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Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff · Nov 28, 2025 · 47m

In this classic April 2021 conversation, Independent Americans host Paul Rieckhoff sits down with actor Jon Bernthal for a raw, unfiltered look at America at a breaking point—through the eyes of a storyteller who has spent years playing warriors, cops and complicated men on the edge. They dig into service, violence, fatherhood, justice and what it really means to “have someone’s back” when the cameras are off and the country is in crisis.​

Bernthal and Rieckhoff get real about the distance between Hollywood’s image of war and the lived experience of veterans and military families, and why…