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Episode 1_ What is SPIRE · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, shall we start in a prayer? Absolutely,
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  Nick you.
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  Speaker 2: All right, great father Son, Holy Spirits, Lord, we pray
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  that this time spit together with us three men, maybe eventful,
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  insightful and full of blurting. And we offer this time
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  for your Holy Mother, Amen, Father, So Holy Spirits.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So as it started, then, okay, welcome, welcome everybody.
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  Thank you for tuning in. It's been a pleasure, or
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  it's going to be a pleasure. We'll say it's been
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  at the ends pleasure. So basically what we're doing, there's
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  a thing called spire aspires a memory eight. It's this
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  is the shortened introversion, so it's s p i r E. Spiritual, physical, intellectual, relational, evangelical. Basically,
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  what that means is that you can use spire or
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  the acronym spire the memory aid as a daily plan
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  for life. So you can make a list and you say, okay,
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  spire something spiritual. What can I do today that's spiritual?
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  When you do that at the end of your day
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  or after you do it, cross it off.
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  Speaker 1: Physical? What can I do? Physical?
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  Speaker 3: Run a mile, cross it off, intellectual, read ten minutes,
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  cross it off, relational, have a conversation with your grandma.
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  Speaker 1: Cross it off evangelical.
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  Speaker 3: Share the faith, share your ideas, do the corporal works
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  of mercy, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: Evangelical.
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  Speaker 3: We'll kind of get into that and get more in
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  depth with how it all works. But basically, you do
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  something in each of those realms. It's like the main
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  thing of the day. It doesn't have to be super complicated.
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  Just an item off of each one of those will
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  assure that you have ensure that you have a balanced day.
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  So then really what we're here to do is talk
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  about that, talk about our experience using that being I'm
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  twenty two.
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  Speaker 4: N twenty two. I haven't about that almost twenty three.
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  Speaker 5: Give you a month, okay, Davis John Thomas, I'm a
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  day younger, but.
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  Speaker 4: I want not sure.
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  Speaker 6: I'm twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: Song of Baby.
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  Speaker 3: Also, for anyone who doesn't know who we are, I'm
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  Fulton Mueller, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Nicholas, I'm Michael Dobbs. And I always thought your name
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  has pronounced Miller.
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  Speaker 3: I always it goes back and forth because it's like,
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  do you want to have to pronounce Muler every time?
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  It's like ful Miller. It's like that's way easier than
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  Fulton Mueller. But it's like back in the day my
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  family used to be Mueller's.
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  Speaker 4: I guess it makes me think of Catholic.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I think need to be thinking about.
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  Speaker 3: So basically that's what we're here to do. So what
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  today is going to be is sort of are each
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  of our takes on why we want to make a podcast,
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  what we're here for, what we all think about life,
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  and kind of what we think we would bring a
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  value to the podcast, and kind of just the point
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  of why we're here. And then what's going to be
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  at the foundation of that is spire, which is our
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  goal is to sort of share this idea so that
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  people our age kind of have some foundational plan for
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  moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: And the main goal is for it all.
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  Speaker 3: To lead into and you don't have to be specifically
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  a Christian to do this, but it's to lead into evangelizing,
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  which is ultimately what we're here to do, which is
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  to share the love of Jesus and share the good
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  news that there is hope, redemption, love out there and
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  that it comes from the source of everything, and that
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  you can actually have a relationship with Him. So that's
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  why we're here. And then it's also just for the
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  sake of sharing each of our perspectives on whatever comes up.
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  Because any topic that has to do with Spire that
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  is important to us that we want to comment on
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  or share our thoughts on, that's what we're gonna do.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean just kind of what you said.
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  A secondly, I was like, most people, like if we
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  say guys, we're starting podcasts, are like, of course you are.
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  You're like a bunch of twenty one twenty two year
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  old guys. Like every twenty one twenty year old guy
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  wants to start a podcast. That's like what every guy
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  wants to do. But like that did cross my mind,
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  but like every single guy, the number of people I've
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  talked to are I'm just like, we have a good conversation.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, probably should start a podcast. There should be
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  a podcast.
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  Speaker 6: But the whole reason because I did cross my mind,
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  but like we have I think kind of a unique
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  perspective to bring. I think that that's kind of the
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  whole we'll get into, like why we want to do it,
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  but we're not just like trying to be another group
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  of dudes doing a podcast. Like if you want to
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  listen to Logan Paul, you can go do that, but
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  like this is we're not gonna be like definitely not.
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  But it's just we're trying to bring kind of a
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  unique perspective to it because we saw a void and
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  we want to fill that void.
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  Speaker 1: So how would you describe that void?
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  Speaker 6: That void? You know, I think that in twenty twenty three,
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  the you know, with social media being as prevalent, I
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  need to make sure I'm talking to the mic. With
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  social media being as prevalent as it is, I think
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  it's really easy to get a lot of negativity through
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  that kind of venue, I guess, and avenue not venue.
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  Really you have a lot of kind of like bad
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  examples of Christianity or even just living kind of a
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  good life, and you don't really see a lot of
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  positive examples coming from younger people. So I just like,
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  I feel like us as a group of dudes who
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  are and we're not perfect, definitely, But that's kind of
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  the purpose of this. Again, I keep on trying to
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  get into that, but we'll get in like a second,
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  Like we're trying to get better. At the end of
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  the day, even if we have zero listeners, we're gonna
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  be us through here helping each other. To try and
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  get better, and I think that that's just something that's
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  like if it was me on the outside looking in,
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  that's something that'd be really positive for me to see.
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  Is just like guys trying to help each other grow
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  in their faith, growing their relationship with Jesus and just
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  I think that it can be a really positive influence.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, interesting, Yeah, And for me, like you know,
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  I'm one of those guys, is just like I love
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  having conversations.
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  Speaker 4: I love talking with people and we get into some
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  really deep conversations.
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  Speaker 2: I've had great conversations over the years, especially with these
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  two guys, So like that was my first thoughts going
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  into this, But after talking with them and especially Fulton,
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  you know, with all this bio stuff, it makes me
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  really think, oh, there's more to it than just like
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  the intellectual pursuit of knowledge or how people look at things.
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  But there's all of these other aspects that like really
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  build into our lives. And that's something that I really
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  look forward to building up myself and we can all
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  build we can all build up together, and I think
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  that's going to be quite.
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  Speaker 4: A fun time.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly, it's kind of nice to just have people
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  come into my place.
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  Speaker 4: People here, I'll love you. Yeah, this is a better amount.
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  Speaker 3: If you turn this way, it's still catching the same
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  as if you turn that wayschology.
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  Speaker 6: Is in advance. We're still figuring out the technical thing.
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  We spent like an hour ahead of time, just like
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  setting this all up. The quality will continue to increase exponentially.
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  I promise, So this is not it's not gonna prompt
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  I shouldn't promise. I shouldn't promise things that I can't guarantee.
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  But we're gonna work to try and make it better
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  every time. So the bad quality here, you're just gonna
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  have to look past it for one episode, hopefully one.
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  Speaker 2: If it was up to me, this would probably be
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  like on iPhone microphone, that.
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  Speaker 6: Would not have been it kind of is.
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  Speaker 3: We got Michael audio engineers, Michael's.
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  Speaker 6: My what's what's the apple.
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  Speaker 1: That Steve?
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  Speaker 4: What you did?
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  Speaker 1: Bill Yates?
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  Speaker 6: That Microsoft Tim Cook? This video is shot on iPhone?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, anyway, probably, So you were saying that the
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  void that you see is the terrible examples, especially on
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  social media sort of the culture and then the social
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  media is like almost the magic looking glass into the
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  culture in a sense, and really what you get is
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  not a lot of real world, relatable people our age
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  that are actually trying to do the right thing without
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  being weird.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like, I think social media is a
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  microcosm of like bigger problems that we have. Like we're
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  not just gonna be like social media bad. Everything else
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  that is not social is good. But that's what you said.
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  It is like trying to provide a look into like
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  the people's real lives and like what's actually.
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  Speaker 4: Going on, like people trying to do the right thing
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  in real life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's really interesting because so many there's
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  so many podcasts where people are like social media is
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  horrible and terrible, you should never be on it, and
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  like and I won't listen to you if I'm not
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  on it. But like the whole idea is like as
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  an entity, it's not in itself bad, it's just misused
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  so much and so problematic in that way that it's
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  just like the best way to go about it is
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  to try to understand like what it truly is and
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  try to get at what people actually want and need
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  as opposed to what gets the most clicks or views.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, So how do you what do you view as
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  the void? What are you try? What are you here for?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: The void? Uh? Well, I, as Michael was saying.
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  Speaker 6: With wait, let's pause for a second. I think because
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  we keep on kind of like hnting at this, we
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  should just like get into like why do we each
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  want to do it? Because I think if we're saying
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  like this is the void and then like what's the void?
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  Like that always is going to lead back to like
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  why do you want to do it?
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  Speaker 4: So I feel like we should just get yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't want to do the podcast or
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  why do you want to fill the void?
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  Speaker 6: Well, because the podcast hopefully is because you want to
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  feel avoid but like why do you the podcast?
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  Speaker 1: Probably feel the void in yourself.
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  Speaker 6: But there's gonna be like more to that, so it's
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  not just gonna be like there's a void, I won't
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  feel it. It's like there might be other reasons that
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  you want to. Yeah, so you can go first because
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  I cut you off.
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  Speaker 4: But it's all good. H very easily.
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  Speaker 2: You see it on YouTube, and it mostly those are
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  social media's but like I see YouTube a lot.
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  Speaker 4: It's very addicting to watch, but.
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  Speaker 2: You just see all sorts of different things, and especially
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  with these shorts, a lot of these quick, you know,
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  fake things. So many people are just trying to like
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  make something up, to try to make it fun and interesting,
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  so more people watch that they can get views, so
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  they can get money, so they can get popularity. And
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  like some of the videos I see, they're just like sad.
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  It's just like people look like lifeless husks, not really
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  doing anything. And it's just like, I think that if
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  we can instill like a sense of joy and like
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  to bring entertainment in a way that is real and sincere,
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  that I think that, you know, will one make me
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  feel sincerity and joy in that way, but hopefully so
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  that people can see examples of what joyful sincerity is
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  as opposed to the you know, fake creation of all
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  these different YouTube avenues.
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  Speaker 1: That's me see, Okay, that's good. Cool. I think mine is.
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  Speaker 3: I think the void that I see is definitely a
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  culture that has completely lost God. And it's not like
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  you guys have lost God, you've given God away, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, literally I think we lost him.
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  Speaker 3: We're like got completely consumed with all the stuff that's
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  super entertaining, totally eye catching, super addicting, and it's like
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  everything around us is hyper entertaining, and so it's really
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  difficult too. And then not only that, but it's all
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  so removed of innocence, and I feel like there needs
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  to be more people that know how to navigate and
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  can help communicate how to navigate between the world and
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  the people that are sort of looking or lost or
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  just different from you, but without isolating them or isolating yourself,
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  but really finding.
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  Speaker 1: A way to love every person.
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  Speaker 3: Without losing your own soul I think, but and I
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  mean that in the sense of losing your own identity,
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  your own self worth, that kind of thing, as well
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  as morally losing your soul and just sort of giving
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  into your own passions desires and letting those rule you
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  instead of seeing that there's a way that those can
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  be subjected to something.
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  Speaker 1: Much higher and much more real.
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  Speaker 3: And so then my goal with this is just to
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  be a voice of a person saying like, I am
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  experiencing the exact same thing as you, and it sucks
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  in a lot of ways, but it's also there is
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  a lot of hope and a lot of good things.
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  But it's not just wishful thinking. And I'm not here
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  to sell anything. I'm just here to basically talk because
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  I don't I like talking all talking the conversation would
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  be fun with people that like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Know, so that's why I'm here.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I kind of already said like why
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  I feel like the void is but like I completely
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  agree with both of those, and then like why I
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  want to do it? I would say it's a lot
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  of the same reasons that you guys both said, But
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  then also like and can I like tell the story
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  of like what like how Okay? So, like probably three
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  weeks ago, I was like really kind of in this
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  place of like, okay, God, like what do you want
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  me to be doing in this moment? Because I started
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  to really think about like whether it's you know, the
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  end of the world or I'd die in car crash tomorrow.
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  If you're standing there before God and He's like, why
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  should I let you in? Is it gonna be I
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  followed the rules or is it gonna Because I was
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  doing everything in my power to try and advance the King.
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  Was I trying to share the gospel with people? Was
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  I trying to not just like be good enough, but
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  try and like be as good as I could possibly be.
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  I was kind of like looking at where I was
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  at and I was like, I feel like I'm you know,
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  I'm trying my best to follow the rules, but then
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  like I don't. I didn't know if there was like
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  much beyond that, And like I think when we were
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  on the FaceTime, I was like I kind of said,
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  like this could have We could do one hundred episodes
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  and one person could be moved by one hundred episodes
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  and that would make it all worth it. So just
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  like for me, it was like my desire to do
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  it was really coming from a place of like there's
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  a void, but like what am I doing personally to
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  fill it? Like not is anybody doing it? Because at
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  the end of the day, like whether or not somebody
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  else's that might be great and it might move me,
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  But what am I personally doing to kind of try
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  and fill that void? So like, yeah, I think that's
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  kind of my perspective. But then, like as I was
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  praying about this, so I spent probably like a week
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  praying about it, and then a mass one day, I
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  was just like feeling really moved by it, and I
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  was just like, Okay, I really feel this really strong
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  calling to do it or do something. I don't really
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  know what that thing was just like I want to
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  do something. I have just up just like desire to
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  do something. And I was in Mass and I was
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  just like, you know, I like talking a lot. He
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  we all like talking, Like, let's be real, that's kind
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  why we're all here.
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  Speaker 4: I love talking.
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  Speaker 6: But like I was like, I like talking and I
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  like talking about deep, meaningful stuff, and what better way
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  is there to do that than to start podcast? But again,
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  like I said, it's not just another just like random
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  dude podcast. And I was just so I was like,
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  that would be kind of cool, but I don't want
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  to do it by myself. And so I was like,
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  who would be good to do this with? And I
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  thought about a lot of people, and I was just like,
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  Fulton and Nick seemed like they would be really fun
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  to do this with. And then I like, as soon
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  as I got home from Mass, I like got my
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  phone and I was just I texted Nick and Fulton.
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  I was like, guys, I like, I really want to
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  do this podcast. And then Nick respund. It is like
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  I was literally already talking to Fulton about doing this
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  kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: So like did you not already know that?
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  Speaker 6: Like that's what It's crazy, that's interesting because like I know,
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  I like at points in the past I kind of
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  like talk to other people and like random people just
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  be like, oh, it's fun, it would be fun to
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  start podcasting. Everybody thinks that. And then like I've had
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  good conversations with you and you and like just you
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  guys came to mind and I texted you and You're like, oh,
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  are you talking about that? And I was just like
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  that's so crazy. But yeah, And as soon as you
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  said that, I was just like, God, if you're trying
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  to give me a sign through this, it's working, because
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  like this is it was like just some serious conviction,
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  just like I have to do this now.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, sweet, Okay, Well, so here we are.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, before we keep going, do you.
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  Speaker 4: Have a phone or something, because we don't lose track
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  of time.
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  Speaker 6: We have time.
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  Speaker 4: So we are in in Where are we in?
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  Speaker 3: Saint Louis Neil wash you We're near Washington Forest Park,
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  that big place.
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  Speaker 6: Let's not give exact details address.
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  Speaker 3: So we're in what I say downtown's not quite downttown.
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  Speaker 4: Outside of downtown, we can call it downtown.
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  Speaker 6: Downtown's compared to the suburbs we heard uptown.
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  Speaker 3: We were downtown oh, okay, sweet, we are in downtown
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  Saint Louis. We are at Nick's dinner table, and we
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  are now going to move into the park where we
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  talk about spire real quick and what that's done for each.
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  Speaker 1: Of our lives. So you started looking for do you
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  want to start?
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  Speaker 3: Because you have the longest Okay, So basically the way
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  that I've been trying to live my life is there's
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  way too many things going on all the time in
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  my head and around me and the things that I
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  see online or with people, whatever it is. There's so
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  many things and it's super difficult to keep track of,
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  and not only that, it's super difficult to find silence
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  and peace and quiet enough to like figure out where
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  I should go. So what this is so helpful with
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  is I kind of I've heard other people say it,
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  but in my defense, before I heard other people say it,
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  I had this mantra that was like, do the next
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  best thing. At least I mean, I didn't say at least,
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  it's like do the next best thing, but at least
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  do the next best thing.
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  Speaker 1: That was kind of what I was.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to stick with because I didn't go to college,
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  and so.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's like Okay, well what are you gonna do?
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  It's like I didn't really want to work a job.
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  Speaker 4: It's like I should do that, and it's like should
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  I go do this?
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  Speaker 3: Should I go do that? How am I called to whatever?
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  And so then the plan really makes it easy to
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  It keeps it the destop reboarding.
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  Speaker 4: Not technical difficulty, just turned off. Okay, so.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: You have to restart renew the last twenty five minutes
• 20:03
  of Brisbane.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: So it what it does is it really helps keep
• 20:07
  everything simple, which is really important. So then I get
• 20:12
  overwhelmed with goals and feeling like I'm not accomplishing anything
• 20:15
  because I'm not grinding twenty four to seven or not
• 20:17
  doing all these things and not being super disciplined all
• 20:19
  the time. And it's so I'm just not the person
• 20:21
  that sets a goal and it's like there's a direction
• 20:24
  for me to go, and it's more of like, oh
• 20:26
  my gosh, now I have to go do that, and
• 20:27
  it's like stressful and all this stuff. I'm more of
• 20:30
  like kind of spontaneous and then if something catches my interest,
• 20:33
  I'll go down that route. And then so for my personality,
• 20:36
  it fits and I'm trying to get more disciplined. Of
• 20:39
  course it helps with that, but it fits because I
• 20:43
  can I can know that I'm at least growing closer
• 20:46
  to the person that God wants me to be, and
• 20:48
  that I that I was made to be, and that
• 20:54
  above all else is the most important thing to me,
• 20:56
  I think, because I can't really get behind like I'm
• 20:59
  going to work until I get this and then working
• 21:02
  because like I just for I cannot care about it
• 21:05
  like enough.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: To really really get behind it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: But then if I know at least I'm becoming a
• 21:09
  better person, so wherever I end up, it'll hopefully go, well,
• 21:14
  this is kind of what it does. So like what
• 21:16
  that looks like in my life is if I wake
• 21:20
  up and there's either a note card or something on
• 21:23
  my phone. My notes, basically I will write out S
• 21:29
  P I R E. And then I won't spell out spiritual, physical, intellectual.
• 21:34
  I've got it, memorize. There's a shirt and everything. It's
• 21:36
  pretty quick to get. But so I'll write that out
• 21:38
  and then I basically and so I'll basically write out
• 21:49
  what I want to do spiritual, which is awfully very simplistic.
• 21:53
  It would be thirty minutes in silence, is like the
• 21:57
  main goal and then rosary, and then I would move
• 22:01
  to physical, and for physical I would do I've I've
• 22:07
  really been slacking with the physical, I would do something
• 22:11
  like twenty pull ups at least throughout the day, well
• 22:15
  like you know, throughout.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: The day, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: And then and then I would move to intellectual, which
• 22:24
  would be like read ten minutes or listen to a podcast,
• 22:26
  which at work, at the place that I work, I
• 22:28
  can listen to podcasts really easily, so that's like my
• 22:31
  main way of consuming information. So I will listen to podcasts.
• 22:37
  And then relational, it's kind of like either I'll make
• 22:43
  I try to look at it, like what's something extra
• 22:46
  I can do to build relationships with people, which is
• 22:51
  like specific conversations or setting time apart or doing something
• 22:54
  nice or making sure I have nothing else on my
• 22:57
  mind for like family dinner or something. Or it's like
• 23:00
  I'll text an old friend and I'll be like, hey,
• 23:02
  let's go up.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: How you doing.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: It's whatever will kind of craft more relationships and keep
• 23:08
  you in touch with people, especially the people that you're
• 23:11
  like really close with. And then so it'll be like
• 23:14
  family dinner for me, or I'll text somebody or if
• 23:18
  I've had.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: A conversation at work.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I'll count that like a personal conversation whatever, whatever, And
• 23:24
  then evangelical this one is sort of this is I
• 23:27
  think the one that would need the most unpacking for
• 23:29
  how we actually do it, because when you when you
• 23:31
  say like, oh, I'm going to go evangelize, it's kind
• 23:33
  of like, I mean, what do you guys think.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Of when you I always think of the one guy was.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Like like that's the or like who's Joel Olsting or
• 23:50
  whatever where it's like evangelizing is like God hates you,
• 23:54
  turn your life around, You're gonna burn in hell, and
• 23:57
  like it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: The other day there was this guy he was standing
• 24:00
  outside of the student center and he just like has
• 24:03
  a sign and it's just like, uh, you know buyers,
• 24:09
  these fornicators ball and lists off all these things and
• 24:12
  it's just like hell awaits at the bottom. I was
• 24:15
  just like, I don't think that you're preaching like the
• 24:17
  love of God right now. I feel like this is
• 24:19
  not the most effective way to communicate that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: But that's like what so many people do is like evangelization.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: It's just like.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Telling you that you're gonna go to hell.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I know it's it's really in a
• 24:30
  bad rap. But what so my basically where this idea
• 24:34
  came from is my dad is a director of religious
• 24:37
  education and so he teaches RCIA, which is brings people
• 24:41
  into the Catholic faith, and his whole mo is he
• 24:46
  likes using memory aids for teaching and memorizing things, and
• 24:51
  so Spire was inspired by a couple other memory aids
• 24:55
  and other people like Matthew Kelly and whatever. Matthew Kelly
• 24:58
  has pies physical, intellectual, emotional, spiritual. But what Spire does
• 25:04
  is sort of reorganize, It gives it a little bit
• 25:07
  of a cooler name, and then it includes evangelical and
• 25:15
  that's really the main kicker, because what evangelizing really is
• 25:19
  is just bringing God's love to other people, and whether
• 25:23
  that be by sharing the gospel message specifically, or acts
• 25:26
  of service or loving friendships, relationships, but something that.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: We've got, we'll have.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Me and my dad have made a couple of podcasts
• 25:36
  where he's talked more about it, like how he views
• 25:39
  what the evangelical type side is.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And so the main push is that the.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Evangelizing is the corporal works of mercy, which are bury
• 25:49
  the dead, feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty shelter,
• 25:53
  the homeless visit, the imprisoned clothe, the naked comfort, the
• 26:02
  sorrowful catholic.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: You don't know of them. This seven right, whatever it is,
• 26:14
  but it's basically.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: It's basically just being a good human being with the
• 26:20
  intention of going with Jesus into all of those places.
• 26:24
  And so when when I do spiritual right, the first
• 26:29
  thing I need to do is like map out my
• 26:31
  relationship with God and guard my interior life and build that,
• 26:34
  because if I don't have God's love, I've got no
• 26:36
  love to give. I'm just going to be after things
• 26:38
  for myself. So then after you craft that, a great
• 26:42
  next step would be physical. It's like, how am I
• 26:45
  exercising or moving my body or being in the world
• 26:48
  and active that I can give as a gift to
• 26:50
  other people, or just maintain discipline whatever that is. Intellectual,
• 26:56
  it's knowing things, learning about things, reading things, sharpening your mind,
• 27:00
  and relational. Everything's built on relationships. Everything that you do
• 27:05
  in life that really matters is going to be in
• 27:08
  regards to a relationship with somebody.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: So that's a huge focus.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: But what it should be is all of that flows
• 27:14
  into actually evangelizing, so actually going and using those things
• 27:19
  to strengthen yourself to be in a position to actually
• 27:22
  share it all. And so that's kind of what the
• 27:26
  goal is every day, and that can look like anything.
• 27:29
  So like my example is just in my life because
• 27:32
  I work at a warehouse, I'm twenty two, still have
• 27:34
  at home, and so it's going to be different for
• 27:38
  every person, especially if you have a different religion or
• 27:41
  different faith. But the point is that these different aspects
• 27:45
  of life, it's like kind of like human life. And
• 27:47
  so then if you are in each of those areas
• 27:50
  doing something every day, you will be growing. And that's
• 27:54
  kind of like what the what the goal is just
• 27:57
  to have a more fulfilling life that's not so empty, meaningless, selfish,
• 28:01
  self absorbed, blind, lost, depressed, anxious, all of that. It's
• 28:06
  like this is supposed to be something that you can
• 28:08
  sort of cling onto that points you upwards and then
• 28:12
  you enjoy church aspire. So that's been my experience with
• 28:16
  it recently.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: With the jokes you said a second ago, you said,
• 28:23
  like inspire, we do something.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: With that has so he goes, So you what was it?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: It's like spiritual inspire, physical perspire, intellectual, conspire or something
• 28:42
  like that, and then eventually it was evangelical Expire, which
• 28:46
  is to die.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: For others, there's like a hole. He's got a whole thing.
• 28:49
  It'll be on a website at some point.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so for me, you know, I'm not really
• 28:57
  want to do the whole memory AIDS thing.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: That's never really.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Worked out for me in my schooling, so I'm like,
• 29:01
  why would it ever work out for anything else.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: You've also just like super smart, so you don't like
• 29:08
  some of us are on like I just physicist.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Remember differently than like you know, strict memories. But like.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You know, after talking to Fulton and all this stuff
• 29:19
  about about Spire, it's made me think the past couple
• 29:21
  of weeks about like what I've been doing my day
• 29:23
  to day.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's like spirituality is like what's my prayer life? Like
• 29:28
  what's my relationship with God?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: In that way? And I see all the like ups
• 29:33
  and downs of it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: It's like I have a lot of habitual prayers that
• 29:37
  I say, but it's like do I actually pray them
• 29:40
  or do I just save them?
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Because that's what I gotta do, is what I gotta do.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Wake up in the morning, save in morning prayers three
• 29:47
  minutes later, wait was say asleep for that? I don't know,
• 29:51
  but it's like there's a lot to unpack there, so
• 29:53
  I'm not going to get in depth there. For physicals, like,
• 29:57
  I've never been an inactive person, but like do I
• 29:59
  try to keep myself in good shape, not just to
• 30:03
  be like look good or feel good in that way,
• 30:06
  but just like as well as I'm saying, with all
• 30:08
  of the like discipline involved, like we're called to protect
• 30:12
  and care for the world, and we can't do that
• 30:14
  if we don't care for ourselves. So it's like those
• 30:17
  first two aspects of spirituality and physicality is to care
• 30:20
  for yourself in that order of first your soul than
• 30:24
  your body. But it's like you can't help others if
• 30:26
  you have nothing foundational. The next one is I, which
• 30:31
  is intellectual. I love reading books. I'm in graduate school
• 30:36
  and so it's like that's something that I do almost
• 30:39
  as my like job, some form of intellectual but not
• 30:45
  just in the like sciences, but also I'm a very
• 30:48
  like philosophical person, so I love like learning philosophy or
• 30:51
  talking to people about that type of stuff. So it's
• 30:53
  like that's something where I'm like, got that down, Probably not,
• 30:56
  but I'm doing something about that, at least.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Relational. I'll skip that because that's the hardest one for me.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: That's hard something this is about growth.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Relations are like really hard.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: It's a very difficult thing for me because I especially
• 31:19
  like when I was younger, I was much more beset
• 31:22
  by insecurities and being afraid that no one liked me
• 31:27
  or you know, it's like I had amazing friends, but
• 31:30
  the problem with having amazing friends is that they're really
• 31:33
  good people and they would act nice to someone they
• 31:35
  don't like. So that makes me thinks, like, oh am
• 31:39
  I like do they not like me? And they're just
• 31:41
  doing it because they're actually like really good people. Like no,
• 31:43
  I mean, yes, they're really good people. But like I
• 31:45
  had to get through a lot to understand that people
• 31:48
  actually enjoy being around me. But through the like foundation
• 31:52
  of what I had through my childhood and young adult life.
• 31:56
  It's just like now it's a lot harder for me too.
• 31:58
  It's not instinctual for me to pursue relationship with people.
• 32:03
  Like when I'm with someone, things happen and it's fine,
• 32:06
  it's good. Once I like step back and go back home.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: For the day.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It's like I do not know how to pursue relation
• 32:13
  beyond that. So that's why it's hard for me, and
• 32:17
  that's what I want to work on most some people
• 32:20
  have different weaknesses.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: That's one of my big ones.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: And for evangelical evangelization, all those things, like as Fulton
• 32:30
  was saying, there's many different ways of doing it. It's
• 32:31
  not just like standing on the street corner proclaiming the gospel.
• 32:36
  It's like you proclaim the Gospel through your daily life.
• 32:40
  And so stuff that I've been doing recently is like
• 32:42
  there's some like Bible studies I'm in or other discussion
• 32:45
  type settings where I can go and just like listen
• 32:48
  to people. That's part of evangelizing, listen to them, understand them,
• 32:52
  and also to just share what I think and who
• 32:54
  I am. And in that way, it's just like we
• 32:57
  all grow closer together and we all learn and enjoy it.
• 33:01
  And then there's one aspect of evangelization, which is it
• 33:04
  is not necessary for evangelization to be towards someone else.
• 33:09
  You can evangelize yourself. You know, evangelizing is bringing the
• 33:13
  love of God to this world, right, So it's like
• 33:15
  you can evangelize to others, but you can also evangelize
• 33:18
  to yourself and all of these other things which build
• 33:20
  upon it. You know, you can build up yourself. But
• 33:22
  it's like you can bring the love of God into
• 33:24
  yourself through all of these different avenues. And so even
• 33:26
  such things like having a discussion with yourself, which is
• 33:31
  a normal thing that some people do, I know, to
• 33:33
  it's not weird.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Having a discussion of yourself is just like.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: Sorry, I don't do this, but not like with your hands,
• 33:44
  but you just like in the car, you're just like,
• 33:46
  how are you doing to that? Michael, Just like not
• 33:49
  like that exactly, but you just like you can talk
• 33:51
  to yourself. It's not it's not always weird. Sometimes it is.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: It's not always weird, but.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Just like to evangelize the self. And so the past
• 34:00
  couple of weeks I've noticed more like of the evangelization
• 34:03
  of the like little ways you just share who you
• 34:05
  are and what Christ means to you.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: And it doesn't have to be saying have you heard
• 34:12
  the work think of I don't know.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: What this is.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: Do you have time for Jesus Christ, your Lord and
• 34:16
  Savior or something like that.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: It's like it doesn't have to be that way. Now
• 34:20
  there are people who are called to do it that way,
• 34:22
  and that's amazing. It's probably a lot more impactful if
• 34:25
  it's done rightly. But like, what's truly important in this world?
• 34:29
  We are not all called to be like that. If
• 34:32
  everyone was called to knock on the doors proclaiming the gospel,
• 34:34
  then they'd be knocking on empty houses.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: And nothing would happen.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: That's true.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: But through living a life of love and to have
• 34:44
  someone look at you and be like, what do you have?
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Like you are special? I want what you have and
• 34:51
  I'll tell you what we got. If you look at me.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: That way, I'll tell you what we've got. We have
• 34:58
  the LEAs.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: And the meat is the Eucharist.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: It's bread, but it's not it's not that way.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: It's huge.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: It is meat.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: I did not see that the company, but look at
• 35:16
  the way the Lord that inspired that was that was
• 35:19
  inspired that was That was brilliant.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Wow, I really.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I really like the emphasis on evangelizing is not like
• 35:32
  there's an aspect to it that's like, hey, here's the
• 35:34
  gospel message and have you heard about Jesus? Because there
• 35:38
  I've got a friend who owns his own tree cutting business,
• 35:43
  and so he hires guys that are like basically laborers,
• 35:47
  and he's like, they've never even heard of God. Then
• 35:50
  they're like adults, which is just a weird you know,
• 35:53
  It's like they have no idea, there's no more conception
• 35:55
  because it's it's kept out of everything, and.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: So there's an ass to that that is important.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: But I think what I've learned is that people will
• 36:05
  never wait the What there's a saying for that. It's
• 36:08
  people don't care what you think until they think till
• 36:11
  they people don't.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Care what you know until they know that you care.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: So it's it's having a relationship with somebody which is
• 36:18
  just a basic human relationship where you're not judging them
• 36:22
  or condemning them, but just being with them and being
• 36:26
  interested in who they are. Because I think the thing
• 36:29
  that people want the most in the world is to
• 36:31
  be seen and to be loved for like who they are,
• 36:35
  beyond even what they present to you. And like, I
• 36:38
  think to be able to do that for people and
• 36:41
  be with strangers or be with friends even and see
• 36:43
  them for who they are and love them there in
• 36:46
  those places, that is that's really evangelizing. Did I say
• 36:53
  how I forget where I was going with that. But
• 36:55
  it's that to me is like what actually evangelizing is.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think I feel like it? That's
• 37:00
  just not really how we were.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I wasn't really raised to think of evangelizing that way.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with that, And I like, going last
• 37:10
  kind of sucks because you guys have already said like basically.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Everything that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: There are a couple of things you said that I
• 37:16
  really want to hit so like spiritual, like you said,
• 37:22
  I'm actually praying the prayers or am I just saying them?
• 37:25
  That you said that, and that honestly was one of
• 37:28
  the things I was like thinking about, Like I said,
• 37:31
  the whole thing about, like am I going out of
• 37:33
  my way to like do more than I need to
• 37:35
  be doing? Because like you can just like the bar
• 37:39
  isn't like most people think like the bar is like here,
• 37:42
  but like regardless of where the bar is, your bar
• 37:45
  should be here. You should be trying to go above
• 37:47
  and beyond and going above and beyond for you might
• 37:51
  not be going out and knocking on people's doors and
• 37:53
  sharing gospel with them. It might be praying the prayers
• 37:58
  because it's so easy. I feel like and this. You know,
• 38:02
  maybe this is gonna be controversial album. Here's my first
• 38:05
  hot taste. I think with Catholics especially, it's really easy
• 38:10
  to like you're saying the Rosary, you say ten hil
• 38:12
  marys in a row, and it's really easy to kind
• 38:15
  of just like get lost in it and just be
• 38:17
  like her or just like during it, or I can't
• 38:22
  fall asleep during That's a whole nother thing. Really, if
• 38:25
  I start it, I need to finish it. It's like
• 38:28
  a mental thing. But like it's really easy to just
• 38:30
  like say it and you're just.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Like, oh my gosh, I've got nine more.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: Just like I've got nine more. For the first decades,
• 38:37
  you just like you have to push yourself through it.
• 38:38
  So like having a high bar for you might not
• 38:42
  be going out and doing all that stuff. It might
• 38:43
  be just making sure that you're intentional about the prayers
• 38:48
  you're saying. So like that and when you said that,
• 38:50
  remind me like that's one of the big things that
• 38:52
  I was thinking about. But then obviously all the other
• 38:56
  spiritual stuff you guys said as well. Second physical for me,
• 39:01
  so I hurt my UCL so I can't like work
• 39:04
  out or anything. But even just little things like trying
• 39:09
  to make sure I'm drinking water instead of just like
• 39:11
  waking up and you slam an energy drink and you know,
• 39:13
  you might have a peanut butter sandwich and you just
• 39:15
  like going through day. Like I've noticed that when I'm drinking,
• 39:20
  like I got this big water bottle, I'm just like,
• 39:22
  if I drink that whole thing, I'm like way happier.
• 39:27
  I'm just like if I like happiness. It's crazy when
• 39:31
  you think about it, Like God gave us everything on
• 39:34
  this earth that we need to be happy. We don't
• 39:35
  need all this like processed stuff. It's good sometimes, but
• 39:38
  like if I just drink, you know, a gallon of water,
• 39:42
  I'm way happier and I feel physically way better. I
• 39:45
  don't get all jittery because I just had a bang
• 39:48
  when I woke up and then like didn't eat anything
• 39:50
  all day, so like I haven't been able to do
• 39:54
  like because I'm hurt. I can't do the physical physical stuff.
• 39:56
  But even just like little things, it keeps.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: On scaring that the screen is off but was still recording.
• 40:03
  That's probably why it's moving. Is it a sign that
• 40:05
  it's going to go to sleep?
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Though, I'll tell you to take it, don't break it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: We are experiencing some technically never mind it's plugged in.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: That's so weird. It usually never does that.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Uh, I can't do like physical physical stuff, but even
• 40:25
  just little things when you take it, you know, the
• 40:28
  classic things like your body is a temple, you should
• 40:30
  treat it like it is. But like even just little
• 40:32
  things like making sure you drink enough water, like that's
• 40:34
  been the biggest thing. Look, drink all of it already. Yeah,
• 40:41
  So that's physical.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Thing that I've been like focusing that is really good
• 40:45
  is intellectual.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: So I'm a pizza delivery driver and I drive for hours,
• 40:53
  like multiple nights a week. I get tired of listening
• 40:57
  to the same songs over and over again. So like
• 40:59
  for me, it's been uh, like my favorite class in
• 41:03
  high school was mister Cobb, the apologetics class. I want
• 41:08
  to talk to mister Cobb on here something, mister Cobb,
• 41:11
  that would be my favorite experience ever. But it was
• 41:15
  the apologetics class. And I've been like, instead of listening
• 41:18
  to music, I'll like find a two hour long debate
• 41:24
  on the existence of God and I'll listen to that
• 41:27
  instead of and be like John Lennox and Richard Dawkins.
• 41:30
  I just listened to them come back and forth. It's fired.
• 41:34
  It's like I listened to Richard Dawkins. I'm like, dang,
• 41:36
  I've never thought about that before, Like what if that's
• 41:39
  And then John Lennox is just like, well, here's the
• 41:42
  way I see it, and I'm just like yeah, but
• 41:46
  like that's another thing. Is just like my favorite thing
• 41:51
  was always apologetics, and just like I never really went
• 41:54
  anywhere with it, but like now I'm trying to like
• 41:56
  kind of grow that and like learn more about it.
• 41:58
  And the more I learned about it, it's like the
• 42:01
  more I'm like, wow, like this is actually true, and
• 42:03
  there's like intellectual, like logical ways to kind of like
• 42:07
  get to this without you know, you can use this
• 42:11
  personal spiritual stuff, but like you can use your intellect
• 42:14
  to arrive at this destination. I was like, I got
• 42:18
  here way early. I got here like forty five minutes earlier,
• 42:22
  and I was just sitting in my car outside and again,
• 42:24
  John Lennox's amazing just today, yeah, because I I'm almost
• 42:30
  like twenty minutes away.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I have a class that I couldn't get to.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: Live it anyway. I was sitting in the car listening
• 42:36
  to Jordan Peterson John Lennox talk.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: About Jordan Peterson and John Lennox, I came out like today, Wow.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: It's like and I love listening conversations that I don't understand.
• 42:48
  It's like when Jordan Peterson talks, it's like I don't
• 42:51
  know what he's saying halftime, but like that's the good
• 42:53
  part of it. Is just like I'm pushing my intellect
• 42:57
  and like, so instead of just listening to this music
• 43:00
  over and over again, I'll listen to that kind of
• 43:02
  stuff because it really just kind of like pushes me
• 43:04
  and it makes me like ask questions that I've never
• 43:07
  really thought about. Interesting, it's the next one relational. I'm
• 43:12
  kind of like you. And also when you said like
• 43:16
  when you were younger, you were a lot more like
• 43:17
  close off and like we're always wanna like you're all
• 43:20
  the self esteems you're like two people like me. And
• 43:22
  it's like, I think that's why we got along so well,
• 43:24
  because like you would be hiding in the corner, but
• 43:27
  I was over there with you because I didn't want
• 43:28
  to be talking to anybody either.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Do you want to be alone together? Exactly?
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: What it was so like we're really similar always, so
• 43:34
  kind of everything you said with that is like I
• 43:36
  feel like I'm kind of naturally just like not like
• 43:40
  closed off. But I don't like talk about stuff like
• 43:43
  that very much, and so that's kind of a hard
• 43:46
  thing for me too. But like just little things, I'm
• 43:50
  still not good at it. In case my family watches this,
• 43:53
  you know, I'm not gonna sit here and be like
• 43:55
  I'm perfect and all my relationships are amazing, but like
• 43:59
  I'm just trying to do little things where it's like
• 44:01
  instead of like keeping yourself closed off, it's just like
• 44:05
  maybe you talk about something with this person, you show them,
• 44:08
  like you know, everybody's always saying like, oh I'm here
• 44:11
  for you, like actually kind of like acting on that
• 44:13
  and being like.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: What does that like actually practically look like?
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, like just for me. Just again, I'm still
• 44:20
  not like great going on my way to start conversations,
• 44:23
  but like if somebody tries to talk to me, just
• 44:25
  like instead of being like, oh.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool, and I'm just like coming back to
• 44:29
  whatever I was doing.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Just like trying to be more like involved in like
• 44:34
  they say something instead of just going to go that's cool,
• 44:36
  I like ask questions about it. I'm just trying to,
• 44:39
  like instead of because it's so easy for me to
• 44:42
  just like.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep on talking forever. I had a conversation, what.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: Time is it?
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a conversation with my mom and my
• 44:51
  little sister and we were talking, and then my sister
• 44:55
  was like, let's have a competition.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: We'll see who can be quiet the longest, and I
• 44:59
  was like, you know, I'm gonna win.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: I can. I could literally not talk for the rest
• 45:02
  of the that And it's not like I'm trying to
• 45:03
  be like closed off. It's just like that's naturally kind
• 45:06
  of how I am. So just like trying to if
• 45:09
  somebody tries to talk to me, just trying to talk back,
• 45:13
  like don't just like shut it down and just like
• 45:16
  move on with your life. Just like if they're showing interest,
• 45:20
  it's because they want to talk to you kind of thing.
• 45:22
  So just like putting in the extra effort, I guess,
• 45:25
  and then that all works back into the evangelical thing.
• 45:29
  And you guys kind of already covered all that. But
• 45:32
  one thing I do want to say is.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Like I think.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: You kind of said this, but just like to put
• 45:37
  it in a little bit like of a smaller thing,
• 45:39
  so I don't take up more time explaining you all again,
• 45:42
  you said, like it doesn't have to be outward. You
• 45:45
  can like evangelize yourself, but I think that even that
• 45:51
  ends up being like an like an hour kind of evangelization,
• 45:55
  because like, if you truly believe what you're saying, then
• 46:01
  it's gonna.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Show even if you don't say that loud, Like if.
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: You fully embrace the reality of God's love for you
• 46:10
  and your heart, you without saying a word, that's going
• 46:14
  to show to other people. So like just being you,
• 46:18
  fully embracing all that is gonna work wonders with other people.
• 46:23
  And it's just like somebody that might walk up to
• 46:25
  you and they're just like, you know, it made my day,
• 46:28
  Like how you did this thing. You didn't even think
• 46:29
  about it because it's just like how you are living
• 46:32
  your life, which is kind of that's a good way
• 46:34
  to get back to just like tying in all three
• 46:37
  of our things.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: It's like it's about the way you live your life.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: And that's kind of just what this is all about.
• 46:42
  I guess it's trying to help you live your life
• 46:44
  in that meaningful way that's gonna shine through and like.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Show itself to others.
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: Look at the way we just keep on tying.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: It's almost life can make sense.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: It's almost like that sometimes.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And I think a really cool thing is like like
• 46:58
  with three different people, Like, well, we're all like raised Catholic,
• 47:00
  we've had different lives and like we've done different things
• 47:03
  in our lives and we've split off and our ways
• 47:06
  of approaching what life is now. But like you might think, oh,
• 47:09
  you're just all raised Catholics, so you all have the
• 47:10
  same ideas and ways to think about it, Like, no,
• 47:12
  we're very completely different. You notice that just with this
• 47:14
  idea of a spire, with the five five, there's.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: Seven different way inspire.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, But like with these five different things, all of
• 47:27
  us were like focusing on different things. We don't like,
• 47:30
  where we struggle is different, and where we are strong
• 47:33
  is different, and how we approach things is different. And
• 47:35
  I think it's just really cool that we have these
• 47:36
  different like outlooks on life. Even though you might be like,
• 47:39
  but you're all Catholic and you all grew up Catholic,
• 47:43
  and it's like, do you actually have any experience Like yeah,
• 47:47
  just like even though we all did that it's like
• 47:48
  we're all unique and dignified enough to have these differences,
• 47:53
  and I think that's amazing.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I feel like there's this idea that
• 48:00
  it's like we're human beings. So it's like we've gone
• 48:03
  through and seen certain things, done certain things. We've all
• 48:08
  got very unique roads that we're on, and what we
• 48:13
  have in common just isn't like, oh, I'm a part.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Of this belief system, but it's like what.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: We have in common is we all identify as being
• 48:21
  with the body of Christ.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: And but but after that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: We are each very different people and so we'll have
• 48:30
  a lot of similarities.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: But it was interesting to see it's like, oh no,
• 48:33
  we all kind of have We're all going to.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Be approaching the same aims from totally different angles, but
• 48:42
  it's all going up.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: It's like a tripod.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: It's like that Star Wars thing that goes that's the
• 48:57
  death Star laser.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: But imagine it pointed out though, and it was like.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: It's just like that'th starlinzer and something over here.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: It's like a here and it's good, not the life star.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Star Wars brought to you by.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: That's so then the goal is basically we're going to
• 49:18
  go through s p i r E.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Right, s r E.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Don't forget it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Oh it's good.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Oh time.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I was, I guess we'll just go through
• 49:39
  the s p i r E as sort of our
• 49:42
  first episodes, basically talking about whatever comes up that has
• 49:46
  to do with our own experience, and then sort of
• 49:50
  things that we've learned or things of value that we
• 49:52
  think each other might like gain from, because I think
• 49:55
  while it's still a podcast, I think it's still important
• 49:58
  to remember like it is a conversation though, and so
• 50:02
  then we're going to just go through those, and then
• 50:04
  it kind of opens up to like whatever things are
• 50:07
  of interest to us and our perspective at this age
• 50:10
  are professionally uneducated opinions basically whatever we've got on our
• 50:15
  hearts and just sort of being honest and straight up
• 50:21
  about our journey through life with its ups and its
• 50:23
  downs and the mess that it is.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: But also like how we find beauty as regular people that.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Are just trying to like do the right thing and
• 50:33
  figure out what's going on, get through the world, navigate
• 50:36
  it all. Know that we're loved, love other people, and
• 50:39
  so that's my are, my are, that's.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: A lot in that life is a lot. Yeah, and
• 50:48
  it's better that way.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: If it was not a lot, we would get over
• 50:52
  it in like two days, and then we'd be bored
• 50:54
  out of our minds.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: There'd be no point in anything. At this point.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: There's a point at the top of a spire.
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: Also, it's not connected. It all comes back. Uh. So basically,
• 51:12
  we're gonna just go for that.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: That's gonna.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Five videos. No continue, sorry, do whatever.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: That's different.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know what if we're talking, I was saying
• 51:24
  we're going to go for that, and then I was
• 51:25
  just thinking, like, what's like a pun of popping out
• 51:28
  of the ground or you know, go for go for
• 51:33
  I don't know.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Did you get it? I was all right, never mind that.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: So so that's what we're going to try to do then.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Uh And in the next one we're gonna start with
• 51:44
  spiritual sort of.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I think I think a good focus of spiritual would
• 51:49
  be how to pray or how you pray the praying.
• 51:56
  So I think that that's what we'll do in the
• 51:57
  next one, and then we'll just kind of let it
• 51:59
  flow as we get Oh, do we have a website
• 52:02
  spire today dot com that'll have we're gonna be uploading
• 52:05
  this to YouTube and Spotify and all that, but it
• 52:09
  will also be on the website and then there's gonna
• 52:12
  be the goal is to have more resources on there
• 52:15
  on one spot and then there's like shirts and stuff.
• 52:18
  If you want to buy a shirt, it looks like
• 52:19
  this little thing and then yeah, that's I mean that's
• 52:25
  all that I got. Yeah, we can talk more about it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: I'm going to start on Instagram also, it'll be by
• 52:31
  the time this is on platforms, we.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Actually have Inspired Today, so do you. Yeah, it's called
• 52:37
  Inspire Today. Actually got suspended for some reason.
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: I got to get called Inspire Today Podcast. Okay, so
• 52:46
  it'll be Inspire Today Podcast on Instagram. It will be
• 52:51
  probably that on YouTube as well, and then if we
• 52:55
  do more other things, then we'll say that on the
• 52:58
  website or a hand some point. Yeah, that's kind of
• 53:01
  that's so if they just like know what to search
• 53:03
  for and then you just do that. So yeah, post
• 53:06
  clips on there, might have like some question things on
• 53:09
  Instagram and whatever, so make sure you follow those and subscribe.
• 53:14
  Hit the button to follow this whatever platform.
• 53:18
  Speaker 8: Smash like the classic outro like subscribingation, do right things
• 53:29
  all the things Nick, you got.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: I got no outro. Those are amazing outros.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: And I could tell you to subscribe to stuff, but
• 53:36
  all I'm gonna tell you is talk to people, have
• 53:39
  a good conversation.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Start a podcast.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Start a podcast. Yo, if you guys start a podcast,
• 53:45
  I'll listen to it. I might not depends on how
• 53:47
  many of those are.
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: But then this gets like a billion views. They're like,
• 53:51
  I'm gonna start watch.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I guess I know what my job is now. But no,
• 53:58
  just like, think about inspire and yourself and just like
• 54:01
  let it sit in the back of your mind. Yeah,
• 54:04
  over the next set amount of time, two minutes, ten minutes,
• 54:08
  two years, however much, but just like something something to
• 54:11
  like let yourself like notice, it's just like, oh and
• 54:15
  me talking with this person this way. I did some
• 54:17
  form of evangelization, and honestly, it makes me feel good
• 54:21
  and joyful and happy. And isn't that what we all
• 54:24
  want to be happy?
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: So be happy.
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: That's some good advice. I like, just do it.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: That's terrible advice.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, well sweet, that's that's our goal. It's been Nick
• 54:41
  Fulton and Michael Should we say outro prayer?
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: That's an outro prayer, right out, prayers, Oh I, let
• 54:49
  the interests are, we can switch around next week.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Something else to do here? Can they have a father? Lord?
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you for this conversation between us, and we pray
• 54:59
  that this and whatever we do in the future might
• 55:03
  speak to just one heart and it'll all be worth it.
• 55:07
  To change one person's life would make this all worthwhile,
• 55:15
  and we pray that it may be done in a
• 55:19
  holy and loving manner centered around you.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Amen. Amen, Amen, Pee so