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#124: Terrifier 2 (2022) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  No. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? Dude, is downright gruesome bet.
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  Your appetites of bake US Foods a little funny.
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  It's a little funny. It's a little funny at the clown
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  Cafe. Hey, we did it.
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  Did the bad, the ugly, and the Absurd, and all of our favorite
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  and least favorite pairing, it easy.
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  Because we believe every horror movie rifle, he has its fanbase,
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  even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jesse today. We are talking the 2022.
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  Smash success of Tara fire to. Yes, very excited.
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  We've been looking forward to this for a while.
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  Yes, I do want to go ahead and get out of the way some
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  announcements. Okay, real quick one is that if
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  you are A budget level Patron, then you have access to our
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  monthly bonus episodes and this month it happens to be a revisit
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  of our episode on the first Tara Fire movie.
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  Yeah. So episode 68 on our main feed
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  accessible to everybody was our initial coverage of Tara fire
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  and that was an interview with David Howard Thornton so it was
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  much more interview style and less are typical review format.
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  Yeah and we decided that we wanted to revisit it.
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  It prior to discussing Tara fire to.
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  So we made that our bonus episode for this month's
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  patreon. If you want to hear that.
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  I mean if you just want to subscribe for a month to budget
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  level and download, all of the other bonus episodes that we've
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  had, you'll get a shout-out, you'll get access to other cool
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  things. At least for the time that
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  you're subscribed and you can join the ranks of cool kids like
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  are, can be be of shaken, not scared.
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  Yes. Joe freaking truck has this is
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  full name and Amber. Yes.
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  So and we appreciate the support.
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  However, You are willing and able to give it.
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  Even if that's just word of mouth, telling people that you
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  think we're cool writing reviewing and subscribing to our
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  show sharing episodes as they are.
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  We appreciate all of it. Yes.
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  Yeah, no matter what, we appreciate all of you guys.
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  So yeah, if you want to just if you want more terrified content,
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  like you doesn't it? Yeah, we've got a, why?
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  Actually, we've got way more than we probably should because
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  we've got like, Damien Leone himself, very true.
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  Okay. You got anything else?
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  Nope, that's my big announcement.
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  All right. Cool.
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  All right. I've got her pulse.
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  Okay. So we did Truth or Dare last
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  week for Jesse's birthday and come up with something really
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  stupid for this. I leave.
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  This is perfect bowling on Friday.
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  I don't fucking think this is stupid.
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  I love this. The pole of this week is truth
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  or dare Truth or Dare. So on Twitter, 43%, pick truth.
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  Okay 57 pick. They're all right, you know.
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  And I had told myself, if anybody would generally, ask for
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  truth sword, a request I would have given you guys some.
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  I didn't make that clear, but I was prepared to do it if anybody
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  actually wanted some. Yes, you still do ask me.
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  I don't know how I'll give you something.
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  Yeah, Instagram 64 pick truth and 36 pick their interesting.
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  Yeah. Got more Risk Takers on Twitter.
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  Nothing wrong with the truth. The truth can be just as
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  intimidating. Imitating as you there, sometime
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  handle the truth. Some people can't know.
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  I often can't. That's it.
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  That's our poll, okay? So let's say, let's get on into
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  terrified, to okay to terrified. So terrified her to actually
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  premiered at Fright Fest on August 29th, 2022.
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  And it had a theatrical release on October 6.
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  Yeah, that was a good fucking day.
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  Yeah, it was look. Okay.
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  We have been to the Movie theaters, all white here since
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  the pandemic has well restrictions, I've eased up and
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  movies has become more accessible to live with a
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  pandemic. Yes.
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  And however, movie-going experience has have not been as
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  pleasant. So usually if you go to the
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  theater now people don't know how to behave.
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  This may have been an issue before M3 engine.
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  Yes on Friday and it was us and two other couples and we were
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  all grouped really close. Together which I feel like is
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  very rude because I'm pretty sure we were the first ones to
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  buy tickets. Know there are the people behind
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  this had first. I bought ours there.
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  Yeah if it's empty. Don't fuckin sit next to people.
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  That's so stupid. That's so rude.
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  I hate it. But the couple that sat next to
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  us they were clearly waiting for moments that they saw in the
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  trailer. Yeah, and they reacted to every
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  single moment from a trailer and then as soon as she was done
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  with her little dance fit, this couple got of them left.
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  That was all I wanted to see, I set the closest to them, this
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  lady the entire time any time something would happen.
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  She go. Mmm.
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  And then, like any time like somebody made a face, just like
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  over that face and just like making comments about everything
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  and then and she forgot her hat. Okay?
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  They did everybody else problem they left they made their own
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  ending. They're like, okay, so it ends
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  at this moment with the dancing and then that's it.
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  That's our ending to Mega but then she's like, oh no, I kind
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  of changed my in. Thing.
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  So she's like, that's my ending. You're going in there, you're
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  getting a new ending. She got the alternate ending.
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  This is me with this girl, in my kindergarten class who tried to
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  tell me how it goes, Focus ands with Thackery Binx being hit.
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  Yeah, exactly. Like in this one right here is
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  like and she danced. Maybe it's her.
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  Maybe this is her all grown up. Maybe she's like, I'm done the
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  dancing. That's it.
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  That's sending. So all of us to say and that our
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  Halloween kills experience sucked.
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  Yeah, l mean is is okay. But you know, I will say, we
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  went to terrify her to in the theaters.
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  Chad, we went with you guys. Mandy, it's sad, man dies.
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  We saw this with you guys kind of on accident.
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  Yeah, we don't like see like we didn't like hey let's all get
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  tickets together. Yeah, we just happen to have the
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  same idea of a double feature of trick or treat and interior fire
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  to. It was cool.
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  Yeah. And we all kind of like we
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  didn't sit together because like that.
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  My point is the theater was sold out.
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  Yeah, we had a sold out show too terrified to and I will say that
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  was probably only one of my favorite theater-going
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  experience has ever because everybody was cool.
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  Everybody was clearly like fans of the genre and everybody just
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  wanted to see Tara fire. Yes.
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  So it was great. I'm glad that this movie came
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  out in theaters. Yes.
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  But for purposes of our podcast, we watched it on our Blu-ray are
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  4K, 4K Blu-ray. I am kind of fucking amazed at
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  this came out in 4k. If I'm being honest.
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  Yes. Travis drove to multiple Best
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  Buy's together because selling out that may be still.
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  Fucking doing well yeah I would drive to a Best Buy.
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  It's like we don't have them like God damn it.
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  Yeah this was like two days after it really used to.
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  Yeah. Okay so it is currently
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  available for watching in the US as of January 14th. 2023
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  streaming on screen Box. YouTube private YouTube TV
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  premium Prime premium or you can rent it through Redbox Google
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  Play review. Do this is all through screen
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  box. If you subscribe to their
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  service through other services, written and directed by Damien
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  Leone music by Paul Wiley and special effects by Damien Leone,
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  assisted by Falcone. Yeah.
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  Phil Falcone because like we watch the behind the scenes
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  stuff with us, that's on the Blu-ray and like, Damien does,
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  he is definitely the brain behind all of this.
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  However, he's got a whole, fuckin team that all of these
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  people were involved, there's a lot of people like a lot of work
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  when. Yes, yes, yeah.
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  Starring David, Howard Thornton as art the clown Lauren lovera
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  as Sienna LE at Fulham. Is Jonathan Sarah Voight is
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  Barbara Amelie. McClain as the little pale girl
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  Kaylee, hymen is Brooke and Casey Hartnett is a lie.
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  There's also like special cameos by fullest arose and Chris
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  Jericho. I was really surprised that it
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  was hyped up that felissa Rose is in this movie and then she's
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  like in it for five seconds and that's it.
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  I thought that she was going to be more of A character.
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  Yeah, well, I thought Chris Jericho is gonna be more of a
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  character considering where he pops up on the he gets a with
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  credit. Yeah, with Chris Jericho.
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  I'm like, oh, okay. And then he doesn't pop up till
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  mid-credits scene. Maybe he's the pale girl.
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  I hope that he's more involved in the second one.
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  I feel like he's got to be in the intro.
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  He's just got such a white like he is, she's a whore bass.
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  Yeah, he's of worth it. He's just a chaotic person and
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  in a way that I love, yes, except for the fact that I will
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  never, I agree with him. I love things, I love things,
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  things is amazing. Yes, I and I'm sure he would
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  like, you know, I actually think we're the only people that
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  actually enjoy watching that anytime we bring it up to
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  anybody else. People are like, why they think
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  were joking. It's a know like, it's actually
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  fun. It is already party party.
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  Okay budget or back. Ted, this is bug Ted.
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  However, this is budget compared to the original.
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  Yes, big time. I don't know the actual number
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  for this so do you have one? Yes.
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  So it's 250,000. Hey, yeah, so that might be, we
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  talked about this and our initial episode and in our
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  patreon episode covering the first one that it was erroneous
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  list erroneously listed that. A fire had a budget of 250,000.
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  That's this one's budget. So what actually happened was
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  they set up an Indiegogo with a goal of 50,000.
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  Yeah. And I raised two hundred fifty
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  thousand. I remember when this happened, I
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  think I might be misremembering. I thought the original intention
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  was to fund a single scene, but yeah, I think they ended up
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  using a lot of the extra budget for went towards the, yeah,
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  which is awesome. So opening box.
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  Is eight hundred and five thousand which was impressive
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  due to a limited theatrical release.
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  It was basically in Regal Theaters which I'm surprised it
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  got as wide of a release. As I did honest.
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  And they kept extending its release.
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  Yeah. And then it currently has a
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  worldwide gross of 12 million. Fuck dude, that's so cool.
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  Yeah. Like okay, that's not like
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  actual big numbers in the grand scheme of things but what the a
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  limited release look like in this race.
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  Yeah. Yeah this is hugely crowdsource
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  and in made like huge waves throughout like the entire
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  industry. Yeah, we're talking about this
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  thing went up against Halloween. Yeah.
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  Like this was an October. Hmm.
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  So yeah, it did really well currently sitting at a 6 point 2
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  out of 10 on IMDb. Okay, I, you know, that's pretty
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  fair, I guess. All right, so for my three,
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  movies from 2022, because you're insisting that we do this for
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  all of the movies. This month, I hope.
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  I should have told you the ones. Well too bad.
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  Okay. You're gonna have to pay that
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  because maybe I don't know depends on what you picked.
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  So I don't really have a theme other than movies that we still
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  haven't seen yet. Even though, I've repeatedly
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  said, I want to see them. Okay, we're safe.
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  That's safe. So, the first one is the menu,
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  okay? Which was released November.
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  18th 2022. I saw the trailers for that and
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  it just didn't work. I love Anya.
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  Taylor Joy. Watch it overrated.
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  Budget of 35 million worldwide gross of 76 million.
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  Okay? And I am DB rating of 7.3.
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  People love it. I'm willing to watch it, it's
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  just, it's a nice BMX now, yeah, well, watch it, watch it the
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  invitation, oh, that one. Yeah, released August 26th,
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  budget of 10 million worldwide, gross of 33 million, current
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  rating of five point, three, That one also didn't really that
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  one. Like it looks like a movie that
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  like if we were trying to find something new but didn't want to
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  like take a big risk. I feel like this one seems
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  pretty inoffensive. It looked really fucking
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  generic. Yeah, I was gonna say no
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  privacy. Yeah.
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  Invited to a creepy wedding in a castle.
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  I'm down and filling up. Just watch ready or not?
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  I know it's a completely different movie.
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  Yes. I kind of know, like, some of
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  the things that go on with it but still at the same time, if
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  that's what you're looking for. Watch where you're not and then
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  bones and all. Okay.
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  Okay. I do want to watch that one.
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  I've seen, that's another one trailers in 2022 sucked ass
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  because they did not make me excited for movies at all.
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  Like, oh no, this one starts off with her biting off her friends
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  finger. Yeah.
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  Okay. Like it didn't.
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  It looked like it was trying to be super Art House and like, I
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  don't know super elevated whore. Shit, I don't know.
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  Well anyway, released November 23rd.
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  Okay, I've heard great things about that to, I'd be down to
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  watch it. 16 million budget and only a 14.5 million gross.
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  Wow. I can't believe it 16 million
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  for that. Yeah.
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  Wow. It's currently sitting at a six
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  point nine on IMDb. Okay, that's good.
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  I have a tagline for this one. Yeah, there was one line for the
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  first one. Yeah, that's still 100 percent
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  more tag lines. Than the first verify.
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  Yeah, by the way guys, Tara fire.
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  The original does not have a tagline.
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  We talked about in the patreon episode and it's really
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  upsetting. All right, you ready?
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  Yeah. Who's laughing now I like it.
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  That's good. I think it works.
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  Yeah. Okay, so some fun facts.
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  Some of these are, you know, some of them, you don't ya?
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  Okay. So the alley death scene was
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  originally much shorter. This is the bedroom death scene
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  if you do. A character names that should be
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  enough for you to know which one I'm referring to.
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  Yeah, it was originally much shorter and the plan shooting
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  was only going to be two days. However, as they were working on
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  filming covid-19, pandemic, restrictions all of that
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  happened. So they had to pause filming for
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  a little bit and Damien said, you know what I like to do?
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  I like, to make Prosthetics and gory visuals, so he built a
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  bunch of Prosthetics of Casey Hartnett and planned out a much
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  more, elaborate that scene that ended up running for a total of
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  like, 3 minutes of screen time. They ended up shooting it for a
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  week. Yes, scene.
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  I remember, like, I kind of can see the different parts because
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  we saw the behind the scenes, like the making of with this.
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  And there are shots with David on top of her and like trying to
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  like squash or back because that's the thing that happens
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  and like you can see like, you know, it would have looked Good.
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  But then when they were talking about that, like how they had to
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  like they got the new Prosthetics and everything, it's
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  just her torso and then he's like able to actually just
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  fucking stab this thing full on like you know, you get the
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  actual impact of the blows. Yeah, it was good and I liked
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  the scene like the part where he rips her arm off.
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  Like that, right there. Like I thought he was actually
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  gonna rip your arm off whenever I was seeing that like I was I
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  felt bad for her. I think they did to watching.
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  That was like I was like, no sir.
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  Did it? You could hear in the background
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  one that people like Casey. You okay?
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  Yeah. I think she was still in
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  character but like it's out. She did not sound good.
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  She did a good job acting that out.
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  So CMS will name is Shanna Shaw. Uh-huh.
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  And we talked about this on our patreon episode but you thought
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  that maybe they developed more of a protagonist to go?
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  Again, start after some of the backlash that there wasn't like
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  a fully developed. Story in the first one.
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  Yeah, the character of Sienna has been present for as long as
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  the idea of art. So there was yeah an angel like
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  heroin from his directorial debut short film, The Ninth
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  Circle, which is also where art the clown debuted.
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  We need to watch that. Yeah, we have not seen that.
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  Yeah, so so I just thought that was kind of a little bit of a
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  fun thing. I like that, he's bringing this
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  character back and he actually said that this was his favorite
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  character to write to date as she is Sienna, Shaw.
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  And so, I'm and I think he did a really good job.
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  She's been a breakout heroin. Yeah, I like her.
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  I think that they found a good person and they got a good
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  character going to like continue the franchise with.
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  Yeah. And they, the third film is
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  already in development so that's already.
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  I don't, that was never a question.
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  Yeah, I don't like, I don't care how badly this thing would have
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  performed terrify three was happening.
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  Yeah, he's been making a yeah, I think you're gonna love art.
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  He's like, he's, he's been working on.
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  Since 2006 like yeah, it's almost 20 years on and he's
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  finally starting to catch on. Yeah.
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  And then my final fun fact is the Sienna costume is
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  apparently. So we saw in the behind the
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  scenes that it just kept falling apart.
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  Every time she was putting it on, like they had to fit duct
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  tape superglue Flex tape. They said, at one point, hopes
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  and prayers, they just were constantly, trying to find ways
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  to hold it together throughout the shooting and I read online
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  that it was not. Not even just that it kept
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  falling apart. But apparently it was incredibly
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  uncomfortable for Lauren Lavera to wear to.
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  And she was like, developing blisters from wearing out.
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  Yeah. She said so she said she
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  initially loved the costume but by the end of filming she was
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  just like, I hate this thing. I'm trying to figure out what
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  part of that would cause blisters had imagined like the
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  top part. Yeah.
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  Shit dude. That's gotta be uncomfortable.
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  Yeah, so those are my fun facts. Okay.
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  How they work? You know, interesting little
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  thing. Yeah, there's more out there but
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  you know like yeah. That's that's fun.
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  That's, that's all we need to talk about today.
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  Yeah, okay. Okay, Travis so, do you want to
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  tell me your thoughts your rating?
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  What's good? What's bad?
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  What's ugly? What's absurd?
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  Okay, I think for the good that this is about as good of a
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  follow-up that You can do for a movie.
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  A lot of times people say that you can't beat the original.
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  However, this is like a Terminator 2 type of deal where
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  like part to excel as in every way, over part one, better
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  story, better characters. I think art has more freedom to
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  be fun. He has more environments to play
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  in like, you know, he's got more things to do.
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  Yeah. And I think the film really
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  benefits from all of this extra budget because you can tell they
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  have 35,000. I think it was for the first
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  one. Yes.
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  And they did what they could with that and they Honestly made
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  an impressive film for 35,000 250,000.
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  Seeing all of the toys that they actually had to work with in the
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  behind-the-scenes thing. Like it was like an actual
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  professional set and they had so many set-pieces.
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  Yeah, like an insane amount of locations they were filming at.
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  And I like that, like this movie needed that any they needed to
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  be able to go and roam like, build the Environment of like my
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  own scouting and like, just the characters, like, it allows them
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  to develop to. I do want to share something
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  really dumb. Oh, come on IMDb it says, the
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  synopsis of the film is that in the town of Miles County?
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  Yeah. That's not it.
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  Maybe you know what, maybe they're right.
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  Maybe it is MI County town. Maybe we don't get a state.
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  Are these dumb people? No, no, that's not fair.
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  Because People judge us in Kentucky for being dumb.
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  Maybe it's here in Kentucky. No Damien Leone is to
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  aggressively New Jersey. Everybody that worked on the
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  sound is super New Jersey. Yeah, my first son experiencing
• 20:31
  a New Jersey accent in the wild was John Brennan and I threw me
• 20:36
  off and I was like oh my God like I think I like to imagine
• 20:39
  that's how felissa Rose got involved.
• 20:41
  Like she wasn't actually initially in a contract.
• 20:43
  She just heard all of these New Jersey people together and like
• 20:46
  it was like a signal. Like she was just transported
• 20:48
  there. She was like, what's that?
• 20:49
  Oh man, we got a lot of Jersey people here.
• 20:51
  I guess, I gotta go, just the New Jersey call.
• 20:57
  So yeah, it just is fucking better in every way, the bad for
• 21:01
  this. I do think that this, I'm one of
• 21:04
  the people that thinks this movie runs too long.
• 21:06
  This movie had no business being over two hours, okay?
• 21:09
  Especially with all of the set pieces and the Final Act,
• 21:14
  especially you can trim that down big time.
• 21:17
  Yeah yeah. On subsequent watches because I
• 21:20
  think there's a lot of like really nice build up that I
• 21:23
  enjoy. Yeah.
• 21:24
  You can probably trim the fat in some spots really private and
• 21:28
  there's just so much that just keeps happening to them.
• 21:32
  It's a lot of repeat things. Like, just like God, either,
• 21:36
  like, kill them or have her. Think it's the thing.
• 21:41
  It's the classic thing of like they it's your final people.
• 21:44
  These are the people you need to like continue to have for the
• 21:46
  movie too. Exist.
• 21:47
  You can't kill them right away. Yeah.
• 21:49
  I mean they did that in part one.
• 21:51
  In the movie kept going, you can't really do that again.
• 21:54
  Yeah, not if we're trying to build up Sienna.
• 21:56
  Yeah, exactly. And it's just like it was a lot
• 21:59
  of Siena saves Jonathan. And then they get attacked and
• 22:04
  then they run away and then art finds them and then they kill
• 22:07
  art and then art comes back to Hawaii.
• 22:08
  And then this just repeat for like three different scenes.
• 22:12
  Yeah, it's a solid like 40 minutes.
• 22:15
  Yeah, it's a solid, 40 minutes of that.
• 22:17
  Yeah, that's like the entire final act.
• 22:19
  So I think it could have been cut.
• 22:21
  Yeah, I'm density. Clean it up the ugly with this.
• 22:27
  I mean like other than the obvious ugliness of it.
• 22:30
  Like it's a very mean movie. Yeah, very mean-spirited but I
• 22:34
  love the meanest of it. Like it's part of what has its
• 22:39
  charm. Like that's what this movie is.
• 22:40
  Like, you can watch these, like nice horror movies that, you
• 22:43
  know, everything is all clean and everything.
• 22:45
  But this right here like the whole point It is to just like,
• 22:48
  have a lot of Gore and a lot of violence and it's fun.
• 22:51
  Well, and he even said in multiple interviews that so many
• 22:55
  people were like, how are they going to top the crack of dawn?
• 22:58
  And there was that built-in pressure of like, okay.
• 23:01
  That's the scene everybody remembers and, you know, he's
• 23:05
  got a great love and a great talent for special effects.
• 23:09
  And I feel like it became a personal challenge of like, how
• 23:11
  are we gonna stop this? I was trying to think and I was
• 23:14
  like, it's definitely that the alley see Yeah, that's like
• 23:18
  yeah, the bedroom scene and that wouldn't that probably would not
• 23:21
  have been like, it probably would have just played out like
• 23:23
  most of the deaths. And this movie had they not had
• 23:25
  that breaks to like, collaborate on him.
• 23:28
  Yeah. And the Absurd for this, I'm
• 23:34
  just going to think, like Jonathan's character as a whole
• 23:37
  though. That kid is like a fucking mess,
• 23:39
  something bad would have happened with that kid.
• 23:41
  Eventually had something bad, not already happened, like
• 23:45
  something worse happened to make.
• 23:47
  Yeah yeah. Draw the heat away from him.
• 23:49
  Yeah. It's if the mouth County, clown
• 23:51
  hadn't actually come back to the day, he might have like become a
• 23:54
  fan boy or something. I mean, he kind of was like, he,
• 23:57
  his whole thing is he's like one of the little play as the queen.
• 24:00
  That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he would have become like
• 24:01
  a copycat super fascinated with serial killers.
• 24:04
  He's talking about Hitler at The Breakfast Table, like it's just
• 24:09
  weird. Get, it could be bad news and he
• 24:12
  definitely hit a growth spurt in the pause between filming and
• 24:16
  they're just like I I love it when stuff like that happens and
• 24:19
  they just have to have a throwaway line.
• 24:21
  And she was like, have you grown another foot since dinner?
• 24:23
  That's fine. I was getting my town class
• 24:26
  Town. That's kinda miles County town.
• 24:30
  He's like on the actual like you're entering miles
• 24:32
  county-town, the tallest kid. He's holding the sign.
• 24:36
  Yeah, you can see it. All right, so having all that
• 24:41
  said, and done. I fucking love this movie, had
• 24:45
  Barbarian, not been the surprise hit For me that it was this
• 24:48
  would be my favorite of the year.
• 24:51
  I give this movie A 9.25 9.25. Yes.
• 24:56
  Okay I meant actually going to give mine a 9.5 so we're
• 25:01
  starting off with an average of nine point three eight.
• 25:06
  Okay so I think the good I love that it's a much more developed
• 25:10
  story and I feel like the relationship amongst the family
• 25:14
  feels very real. An established like their
• 25:19
  interactions few learned? Yeah.
• 25:22
  All right. I love Sienna as this Kick-Ass
• 25:25
  protagonist. Yeah, I think she's a lot of fun
• 25:28
  to watch Damsel in Distress. She's like the one saving.
• 25:32
  Yeah. The time she's saving and she's
• 25:34
  like, cool and artistic and she's dealing with shit and
• 25:38
  she's, you know, trying to just like keep her family together
• 25:42
  and keep herself together and big time.
• 25:45
  Yeah, I just I think she's a really well flush.
• 25:47
  About character. And she's you want to root for
• 25:50
  her. Yeah.
• 25:52
  Not just because she's an opposition to the bad guy but
• 25:55
  because she is a likable character.
• 25:58
  Yeah. The bad.
• 26:01
  Again, I don't think there's like any specific scene.
• 26:04
  I would cut out but I think I would trim down several scenes.
• 26:09
  It just needs Damien Leonia, we said in the Patriot episode was
• 26:13
  some some Chasin? Yes.
• 26:15
  He loves some cat and mouse and there's Too much of it was a, it
• 26:18
  was a problem with the first era fire.
• 26:20
  Its he improved in so many ways with writing a script, however,
• 26:25
  he can't get past that thing. Yeah.
• 26:28
  And we saw in the behind the scenes, where he would be like,
• 26:31
  oh this hallway looks really cool.
• 26:33
  Let's get some shots here. So he just gets excited and adds
• 26:37
  on and on and on school. And I think all of the scenes
• 26:40
  like they're beautifully shot, and they're really intense, and
• 26:42
  all of the effects and work that went into.
• 26:45
  It is definitely admirable, but But yes at a certain point it is
• 26:49
  like what additional story are you telling after a certain
• 26:54
  point? It's the tough thing man.
• 26:56
  Like it's your baby and you don't want to cut anything out
• 26:58
  because you have it all. But like that's why sometimes
• 27:01
  you need to bring in somebody from the outside to like, you
• 27:05
  know, like I get it. This is his thing in like it's
• 27:09
  his vision. He won't like he did the editing
• 27:12
  for this. Well and I think about even our
• 27:14
  show. Yeah.
• 27:15
  Editing it there, I've got And more and more like do we need to
• 27:19
  have this discussion here know and I will chop out bigger and
• 27:22
  bigger Parts. The more I don't got to you've
• 27:24
  edited so it used to be that we were just headed out little
• 27:28
  pauses things like that but now it's actually listening to the
• 27:31
  discussion is this adding anything, either it be to our
• 27:34
  review or to the Haas. And if it's not, then I'm just
• 27:39
  like, all right, well cut this out from clown school, and King
• 27:41
  of the Hill that was tartuffe. It's fried Wonder Dog.
• 27:48
  Yes, yes. So I yeah, I can see how it
• 27:52
  could be cut down some. I still think it would be a
• 27:54
  pretty lengthy movie and I wouldn't be mad about it, but I
• 27:56
  think we could cut it down to two hours and bees.
• 27:59
  I'd be happy with that. Yeah, it's two hours and 19
• 28:01
  minutes now. Yeah, you can cut 19 of that.
• 28:04
  Yeah, for sure. The ugly.
• 28:07
  Oh, man. Some of these, I use the word
• 28:10
  brutalize a lot in my notes because that's how you describe
• 28:14
  some of these deaths. Some of these, just go on and on
• 28:17
  and on and it's weird because it's so much is happening and
• 28:24
  you do see like, the after effects.
• 28:25
  But I wouldn't necessarily think of it as torture porn and the
• 28:28
  same vein of likes our hostel. Yeah, I think it's really weird.
• 28:33
  That people brand these movies as torture porn because It's not
• 28:35
  really torture porn. It's just like somebody that is
• 28:38
  like, very brutal with his killing.
• 28:41
  Yeah, it's a Gore Fest for sure. Yeah.
• 28:44
  But it's not like, it's not like torture Prime where it's like,
• 28:47
  okay you're in this room and you're going to do those like
• 28:50
  you're suffering that like he, I mean I guess they are times
• 28:53
  where he has like suffering. Like a lie.
• 28:56
  Yes, difficuly. She suffers.
• 28:58
  But yeah, other people he just kind of kills him.
• 29:01
  Yeah. So and then the Absurd, I this
• 29:07
  is absurd and a good way. I fuckin love all the moments
• 29:10
  where he's wearing normal clothes on top of his costume in
• 29:14
  some way, shape, or form. So, like, obviously the scene
• 29:16
  and Abracadabra where he's trying all the different
• 29:18
  classes. Yes.
• 29:20
  But also the mashed potatoes scene where he wanders and
• 29:22
  wearing the apron. Yeah, at the Bell.
• 29:25
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think those are fun fun
• 29:29
  little moments that I enjoy. Yeah.
• 29:31
  Okay. So 9.5.
• 29:34
  Okay. All right.
• 29:35
  Cool. Well, that's where we stand free
• 29:38
  discussion. So let's let's get to
• 29:40
  discussing. Yeah.
• 29:41
  And we're probably not going to break down every scene super
• 29:44
  detail, just because we don't want a three hour podcast, but
• 29:48
  it's a long movie, but a lot of things just kind of happen, and
• 29:51
  you can kind of like, like the ending, like, we can really
• 29:54
  condense the ending. Yeah.
• 29:56
  So, all right, all right. Starts off with our emerging
• 29:59
  from an alley and then it cuts back to the corner that we left
• 30:03
  off with. And First movie?
• 30:05
  Yeah, get helpful. Head chopped in.
• 30:07
  Is this the same guy? This looks like the same guy.
• 30:09
  Yeah, I'm glad that they were able to like what that much time
• 30:13
  difference. Like I'm it's cool that they
• 30:15
  managed to get the same person. Yeah, so he's calling 911 but he
• 30:19
  can't speak because he's already been attacked in some way shape
• 30:22
  or form and then art manages to actually kill him.
• 30:26
  He and we were talking about this when we're revisiting the
• 30:30
  first one but our see it Like our head Canon is that he
• 30:37
  doesn't? He didn't know that.
• 30:38
  He would come back to life when he shot himself confirmed.
• 30:41
  I'm pretty sure he did not know that it's been actually discuss.
• 30:45
  Okay? So at the way you said it, it
• 30:48
  sounded like you didn't know I was his buddy.
• 30:49
  Say, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that was
• 30:52
  discussed. But like, honestly, I like the
• 30:55
  way that he is behaving here, like one of the one of this
• 30:59
  movie. People are kind of like
• 31:01
  discovering that they have like these Supernatural.
• 31:04
  A big theme. Yeah like in that is kind of
• 31:07
  like where this one begins. So he comes to life and he kills
• 31:13
  the corner and takes out his eyeball and Pops it into his own
• 31:17
  school and he's having a whole moment with it when I was in the
• 31:20
  theater watching this, I had the biggest fucking smile, like when
• 31:23
  he grabbed his eye and just put it in his head.
• 31:25
  It's so fucking cool. Like that is so on point for
• 31:28
  art. Yeah, I like that.
• 31:30
  This movie doesn't take itself too seriously.
• 31:33
  Yeah, that's what I was saying before.
• 31:34
  Like in the first episode like it's just like our has fun.
• 31:38
  Yeah. And I was seeing him be like
• 31:41
  this very sadistic person while also just enjoying himself and
• 31:45
  just having a good time. Yeah he ends up popping the
• 31:49
  dudes brain out and then he steals a bunch of his tools from
• 31:51
  around the morgue. Yeah.
• 31:52
  Gets his trash bag. Yeah, backed up and he goes to a
• 31:56
  laundromat and I know that combo washer dryers are a thing.
• 32:03
  I know those exist. Yeah.
• 32:05
  But that's probably know what this is.
• 32:06
  It looks like he's just throwing his bloody clothes into a dryer
• 32:09
  and that's what it sounds like. It sounds like a dryer, not a
• 32:12
  washer and then what's even more confusing.
• 32:15
  So he sits here naked he doesn't clean himself up, he's still got
• 32:18
  blood all over his head and face.
• 32:20
  Yes he's sitting here naked. He's seeing this little pale
• 32:25
  girl and she's playing patty-cake with him and he's
• 32:28
  having a good time and this man that sleeping in the corner
• 32:31
  wakes up and sees him like pack. Taking the air.
• 32:34
  Yeah. And then we cut to him, ringing
• 32:37
  out his clothes that are now clean, but shouldn't be clean
• 32:42
  and shouldn't be wet because they were in the dryer first.
• 32:46
  Yeah. It's fucking.
• 32:47
  He's magic, man. Yeah, I'm just yes, I guess so.
• 32:51
  The pale girl was one of my favorite additions to this
• 32:53
  movie. Yeah, I think that she's great.
• 32:55
  I think what he was saying before.
• 32:57
  He said that this was not the initial design of her.
• 33:00
  Yeah. But he saw so many people doing
• 33:03
  Fire or art cause place, and some of them like they, you
• 33:07
  know, did kind of make them more feminine clothing.
• 33:10
  So he wanted to do that for this character, he ended up pivoting.
• 33:14
  Her design. Yeah, I know what his take on,
• 33:16
  like, where he said, you did like the, the top teeth for the
• 33:19
  bottom. Yeah.
• 33:20
  Make everything off. Yeah, he said, I just, I didn't
• 33:22
  want it to be like obvious, that things were off, but I just
• 33:25
  wanted you to be unsettled. My favorite thing about her is
• 33:28
  when her eyes glow, yellow and darkness, it's just so fucking
• 33:32
  creepy, this girl. A great job with it.
• 33:34
  But like, I'm so confused about why they have her just like shit
• 33:38
  everywhere because that's how she earned his trust.
• 33:41
  I guess that's true. Like that's like the New Jersey
• 33:44
  call for art. Like instead of whoo-hoo.
• 33:46
  It's just yeah, yeah. It's the two of them Ramon and
• 33:51
  Davey England. Yeah, he's going to be in the
• 33:55
  third one. He's glad you guys called.
• 33:59
  Yeah. So we end up seeing that he has
• 34:03
  Killed the man. That was sleeping.
• 34:04
  Yes. Then we got to Siena Sienna's
• 34:07
  theme is fucking awesome. By the way, like Stranger Things
• 34:10
  music. And she is building her costume
• 34:14
  for Halloween and she's really into like she's building mold,
• 34:17
  she is spray painting. Like, she's got an airbrush
• 34:21
  painter. She's building stuff by hand.
• 34:25
  It's really detailed work and she's working off of a sketch
• 34:27
  that her father had made of this character.
• 34:29
  He used to draw her ass. She blows out the candles before
• 34:33
  she heads downstairs. This is important.
• 34:37
  So at dinner they were talking about with are going to dress up
• 34:39
  as for Halloween and her brother.
• 34:41
  Jonathan wants to dress up as the mouse County cloud and she
• 34:44
  is immediately like, no but super disrespectful, and their
• 34:48
  mom is like wait, who is that? What is that and so Sienna
• 34:51
  filter and she goes no you're not doing that.
• 34:55
  Yeah so it's like a year later and this from the last movie
• 34:59
  this is a line that aged poorly but she Like you don't see
• 35:02
  people dressed up as Jeffrey Dahmer that very month.
• 35:05
  People like, when this really is, people were dressing up as
• 35:08
  Jeffrey Dahmer. I agree.
• 35:10
  It's in very poor taste and yeah, it is.
• 35:12
  Ah, I'm excited to do at are fire cosplay because it's
• 35:16
  fucking fake. Yes, a fake.
• 35:18
  Yeah. And his whole thing is like um,
• 35:21
  actually Charles Manson didn't actually kill anybody.
• 35:23
  It's just he's, he's guy. He is defending Charles Manson
• 35:27
  at the table here like this kid is bad.
• 35:31
  News, he's gonna be fucked up and I actually appreciate that
• 35:35
  Siena calls him out on it to his mom later.
• 35:38
  She's like you're gonna find dead animals with him.
• 35:40
  One day like yeah. Is he's seeing some alarming
• 35:44
  shit? Yeah.
• 35:45
  Well then the moms like, well he lost his father and she goes and
• 35:48
  I didn't ya. So and we're kind of seeing
• 35:51
  their different Dynamics for how they're handling the loss of
• 35:54
  their father, which has been within the past year, her mom
• 35:58
  kind of sucks. She's super aggressive to them.
• 36:01
  I think her mom is also dealing with things poorly.
• 36:05
  I think she is losing her mind a little bit because she hasn't
• 36:09
  had time to appropriately deal with her grief because she's had
• 36:12
  to continue parenting them. She's also like working like the
• 36:17
  her introduction, and she's like doing telemarketing while
• 36:19
  cooking dinner for everybody series not telemarketing.
• 36:22
  She's an insurance agent, whatever.
• 36:24
  She's on the phone with somebody.
• 36:26
  Yeah. And like she's working while
• 36:29
  doing home duties to yeah. But I still don't think that's a
• 36:32
  good excuse. She is very aggressive to them
• 36:36
  kid. I will cut her some slack.
• 36:40
  Not saying that all of her choices are correct, but they do
• 36:44
  feel human, she hits her kid. I don't, I didn't remember that.
• 36:48
  I don't agree with that. Yeah.
• 36:52
  So Jonathan ends up coming to Santa's room saying that he
• 36:55
  needs glue for his hat and and I was like, I thought you were
• 36:59
  going to do this because well, I won't paint my Is this little
• 37:02
  fucker never even once puts on the costume after all that.
• 37:06
  I mean, I'm glad he doesn't but like he was going to biggest
• 37:09
  grounded, remember, but he didn't even like, I thought he
• 37:12
  was gonna wear it to school. That would be, he's the right
• 37:15
  age. Would be the only people didn't
• 37:17
  dress up for Halloween at my school.
• 37:19
  Did they do that for you? I always did.
• 37:23
  He said, yeah, okay. No, no.
• 37:25
  We never did always been a Halloween person.
• 37:27
  I mean, sure. I love Halloween, too.
• 37:29
  But also like we just did. Do that.
• 37:33
  And this is where he's like, I'm the biggest boy in town, and
• 37:38
  then he says, that her drawings are almost as good as their
• 37:41
  fathers. He asks about her sword with
• 37:44
  call him daddy, and they're both like very old to call a parent
• 37:48
  daddy, and mommy. Yeah.
• 37:50
  It's, um, he's 12. Yeah.
• 37:53
  He's like almost in high school so Sienna falls asleep with the
• 37:59
  TV on and she has the clown cackling.
• 38:01
  They dream which this is one that I feel like could be
• 38:05
  trimmed down a lot. But also, at the same time I
• 38:08
  like, I swear, I heard somewhere and I couldn't find anything
• 38:11
  confirming it, but I swear that this is where some of the bigger
• 38:14
  like backers on Indiegogo got to.
• 38:17
  Yeah, I think that's, I think the people that are there are
• 38:21
  people that like back there like, you know, they bought a
• 38:25
  certain tear and you got to be in the movie so good for them,
• 38:28
  and they really got to have their fun with it.
• 38:30
  It's He's fucking weird, but also it was really intense
• 38:34
  watching the behind the scenes of how they did some of this
• 38:37
  stuff, especially the banjo player because she's lit on
• 38:41
  fire. I think they got a stunt person
• 38:43
  for that. Yeah.
• 38:44
  But you can also see like the tights or super stuffed, the guy
• 38:48
  that gets caught on fire. He's like, actually screaming.
• 38:51
  I was thinking, like, guys pulled him out, okay, the normal
• 38:55
  call for whenever you want to be put out as like, to lay down
• 38:59
  belly first and he likely Is down belly.
• 39:01
  First 45 seconds, screaming and nobody comes over there to spray
• 39:05
  him down. I'm like, guys, he might
• 39:07
  actually be dying right now. Do something please.
• 39:11
  Yeah, she ends up though, because, you know, he's done a
• 39:14
  whole lot like of slashing and shooting and burning, and she
• 39:18
  wakes up during the burning part, she has like a sword that
• 39:23
  she grabs that is able to like, deflect his Flames.
• 39:26
  Yeah, but she wakes up and her dresser like, where her wings
• 39:30
  were her costume are are on fire and she tries to put it out.
• 39:34
  She can't at the smoke detector start going off in the house.
• 39:38
  Barbara runs in with a fire extinguisher, she gets it.
• 39:42
  And then she says, some very realistic parents, tough to see
• 39:46
  Anna downstairs. What the fuck is wrong with you?
• 39:50
  You could have burned down the whole house.
• 39:52
  He looks you fucking lowlife, Jonathan.
• 39:55
  Go back to bed. You've got to school and he
• 39:57
  goes, I still have to go. She's traumatic, I would do the
• 40:03
  same thing I'd be. I can I not go to school
• 40:05
  tomorrow? - come on fire.
• 40:08
  And then she was like, you take my room.
• 40:10
  I will sleep on the couch and she knows, like, I don't care to
• 40:12
  sleep on the couch, and she goes go to bed, like gritted Teeth.
• 40:18
  It's a good response, Sarah voice.
• 40:21
  She's the hell out of every single one of her lines, but I
• 40:24
  kind of like it was pretty good. So at school.
• 40:30
  Oh, oh, this is where we see the the opening interview from the
• 40:34
  first one. Not only that, but she goes
• 40:37
  upstairs and like the sword is like safe from the fire.
• 40:40
  Nothing happened to this world, there's something funky going
• 40:42
  with this word. So this is where we cut to Art
• 40:45
  and it's basically the opening scene from the first one where
• 40:47
  the TV's on except this time the little pale girls watching an
• 40:51
  art is building his tools. I like that the pale girl was in
• 40:53
  the first one all along. Yeah ugly yeah.
• 40:57
  So and this is how we know that this is taking place at And of
• 41:02
  where the first one took off. Yeah.
• 41:05
  So at school, Jonathan's friends have found a dead possum by a
• 41:08
  dumpster. Typical sixth-grade boy stuff
• 41:11
  that gross out, one of the girls with it, felissa Rose uses her
• 41:15
  mom voice to yell at all of them.
• 41:17
  Jesse took the opportunity to tell Felicity.
• 41:20
  Yeah. She's like, by the way I
• 41:21
  appreciated your mom voice and Tara fire to.
• 41:23
  It was actually scary. She gushed like, oh my God.
• 41:26
  Yes, she like she loved working with the kids.
• 41:31
  On this Edge, it was like I tried to take care of them but I
• 41:33
  just hate how underutilized. So she is in this movie.
• 41:36
  Like yeah, she signed on for this and she's here for 5
• 41:39
  seconds. It sucks.
• 41:40
  But she like, makes them Osa better.
• 41:42
  I mean, we know she has kids, we saw her at the Jamboree and she
• 41:46
  was, she actually got it all about him.
• 41:49
  She talked to your entire vomit. She also got a call from her
• 41:51
  daughter in the middle of her panel.
• 41:53
  Oh yeah. She uses I feel like was like
• 42:03
  pulled from a very real place. Yeah, so in class Jonathan asks
• 42:10
  for a hall pass and he goes out he sees art and a little pale
• 42:14
  girl and they are playing with the dead possum.
• 42:16
  Do you think they're actually here?
• 42:18
  I get the against weird because, like, people would notice like
• 42:21
  this clown running around and this little girl right though.
• 42:24
  So we get into some mirrored metaphysics stuff with all of
• 42:28
  this. I think only certain people can
• 42:31
  See the pill, girl? Yeah, I think everybody can, I
• 42:33
  think it's only Sienna and Jonathan?
• 42:35
  Yeah. They for sure skis can.
• 42:38
  But like you said, like somehow aren't manages to escape any
• 42:41
  notice. But what they do is they
• 42:44
  Jonathan is like freaked out and he's Frozen in place, washing
• 42:47
  them and they toss the pasta Madam.
• 42:49
  So that's real. Because it actually hits them
• 42:51
  and he's got blood on his hands. Yeah.
• 42:54
  And then, the principal comes by sees him covered in blood and he
• 43:00
  runs off. And there's a dead possum in the
• 43:02
  hall and she was like, what the fuck?
• 43:03
  Not looking good for Jonathan. No, it really doesn't.
• 43:06
  It's kind of funny because this is like immediately after seeing
• 43:08
  his like you're going to find him with a dead animal and is
• 43:10
  right. Yeah, I've got a dead animal so
• 43:14
  at at the high school seeing his friends are concerned about her.
• 43:17
  She's kind of having a panic attack, they briefly discussed
• 43:21
  the Monica Brown interview, and this is how we know that she's
• 43:24
  still in critical condition, Brooke.
• 43:27
  Rub me the wrong way, from the very GetGo.
• 43:30
  Well, yeah, yeah. Brooke ends up drugging her
• 43:32
  friends. Yeah, blaming her for it.
• 43:34
  I just don't like the way. I just don't like it here.
• 43:37
  I don't think that she's a good friend for Sienna.
• 43:39
  How is nice? Well Barbara.
• 43:41
  Clearly also doesn't agree, because when she asked about her
• 43:44
  plan, she goes, oh, I'm gonna Melanie Martinez Halloween party
• 43:48
  or Melanie Megan or whatever. The fuck her name is, she's
• 43:51
  like, oh, are you going with Alex?
• 43:52
  Because, yeah, and Brooke she goes.
• 43:54
  Hmm. That's why.
• 43:57
  Yeah, they ran out with her. They're going to the costume
• 44:03
  store because Sienna her wings burnt.
• 44:05
  Yes, she doesn't have time to rebuild them because it is
• 44:08
  Halloween. Now, I will say she finds like
• 44:10
  legitimately good replacement, like they look as good as the
• 44:13
  original and they're smaller, but they end up being a good
• 44:17
  size for a crowded bar, because she would have been annoying in
• 44:19
  the other ones. Yeah, like yeah, that was not
• 44:23
  that good. So wha She's there are also
• 44:28
  appears and he's like making Sienna super uncomfortable, and
• 44:34
  she only left because she got a call from her.
• 44:36
  Mom's yes. Hannah is by herself.
• 44:38
  Yeah, so she goes up front because she's freaked out by him
• 44:41
  and she goes to pay for the wings and the guy who like she
• 44:45
  doesn't have her bag and she's like, oh God, I got to go get my
• 44:48
  bag but then are like appears in just slice it on the counter.
• 44:52
  And then he goes, it's like him in the background.
• 44:54
  So even focusing on him but you can see him.
• 44:56
  He's just like, it's a guy's hands behind his back.
• 44:58
  Just like twiddling his fingers just like, hmm.
• 45:00
  What kind of glasses should I wear today?
• 45:02
  Yeah, he's putting on all of these different glasses and it's
• 45:05
  just such a good physical comedy.
• 45:07
  These are good Cuts Like any good just like hard cuts to him.
• 45:10
  Every time and he's got a new face with a new glass.
• 45:12
  Like a pair of glasses on. I like the flame ones.
• 45:14
  Those are good. My favorite are the sunflowers.
• 45:17
  I like the ones that are like from.
• 45:20
  Oh, what's the fucking Guillermo del Toro movie with the ones I'm
• 45:25
  talking about? They're worn.
• 45:27
  Hands are those. Hey yeah.
• 45:29
  But they were games. No, those are cool too.
• 45:33
  Yeah. And he's got like the little
• 45:34
  like we I wins. That's what acid.
• 45:37
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:39
  He's just having the time of his life and then he finds like one
• 45:42
  of those little horns. Yeah.
• 45:43
  Well first he has like one of the little party like oh yeah.
• 45:46
  Here is and the guy. Hey Ricky the store clerk is
• 45:50
  like hey if you're in, put it on in your mouth, you have to pay
• 45:53
  for it and he just like, spits it out.
• 45:55
  I think that was the first time I'm are experienced Authority
• 45:58
  because he actually responded to it for a second.
• 46:01
  Oh shit. I'm sorry.
• 46:02
  Oh my God. You know, the matter if I want
• 46:03
  to see what I want to see ART versus Busta Rhymes carrier and
• 46:08
  Halloween. Resurrection are would not know
• 46:10
  how to react to that he be. Yeah, ii-i'm.
• 46:13
  So sorry. He didn't actually speak.
• 46:16
  Did you write? I do think he responds well to
• 46:18
  Authority like that's why they, that's what they said and how
• 46:22
  wieners are action episode? Yeah, I think that's what JW.
• 46:24
  So he's like I love that Michael Myers.
• 46:27
  Responds well to Authority and we know that cannot mclee art is
• 46:31
  partially inspired by Michael Myers.
• 46:35
  True. Maybe Resurrection Michael.
• 46:37
  Yeah, he's like, that's my Michael.
• 46:40
  That's my. Favorite are thought enough of a
• 46:42
  himbo for it? I don't know, man.
• 46:47
  Did you see how well he should up some rooms again?
• 46:50
  The first one, he's does it a couple times in this one.
• 46:53
  I feel like you might not know what I can do is I think I do.
• 46:59
  I think I got it. All right.
• 47:03
  So he he finds a little horn and the guys like hang on.
• 47:08
  I got to go back here. I'm out of bags.
• 47:10
  So he leaves you in alone and this is a moment that we
• 47:13
  recognize in the theater. Immediately was Inspire.
• 47:15
  This had to have been inspired by real-life experience.
• 47:19
  That David had a convention and go back and listen to her
• 47:22
  interview with him. He talks about it, where he was
• 47:26
  with One of the handlers at a convention and he was like, in
• 47:29
  full costume and character, and he's like sneaking up on this
• 47:32
  guy with this horn and the guy was like, please stop it.
• 47:34
  Please stop it. And he's done it like down to
• 47:36
  the dialogue. Exactly like and he's like, in
• 47:39
  tears. And then he starts honking the
• 47:40
  horn at him. And this is exactly how this
• 47:42
  thing plays out, which makes sense, because, like, the whole
• 47:45
  thing with this, David, and Damian talked about how they
• 47:49
  just, like, wrote his character together, like, hey, yeah, I
• 47:51
  guarantee. But, she's like, I did this shit
• 47:53
  at the convention. We need to get this in the next
• 47:55
  movie. Yeah.
• 47:56
  Yeah, so after Sienna, leaves hands of like, buying the horn,
• 48:00
  but like, he kills her key. Yeah.
• 48:03
  And they do a fucking good job with his fake head.
• 48:06
  Yeah, we're, Uh, sama building process is intense.
• 48:09
  This made me realize that they have a way of getting, like the
• 48:13
  fake head on there by putting green goop on people and I'm
• 48:16
  like, oh, that's a green screen. Like they're like, green
• 48:19
  screening their head out. Do you know what I'm talking
• 48:22
  about babe? They're building molds, but the
• 48:26
  A day. Like I'm, like, he's like,
• 48:27
  actually there on the scene. No, the green goop was so that
• 48:30
  way they could build a mold of the head.
• 48:32
  Oh, I am an idiot. Then I put it also makes sense
• 48:35
  for them to green screen, right? Like it's green.
• 48:37
  That anytime I see green in anything with movies, I'm like
• 48:40
  that's for like, post editing later.
• 48:44
  I see where your line of thought was maybe could be both like a
• 48:47
  lot of something overlay, those things, it's true.
• 48:49
  Yeah. Alright.
• 48:51
  So anyways, yeah. You chopped his head off.
• 48:53
  He has some fun with them. Yeah.
• 48:55
  Because he flipped this. Door closed, sign around.
• 48:58
  And at one point, like this mom and her son come by, and he's
• 49:00
  like posed with others, like animatronic clowns, holding the
• 49:04
  head. It's funny like he gets the
• 49:06
  reaction and he's like over it, like he rolls his eyes and just
• 49:09
  tosses a hey, sorry about the show them.
• 49:10
  I'm moving on. Except this time when he tossed
• 49:12
  a head, he didn't hit a trike. So Santa is discussing all of
• 49:18
  her concerns with Ali at the store as they're buying candy
• 49:21
  and Ally. She responds with good
• 49:25
  intentions but I don't think she knows.
• 49:26
  Rarely does it the right way. Like she's trying to like give
• 49:29
  her rational reasons for these spooky things to help seeing and
• 49:33
  not feel as creeped out except she's doing it in kind of a
• 49:36
  patronising way, like she's invalidating siena's.
• 49:40
  Feelings about it. Yeah.
• 49:41
  And I think that just comes from them being like 17 and also she
• 49:45
  didn't see what all went down. Yeah.
• 49:47
  I guess it's very he very much targeted her.
• 49:50
  Yeah. So Jonathan has gotten home.
• 49:54
  He's been brought home by a truant officer.
• 49:56
  Sir and Barbara's fucking pissed Siena gets home, and Jonathan is
• 50:02
  like talking about seeing art at the school, and then he pulls
• 50:08
  out their father's missing Sketchbook.
• 50:11
  And she was like, what the fuck, how long have you had this?
• 50:13
  And he's like, but look at all these sketches and it's sketches
• 50:15
  from the first movie and then, eventually a sketch of Siena
• 50:18
  holding Arts head. I like how all of these like
• 50:21
  these are well done sketches of scenes from the movie.
• 50:23
  And then it gets to see Anna's cosplay and it's kind of Not it.
• 50:27
  The quality is not quite as up to par, but so I guess like the
• 50:33
  impression here is like, the dad has some kind of knowledge of
• 50:38
  what's Happening. He drew this shit out that
• 50:39
  played out last year. He's predicted Sienna being in
• 50:43
  this costume and he drew Arts face.
• 50:46
  So there's something weird going on with that.
• 50:48
  Yeah. And that's why I'm Barbara comes
• 50:51
  upstairs and I was like, oh, did your brother not tell you what
• 50:55
  he did? And when she feels her hand and
• 50:57
  then CNN, like his flip, the script on her mom, she's like,
• 51:01
  well, I don't know. Maybe he's onto something and
• 51:04
  she was like last night, you told me he was going to be an Ax
• 51:06
  Murderer and now you're on his side at Ali's house.
• 51:10
  She's answering trick-or-treaters.
• 51:12
  One of them happens to be art and she was like, sorry, no
• 51:14
  candy for grown ups. Which I just give him some
• 51:17
  fucking candy. Anyway.
• 51:19
  Like your we've had this discussion.
• 51:23
  Yeah, you're like I don't care. Yeah.
• 51:26
  Fully give adults candy. I don't know.
• 51:28
  Wine with a lie here. I'm like if you're a full-blown
• 51:31
  adult. No.
• 51:34
  But he keeps insisting keeps knocking on the door and then
• 51:37
  fine. No, she doesn't say fine.
• 51:40
  She says, so you're telling me if I give you candy, you'll go
• 51:45
  away. And I'm like, yeah, Ali.
• 51:49
  That's what trick or treating is.
• 51:51
  Yeah. She throws some candy in the bag
• 51:53
  and then she gets a glance of what's in there and she sees all
• 51:56
  these He's like weapons and sharp objects may be super
• 51:59
  unsettled. Also, you get that shot of like
• 52:01
  the black van parked off to the side and the pale girl is just
• 52:05
  kind of like her. She's got the glowing guys and
• 52:07
  she's just like staring Dead Ahead like weird.
• 52:11
  Like she's like I'm kind of trance, it's really creepy a
• 52:14
  fucking love these shots with her and at some point we found
• 52:16
  out that she is this little girl that was killed at the old
• 52:19
  Carnival the year before. Yeah, I'm wondering what that's
• 52:22
  about. Yeah, there's good.
• 52:23
  There's gonna be more with that. There's yeah I'm that's what I'm
• 52:26
  In forward to in the third one, this connection of how some of
• 52:29
  the victims wind up being like, it's all right side Carnival.
• 52:33
  Yeah, it is what it is. No.
• 52:35
  Because Vicki is like obsessed with art to, but she seems to go
• 52:38
  in and out of it. That's true.
• 52:40
  But the whole point they led her to the carnival.
• 52:43
  Yeah, it was intentional. Yeah, something there.
• 52:45
  Yes, the clown cafes actually. So we have a getting ready
• 52:50
  Montage of Siena putting on her like Angel heroin.
• 52:56
  And whatever costume and Ally getting ready quietly in her
• 53:01
  house. She looks like sad and freaked
• 53:04
  out from the get. All right.
• 53:06
  Like I was already ready to not have a good time.
• 53:09
  Yeah. I feel so bad for how is she,
• 53:11
  she's probably the most sympathetic character in this
• 53:13
  movie. And this is okay.
• 53:15
  So I, if you follow us on social media, I've tweeted several
• 53:19
  times about having various art nightmares since watching this
• 53:25
  movie, And the thing is, I have been freaked out about art since
• 53:32
  All Hallows Eve, his segments, and his little wrap around
• 53:36
  section, she scared the shit out of me, and this scene in
• 53:41
  particular, I think is one that gets me cuz he just bust, like,
• 53:45
  she has all of her door is locked.
• 53:46
  She's doing the right things, but he bust through the door
• 53:49
  downstairs, and she goes down there, sees him and she runs.
• 53:53
  And he just catches her and she can't like these are Are the
• 53:56
  types of nightmares? I have where it's just like
• 53:59
  somebody breaking in and you try and run and you can't get the
• 54:02
  door shut fast enough. It is repeatedly and ever since
• 54:06
  this movie came out, it tends to be art the fucking clown.
• 54:10
  That's attacking me. And yes, if you're curious, I
• 54:12
  did have another nightmare. Last, I did, too.
• 54:16
  Yeah. We watch this right before we
• 54:18
  fell asleep last night? Yeah, and the thing is like,
• 54:22
  this is where I think he's such an effective new character
• 54:25
  because he is just Fucking scary.
• 54:27
  He doesn't stop his brutal. And David Howard Thornton had
• 54:31
  like brings an intense physicality to the role, and
• 54:36
  this scene is just brutal because he just he stabs her.
• 54:40
  He pulls her arm apart, he pulls her other arm off.
• 54:43
  He's got her. He slices her eyes.
• 54:46
  I've got the list here. I wrote down from start to
• 54:49
  finish what all happens to her, so it starts off with that down
• 54:52
  in the kitchen, he Bustin starts chasing her.
• 54:55
  Grabs her in her room. Umm, so it's her eye vertically.
• 54:58
  First off, that's fucking gnarly.
• 55:00
  That is like, they do a great job they show at all.
• 55:03
  It's, if you hate, I stuff, like, I do that.
• 55:08
  So, following that scalp sir after that, that's when he
• 55:13
  starts cutting, upper back and starts stabbing the shit out of
• 55:15
  it after that, breaks and rips off her arm at the elbow at the
• 55:21
  elbow. Next up takes her other arm
• 55:25
  grabs. The hand.
• 55:26
  Splits it in half then continues splashing, her stops goes
• 55:32
  downstairs. Grab some salt and bleach she's
• 55:35
  crawling to her phone at this point.
• 55:37
  By the way, I like seeing this right here, we saw how all of
• 55:41
  this was filmed and I was wondering how they got her
• 55:44
  because she's like, in her underwear here and I was
• 55:47
  wondering how they managed to hide her arm because like she's
• 55:50
  got that one armor like damn, like I get looked believable,
• 55:53
  she had it behind her back and they said, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:56
  They had a thing or on it so that way, they could edit her
• 55:58
  arm. It was really good.
• 56:00
  Yeah, yeah. So he's back up there.
• 56:02
  Got salt and bleach rubs it all over her and then he grabs her
• 56:06
  face and then rips half of it off.
• 56:09
  Yeah. And then we'll just go ahead and
• 56:11
  finish up her part because her mom comes home first thing.
• 56:15
  She says, have you been handing out any candy Ali?
• 56:18
  Like immediately? I like not even a hello.
• 56:21
  I can't ride. No Sue and then she sees that
• 56:24
  the door is busted open in the kitchen.
• 56:26
  And she immediately runs up to her daughter's room.
• 56:28
  Sees her daughter all of that damage, plus, like, a lot of
• 56:32
  cuts skin stripped from her plate.
• 56:36
  Yeah. And there's not completely,
• 56:38
  well, not completely but, like all over her body.
• 56:40
  Yeah. Just drama everywhere.
• 56:42
  And I was surprised to learn that.
• 56:44
  That was an animatronic. I thought that it was actually
• 56:47
  her because it looks like her. Yeah.
• 56:48
  And then she like opens her eyes and says, mom.
• 56:51
  And then her mom is like screaming and saying no.
• 56:53
  And then the next time we see this house, it's art and During
• 56:56
  the door for trick-or-treaters and he has cut off the mom's
• 56:59
  head. Cut off the top of her skull and
• 57:03
  filled it with candy. Yeah.
• 57:05
  And they showed the behind the scenes with this, or they're
• 57:07
  filling the mold with candy in one of the crew members kitchen,
• 57:11
  and they're like his wives. Got on being back at, guys, been
• 57:14
  with them from the very beginning.
• 57:16
  That's his cameraman. His name is George and his wife
• 57:19
  is like, I'm getting divorced. He's got a Jersey accent and I
• 57:24
  like how art is also, like, very Strict with the rules to like
• 57:28
  the kid tries to get more and he likes lapses.
• 57:29
  Yeah. Why not?
• 57:30
  Yeah. That's like a woman.
• 57:33
  It's funny. All right, we got some classic
• 57:37
  Night of the Living Dead footage because it's a horror movie and
• 57:40
  yeah they gotta have that moment to where Barbara like it's Barb.
• 57:44
  Yeah yeah and she like she's shocked at Santa's costume.
• 57:51
  She's like it's very revealing. She goes well you knew what the
• 57:54
  costume was and I was designing. She goes.
• 57:55
  Yeah. But seeing it on you is
• 57:58
  different. She was like, you did a really
• 58:01
  good job. I just, you know, wasn't
• 58:04
  prepared for this. Yeah.
• 58:06
  And then seems like okay. Bye.
• 58:07
  Love you. How people dress these days.
• 58:10
  So just fucking get with the times Barb Barbara.
• 58:14
  So she gets into her Uber and Barbara tries to invite Jonathan
• 58:19
  to watch a movie. And he's like, nah
• 58:21
  understandably man. If I were Jonathan, I would not
• 58:23
  want to hang out with her either.
• 58:25
  I mean he's Also 12 and Moody and he's in trouble.
• 58:28
  So it has again. I think the interactions in this
• 58:32
  movie are realistic realistic but you know yeah.
• 58:35
  All these people are kind of. It's a very complicated.
• 58:38
  Yes Wishin going on here. Yes, so at the party CNN Brooke
• 58:43
  are getting drinks and shots. Weirdly they don't do them at
• 58:47
  the bar into the dance floor. Yeah, I pay attention this time.
• 58:51
  I think that it was plastic cups, which makes more sense,
• 58:55
  but still not. Not enough but still not.
• 58:57
  Yeah. Like the only time you take
• 58:59
  shots away from the bars of like going to friends.
• 59:01
  Yeah. Like you're at the bar and
• 59:03
  you're like can I get two shots and then you bring one over to
• 59:06
  me? Yeah.
• 59:06
  But if we're both at the bar like know you psychopath, we're
• 59:10
  going to do the shot right here. Yeah.
• 59:13
  Yeah. And Santa's like haven't heard
• 59:16
  from a lie, that's not like her and Brooks like quit being a
• 59:19
  fight back. I can't fucking stand Brooke,
• 59:22
  she drives me crazy and then Jeff shows up and he's just Bag.
• 59:26
  That's just wearing a dumb shirt and calling it.
• 59:28
  A costumes. The tip, get it.
• 59:32
  It's a penis joke. Yeah.
• 59:34
  So they're having fun. See, you know, starts to lighten
• 59:37
  up and she's dancing and having a good time Barbara and Jonathan
• 59:42
  like, really get into it, dude. Meanwhile like yeah, it's so
• 59:49
  they bring up the book. She starts tearing up the
• 59:52
  Sketchbook. That's fucking bad.
• 59:55
  Like that's like a Thing to memory like to remember the dad.
• 59:58
  Yeah that that was. I feel like a moment that she
• 1:00:02
  did at the height of emotion and is going to well if she didn't
• 1:00:06
  get her head, shot open later. Like she would come to regret,
• 1:00:10
  you know what I mean? And not only I mean this is the
• 1:00:12
  same scene where she smacks him to.
• 1:00:14
  Yeah. So he calls her a fucking bitch
• 1:00:17
  and then he leaves the house. Yeah, he runs away.
• 1:00:20
  You know, every single scene with him running I can tell that
• 1:00:23
  like, he's just starting up running like a Music could start
• 1:00:28
  of motion. It's just so obvious to me every
• 1:00:31
  Six Million Dollar Man. Kids Too Tall.
• 1:00:34
  The tallest boy, he's a Yankee boy.
• 1:00:38
  So Barbara is having a moment. She takes way too many pills and
• 1:00:44
  gobbles them down with two glasses of wine.
• 1:00:47
  When I wrote that, she's having a mom and blood rage drinking
• 1:00:50
  night here because she's like, this is how the mom copes with
• 1:00:53
  her bad son. Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Just total she yeah, just same energy.
• 1:00:58
  She hears the sound. So she goes out to the garage
• 1:01:01
  and her car is fucked up to the point that like she shouldn't
• 1:01:06
  immediately. Like I get why she immediately
• 1:01:09
  assumed to Jonathan because it is.
• 1:01:11
  Yeah, on the windshield. I'm shaving cream.
• 1:01:13
  I appreciated that. All of the letters were Capital
• 1:01:15
  except for the eye. Yeah, it had a little dot over
• 1:01:18
  it. It was a nice touch.
• 1:01:20
  Yeah, so she is like screaming, cussing chic.
• 1:01:26
  I'll Sienna. This is.
• 1:01:28
  Again, one of those moments that like I, I can tell she is not
• 1:01:32
  handling everything that has happened with her husband and
• 1:01:35
  the implosion of her family. She does not have an adult
• 1:01:38
  person to talk to and is turning to her daughter because her
• 1:01:41
  daughter has become a confidant in a way.
• 1:01:43
  That is there. They have some codependency
• 1:01:47
  going on. Yeah, it seems that way, I we
• 1:01:49
  don't really get the age of Siena.
• 1:01:52
  I get the impression. She's a senior, probably she's
• 1:01:55
  old enough to drive. Yeah, we know that much so I
• 1:01:58
  clock her around like 17, probably that feels, right.
• 1:02:02
  And while all of this has been going on, we've also been
• 1:02:04
  getting shots of the party. I fucking called it in the
• 1:02:07
  theater. I was like, she's not drunk,
• 1:02:09
  she's tripping, and they will get the reveal.
• 1:02:11
  That Brooke is like, by the way I slipped you some Molly.
• 1:02:14
  Well, and Brooke does it. So, like Sienna is having a
• 1:02:17
  moment where she's just like it's just nice to finally relax.
• 1:02:20
  You are right. Like you know I've had all of
• 1:02:22
  this stuff going on and like she starts to actually open up which
• 1:02:25
  has been an I Goin think that she's not very open.
• 1:02:28
  She's been bottling things up. Especially since her dad died,
• 1:02:31
  and she starts to actually open up to Broken Bricks.
• 1:02:33
  Like, by the way, you're on Molly.
• 1:02:35
  This is why you feel this way, Luke.
• 1:02:36
  She's like, I don't want to hit your emotions.
• 1:02:37
  This is what's happening. This was like, a really reaction
• 1:02:41
  to, because this is like what happens with that you fucking
• 1:02:44
  bitch. I don't know, I'm sure it's told
• 1:02:47
  you about this but like Bert Kreischer, he got slipped Molly,
• 1:02:51
  by some asshole comedian cheese, and it was on a podcast.
• 1:02:55
  And like, His he didn't know about it and then he was like in
• 1:03:00
  the moment he's like I should be mad at you but like I'm on
• 1:03:02
  Molly. I can't be mad at you right now.
• 1:03:04
  So she's you know that she's just reacting as somebody on
• 1:03:08
  Molly. She gets mad at her later for
• 1:03:09
  it. Yeah so they go out back out to
• 1:03:12
  the dance floor and they're dancing and having a good time
• 1:03:15
  but Sienna is seeing flashes a little pale girl and she has a
• 1:03:19
  panic attack. Yeah cut to Jonathan seeing the
• 1:03:23
  van with a little pale girl in it so he goes running.
• 1:03:26
  Comb. This is the moment where I
• 1:03:27
  started writing him in my notes, as j-man.
• 1:03:30
  Okay. I just I just started
• 1:03:32
  abbreviating it to Jake because I was just like that.
• 1:03:34
  His name is too long. All the other names are
• 1:03:36
  generally short enough, but Jonathan was just too many and I
• 1:03:38
  hate, there's like five different ways to spell Jonathan
• 1:03:40
  and it's like the name. Brittany, like I switch it up
• 1:03:43
  between Jamie and J-Dog. Okay, see ya.
• 1:03:47
  So Barbara's cleaning the car and she, you know, she had been
• 1:03:52
  talking to see it on the phone. She goes t on, are you fucked
• 1:03:54
  up? I did It agreed to know before
• 1:03:59
  and Sienna at least gets to have like, this - More.
• 1:04:02
  She's just, like, I really love you, mom.
• 1:04:03
  Like I just want you to know that.
• 1:04:04
  So, her mom did not deserve this in this moment cause her mom's
• 1:04:08
  just like pissed off and yelling at Siena.
• 1:04:11
  And then she hitting on Jonathan.
• 1:04:12
  She's like I love you. I fucking love you because she's
• 1:04:14
  on Molly and then that actually gets the mom to change her tune.
• 1:04:17
  She's like I love you to just have a good time.
• 1:04:20
  Be safe, and then she goes back to cleaning and she clears off
• 1:04:23
  the driver's side window art. There and he just fucking
• 1:04:28
  blasts. Her head fucking shot and this
• 1:04:32
  is a practical effect and it was mold of her head filled with
• 1:04:35
  like goat brains and fake blood. Condoms filled with fake blood
• 1:04:42
  and is some a condom in there when they zoomed in on the
• 1:04:45
  aftermath like I am there to this.
• 1:04:47
  Yes. So Jonathan starts up his
• 1:04:49
  running, the scene and then he notices the black van and he
• 1:04:53
  sees the pale girl in there with her glowing eyes.
• 1:04:56
  So he runs back home. And when he gets home, he sees
• 1:04:59
  his mom at the dinner, table with her head, hanging open wide
• 1:05:03
  open. And this is where art walks in
• 1:05:06
  and the apron holding the little ceramic dish of this so much.
• 1:05:10
  This is inventive right here and he just starts shoving, mashed
• 1:05:13
  potatoes, and her open void, where a face used to be.
• 1:05:19
  It's just, it's so mean, it is. So me I just to Barbara, it's
• 1:05:24
  mean to Jonathan. Like you were saying before I
• 1:05:27
  love how he's just got the apron me like ringing sibelius.
• 1:05:29
  Like it's dinner time and then you just shove some like mashed
• 1:05:31
  potatoes interface. I don't know how I'd react to
• 1:05:34
  something like that. Did the patates already exist or
• 1:05:38
  did our make them for this moment?
• 1:05:40
  I like to think he made instant mashed potatoes.
• 1:05:42
  He found a pack in there and he made him know.
• 1:05:46
  He's wearing the apron, he's a stickler for the one piece of
• 1:05:48
  candy per child rule. He definitely chopped up some
• 1:05:51
  potatoes. Boiled them mashed.
• 1:05:54
  Mm measured out the cream. Ram is only daughter.
• 1:05:57
  Yeah. Like he's riding them.
• 1:05:59
  Yeah. Like it was disrespectful but at
• 1:06:02
  least like she got well-seasoned potatoes mashed.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah, that's the bright side. So now, that's we need to ask
• 1:06:10
  David Howard Thornton that at scarefest this year like hey
• 1:06:14
  where are these leftover mashed potatoes or did Art make the
• 1:06:17
  mashed potatoes? Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  I want an answer because like yeah I imagine Damien's going to
• 1:06:21
  be there next time it won't be a need you guys both.
• 1:06:23
  Yeah yeah yeah there's a we have our own Theory but we want to
• 1:06:26
  hear What your all's idea and characterization is.
• 1:06:28
  Yeah this is like the real question is, how did have a fuck
• 1:06:31
  about the backstory? The supernatural?
• 1:06:32
  Shit, where the potatoes handmade?
• 1:06:35
  What is the petite situate? Yeah, please let me know.
• 1:06:40
  We need to know the people need to know.
• 1:06:43
  Alright, so Jonathan freaks, out starts running upstairs.
• 1:06:46
  I would not go upstairs, run out the house, but he panics and I
• 1:06:49
  guess just makes a dumb decision.
• 1:06:50
  It's like Sidney. Prescott said, yeah, you know, I
• 1:06:53
  don't think about it sometimes. Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Alright, get some in. Shoot.
• 1:06:56
  Some up with a wrench knocks amount.
• 1:06:59
  Yep. So in the car, Jeff's boyfriend,
• 1:07:02
  Brooke, I'm guarantee he's not sober, he's driving seem sober.
• 1:07:07
  He is somebody that keeps Q cane in his welfare department.
• 1:07:12
  They is also bird up. It seems at this point because
• 1:07:15
  they like you don't come down from Molly that fast.
• 1:07:18
  So Brooke is like mad and Jeff doesn't know the whole situation
• 1:07:23
  and Brooke is trying to like justify.
• 1:07:25
  She's like I'm It too. It's a teeny tiny little pinch.
• 1:07:28
  It was not enough and I didn't know she was already on Xanax.
• 1:07:32
  Yeah. Right.
• 1:07:32
  Like, that's why you don't do this shit.
• 1:07:35
  I mean, that's not a reason why? But that's like one of the one
• 1:07:38
  of the reasons. Yeah, that's like why when you
• 1:07:41
  go to the ER there like you have to be honest about your drug use
• 1:07:44
  because certain drugs, we will give you can be will kill you if
• 1:07:48
  they are mixed with other drugs. Yeah.
• 1:07:50
  And she gets a text or a know a call from Jonathan except it's
• 1:07:55
  not really Jonathan. It A little pale girl,
• 1:07:57
  Philippine mimic voices? Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  So that's a fun trick try and everybody says like I'm at the
• 1:08:02
  carnival please come, pick me up.
• 1:08:04
  Yeah, Eric and Sean left me here and Jeff is like, it's not that
• 1:08:08
  far away. I'll go ahead and stop and I
• 1:08:10
  kind of like Jeff is cool. Yeah, he does cocaine but
• 1:08:14
  whatever that doesn't make you a bad person like he's actually
• 1:08:16
  he's got a shitty girlfriend and he's like, actually he's like
• 1:08:19
  it's fine, I'll take her, there will be will be cool.
• 1:08:22
  Yeah, so there he's not coming out.
• 1:08:26
  Like they're waiting by the front gate which is where Santa
• 1:08:28
  told him to meet her and he's not there so she ends up getting
• 1:08:31
  out and broke like I was like no way it's not so they start
• 1:08:37
  making out but not before broke it was like by the way I did
• 1:08:40
  know that she was on Xanax because her dad developed a
• 1:08:42
  brain tumor got really abusive to her and then killed himself
• 1:08:46
  last year. Yeah, this is new information.
• 1:08:48
  Yeah, just nowhere drops all that.
• 1:08:50
  And then Jeff goes. Well I've only known your friend
• 1:08:52
  for a little bit of time, but that explains a lot like this is
• 1:08:55
  also where they start to Talking about the pail girl that I do
• 1:08:58
  the colonel isn't that way? Like the kid got killed a year
• 1:09:00
  ago and yeah we go. There's something there.
• 1:09:04
  I'm curious to know what all is going on with that.
• 1:09:06
  Yeah. But uh Sienna text.
• 1:09:09
  Jonathan not getting an answer. So she decides to go look for
• 1:09:11
  him herself. Yeah.
• 1:09:13
  And no she she gets an answer saying like next to the terror.
• 1:09:16
  I'm stuck at the terrifying. Yeah.
• 1:09:18
  So Jeff is like I gotta pee pee. I like that.
• 1:09:22
  He said, I've got a pee-pee. Yeah, I already predict for that
• 1:09:25
  line. On his going to be rebooted you
• 1:09:27
  relate to got a couple people. I can relate to that hard
• 1:09:31
  because you do say that. But yeah, so he goes outside and
• 1:09:40
  now I'm his shirt is correct. Just the tip.
• 1:09:43
  That's the reason why they have that shirt on him for sure.
• 1:09:45
  Yes. Is tip.
• 1:09:46
  Cut off and he gets his peepee you stabbed a lot.
• 1:09:50
  Apparently they wanted to do like lot more with his penis.
• 1:09:53
  So this is one of the ones where they said, no.
• 1:09:56
  What they wanted to do was they wanted to take his penis and
• 1:09:58
  blow it up like a balloon animal.
• 1:10:01
  I really wish they had. They were like, no, that's too
• 1:10:04
  much that might have warranted an X rating at that point.
• 1:10:08
  Like, they're getting away with all this other shit.
• 1:10:10
  It's like, if you blow up a PP, you might be taking a little bit
• 1:10:14
  too far. But then, again, they had like
• 1:10:17
  up at the crack of dawn last time, and that's like beer
• 1:10:20
  that's genital trauma for another, that's what I'm
• 1:10:23
  tendering. Like, it's very much rooted in
• 1:10:25
  like me. Misogyny.
• 1:10:26
  How those rules play, did get his peepee cut off.
• 1:10:29
  I know. I just, you know, I wish we'd
• 1:10:31
  gotten penis balloon animal and like a repeatedly stabbed like
• 1:10:35
  what animal do you think it would have been?
• 1:10:38
  It's got to be the like a little, like cow.
• 1:10:42
  I've never seen a balloon cow. He's gonna do it.
• 1:10:46
  He's going to make it happy. It's all I can imagine.
• 1:10:49
  He would have done multiple animals like he would have been
• 1:10:51
  like those street performers that like just read us.
• 1:10:54
  Yeah, he would have fun with it that, you know it, if you let
• 1:10:57
  him blow up that, I like just have that as a toy.
• 1:11:00
  That's like the tricycle from the first movie, he's like,
• 1:11:02
  distract that. He's moving on.
• 1:11:03
  He's not even caring about something like that and stitches
• 1:11:06
  where he like does. It's like intestines though, you
• 1:11:09
  might be right. We've only watch stitches one
• 1:11:11
  time so I don't remember. Well, what about that movie?
• 1:11:13
  Because it was a while ago, we need to watch that gun.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah, anyway. Brooke.
• 1:11:18
  Runs she does get stabbed in the leg.
• 1:11:21
  So sure, her running is not super fast, but she ends up
• 1:11:24
  making it into the poop room because art made sure that he
• 1:11:27
  pooped up a room. Real good like that.
• 1:11:29
  He for people got their art was here.
• 1:11:31
  Yes, he's a nice touch. Well, he didn't want anybody to
• 1:11:34
  think it was Ramones because not Ramon, Ramon didn't do this.
• 1:11:38
  I keep forgetting our patreon. Episode was a patreon episode
• 1:11:41
  ends a lot. We're gonna be like, when did
• 1:11:43
  they decide Ramon? We recorded this back to bag.
• 1:11:46
  It wasn't just to catch you guys up, Ramon shaddap the rats
• 1:11:50
  Travis's as I can Theory. Yeah.
• 1:11:53
  He shot up the bathroom and Tara fire one and that's why our had
• 1:11:57
  to poop on the wall because the toilet was covered in Ramones.
• 1:11:59
  Yeah. You guys and that's why Steve
• 1:12:03
  didn't feel guilty making Ramon clean the bathroom.
• 1:12:06
  Yeah, so our ends up catching up to Brooke and he's got like
• 1:12:11
  this. Club in his hand.
• 1:12:13
  It's like a the leg from a bed frame and it's got a bunch of
• 1:12:16
  like nasty shit, no. Need for this came from.
• 1:12:19
  Well that's what he was building.
• 1:12:21
  Oh okay. And she's like please don't come
• 1:12:23
  near me. Please don't come near me.
• 1:12:24
  So he technically listens and instead throws acid on her face.
• 1:12:29
  Yeah. And then while she's dying he
• 1:12:31
  beats her chest apart. Yeah, just starts swimming.
• 1:12:35
  It's nasty Sienna is inside the Tara fire.
• 1:12:40
  Now looking for John. Yeah, I am impressed that these
• 1:12:45
  rides and attractions are still operating because it sounds like
• 1:12:48
  this place. Has been abandoned for a year.
• 1:12:50
  I don't know. Maybe it's like part of the
• 1:12:52
  demon energy though. It could be.
• 1:12:53
  Yeah. And I mean like in the behind
• 1:12:56
  the scenes Damien was referring to a lot of like characters and
• 1:13:00
  Extras as demons, like, the yam Cafe stuff, he was like, when
• 1:13:03
  you open your eyes on this water tank, you're going to see the
• 1:13:05
  demons and the demons in the demons.
• 1:13:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:13:08
  And you also mentioned tentacles suicide, where the fuck were
• 1:13:11
  tentacles and then Tinker like I know that now I never saw the
• 1:13:14
  timid. I didn't know what was
• 1:13:25
  happening. Yeah.
• 1:13:27
  So she she finds art standing with Jonathan.
• 1:13:31
  This is I'm just gonna look there is a lot of back and forth
• 1:13:37
  and hitting and striking of the heads and various Eating in,
• 1:13:42
  kites it's a lot of this for the next 30 minutes, just hit the
• 1:13:46
  highlights. So he does he's there.
• 1:13:49
  And then he has been attacking Jonathan.
• 1:13:52
  He's got his school key chain whip.
• 1:13:54
  Yeah, he had in the first movie, that makes return Deanna
• 1:13:57
  protects him at one point and it like is tearing her wings apart.
• 1:14:01
  I'm very surprised that they them brutalized this kid as much
• 1:14:05
  as they do in this movie, because he gets like the shit
• 1:14:08
  beat out of him with this thing for a long time.
• 1:14:11
  But it's Really yeah. So like she'll like stop him.
• 1:14:14
  Hit him, they run away, he comes back and then hits them and then
• 1:14:18
  it's just like rinse and repeat. Yeah.
• 1:14:20
  At one point Sienna like is fading out and she hears her mom
• 1:14:24
  and sees her mom and she's like I thought I was never going to
• 1:14:26
  see you again as she goes. Oh so Jonathan told him she
• 1:14:29
  goes, wait what? And it's actually a little pale
• 1:14:31
  girl and this is how she learned that her mom is dead.
• 1:14:34
  So it's not it's not like Jonathan was withholding the
• 1:14:36
  information. He just you know hadn't had a
• 1:14:38
  chance to really like he's been busy getting hit.
• 1:14:41
  Ya like He's not a good time to talk about it.
• 1:14:44
  Yeah. And then, our ends up pushing
• 1:14:45
  her into a basement. And then he follows her into the
• 1:14:47
  basement, and pushes her into a tank of water that goes down to
• 1:14:51
  some sort of Hell Dimension, where the clown Cafe actually.
• 1:14:53
  It's stabbing her with the man. Yeah, stabbing her with her own
• 1:14:56
  sword. He drops it down into.
• 1:14:59
  Does he drop now? He drops it, right?
• 1:15:00
  Yeah, he just leaves it on the ground.
• 1:15:03
  So she's like coming to in the water tank and she eventually
• 1:15:08
  drowns, but then she comes back to life because she's got like
• 1:15:10
  the same Magic. That these demon people have.
• 1:15:13
  But just sort of the sword lights up and her tummy lights
• 1:15:17
  up, it doesn't heal her completely only heals that gut
• 1:15:20
  wound. That's the only thing that's
• 1:15:22
  what that was. This is nine lives rules.
• 1:15:26
  Yeah, she was about to die. Yeah, tell me, sobs are fatal.
• 1:15:29
  So she ends up getting out, which is good because Jonathan
• 1:15:33
  is being chewed alive. Yeah.
• 1:15:35
  He's like, actually eating him like it's nice to see that
• 1:15:38
  return of Jesus Christ. Like, would you say wonder if
• 1:15:40
  Jonathan's going to like Part of Arts, like group in the next
• 1:15:45
  one, because that seems to be. It felt like the intention
• 1:15:47
  because he took the, he didn't just kill him, he drugged him,
• 1:15:51
  and dragged him to this place. And then he was trying to wake
• 1:15:54
  him up. He's like, hey, like we got
• 1:15:55
  something to do here and then basically he's like, all right,
• 1:15:58
  well if you're not going to be up for a little bit I guess I'll
• 1:16:00
  snack on you for a little bit and wait.
• 1:16:02
  Yeah yeah and so she comes up there and she ends up beheading
• 1:16:07
  art and they're about to leave. But oh yeah we've all forgotten
• 1:16:10
  about little pale girl. She comes up. 60 Parts head
• 1:16:13
  listens to it laughs. Cradles it walks away?
• 1:16:16
  Yeah and then we go to credits but then mid-credits it is like
• 1:16:20
  oh and the best forgot about that with credit.
• 1:16:22
  Yeah remember with Chris Jericho here we are.
• 1:16:27
  It is MI County Psychiatric Hospital.
• 1:16:30
  Vicky is in her room puking Jericho.
• 1:16:34
  It's pumpkin spice, lattes not wife, made zombie platter made a
• 1:16:37
  zombie platter, but I'm not going to get my own food nurse.
• 1:16:41
  You get it for me. Chris Jericho's, like I will be
• 1:16:44
  in the movie but I will not stand up.
• 1:16:46
  Yeah, I will say, on the streets, it right here.
• 1:16:49
  I like to think that they gave him the shirt, but they didn't
• 1:16:51
  have the budget for pants. Yeah.
• 1:16:54
  And he was like, I will wear my sweats and I just won't see.
• 1:16:56
  You don't know, we have a very Max time RuPaul at judging like
• 1:17:01
  we don't have two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and
• 1:17:04
  twelve dollars Chris, we got 250,000.
• 1:17:07
  He's a wrestler. He might need like special big
• 1:17:09
  boy pants. Probably those yeah so But yeah,
• 1:17:13
  the nurse is talking about. She's like I feel sick from
• 1:17:15
  looking at Vicky's face and I'm just like, why are all of the
• 1:17:18
  people in this in this franchise bitches about Vicky's face?
• 1:17:22
  I know, and then but she's like, yeah, she's super nice.
• 1:17:24
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:17:25
  She's real nice. She's real sweet.
• 1:17:27
  And then she starts thinking the clown Cafe songs.
• 1:17:29
  Apparently Vicki's been singing that all day because to Vicki,
• 1:17:32
  she's bleeding and she is writing on the walls, on her
• 1:17:36
  blood Vicki plus are in a heart. Yeah.
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  So that's weird and it again. Because like at the hospital
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  before she was released, they said that she was a great
• 1:17:46
  patient and then she goes on this interview and attacks
• 1:17:48
  Monica. And then here today, the nurse
• 1:17:50
  was like, oh she's a great patient.
• 1:17:52
  But now she's saying Vicky plus art and she is written various
• 1:17:56
  other misogynistic, slurs all over the wall and then she gives
• 1:18:00
  birth to Arts head. This is strange.
• 1:18:03
  I'm curious. And from what Damien was saying
• 1:18:07
  in his whole interview in the bonus things, this is like a new
• 1:18:10
  ending. This was your original plan.
• 1:18:12
  And he's like, after I wrote that, that changed the course of
• 1:18:15
  where I'm taking this series, and I'm wondering what the fuck
• 1:18:17
  does this mean? Yeah, but yeah, I'm curious, I'm
• 1:18:21
  curious, I'm curious. I like how this movie set a
• 1:18:25
  world built a lot and it's set up the stage for them to like
• 1:18:29
  have an interesting little Series going on here.
• 1:18:32
  I'm really curious to see where they take this.
• 1:18:34
  Yes, I think they did a lot of World building here.
• 1:18:37
  They created some mystery and Intrigue.
• 1:18:40
  They there's a A lot of stuff going on that.
• 1:18:43
  I am excited to see explored. Yeah, and I'm going to keep my
• 1:18:46
  rating as is 9.5. I'm going and I'm 52.
• 1:18:49
  Okay, 15. All right, so our average one
• 1:18:52
  up. So that's nice.
• 1:18:55
  Talia was very worried at the beginning of the film.
• 1:18:59
  Like she was alarmed by the sounds and the things that were
• 1:19:01
  happening. And she was looking at me and
• 1:19:03
  she's, like, you have nightmares and I constantly have to wake
• 1:19:05
  you up from them. Please don't do this.
• 1:19:07
  Yeah, I don't watch two of these movies.
• 1:19:08
  And then I was like, tally, I have to watch this movie and she
• 1:19:11
  was like, well, I I'm going to sleep so that way I can be on
• 1:19:14
  nightmare Duty and she really did wake me up several times
• 1:19:16
  last night because she was, like, what did she?
• 1:19:18
  Yeah. Like I kept getting woken up by
• 1:19:20
  her like, you know, she'll like move around show, like, lay on
• 1:19:24
  my feet and wake me up. And, and that is a thing, like
• 1:19:27
  dogs do sense when you're having oh yeah.
• 1:19:28
  Definitely. Yeah.
• 1:19:30
  She's in a lot of ways. She's a therapy dog for me with
• 1:19:33
  that because I'm prone to just nightmares and sleep paralysis.
• 1:19:36
  I have in my whole life. So yeah.
• 1:19:39
  So I think tally gives us an idea.
• 1:19:42
  And like she didn't watch the whole thing but she respected
• 1:19:47
  that it was going to be really scary and she was like more
• 1:19:49
  concerned about our emotional well-being.
• 1:19:51
  So she was like, I'm gonna take a nap and I'll catch up on it
• 1:19:54
  later. Okay.
• 1:19:55
  Zoe, she watched it? Yeah, she was with us like she
• 1:19:59
  came up and flopped up next to me cuz I was taking notes.
• 1:20:02
  Normally, she does this real cute thing where she walks up to
• 1:20:05
  me, and she like, kind of tap my leg to let me know.
• 1:20:08
  She wants to be on my lap, but I had my binder on my lap so I
• 1:20:11
  could take notes and so She just kind of flopped it like, laid
• 1:20:13
  her head on my leg just laying up against you.
• 1:20:15
  Yeah, and then, you know, when she wasn't like, laying up on
• 1:20:18
  the couch with us, she was laying on the dog bed.
• 1:20:20
  So, I think the only part was near the end, she went to the
• 1:20:22
  kitchen. Do you have anything that you
• 1:20:25
  would change? Probably again, just like,
• 1:20:27
  trimming down some of the length of it, it does get like mean in
• 1:20:31
  a way that stops being fun to watch.
• 1:20:34
  I don't mind the meanness of it. I just think that it just
• 1:20:36
  happens like too much of the same stuff happens at the end.
• 1:20:39
  I've waited cause that last night was like, 40 minutes are
• 1:20:41
  left in the This is the end of the movie there in the warehouse
• 1:20:44
  at the carnival. Yeah, it was only art Sienna and
• 1:20:49
  Jonathan left. Yeah.
• 1:20:50
  That was a, that's it. And that's so much of the maybe
• 1:20:53
  lifestyle. I agree with that.
• 1:20:55
  But to say something different, I wish that we had a more
• 1:20:58
  vibrant Carnival scene. I think it would have been cool
• 1:21:01
  to have like an active Carnival with actual people attending and
• 1:21:05
  then art is like crashing it and it's like, kind of like a
• 1:21:09
  child's play. Three types situation.
• 1:21:11
  Yeah, but that's It's kind of why I appreciate that.
• 1:21:13
  We don't have that because like we're kind of getting some of
• 1:21:16
  the darkness of the town here and we're not rehashing things
• 1:21:19
  from other franchises. I guess I just like vibrant
• 1:21:22
  stuff. And I like, like carnivals are
• 1:21:24
  just awesome set pieces. I can Texas Chainsaw 3D when he
• 1:21:29
  like attacks them at the carnival.
• 1:21:30
  That's fucking awesome. Yeah.
• 1:21:33
  Do we have a tagline for this? Only one piece.
• 1:21:41
  For the candy. Trick or treat?
• 1:21:47
  Smell my feet. Give me one piece of something
• 1:21:50
  good to me. One piece of candy.
• 1:21:54
  Okay, that's it. Okay, all right, cool.
• 1:21:58
  I feel like that's one of those taglines.
• 1:21:59
  We'd make fun of, for being too long.
• 1:22:02
  Nah, I don't like. All right.
• 1:22:03
  I I like it. I like it.
• 1:22:04
  I think it works. Who did you really use you?
• 1:22:07
  Okay. Um, besides Jeff and the pp
• 1:22:09
  comment, I relate to Jeff with that, but I kind of relate to
• 1:22:15
  Ally with her stance with the trick-or-treaters.
• 1:22:18
  I would also be like nah, and then Arts kind of the same way
• 1:22:22
  too. So, you know, I just kind of
• 1:22:25
  relate to like that, that moment right there both of those
• 1:22:28
  moments where it's like, no, you only get one piece.
• 1:22:31
  I really to Sienna with, like the costume building and the
• 1:22:36
  drawing and the bottling up of the emotions, okay?
• 1:22:45
  Know, if I'd be as much of a badass I was her, but I don't
• 1:22:48
  know, I've never been in that kind of a situation, so I have a
• 1:22:50
  magical sword out there somewhere, maybe I can draw you
• 1:22:52
  some shit. Like, I'll get a sketch book and
• 1:22:55
  be like, this is going to be you in one year.
• 1:22:56
  And then, let's see if it happens, do it.
• 1:22:59
  You Nostradamus start being the next I did.
• 1:23:04
  I God, I did L, by the way. People, we were talking about
• 1:23:07
  that in the patreon episode 2, I fucking called are being the
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  next were icon back in like, 26:18 be somewhere.
• 1:23:15
  Around there. I went over to terrify you like
• 1:23:17
  became while widely available for everybody.
• 1:23:19
  I was like this is going to be in people shat on me on Reddit
• 1:23:21
  and I knew that I was going to be right.
• 1:23:24
  Okay. So what are our hopes and dreams
• 1:23:27
  for the third one? I am really curious.
• 1:23:33
  I want to know the backstory, I want to know what the dad's
• 1:23:36
  involvement is. Is he still a factor?
• 1:23:39
  Is he still a force in this art killed himself, and like, he
• 1:23:44
  realized that he is Will to survive.
• 1:23:46
  It may be the dad did the same and hasn't returned yet.
• 1:23:48
  Maybe he knows his. I like that twist.
• 1:23:50
  Yeah. Like his time hasn't like he
• 1:23:52
  knows when he has to come here. He predicted all this stuff.
• 1:23:55
  He's going to come in when he's needed.
• 1:23:57
  I want to learn more about these victims that become part of like
• 1:23:59
  the art cult, so to speak. Like, yeah, Vicky and the little
• 1:24:03
  pale girl, like, very curious about that too.
• 1:24:05
  Yeah, so I think that, that would be interesting to see more
• 1:24:09
  of that, would see what the extent of Siena is abilities are
• 1:24:13
  too. Yes, because she's actually
• 1:24:15
  We'll probably have that sword back.
• 1:24:17
  Hmm, that's weird. It's very important to her
• 1:24:20
  abilities. I think.
• 1:24:21
  I think we're going to have a little bit of mystery with
• 1:24:23
  Jonathan if we can trust him or not.
• 1:24:25
  Yeah. I think you know, because you're
• 1:24:27
  right because he had that moment where he was isolated with art.
• 1:24:30
  It just going to be a lot more with Sienna like losing fucking
• 1:24:34
  everybody in her life. He was all right, you know,
• 1:24:37
  maybe that's why he was like suspect to begin with because
• 1:24:40
  like he's kind of going to be set up to be like, is he a bad
• 1:24:43
  guy because he Bad. Maybe that uh that that is
• 1:24:48
  interesting. I'm curious to see where they
• 1:24:49
  go. I'm excited.
• 1:24:49
  Super excited for tariff are three.
• 1:24:51
  Yes. Okay.
• 1:24:54
  Do you have a review for this? I do.
• 1:24:56
  I tried not to pick one that mostly just talked about it
• 1:24:59
  being too long because I knew that was one of your main
• 1:25:01
  criticisms of edge. I wanted to get a different view
• 1:25:04
  point on it, okay? This is a 3 out of 10 and it
• 1:25:10
  says, exhausting to watch the first hero fire, despite that
• 1:25:14
  scene was brutal and scary in that 80s slasher way.
• 1:25:16
  I had no idea how brutal or anything about this movie going
• 1:25:19
  into it. In the end I wasn't a huge fan
• 1:25:21
  of it but it was well done for what it was.
• 1:25:23
  This movie is just gross and boring, it's like hostile or saw
• 1:25:27
  after the initial shock of the torture porn.
• 1:25:29
  It's just gross and exhausting to sit through.
• 1:25:31
  There's no plot besides the main to brother and sister having a
• 1:25:34
  father that predicted the events inside of Sketchbook.
• 1:25:37
  Having no plot. For a slasher movie isn't a bad
• 1:25:40
  thing. But when you throw in elements,
• 1:25:41
  like the Sketchbook, clown cafe, or the female clown, you want
• 1:25:45
  some answer? And I'm not going to read the
• 1:25:47
  rest because it's just a little bit.
• 1:25:49
  Um, I kind of gathering that stuff because this is very much
• 1:25:53
  a set of movie. Yeah, but I do think it actually
• 1:25:56
  had more of a plot. I agreed that the mystery aspect
• 1:26:00
  is frustrating that I think here's the thing, too.
• 1:26:04
  I think that I come from a background of, really loving to
• 1:26:08
  read cereal books. So, a lot of times like the
• 1:26:13
  first book in a series will have a Of questions and you do not
• 1:26:18
  get answers, you do not get answers for several books.
• 1:26:21
  So I think I can watch a movie and have Mysteries and as long
• 1:26:24
  as I know a sequels coming. I am okay with it.
• 1:26:27
  Yeah, that's cool. And yeah, and those people
• 1:26:30
  that's that's who I am as an audience.
• 1:26:32
  If, you know, if this is a standalone I could totally
• 1:26:35
  understand people being frustrated with that stuff.
• 1:26:37
  Yeah. If this was your first
• 1:26:38
  experience to it, you didn't know if there was going to be
• 1:26:40
  another one or not I could definitely see being frustrated
• 1:26:43
  by it and that's I think that's valid because there were like a
• 1:26:46
  lot Of questions that were raised and really none of them
• 1:26:49
  was answered. Well, I mean, I, it doesn't
• 1:26:51
  bother me but I could see how it would be bothered.
• 1:26:53
  I got some kind of agree with them.
• 1:26:54
  I mean, if you really think about it, there's not much of an
• 1:26:57
  actual plot to this. It's just basically like it's
• 1:27:01
  just a mystery of, like, there's art, he is involved with Sienna
• 1:27:07
  in some way. The dad knows something, and
• 1:27:10
  basically, it's just him. Apparently, I didn't really
• 1:27:14
  catch this, but based off of what Damien was saying.
• 1:27:16
  It's the pale girl and that is leading our and he, our she like
• 1:27:21
  wed and told Art to take her and get her at the carnival because
• 1:27:27
  they need to get rid of her because of, like the grand
• 1:27:29
  scheme of things and like I guess that's kind of like, I
• 1:27:33
  guess that's the plot. But at the same time, like it's
• 1:27:36
  not really much of one especially when we're like.
• 1:27:40
  It doesn't answer any of the questions.
• 1:27:42
  Yeah. Like I didn't even know that was
• 1:27:43
  a thing honestly until he mentioned that.
• 1:27:45
  Yeah. They don't really.
• 1:27:46
  Way that out. So I get it, I can get why I
• 1:27:50
  wouldn't be somebody saying, but I love it and I know that it is
• 1:27:54
  going to have a sequel. So yeah.
• 1:27:57
  And I'm excited. All right.
• 1:27:59
  You know, I've got asked a lot about David Howard Thornton but
• 1:28:02
  I love Lauren lovera to yeah, I am really excited to see more
• 1:28:07
  from her. They're probably gonna have to
• 1:28:09
  do like a time Jump with this kid though, if he continues to
• 1:28:12
  grow is the thing because he's going to be like, a full-blown.
• 1:28:16
  Or yeah, time this time even know how old that kid actually
• 1:28:20
  is. It's like fucking stranger
• 1:28:22
  things. That they're just they're fully
• 1:28:23
  jumping ahead into the future for the last season, aren't
• 1:28:26
  they? I don't know.
• 1:28:27
  I'm pretty sure there. Are you saying that is going to
• 1:28:28
  be time? Trump, I'm extent.
• 1:28:31
  It was already bad enough as it was there.
• 1:28:33
  I mean, they're actually adults. So yeah, all of them are over
• 1:28:36
  18. Some of them are in their 20s, I
• 1:28:38
  think. Yeah, so, yeah, I know, say, you
• 1:28:40
  think is, for sure. Yeah, okay.
• 1:28:46
  Is there anything? Else for this movie.
• 1:28:48
  Yeah we got listen reviews. Oh yeah, that's right.
• 1:28:50
  That's right. Okay, sorry.
• 1:28:51
  We just we did the patreon one right before this.
• 1:28:53
  And we didn't have listener used for that.
• 1:28:55
  So yeah. Okay.
• 1:28:58
  So I am going to start with our Instagram reviews.
• 1:29:04
  Okay? So let's go with the people that
• 1:29:07
  responded to the sticker. First, first off, we have Aaron
• 1:29:11
  Ace says so good. Okay, so so good, I agree.
• 1:29:17
  Cube saves says, it's a two-and-a-half-hour slasher that
• 1:29:21
  never drags. It's amazing.
• 1:29:23
  I agree with you. It's amazing part.
• 1:29:26
  I do think that it drags at the end, Drags necessarily, I think
• 1:29:31
  it could be trimmed without losing anything, though.
• 1:29:34
  I think it kind of drags a little bit right there,
• 1:29:36
  honestly, because it's the same. You're just seeing the same play
• 1:29:39
  out for like 30 minutes and then the final 15 is where the action
• 1:29:42
  actually happens. All right, and then we have
• 1:29:47
  Tucker who says, I'm not man enough for Tara fire, one or
• 1:29:50
  two. I'll give it an 11 out of 10 in
• 1:29:52
  the hopes of appeasing art enough to where he keeps me off
• 1:29:55
  his radar, very wise. If I gotta wait.
• 1:30:01
  This thing without him I wouldn't because I would rate at
• 1:30:04
  nine point five out of ten. Its rightful commentary Travis.
• 1:30:09
  That's where I stand with that, okay.
• 1:30:13
  And over on On Twitter, we have Tyler.
• 1:30:17
  He says art was especially gruesome here.
• 1:30:19
  The bedroom scene was so well done, but should be illegal.
• 1:30:23
  Tyler Tyler. Like I'm proud of you for
• 1:30:27
  watching the movie because I know you said it was like really
• 1:30:29
  gory and you were nervous but I do have to point out that like a
• 1:30:33
  literally, everything that happened in the bed.
• 1:30:34
  Receiving is actually a little. It's always, it's all illegal.
• 1:30:38
  That's the thing. That's the thing, man.
• 1:30:40
  He's a shocked by the legality of this is Ali was by how trick
• 1:30:43
  or treat. Yeah, but he was also so funny
• 1:30:48
  and clever also Sienna is slowly becoming one of my new favorite
• 1:30:51
  final girls. She's so yeah.
• 1:30:52
  Yeah likable however read Sondra Valkyrie Vibe.
• 1:30:56
  Yes totally. Yeah.
• 1:30:58
  They're both it's fucking mean movie and it's got a fucking
• 1:31:02
  awesome final girl now. Yes Janine says absolutely loved
• 1:31:07
  everything about it. Fire Emoji.
• 1:31:10
  Nice. Yeah.
• 1:31:11
  And in many ways. Yes it is.
• 1:31:14
  That fire Emoji, works on different levels and that's all
• 1:31:18
  for the reviews. But I quickly boobs says, man, I
• 1:31:21
  gotta watch these movies, do it boobs.
• 1:31:23
  Do it, dude. You can watch this one without
• 1:31:25
  watching the first one and not miss out on anything.
• 1:31:27
  Jesse's kind of had a good point.
• 1:31:29
  The first one can actually kind of be seen as a prequel.
• 1:31:31
  Mmm, because apparently Damien's approach with that, was that he
• 1:31:34
  did it as like a way to show people art.
• 1:31:37
  Yeah. And then the second one is like
• 1:31:39
  okay and now the Story begins. So this is really the start of
• 1:31:42
  the story. You can start with this one.
• 1:31:44
  Do it, man. Check it out.
• 1:31:46
  It's fucking awesome. And that's it for our views.
• 1:31:50
  Okay. Next week.
• 1:31:52
  Halloween ends. Oh boy, as in our coverage of it
• 1:31:56
  ends. But also that's the movie were
• 1:31:57
  talking about. Yeah.
• 1:31:58
  For now, for now, if there's future ones, obviously will
• 1:32:02
  cover them and will be future Halloween movies.
• 1:32:04
  Obviously, we will do our ranking of the series at some
• 1:32:06
  point. We'll do it.
• 1:32:08
  We did the fine like the following month in with the
• 1:32:12
  Friday 13th. So, we'll do our rankings and Be
• 1:32:14
  wary. Yeah.
• 1:32:15
  But for now, if you want to watch it, it's streaming on
• 1:32:18
  peacock or you can rent it from YouTube, Red Box, Voodoo, Google
• 1:32:21
  play or prime, definitely watch it.
• 1:32:25
  Form your own opinion on it, we're watching it for the second
• 1:32:28
  time for this. I'm willing to give it a shot,
• 1:32:30
  guys. Yeah, I see her.
• 1:32:33
  I'll Travis handles it. In the meantime, you can find us
• 1:32:37
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• 1:32:44
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• 1:32:50
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• 1:32:52
  patreon at the top of the episode.
• 1:32:54
  So I'm not going to go over that again.
• 1:32:55
  But there's a friendly reminder. I did talk about the patients
• 1:32:57
  and I did, did you? Okay, we didn't shout them out
• 1:33:00
  on the patron episode, you're right.
• 1:33:03
  So definitely shouted them out here.
• 1:33:05
  Yeah, thanks again guys. Yeah.
• 1:33:09
  All right, all right, that's it. Until next time.
• 1:33:13
  Bye. Hey,
• 1:33:26
  Finn wolfhard. Oh God.
• 1:33:27
  I hope he gets nutrition. Help, I'm so worried about him.
• 1:33:31
  I am so worried about him when he was at the roller skating
• 1:33:34
  rink. I was like, oh my God, oh my
• 1:33:35
  God. Stephanie, you're talking about
• 1:33:36
  my legs earlier with my shins being so suppose, we have
• 1:33:39
  nothing surrounding. Yeah, I'm very concerned about
• 1:33:41
  your shitty. I feel like if you ran into a
• 1:33:43
  coffee, Table, it would just break your leg in half.
• 1:33:46
  Like he's gonna be, the guy can relate to we get each other.