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Episode 234: A very WASD HALLOWEEN! · WASD and Beyond

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Mazel tov cocktail. Yeah.
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Oof, that's how. Is that how we're?
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Starting this, maybe not Golly, clip that.
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Oh, it's, it's been, it's been flipped.
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Oh my God. My my lips are mazel tov
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cocktail fire red right now from the wind hitting them.
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Bit dry, bit dry out there. Oh, is it cold?
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Yeah, dude, is it cold? I'm What do you mean?
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You go outside. I got home at like 4 and haven't
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been outside. It's 47.
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That's not that cold. It's.
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Pretty cold. It's pretty cold, especially
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because it came out of nowhere. Yeah, ain't that great either,
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buddy. It's the end of October.
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Listen, Connor, you know I'm. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm making too
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much sense. All of this better not rain on
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Halloween. No matter how many frigid cold
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Midwestern winters we endure, it always is like a surprise when
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it comes around. Gotcha.
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I'm always going to be, no matter how long I live here, I'm
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going to be like, oh man, Winter really sneaking up on us this
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time. It's never that'll get you.
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Yeah, never good, never fun. Not great.
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You know what's fun and good though?
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What is fun and good? This goddamn show.
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You ready to get into it guys? Hell yeah.
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Very good. Welcome back to the podcast,
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everybody. This is WASD and beyond, and
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we're your hosts, Nick, Noah and Connor.
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And with that, let's get right into the show. 2 nights in a
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row. I think I've nailed it.
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Hell, I think you've nailed it too.
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There you go, Noah's. Put some structure on you, boy.
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Are you, are you reading the thing that I wrote?
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I've read it like 1000 times while.
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Well, I can work. Well, like in between shit, I'm
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like, all right, all right, I get it, I get it.
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I Oh wow, dude. You're really, you know, it's
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just a baseline. You don't have to read it
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verbatim, but it's a no, you know, I get structure.
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Just trying to get your get a little bit of a little bit of
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structure going here. We got we got to get to the meat
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of the show, you know, I mean, but like, we're playing with
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fire when I'm just sitting there stumbling through shit.
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Yeah. We're going to do it.
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We're going to do it. No more stumbling, no more
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bumbling. Let's get right into it, boys.
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Halloween is when this episode drops.
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So I figured let's talk about some spooky scary games for the
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next half hour. You guys game for that.
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Cool. Sick.
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I want, I just want to kind of like pick your brains because
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Conrad, I know we've had you on the show, what, once or twice?
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I think so, yeah. Once or twice.
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Noah's now pretty much a fucking regular because he hosts the
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other show. But last year it was just me and
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Evan. The year prior was me and Brody,
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and the year before that I think was me and Alex.
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So we're kind of starting to like do like a bit of a rotating
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Halloween thing. So with that being said, I
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really want to start with Connor because Connor doesn't really
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happen on the show as much. For gaming in general, what
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makes a game scary for you in my like, in your opinion?
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Like what makes it scary? The interaction with the player
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and then also the the audio. I'm a big audio guy, so the
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directional audio, little sounds that everybody may not be able
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to pick up. But those who are looking for
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those sounds, if they hear it, they get excited.
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But also like what's about to happen.
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There's stuff that really tricks or plays around with the player.
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Yeah, there is one game that comes to mind with that.
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It's Vigil. That was so it was a like a 30
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minute demo that was on Steam and it had pretty good
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directional audio, but it was the one where the game could see
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through the camera whenever you blinked.
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Oh, I worked this one. I forgot.
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I totally forgot what it was called.
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Oh, it was great. It was.
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That is hands down the most unique aspect that I've ever
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heard of in a game. Yeah, and the the monster, it
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would only move whenever, like you wouldn't be looking at it or
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if you blinked, kind of like the Weeping Angels from Doctor Who.
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It it was real cool. It was really cool.
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I want more games to do stuff like that where it's more like
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physically interactive. Well, not physically
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interactive, but you know. Game punches you in the fucking.
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Face, right, Right. You have to have like a haptic
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face mask and just walk into work with a black guy.
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What happened? I got me you 2.
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Or we can get a chair that automatically sends chills down
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your back. That would be interesting.
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I would hate that. I would throw that shit out the
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window the first time that happens.
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A haptic vest that has like the motors and their shoulders so
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you can feel somebody tap your shoulder.
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No, no, again, that's going out the window.
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I would throw that shit out the window.
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That would be. Amazing, that would be I.
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Guarantee that cost about a grand.
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Oh easily, easily, they could. Do it.
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They could easily do that. We're getting there.
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That's like Ready Player one level stuff, yeah.
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People wouldn't do that for bad though.
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Yeah, people would definitely use that for I'll.
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I I, I know a few guys probably in the spawn camp would be like
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you only want to know what I, Matt Grant, what I did with
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that. But yes, not to derail.
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Let's get back. Yeah, but audio and the the use
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of the player is with the game that would that that's what kind
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of gets me. I feel like Outlast is always
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done like the, the, the 1st 2 Outlasts in my opinion.
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I like Trials is cool, but like the first two Outlast games
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where it's just you alone on the map and the game really torments
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you. I, I really thought those games
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did a very good job of like the cat and mouse feel where it's
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like, yeah, you, you don't really have an attack.
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You can kind of escape and use the environment to your
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advantage, but it's a lot of the game tricking you into going in
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certain directions and like, you know, what you think is in front
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of you isn't in front of you. That has always terrified me.
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Oh yeah, you know, that was one of the games on my list is
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Outlast. My too, that was that was like a
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challenge game when it first dropped like like can you play
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the Outlast trials? Not because your computer can't
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run it or it, you know, whatever, but like because like
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can you make it through? Are you like strong willed
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enough, I guess, to play this terrifying terrible game?
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And it's like, yeah, it is fucked up.
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Shoot, whenever it first came out, man that was a scary
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fucking game. Oh yeah, play a game with the
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lights off, dude, I hated it. I don't know like and I don't.
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Scare you? I couldn't.
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Something about that fucking game, dude, Because it's so
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aggressive too. It's like that is aggressive
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horror. It's in your face, it's
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something is screaming at you and not like a jump scare.
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It's just angry with you. And it starts out so unassuming,
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but it just dumps you right in. You like you show up and then
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then like the first scary thing happens the minute you open the
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door. Yeah.
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And it's just like city population.
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You. Yeah, it sucks, but cool.
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Very good answer, Connor. Noah, it is your turn.
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My turn the bit I have played, well, I was making my list and
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I've played more horror games than I thought I had.
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I think what what makes it is maybe this goes along with what
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Connor was saying, but it's in in a horror movie, you know the
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characters, you're not in control.
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They're going to go into the basement whether or not you want
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them to. But in a game, it makes you do
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it. It says you the only the only
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way out is through. You have to keep going.
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And it's that like, you know, it's kind of like, you know that
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it's a trap, but you have to progress into it and you don't
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exactly know what's going to happen when you do.
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The other thing for me is like atmosphere, obviously sound
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design and more of just like the concept of the thing kind of
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makes it scary. I have on my list, I have Scorn,
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which is not necessarily a horror game, but the the horror
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aspect comes from the bleakness of the world and like the
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greater implications of of the things that you're doing.
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Also, if if the game has something other to do than to
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make me just walk down the hallway and jump scare me, I
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really appreciate that. Like if it's a puzzle horror
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game, that's a big thing or if there's like a compelling
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narrative, that's another big thing or some kind of impressive
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gameplay element. Or if it's like, you know, scary
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game to play with friends or even just a scary moment of a
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non horror game. Stuff like that really makes the
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experience. Yeah, And I feel like with
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Scorn, what Scorn did so well or squelch the game, what it did so
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well was make you feel like you were inside this living world.
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Everything in the world, from the floor to the ceiling to like
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the dust in the air felt alive. And there was a level of guilt
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in Scorn that I felt when I was doing shit around the world.
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And I was like damn dude, like whatever I just did hurt this
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thing that is controlling the wall to then control the door.
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The key is alive. Everything feels connected.
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It's it's, it's like everything's a living Organism.
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It's fucked. Like every bit of that game is
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about pain did. You play that game, Connor.
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You play score. No, I didn't end up playing that
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one, Yeah. It's a, it's, it's a good one.
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It's it's a good short game too. Scorn 2 game.
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Pass Yeah. Scorn 2 please.
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You could finally get out of the mouth of whatever that thing is.
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Yeah, and it leaves you off on a cliffhanger at the end of it.
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Yeah, to give you an idea, Connor, the entire world looks
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like the inside of a mouth. Yeah.
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There's just like, it's just like fleshy walls and like
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exposed bone and all kinds of like gross out like body horror
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stuff. It's very H It is HR Giger
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expired inspired HR. It would certainly smell like
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expired something in there. Influenced is the word I'm
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looking for, and it works like that world works because of
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that, and given any other type of environmental world, this
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game doesn't work. But because it's that it works
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and it's just masterfully done. But it's terrifying and it's the
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body horror element of that that is terrifying to me.
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And I'm like, oh, dude, I hate it.
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The keys are alive. Yeah, like your, your weapon is
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alive. It's like your weapon.
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Is a parasitic Organism. You got to try.
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But it's it all like that game especially does a lot of the
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like you have to do this like are you willing to put yourself
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through it to get to the other side?
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And that one has a lot of like, you know, to save a checkpoint,
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you have to put your hand in a machine that stabs it a bunch of
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times. Yeah.
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And that stuff can kind of get like, fantastical.
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Like, after a certain point, how many times am I going to care
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about getting a six inch spike driven into my hand?
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Right, Right. You know.
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But that's yeah, yeah. What about you, Nick?
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It's definitely the environment a game sound is incredibly
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important too. Sound is important, like the
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depth of sound and what they're able to do with the sound to
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make the player feel a like you're in that environment in
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that world. That's important.
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You have Resident Evil wouldn't be the same.
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It wouldn't have lasted it had it not in the 90s caught that
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like attention of the people where it's like, dude, this
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feels yes, it looks like a bunch of pixels, but it I feel like
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I'm here because the sound sound is incredibly important.
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But on top of that is the atmosphere.
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It is the atmosphere of the game.
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It is forcing players. As Noah said, in a movie, you
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have no control in a game you have controllable.
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It's that control is taken away and you are forced and in
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situations you don't want to be in and you know it's going to
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leave you for worse. That is the beauty of a great
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horror game. I mean, there's the triumph at
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the end sometimes and even when there's not.
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And the player, ultimately your character ultimately loses at
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the end of a game like Resident Evil or you know, you win, but
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you also lose something along the way.
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I that's what I love. It's, it's that, it's that sense
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of atmosphere and loss on top of great sound design and just the
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ability that just 'cause I'm a player doesn't mean I have full
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control. The game is still controlling,
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even if it's letting me think I have control.
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I love that. I fucking love that like element
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of games that are that are in the genre.
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It's that like kind of knowing that you're sort of just along
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for the ride, Like you might feel like you're in control, but
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you're really not. Almost makes you feel like
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you're just moving chess pieces and that, yeah, that's it's a
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game that you're not going to win regardless.
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And I, and I, and I appreciate that about games like that.
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I think one of the games I, I bring it up every year, but it,
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it's true. Like it's the level in half Life
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2 is called Ravenhole. And that still of this day will
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send chills up my spine because that.
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And there's one more scene in Half Life 2.
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It's when you're finally getting into City 17 and you walk past a
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playground and you go past a slide in a swing set, and in the
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distance you can hear faint laughter of children.
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But there haven't been children. Yeah.
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It's very Chernobyl. Yes, there hasn't been children
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in this universe in XY and Z amount of years since the Seven
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Hour War pretty much kicked off. And it's it's it's terrifying
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'cause they're you're just walking through this area.
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But Ravenholm is scary because it's like, this was like a nice
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little city and now it's infested with zombies.
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And there's a prepper priest that's literally guiding you
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through this hellhole city that he uses as a playground that's
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just filled with saw blades. And the zombies, every time they
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scream, you can hear them screaming help me, help me.
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And they're gurgling. And it's like this thing, dude,
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where it all? It got me when I was a kid
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because the game isn't scary up until then.
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You're just like, oh, it's just a cool run gun.
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Yeah, there's zombies, but not in this type of environment.
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It's dark, it's misty, it's got fire everywhere.
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There's awesome puzzles involving zombies being
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electrocuted, stuck to poles. And it's like, wow, this is
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fucked up. Dorilla, A shift in the tone,
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especially in that game. Everything sort of happens with
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daylight except for that. Yeah, yeah.
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And you know, it's moments like that in games like that.
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Again, it's that it's that whole atmosphere.
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And what they did there was they took the air out of the room
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literally because you're trapped in there.
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So it's like, all right, cool, boom.
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And it's like, God damn, that's that's the atmosphere.
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I love when you're able to do that to me in a game.
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That's what will make it scary for me and they.
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Did I feel like sometimes, honestly even more so than like
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full on horror games, a level in a game that's not usually scary,
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one level being scary is like way more effective than an
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entire game like I had. I agree.
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An honorable mention would have been the subway level in Half
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Life. Alex, for one, because.
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Oh God. Yeah, because you're up until
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that point, you're kind of just like walking around this cool VR
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world. At that point, it's probably the
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best VR environment you've ever seen.
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So then like after a certain point, you kind of like you go
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down to the subway and all the lights turn off and it's just
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you and your flashlight and you're looking around.
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You see like the head crab on the ground.
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That's the scariest thing you've ever seen.
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That's. It's actually in VR.
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Yeah, it's. Big.
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It's bigger than you think. It's it's that that is like
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super effective. I had to stop playing it at
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that. Point.
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I know I turned it off. I was like, I don't know about
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this. No, I.
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Had to work up the courage to go back and walk past the zombie on
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the ground because I didn't know what was going to happen.
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It's like, you know it, it's cartoony, but in VR it's like
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that's there that yeah, it's real.
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It's right next to you. It may be cartoony, but it's
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pretty fucking big. It also.
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It doesn't look like it would be great if that thing stood up and
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attacked you. Well, in Alex they are.
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You could see like the veins and the hairs and like they're
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chunky and then like you can pick them up and see the beaks
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and how sharp they are and it's like, God damn dude, this thing
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just literally grabs you and eats through your face and it
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just controls you. It's fucking wild.
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The potential of VR horror games is like, it's huge and I would
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say you need to look no further than Phasmophobia in VR.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Have you guys ever tried it? I I have I haven't wasted.
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My balls to it it is. Actually, the scariest thing
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I've ever experienced 'cause they have that game has such
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good sound. Yeah, like you were talking
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about Connor. That's all it takes.
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And then for the simple fact that like you hear the sound and
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you like turn around as if you're going to look behind you,
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but you're in the house, there's nowhere to go.
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It's with you somewhere. And you can't like you can't
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just like look away from it. I remember we, we were trying to
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play that. It was, it was Julian and I, we
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were both in VR and I think we had another person who was just
19:46
regular playing it regular. And we went, we went inside the
19:50
cabin. We took a step inside the cabin.
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The cabin. Noise happened.
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I looked at Julian and I said this is too scary, I'm not doing
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this. No, good dude.
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I I love fast. I think even for like a party
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game, fast does a really good job at like unfortunately you
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get people like me in the party who at first I'm just like, hey,
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you stupid fucking ghost. And it's like really trying to
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piss the AI off the AI off in my own head.
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And then shit happens. I'm like, all right, all right,
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how do we fix this? This sucks.
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How do we fix what I did? Yeah, dude, it does a great job
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at that. Me saying ah get out of here you
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stupid ghost. That's just a coping mechanism
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for being scared for me. I'm laughing through the tears.
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Here exactly. I walk through a haunted house
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and I'm just narrating everything, annoying everybody
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around me, but I feel fine because I can narrate it.
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Connor's like I feel better. I I feel.
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Better to talk through this or it's not getting done.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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Then Mickey Mouse comes out and it's just, yeah.
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Yeah, you do do the Mickey Mouse thing a lot during films.
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Yeah, you do do that during FAZ. You.
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Silly. Well, FAZ has the the unique,
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the unique feature where the the ghost can hear you.
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Yeah, you know, so that's a part of it.
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And you sometimes you have to be quiet because they can hear you.
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And escape the backrooms. They actually with the the
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proximity chat, they can they have a short bit of like a short
21:36
memory in there where if it is a mimic, it can actually mimic a
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line. One of your party members says
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that's crazy. Oh, it's great because you think
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it's them and then it kills you. But being having the game
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actually sound like your buddies, it's fucked up, but
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it's. Awesome, what was that game we
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were playing? Oh my God, which one was it?
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It It's basically repo, but the first repo.
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Oh. Lethal.
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Lethal company, dude, when that shit was popping off and we were
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just like chilling there and we didn't know that that update hit
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and all I heard was hey Nick. And I was like, who the fuck is
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talk? Like, why are you talking like
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that? Because like somebody's like
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saying like hey Nick, hey Nick. And all I heard was hey Nick.
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And I went what the fuck? And I went holy fuck.
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And I tried hoofing it and just grabbed me, dude.
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I was like what? I love interactions like that
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all. Those those party games, your
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your repo and your lethal company have the the proximity
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voice chat is like an aspect of the horror where you could just
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like you can hear in the next room, like I could hear people
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screaming. And then all of a sudden it goes
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quiet and you have like a radio and you can call on the radio
23:00
and then nobody answers. And then you might like find all
23:03
their bodies. Yeah, you might find what killed
23:05
them. Yeah.
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It's just good, man. It's just good fucking times.
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And I, I really do like that a lot of like the horror elements
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are coming to the forefront in this.
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I, I, I hate to use the term friend slop for some of these
23:22
games, but like friend slop is like the newest trend in like
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indie, like it's just being churned out like.
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Game of the Week is what we call them.
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Yeah, in our server we call them game of the week.
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But like I do like that a lot of them are really gearing in
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towards a little bit of the scary because even repo at times
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you're like, Oh my God, like how in the fuck dude?
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Like this is crazy. Whenever you see the floating
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heads, everybody just disperses. Dude, yeah, a lot.
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A lot of lethal company is like funny silly times, but then it
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turns into like a slasher for a second where they'll be like the
24:00
clown chasing you around. Yeah, and you're like, how the
24:04
fuck, dude? You know what I mean?
24:07
But then I mean you, you, you get games like your Alien
24:09
Isolation where it's like that game is like still to me the
24:16
scariest game that's come out in the last, I don't know how long.
24:19
Because Resident Evil games, they don't scare me anymore,
24:22
right? Like a lot of it's just like,
24:24
we'll see what the next Resident Evil game.
24:27
But a lot of them don't really do it for me because it's so
24:30
actiony and it's a bit goofy at times.
24:33
And not saying it's bad. Like the, you know, the last one
24:36
had the baby scene where I was like, Oh my God, that's fucked
24:39
because Landon was just born so that it struck a it struck A
24:43
chord with me. I was like, Oh my fucking God,
24:44
dude, that's terrifying. But like Alien Isolation is
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definitely the last game that really got me.
24:52
Just that that that feeling of just being alone on your own and
24:56
there's just this one thing that you cannot shake off of you.
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And it knows where you are, it can hear you, it's listening,
25:03
it's toying with you. And as the player, you can't
25:06
defend yourself. So it's I need to get my wits
25:09
about me and go. But then you're faced with this
25:11
corridor and the one light starts blinking and then a
25:15
shadow appears. And then the light stops
25:17
blinking and the shadow is gone. And you're sitting there as a
25:21
player going. There's no way that's my only
25:23
option. But that's that thing again
25:26
where it's like that is your only option and you'll take it.
25:30
Yeah, unless you want to return the game.
25:34
Unless you're done playing, you're.
25:35
Yeah. You got to get in there.
25:38
Oh yeah, that, that's just what I love to really, to really cap
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this episode off. I want to know from you guys
25:45
though, what were the scariest games that you have played or
25:50
your scariest games or list of games you wanted to really
25:53
mention or talk about before we put the nightcap on this episode
25:57
and go trick or treating. Like our favorite horror game?
26:01
Like our top or just. If you were if you were going to
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recommend a horror game to someone who hadn't played one,
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which one would you recommend? Me personally.
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Yeah. Oh, it's Alien Isolation all
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day. Like that game is First off, who
26:17
doesn't love a good Alien story? Like who doesn't love that?
26:21
See that franchise in that world?
26:23
Maybe it's. Canon isn't.
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It it's all it's Canon. It's Ripley's daughter.
26:27
I mean, so it, it's terrifying for all the reasons I said prior
26:33
to this conversation right here, but also because of how pretty
26:36
the game is and how much details around the ship and around the
26:41
world that you're in. And the alien itself is just so
26:45
menacing and you're so small compared to this thing.
26:49
It's it's just, it's, it's a reverse power trip.
26:53
And I, you love to see it. I fucking love being in this.
26:56
I love it. Love Alien Isolation.
26:58
But. It was such a great, great.
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Oh dude. Horror creature.
27:03
It is because it's the it's an unstoppable killing machine for
27:06
the most part. If I had to recommend a game to
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play that's not like that, I would.
27:14
I would honestly recommend either Fear.
27:18
For a really good scare I would recommend Fear or I'd recommend
27:21
The Suffering 1. The Suffering is a very old game
27:25
but being trapped in a prison because of your actions and then
27:31
demons taking control of the prison and you trying to figure
27:36
out like the paths to take to get a good ending, bad ending
27:40
right? Like you're presented with
27:41
choices throughout the game and dependent upon your choices is
27:45
the outcome of the game for you. But throughout this whole thing,
27:49
there's like this like messed up sense of like almost like a bit
27:53
of Hellraiser meets Resident Evil reads, reads, meets like
27:59
fucking Evil Dead a little bit, you know, but it's, it's
28:02
bombastic, but it's scary at the same time.
28:05
So yeah, Alien Isolation, fear and the suffering.
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Nice. Bye you, Connor.
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So one that I didn't mention earlier, it was Silent Hill
28:18
Downpour on the yeah, on the PS3.
28:23
I, that one, that one got me. I whenever you started talking
28:31
about in the prison and like the demon takes control of the
28:33
prison, that the prison in Silent Hill Downpour, that was,
28:37
it was scary. There was no way in or out of
28:41
that anymore. Once you got in, it was, that's
28:44
it. But yeah, Silent Hill, Downpour
28:49
and then there's one that I remember that was really good.
28:53
But there was also when I was younger, so I'm not sure.
28:56
Condemned 2 Bloodshot. Oh dude, the condemned series
28:59
Fucking. Rips.
29:01
Yeah, OK. Yeah, dude, abso fucking lutely.
29:05
I would say those. Serial killer horror.
29:07
Yeah, yeah, dude. Yeah.
29:10
I would say those two are probably going to be the ones
29:13
that I would recommend. And you said Vigil right
29:15
earlier. Yeah, Vigil, because it was.
29:18
So it was a demo. I don't know when the full game
29:24
comes out. Let me actually take a look,
29:26
Vigil. Is a little bit more
29:28
psychological. Right, This isn't a fucking Five
29:31
Nights at Freddy's game, is it? No.
29:36
Oh, it's just like a little robot guy.
29:37
I I see Vigil's a short narrative or Oh, I I added that.
29:42
Add that to my library. It's just right on Steam.
29:47
I didn't know that. Yeah.
29:49
Blinking detection via webcam? Oh, if you're soft you can use
29:55
the alternative keyboard based blink.
29:58
That's the honor system though, and I feel like you could just
30:01
cheat. Oh, I'm not doing that.
30:03
I will actually play this with my blinks.
30:06
Terrifying. Maybe Angels, but OK.
30:09
Yeah, I'm here for that. Vigil looks sick and play after
30:12
we finished recording. Yeah, it was fun.
30:14
Sick, Mr. Noah. I would.
30:20
I'm going to go with the The Blair Witch.
30:23
Oh hell yeah. Credible, incredible game from
30:27
incredible IP that I feel has had a bit of a rough go in its
30:33
time. You know, the original movie was
30:36
revolutionary for horror movies and found footage and the game
30:42
is really good. It's got really good horror
30:44
aspects. It's a really good narrative.
30:47
The mechanics are really good. I'm not going to even spoil what
30:52
they are. I it's pretty short.
30:54
I think you could beat it in like 5 hours or something.
30:57
Really compelling, really good stuff like start to finish.
31:00
It's a perfect in my opinion, it's the perfect horror game.
31:05
Huh. I love Blair Witch game.
31:07
I remember when I told you. Did Silent Hill 2.
31:11
Oh no. Oh, it is, isn't it?
31:13
Yeah, they also did Layers of Fear.
31:18
Layers Fear is cool. Have you guys ever played like
31:20
Penumbra or anything like that? I played Penumbra.
31:24
Yeah, Penumbra is terrifying. I I didn't get very far because
31:29
of that, but Blair Witch, awesome, awesome game.
31:32
Really, really awesome. No, I think I told you
31:34
yesterday, me and Kyle around, like when we lived in Dearborn,
31:38
we had a projector and we had the I, I hooked up the Xbox to
31:41
it out in the backyard on Halloween and we had the Blair
31:44
Witch game on the garage door and I set up speakers in the
31:49
backyard like it was computer speaker.
31:53
I forgot how we rigged this up, dude, but there was 2 in the
31:56
front and two in the back. And it worked.
31:58
And Kyle was amazed. Yeah, dude, it was like
32:01
Bluetooth connected speakers. And then I hooked one into.
32:05
So the output of the, of the projector, the projector, and
32:11
then it just like it, it, it worked.
32:14
And I remember just being able to hear shit all around.
32:18
And I was playing that game and he was incredibly high.
32:21
And he was just like just standing there like, dude, this
32:24
fucking sucks, man. This fucking sucks man and I
32:28
felt so bad I was I was drunk when I was like really good.
32:32
This is fucking crazy dude. I just have one more thought,
32:36
just one more thought. What is the first horror game
32:40
you guys ever played and how? How old were you?
32:45
I first played, so I did. My first actual like like memory
32:52
of playing a horror game was Resident Evil on my Uncle
32:55
Keith's PlayStation. I was not old.
33:00
I I was a kid, six or seven maybe.
33:04
I remember the dogs in Resident Evil fucked me up incredibly
33:08
bad. But I remember like my like my
33:11
uncle laughing and like he, I, I remember playing a little bit,
33:15
but really watching him. The actual like first scary game
33:18
though, that I played by myself. Fuck man, probably FEAR.
33:28
Like no Doom 3. Doom 3.
33:31
The actual first game that scared the shit out of me that I
33:35
can remember vividly playing that is a horror game is Doom 3.
33:40
That game scared me terribly when I was like a young teen.
33:44
I was like maybe 11 years old playing that game.
33:47
Fear of a half life mod. No it's not a half life mod.
33:50
I believe it's based on it's it's made in the source engine
33:53
though if I had I don't recall but or the yeah, I think it's
33:59
source engine. Yeah, mine.
34:02
Mine was Slenderman. This the pages.
34:07
Yep, Slenderman pages. You downloaded it in a little
34:11
zip file. You just play it right off your
34:14
desktop. It was the first first scary
34:17
game I played and the last for a while.
34:21
I didn't play it for a while after that one.
34:23
So correction, fear was on the havoc and lift tech engines.
34:29
So gotcha, I'm correct. But yeah, no Slender Man that I
34:32
remember, that game came out. Classic.
34:35
Everybody, I was on a certain forum website, then they were
34:39
all talking about it on that. And then I was like, I have to
34:43
get it. And then I downloaded it,
34:46
unpacked it, whatever. And I remember playing it for
34:49
like an hour ago and I, I can't, I don't know how to do this.
34:53
And then I just like got into it and I was like, oh, shit, OK.
34:56
And then just scared the fuck out of me.
34:57
I was like, this sucks. No, Mr. Connor.
35:04
The first horror game I played I remember the I remember us
35:13
having the box for it. It was Resident Evil Outbreak
35:17
for the PS2. Yeah.
35:21
My dad probably handed me the controller once, so I'll just
35:24
say that that was the first one I played.
35:28
But the first one that I actually got into was Also it
35:33
was slender, the 8 pages. That's wild.
35:36
That's one that some people might.
35:38
It's so like such a classic. I almost forgot like to mention
35:43
it at all, because that's almost.
35:45
Your guys's age range though. Yeah, I was probably like 14
35:48
when I played it the first time. Shoot, I was able to play it on
35:52
a iPod touch 3rd Gen. on the bus on the way to school.
35:58
How did that work? How did I don't understand?
36:01
So about I would want to say shoot like 4 to 6 months after
36:07
like it got really like overhyped.
36:10
A bunch of app developers just ported it over to a playable
36:17
game on the App Store. That's crazy.
36:20
And it was all just types. It was great in the App Store.
36:24
Slender, you might be able to get it.
36:25
Yeah. Or they get a news article about
36:28
that girl who like stabbed her friend or whatever.
36:30
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one went.
36:34
Coming wait on the App Store, why would you get a news
36:36
article? There's someone made a game
36:38
about it at one point. Oh, Yep.
36:41
Slender Man's Forest. Is that the game on the App
36:45
Store? Just right there, isn't it?
36:48
And I think there were three maps you could play on it.
36:54
Was that one the one with the red background?
36:57
Yep, that one right there. It kind of sucks at like slender
37:03
is a slender man is AI think is a cool creepypasta.
37:07
Not as cool as this Kanjili man, but like he's still cool.
37:11
Kanjili man is an SCP. That is true.
37:15
Wait is that I thought he was a what?
37:17
He's SCP now he. Well, he's, you know, he's kind
37:21
of like an SCP, but he's kind of like a slender man.
37:24
I could talk. We could talk forever.
37:25
We we can talk Scanjilly all day, but we won't.
37:29
But no slender is cool though, because like that was your
37:31
guys's like definite age, you know, group playing that because
37:35
I was like 1718 when I think that came out.
37:40
So that's dope. Hell yes, everybody.
37:45
Well, I. Think that about does it?
37:47
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