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Today’s Popcorn Moment: Democrat Catholics are appalled by Trump, but not abortion · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 1: The popcorn moment, Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: It's the story you need to hear to believe. Then
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  Speaker 2: grab your popcorn because there is more of me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Tony kat. This is ninety three w ib C guys.
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  Speaker 1: Good to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: I had a whole host of things that I could
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  Speaker 2: have gotten to. So I guess I can give you
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  Speaker 2: an option. I can give you Rosie o'donald or I
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  Speaker 2: can give.
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  Speaker 1: You ilhan Omar. What I'm sorry, I I I didn't
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear that I said.
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  Speaker 2: I can give you Rosie o'donald or I can give
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  Speaker 2: you ilhan Omar.
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  Speaker 1: Which one? Which? Which one?
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  Speaker 2: Would you?
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  Speaker 1: Would you like? Oh? God? These are your options.
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  Speaker 2: Not even supposed to be here today, but we are here,
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  Speaker 2: and we're here together. We're like an hour away from
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  Speaker 2: the from the t K Thursday music moment. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot going on. These are your options, and I
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  Speaker 2: know you don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: Have to choose. Oh by you. If you don't choose,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna plan both. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I'll start with Governor Andy Basheer of Kentucky, because somehow
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  Speaker 2: we're still talking about Trump and the Pope.
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  Speaker 1: As if this is a thing.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, did I see it right that Trump
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  Speaker 2: put out a new image of Jesus embracing him?
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: Did he really do that? He's like, well, if they're
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  Speaker 2: angry with me, I'm going all the way in. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's exactly who he is. There was a story about
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  Speaker 2: how religion has picked up an importance with men eighteen
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  Speaker 2: to twenty nine, like it's become much more important in
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  Speaker 2: their lives.
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  Speaker 1: And part of the.
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  Speaker 2: Reason for that is the political left has created a
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  Speaker 2: world where you've told men that they're terrible and they're awful,
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  Speaker 2: and you've told men that they're wrong and they're toxic.
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  Speaker 2: And what they're looking for is something to connect to,
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  Speaker 2: something to believe in, something that gives them a sense
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  Speaker 2: of purpose. And I've also seen a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: making moves towards Catholicism.
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  Speaker 1: Well better this than making a move towards the.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Tates, Tucker Carlson, Nick Flintes of the world. I
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  Speaker 2: would I have no issue with a move towards religion.
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  Speaker 2: I would have an issue with a move towards those
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous fools.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe that's why what Trump has put out has
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  Speaker 1: been seen.
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  Speaker 2: You know where Trump was basically imitating Jesus, which he wasn't,
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  Speaker 2: being a doctor, it's not what happened in the imagery.
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  Speaker 1: He did. What he did, and some people had an
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  Speaker 1: issue with.
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  Speaker 2: It, although no one has reached out to me and said,
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  Speaker 2: some people, what are two? People on the live stream
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  Speaker 2: thought it was in bad taste, but no one said, Tony,
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  Speaker 2: this was really disgusting. And here's why I didn't get
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  Speaker 2: any of those kinds of responses. But some people could
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  Speaker 2: have felt that way. Some people could have just been
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  Speaker 2: annoyed with it. Me, could you stop getting in your
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  Speaker 2: own damn way, Stop making life difficult for others who
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  Speaker 2: are trying to be supportive of your policies.
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  Speaker 1: And he does that, and he's done that his entire.
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  Speaker 2: Career, and he doesn't get it, he doesn't know it,
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  Speaker 2: and there people around him are still totally fine with it.
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  Speaker 1: They'll always be wrong. And that's that. You could be
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  Speaker 1: maga all you want. He gets in his own way.
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  Speaker 2: In the first term, we talked extensively about self inflicted wounds.
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  Speaker 1: It's all on the record. It still exists. He's still
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  Speaker 1: doing it.
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  Speaker 2: For all of the good qualities, there are some things
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  Speaker 2: in which the president is just ridiculous. He will not learn. Oh, Tony,
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  Speaker 2: how dare you? He's so smart? It's all five D chests.
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  Speaker 2: Some of it's just dopey, that's all. It's just dopey,
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  Speaker 2: and it hurts him, and it hurts Republicans trying to
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  Speaker 2: win midterms.
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  Speaker 1: It hurts those.
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  Speaker 2: Of us who are trying to engage policy conversations, because
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  Speaker 2: now I'm talking about this, the man's a human starting gun.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great line from the West Wing, and here
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  Speaker 1: it is. So what does he do?
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  Speaker 2: He puts out another one where he's being embraced by Jesus. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: all right, fine, but that story is not the pope
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  Speaker 2: story where the Pope picked a fight with him.
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  Speaker 1: The Pope is not above some kind of discussion.
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  Speaker 2: So why is the governor of Kentucky, Andy Basheer, acting
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  Speaker 2: like he is?
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  Speaker 3: Ed?
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  Speaker 2: There are a number of people in your community who
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  Speaker 2: are both Catholics, proud Catholics also have been proud Trump supporters.
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  Speaker 2: What is this about?
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  Speaker 1: There are no politics in this.
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump is doing whatever he wants, whenever he wants,
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  Speaker 3: and he will insult or attack anyone. I mean, look
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  Speaker 3: at Marco Rubio calling him little Marco. Apparently Marco Rubio's
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  Speaker 3: forgotten that. Look at Ted Cruz standing up for him
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  Speaker 3: at different times when he attacked his wife and suggested
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  Speaker 3: his death was in the JFK assassination.
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  Speaker 2: Now, before we go on, I always argued that some
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  Speaker 2: of the things Trump said, especially about Ted Cruz, were weird, awkward, wrong,
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  Speaker 2: and I was surprised that Ted Cruz didn't push back
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  Speaker 2: more forcefully. I always was calling Marco little Marco. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was the election, and this is now. You call everybody,
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  Speaker 2: your party calls everybody they disagree with a Nazi. And
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  Speaker 2: now you, Andy Basheer, the governor of Kentucky, are going
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  Speaker 2: to discuss name calling is a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: You got to discuss it all the way around, which
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  Speaker 2: would be completely fine.
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  Speaker 1: I'd agree with you. Lots of people listening would agree
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  Speaker 1: with you. It's only this, It's only this.
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  Speaker 2: Subject, Oh Andrew, Andrew.
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  Speaker 3: And now this, I mean Donald Trump puts himself above everyone,
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  Speaker 3: including the Pope and in his mind probably God. But
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  Speaker 3: think about this. Go back to a statement that didn't
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  Speaker 3: get a lot of attention. He was asked on Air
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  Speaker 3: Force one at one point whether he thought there was
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  Speaker 3: any way he was going to heaven, and he said
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  Speaker 3: no and didn't seem worried about it. There aren't politics
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  Speaker 3: in this, there's only Donald Trump leading with meanness and cruelty,
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  Speaker 3: and then a whole bunch of Republicans too cowardly to say, wait,
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  Speaker 3: mister president, don't insult the Pope. I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I think Republicans are saying that all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: Cowardly is knowing that Eric Swawell was involved allegedly in
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  Speaker 2: rapes and sexual assaults, and the Democratic Party saying, gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I hope he becomes governor. That's cowardly. The Pope started
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  Speaker 2: the fight. Was it before or after the meeting with
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  Speaker 2: David Oxerod. I don't know the Pope started this. Trump responded,
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  Speaker 2: it should have been dropped right there. You're the ones
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep the story going as if you're the
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  Speaker 2: ones defending Catholics.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think even Catholics by that. I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: This is just your new talking point of the day,
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  Speaker 2: the same Democrat Catholics who are okay with abortion.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not Catholic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure how Catholics square the circle on
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  Speaker 2: this one. But I've got five microphones and no waiting.
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  Speaker 1: You tell me