. That was on the Unwell Show that Gleb
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  Speaker 1: was talking about it. So anyway, I want to see it.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's if it's going to be on ABC,
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  Speaker 1: if it's going to be on Hulu, if it's not
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  Speaker 1: going to even air, it's all obviously yet to be determined.
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  Speaker 1: But I do want to see it. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: this to be the end, like for everyone to have
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  Speaker 1: a bad taste in their mouth about Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
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  Speaker 1: And even though we know spoiler alert that you know
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  Speaker 1: she ends up with the happy ending, the happy ending
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  Speaker 1: ends up not being a happy ending, but I still
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  Speaker 1: want to see the happy ending.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, call me crazy, call me crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's also one of those things too. You
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  Speaker 2: never know, right, You never know what could happen. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: clearly she had a connection with a guy on the
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  Speaker 2: show and her life gotten away a little bit, and
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  Speaker 2: you know things went sideways. But you never know, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, crazier things have happened. So let's pick up
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  Speaker 2: on this next article. This was in Deadline. It says
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  Speaker 2: a letter sent Tuesday to the Draper and West Jordan
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  Speaker 2: cop shops. The Utah Prosecutor stated the complainant in these
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  Speaker 2: cases reported several incidences, some of which occurred more than
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  Speaker 2: three years ago. Any incidents of misdemeanor offenses which are
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  Speaker 2: alleged to have occurred more than two years ago are
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  Speaker 2: barred by the Statute of Limitations, So there's my question
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  Speaker 2: being answered. Incidents which are alleged to have occurred within
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  Speaker 2: the statute of limitations have also been reviewed. The DA
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  Speaker 2: added several incidents that were submitted do not rise to
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  Speaker 2: the level of criminal offenses. The remaining incidents lacked sufficient
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  Speaker 2: evidence to support filing criminal charges, where a state must
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  Speaker 2: be able to prove such allegations beyond a reasonable doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Such incidents lacked specificity as to when and what actually occurred,
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  Speaker 2: or corroboration based on the evidence submitted for screening by
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  Speaker 2: the Jper Police Department in West Jordan Police Department. The
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  Speaker 2: Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office declines the file and
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  Speaker 2: he charges. The good news for Paul today comes a
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  Speaker 2: week after a Beehive state official ruled the mother of
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  Speaker 2: three cannot spend unsupervised time with her toddler's son with Mortenson.
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  Speaker 2: That April seventh hearing also saw Paul get a temporary
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  Speaker 2: restraining order against Mortenson. Protective orders hearing for both Paul
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  Speaker 2: and Mortenson before Third District Court Commissioner Russell Minaz has
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  Speaker 2: been set for April thirtieth. So there you go. So
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  Speaker 2: she's still not able to see her child unsupervised, but.
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  Speaker 1: At least she's able to see you. Yeah, and she
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  Speaker 1: filed a restraining order that was approved, so she has
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  Speaker 1: a restraining order against him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess that helps a little bit for you know,
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  Speaker 2: from just a public perception situation, like you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you know someone again who doesn't know her from Adam
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  Speaker 2: and all I'm reading is, man, this dude's got you know,
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  Speaker 2: protective orders against her. You know, he's worried about getting hurt.
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  Speaker 2: It almost makes it look like, you know, he's just
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  Speaker 2: the victim every single time, not that he's stirring up
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  Speaker 2: the sauce. And this obviously shows that he's probably been
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  Speaker 2: known to do some things too, which you know, have
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  Speaker 2: been alleged as well. So it's just a hot mess
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  Speaker 2: no matter how you slice it. It's sad when there's
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  Speaker 2: kids involved, and it's just you know, it's just brutal,
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  Speaker 2: you know it is.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: It's awful. I mean that's the first concern you have
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: as a parent is for the kids. Yeah, but I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: just also have been worried about her mental health and
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: because it's got to be so hard. It's one thing
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: to be going through all of what her and Dakota
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: are going through privately, and you throw in, you know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the public and you know, she put herself in the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: public eye. So people often will say, well, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you're you're getting what you ask for. Well not really,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: because people are really mean and hateful.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: No one asks for what she's gone through.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: No, you don't know the death threats and the whatever. Like,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like people are just really mean and I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: that's not what you ask for. That's there's no room
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: for hatred.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: No, Well, I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful for a few things.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Here's what I'm hopeful for. Honestly, I'm not I'm not
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: sure how I feel about whether or not the show
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: airs right, Like I want, I don't want the Bachelor
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: of the bachel Ute to be done on a bad note,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: like like we're saying. But what I would love to
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: see happen is I'd love to see her get to
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: a healthy and a good place, her be able to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: see her kids again, her in Dakota, to be able
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: to coexist but not be horrible to each other, Him
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: to quit, you know, trying to bait her into doing things.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that that's the case, but
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: that's how it feels to me. Like when I see
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: this stuff, I would love to see all that happen,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: And if by some crazy chance, we actually do get
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to see that that that run of the show, I
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: think that would be great, you know, But that's that's
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: at the end of my wish list. I want this
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: other stuff to happen first, and I feel like if
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: it does, then then maybe some good stuff can come
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: from it, you know, I hope.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. All Right, Well, thanks for jumping on.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Thanks podcast Bobo.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Who loves It, Who loves It? Thank you so much
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: for finally calling by by God given name, Heather. Appreciate it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. We will be continuing to follow this
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: story and the next court hearing is on April thirtieth,
• 19:23
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• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Bob from Almost Famous. O'jeez. Thanks for listening.
• 19:31
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